Tom Paris is a Mary Sue who doesn't get the flack he deserves. If he was a woman he'd be destroyed. The guy was amazing at everything naturally. He was unearned Data.
I remember a story that they wanted to make it the same character but would've had to have payed the original writers of that TNG episode every time they used the character (which would've been every episode), so they decided to make him a different character
They could have had a whole thing with him being the same guy, but he applied to the academy under a different name to distance himself from his father. Or he's a con artist. Or anything.
Tom returned in the Lower Decks episode "We'll Always Have Tom Paris" where he remained in Starfleet and was promoted to full lieutenant. During a handshake tour in 2381, he visited the USS Cerritos where he told Voyager stories for morale and during the visit, he assaulted Ensign Bradward Boimler, who wished to get Paris' signature on his Voyager plate, when he thought Boimler was a Kazon. He later apologized by getting drinks with Boimler, who still hoped to get his signature.
Yup! But it was decided that Locarno had no redeeming qualities so they made him a different character but used the same actor cause confusing people is fun or something
@@stormerbuzz352 Star Trek has a history of using the same actors. Tuvok was in TNG as well. Gul Dukat was in TNG twice both as a Cardasion and a Romulan. Quark was in TNG as a different Ferengi. Liquidator Brunt is also another re-occuring character in DS9 as well as Enterprise. Polaski from TNG was also in the Original series. The list continues.
The real world reason he became "Tom Paris" instead of being the continuation of Lacarno is that the producers (I think it was Brandon Braga specifically) felt that Lacarno's attitude and actions left the character irredeemable.
Which would have been great. A character that tries to redeem himself, but never completely manages to do. But that would have been too brave a move for the VOY writers...
-Thank you for this well done insight to Lieutenant Paris's life in Star Trek, Like alway I look forward to one on Commander Chakotay and all First Officers THANKS
If they did, they would have had to pay royalties to the writers of that episode of TNG for every episode he was in, so they decided to make it a new character.
@@gabeweisdorfer6353 could have had him say on screen that he had a cousin that looked alot like him that made a similar mistake like he did, must be a family curse.
Something I always liked about Tom was he was really the frist person on Voyager to reach out to Seven of his own variation and with seemingly no alteriver motive and acpect her. Some might say that BS given Janeways actions in the gift. But Janeway always wanted to change seven to make her human her acceptance of sevens own natuer and choices always seemed at lest to me early on after a bit of auement or reasoning. Not that this is bad persay it was nessary. But id dare say Tom was Sevens frist friend. And while there reationship did have a bumb here and there it remained strong through out Voyager run. And when Tom was bing influenced by the Alice ship Seven was one of the people to be really alarmed by his actions and when he got body jacked by that alien. People cought on that something was wrong with him the moment he tryed hitting on Seven and was cruel to her.
absolutely and by all means and with the utmost and greatest of enthusiasm would i agree with such a Personnel File review due to his exceptional awesomeness
I always wondered if Tom Paris knew Nick Locarno because like Tom Locarno had a habit of getting into trouble like what happened in the Star Trek TNG episode 'The First Duty' where he convinced Cadet Wesley Crusher and 2 others to cover up an accident that he was responsible for that caused the death of another cadet that was a friend of Wesley's which Captain Jean-Luc Picard had discovered when he learned from Geordie La Forge and Lt. Commander Data that they were trying to perform a dangerous maneuver that led to the death of said cadet and Locarno's expulsion from the Academy and Wes and the other 2 being held back from graduating because they partook in the cover-up.
One of my personal favorite characters...and the only one to bonk Captain Janeway...he had to err, ummm....struggle snuggle but, he apparently succeeded, since they had a litter of...umm...things Oedipal allusions not withstanding.
I never got the “Federation Naval Patrol” thing. Why does this exist? Is there a lot of smuggling or something on Earth’s seas in the 24th century? In a future where there are sensors than can scan whole planets from orbit, plus other stuff like transporters, why do the oceans on any Federation planet need patrolling, presumably with sea based vessels? 10:58 that’s not Tom Paris ;-)
You left out the most important scene in the history of Tommyboi. The doctor slap man, the slap that will echo threw time and space, and make itself heard any time a pretty boy says something a bit dumb.
