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Time Stamps:
Intro 0:00 - 0:44
Unboxing 0:45 - 1:52
Installation 1:53 - 3:05
Review 3:05 - เกม
The G shifter is completely fine for me. I rarely miss shift , but it is kinda toy-ish.
I agree, it's definitely not a bad product, but for some people it might not be good **enough**
it works fine for me, I've been having mine with my G25 ever since the G25 came out. So quite a while now.
Only thing that really bothers me is that Reverse tends to stop working. To fix that, I have to open it up and clean the contact points. Then it works again for a couple of months.
It does feel a bit toy-ish and there is some side to side slob in 3rd and 4th but barely anything in 1-2 and 5-6 though.
And last year, The boot ripped on the front. That still happened a lot later in it's life than i imagined it would.
Overall it's still going strong non the less today
Just recently got it and everytime I’m in 5th and about to go into 6, the shifter goes in the middle for neutral then goes into 4th, skill issue to me ig
I mean it is a “toy”
@@kingiscmn1 kind of true in a way. But it feels a lot more satisfying when it feels less like a toy. So some people tend to look for that
I wish logitech would just improve the shifter from the factory.
We all do 🥲
They should just make seperate versions like a higher end model and like a rally type and a casual version.
well when you think about it, it’s a $60 shifter. i’m pretty sure logitech just meant you to buss it out of the box and start playing.
@TacoMeat FijiWater the wheel may be small but it has a lot of power, this is coming from someone who got the g29 recently (february)
I ended up actually going to the car scrapyard and picking up a couple honda civic si shift knobs. The weight of the knobs make all the difference for me over the super light weight cheap-feeling stock knob.
Awesome! I currently have a Thrustmaster shifter, but I have a friend who has a logitech shifter so ill send him this way!
🤝
tbh coming from a logitech shifter user i can tell you regardless what you do the logitech shifter is just bad every dollar spent on it to "upgrade" or "enhance" it is just lost money your friend is way way way better of to just save some bucks and get a thrustmaster th8 shifter
@@mrchillgreen i dont understand why yall dont like that shifter, im satisfied by the shifter tbh
@@screamplayz8139 the shifter is pretty basic dont get me wrong it will do it for entry lvl shifter once you had something little bit better like the thrustmaster th8 you will understand why and never go back. Dont get me wrong i had a g25 and the shifter is pretty much the same and i drove a long time with it but its litterly a crap shifter.
@@mrchillgreen Can you hook up the th8 to the G29?
I love how methodical your reviews are! so detailed and no sugarcoating. great video like always
Appreciate it a lot :)
@@OCRacing I have a questions. my question is does the nob have to be specifically made, because I want to get just my own shifter so I can be more comfortable.
@@OCRacing Does reverse still work on it?
@@liverpool4life173 omg your so right, Sorry lolz I was just in a rush to leave and I didn't get a good look at it. mainly because I have a G920 and was wondering if I should get a mod before I buy the shifter. Thanks btw.
Thank you so much for bringing this mod to light. This shifter has caused me countless misshifts in public lobbies in Forza, has literally cost me some wins too >.
my guy try VR and NOT seing the gear and ALSO LEARNING MANUAL...
@@mosasa1307 playing in VR isn't really that bad. I play with the stock logitech shifter.
And a good tip, when you find where your shifter is, just go through the gears a few times, and even say the gears out loud so your muscle memory will just kick in.
I drive a manual IRL and in sim racing and honestly, shifting is just muscle memory. Once you do it long enough it will feel like second nature
@@NagoL67BeatSaber lol yeah, I acually learned how to drive manual with VR and Logitech stock wheel and h-shifter. It all comes down to muscle memory basically.
@@mosasa1307 same I started wit just the g29 wit h shifter and now I have a manual car I was banging gears on the Logitech wit no problem
@@mosasa1307 I drive a manual everyday, I drive it hard and literally have never missed a shift, but everytime I play with my g25 I miss so many shifts, it got nothing to do with knowing how to drive manual, the shifter is just shit.
