“Counterpoint” is also a really good Janeway character development episode. We see her work 1-on-1 with an alien captain solving a problem, and how she deals with intimacy and betrayal.
Honestly, never could get enough of Voyager. Of Janeway as a person, she was the most relatable Captain I found myself wanting to follow after if I had the chance to. I know it's not a popular opinion, or even a liked one. But she did what needed to be done time and time again, the choices weren't the best, and we can sit back and criticize what happened, but more often than not, I agreed with her. Thanks Rick for always uploading these, found your channel a good two years now? And I can't get enough of your content, live long my friend, and may the stars always guide you toward your next project!
Personally she is my favorite captain, i honestly don't think any of the other captains would have done any better than her in that situation. Not only that but i think they would have done worse except maybe Kirk.
She definitely missed a movie for the return home. As a matter of fact, I'm actually waiting for Star Trek Janeway to happen. (The 29th-century Starfleet may not like it but it'd be awesome)
I think the writers of Voyager could have done more with Janeway's personal story of loss. We could have delved deeper into her character seeing how the tragic loss of her father and fiance affected her.
I was quite surprised when I found out that she lost both her father and fiancé ( I might be wrong about this part, she could have saved one but couldn’t). Why on earth did this not come up during the series? It could have been amazing to explore that side of the story in the series. Missed opportunity imo.
What I love about Janeway most, and why she will always be my favourite captain, is that she was incredibly empathic and always acted from a moral or empathic ground. That didn't make her a great tactician, made her go mad once in a while, but it also made her very wholesome and an embodiment of what starfleet stands for. More so than Picard, who also was a great banner carrier of morality, but missed that empathic touch.
A wonderful addition to that film. I think that is where she is noted (in on-screen canon) as an admiral. But her duties may have extended beyond just Borg research/strategy, as this appearance has her ordering a captain to deal with a Romulan situation.
Janeway is actually my favorite captain and sharply or any other Sci-Fi series I know that's not always the most popular thing to say but I do love that character very well played by Kate Mulgrew
I agree....of the four Captains (Janeway, Picard, Sisko and Kirk) Janeway is my favorite. She had the hardest task of the four.....her ship was lost in the Delta Quadrant and they thought it would take a lifetime to get home....if they got home at all.....but she promised to get her crew home. She stumbled a few times along the way, she struggled with doubts.....she fought many enemies....but she never really gave up hope. I respect her....as a woman, as a Captain, as a warrior, I respect her. Like Mulgrew said....Star Trek was a man's club. They had never had a female Captain and they didn't know if it could be done and she came in and showed them exactly why having a woman in the Captain's chair was a good idea.. Her crew became her family. And like others in her crew (particularly Seven and the Doctor) she had to evolve beyond who she was when they first started the journey. She became more than just a Captain....she was a mother figure to many members of her crew (Seven....B'Ellana.....Kes, etc) She became a counselor. An ambassador to new species. A teacher to younger members of her crew (and Seven) I'm proud of her.
One mistake, Janeway was a commander on the Billings and not the commanding officer, her first command was Voyager as she clearly stated several times!
OMG. I love you! You capture her wonderfully, better than most trekkers. The complexity of her emotions and her growth throughout the series is impressive. Better than any other captain. That is why she is my favorite.
Katheryn Janeway was the only captain that when she spoke, she had my attention. The actress’s commanding yet guiding voice really bring a lot from the character, especially when the chips are down and she shows her determination and - in extremes - fury.
I love what you did, redacting the Omega Directive! Caught me off guard, made me do some serious thinking about the episode - and I remembered. Thank you for doing this. Too often we simply sit back and enjoy however when you challenge us to think, to become involved, Star Trek reemerges as the living document that it is.
Honestly, I thought for a second something was happening to my computer, LOL. I loved it too, but, just think of the possibilities if something like that were to happen today. It could stop all cars and gasp....computers!
Janeway will always be my favorite Star Trek Captain. She was the most relatable, and the most likable. To be completely honest, when Voyager first aired, I didn’t particularly like it. Years later when I watched it in syndication, I realized just how good the show was and what a fine character she was. I think the fact that she has such maternal qualities is very endearing.
Yeah just that people Think New is bad Im saying Discovery being woke? Try the originals Just as woke But trust me as the series airs people will enjoy it more
@@seantaggart7382 not all change is good. If we allow some of the bullshit retoric being pushed in colleges right now to become socially acceptable we will be living in a society just as segragated and racist as pre civil war America's south
@@lunaticfae4415 Not all change is good you say? *heh* That's what i thought long ago But we need change Any change is change Even if it returns to before
Recently started rewatching voyager and while most of the characters are great, Janeway is a highlight, I always thought that the doctor had the best ark, going for basically a sentient tool to a living hologram with interest, free time and close friendships formed over time. Plus seeing the doctor in those new situation and watching him learn and grow from it was fantastic I suppose I could relate to that because I was a child when I first saw star trek 😊
Katherine Janeway is an exceptional scientist and probably one of the brightest minds in the Federation. As a command officer, however, she began as well-below average and it is only due to her father that she was given command of a starship. Don't get me wrong, she is an exceptionally capable and driven woman who would undoubted have ended up as the captain of a science vessel and, ultimately, as the Director of the Daystrom Institute. Her experiences in the Delta quadrant allowed her to grow as a command officer, eventually becoming an above-average captain... but not by much. It is only due to the quality of her crew that they survived to get home (and that includes two temporal mulligans--one by Harry and Chakotay, and the other by Janeway herself). I really like Star Trek Voyager, and I like the fact that Captain Janeway was not nearly such a polished leader as Kirk or Picard. It made the show a lot more interesting as we watched ALL of the characters grow and develop. The only thing I would have changed in Voyager is that Kes would have never existed. I absolutely DETEST the character of Kes (and for that matter, Jennifer Lien is a friggin fruitcake IRL). Kes contrasted sharply with Neelix' character and he really doesn't start to develop until she leaves in season 4. P.S. I like the "Redacted" entry on the Omega Directive... that was a nice touch!
