Well, I was not expecting an addendum to your incredible Bumblebee video, much less that I of all people would be a key reason why it happened. I’m happy to be part of the RWBY Packing Alliance, and grateful for the shoutout
TBF caring about the consequences of their actions isn't really team RWBY's thing. These are the same women who sat around, talked for good long bit of time, and drank tea while Atlas was being burnt to the ground.
That scene would've worked whole lot better if they were doing it while reflecting on their mistakes and try to figure out what to do next. That was a perfectly good opportunity to do it. Am I the only one who thinks that? I mean to be fair, they were currently fugitives of Atlas' Law and Nora was injured. Plus, they can't go out guns blazin' without a plan. They'd be arrested even if they were there to help out. Hell, even trying to call a doctor for Nora would've been risky because the doctor could rat them. Or worse, their call would be traced.
I still say that the Weiss x Blake ship would've been more interesting and actually could've worked better than forcing Bumblebee. But that aside, it is just baffling how much Team RWBY has fucked over Remnant and it's not treated like a big deal. It is an understatement to say these idiots fucked up royally. Cinder's attack my have destroyed most of Beacon, but Team RWBY caused Atlas and Mantle to be destroyed and are responsible for the many deaths since it was their idea to make doorways to a random spot in Vacuo (during a sandstorm where the people are picked off one by one by Grimm).
Another critique is that it makes more sense if Weiss was the one that was attacked by Adam, given that Weiss was the one that was racist and trying to understand Blake on a personal level, it could have led to her trying to fight Adam but in the process Adam cuts hers throat but due to semblances and aura she survives but can never sing again, "you know remember that weiss' whole shtick was that she used to sing to comfort for herself".
0:52-0:57 Heavily agree and he even pointed out things I didn’t notice. 3:27-3:32 I mean this is the same volume where Ruby un-alived herself and WBY&J just got over it. 3:50-4:00 It renders her confronting her hallucination in chapter four pointless. PS: I'm glad you like his content and you giving him a shout out is nice.
And that another thing, is that the show makes it so vague about the concept of ascension, that it almost feels like they are trying to influence the audience that it was the right thing to do, whether they want to admit it or not, ruby drank that tea cause she didnt want to exist anymore.
@@thomasraines1396 Can't have things like muscles getting in the way of of our anime schoolgirls preforming impossible feats of strength. Using anything other than the default female character model would require too much effort.
Excuse me, WHAT? 20 SECONDS? 20 seconds to discuss the fate of the world they had left behind? I remembered you mentioned that team RWBY barely discussed it, but I never guessed it was THAT short. Then again, I shouldn't have been surprised by CRWBY's track record. I've probably brought this up before, but this IS sounding more and more like SW. Characters ain't speaking crap about the important things, no focus on the impact on the characters, lack of build up, etc.--all to focus on some BS romance. Only in SW, it's between a mass murderer and his simp (and if you're thinking "do you mean prequels or sequels?", then then answer is "yes").
I honestly thought they were already a couple by the time they arrived in Atlas. But yeah, why is their inability to be honest about their feelings the only thing the Ponderstorm cares about?
@@thomasraines1396 "Instead of showing their feelings grow through interactions over time, lets jump straight to a life or death confession that has NOTHING to do with the rest of the episode. Because that's how girls work, right?"
You know this makes me think that Salem deserves to win, especially considering how Team RWBY just does not seem to care much about saving Remnant (why did they dedicate TWENTY SECONDS to discussing the ramifications of the plan). If Salem loses, it's going to be by her own hand or by deus ex machina.
@@michaeldorsey9231the world should look like the aftermath of a Flood Spore from Halo or a Necromorph outbreak from Dead Space. There would be no “fighting back” no heroic stand, Salem would’ve won already.