Funny enough back when I didn't have a car or a license I'd basically never miss my shifts on the g25, I think what happens is that I get used to what a real shifter feels like and my muscle memory doesn't quite apply to the cheap plastic atrocity that the logitech shifter is.
Personally, I would put longer, stronger magnets inside of a spring, so as you pull on the stick, both the magnet and spring will pull back right up until you overcome both the spring and the magnet. This *should* prevent the jarring feeling you can't help but get when a solidly-mounted magnet releases.
I bought the mod kit. The gated shifter helps prevent miss-shifts. The magnets add a tactile feel “click” but does not increase resistance of the shifter. I don’t think they are meant to do that anyway. Also bought the paddle shifter mod. It works well to add a more positive tactile feel to the paddles. Just note that the fitment onto the steering column requires the user to put some tape under the clamps in order to prevent it from slipping. Bought the clutch and gas pedal adapters to increase spring tension. I don’t think they are effective. Installation is abit of a pain as well.
I appreciate your comment!
How do you get the mod
@@funny_videos2614 I bought mine off of *Etsy.* They work great!
Does the knob come with the h shifter mod
@@DJHeroMasta can you buy it from the website?
I love how this got recommended days after I just received mine. This was very helpful 💯
the big G's too smart
Thaaaaanks this is awesome
I am searching for ideas for upgrades for my self made wood sim rig
its a 60$ shifter from logitech, that i noticed goes on sale often for 35$, in hindsight, you pay for what you get.
where?!!?!
@@keafe4748 bestbuy
True but it has such a toy like feeling that sometimes, it kills the vibe for me
@@TheShakir98 get a real SEQ shifter or a fanatec v1.5
TBH, for the price, the logitech stuff is really really good. Better than it should be.
Randomly got recommended this video, went to their website and placed an order for a few things. I can't wait to try this out!
Thank you so much for this been looking everywhere for a good review, your vids are amazing. well done!
The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is dust getting inside the shifter since the leather seal isn't there anymore.
Because when i don't use my shifter I keep it under my deska which tends to get very dusty.
But anything that can improve the Logitech shifter even just a bit is good.
I was thinking the same thing, so what I did is get a micro fiber cloth and cut a small hole in it just big enough for the shifter stick to go through. Every time I'm done playing I just put the cloth on and its been keeping the inside very clean. Takes a second to put on. Hope this helps.
Cut a small hole in the middle of the cloth - to be precise
@@joshs3905 Thank you! I might try this mod now with this information :)
@@KlushOfficial The mod really did help.. I'm not from U.K so 50 euros seemed a little steep for me. The order process was quick & smooth, and I gotta say, it made a huge difference than how the shifter comes stock.
I used to shift into the wrong the gear all the time and lose most races, this completely stopped me from mis-shifting
So U use a dust Filter for Ur controller, Mouse and Keyboard? U Just Clean IT in 5 Seconds with compressor
Since you mentioned the force needed to move the shifter, CustomSimShop actually make a h-pattern improvement spring for the logitech shifter, increasing the pulling force required to move it in and out of gear from the stock 560 grams, to 1.9 kilograms. I have this mod myself and it is a game changer.
Also check out their quick change handbrake and sequential shifter mod that they also have. It's incredible stuff, the sequential mod especially so for rallying.
I went ahead and ordered the spring upgrade as soon as I saw your comment, cheers for the tip. Really hate how sloppy the regular shifter is so I think this is exactly what it needs.
@@Rmx2011 Same here i hope it's good
@@Rmx2011 so, how was it?
@@Rmx2011how was it? Don’t leave us hanging
@@hungryforce3148any update?
