Floating Shelf Installation Hacks - Keys for a TIGHT Install

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2021
  • In this video we install some long floating shelves. We cover how to get a strong, tight, and easy installation with a long shelf, between two walls.
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  • @seanlorrainecallaghan756
    @seanlorrainecallaghan756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for NOT editing out your mistakes (forgot metal rod) so us regular folks don’t feel so dumb. Nice to know you’re human.

  • @ScrewThisGlueThat
    @ScrewThisGlueThat ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The "Oh, I forgot the Rod" look is priceless. Good to know you are human. Great Job again Spencer.

  • @mugsmaxwell6822
    @mugsmaxwell6822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Any lifelong carpenter knows EXACTLY what AGHHH means , great video as usual. Thanks for all the awesome insight and knowledge you have Mr. Lewis!

    • @cox2432
      @cox2432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmfao so true hahaha

    • @aztek54208
      @aztek54208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, rough day...... days over!! Get away from me... lol

    • @mbo9635
      @mbo9635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lmao that made my day I'm a lifetime carpenter and I definitely know what that mean

    • @HepauDK
      @HepauDK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Mistakes were made". :)

    • @Splintermill
      @Splintermill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. True statement Mugs. Roughly translates to “well that sucked but it looks friggin awesome. 🍻:30

  • @phillipsabo5094
    @phillipsabo5094 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean good people are hard to find but seems like you would be a good teacher

  • @Simphome
    @Simphome ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn!! Apart from the slick workmanship, you also show the struggle. So I can know what to do when in the same position. Cool video!!

  • @mrconch7238
    @mrconch7238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome channel. Thanks for avoiding the clickbait and unnecessary extra video length that a lot of other finish carpenters are doing.

  • @jecht34
    @jecht34 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Loved the use of the board to temporarily tweak the walls back a hair. Couple seconds of video worth years of trade school. Awesome video

    • @NapTimeStation
      @NapTimeStation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahh, so that's what he was doing with the board he wedged in there.

  • @thomasnelson2463
    @thomasnelson2463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That trick with the "spreader" is going to work with me tomorrow, I'll be installing floating shelves.

  • @hmtrimworks7148
    @hmtrimworks7148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Pro tip with the rounding of the shelf… I would’ve done the cleat, but probably would not have thought of doing the shelf… at least not on the first one…
    Great job… (and the glue on the finger commet was savage)

  • @kevinryan573
    @kevinryan573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    It’s not how you mess up it’s how you fix it that matters!!
    Also love the spreader board!!

  • @matthewpaul5536
    @matthewpaul5536 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol the sequence at the end let us know you’re one of us. 😂 the sigh of let’s go home

  • @derrick9635
    @derrick9635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved that you showed you forgot the rod,your human ,kudos ,great job sir .

  • @timothybrady1174
    @timothybrady1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am so glad you put in the fact you forgot the rod. Seriously, for me I always feel like crap like that happens only to me. Great job and love the channel!

    • @hoeonthestro
      @hoeonthestro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great video ! Used to mot mind getting PL on my hands until I read the warning label.

  • @dashriprock5720
    @dashriprock5720 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was a custom cabinet maker/millworker for over 30 years. A lot of my kitchens, libraries, built ins, architectural millwork etc. are in multi million dollar homes a long the gold coast. It's laughable how many self proclaimed experts who are nothing more than rank amateurs at best are on youtube. Based on this one video, it's refreshing to see a guy who actually knows what he is talking about, the real deal. Nice work!

    • @BobMuir100
      @BobMuir100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Couldn’t agree more!
      Bob
      England

  • @danbrown3460
    @danbrown3460 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great job Spencer! I love your tread jig that you use to get precise lengths on wall to wall fits. I am a retired cabinetmaker but I always learn new tricks watching you. Please keep sharing your videos with us!!

  • @kiwdwks
    @kiwdwks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Everyone wants floating shelves and have no idea of what's involved to do it right. Awesome tips. The threaded rod with PL is a great addition to keep the shelves straight. Thanks again!

  • @bretburt7317
    @bretburt7317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love how you "spread" the walls apart to have a super tight joint.