"I like that you have never been intimidated by me." Who in the series has? Legitimately who in the series was too intimidated by Yang to not approach her, confide in her or withhold affection/attention? They act like Yang is too Girlboss for men/women to approach her when that was not the case, hell even JR, a man whos nuts Yang personally grabbed and twisted on was less intimidated by her return and more annoyed to see her. thats the only guy who showed any advances towards her which she provoked out of him in the first place. There is no plotline they are referring to, its empty words to make Blake's guilt more impressive than the actual cowardice that it was. That's bumblebee to me, a whole lot of nothing propped up as something that eats away at everything around it. They could have done it right, and I will say right because what they did was not right by any reasonable standard. Have Blake reuniting with team Rwby and Yang proper way back in volume 5 be INTENTIONAL, something Blake actively strove for due to again, her guilt. Have her returning to their ranks be something she initiated and desired instead of what Sun and her family pushed on her. Keep the first half of what they did in volume 6 there, where Blake is embarrassingly overcompensating out of guilt for Yangs injury, have Yang get upset like she did that she is being looked down on and treated as a lesser. And there's the important part...HAVE THEM TALK THROUGH THAT. Don't ignore it for half a volume to then have them not talk into a relationship where everything is fixed because the guy they both hate is there, have them address their distance, their emotions and their viewpoints on why they feel the way that they do. Don't have that BE the romance however, have them reconnecting be the foundation from where a romance could find some purchase. Also don't have Blake and Yang betray team Rwby and Ironwood for a literal terrorist stranger in volume 7 for zero reason. You CAN still have them have date nights over the political happening in volume 7, like going dancing when they should be keeping an eye out for the, you know, active MURDEROR, but have that be a plot point, a real one. One where they address that in trying to reconnect and explore their friendship and growing feelings that they opened up weakness where others could be hurt via their inactions, basically mirroring what happened with Nora and Ren. Where Blake and Yang have to come to terms with the fact that being Huntresses, being teammates and being friends if not more than friends has their times and their places and that the threat of the Grimm and Salem doesn't allow them the lives they would rather enjoy, so you have them bitterly swallow their feelings for the greater good of Remnant. THEN when everything is going to shit when Salems forces are killing everyone and they have already been risking life and limb to protect and save as many people as possible and NOT complaining about doing their jobs and sitting in a house doing nothing for half a volume drinking tea do you then have them in a moment of genuine emotion confess on the battlefield with the fear of imminent death that their feelings for one another are important, that they need to be said in the face of death to defy it so that they can strive to live. No plot device dropping from the literal sky to force them together via awkward and empty compliments, no you do it where they realize that while they have a duty to defend Remnant and its people, and that they need to make personal sacrifices to do so, swallowing their feelings cant be one of them if they want to live despite everything. That is doing it with standards, if a bit cliche, its still better than the muddy literal feces the crwby gaslite their drones into thinking was "planned from the start".
I really like that. Hell them going clubbing in Volume 7 was not only really stupid with all that was going on (essentially preparing for war, an unknown serial killer on the loose) but one has to wonder how the club was able to function with the dust embargo which was super mega hard on everyone (allegedly). Them talking to Robyn was not only dumb but what makes it even worse is they not only let her run away (even after she claims she won’t stop “until I know the whole truth”) they’re not remorseful either, they just double down and claim “Robyn’s on our side! She always has been!” Also Adam had no reason to be in Volume 6, he was only there (by and large anyway) because Blake stupidly let him run away from Haven.
@@thomasraines1396 Yeah that's been my biggest problem with volume 7, the bumblebee bits and everything to do with Robyn with Blake and Yang actively hurt the series, it makes them look HORRIBLE. Them ducking out of their responsibilities should have been a plot line like it was Ren grieving over the innocents killed due to him being distracted by Nora, like I mentioned it should have been a mirroring intentional plot line instead of something that happened and was never acknowledged because it would make them look bad...er worst. I'm sure the writers caught that when they wrote it but decided NOT to capitalize on it. Instead they betray everyone because Woman and women right over man, because iron man bad because iron man is man.
@@Kushrada and then Yang gets on Ren’s case in Volume 8 and even tries to talk about their (supposed) accomplishments which not only didn’t happen because of them (they had massive help in everything) but one of the things she mentions (stopping the Leviathan) only needed to happen because they were stupid.