ABQSentinel, I agree with everything, u said! I love all the Star Trek series, but Voyager is my favorite by far. And yeah, I really really didnt like Kes, she was so annoying.
Yeah, Kes is pretty much a Mary Sue. No personality other than the “cute, nice girl”. Yet she somehow has the most overpowered psychic abilities short of a Q.
With the character KES you at least know that the writers from Voyager are heavy into D&D she is the perfect sorcerer, but maybe misguided putting it in the Star Trek universe 😜
Janeway was always my favorite captain. Makes me sad she's so heavily critisized when she's been thrown into easily the most danger of the Star Fleet crews followed on a show. They were completely and utterly alone and had no choice but to band together. I didn't agree with her all the time but I don't believe she was meant to be written like the, like Picard and Kirk where they are usually portrayed as being in the right. Janeway is often protrayed as being in the grey area. She's doing her best to stick ti her moral copass and Star Fleet and Federation guidelines but that's difficult to do when it it would take them 75+ years to get close to Federation space. She was met time and time again with one outlandish crisis after the next with no choice but the face them head on
I do agree Janeway was the best Captain for her situation and I did enjoy Voyager more then DS9 (personally hated the series). I also liked Archer more than her due to the fact of he was the first Captain of a vessel that came into contact with Klingons and Romulans, also having the guts to blow up a Borg ship from the inside. Then again, thats my opinion.
@@TurboNerdNews He spent years meditating on his hatred for humanity, which was what his parents had hoped would happen when they sent him to Starfleet in the first place but it kind of had the opposite effect. He overcame his emotions and returned to teach at Starfleet Academy for many years before returning to his duties as an officer.
I love the analysis of her personality in the last part of the video. You have actually helped me understand why I clicked so much with Janeway, and with that helped me understand myself better. Keep up the good work!
When it comes to Big assault weapons in Star Trek it's always Captain Janeway I picture carrying them. She's a very strong leader by example and she is very quick to lead the charge on the defense of her own ship from the inside.
Janeway was a average captain in my opinion but dear god no one get between this women and her crew. She will brake your face. I'd also classified her as a Marvrick.
Janeway did what needed to be done to survive. I dont think Picard would have. His morals would get enterprise destroyed in the delta quadrant. Archer could get through if in command of Voyager no problem.
To be fair; an _Average_ Federation Captain has pretty damn good qualities, each with their own individual species or personality traits that they use to adapt to each situation. *All* the Federation Captains are good captains, but her challenge was definitely one of the greatest, though. A more brazen or individual Captain would have died, imo, she was level headed and reserved and that's what saved her, in the end. Didn't pick sides (apart from with the Borg which was alliance or _become_ Borg or die and that's no choice at all) didn't trade tech as much as she possibly could, protected her crew first.
6:33 right as the Borg image popped up, my upstairs neighbor dropped something super heavy and I nearly had a heart attack at the noise. The Borg are attacking!! 😂
One thing I love about Janeway, is that she makes the effort of knowing everyone on her ship. Picard may have known the officers, but he kept himself distant from even them.... With Janeway, she knows even the random crewmen that could easily have been lost in the shuffle, and knows them well enough to talk about what's going on in their lives (aside from... you know, "Still stuck in the Delta quadrant ma'am.") Granted, she's on a ship with less than 200, not over 1000, and circumstances did kindof force the crew into being more of an extended family unit, but she still made the effort.
Dude your analysis is amazing. Id humbly add that she is on the cusp of Taurus and Gemini, have traits of both signs. Outside of that, such a great and detailed analysis. Id dare say that anyone who would want to write a story of Janeway need not see voyager if you see this vid. Again, dude you nailed it. Total respect.
Captain Janeway is by far the most formidable and capable Captain in Star Trek. She is my favorite Captain! Did she break protocol? Yes, but you have to remember the predicament they were in. And I am sure if they had never left the Alpha Quadrant, things would have went way different.
I liked Voyager and Enterprise ,Best. Janeway is Leader councilor Friend teacher evan Parent, all alone but determined to get the job Done. Excellant Captain, just DON'T get her pissed. Like Equinox, a favorite episode of many. Omagh also. She adopted 7 and patiently taught her. She's a good lady. Like to see her return. Enterprise went out wide eyed and I Loved that show too They did very well but had to grow up fast. As Archer said " we were Explorers and started running into So Many Bad Guys. Tucker said " Now the stakes are higher. Archer said " Weight of The World Trip ".., The show Just got Better and Better ". Wish it continues. Well Happy Holidays Everyone out There and Take Care. Learn and try to be Happy.
I wonder what will happen when the Federation encounters a civilization that has long since developed the Omega Molecule and uses them in almost everything and are a warp capable species.
@King Peppy Bringing back ghosts of people they've killed in the past over this, berating them constantly!! Ah man, I'd watch a whole movie about that lol cheapest billion dollars ever made in box office history!