  • @MovieNutter
    @MovieNutter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Spencer - your videos are getting really good. This one was so helpful... Thanks for all the help & inspiration. Never thought of using the stair tread gauge for alcove shelving. Always been frustrated with my previous efforts.

  • @Warkive
    @Warkive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I appreciate you not only sharing your immense experience with us, but all the difficult moments you run into as well that so many of us DIY'rs can relate to. So many videos on here show near perfect execution from start to finish and it can be a little disheartening to us dimwits.

  • @Avedis-G
    @Avedis-G 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’ve got that same FSTOOL XL4000 blade on my DeWalt as well. It has really made things consistent. Thank you so much for the videos! The bit at the end where you forgot the rod in that last shelf… I literally said, “thank goodness… It’s not just me!“. You totally didn’t have to add that in but I’m glad you did.

  • @loricraig3306
    @loricraig3306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a begining carpenter/woodworker at age 60, I can use all the simply explained tips, tricks and fully explained instructions I can get. Great job. Thank you.

  • @Chip57
    @Chip57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never a good idea to forget the “rod” SL …
    I noticed the back bevel on the top/bottoms, great detail of box out with ribbon shelf building? needing a scribe cut/fit allowing the least amount of material to remove. I love working with tight tolerances to avoid extra scrap/clean-up trying to eliminate non-production chores is a must.
    Love the stretcher too! Great job/vid bud..

  • @novosib9017
    @novosib9017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MORNING OF A JOB - pure patience and enthusiasm
    END OF A JOB - (your last moments in the video exactly)
    i know too well your reaction, 15 years carpentry, 4 years stair building :)

  • @als1023
    @als1023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video, thanks Spencer for everything, and for collecting a wonderful community of talent and willingness to comment additions and ideas!

  • @bryanmiller5584
    @bryanmiller5584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how your technique changed a little with each shelf as you learned along the way. Love your content.

  • @ryanmcdonald9929
    @ryanmcdonald9929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A trick I learned a couple years ago for tight fits like this is rub wax on the ends of the material you are sliding in. Helps protect the walls and makes material slide easier.

    • @evictioncarpentry2628
      @evictioncarpentry2628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just spread the wall with a board like he did and there's no need

    • @michaelmaas5544
      @michaelmaas5544 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Painters will love that, nothing like painting wax 😂

    • @alphaclean3364
      @alphaclean3364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelmaas5544 Kick it down the line, like everyone does before us

    • @bryanhall9996
      @bryanhall9996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll try that. I just struggled with an install on an alcove like this where the walls were trapezoidal, pinching towards the opening, 5/8" tighter in front than back. I use the wall spreading technique, but on finished walls I dislike it. I ended up cracking the corner bead of the drywall loose and of course paid for the repair. Would have been much easier to clean up the wax!

    • @kwizmon
      @kwizmon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alphaclean3364 true story bruv 🤣🤣

  • @raymondsiewert2720
    @raymondsiewert2720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You are an amazing Carpenter and easily the best on TH-cam. Am learning a bunch from you. I have been in the finish trades for over 30 years. 😁

  • @lenmaselli3589
    @lenmaselli3589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ordered a set of the stair gauges. Thank you for making my shelf install on some way out of square walls possible!

  • @currymon
    @currymon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    dude I've been watching a lot of your older videos lately and when the new ones drop I'm always blown away by how far your video making skills have come, legit on the level of your carpentry skills. To be so dialed on two different things.... damn bro!!! as always super helpful info, I always learn things that don't even have to do specifically with what your accomplishing in each video, thank you

  • @harmzuay
    @harmzuay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had that stair tread jig sitting in my garage utility closet for about 2 years now. I'm excited to be able to dust it off and have another use for it.

  • @craigandresen2456
    @craigandresen2456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the wall spreading technique. Brilliant.