What is this "Threshold" that you speak of, I have never heard of it. I have also not heard of Ghostbusters 2016, or any Jurassic Park movie after The Lost World, or any Alien movie after Aliens.
I was about to say you had Tom's academy accident wrong but I rewatched that tng ep. and realized it was same actor as Tom Paris in Voyager but different char.
Ah yes, Tom Paris, and totally not Nicholas Locarno from TNG's "The First Duty". Yeah, totally not him. I bet Tom thought he was totally a handsome guy though and would have totally been a great Starfleet officer if he hadn't ALSO been thrown in prison for his crimes as a cadet. Totally.
I'm at the beginning of the video and listening to the family history. Except for a great-aunt mentioned it sounds like the women in his family didn't do crap when it comes to Starfleet. They just stayed home got knocked up and had babies.
2:04 It's pronounced Mar-say (the L's are silent) 😅 Great video though, I love how in depth you go to the characters across canon and non canon stuff. Really entertaining and informative.
He always seemed like an assistant manager at Target or Walmart to me. Don’t know if it was how the character was written but I think the role was miscast. But then I think a lot of the casting choices were off for me, to the point of being an annoying distraction.
You know what just realized. Tom was wearing a SF uniform when he joined on the origanal Voyger mission but was not a member of SF at the time. why was he allowed to be in uniform after he was discharged and branded a traitor?
Aren’t you forgetting about the alt future admiral Jane way came from where he’s a holonovelist? Or is it just not enough information to speculate on his life in that alternate timeline?
My only issue with his story is his rising to Admiral. Seems highly unlikely considering his painted past. Maybe Captain, he would have to work much harder than others to achieve the rank though.
Yep. That's one of the (many) things I hated about the JJ Abrams Startrek movies. James Kirk went directly from being a disgraced cadet facing expulsion, to captain of the newest federation starship. That had to piss off all the others officers who served for years trying to work their way up through the ranks.
In-Universe-Theorie: Mybe Tom and Nick are Twins and Tom is the younger brother from Nick and Tom want become a better version and nick Changed his name into Locarno that he dont want have anything todo with his starfleet - family anymore
he was a bit like a james dean type in the beginning it sucks his dad mistreated him he really evolved in the show loved his holodeck holo adventures of captain proton very flashgordon esq and howhim and torres got together.
The oigins of Paris was originally to be Wesley Crusher but Wheaton had enough of the character and negative backlash from fans and he rejected the series. Then when McNiel was cast, they wanted to add Nick Locarno whom he portrayed previously in TNG and was responsible for a fatality coverup in a cadet incident. But the character was owned by Naren Shankar do Tom Paris was created exclusively.
Tom "Locarno" Paris... The most interesting Character besides the Doctor and Seven of Nine in the overall weak Star Trek Voyager show Go Loca... uh i mean Tom! Warp 10 FULL SPEED!! 😂👍
Applied for Helmsman aboard the NCC 1701 D but was denied because of Admiral Paris. Ok now I take Toms side if it wasn't for Admiral Paris we wouldn't have had to put up with Westly on the bridge.
Wesley was on the bridge because Picard wanted him there. Tom Paris would not have been able to displace him as helmsman as long as he was still on the ship. What the captain wants, the captain gets.
it always bugged me how he was REALLY into goofy 20th century B-Movies and classic cars...it would be like me being REALLY into 1600s lifestyle, just out plowing fields and hunting witches
Very interesting to see that this Tom Paris is a Gary Sue type character. Has way to many flaws and made to many mistakes. This character is the exact opposite of Rey Skywalker before ep 9 fixed the issues. Gets arrested, destroys a family members shuttle at sixteen, and gets several cadets killed. Tom should have been kicked out of Starfleet permanently. Sad to see that this is a one denominational character. I'm surprised to see that he is a Gary Sue instead of a Mary Sue.