I like to imagine Janeway sent back to the early 21st century, where she's trapped as an inmate in a women's prison. To survive, she pulls on skills learned from Neelix to gain control of the commissary, while her knowledge of hostile alien cultures helps her navigate the dangerous prison social structure. Janeway's own motherly qualities even help some of the other inmates. You could make a whole series about Janeway in prison - seven seasons worth!
I strongly recommend reading/listening to her autobiography, published 2020 and narrated by Kate Mulgrew in audiobook form. It is absolutely fantastic and I believe it is basically considered canon by the show's producers (judging from the copyright written on the cover). A few things the book states that differ to this video: - Tighe is never mentioned in the book, and the only person she remotely wanted to settle down with was Mark, who proposes to her on several occasions without their relationship despite her declining. She finally accepted over video call just before Voyager left. She mentions that she had flings throughout her various postings before Voyager, but she maintains that there was never any intentions of these going further. Early on, she did have a semi-serious relationship with a guy but she dumped him as he wanted to put his career ahead of hers and for her to essentially give everything up while he sought out a command role. - Janeway was nowhere near her father when he died. In fact, almost everything he did was classified. He was working on a new type of ship at the shipyards designed for combat with the Cardassians. The ship could traverse different environments, from space to a planet's atmosphere to under water. They successfully trialled it several times on an icey planet, and he asked to see it for himself. That time, it failed and he died. Janeway was informed by Captain Paris and had no idea it had happened before then and was completely shocked to learn where he was at the time. She was granted leave and essentially became depressed for a short period of time. - She didn't give up tennis for 19 years. She did lose a match as a teen, however, and took it extremely badly, but went on to win the following year. - She's not the Borg advisor, Seven is. - She didn't discover coffee at the academy, her paternal grandfather introduced it to her when she was intensely studying at his house for her Starfleet entry exams. Obviously this book was written after you made this video and you relied on the sources you had at the time.
A nice profile Rick on my favorite Captain, Katherine Janeway. I would say the 2 part episode "Year of Hell" as well as "Scientific Method" are good examples of this Captain's range...
Janeway is a great captain I would have been honored to be on the voyager with her. And always trying to be as responsible as much as possible and treating her crew as family that's the best way a captain should be.
I love the Janeway character, or how it is supposed to be. But unfortunately, it was Voyager that had Janeway, and not one of the previous series. Not that I would like to replace Picard or Sisko, but Voyager is just... well, it's Voyager. Plot holes everywhere, characters that don't make sense etc. because the writing staff was literally fighting internally for the whole series. Now one has to pick where Janeway is depicted properly and where she is just acting silly because of writer's laziness. That's really frustrating, so this personnel file is really helpful in drawing a coherent picture of her character. Good job!
She’s maybe my second favorite Captain. Behind only perhaps Picard. The unique circumstances of the Voyager however give her an amazing opportunity to examine what Star Fleet stands for and why. I found her breathtaking and vulnerable and strong and complex. Amazing character. And one of the best “strong female characters” in the history of science fiction.
Happy birthday today kate mulgrew. She's my favorite star fleet captain ever. She's given the name captain to all female's who love to wanna command there very own star class ship. She's an inspiration to me and the years of watching star trek Voyager. Intrepid class registry number 74656.😘😘😘
no joke at the part with omega molecule my internet went down and i had the spiny circle right after that star trek computer noise i thought it was part of the vid before i realized my wifi was acting up
Sir; Captain Janeway remains to me to be an extraordinary person in a unique situation. I can only imagine what it was like in a similar situation on HMS Botany Bay. Collecting data, samples, information for the first time. Not knowing whether its important or useless. Every decision one makes effects oneself and the people under your command. Life and death are the reality you deal with on a daily basis. There are days you would prefer to be alone in dark room where no one can see or hear you. That is her fait as a Captain of Voyager in Starfleet...
Without being stranded in the Delta quadrant. I don't think Janeway would have become Admiral, twice. We had a marvelous discussion of this at a science fiction convention. Some people arguing from a US Navy perspective. and some people arguing from what they believed Starfleet to be about.
I know Janeway gets a lot of crap for how she handled herself but I think she handled the situation much like anyone would have. She was in an unknown area of space and she had also lost key members of her crew. She wasn't about to lose anyone else even if it meant violating rules.
Also, Janeway was a scientist and proud of it, not relying on 'just cause' for the answer. But this could also work against her sometimes shutting out possibilities because they didn't fit her definition of what is and what is not.
Voyager. My gateway drug into Star Trek, the first Captain I ever saw in the big chair, and so also the first one where I saw the entire show back to back during it's original run. Certainly one to forge new paths, and she managed very well indeed, given the lack of a support network Voyager was faced with.
My favorite captain, it’s not a very popular opinion but it is what it is, she was a tough, principled if not occasionally too principled, compassionate captain who when taken into account what happened to her ship and crew handled things admirably. I also founder quite relatable
you know what I want to know? If the Equinox had been in the Delta quadrant prior to Voyager pulled in by the caretakers array and taking basically the same route home with obviously some differences especially in the areas of jumping hundreds or thousands of light years, why is it that none of the species they met along the way had heard of Starfleet or the Federation? I know that the Equinox did away with Federation values pretty much but with taking the same route they had to have encountered at least a few of the same species so it doesn't make sense that no one had ever heard of them.
