Window & Door Casing Installation Secret #1... Proud Drywall or Jamb??? Just Roll The Miter
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- This trick will blow your mind. I worked in construction for years before I learned this and when I did I wanted to slap myself because this is such a simple and effective way to make a compound cut on a miter in one easy step. I'll probably do a part 2 video to show some other techniques.
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I am a retired Carpenter. I have done just what you showed. I refer to it as a hopper or a reverse Hopper joint. It's good to see you pass on this knowledge to others. Good job keep up the good work.
WTF…Where was this about 5 years ago when I replaced all my windows 🪟.. Not sure what I’m more impressed with, your knowledge of carpentry or how your able to explain/teacher us this so easily. You my friend are a amazing teacher. Bless you and your family… Thanks
Thanks!
Nobody cares scram weirdo
Yeah ! That !!!! What B. Cook said .
Did mine terribly with a buddy yesterday and found this video today.
I love the way you teach! you are the best
I’m learning so much from you! I’m an old lady who loves diy projects. Everything I’ve learned from you makes so much sense and is easy to understand. I never would’ve thought to put up a nail to hold a long expanse of crown molding- duh! I’m not much for getting up and down a ladder ( especially when no one is around) so I really appreciated the tips to save trips up and down a ladder! Now I can tackle the crown molding by myself without having my daughter come help me. You’re a great teacher!
I’ve been working in finish/ trim carpentry for almost 4 years and ever since I’ve started you’re videos have really helped me out, even to this day I still watch em when I’m stuck with something
Great to hear!
Ive been doing carpentry and molding for over 30 years and just learned something new!!! Thank you!!!
@MichaelKingsfordGray I get right on that
I’m professional but not so experienced as You do buddy,but I ‘m proud to have you at the side of my work life. Good bless you! Thank you for all work that you share with us. 🤗
Not quite retired at 59, but I’m an old school finishing carpenter and I’ve used many of the same tricks. However, I’m not ready to give up my air hose and Senco finish guns. Old and American made. You still can’t beat the quality.
I’m very impressed with your videos. Thank you.
I'm a fan of air also. Here I only used the cordless because I had my hoses going a different direction and I only bring one 18 gauge pnuematic onsite. So I'll use the cordless when needed.
Started in finish carpentry in 95, First employer never allowed sanding of casing corners due to the fact we used hard woods (Oak, Cherry and Walnut......I truly miss those days now we get to breathe in MDF) and if you sanded only the corner it looked terrible with stain, so he had us carry different sized gauge blocks to do exactly what you showed in tutorial, awesome tool to have in arsenal of knowledge, now i can put a name to the technique "Rolling The Miter" Awesome Content Bro
Been doing trim and casings for 35 years and learned something. Goes to show you can teach and old dog new tricks!
I've been a carpenter for over 50 years. One trick that I learned for dealing with "proud" drywall is to hold your casing even with the window or door jam and score the drywall with a razor knife. This will give you a 1/4" overlap once the molding is installed. You then remove the surface of the drywall from the score over to the door jam. Sometimes I can just use a paint scraper but at times I have had to use my hammer to crush the drywall. You only remove the surface portion that is protruding past the edge of the jam.
To align crown molding and trim on severely uneven wall I use tiny "trim shims" that I cut on my miter saw.
I have used biscuits on trim molding. Remember, "it doesn't have to be right, it only has to look right".
All good advice. I do the same thing with scoring the drywall. 👍
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That's actually a superb trick with rolling the miter this is definitely a trick that'll make me smile over and over again thank you
I just want to say how good your videos are. I love how you talk to the professional or at least you talk to someone that halfway knows what they are doing and you are not talking to the complete novice.
I would buy plastic signs at Home Depot, cut them into strips, and keep them in my tool bucket. If I needed to “roll the casing” on the miter saw, I would stack some plastic strips to the right thickness under the edge of the trim. Always worked great. Thanks for sharing. I’ve never seen anyone share this technique.
Back to the practical, old school, simple solutions, which seems to be rare these days. Very pro.
I’ve completed/replaced much of the finish carpentry in our home. But not the windows, they’re next, SOON. WOW! I am so glad I watched your video. Thank you for generously sharing.
Thank you!! Had I watched this years ago, it would have prevented a lot of head banging. I've got a full house flooring & casing to do next month. This will save me lots of future frustrations. Thank you.