What is on screen is canon. A novel is not canon. The shuttle accident happened after he graduated from Starfleet Academy and it didn’t involve cadets. Paris was kicked out of Starfleet and was in a Federation prison when Janeway got him temporarily released to help Voyager navigate through the Badlands so that she could find Tuvok and the missing Maquis ship.
TP: "From now on I promise no more affairs with strange ships"
BLT: "What about the Delta Flyer?"
TP: "We're just friends."
Good
Bacon Lettuce Tomato is my favourite Voyager character
@@squabbbb Remember how that old friend from the Equinox actually gave her that nickname?
the story of Tom Paris the PERFECT example of "NEVER in my wildest imagination, did my life turn out like i expected or planned"
Tom Paris is a Mary Sue who doesn't get the flack he deserves. If he was a woman he'd be destroyed. The guy was amazing at everything naturally. He was unearned Data.
"Gotta go fast!"
(Warp 10)
"Whoa! Too fast!"
I imagine Tom being on Voyager was a good personal growth experience for him.
100%
Nobody talk about his identical twin or you’ll have to pay royalties.
What twin? No one mentioned Nicholas Locarno. See, no one said anything about him.
They really should have just made it the same character. It would have fit is story arc.
Finish the Fight I honestly thought they were the same character, for the entire run of voyager I thought that’s why he was in the penal colony
I remember a story that they wanted to make it the same character but would've had to have payed the original writers of that TNG episode every time they used the character (which would've been every episode), so they decided to make him a different character
They could have had a whole thing with him being the same guy, but he applied to the academy under a different name to distance himself from his father. Or he's a con artist. Or anything.
"The only thing I remember is someone standing over me saying 'This is my friend and no one touches him but me!'". -Harry Kim (Paraphrased)
Tom returned in the Lower Decks episode "We'll Always Have Tom Paris" where he remained in Starfleet and was promoted to full lieutenant. During a handshake tour in 2381, he visited the USS Cerritos where he told Voyager stories for morale and during the visit, he assaulted Ensign Bradward Boimler, who wished to get Paris' signature on his Voyager plate, when he thought Boimler was a Kazon. He later apologized by getting drinks with Boimler, who still hoped to get his signature.
He was my favorite character in Voyager.
He was alright. Tuvok was probably my favorite. However I couldn't stand Neelix.
@@jacksonheathen2092 neelks was a ass
@@davidmoncholi6746 Yes. Neelix was an asshole. I couldn't stand him.
Same, he was the most complex character.
Tom was originally supposed be a continuation of the character Locarno from TNG
CBS/Paramount would find a way to retcon Paris/Locarno
Easy, he changed his name to get away from his father simple as that!
As he should have been.
Yup! But it was decided that Locarno had no redeeming qualities so they made him a different character but used the same actor cause confusing people is fun or something
@@stormerbuzz352 Star Trek has a history of using the same actors. Tuvok was in TNG as well. Gul Dukat was in TNG twice both as a Cardasion and a Romulan. Quark was in TNG as a different Ferengi. Liquidator Brunt is also another re-occuring character in DS9 as well as Enterprise. Polaski from TNG was also in the Original series. The list continues.
Tom Paris, current whereabouts: Classified, but rumored to be writing and directing under the alias Robert Duncan McNeil. 😎😁😏😉
The real world reason he became "Tom Paris" instead of being the continuation of Lacarno is that the producers (I think it was Brandon Braga specifically) felt that Lacarno's attitude and actions left the character irredeemable.
Which would have been great. A character that tries to redeem himself, but never completely manages to do. But that would have been too brave a move for the VOY writers...
@@RimaNari Locarno would never have tried to redeem himself. Because he doesn’t feel guilty for what he did. He’s a sociopathic a-hole.
Uh no the real reason was money, pure and simple.
-Thank you for this well done insight to Lieutenant Paris's life in Star Trek, Like alway I look forward to one on Commander Chakotay and all First Officers THANKS
Me: Waiting for the "Threshold" jokes
Not disappointed.
Pity they didn't make him the same character from Weesly's Academy the flight squadron would had been perfect and would explain why he went to jail
I think the writers had forgotten about Nick Locarno.