This is my favorite! Captain Janeway is a force, yet they got lost in the Delta quadrant. Still, she is my all time favorite but their ship is smaller than the Enterprise.
Thanks for the video, a good summary of Janeway's life and what makes her tick. I always thought she was the most underrated of the Star Trek captains and certainly is a gutsy survivor has found strength from principals and her crew. The fact she is flawed and plays loose with the Prime Directive when push comes to shove makes her an interesting character. Mulgrew clearly rose to the challenge of doing this the role, she was always interesting to watch even doing mundane things like drink coffee.
you completely forgot that with the help of the traveler, captain picard and the enterprise go to another galaxy, which is much farther than the distance from one part of this galaxy to another.
I'm not much of a trekee, but I've recently been watching through the voyager series', and I gotta say, she's a little all over the place when it comes to the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few, or just brashly putting her crew in serious danger just to shave a little bit of time off their trip home. There have been multiple cases where she's risked her crew for the sake of one or two individuals, and though this is a common trope in media, where she differs is in risking her crew for simple organisms that likely wouldn't appreciate it anyway.
Someone else has probably said so, but Picard did immeasurably more light years than anyone including Janeway when the Traveller blew the Enterprise beyond.. well, everything.
Hello Rick I've been a long fan and this is my first comment love your Channel glad to see you're having more subscribers don't stop what you're doing also thank you
she had the most first contacts second only to Jame T Kirk as per cannon as shown in epsode Friendship One Stardate: 54775.4 Original Airdate: 25 April 2001 James Kirk, and by extension, the NCC-1701 Enterprise still remains the undisputed champion of first contacts, with Janeway coming in second aboard the Voyager. HENDRICKS [on screen]: The Voth, the Kobali, the Vaadwaur. You've made first contact with more species than any captain since James Kirk. JANEWAY: It helps being the only Starfleet ship within thirty thousand light years. HENDRICKS [on screen]: You are being too humble. From the first time you spoke up in my classroom I knew you'd go far. It seems unlikely the she surpassed his record in the final few episodes 😜😜😜...now then... so what do I win?🤨
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Nice touch with the Omega Directive there.
@King Peppy GASP!! An Omega denier!! #YouRomulanTroll !! :-D
We were always at war with Eastasia.
Fleet admiral Alex Zander has lifted the omega directive
Manek Iridius section 31? Those guys are nothing to be afraid of...
Section 31 does not exist. Stop trying to bring them up.
okay but can we get a personnel file on janeways hair
what
Don't fuck with the bun.
Never wanted a woman with a bob before Janeway
Thanks for the daily stupid comment.
Like that bun is more iconic
“Counterpoint” is also a really good Janeway character development episode. We see her work 1-on-1 with an alien captain solving a problem, and how she deals with intimacy and betrayal.
Honestly, never could get enough of Voyager. Of Janeway as a person, she was the most relatable Captain I found myself wanting to follow after if I had the chance to. I know it's not a popular opinion, or even a liked one. But she did what needed to be done time and time again, the choices weren't the best, and we can sit back and criticize what happened, but more often than not, I agreed with her. Thanks Rick for always uploading these, found your channel a good two years now? And I can't get enough of your content, live long my friend, and may the stars always guide you toward your next project!
Personally she is my favorite captain, i honestly don't think any of the other captains would have done any better than her in that situation. Not only that but i think they would have done worse except maybe Kirk.
It's startlingly telling that you relate to the most psychotic/incompetent captain out of the entire franchise.
Mama Janeway best captain. Fight me.
She definitely missed a movie for the return home. As a matter of fact, I'm actually waiting for Star Trek Janeway to happen. (The 29th-century Starfleet may not like it but it'd be awesome)
Joshua Perrine psychotic? Umm, The Sisko?
I think the writers of Voyager could have done more with Janeway's personal story of loss. We could have delved deeper into her character seeing how the tragic loss of her father and fiance affected her.
The Books actually make her out to have lost two.
@Michael Gammon I don't agree.
I was quite surprised when I found out that she lost both her father and fiancé ( I might be wrong about this part, she could have saved one but couldn’t). Why on earth did this not come up during the series? It could have been amazing to explore that side of the story in the series. Missed opportunity imo.
YES ! My favourite Captain.
(....I miss Voyager....sniff.....)
Me too bud me too.
I miss Tuvix
@@velnz5475 he was the best... they killed the best accident ever
@@velnz5475 samee
She was like a mother to her crew. she just seemed like a good leader and very caring person.
What I love about Janeway most, and why she will always be my favourite captain, is that she was incredibly empathic and always acted from a moral or empathic ground. That didn't make her a great tactician, made her go mad once in a while, but it also made her very wholesome and an embodiment of what starfleet stands for. More so than Picard, who also was a great banner carrier of morality, but missed that empathic touch.
You miss the last time we see Kathryn Janeway... In "Nemesis" when she contacts Picard to send the Enterprise E to Romulus.
A wonderful addition to that film. I think that is where she is noted (in on-screen canon) as an admiral. But her duties may have extended beyond just Borg research/strategy, as this appearance has her ordering a captain to deal with a Romulan situation.
The Janeway: "Hey Jean-Luc, I'm sending you to Romulus... _in a torpedo!"_
@@andrewgray573 psycho Janeway is best Janeway 😁
@@bobkilla430 there are two ways, the wring way and the janeway.