Simple, straight forward, and affective; my favorite type of TH-cam videos. Great tips!
Mind blowin!!! I worked for a builder who would have us plane the jambs down so the casing layer flat. This was done in $3 million dollar homes. All that wasted time.
Thanks for sharing this man!
This is why carpentry is a great job. You never get bored and you learn new things every time. Plus work with cool tools.
Great video and i really like your youtube channel.
Carpenters are required to use problem solving on a daily basis, even to complete the 'simplest' jobs...It's very stimulating in that respect...
Framers are generally overworked and underpaid.
Nice to see the window you are actually building for.
20 years ago I worked with a guy who would have a dime, nickel, and quarter on the side of the chop saw and we would use them stacked in combination as needed to approximate the angle needed to accomplish the roll you show. Having a few pre-cut shims like yours would be good too. Thx-
“Nested Position” new term to me and I like it have done the roll cut before. I like using cut up refrigerator magnets as they stick to and are of uniform thickness. Pretty much get to reading 1 count, 2 count, 3 count on stack. Don’t forget your in it to make money every trim carpenter should be running 3 chop saws L,R, 90 slide. Keep it up
This is the most simple,quick and right way of fixing those problems...i learned something new and its done right...i believe in do it right the first time and ill be using this technique from now on for sure...thank you so much for the right and easy way of fixing these problems...what a time and money saver...no more waisting molding trying to get the right fit...awesome video and thank you for sharing it with us...
Every time I hear old school.... well, that's me. Framed and trimmed custom homes starting in the 80's. Retired now but still do some work. This young man, Spencer, he is really good.
Excellent job young man.
Thank you
This a great tip. I remember when I first figured it out on a job with a few tough spots. Instead of keeping multiple shim strips at different thicknesses, I glued up a stack of thin shims in stair step. It always stayed in my pouches. When I came to a problem I would hold up a scrap of mitered casing, the measurement may change at the overhanging miter tip, and count the steps in the shim. Then I used the same stepped shim at the miter saw to hold the casing at the nested angle. Thanks for all your tips. They have stepped up my game.
I like the idea pf a single gauge, I'm wondering how you hold the stepped shims against the miter guide if for example the jamb side needed lifted, wouldn't the steps hold the trim from flush with the straight guide? It's possible I'm misunderstanding what the shape of the stepped shims actually looks like. In my mind it's somewhat like a stair stringer....
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I have been doing this for years using a stack of pennies. I measure the height error in each corner using a stack of pennies and then use the same number of pennies to roll the miter. Height to the nearest penny thickness is more than sufficient for perfect joints.
Thanks for the awesome content! I also love how you talk slow enough for me to understand and comprehend what your saying.
This how I was taught by my boss back in 1988. It's a good simple quick technique. Nice job. I enjoy your videos and your craftmanship.
Thanks so much for making these videos and sharing your knowledge. I can only imagine how much effort goes into making these over and above your every day work. Much respect and very much appreciated!
Please do secret #2. I work with a lot of trim that has lots of straight edges too. I'd like to know how to to make the proud edges work seamlessly. This is a great video. Such a simple fix.
He puts a filler shim up the wall to build casing out 3/8". May crowd the sill area though.
i have been a contractor for many years and have had the "pleasure" of dealing with proud casings/drywall, either with shims or shaving drywall. Thanks to you I just learned a new and efficient technique that looks good. Thanks for a great video.
This is so obvious. I have no idea why this isn't common knowledge. Thanks for your willingness to share. Its a great sign that you have truly mastered your craft.
This is why I love youtube. Havent had cable or watched regular tv in many many years, but as a 24 year construction tradesmen I still get to learn new tips and tricks of the trades. Today I own and operate a general contracting business, but am regularly (at least weekly) able to put on my tool belt and work in the field. Sure, I spend a lot of time meeting with clients, going through predesign, putting together bids, picking up materials...many many things to do as a construction trades business owner...but keeping tools in my hands is important.
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This is amazing! How did 382 people give this a thumbs down? I guess you just cannot please everyone.
They cut their trim within a half inch
This guy is the best production finish carpenter on you tube
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Carry a rasp in your bag, on wide window casing you can ease the drywall back around the jamb. Your casing will lay flatter and you'll have no gap on the reveal to fill.