@@thomasraines1396 Yup, they even CAUSED the Leviathan attack to begin with, they DIDNT kill it, Cordovin did. Silver eyes failed, their attacks against the grimm failed. The Anti-Kaiju mech took out the kaiju it was designed for despite them crippling it in their arrogance and stupidity. And yet that's her argument against Ren, to cowl him into submission when he calls them all out on their collective failures, she responds being proud of her failure and sees it as anything but. Volume 7 and 8 have collectively some of the worst writing in the series compounded as pros for our "heroes". It is baffling the level of narrative gaslighting the writers do, that's not mentioning Penny being gaslit by Ruby into pulling a Ruby two volumes early and killing herself due to all the guilt Ruby wracked her with. Personally I would have fixed the whole Penny thing by having her leave the combat zone(Atlas). That her safety would have been priority at it denied Salem what she wanted. But the writers needed to give Salem a win so dead Penny we get even though it was a disgusting waste of time and cheap emotional whipping on the fans for shock value. Shock value they already did once already. I don't know crwby, this horse doesn't look dead enough yet, why don't who keep beating it with that stick just in case?
@@Kushrada exactly they’re utterly delusional. Hell if this was leading to something interesting like the ending of Spec Ops: The Line I would applaud them but they have the characters say and do all these things without a shred of self awareness. Penny’s death was stupid and it sucks that Ren gets crapped on by the story and is made to look like the bad guy.
Your daily reminder that they killed off any interest people had in Blake when she was in her homeland as well as killed the good writing development they had for her and Sun during that Volume....for obsessive fan pandering.
they also kind gave adams role to illya, they spent volume 5 having adam take the crown, and literally on their first mission as leader, he gets ex communicated and is seen as a traitor and then dissapears for most of volume 6 and magically appears where blake was to kill her and then dies.....WHAT THE F, roosterteeth
@@ethansolorzano5989 You'd think if he was gonna die, they would've save that for hmm I dunno, Weiss's development given his connection to the Schnee company?!
Incidentally, the thing that Ironwood was angriest about in his big relapse near Volume 7's end? The fact that Blake and Yang let Robyn know about the Amity project. Granted, it was still to help Ironwood (which it ultimately did), but they still did this behind everyone else's backs - _their own teammates_ included. So Yang's talk at the start of Volume 8 about things not working out by following Ruby's lead? Yeah, while Ruby was primarily following Ironwood's orders (say what you will about her withholding the same knowledge from Ironwood that Ozpin withheld from him for far longer), Yang and Blake were doing something that Ruby wasn't even made aware of beforehand. Blake, I can probably ease up on (a tiny bit) in this regard since she decided to work directly with Ruby in Volume 8 for the sake of all of Remnant, but Yang...godd___it, Yang. ...Though of course, what actually caused this relapse was Cinder's bluff (which no one saw coming, as she and Neo were both under the radar for a long time). Ironwood was able to keep himself together from finally hearing that withheld info on Salem's immortality, especially long enough to fight and subdue Watts. It was only when he saw that glass queen, a taunting emblem of his big failure in Beacon and the one who orchestrated it, that he broke. Buuuuut I guess people are scared to credit Cinder for anything.
I’d recommend checking out the webcomic “I’m The Grim Reaper” a lot of the exact things you criticized RWBY for it does spectacularly and I can’t recommend it enough.
I still think it would have been much better if Team RWBY had a sisterhood like relationship between all 4 of them. Blake the only child who is a run away finding strength and comfort, Weiss from the broken family learning wat normal siblings tend to act as and finding her true family, then you have Ruby and Yang the half sisters that can help and bring the other two in to a the sisterhood they already have. this whole chose to pander by pushing a romantic relationship and lets be honest it really is a pandering, though CRWBY isn't fully to blame for it since the very toxic side of the fans and shipping really didn't help. Well that's my two cents.