@@philiptite6254 She was actually a Vice-Admiral, meaning she skipped both ranks of Corporal (I think if they follow the old style of Navy ranks)
Janeway is actually my favorite captain and sharply or any other Sci-Fi series I know that's not always the most popular thing to say but I do love that character very well played by Kate Mulgrew
I agree....of the four Captains (Janeway, Picard, Sisko and Kirk) Janeway is my favorite. She had the hardest task of the four.....her ship was lost in the Delta Quadrant and they thought it would take a lifetime to get home....if they got home at all.....but she promised to get her crew home. She stumbled a few times along the way, she struggled with doubts.....she fought many enemies....but she never really gave up hope. I respect her....as a woman, as a Captain, as a warrior, I respect her. Like Mulgrew said....Star Trek was a man's club. They had never had a female Captain and they didn't know if it could be done and she came in and showed them exactly why having a woman in the Captain's chair was a good idea.. Her crew became her family. And like others in her crew (particularly Seven and the Doctor) she had to evolve beyond who she was when they first started the journey. She became more than just a Captain....she was a mother figure to many members of her crew (Seven....B'Ellana.....Kes, etc) She became a counselor. An ambassador to new species. A teacher to younger members of her crew (and Seven) I'm proud of her.
She's my favorite star fleet captain simply because I feel like she held Voyager down through impossible odds
She's my favorite as well. Followed closely by Sisko, then Kirk. And dead last would be Picard.
@@CeltycSparrow 4? you missed Archer and Pike
One mistake, Janeway was a commander on the Billings and not the commanding officer, her first command was Voyager as she clearly stated several times!
OMG. I love you! You capture her wonderfully, better than most trekkers. The complexity of her emotions and her growth throughout the series is impressive. Better than any other captain. That is why she is my favorite.
The Omega Particle is also the closest thing the Borg Collective comes to admiration of something.
Yeah it’s almost like a religion to them.
Katheryn Janeway was the only captain that when she spoke, she had my attention.
The actress’s commanding yet guiding voice really bring a lot from the character, especially when the chips are down and she shows her determination and - in extremes - fury.
I love what you did, redacting the Omega Directive! Caught me off guard, made me do some serious thinking about the episode - and I remembered. Thank you for doing this. Too often we simply sit back and enjoy however when you challenge us to think, to become involved, Star Trek reemerges as the living document that it is.
Honestly, I thought for a second something was happening to my computer, LOL. I loved it too, but, just think of the possibilities if something like that were to happen today. It could stop all cars and gasp....computers!
Janeway is by far my favourite Captain. Voyager was just fantastic. I wish it was able to go on a season longer.
Janeway will always be my favorite Star Trek Captain. She was the most relatable, and the most likable. To be completely honest, when Voyager first aired, I didn’t particularly like it. Years later when I watched it in syndication, I realized just how good the show was and what a fine character she was. I think the fact that she has such maternal qualities is very endearing.
Yeah just that people Think New is bad
Im saying
Discovery being woke?
Try the originals
Just as woke
But trust me as the series airs people will enjoy it more
@@seantaggart7382 Discovery is much more Woke and incredibly, incredibly stupid.
@@Bolshevik.remover So what?
Issue is That This is a changing world
If you dont Get with changes you're gonna be left behind
@@seantaggart7382 not all change is good. If we allow some of the bullshit retoric being pushed in colleges right now to become socially acceptable we will be living in a society just as segragated and racist as pre civil war America's south
@@lunaticfae4415 Not all change is good you say?
*heh*
That's what i thought long ago
But we need change
Any change is change
Even if it returns to before
Recently started rewatching voyager and while most of the characters are great, Janeway is a highlight, I always thought that the doctor had the best ark, going for basically a sentient tool to a living hologram with interest, free time and close friendships formed over time. Plus seeing the doctor in those new situation and watching him learn and grow from it was fantastic I suppose I could relate to that because I was a child when I first saw star trek 😊
Katherine Janeway is an exceptional scientist and probably one of the brightest minds in the Federation. As a command officer, however, she began as well-below average and it is only due to her father that she was given command of a starship. Don't get me wrong, she is an exceptionally capable and driven woman who would undoubted have ended up as the captain of a science vessel and, ultimately, as the Director of the Daystrom Institute. Her experiences in the Delta quadrant allowed her to grow as a command officer, eventually becoming an above-average captain... but not by much. It is only due to the quality of her crew that they survived to get home (and that includes two temporal mulligans--one by Harry and Chakotay, and the other by Janeway herself).
I really like Star Trek Voyager, and I like the fact that Captain Janeway was not nearly such a polished leader as Kirk or Picard. It made the show a lot more interesting as we watched ALL of the characters grow and develop. The only thing I would have changed in Voyager is that Kes would have never existed. I absolutely DETEST the character of Kes (and for that matter, Jennifer Lien is a friggin fruitcake IRL). Kes contrasted sharply with Neelix' character and he really doesn't start to develop until she leaves in season 4.
P.S. I like the "Redacted" entry on the Omega Directive... that was a nice touch!
Kes is my waifu.
ABQSentinel, I agree with everything, u said! I love all the Star Trek series, but Voyager is my favorite by far. And yeah, I really really didnt like Kes, she was so annoying.
Yeah, Kes is pretty much a Mary Sue. No personality other than the “cute, nice girl”. Yet she somehow has the most overpowered psychic abilities short of a Q.
To be fair, neelix's character contrasts sharply with *any* sane individual.