I just use the bent end of my glazing bar to scrape the drywall. It's fairly fast and precise on mud, tho it's not very good on drywall paper, but either way it's compact and a part of my everyday bag load. I guess if someone is consistently doing finish work, a rasp is a better idea; I'm often doing a million different things every day.
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I am finishing our basement, myself mostly. I hired out the drywall and when he was finished, I was startled to see how much the window frame projected proud of the drywall.......NOW WHAT? And there are 8 windows! Seemed very surprising since it's a walkout basement and the wall framing should be exactly as the main floor, so not sure why the frames are positioned differently unless those jambs were made deeper for some odd reason. So, I knew if I wanted the outside of the windows casings to meet the drywall that I would have to do a compound miter on the casings. But it would be mostly guess work and likely not have good results and would be very frustrating. I've been putting this phase off until I got up the nerve, but after watching your video I can now attack this job with knowledge of how I can make the miters look tight and the casings meet the drywall. I can sleep at night now!! : ) OH, and it was lucky that I bought the Colonial style casings that work with this corrective process (thumbs up!)
you hit the nail on the head. It takes all sub contractors to take quality in their work to not make other sub's have issues doing their job.
Used this technique before , I called it hacking my way to victory. Thanks for sharing this excellent professional method.
seriously watching this a day late. I discovered this little trick last night trying to cut offset panel molding against a raised panel. Great video and tip
@Inside Carpentry. Wow, mind blown. The most popular trick most people know is that caulk is their friend. Not mine if I'm using stain grade casing or trim. Thanks for sharing your trick.
Also, it's nice to know that IT'S POSSIBLE for trades people to frame, hang doors, hang windows, and hang drywall that still lets the trim to hang properly (not proud or recessed). Yes, you are blessed to have a great crew who also truly care about the job they do.
Stay safe and well.
By far the best way of handling this I've found. Thanks for the great tips.
Effin brilliant yet such a simple concept. I've been trying to find a more efficient way to deal with proud jambs for years
WOW. Subscribed. Just a weekend DIY guy. This is why we pay professionals. They know these tricks.
starting a remodel of my house and you just saved me so much time going into it. thanks
Imagine all the carpenters who don’t know this trick! All the time they waste and all the money they could be bringing home to their families!
Great tip!
What a great video buddy.
Keep them coming.
Im a PM in construction and i know exactly what you are talking about.
I wish all my guys were educated like this.
Thanks
Dude
You’re fricking awesome I’m about to install casings on a garage window. Wow never knew this. You are the man!!!
Awesome trick! Somebody needs to write a carpentry book of just tips/tricks like this.
The first time I cases windows this is what I was taught to do. Very simple, and makes the product look good.
This is great. Windows are easy but setting doors plumb in old walls is pretty tricky. I’ll be using this trick for sure. Thanks a lot
Such wonderful life changing technique. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Really useful tip! So many houses are poorly framed. This really helps to deal with those issues.
Thank you for taking a seemingly complicated issue and providing a simple solution. You are an excellent teacher 👏
Good tips ! I will say this though,Finehome Building magazine had an article several years ago,recommending all finish carpenters do a pre drywall inspection on jobs they are to trim. During that inspection,they note all framing defects,bring them to the attention of the GC and have them corrected prior to trim. Besides the issue you presented,among other concerns were out of plumb door jambs,misaligned studs,insufficient blocking where needed etc..
This might be one of the smartest tricks I’ve ever learned! Thank you very much good sir!
Nice one Spence I will definitely add into my technique
This might be the most genius thing I've ever heard of. Awesome!!
Man you are one lucky dude to find a builder that doesn’t have crappy framers and sheet rockers. But I will definitely keep this trick in mind. Btw I will only wet set pocket doors from now on. Thank you sir!
Hey, thanks again for Not boring the audience with a long intro and outro to all your other content like some other You Tubers!
Retro-Tech you bet. I try and keep it as lean as I can while still getting the point across adequately.