I don’t don’t do driving sims only flight sim. But I recognize the quality of the pieces from the thumbnail and had to watch. Very good quality and a fine video.
only issue I've had with the shifter is with an older model where holding it from the top can sometimes engage reverse and disable any chance of shifting; often happens in 3rd gear a-and there went the race again!
hrmmm clicked this out of curiosity with what mods are out there for my setup but i hadn't noticed a particular problem with miss-shifts or gears popping back out of place like i've seen in some other videos but i also noticed the people with complaints all are using nicer wheel setups with the intended mounting for the shifter whereas i'm just using an only drafting table with the wheel, joystick (AKA 30$ handbrake), and shifter are all on the same level just with the brake(stick) slightly behind the other two to prevent bumping it when moving to shift quickly.
i wonder if perhaps the G29's shifter being a somewhat budget friendly option is designed to work in a tighter space or with the arms higher up than the nice mounts and where most cars would have them IRL. ( i'm just speculating after a morning of mod rabbit-holes)
thanks for the vid, great to see whats out there and you covered it in 6 minutes rather thoroughly so that was appreciated. will definitely be back for more videos!~
[edited for typo]
I've certainly experience more mis-shifts using my Next Level Racing F-GT Lite sim rig with the shifter in a more "realistic" position than when it was on my desk.
@@flipdry ah, interesting to hear my theory has a little more evidence than my just my suspicions.
Same i never misshift with the g29 h shifter but its probably only the people who are used to it since my father sometimes misshifts on it while ive never seen him misshift in a real car.
Honest and simple, the best way to do a review, 1+ sub, one day ill buy some of these upgrades, but living in brazil make things a bit harder :/
I appreciate it! Rooting for Brazil next year ⚽️
Nem me fala! Achou o link do produto?
@@CanalCheckpoint achei algumas coisa da m7help e outras lojas aleatorias, mas só o cambio já é quase 100 reais pra fazer o upgrade
Love your videos, always straight to the point and you have heaps of information.
Hope you can get 20k subs!
Thanks for the review. Just recieved mine and find it so much better than stock. Def recommend
I've never had any problems with the Logi shifters. Had the classic G27 shifter and the new one. Once you get used to it it becomes second nature. I can even shift LHD or RHD without missing gears. However, I do wish it felt a bit sturdier. I have no complains about durability (even my old G27 shifter still works), but it does feel flimsy and it lack that solid snap when shifting a real gear lever.
I though of getting this, but my concerns are that the internal components are exposed. There is grease inside and if you get dust in it, it won't take long until you start experiencing cars popping out of gear, or not getting into gear at all. You are pretty much reducing the life of your shifter.
Second, is that it does look pretty rough. I know it's 3-D printed, but the knob just looks alike a huge hunk of plastic.
If this thing was in a way internal, with a custom boot to keep the dust away, and maybe the ability to use your own custom knob, then it probably be a better choice? I mean, at what point does it stop form being a good investment. The Logi Shifters are only like $60 afterall.
I absolutely love the gear nobs from Gmod but for the magnetic H-Shifter I would rather go with 3drap's H shifter mod. I think their mod is better as provides more pulling force and it still prevents mishifts. The pulling force goes from the stock 450-500g to 2kg of force.
Awesome video, short and to the point, Love it!
Thank you for a wonderful video !!! Looks great and very easy to install .
"doesn't increase the force required to shift through the gears"... makes sense, since the base mechanics aren't altered, just the endpoint where the gearlever clicks into place is altered with this mod, and the feel of the release out of a gear, but not the flow in between those two states.
nice review though, thanks!
Would it be possible to have another mod on top of this that increases the force to shift? So I would have this mod plus another that takes care of the in-between state.
It seems ok and must for my G27 shifter. But I think those gear separators placed inside can easily break.
It’s crazy how good 3D printing has gotten, but I feel if he’s selling this as a product he should maybe make the end product look a little nicer? You could probably design the same one at home at the expense of a weekend or a couple hours
I don't think this mod is very durable ... 3D printing is good, but I doubt it will hold up to serious use for more than a few months.
Yep. Most people ends up breaking these mods after a month or two. Less with heavier uses.
After having used the gate mod for a few weeks, the gates on mine broke off, though I was/am using a extension I made from a 20mm steel rod and shifter from a Deutz tractor, and only really play truck Sims. The magnets were the main reason I got it because they help with the weight off my shift extension.
Cool mod, I like the magnets. No breakable parts unlike other products. I hope they increase the magnetic force.
Totally agree.
I was concerned about the magnets being too powerful.