If they did, they would have had to pay royalties to the writers of that episode of TNG for every episode he was in, so they decided to make it a new character.
@@gabeweisdorfer6353 could have had him say on screen that he had a cousin that looked alot like him that made a similar mistake like he did, must be a family curse.
They intended to. The similarities were too numerous to be coincidental.
@@panther196321 no they didn't. they didn't want to pay royalties for the character from what I understand
Can we get a video on Chakotay, please?
Definitely one of the better VOY characters(easily 3rd best after Doc and 7). Even if he practically is just renamed Locarno. :)
That's sad. To me there are only two worthwhile characters on voyager. Just a wasted opportunity.
@@unc0mm0n2 And those two are?
Tom is actually my favorite Voyager character.
Awesome!! Thank you for that. So much detail and more character info!!
Imagine an alternate timeline where instead of Geordi as a helmsman at the beginning of TNG it was Tom
I'm watching that one episode of tng where that one friend of whesley looks like Tom Parris
Because that was the actor's first Trek appearence...
@@TymersRealm i'm just saying that this was a coincidence
@@SpaceDave1337 Yes they are both under the colletive mind of Mary Sue.
TymersRealm /wooooosh
How bout Starship Mine where Tuvok tries to steal the Enterprise D?
Something I always liked about Tom was he was really the frist person on Voyager to reach out to Seven of his own variation and with seemingly no alteriver motive and acpect her. Some might say that BS given Janeways actions in the gift. But Janeway always wanted to change seven to make her human her acceptance of sevens own natuer and choices always seemed at lest to me early on after a bit of auement or reasoning. Not that this is bad persay it was nessary. But id dare say Tom was Sevens frist friend. And while there reationship did have a bumb here and there it remained strong through out Voyager run. And when Tom was bing influenced by the Alice ship Seven was one of the people to be really alarmed by his actions and when he got body jacked by that alien. People cought on that something was wrong with him the moment he tryed hitting on Seven and was cruel to her.
First I saw this actor was in He Man. Lol. Then that STNG episode where the one cadet dies.
How "Thershold" should have ended Tom Pairs wakes up from a nightmare, the end.
I imagine how awkward Tom Paris' academy years were with Nic Locarno around.
The glorious Rocking
and Rolling Captain
Proton !
"Totally not Locarno." I see you. :)
For the next Personnel File, I would recommend Reginald Barcley.
absolutely and by all means and with the utmost and greatest of enthusiasm would i agree with such a Personnel File review due to his exceptional awesomeness
Thumbs up for that. The one flawed character in a crew full of Khan like superhumans.
Barcley is the Star Trek version of Neville Longbottom from Harry Potter.
Brilliance, concealed by personal challenges.
Do Gowron, leader of the Klingon high council!
Love these videos.
Any possiblity of doing some videos on the Orville? Have been binge watching over the past week and think there's a lot of potential for that series
I'M DYING! : "Totally NOT "Locarno"
Listening the rock n' roll music makes think of Guy Fieri pulling up for Diners, Drive-Ins, N' Dive.
I was always either very annoyed or amused by Tom, he had the attitude of an ungrateful spoiled rich kid
Agreed. But he was still way better than that spoiled little brat Wesley Crusher.
Um wow... The 2381 Borg Invasion through Azure Nebula is a crazy story line. Not sure what to think of it...
I always wondered if Tom Paris knew Nick Locarno because like Tom Locarno had a habit of getting into trouble like what happened in the Star Trek TNG episode 'The First Duty' where he convinced Cadet Wesley Crusher and 2 others to cover up an accident that he was responsible for that caused the death of another cadet that was a friend of Wesley's which Captain Jean-Luc Picard had discovered when he learned from Geordie La Forge and Lt. Commander Data that they were trying to perform a dangerous maneuver that led to the death of said cadet and Locarno's expulsion from the Academy and Wes and the other 2 being held back from graduating because they partook in the cover-up.
One of my personal favorite characters...and the only one to bonk Captain Janeway...he had to err, ummm....struggle snuggle but, he apparently succeeded, since they had a litter of...umm...things Oedipal allusions not withstanding.
Tom found his way to Paris.
You forgot the time he helped He-Man defeat Skeletor in 1987
You forgot about that time he tracked a mouse through jeffries tube 32.
I never understood the whole admirals don't command ships thing. That's never how it's worked IRL.
I never got the “Federation Naval Patrol” thing. Why does this exist? Is there a lot of smuggling or something on Earth’s seas in the 24th century? In a future where there are sensors than can scan whole planets from orbit, plus other stuff like transporters, why do the oceans on any Federation planet need patrolling, presumably with sea based vessels?
10:58 that’s not Tom Paris ;-)
Kirk said the sensors on the TOS enterprise were sensitive enough to detect a lit match from orbit
I have it as head canon that Paris and Locarno were the same person. He changed his name to distance himself from his father.
Um tipo de Flash Gordon Trekker.
"Totally Not Lacarno". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice use of rockabilly music in the outro
What about B'Elanna Torres chakotay and Egypt in the kids
Could you do Bones?
Oh yea...
That Delta Quadrant mission is coming up, isn't it...
Gawd is it a PitA...
You left out the most important scene in the history of Tommyboi.
The doctor slap man, the slap that will echo threw time and space, and make itself heard any time a pretty boy says something a bit dumb.
Lieutenant Paris, we are not building a hot rod..
Oh mate good work 👍🏽
They should do a video about Project Full Circle.
Good abrupt goodbye at the end there
What is this "Threshold" that you speak of, I have never heard of it. I have also not heard of Ghostbusters 2016, or any Jurassic Park movie after The Lost World, or any Alien movie after Aliens.
I was about to say you had Tom's academy accident wrong but I rewatched that tng ep. and realized it was same actor as Tom Paris in Voyager but different char.
1:00 don’t forget Commadore Paris
Ah yes, Tom Paris, and totally not Nicholas Locarno from TNG's "The First Duty". Yeah, totally not him. I bet Tom thought he was totally a handsome guy though and would have totally been a great Starfleet officer if he hadn't ALSO been thrown in prison for his crimes as a cadet. Totally.
It's a shame they couldn't work in his Red Squad character because they didn't want to pay the writer of that episode.
can you cover the ships of full circle?
Um... That is NOT a Oldsmobile, That is a 1969 Chevy Camaro! HUGE DIFFERENCE. Shame!
I'm at the beginning of the video and listening to the family history. Except for a great-aunt mentioned it sounds like the women in his family didn't do crap when it comes to Starfleet. They just stayed home got knocked up and had babies.
How about a Personnel File on William Riker?
Was Patricia the commodore in Beyond?
So basically Captain Janeway got really lucky the Mocke had some competent space skills.
2:04 It's pronounced Mar-say (the L's are silent) 😅 Great video though, I love how in depth you go to the characters across canon and non canon stuff. Really entertaining and informative.
I would love to see bios on kang koloth and kor
Love they said he could have gone to the navy over going to space haha
He always seemed like an assistant manager at Target or Walmart to me. Don’t know if it was how the character was written but I think the role was miscast. But then I think a lot of the casting choices were off for me, to the point of being an annoying distraction.
Shyamalan twist: he's an assistant manager for both on his off time.
freeze1 Or he had been hit by a runaway cart train and it was all a dream.
I guess him appaearing in LD as a Leutenant in 2381 is beta canon breaking
You know what just realized. Tom was wearing a SF uniform when he joined on the origanal Voyger mission but was not a member of SF at the time. why was he allowed to be in uniform after he was discharged and branded a traitor?
Aren’t you forgetting about the alt future admiral Jane way came from where he’s a holonovelist? Or is it just not enough information to speculate on his life in that alternate timeline?
Tuvok lead a mission as an admiral.
i need the song names
Tom Paris was originally meant to be that Red Squad character he played on TNG before
Nick Locarno.
My only issue with his story is his rising to Admiral. Seems highly unlikely considering his painted past. Maybe Captain, he would have to work much harder than others to achieve the rank though.