With the character KES you at least know that the writers from Voyager are heavy into D&D she is the perfect sorcerer, but maybe misguided putting it in the Star Trek universe 😜
Janeway was always my favorite captain. Makes me sad she's so heavily critisized when she's been thrown into easily the most danger of the Star Fleet crews followed on a show. They were completely and utterly alone and had no choice but to band together. I didn't agree with her all the time but I don't believe she was meant to be written like the, like Picard and Kirk where they are usually portrayed as being in the right. Janeway is often protrayed as being in the grey area. She's doing her best to stick ti her moral copass and Star Fleet and Federation guidelines but that's difficult to do when it it would take them 75+ years to get close to Federation space. She was met time and time again with one outlandish crisis after the next with no choice but the face them head on
Alone with infinite torpedoes and shuttles
@@joshuaperrine2019 While you're picking nits, could you get the ones on my back? Thanks.
I do agree Janeway was the best Captain for her situation and I did enjoy Voyager more then DS9 (personally hated the series). I also liked Archer more than her due to the fact of he was the first Captain of a vessel that came into contact with Klingons and Romulans, also having the guts to blow up a Borg ship from the inside. Then again, thats my opinion.
I love how you covered [REDACTED].
Please do Tuvok. He was on the Excelsior under Sulu and was still an Ensign decades later under Janeway?
He served twice two seperate careers, dont know what he did in between tho
@@TurboNerdNews He was an instructor at starfleet for some of that time.
He was away from Starfleet for about 50 years, hence the lack of promotion.
Hes a Lt not a ensign
@@TurboNerdNews He spent years meditating on his hatred for humanity, which was what his parents had hoped would happen when they sent him to Starfleet in the first place but it kind of had the opposite effect. He overcame his emotions and returned to teach at Starfleet Academy for many years before returning to his duties as an officer.
I would love to see a personnel file for Dax the symbiot!
Somedude 17 Yes, absolutely
It'd be interesting to know The experiences of all of Dax's hosts
Karl Smith LOL that would take an hour
@@michaelesposito2629 I'm game if you are?!?
I love the analysis of her personality in the last part of the video. You have actually helped me understand why I clicked so much with Janeway, and with that helped me understand myself better. Keep up the good work!
Bride of Chaotica rocks
Lol yes!
"HA! You're no MATCH for ARACHNIA!"
When it comes to Big assault weapons in Star Trek it's always Captain Janeway I picture carrying them. She's a very strong leader by example and she is very quick to lead the charge on the defense of her own ship from the inside.
The *Omega Directive* segment of this was... _perfect._
Janeway was a average captain in my opinion but dear god no one get between this women and her crew. She will brake your face. I'd also classified her as a Marvrick.
Kathryn Janeway was the finest Capt in the federation. Stranded forty light years away, she brings her ship and her crew home.
alaster boneman well coffee always comes first for her though lol
Jack Betz you mean 70,000 light years
Janeway did what needed to be done to survive. I dont think Picard would have. His morals would get enterprise destroyed in the delta quadrant. Archer could get through if in command of Voyager no problem.
To be fair; an _Average_ Federation Captain has pretty damn good qualities, each with their own individual species or personality traits that they use to adapt to each situation.
*All* the Federation Captains are good captains, but her challenge was definitely one of the greatest, though.
A more brazen or individual Captain would have died, imo, she was level headed and reserved and that's what saved her, in the end.
Didn't pick sides (apart from with the Borg which was alliance or _become_ Borg or die and that's no choice at all) didn't trade tech as much as she possibly could, protected her crew first.
My favorite Captain :) Year of Hell i think tells you everything you need to know about her.
LOVE the omega directive bit. The detail did not go unoticed ;) gj
6:33 right as the Borg image popped up, my upstairs neighbor dropped something super heavy and I nearly had a heart attack at the noise. The Borg are attacking!! 😂
One thing I love about Janeway, is that she makes the effort of knowing everyone on her ship. Picard may have known the officers, but he kept himself distant from even them.... With Janeway, she knows even the random crewmen that could easily have been lost in the shuffle, and knows them well enough to talk about what's going on in their lives (aside from... you know, "Still stuck in the Delta quadrant ma'am.")
Granted, she's on a ship with less than 200, not over 1000, and circumstances did kindof force the crew into being more of an extended family unit, but she still made the effort.
Dude your analysis is amazing. Id humbly add that she is on the cusp of Taurus and Gemini, have traits of both signs. Outside of that, such a great and detailed analysis. Id dare say that anyone who would want to write a story of Janeway need not see voyager if you see this vid. Again, dude you nailed it. Total respect.
Captain Janaway is the best.... hands down...
Future subjects for the personal files, captain archer, Dax, Kirk, Tom Paris.
Darien Evans let's not forget Worf, Commander Riker, Dr Crusher, Geordi Laforge, Tasha Yar, Dr McCoy, Montgomery Scott, Chekov, Sulu, Spock, Uhura, Counselor Troi,
Captain Janeway is by far the most formidable and capable Captain in Star Trek. She is my favorite Captain! Did she break protocol? Yes, but you have to remember the predicament they were in. And I am sure if they had never left the Alpha Quadrant, things would have went way different.
My absolute favourite Federation Captain. I love Admiral Janeway, I wish they would do a movie on Voyager
The best captain ever. Extremely underrated.