I feel better to know they tought about it and made the magnets not too powerful, because I already feel the force needed to shift on the vanilla gearknob already very realistic
I currently have this, and after a few weeks of playing, the mod started cracking and it eventually gave out. After getting a replacement shipped to me, the replacement piece broke as well. I do a lot of rally/drifting so that’s probably why but either way the mod is kinda cheap. It’s a good budget mod if you’re down to cruise but wouldn’t recommend for intense rally racing
3d printed pla will become brittle from UV and moisture so best you can get the file and print yourself, you can also get a cheap soldering iron to weld the crack back
Yeah I could tell just from looking at it that the plastic looks cheap and very weak. Some of the pieces just seem way too thin so I'm not sure why he was saying the quality was so high when you can tell just from looking at it that it's not. Something 3d printed like this is going to crack or break from extended use and type of force it'll be put through constantly shifting
Yeah. Making anything that take a few beating once every 30 seconds or less daily definitely ain’t a 3d printing forte. Not yet at least. For mod like this, making it out of solid durable material is much more better options for reliability.
Saw this on eBay for 50 fucking quid earlier. What a joke
@@HPsawus funney things is people will actually buy, and people selling a lot of time just rip it off from thingyverse
Y'see I like that Logitech products have some interchangability- whether intentional or not. This is pretty dope
At the moment in my country costs 35$ so i think its amazing for the prize, and more when the alternative costs 200$, you are getting some good quality for 35$
Great review great product!!
This is awesome. With the shifter tension mod, this would be a great added feel. The tension mod would increase the shift feel.
Dont judge the video quality by the subscribers, u exactly matched that bro keep going!! fantastic
Thank you 🙌
Damn, thanks for this site, very affordable and cool mods for ma wheel
If they made a sequential shifter version would be sick
Agreed
Look up "custom sim shop logitech" they offer an entire sequential conversion. Its cool shit
They do. I have it here and 5 months and both of the mods (h-shifter/sequential perfectly) not from this brand but from 3dwrap
Funnily enough the old version of the Logitech shifter that was sold with the G25 wheel can be switched to sequential mode. Works pretty well and is worth seeking out the old version instead of the new one, also because the old one actually feels somewhat sturdier.
Also, fun fact: the shifter actually isn't based on microswitches for each gear. It just has two potentiometers (X and Y axis) and the stick movement is fully analog, with the gear switch "button presses" simply being simulated for specific stick positions. If you get the Bodnar adapter that allows you to connect the shifter as a standalone USB device, you can customize the actuation of the virtual "buttons" for the gears, which is of great help if you're trying to avoid mishifts, especially as the shifter gets older and the potentiometers drift a bit.
Trust me, It is SOOOO worth it, I made one last week!
Thanks for raising this to others!
And thank you for watching
where can i buy it?
Do you have the stl file
I needed this, thank you.
I love this shifter mod.
I'm guessing they changed the magnets because they are much stronger now.
without hesitation i bought the shifter and knob cant wait for it!!!
Is it good?
Where do you buy it?
If the shifter works similar to an arcade stick then there may be a way to stiffen it up.
The idea is that a spring pulls the stick into the middle/neutral position. If that is the case then exchanging the spring to a stiffer one would solve this complaint.
There is no spring that pulls it to the middle
I ordered this as soon as possible. Thank you!
Did you get it? Did it work?
I have the g25 shifter and if you take the shifter apart and put a piece of rubber or plastic in where the ball bearing and spring are it increases the feel of the gates, makes it feel like you actually have gates lol
Does the nob come with the Magnetic H-Shifter Mod or do you have to buy that by its self? if not does the mod work fine without it?
I can see numerous faults with this, the gear dividers would be the first to break with more aggressive shifters, the magnets would need to be set an angle to match the gear rod and this mod would not do anything to the actual movement through the shifting, and that gear knob should definitely be rounded at the top. The best option would be the one from 3Drap with the optional metal plate which incidentally I criticised before because the piece that was used for the resistance breaks in a matter of a couple of days but they have since solved the problem using different filament for the part.
the actual gear deviders are done within the shifter hence why it works with the stock shifter boot on it which also means the plastic bits that stick out shouldt break off unless your reealllyy agressive with it
iv been drifting and rallying (RBRpro) with this mod for 6 months. its very very strong. i have a honda type r gearknob
I don't even think the dividers could break unless you are physically trying too. Similar to what @Liam Turner said, the rod of the shifter is connected to a mechanical sub-piece that loosely locks into place with little holes in the shifter base. In other words, the system of the shifter does not rely on these dividers. If anything, the dividers are purely cosmetic to make the mod look more like a real life shifter.