  • @Tez73
    @Tez73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tell ya what spencer I would not like to be the guy who had to get them shelves off in the future 🙈
    Brilliant install pal . Very very clever guy 👍

  • @ZaysTitan
    @ZaysTitan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The wood board trick on the top shelf...👌 10:40

  • @woodprojectswithalex2692
    @woodprojectswithalex2692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love so much a woodworker who does a clean and neat job, and you're one of my favorite person. Thanks so much to share your tips and tricks with us. 👌👌👍👍

  • @mosialive
    @mosialive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who's slowing becoming interesting in furniture making, i really enjoyed this video. Thank you Lewis

  • @petermmikhael
    @petermmikhael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolute genius and professional. Thank you for choosing to spend the time on such a great video to help others. Cheers

  • @hollewoodfurniture8190
    @hollewoodfurniture8190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I've got 8 to do in a customers house next month and wasn't sure how to do the template for the walls. That tool is going on my shopping list!

  • @RideaKawasaki77
    @RideaKawasaki77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Really looks like that last shelf is inch high on right side.

  • @michaelmorales112
    @michaelmorales112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I find your videos very informative. Very awesome of you to take the time out of your productivity, to share you knowledge. Thanks a lot man

  • @petenelson8136
    @petenelson8136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love your work and the way you show us how to do a professional job. As a DIY'er I've learned so much from your videos I can't thank you enough. Also loved the way you spread the wall just a bit to get the shelves to slide in, I never would have thought of that.

    • @gkbuilding
      @gkbuilding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was a good idea DIY wall spreader! Lol

    • @ashleycoker9381
      @ashleycoker9381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THAT'S what that random board was for! I was confused, LOL So smart!

  • @rockshot100
    @rockshot100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely beautiful work, thanks. I have to add one thing here. My then 94 year old German carpenter friend built me shelves for my broom closet turned pantry. When he was done I asked him why he didn't make all the shelves equidistant. He said, when are you going to store things in there that are all the same size? Just something to consider and in memory or my old buddy Louie.

  • @gymee425
    @gymee425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    nice to watch someone who knows what they're doing, great instruction too!

  • @kbram7363
    @kbram7363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I make mistakes like that all the time when tired and hungry. Thanks for not cutting it out of the video.

  • @esrawoody91
    @esrawoody91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a perfectionist! I loved how precise he is.

  • @gort5583
    @gort5583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work, lots of good tips. Very reassuring to see experts make some mistakes or have things not go exactly to plan.

  • @alexjimenez6979
    @alexjimenez6979 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are now watching a master at work!

  • @Christopher-pf8qt
    @Christopher-pf8qt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great, great commentary-so clear communication.

  • @jawa6066
    @jawa6066 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job your videos are excellent . I’m so impressed as a young man like you have developed skill sets in such a short time

  • @ericklodnicki
    @ericklodnicki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man, every video is truly a master class. Invaluable channel. 💪

  • @judichristopher4604
    @judichristopher4604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EXCELLENT VIDEO
    Thank you for sharing this

  • @fahmywaleed
    @fahmywaleed 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video, 2nd best thing you are not cutting the tough times. As for the best part is the PL on your finger

  • @donaldguilbault7433
    @donaldguilbault7433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do the exact same thing using the stair gauges but I will steal your hack on using the 3/4-in threaded rod. That's a great trick. I work on primarily remodels so the walls are far less than perfect and usually in the situation like you have the front is the narrowest measurement which means you can never slide it in as a pre-assembled unit. To get around this I cut a top and a bottom piece scribed perfectly to the walls then I installed a spacer in the front so the opening is uniform across the shelves and then biscuit and glue a front edge on.

  • @hazembata
    @hazembata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the best instructional videos I have seen. Very well done.
    I'd like to see how you caulk the shelves.

  • @sniper60605
    @sniper60605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I’m just remodeling my own house, I don’t do carpentry for a live and I love all of your top! Awesome!

  • @LarryGottschalk
    @LarryGottschalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So awesome, thank you very, very much for creating these and narrating so well. Really inspirational.

  • @gilberttrent8593
    @gilberttrent8593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video with good tips man. You got a good framing crew to be able to cut your ends with a miter saw. I did stain grade floating shelves that were just under 8 ft and had to use my jigsaw because of how bowed and unsquare the walls were. I definitely will be using your tips from the video whenever I do floating shelves

  • @paratrooper8916
    @paratrooper8916 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of excellent tips and tricks here, amazing looking shelves.