I disagree. You can still have a sisterhood like friendship between the main four while not taking it literally and have two of the become a couple. Either option on a writing level have equal value. Whether or not it is pandering is something no one can really answer (regardless of how satisfying it may be for some).
its not so much im against blake and yang being together, but i dont believe for a second this shit was planned from the beginning, this clearly a classic case of pandering to a specific audience, and retconning things to make it look like yang and blake were going to end up together. which makes no sense cause in the first episode yang is very obv attracted to guys, and they spent 5 volumes with blake and sun. So either they are trying to gaslight us, or they failed to actually give them progression on how they got there.
i dropped this series a while back. good to see i made the right decision. bumblebee was such a forced thing because of the fans that i just can't get behind it. almost as bad as Legend of kora.
@@aprilpearson6923 then they should have left it out altogether. sneaking it in at the end like that didn't do the show any favors. and it makes it look like they intentionally wrote Mako as some poor bf just so they could make both the girls he dated bisexual and smash them together.
@@aprilpearson6923 wasn't owl house dropped and she ra isn't that popular. they can claim all the credit they want but disney is suffering from what might be called "representation overload". they force things into the shows to check all the boxes without actually making the show any good. their losing out to Godzilla.
@@aprilpearson6923 at least with legend of korra in the books they actually tackle more on their relationship, we barely had interactions with the two, blake dissapears never even mentioning her team only that she ran away over guilt and then next volume theyre giving each other the f me eyes. Like what?
Disagree. Heavily. Regardless of what we think Monty's intentions were, we at the very least know that he was open to BB being a thing. Not to mention if it was written well, it wouldn't have been a mistake
@@KaiserShounen I belive that he wanted sisterhood between Team RWBY. But we could argue over that forever. Because we trully not know, what Monty actually have planned. Sidenote: The major video about the confession scene is still at 157k views, while Ruby finding herself is at 1,1M views. Ouch...
@@KritoSkywaker I think the best anyone will get when it comes to Monty's plan or vision is the interviews and wherever else he may have talked about RWBY. Though ten years of back and forth, and poor citation/archiving, has probably caused some of the interviews and information to be lost. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the sources have become lost media even, and people are trying to search for them. On the sidenote, I think the reason the video with Ruby discovering herself is higher in views is because it has a hashtag, and it also has comments turned on. Both of which the Bumblebee confession video, that I think your referring to, doesn't have. So that may just be TH-cam's algorithm at work. Since the Bumblebee video doesn't have comments on, it probably would not have gotten that much promotion within the algorithm early on, which basically kills momentum on videos views and likes. Though it has gotten over 100k views, which is impressive to say the least
@@Number1Rival Impressive on it's on ways. But I talked about the BB Confession Scene video uploaded by SonicProductions 2.0 The one with Zee has the comments disabled, because I presume, that TONS of comments were arguing over BB and the uploader couldn't handle the pressure.
@@KritoSkywaker Ah, my mistake. But it still may be the TH-cam algorithm playing favorites due to programming to some extent. However, that's just my best guess. However, both the Bumblebee and "Ruby finds herself" videos do show how much people care about these characters, and how much potential they have. It's just a shame that a lot of the payoffs in RWBY are weakened by mishandling of the build up to the payoff, and in some cases the payoff not fully paying off.
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Well, I was not expecting an addendum to your incredible Bumblebee video, much less that I of all people would be a key reason why it happened. I’m happy to be part of the RWBY Packing Alliance, and grateful for the shoutout
no problem, man. hope to see what you got planned next
TBF caring about the consequences of their actions isn't really team RWBY's thing. These are the same women who sat around, talked for good long bit of time, and drank tea while Atlas was being burnt to the ground.
Holy shit you ain't wrong
That scene would've worked whole lot better if they were doing it while reflecting on their mistakes and try to figure out what to do next. That was a perfectly good opportunity to do it. Am I the only one who thinks that?
I mean to be fair, they were currently fugitives of Atlas' Law and Nora was injured. Plus, they can't go out guns blazin' without a plan. They'd be arrested even if they were there to help out. Hell, even trying to call a doctor for Nora would've been risky because the doctor could rat them. Or worse, their call would be traced.
I still say that the Weiss x Blake ship would've been more interesting and actually could've worked better than forcing Bumblebee.
But that aside, it is just baffling how much Team RWBY has fucked over Remnant and it's not treated like a big deal. It is an understatement to say these idiots fucked up royally. Cinder's attack my have destroyed most of Beacon, but Team RWBY caused Atlas and Mantle to be destroyed and are responsible for the many deaths since it was their idea to make doorways to a random spot in Vacuo (during a sandstorm where the people are picked off one by one by Grimm).
They’re delusional.
Many people would want them to be punished for that f*ckup. But nope...the writers written them as always in the morally correct standing.
Another critique is that it makes more sense if Weiss was the one that was attacked by Adam, given that Weiss was the one that was racist and trying to understand Blake on a personal level, it could have led to her trying to fight Adam but in the process Adam cuts hers throat but due to semblances and aura she survives but can never sing again, "you know remember that weiss' whole shtick was that she used to sing to comfort for herself".
0:52-0:57 Heavily agree and he even pointed out things I didn’t notice.
3:27-3:32 I mean this is the same volume where Ruby un-alived herself and WBY&J just got over it.
3:50-4:00 It renders her confronting her hallucination in chapter four pointless.
PS: I'm glad you like his content and you giving him a shout out is nice.
And that another thing, is that the show makes it so vague about the concept of ascension, that it almost feels like they are trying to influence the audience that it was the right thing to do, whether they want to admit it or not, ruby drank that tea cause she didnt want to exist anymore.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who pointed this out.
Yang: I've liked, that you've never been intimidated by me...
Me: *AAAAAAAAAAAAA...THAT WAS BS!*
Its true, but that doesn't make Blake special.
@@brainflash1it doesn’t no, literally no one is intimidated by Yang.
@@thomasraines1396 Except Junior :P
But it would've been interesting if people had been.
@@brainflash1 it would’ve been yes but Yang’s whole schtick is that she’s the “bimbo” no one suspects her until she starts kicking ass.
@@thomasraines1396 Can't have things like muscles getting in the way of of our anime schoolgirls preforming impossible feats of strength. Using anything other than the default female character model would require too much effort.
This didn't even occur to me in regards to the confession and I already hated it enough lol
Excuse me, WHAT? 20 SECONDS? 20 seconds to discuss the fate of the world they had left behind? I remembered you mentioned that team RWBY barely discussed it, but I never guessed it was THAT short. Then again, I shouldn't have been surprised by CRWBY's track record.
I've probably brought this up before, but this IS sounding more and more like SW. Characters ain't speaking crap about the important things, no focus on the impact on the characters, lack of build up, etc.--all to focus on some BS romance. Only in SW, it's between a mass murderer and his simp (and if you're thinking "do you mean prequels or sequels?", then then answer is "yes").
I honestly thought they were already a couple by the time they arrived in Atlas. But yeah, why is their inability to be honest about their feelings the only thing the Ponderstorm cares about?
Ryan George: “That’s what we’re going with!”
@@thomasraines1396 "Instead of showing their feelings grow through interactions over time, lets jump straight to a life or death confession that has NOTHING to do with the rest of the episode. Because that's how girls work, right?"
@@brainflash1 “that is how story telling works right? Right?”
You know this makes me think that Salem deserves to win, especially considering how Team RWBY just does not seem to care much about saving Remnant (why did they dedicate TWENTY SECONDS to discussing the ramifications of the plan). If Salem loses, it's going to be by her own hand or by deus ex machina.
Because the "writers" are terrible.
Salem had thousands of years leading up to the current story, I’m honestly surprised she hasn’t overrun the world yet.
@@michaeldorsey9231 your comment made me realize just how badly executed the whole Grimm vs. Humanity conflict is
@@michaeldorsey9231the world should look like the aftermath of a Flood Spore from Halo or a Necromorph outbreak from Dead Space. There would be no “fighting back” no heroic stand, Salem would’ve won already.
Halo Reach offer a clear example… Exhibit A… RWBY…
"I like that you have never been intimidated by me." Who in the series has? Legitimately who in the series was too intimidated by Yang to not approach her, confide in her or withhold affection/attention? They act like Yang is too Girlboss for men/women to approach her when that was not the case, hell even JR, a man whos nuts Yang personally grabbed and twisted on was less intimidated by her return and more annoyed to see her. thats the only guy who showed any advances towards her which she provoked out of him in the first place. There is no plotline they are referring to, its empty words to make Blake's guilt more impressive than the actual cowardice that it was.
That's bumblebee to me, a whole lot of nothing propped up as something that eats away at everything around it. They could have done it right, and I will say right because what they did was not right by any reasonable standard. Have Blake reuniting with team Rwby and Yang proper way back in volume 5 be INTENTIONAL, something Blake actively strove for due to again, her guilt. Have her returning to their ranks be something she initiated and desired instead of what Sun and her family pushed on her. Keep the first half of what they did in volume 6 there, where Blake is embarrassingly overcompensating out of guilt for Yangs injury, have Yang get upset like she did that she is being looked down on and treated as a lesser. And there's the important part...HAVE THEM TALK THROUGH THAT. Don't ignore it for half a volume to then have them not talk into a relationship where everything is fixed because the guy they both hate is there, have them address their distance, their emotions and their viewpoints on why they feel the way that they do. Don't have that BE the romance however, have them reconnecting be the foundation from where a romance could find some purchase. Also don't have Blake and Yang betray team Rwby and Ironwood for a literal terrorist stranger in volume 7 for zero reason. You CAN still have them have date nights over the political happening in volume 7, like going dancing when they should be keeping an eye out for the, you know, active MURDEROR, but have that be a plot point, a real one. One where they address that in trying to reconnect and explore their friendship and growing feelings that they opened up weakness where others could be hurt via their inactions, basically mirroring what happened with Nora and Ren. Where Blake and Yang have to come to terms with the fact that being Huntresses, being teammates and being friends if not more than friends has their times and their places and that the threat of the Grimm and Salem doesn't allow them the lives they would rather enjoy, so you have them bitterly swallow their feelings for the greater good of Remnant. THEN when everything is going to shit when Salems forces are killing everyone and they have already been risking life and limb to protect and save as many people as possible and NOT complaining about doing their jobs and sitting in a house doing nothing for half a volume drinking tea do you then have them in a moment of genuine emotion confess on the battlefield with the fear of imminent death that their feelings for one another are important, that they need to be said in the face of death to defy it so that they can strive to live. No plot device dropping from the literal sky to force them together via awkward and empty compliments, no you do it where they realize that while they have a duty to defend Remnant and its people, and that they need to make personal sacrifices to do so, swallowing their feelings cant be one of them if they want to live despite everything.
That is doing it with standards, if a bit cliche, its still better than the muddy literal feces the crwby gaslite their drones into thinking was "planned from the start".
I really like that. Hell them going clubbing in Volume 7 was not only really stupid with all that was going on (essentially preparing for war, an unknown serial killer on the loose) but one has to wonder how the club was able to function with the dust embargo which was super mega hard on everyone (allegedly).
Them talking to Robyn was not only dumb but what makes it even worse is they not only let her run away (even after she claims she won’t stop “until I know the whole truth”) they’re not remorseful either, they just double down and claim “Robyn’s on our side! She always has been!”
Also Adam had no reason to be in Volume 6, he was only there (by and large anyway) because Blake stupidly let him run away from Haven.
@@thomasraines1396 Yeah that's been my biggest problem with volume 7, the bumblebee bits and everything to do with Robyn with Blake and Yang actively hurt the series, it makes them look HORRIBLE. Them ducking out of their responsibilities should have been a plot line like it was Ren grieving over the innocents killed due to him being distracted by Nora, like I mentioned it should have been a mirroring intentional plot line instead of something that happened and was never acknowledged because it would make them look bad...er worst. I'm sure the writers caught that when they wrote it but decided NOT to capitalize on it. Instead they betray everyone because Woman and women right over man, because iron man bad because iron man is man.
@@Kushrada and then Yang gets on Ren’s case in Volume 8 and even tries to talk about their (supposed) accomplishments which not only didn’t happen because of them (they had massive help in everything) but one of the things she mentions (stopping the Leviathan) only needed to happen because they were stupid.
@@thomasraines1396 Yup, they even CAUSED the Leviathan attack to begin with, they DIDNT kill it, Cordovin did. Silver eyes failed, their attacks against the grimm failed. The Anti-Kaiju mech took out the kaiju it was designed for despite them crippling it in their arrogance and stupidity. And yet that's her argument against Ren, to cowl him into submission when he calls them all out on their collective failures, she responds being proud of her failure and sees it as anything but. Volume 7 and 8 have collectively some of the worst writing in the series compounded as pros for our "heroes". It is baffling the level of narrative gaslighting the writers do, that's not mentioning Penny being gaslit by Ruby into pulling a Ruby two volumes early and killing herself due to all the guilt Ruby wracked her with. Personally I would have fixed the whole Penny thing by having her leave the combat zone(Atlas). That her safety would have been priority at it denied Salem what she wanted. But the writers needed to give Salem a win so dead Penny we get even though it was a disgusting waste of time and cheap emotional whipping on the fans for shock value. Shock value they already did once already.
I don't know crwby, this horse doesn't look dead enough yet, why don't who keep beating it with that stick just in case?
@@Kushrada exactly they’re utterly delusional. Hell if this was leading to something interesting like the ending of Spec Ops: The Line I would applaud them but they have the characters say and do all these things without a shred of self awareness.
Penny’s death was stupid and it sucks that Ren gets crapped on by the story and is made to look like the bad guy.
Your daily reminder that they killed off any interest people had in Blake when she was in her homeland as well as killed the good writing development they had for her and Sun during that Volume....for obsessive fan pandering.
they also kind gave adams role to illya, they spent volume 5 having adam take the crown, and literally on their first mission as leader, he gets ex communicated and is seen as a traitor and then dissapears for most of volume 6 and magically appears where blake was to kill her and then dies.....WHAT THE F, roosterteeth
@@ethansolorzano5989 You'd think if he was gonna die, they would've save that for hmm I dunno, Weiss's development given his connection to the Schnee company?!
Incidentally, the thing that Ironwood was angriest about in his big relapse near Volume 7's end? The fact that Blake and Yang let Robyn know about the Amity project. Granted, it was still to help Ironwood (which it ultimately did), but they still did this behind everyone else's backs - _their own teammates_ included.
So Yang's talk at the start of Volume 8 about things not working out by following Ruby's lead? Yeah, while Ruby was primarily following Ironwood's orders (say what you will about her withholding the same knowledge from Ironwood that Ozpin withheld from him for far longer), Yang and Blake were doing something that Ruby wasn't even made aware of beforehand. Blake, I can probably ease up on (a tiny bit) in this regard since she decided to work directly with Ruby in Volume 8 for the sake of all of Remnant, but Yang...godd___it, Yang.
...Though of course, what actually caused this relapse was Cinder's bluff (which no one saw coming, as she and Neo were both under the radar for a long time). Ironwood was able to keep himself together from finally hearing that withheld info on Salem's immortality, especially long enough to fight and subdue Watts. It was only when he saw that glass queen, a taunting emblem of his big failure in Beacon and the one who orchestrated it, that he broke. Buuuuut I guess people are scared to credit Cinder for anything.
I’d recommend checking out the webcomic “I’m The Grim Reaper” a lot of the exact things you criticized RWBY for it does spectacularly and I can’t recommend it enough.
I'll check it out
Great video
I still think it would have been much better if Team RWBY had a sisterhood like relationship between all 4 of them. Blake the only child who is a run away finding strength and comfort, Weiss from the broken family learning wat normal siblings tend to act as and finding her true family, then you have Ruby and Yang the half sisters that can help and bring the other two in to a the sisterhood they already have.
this whole chose to pander by pushing a romantic relationship and lets be honest it really is a pandering, though CRWBY isn't fully to blame for it since the very toxic side of the fans and shipping really didn't help.