All in all, there are likely better alternatives, but this mod shouldn't be ruled out as a piece of crap.
@@Boemel make sure not to leave your setup in direct sunlight them honda shifters main mission are you give you 3rd degree burns XD
@@ay-leck1369 If the shifter doesn't rely on the gates, then it isn't a gated shifter. Except it does rely on those gates.
I enjoy using this finicky shifter. Going back to a better sim, or a rral car is like taking my training weights off and everything is easier
Like the idea of the magnets, honestly idk what else you could do to realistically try to improve the feel. Unfortunately you can only go so powerful before they will probably just pull out of the print to often to give to a consumer.
Cheers man, I'm thinking of getting the shifter, how do you use the reverse gear with this mod?
The reverse gear is unaffected by this mod, thus it still works as usual.
You still push the shifter down and put it into 6th gear
i wont buy this simply because i can just design my own and 3d print it. but i keep watching this vid because its just such high quality content and it def deserves WAY more views
you say it like the vid has 1000 views
@@jensvanbenten7799 299 thousand views later
It really looks like if it was just 3D printed at home
@@GergiH it prob was lol
@@jensvanbenten7799 ahaha 500k
Awesome. Also good sturdy country dialogue ❤
Love your vids and reviews my guy keep up the good work
Thanks! I will 👍
the only concern i would have for buying this is im really hard on my shifter, and im worried i would break the little plastic bridge in between the gears. it would be a lot more confidence inspiring if there as some sort of metal support in between the gears. im going to assume you have this same fear because i noticed you were rowing through the gears gently and softly even in a hardcore ingame scenario.
Stop slamming your shifter like a r*.tard it's not making you shift faster and if you drove a real car you'd probably realize it doesn't work that way anyways.
Do the gates interfere with putting the shifter into reverse?
No you just push it down and go into 6th
Please elaborate
@@szymonp4315 I was curious if the gates prevented the shift lever from moving into reverse, but I had forgotten that reverse was directly underneath 6th.
Pieces below 5th and 6th gear snapped off when I was on the nurburgring.
But I had it about a year so I would kind of put it on me but I'm trying a different one next time mainly because it's closer to where I'm at.
as someone who banged gears with my previous g shifter, probably why it broke, I might consider buying this, I already loved the feel but this seems like a much cheaper option than going for something like a th8a
what I dont like about this is, that it doesnt seem to allow you to add the leather cover back on. Youre exposing the Internals to the open air, making them become dirty over time...
Best H-pattern shifter on the market for it's price. Even TH8A which has 4 times higher price doesn't have enough resistance.
But it has a metal plate instead, which guarantees you won't break the gates if you shift too hard.
ordered it right away! so exciting!!!
You could probably 3d print a dome cap to fix that flat top (or carve it out of wood, if you don't have access to a 3d printer)
what game is he playing in the review?
am i stupid or does this not have a reverse gear ??
It does you gotta push down i think
It does you have to push down and put it in 6th
Push down an pit on 6th
But pushing down with that long shifter could not reach the point of reverse possibly
@@iMixedSkillz you'd be surprised its pretty easy
Their are very easy fixs to the stiffness problem and over all its not that bad you just need to get good with. It also depends on how you hold it I have used it for years and not had a problem
Honestly i was thinking about this mod but opted against it and got the shifter mod from custom sim shop its a lot cheaper than these and make the shifter 100 times better in my opinion, i would take a look at that for better shift resistance
great review as well thank for confirming my suspicions of it
What’s the sim shop called
Ngl that looks sick, wish I had the shifter and the mod.
Just got my first G29 in the mail today, haven’t even set it up yet but no shifter yet, at $60 it’s expensive for the cheap plastic it is.