I liked Voyager and Enterprise ,Best. Janeway is Leader councilor Friend teacher evan Parent, all alone but determined to get the job Done. Excellant Captain, just DON'T get her pissed. Like Equinox, a favorite episode of many. Omagh also. She adopted 7 and patiently taught her. She's a good lady. Like to see her return. Enterprise went out wide eyed and I Loved that show too
They did very well but had to grow up fast. As Archer said " we were Explorers and started running into So Many Bad Guys. Tucker said " Now the stakes are higher. Archer said " Weight of The World Trip ".., The show Just got Better and Better ". Wish it continues. Well Happy Holidays Everyone out There and Take Care. Learn and try to be Happy.
I wonder what will happen when the Federation encounters a civilization that has long since developed the Omega Molecule and uses them in almost everything and are a warp capable species.
...Depending on the civilization's behavior to other civilizations, i could see ALL sorts of things occuring.
@King Peppy Bringing back ghosts of people they've killed in the past over this, berating them constantly!!
Ah man, I'd watch a whole movie about that lol cheapest billion dollars ever made in box office history!
Thanks Rick - another great profile.
Now for the ST Prodigy update!
I like to imagine Janeway sent back to the early 21st century, where she's trapped as an inmate in a women's prison. To survive, she pulls on skills learned from Neelix to gain control of the commissary, while her knowledge of hostile alien cultures helps her navigate the dangerous prison social structure. Janeway's own motherly qualities even help some of the other inmates. You could make a whole series about Janeway in prison - seven seasons worth!
I see what you did there, protect the directives
The doctor: you and lt paris turned into super evolved humans and had children
Janeway: lets ditch them on a planet and forget about it
I strongly recommend reading/listening to her autobiography, published 2020 and narrated by Kate Mulgrew in audiobook form. It is absolutely fantastic and I believe it is basically considered canon by the show's producers (judging from the copyright written on the cover). A few things the book states that differ to this video:
- Tighe is never mentioned in the book, and the only person she remotely wanted to settle down with was Mark, who proposes to her on several occasions without their relationship despite her declining. She finally accepted over video call just before Voyager left. She mentions that she had flings throughout her various postings before Voyager, but she maintains that there was never any intentions of these going further. Early on, she did have a semi-serious relationship with a guy but she dumped him as he wanted to put his career ahead of hers and for her to essentially give everything up while he sought out a command role.
- Janeway was nowhere near her father when he died. In fact, almost everything he did was classified. He was working on a new type of ship at the shipyards designed for combat with the Cardassians. The ship could traverse different environments, from space to a planet's atmosphere to under water. They successfully trialled it several times on an icey planet, and he asked to see it for himself. That time, it failed and he died. Janeway was informed by Captain Paris and had no idea it had happened before then and was completely shocked to learn where he was at the time. She was granted leave and essentially became depressed for a short period of time.
- She didn't give up tennis for 19 years. She did lose a match as a teen, however, and took it extremely badly, but went on to win the following year.
- She's not the Borg advisor, Seven is.
- She didn't discover coffee at the academy, her paternal grandfather introduced it to her when she was intensely studying at his house for her Starfleet entry exams.
Obviously this book was written after you made this video and you relied on the sources you had at the time.
A nice profile Rick on my favorite Captain, Katherine Janeway. I would say the 2 part episode "Year of Hell" as well as "Scientific Method" are good examples of this Captain's range...
Janeway is a great captain I would have been honored to be on the voyager with her. And always trying to be as responsible as much as possible and treating her crew as family that's the best way a captain should be.
That is not where the record ends officially. She was promoted to Admiral.
I love the Janeway character, or how it is supposed to be. But unfortunately, it was Voyager that had Janeway, and not one of the previous series. Not that I would like to replace Picard or Sisko, but Voyager is just... well, it's Voyager. Plot holes everywhere, characters that don't make sense etc. because the writing staff was literally fighting internally for the whole series. Now one has to pick where Janeway is depicted properly and where she is just acting silly because of writer's laziness. That's really frustrating, so this personnel file is really helpful in drawing a coherent picture of her character. Good job!
I would love it if she would just "show up" on Picard. Seven is coming, so we are due for an appearance of Janeway.
7:06 Brilliant :)
Also, nice to see positive, well-researched Voyager content on YT. Thank you. Please continue.
What a well presented video! It was a treat to watch. Thank you!
I adore Janeway. Thank you for this! :)
Fun Fact: Janeway's doctoral thesis was "Compact Halo Objects," though the book doesn't go into detail as to what that entails.
She’s maybe my second favorite Captain. Behind only perhaps Picard. The unique circumstances of the Voyager however give her an amazing opportunity to examine what Star Fleet stands for and why. I found her breathtaking and vulnerable and strong and complex. Amazing character. And one of the best “strong female characters” in the history of science fiction.
Happy birthday today kate mulgrew. She's my favorite star fleet captain ever. She's given the name captain to all female's who love to wanna command there very own star class ship. She's an inspiration to me and the years of watching star trek Voyager. Intrepid class registry number 74656.😘😘😘
i love the omega directive skit. very creative.
Excellent information. Loved the video.
Please do one of these for someone Like Dylan Hunt form Andromeda
no joke at the part with omega molecule my internet went down and i had the spiny circle right after that star trek computer noise i thought it was part of the vid before i realized my wifi was acting up
Sir; Captain Janeway remains to me to be an extraordinary person in a unique situation.
I can only imagine what it was like in a similar situation on HMS Botany Bay.
Collecting data, samples, information for the first time. Not knowing whether its important or useless.
Every decision one makes effects oneself and the people under your command. Life and death are the reality you deal with on a daily basis.