Well that's my two cents.
I disagree. You can still have a sisterhood like friendship between the main four while not taking it literally and have two of the become a couple. Either option on a writing level have equal value.
Whether or not it is pandering is something no one can really answer (regardless of how satisfying it may be for some).
its not so much im against blake and yang being together, but i dont believe for a second this shit was planned from the beginning, this clearly a classic case of pandering to a specific audience, and retconning things to make it look like yang and blake were going to end up together. which makes no sense cause in the first episode yang is very obv attracted to guys, and they spent 5 volumes with blake and sun. So either they are trying to gaslight us, or they failed to actually give them progression on how they got there.
i dropped this series a while back. good to see i made the right decision. bumblebee was such a forced thing because of the fans that i just can't get behind it. almost as bad as Legend of kora.
it's korra. also, avatar was on nick so couldn't be as open what bumblebee excuse of being forced? lol.
@@aprilpearson6923 then they should have left it out altogether. sneaking it in at the end like that didn't do the show any favors. and it makes it look like they intentionally wrote Mako as some poor bf just so they could make both the girls he dated bisexual and smash them together.
@@k1ll3rcombo25 I wouldn't call sneaking as much as subtle as allowed and I've read because of that we got lumity, catradora etc today.
@@aprilpearson6923 wasn't owl house dropped and she ra isn't that popular. they can claim all the credit they want but disney is suffering from what might be called "representation overload". they force things into the shows to check all the boxes without actually making the show any good. their losing out to Godzilla.
@@aprilpearson6923 at least with legend of korra in the books they actually tackle more on their relationship, we barely had interactions with the two, blake dissapears never even mentioning her team only that she ran away over guilt and then next volume theyre giving each other the f me eyes. Like what?
Bumblebeeship literally serve no purpose.
Bumblebee was a mistake should have never been a thing it wasn’t what Monty was going for them
Disagree. Heavily. Regardless of what we think Monty's intentions were, we at the very least know that he was open to BB being a thing. Not to mention if it was written well, it wouldn't have been a mistake
@@KaiserShounen
I belive that he wanted sisterhood between Team RWBY. But we could argue over that forever. Because we trully not know, what Monty actually have planned.
Sidenote: The major video about the confession scene is still at 157k views, while Ruby finding herself is at 1,1M views. Ouch...
@@KritoSkywaker I think the best anyone will get when it comes to Monty's plan or vision is the interviews and wherever else he may have talked about RWBY. Though ten years of back and forth, and poor citation/archiving, has probably caused some of the interviews and information to be lost. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the sources have become lost media even, and people are trying to search for them.
On the sidenote, I think the reason the video with Ruby discovering herself is higher in views is because it has a hashtag, and it also has comments turned on. Both of which the Bumblebee confession video, that I think your referring to, doesn't have. So that may just be TH-cam's algorithm at work. Since the Bumblebee video doesn't have comments on, it probably would not have gotten that much promotion within the algorithm early on, which basically kills momentum on videos views and likes. Though it has gotten over 100k views, which is impressive to say the least
@@Number1Rival
Impressive on it's on ways. But I talked about the BB Confession Scene video uploaded by SonicProductions 2.0
The one with Zee has the comments disabled, because I presume, that TONS of comments were arguing over BB and the uploader couldn't handle the pressure.
@@KritoSkywaker Ah, my mistake. But it still may be the TH-cam algorithm playing favorites due to programming to some extent. However, that's just my best guess.
However, both the Bumblebee and "Ruby finds herself" videos do show how much people care about these characters, and how much potential they have. It's just a shame that a lot of the payoffs in RWBY are weakened by mishandling of the build up to the payoff, and in some cases the payoff not fully paying off.
Monty Ohm is rolling in his grave so hard he's pulling off a full body rasengan. But at least the toxic fan have their precious shit ship