6 months later I bought the shifter today for $10 off so $50 straight from logitechs website and free shipping, already have all these mods I got in the mail last week
I actually drive a manual car - have done for the last 25 years. Have Toyota 86 manual at the moment.
That will be why I just got good with the stock shifter within the first day with a little practice.
God I'm good. So damn good.
I would love a mod like this that could also 'lock' the stick between 3rd and 4th gear and return the stick to the neutral position after user input so that you can drive the sequential stick shift cars properly. The rubber band trick is alright, but something like this would be much nicer.
Very true! Would love to see something like this as well.
Just get a g25 shifter. It changes between these 2 modes and is basically the same internals iirc
@@theslightlyhillyrider969 but it wont work with a G920 or so I'm told
does it have a reverse bc it doesnt look like it
This with rubber bands would be good...waiting on my handbrake and new wheel to install but the shifter is on my list
Thats amazing i am gonna get this for my first sim racing simulador its cheap and good quality
Bro nice content, keep them coming 👍
Coming right up 👨🍳
this youtube channel is wayyyy underated
Just got the shifter, I miss gift so much this is a must
Dude I wanted a custom knob so bad thank you
I use the MOD CAMBIO V3.5 H-SHIFTER from 3drap which is a better version of this as it has parts that actually give it more tension when changing gears
Nice review 👍🏻
Man I love my th8a shifter
That still looks off with mod
But great idea
if yall still looking on how to reverse, you press down on ur lever at the 6th gear like ur originally supposed too.
there is also spring replacements that make it about 3 more pounds to shift
The print quality looks incredible...Except for all the visible layer shifting on the print you can clearly see.
thank you for this review! What is the game were you playing while trying it out?
The turbo tho!!!!🔥🔥
try getting a shifter made with weights. it will feel alot more rigide with a weighted shift knob
I swear the 3rd gear switch on mine is going out. Maybe I do need this mod.
Well ya sold me. Just ordered one
I need to know if this will handle my hard quick-shifts. Every shift I’ve seen you do in this video is slower and more gentle than I do it when I’m slamming through gears in Forza Motorsport.
With the shifter, I do miss shifts sometimes and it does feel like toy-ish. and sometimes when I'm in first gear it will think that it is third but that rarely happens for me.
I'm planning to do this mod soon as I get my sim stuff all for Christmas, thanks for letting me know what I should and shouldn't expect, would this all be compatible with the G25 shifter since some day I plan to get that since it's overall been downhill shifter wise since the G25.
Yes it’s where sixth is when you push the stick downwarda
If it came with a sequential gate option to use it as a handbrake I'd buy it instantly
to be honest i love the shifter as its stock, it gives a bit more realistic racing simulation for me lol
i also own this shifter mod. do you find all gears feel consistent?
if they all felt like 4th i would give it 10/10
I ordered it also but it still does not solve the cheap feeling of the gear change itself. A little more resistance while shifting would be much better.
this man shifts gears so delicately
It’s called being a ✨gentlemen ✨
@@OCRacing ...And not breaking a plastic part that cannot withstand the abuse people actually perform on gated shifters.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino
That actually just happened to me.
I broke this on the 5th and 6th gear.
Oops
I'm heading to Gmod this month.
Could have stretched a rubber band left to right with the shifter in the hole especially w magnets being there just putting the rubber band would add resistance till magnetized
When shifting it would kick into neutral just being demagnetized
Good luck with the dust getting inside the mechanism and putting it into reverse
No matter how strong the magnets provided are, they will never provide the resistance you're looking for since the metal shaft is only going to be attracted to the magnets, not repelled from them. That shouldn't be a negative point for G-Mod since it is not supposed to create any type of resistance. If you want resistance, you'll have to use rubber bands underneath the gate.
I don’t like the gear re placement but like the shifter with the different style
i think the gated shifter should have a shift boot below it so it looks more clean and lower the base of it. other wise i think its neat
Agreed.
I know this can come off as rude but I dont intend such. I am mostly curious how many people have driven many manuals irl. I personally find the only issue is that its so light feeling compared to actual stick shift. Neat product though :)