Great job explaining how to resolve the problem. Keep up the good work
Like so many other comments on here, ive come across this problem hundreds of times but ive never seen your method - excellent stuff :-)
God bless bro 😎 we all learn something new everyday and this is one of those things ! Because sometimes the framers and Sheetrock guys don’t care about the carpenters lol which that make them look bad not us . 👍🏻
This guy is a natural teacher! Thanks brother
Everyones a carpenter until the real carpenter shows up.. great video 🙌
As a ‘shim’ I place an appropriate diameter drill bit against the saw fence under my material. Easy
Thank you for sharing this information. I’m always so thankful for people who share knowledge like this.
This method I also learned back in 2005 from my father when doing wall panels.. that's the proper way of doing it. But what happens when you have 68 windows and 40 of them ask for rolling the trim.
It's called a hammer and shim. The shim is so you dont damage the sheetrock paper to much. The hammer.. well that's for hammering down the protruding sheet rock around the frame. Tricks of the trade when doing production trim carpentry.
It's genius and simple at the same time. Thanks man!
Brilliant! Been a handyman for 40 years and never thought of doing it that way. Where were you 40 years ago? That saves so much time and gives a superior result! Thank you.
Hi Spencer I just wanted to add to my other comment, a big thank you for sharing all your hard earned tips and tricks, I've been in this game for some time ( 25 years ouch!), ive learnt from you so many new approaches to stuff I've been doing for years so I just wanted to say HOW MUCH I AND OTHERS Im SURE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS TO SHARE YOUR WISDOM, THANK YOU 🙏 MATE
👏👏 from James, in the 🇬🇧 keep it coming please 👍
I appreciate that brother. Its a privilege to serve.
Outstanding video! Both in the technique you’re teaching and how you’re teaching/explaining
Dealing with a door that's recessed now. I think I'm going to need a jamb extension. Anyway, once again thanks for letting us look over your shoulder.
Excellent information. Thanks for the vid.
Well done. I have been doing this for years, but never heard it called rolling... LOL now, I will have a name for it.
Haha. I don’t even know if it’s correct. It’s just what I call it for lack of better words. 👍
Great vid. When i was framer we always used a 1/2 block to set pre installed jambs to the correct drywall thickness. Although i am a firm believer in planing the jamb back if it is proud of the dry wall. With block plane an touching it up with some 120 paper. Gives young carpenters the chance to learn how to sharpen and set a plane. A rarity in todays carpenters.
This guys a badass! You look pretty young too man. Very skilled, I’ll be watching more of your videos for sure.
I’ve been doing this for years and I like using a shim I draw a line on the shim where it flushes out with the drywall or jamb I then cut the shim on the line and I have the right height for a perfect cut
Holy crap, that is an awesome technique! That could save someone countless hours, in a poorly framed house! Thank you very much for this video!!
Thank you, fantastic technique
I started out in rough carpentry and learned not to leave a mess for the next guy to fix.
My HERO OF THE DAY👍👍 much better than going to get new knives for my power planer !
Outstanding tip young man that I will no doubt use.
blows my mind what you just revealed. tx u
I am doing windows this week and I just today thought about the next thing to do and this crossed my mind. If crown jigs work flat why not window casings. I done two windows and it worked great. And then I found this video and it is wonderful Technic thank you
Can’t believe I never thought of this. Was an eye opening video. Thank you very much!!!
Right...I've been using ripped material to create an extension on the jambs
Great tutorial I live in American Samoa few off these come my way, thanks for helping
So, you echo the situation on the saw to get a duplication of the angle caused at the jamb. Nice!
BRILLIANT! Great video. Thank you for the tips. I always enjoy learning the tricks of the trades.
Spencer… THANK YOU!
Thank you! Wonderful tip.
Great advice at the end!
Not sure if someone else taught you this technique, but anyway nice to see someone using what the good Lord gave them to get things done.
That must be nice to follow such a good framing crew. I’ve done several jobs here in Austin where almost every single door was out of wack. Many many headaches. Thanks for this advice! Priceless 🙏🏼
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Mate, I’ve been struggling with this forever. I think you just doubled if not trippled the speed I can do casing now! Cheers!
You are top notch, top of the line craftsman
That’s a great tip! I can’t believe I have never thought of it before. Thanks for sharing it!
Right
THANK YOU I've been doing it the hard way this will save me a ton of time.
Thank you so much for this video. I was afraid I’d be stuck with giant gaps between my door trim and the drywall because the jamb sits proud of the drywall. I rolled the miter after watching this video today and it turned out awesome! Such a simple concept and easy to do.
Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge