DENOBULANS: Cultural Index
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- The Denobulans are known for their hospitality and social nature as well as the vast population of their homeworld, Denobula.
But there must be more to the species than what we see? They've been right beside humanity for as long as Starfleet took its first steps into the stars but they weren't a founding member of the United Federation of Planets or even a member of the Coalition.
Why is that?
This is the Cultural Index a series aimed at exploring various Science-Fiction species.
For outsiders to a series to get to know the basics and maybe even hardened Sci-fi nuts might discover something new.
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That episode with Trip trying his hardest to keep Phlox's wife away because she was interested the doffrent culture clash and Phlox asking why wouldnt you want to sleep with my wife. Trip's reaction is priceless.
Yeah i liked that episode
Trip is a good old southern boy.
Tbh he would do the do if he got some fucken pecan-pie
Phlox's reaction to Trip's reaction is evenmore priceless !
Now that I think about it, I wonder now if the whole thing was some kind of "in joke" among the Denobulans knowing that other, more.... innocent?.... races would react the way Trip did, especially when they both say "Humans!" and just start laughing heartily after Trip leaves.
Dr. Phlox has always been my second favorite doctor on any Star Trek series. He was an excellent character played by a excellent actor.
First being?
@Tiche CoMC I'd probably say the Doctor from Voyager, but it's very close. I don't think it's even because one is all that better than the other, but it seems to me the Doctor from Voyager just had more stories focused upon him. So had more time to flesh out his character.
My first choice would be Bones McCoy.
@@piobmhor8529 I'm forced to agree, but then again I'm a softy for history. I do think the Doctor was probably the best part of Voyager and a great character. Bashir was good towards the end, so he's third. He just wasn't that interesting from the beginning like the Doctor was.
I'm not sure, myself. I think, for me, it's a toss-up between McCoy, Phlox, and The Doctor from Voyager. My least favorite is Bashir as there are only a couple of episodes that I liked him as a character in.
Under rated species. They canned STE just as the kinks got worked out.
Yeah, but what can you do? That was Paramount, after all.
I was disappointed that it only lasted four seasons.
they just dont cancel *cough* like they used to
You don't take 4 and a half seasons to start working out kinks. TNG took a season and a half, DS9 too. That's more than most networks would tolerate already.
And how much interfere was the network giving them?
Look to real cause. Corporate marketing wanting a merch line.
Looking at the Denobulans, one would imagine that there would be a lot more of them in Starfleet than are shown on screen. They're eager, social, and highly curious, which are the traits that humanity often exhibits in the series, and the traits that are shown to be why humanity is so indispensable to the Federation.
It's pretty easy to imagine they were always around, ... I think some of the same general makeup scheme was used on other background species, so it'd be easy to not notice another set of face-ridges.
Also they look like cardassians
@polyopoly They are a highly communal society.Unlike humanity they never had the desire to expand their territory.Nor were they very interested in exploration even at the dawn of their space age.So chances are as the video mentioned you might stumble upon a denobulan or a team within the federation or elsewhere here and there.But since they have not setup colonies it is safe to say it would be an extremely rare encounter.
Well, they most likely was but since they were not invented/fleshed out in earlier series...
They weren't part of the federation. And during ENT, there was no federation. Starfleet at that point was just an earth organization. Phlox was just part of an early exchange program. Earth only had something like 10K aliens on the entire planet near the end of the series. So it wouldn't really make sense that starfleet would be full of denobulans.
Dr. Phlox was great. Comparing him to Bones or the EMH would be unfair but he is certainly up there. John Billingsley is a great actor.
I loved billingsley on Stargate.
@✊🏿 Mrsotiredofthenewyoutubes✊🏿 there were a handful of times he wasn't
He was funny as hell on True Blood, great actor
That's it, really! Billingsley is a great actor, not only here in ENT. But Bones, it's impossible to compare both characters, they have different purposes, Phlox is alien and curious and not like doctor McCoy
Denobulans seem like Hobbits... just taller and inflatable.
That bar scene where Phlox is about to get clocked in that face had me rolling on the floor when his face puffed up like a balloon.
Hobbits are not polyamorous.
@@ClarinoI yeah
Some of my favorite episodes of Star Trek are from Phlox's perspective. Wisdom mixed with wild curiosity, with just a hint of dramatic irony in that the audience knew that Denobulans knew far less than they portended. Lovely character.
One of my favorite races in Star Trek universe...but you forgot something, Rick. Male denobulans are to shy when they are in a relantionship with a female (Pholx Said that female denobulans look for a partner...an not the other way around)
Ah, Denobulans. They're fvorites for being some of the most *likeable* people out there. It's probably just a lot of fun to hang out with Denobulan people socially, I've always thought.
Oh, though. Actually, that sudden face-puffing thing actually probably *could* startle a lot of vertebrates of various species. If you've ever been caught by surprise by similar defense mechanisms in certain Earth animals, there *is* often an interrupt in the limbic responses that can cause at *least* hesitation. People tend to overthink this like, 'Animals might think the prey became bigger, but we know they're not,' but a startle response is something that *can* leave a good opening for, say, someone trained, to exploit to fight or flee. Phlox just doesn't seem to be that sort of *guy,* is all. He's a friendly doctor who had a reflexive response and was mostly just shocked, confused and embarrassed. If he were a fighting Denobulan, though... that probably could have been useful.
Also it might not work against sapients, but there is a reason geese are so successful.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 Geese are gangsters bro period 😂
Wasn't Phlox a former solider? I pretty sure he was a combat medic so he knows his was around a phase pistol and fists.
Phlox would probably get a kick outta Minecraft. Also, I vote Malon.
Long tongues and elastic skin... Does that mean that Gene Simmons from Kiss is a Denobulan?
The face paint hides it well
I thought he was a "Gorn" under all that makeup, with a fake rubber human nose, ears and the wig. 🤔
One of the most creative races ever introduced to Star Trek. It's too bad we will probably never see one again :(
Maybe in the Picard show.
Great video, the denobulans is one my favorite species from ST:Enterprise, the Dr. Phlox was a great character, some episodes with the Doctor are Dear Doctor, Doctor's Orders and The Augments
The Polyamourous of the startrek univers! I love that speecies! Phlox is the awesomest character of ST enterprise!
I have to wonder if the in-universe (as opposed to out of universe, where they hadn't been invented yet) explanation as to why they aren't around in the TOS and TNG era is simply that Denobulan aren't interested in being of Starfleet and would rather just keep working as semi-independent or under the Denobulan government (or other organizations from Denobula). Then again, the TNG era kept mentioning but never showing Andorian and Tellarite so we have to assume they simply were around but never appeared on-screen.
There was an Andorian seen in the background shots on Risa when Picard went there. We also learned that Starfleet ships didn't have to be mixed crews, that they could have crews exclusively from their own worlds. Andorians and Tellarites always portrayed as seeing humans with disgust and may not have been comfortable with them in person.
In the Enterprise books written about the Romulan War, Denobula suffered a catastrophic attack by the Romulans. It wasn't wiped out. But, it killed a great deal of their population and changed their priorities for generations. That was written to explain things for ToS and TNG.
Can’t tell you how much I enjoy these Star Trek indexes, please please continue!!
The Denobulans quickly became a favorite of mine on Enterprise. I sort of wished they had been a founding member of the Federation since Alpha Centauri was a human colony, sort of taking the place of the fifth founding world. Ah well.
Facing Denobulans in a war must be terrifying. I find that the more empathic and friendly a person (or species in this case) is under normal circumstances the more effective they are in confrontations once you somehow managed to really piss them off.
So imagine a thousand extremely angry Denobulans charging at your position with puffed faces and loaded weapons. And empathy is extremely useful because it allows one to better predict other peoples actions.
You better have your last will in order.
I feel the same way about that, and it's also why I think klingons are overrated with an exaggerated reputation.
@@JanetStarChild klingons are fierce fighters but they tend to do stupid crap to seem heroic, underestimate opponents and while their lack of self preservation instincs might come in handy sometimes most of the time that means they die needlessly.
Just look at their boarding assault on DS9. More than half of them beamed in with a Bat'leth in hand instead of their distuptor. When that strategy works it is brutally effective, but how many of them were just shot before they could close even the little gap that existed. With a disruptor they could have immediatly started firing instead of having to run at armed men with phasers. That would not have made it easier for them but it would have cut losses.
When a Klingon has the choice between a safe/easy strategy or a daring/risky one they will almost always go for the daring one becaude it makes for better songs.
I love the guys, but if they had that aspect of their personality better under control they would be truly terrifying opponents.
Votes for the next Index Below:
The Green Gamorreans. -oink-
The meddlesome Malon.
Well that's a tough choice. I don't like *_either_* species, but I know less about the space porcines. Might as well aim to learn something. |3
I vote Malon, on the condition that you dive deep into their core worker mythology.
Malon
I must say that Dr. Phlox is one of my favorite Denobulans.
Phlox's puffed up face is always funny.
Your voice is absolutely perfect for this. Great job.
My suggestion for a race to do at some future point is the Kelvan Empire of Star Trek. They are a looming threat that will finally arrive and attack the entire Milky Way in the 123rd Century but they were first shown in TOS.
123rd? From the very little we know of that empire I thinks it's likely by then the federation (or whoever runs the milkyway at that point) would outclass them by a large margin
@@wingedfish1175 They _do_ own the entire Andromeda Galaxy, and will be evacuating the entirety of that galaxy in the form of their invading force. It's possible the Milky Way might still be divided at that point, and the entirety of Andromeda would be desperate for a new home thanks to radiation ruining their old home. The Kelvans would have at the very least a huge numbers advantage, and there's nothing to say they won't continue to advance their own tech.
Denobula was also conquered during the Earth/Romulan war of the 2150's and the Romulans murdered millions of Denobulans. As the Romulans used Denobula as a strong hold in the failed attack on Earth. Towards the end of the war the Denobulans sent a fleet with one NX ship to Romulas as a luring attack whilst the main battle at Cheron happened. When the Romulans saw that the Denobulans were about to attack their home world they retreated from Cheron hence the battle was lost and Earth won the war in a stalemate.
Phillip Hall that’s the best explanation for why we never see any Denobulans “after” Enterprise. Obviously they hadn’t been invented yet during TNG, DS9, VOY, but killing millions would probably make them more fearful of venturing out plus there’d be a lot less of them to encounter. I think the only non-Enterprise Denobulan I can remember was that one crew member on the Enterprise-E in Elite Force II.
@@mb2000 The slaughter and damage the Romulans caused is the main reason why the Denobulans didn't join the UFP till about Christopher Pike time I believe as I know the Trill, Saurians and Deltans became members before the Denobulans did. A Denobulan is mentioned in the Vanguard books and then again as the deputy chief medical officer on the Enterprise E in the Time To books.
I hadn't heard that...that's really sad.
I didn't like Phlox at first in the Enterprise series, but soon learned to appreciate his character and I thought John Billingsley brought that character to life with so many fascinating attributes.
This is the video I have been waiting for my entire lifespan
2:08 Lol, Trip's face in the background.
I love how their behavior was depicted. Because they are more social than humans picking up food, taking a bite and passing the partially eaten food along was no big thing. Everything is shared.
Dear Rick sir, I thoroughly enjoy your star trek cultural index video series, as they are very interesting .
I liked Dr Pulaski from TNG as well.
Your content is fantastic.....it's criminal you don't have more subscribers.
Denobulans are my favourite, of the more mysterious species. I never picked up on the detail that their clothing is relatively plain because I always saw female Denobulan hairstyles as moderately ornate. Excellent research! Thank you for this episode :)
Warp ships has made it possible to return to their families often so going out into the galaxy wasn't as taboo as they suggested in ENT
I adore Phlox, he's my second favorite Trek character right behind Garak.
Very complete analysis: I have no questions this video didn’t answer about the species. Awesome job!!!
NGL the smile at first creeped me tfffff out like and it was 3am but nice guy though
They strike me as the Hobbits of the Star Trek universe
Very cool topic. Thank you for uploading!
Just a thank you for these great works!
We need them to appear in Picard and lower decks
I've been curious about Gamorrean society ever since I first saw them, so yeah, they get my vote this time.
Love the Star Trek species explanation 😍
I honestly think this is my favorite species in Star Trek. I wish humans were as deeply social as the Denobulans
… more Human than Human? 😎
Denobulans might be my favorite Star Trek species.
Their culture kind of reminds me of a social system I was involved in up home near NYC.
THE UNIVERSE NEEDS MORE DENOBULANS!
Malone plz, because Star trek, obviously :)
Denobulans also left behind a monetary system centuries ago because of their communal home systems. They reached a resource based economy WAY before Earth and was likely one of the reasons why Earth eventually developed into a Resource Based economy using energy credits for special occasions or to trade with other species with interspecies currency exchange, as well as buying more advanced and personalized items programs etc wants whereas families had all they needed to live without debt by the TNG era aka 24th century. STO is not in the 25th century so it's on the next tier of time with the Federation expanding after the last major war with the Tzenkethi.
The soundtrack you are using sounds familiar, its Crimson Gray , if i am not mistaken
Surprising we didn’t get more of them on Discovery. Would like to have seen more of them.
They are like super friendly Cardassians.
I love how you used STO to do the modelling. lol
Malone, time to talk about the Space Garbos.
I always thought Pholx reminded me of Needlix, although not as bad looking. They were at times over the top and very social. They had an element of physical comedy for both races.
interesting information
I know you ended up doing the Malon but it would be interesting now to see a cultural index on the Gamorrean.
Finally!
Excellent work, as always.
In terms of entertainment, I would have thought they would have a proclivity for in-person performance arts like concert, poetry recitation, or theatre, since such things can provide insight into the personalities of the writers, the performers, and the ones who have a preference for certain genres.
My character on STO is a Chief Medical Officer the highest rank you can get. ]
He is a Denobulan named Doctor Throx in honor of Dr. Phlox!
I have the ridges and mouth but I also have Denobulan pointed ears which is rare in their race.
Cultural Index ,You should do a cultural index for the Carmians, they are the flying humanoids from the popular books, Green Glory, The Adventures of Retro Rahnee and Green Glory, Heroes of Carmi.
both planned indexi would be excellent...would be curious as to the name and species encountered on Voyager episode Scientific Method and their rationale for the experimentation they did on the crew
They sound like they're just excited to find other sentient races in the galaxy. I'd imagine that some humans could relate to that. The thrill and excitement and relief of knowing that someone else is out there in the dead of space.
Dr. Phlox is up there with McCoy, Bashir, Crusher, and of course, Joe.
I vaguely recall somewhere in an episode of TOS or two, where somebody was insulting someone else by calling him a “Denubulan slime devil”. It may have been in Trouble With Tribbles or something Harry Mudd said. I always wondered if the ENT writers used that as a basis for the Denobulans but with different spelling and pronunciation. Perhaps Denobula has a particularly gross animal that is used as an insult when comparing someone to it.
I think that was a “Denebian slime devil”……like from Deneba…..
I vote for an episode on the Vidiians.
Yaaaaaaaaaay!
Can you do a video on the Breen?
Were they in the Soundgarden music video for Black Hole Sun?
Right off the bat, a male and female Denobulan.
Can I recommend doing an cultural index on the Taelons (Earth Final Conflict)
I always got more into Star Wars bur I still love Star Trek and these videos are great for helping me get back into it. I'll have to find TNG on dvd or bluray, so I can rewatch it.
Besides Original and TNG what are your guys favorite Trek series?
Deep space nine is my favourite after TNG. It's quite a bit darker than TNG but unlike discovery it still feels very Trek. The only downside is you really have to watch it in order because there's lots of series long arcs.
I think it does a great job of exploring sci-fi concepts while also offering an interesting over arching plot. Being set on a space station instead of a starship means the characters can't just fly away from problems they encounter so it's got some interesting plots that wouldn't work in other trek series.
Phlox is the best doctor of all series...not the bagged version of EHM of Voyager!!
I would like to see an index on humanity.
Anybody ever put out or thought about a Starfleet swimsuit calendar?
The denobulans seem to be a very unique and interesting species.
I always felt that they could have linked a common ancestry between Denobulans and Cardassians, considering there are some physical similarities between the two, similar(ish) to heritage of Vulcans and Romulans.
They're basically what humans are to volcans, to humans.
Because of how important the sciences seem to be in their society, it makes me wonder how a team of Denobulans physicians would have handled the Phage.
yes
Phlox, or as I think of him, Neelix mark II
Dr Phlox can be my doc any day. He is how a doctor really should be which is why star trek pointed out how they should be.
For some reason I believed that enterprise came between the end of the original series and the motion picture and believed that he was a Klingon because got it late and had not heard of any other series
please do the Gamoreans
Are you going to do one on the Benthans?
Their oversized smiles are unnerving as hell.
5:31 I have never been able to graspo their marital organization... Where does it end or even begin?
Gamoreans, please.
That thumbnail, even though it’s in the show, really scares me
The Denobulans have the ideal, highly communitarian, intensely compassionate, connected, and social society. It's just one warm, beautiful, growing metropolis.
It was. Until the Romulans attacked.
That smile is without doubt the freakiest thing in all of trek
8:45 Enterprise or Voyager? Currently on the last season of TNG, and I don't remember them in there. Watched Voyager, and obviously the doctor.
Enterprise
Can you please do the Breen confederacy from Star Trek Deep Space 9 that's if you can find enough to do an entire index on them since we probably know more about the denobulans then we do about the Breen.
Malon, please.
I recently binged watched enterprise and felt like they should have fleshed out Denoblia and other early contact species more, rather than the "species of the week" that they gave. That show needed a clearer direction with where the story was going.
I think the biggest thing Enterprise dropped the ball on was going into that 'Expanse' for al those seasons instead of making it all about exploring the Federation places that would be taken for granted by Kirk's time. (Probably the Xindi would be part of that, too, but why did they need to pretend Enterprise may as well be in another quadrant? They just had *done* that with Voyager.*
OllamhDrab there a a lot to be left desired with the xindi/tempera cold war arc.
Malon please!
Wasn't the Denobulon home planet taken over by Borg??
If they tended to never leave home that means they must have all died out, or atleast nearly all of them.
My new suggestion idea; Is to add the Denobulans, into the spinoff shows of, both (STAR TREK: DISCOVERY) show, and of (STAR TREK: PICARD) show series.
I would like to see descendants of Dr.Phlox, appear in a few of the spinoff shows, of (STAR TREK: DISCOVERY) show series.
I also would like to see a few Denobulans, appear in spinoff shows, of (STAR TREK: PICARD) show series.
lol that thumbnail!
Ah yes, the ‘why’ of the new Enterprise races. I mean, I like Phlox and the debobulans should have been a race in the Star Trek universe, but they couldn’t have gotten another species that was previously encountered in TOS for Phlox? Like a Tellarite? We know more about this species, Klingons, Vulcans, and the ‘enigmatic’ Borg, then we have do two whole species that founded the Federation. It’s a lack of information that borders on lore-abuse.
Well it's the tragedy of Enterprise. With the execs saying add time travel to make it futuristic we got sidetracked for most of the series from the meat and potatoes we wanted to see, if season 4 had been season 3 (and I respect the Xindi arc independently) then they might not have been able to cancel it when the network merger happened. But we did learn and see a lot of the Andorians, so only the Tellarites were really shortchanged overall. Three more seasons and the Earth Romulan War would've been plenty of time to get to know them....but alas.
If you look at the what the plan is for the series then not having Phlox be a Tellarite makes sense. The point of Enterprise was to go out into space and meet the other races that would found and shape the Federation. It loses the punch if we've already met the Tellarites and the Andorians.