Yep. That's one of the (many) things I hated about the JJ Abrams Startrek movies.
James Kirk went directly from being a disgraced cadet facing expulsion, to captain of the newest federation starship.
That had to piss off all the others officers who served for years trying to work their way up through the ranks.
Honestly I prefer the version where the accidents happened when he was Ensign, it differentiates him from Nick Locarno
Do Riker next or The Doctor
Tom and B' ellona were one of the hottest loves in star trek
In-Universe-Theorie: Mybe Tom and Nick are Twins and Tom is the younger brother from Nick and Tom want become a better version and nick Changed his name into Locarno that he dont want have anything todo with his starfleet - family anymore
Voyager is a good series. It's a pity it came out at the onset trekkie burnout.
he was a bit like a james dean type in the beginning it sucks his dad mistreated him he really evolved in the show loved his holodeck holo adventures of captain proton very flashgordon esq and howhim and torres got together.
Honestly Tom Paris is one of my favourite treck characters, him and Harry Kim were always a highlight.
Weird. I thought starfleet academy was a 4 year education, not 2.
"I am Borg"
You mean we could have had Tom Paris on the bridge instead of Wesley?
Thanks Admiral!
You would have had both. It’s Picard’s ship and he decides who is on his bridge. No way Wesley loses his position as helmsman with Picard as captain.
He should be a captain of a ship bye now.
Is it just me or does this guy sound kinda like piers Morgan. Thoughts?
The oigins of Paris was originally to be Wesley Crusher but Wheaton had enough of the character and negative backlash from fans and he rejected the series. Then when McNiel was cast, they wanted to add Nick Locarno whom he portrayed previously in TNG and was responsible for a fatality coverup in a cadet incident. But the character was owned by Naren Shankar do Tom Paris was created exclusively.
Uh, no.
@@thomashong2938 duh, really???
That's not an Oldsmobile. Lol
It always baffled me why they renamed the character from the STNG episode with Crusher.
Best couple
Tom "Locarno" Paris... The most interesting Character besides the Doctor and Seven of Nine in the overall weak Star Trek Voyager show
Go Loca... uh i mean Tom! Warp 10 FULL SPEED!! 😂👍
JAG - the Panzer - GEMINI voyager was a great show
@@theAverageJoe25 No it was not
Half the comments are about Locarno? Lol come on. Really?
Wasn't he was originally supposed to be the same test pilot character introduced in the TNG series?
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Applied for Helmsman aboard the NCC 1701 D but was denied because of Admiral Paris. Ok now I take Toms side if it wasn't for Admiral Paris we wouldn't have had to put up with Westly on the bridge.
Wesley was on the bridge because Picard wanted him there. Tom Paris would not have been able to displace him as helmsman as long as he was still on the ship. What the captain wants, the captain gets.
Bought time 🤘🤪🤘
it always bugged me how he was REALLY into goofy 20th century B-Movies and classic cars...it would be like me being REALLY into 1600s lifestyle, just out plowing fields and hunting witches
Totally Not Locarno is a great character.
Very interesting to see that this Tom Paris is a Gary Sue type character. Has way to many flaws and made to many mistakes. This character is the exact opposite of Rey Skywalker before ep 9 fixed the issues. Gets arrested, destroys a family members shuttle at sixteen, and gets several cadets killed. Tom should have been kicked out of Starfleet permanently. Sad to see that this is a one denominational character. I'm surprised to see that he is a Gary Sue instead of a Mary Sue.
What is on screen is canon. A novel is not canon. The shuttle accident happened after he graduated from Starfleet Academy and it didn’t involve cadets. Paris was kicked out of Starfleet and was in a Federation prison when Janeway got him temporarily released to help Voyager navigate through the Badlands so that she could find Tuvok and the missing Maquis ship.
Of all the Voyager characters I cared nothing about, Paris was one of them.
Yes the mechanics from enterprise is way cooler than Paris.
Marc-Andre Otis especially Ensign Macfarlane who didn’t seem to get anything right.