  • @tc9148
    @tc9148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genius. Love the wall spreader.

  • @jefff6167
    @jefff6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Real man, I put PL on my breakfast asbestos flakes every morning. Hoorah

  • @DoctorHayduke
    @DoctorHayduke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You will never run out of work. Great video man. I picked up a few things for sure👍

  • @SuperBigsal
    @SuperBigsal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for showing these tips, I am hoping to do a job similar to this in the new year

  • @farawayanyway1962
    @farawayanyway1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like always at this channel , nice Pro tips, super explanation and a lot of useful information. Even problem soften without strange cut off the video.
    Thank You 🙏🏻 All best and good luck with another project. Regards from Raf, Polish contractor in Amsterdam (NL)

  • @scottwilson4347
    @scottwilson4347 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So many great tips..thanks for sharing Spencer..when I do floating shelves I make them 3” thick & miter fold them..then I make a 4 sided frame 1 1/2” thick to fit the inside of the shelf( I’ll make the frame about 1/4 short of the depth to account if I scribe to the back wall..with stretchers every 12” to make a “ chicken ladder” or a sturdy frame..but I find if I have to slide the shelf in a drywall outside corner the front of the shelf is shorter than the back because of corner bead.. so instead of trying to custom fit & damage drywall I just cut my shelves 1/2” short ,slide them in & nail off into frame on sides close to edge & back ..then mill some scribe 3/4 x 3/8 & trim the sides of shelves to hide gaps but it also makes a nice detail..just my experience but love this channel

  • @splanzza
    @splanzza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% GOLD! Thanks for sharing Spencer. 👽

  • @jonanddarlenenunn767
    @jonanddarlenenunn767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Stair tread gauges are a great idea, just hope your back wall is flat and 90° to the end walls. Any hump in the back wall will throw the gauge reading off. Just speaking from experience. Good video, as usual👍

    • @aztek54208
      @aztek54208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You would then scribe the back. Pain in the neck but that's what you must deal with.

    • @joeyfh
      @joeyfh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right about the back wall being flat, but the corners don't need to be 90°. The shelf gauge gives you both those angles, plus the relative position of the back corners.

    • @craigburghardt8604
      @craigburghardt8604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get the realative angles to the back wall with the stair gauge. What is not covered, and what I have seen is bowed back walls.
      What I try to talk my clients into is inserting a shelf I build nice and square with dado cuts to support then trim the front to make them look floating. Otherwise I just caution them about this possibility.
      I have also cut the board into the drywall on back a few times when there is a bow. Attach my back bracket to the studs and the shelf fits on the bracket inside the drywall pocket, so no gap showing to reveal to bow. A little caulk cleans up the line.
      Good video

  • @judichristopher4604
    @judichristopher4604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:32
    "If you're afraid to get some PL on your fingers... are you even a real man?"
    "Amen Brother... Amen"

  • @jbwonfire4God
    @jbwonfire4God 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and tips. I made a stair jig that I can run my flush trim router on that works well...I also love my screw type push poles with rubber pads for "expanding" the walls for right installs. Keep up the good work!

  • @herefornow9671
    @herefornow9671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an excellent bit of insight and instruction
    Thanks very much for taking all the time
    🙏🙏🙏

  • @gsh319
    @gsh319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ..forgot the rod.. ahhh, ,, we've all been there madman. very cool, great work. Ya gotta love building things, that's why we're all in it!

  • @chicothesavage
    @chicothesavage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best carpenter in the biz and awesome informative tips. Keep up the vids and excellent work .

  • @JF0913
    @JF0913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome job as always. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @T.E.P.
    @T.E.P. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding work always ... incredible work always great vid Spencer

  • @unusualpond
    @unusualpond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Inspirational. Thank you for sharing your knowledge

  • @chrisperry1831
    @chrisperry1831 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the encouragement and enthusiasm at end of video 😂. Great video, thank you.

  • @JohnLee-ed8yi
    @JohnLee-ed8yi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for showing pro tips in detail.

  • @joyfulstrategy5694
    @joyfulstrategy5694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the plank walls too

  • @voldemarsslokenbergs799
    @voldemarsslokenbergs799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video good tips 👍 everything makes sense! Shelf installation I would start from the top , in that way you don’t have to lean over installed ones.

  • @chuguel33
    @chuguel33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you're work Lewis 👍I learn a lot from you thank you for your knowledge and tips

  • @mattschoular8844
    @mattschoular8844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome technique. Thanks Spencer.

  • @BobMuir100
    @BobMuir100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time viewer and WOW! So impressed……….
    Learnt more than any other channel in a single video!
    Thanks
    Bob
    England

  • @zephyr1408
    @zephyr1408 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thee most iconic “SPENCER LEWIS “ quote “ IF YOUR AFRAID TO GET A LITTLE PL PREIUM ON YOUR FINGER OUR YOU REALLY A MAN; PROBABLY NOT “!

  • @pill5180
    @pill5180 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing works!! very impressive...thank you, sir!!!

  • @MarceneiroFDS
    @MarceneiroFDS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!! specially the hard time with the not paralled side walls!!

  • @kathywillis7459
    @kathywillis7459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lots of great pointers. Thank you!

  • @eltoncarvalho9339
    @eltoncarvalho9339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best TH-cam channel of finish carpentry

  • @ClimbAClassic
    @ClimbAClassic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Legit 🍻 props for not cutting out the mistake

  • @lyleconway6795
    @lyleconway6795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. Like the tip where u used the board to spread the walls a tiny bit 💪🏻👍🏻

  • @kirkhepburnmiddleagedwhiteguy
    @kirkhepburnmiddleagedwhiteguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not skeered to show yer human. Love it. Always very well made videos, superb technique and excellent instruction.

  • @MoGhotbi
    @MoGhotbi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Lots of useful pearls. Thank you.

  • @alitabattlechicken9732
    @alitabattlechicken9732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    “If you’re afraid to get some PL on your fingers are you even a real man?” 🤣🤣 truth.

    • @dame_porter
      @dame_porter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol.

    • @fortagband8262
      @fortagband8262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LMAO

    • @sparks6666
      @sparks6666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No way a woman could do this.

    • @MichaelCZUSA
      @MichaelCZUSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A great line that my buddies and I will be repeating for years to come! LOL!

    • @tuckernance
      @tuckernance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think this is the first time I've heard him crack a joke!

  • @Icantball67
    @Icantball67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “If you’re afraid to get a little PL in your hands, are you even a real man?” 🤣 That’s when I hit the like button!

  • @streetkombativesystem4704
    @streetkombativesystem4704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another outstanding video, I have learnt so much from your videos mate, cheers.

  • @mikeknoll2865
    @mikeknoll2865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking back on working thru that , you become more capable thru it, mostly it’s your perceived reaction to other peoples opinions that stings the most, so control your reaction to the problem and fix it, that’s what you did. ( very good job ).

  • @markarita3
    @markarita3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work Spence! Those bays need to be very square or if not, opening outwardly if not, these types of installs would be next to impossible.

  • @ivanlozada5397
    @ivanlozada5397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great job, thanks for sharing cool tips!!

  • @skoomasteve6144
    @skoomasteve6144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for another excellent lesson.

  • @gray5857
    @gray5857 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos ! I have been enjoying seeing some of these techniques. thanks !

  • @williamwang1849
    @williamwang1849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good job. glade someone can do the perfect shelf for the client.

  • @aarondgomez970
    @aarondgomez970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    😆 Hell Yeah "uugghhhh" You'll sleep like a baby after that!!! Awesome job and great craftsmanship as always!!! Keep it up!!! 🔥🔥

  • @michaellacaria910
    @michaellacaria910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as usual from you, lots of good tips. I love the way you can slide the the shelves in, but I had no such luck with side walls. The corners cannot be square by our North American design using drywall. The corner beads get mudded and by design will bulge out on both corners, inside and out. That’s why they cannot be square and the front is narrower than the middle then even more narrower in the back, maybe, depends on drywaller! Haven’t found a square wall yet. Kitchen installers know this and usually use fillers at the ends to square up cabinets.