There are days you would prefer to be alone in dark room where no one can see or hear you.
That is her fait as a Captain of Voyager in Starfleet...
Without being stranded in the Delta quadrant. I don't think Janeway would have become Admiral, twice. We had a marvelous discussion of this at a science fiction convention. Some people arguing from a US Navy perspective. and some people arguing from what they believed Starfleet to be about.
Janeway is awesome. I hope she pops up in Picard. And your video was so comprehensive & enjoyable, thanks 🙏🏻
Thank you for the briefing
I know Janeway gets a lot of crap for how she handled herself but I think she handled the situation much like anyone would have. She was in an unknown area of space and she had also lost key members of her crew. She wasn't about to lose anyone else even if it meant violating rules.
Loved the omega redact!!!
Also, Janeway was a scientist and proud of it, not relying on 'just cause' for the answer. But this could also work against her sometimes shutting out possibilities because they didn't fit her definition of what is and what is not.
Janeway's father was played by Len Cariou aka Henry Reagan on Blue Bloods.
Voyager. My gateway drug into Star Trek, the first Captain I ever saw in the big chair, and so also the first one where I saw the entire show back to back during it's original run. Certainly one to forge new paths, and she managed very well indeed, given the lack of a support network Voyager was faced with.
My favorite captain, it’s not a very popular opinion but it is what it is, she was a tough, principled if not occasionally too principled, compassionate captain who when taken into account what happened to her ship and crew handled things admirably. I also founder quite relatable
She sounds alot like me , at work I tend to bend the rules a bit to get things done faster but as I get older, I'm a bit wiser
My favorite Federation Iron Lady.
you know what I want to know? If the Equinox had been in the Delta quadrant prior to Voyager pulled in by the caretakers array and taking basically the same route home with obviously some differences especially in the areas of jumping hundreds or thousands of light years, why is it that none of the species they met along the way had heard of Starfleet or the Federation? I know that the Equinox did away with Federation values pretty much but with taking the same route they had to have encountered at least a few of the same species so it doesn't make sense that no one had ever heard of them.
This is my favorite! Captain Janeway is a force, yet they got lost in the Delta quadrant. Still, she is my all time favorite but their ship is smaller than the Enterprise.
Thanks for the video, a good summary of Janeway's life and what makes her tick. I always thought she was the most underrated of the Star Trek captains and certainly is a gutsy survivor has found strength from principals and her crew. The fact she is flawed and plays loose with the Prime Directive when push comes to shove makes her an interesting character. Mulgrew clearly rose to the challenge of doing this the role, she was always interesting to watch even doing mundane things like drink coffee.
Very nice touch with that level 10 clearance item which won't be named.
you completely forgot that with the help of the traveler, captain picard and the enterprise go to another galaxy, which is much farther than the distance from one part of this galaxy to another.
Did you forget about the tennis matches between her and 7 of 9
I'm not much of a trekee, but I've recently been watching through the voyager series', and I gotta say, she's a little all over the place when it comes to the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few, or just brashly putting her crew in serious danger just to shave a little bit of time off their trip home. There have been multiple cases where she's risked her crew for the sake of one or two individuals, and though this is a common trope in media, where she differs is in risking her crew for simple organisms that likely wouldn't appreciate it anyway.
Someone else has probably said so, but Picard did immeasurably more light years than anyone including Janeway when the Traveller blew the Enterprise beyond.. well, everything.
How about during a profile of Capt. Jonathan Archer?
Thank you
Good video! In my humble opinion, Kirk and Janeway were the best captains.
Life story of a great captain
Captain Janeway is my favorite character on Voyager since 2000 to 2022.
i would love it if you update this now that the book (the autobiography of Kathryn Janeway) came out
I feel far too many people are hard on this series. I enjoyed it and will still rewatch key episodes.
Stargate Universe did an infinitely better job at the premise.
Janeway is an awesome Captain, my fourth favorite. ^_^
Very good one!
What about Archer, Kirk, Pike and Sulu?
My favorite captain
"Janeway.. "
You know ur a beast when your name strikes fear in the Borg queen.
Equinox and Endgame are the best to understand her.
An average captain in a VERY un-average situation 🌌👽
Didn't the traveller take the Enterprise D farther that the caretaker took Voyager? If so, Picard takes most light years logged crown.
I believe we can all agree that Janeway is probably the Starfleet Captain that's been into the deepest captain in the Star Trek multiverse
Very informative and I didn't know most of this
Hello Rick I've been a long fan and this is my first comment love your Channel glad to see you're having more subscribers don't stop what you're doing also thank you
Thanks!
Can you do a video about Full Circle and the fleet sent back to the Delta quadrant please? Loving the videos.
awesome job as always :)
she had the most first contacts second only to Jame T Kirk as per cannon as shown in epsode Friendship One Stardate: 54775.4
Original Airdate: 25 April 2001
James Kirk, and by extension, the NCC-1701 Enterprise still remains the undisputed champion of first contacts, with Janeway coming in second aboard the Voyager.
HENDRICKS [on screen]: The Voth, the Kobali, the Vaadwaur. You've made first contact with more species than any captain since James Kirk.
JANEWAY: It helps being the only Starfleet ship within thirty thousand light years.
HENDRICKS [on screen]: You are being too humble. From the first time you spoke up in my classroom I knew you'd go far.
It seems unlikely the she surpassed his record in the final few episodes 😜😜😜...now then... so what do I win?🤨