Hey everyone! Thanks for all the great comments. Seems like a lot of folks disappointed no MLA in 83-inch. What if I said I don’t think the 83 needs it. Wanna know why? How about why MLA would do nothing at all for QD-OLED, that sound interesting? Sound off and let me know!
Great video guys! We just wanted to pop in to clarify that we haven't received the LG G3 we bought for testing yet, so it's not actually part of our Longevity Test. If there's enough interest though, we would definitely consider adding the G3 to the Longevity Test once we finish testing it and publish our review!
100% ! When I get back from overseas in a year I want to make the perfect buying decision. I've seen just how amazing oled with my samsung phone and my LED TV is just not cutting especially with the gray blacks😢
Since I am planning to upgrade my TV soon I have been watching a lot of videos. I am on a watching spree of your videos and I am amazed really. I have learned so much in a very short time. One of the most deserving subs I ever gave.
The G3 handles well against the S95C. Surprisingly so. All round the G3 came out throwing blows. Sony is now the dark horse. If they continue to focus on image accuracy rather than brightness then this year it will be pricing wars. All these tvs are amazing. Saw last year’s A95K and S95B at Best Buy also G2 and they are all close in my opinion. Granted can’t study them like you can Caleb but the differences between each as you pointed out isn’t night and day. I’m not a gamer at all but I’m leaning towards the 77” G3. Overall it has the goods.
A GREAT & HONEST comparison... I liked that you factored in TINT and COLOR also in the comparison. Thanks for you unbiased analysis...you do an OUTSTANDING job with all of your video.
This dude knows what he's doing.. His reviews are truly spectacular.. Like thinking out of the box and compare 2022 Qdoleds and show us the improvement.. Good job
Wow you weren't kidding about the vs videos, this was way faster than I expected! Hoping once Sony gets off their rumps and releases their 2023 lineups you'll do a comparison between the X90L and the previous X90K as well as up against another brand's high end FALD (not mini LED) model. Sony seems very proud of their X90L this year and I'd like to see just how improved it really is
Don’t expect much from x90L as according to Sony it’s more or less last years x95k. New x95L will be the improved version of the latter - but improved at best and not a game changer. New OLEDs for sizes 77” and below are the best TV choice you can go for. Whether 8” is sufficient difference over 77” at worse PQ will be a question comparisons will answer.
This was excellent!!! I am so glad you compared the G3 against the S95B plus a little of the A95K. This is what I was hoping for!! Big thumbs up!! Even though I do wish the A95K was compared just a little bit more, but maybe there just wasn’t that much of a difference between the two 2022 qd-oleds?😀
Great video Caleb. A comparison of motion handling and processing between QD-OLED and MLA would also be interesting... maybe once all the 2023 models are out!
Hello Caleb, thank you so much for the incredible amount of knowledge you have shared over time regarding different TV's and why we should or shouldn't by them. I truly appreciate what you do and I think you have one of the coolest jobs in the world! Since becoming a subscriber of your channel I have made a decision that I am going to purchase an LG C2 because of its features that matter to me most and because of budget. Before discovering your channel I had no real data to inform my TV purchases other than brand awareness. Please keep doing what you do and helping the average consumer make very informed purchasing decisions! Like Sy Sims slogan used to say, "an educated consumer is our best customer."
This is exactly the type of content I want, Caleb! Hopefully when you review the S95C, you can redo this comparison with that TV. Maybe mention gaming and audio differences as well. This review seemed more tech vs tech rather than TV vs TV. Both are useful comparisons though.
I've had the LG C8 for over 4 years now, and the only reason I will upgrade is if it dies - I see no other reason to upgrade in the next five years. Sure the new OLEDs/QD-OLEDs are brighter etc, but it's only marginal in the real world (without having multiple TV-s side by side imho). The C8 still provides absolutely stellar image quality imho.
I just picked up an open box Samsung 65 inch S95B for $1300 in excellent condition. I’ve owned 2 55 inch LG’s that let me down. One power issues and the next sound issues. So far very pleased with my Samsung. I’m not a big gamer and we use it more for streaming movies and regular programming. Time will tell if I ever go back to LG.
@jarekzahary why are U under every comment where someone likes their samsung tv?! we get it you hate samsung but millions love them which is why they are the #1 tv seller for 17 years in a row now!
I think you've done well, from what I've read and know, I don't think you can go wrong with the LG MLA or the Sony/Samsung QD-OLEDS. It seems like they'll all be fairly close in picture quality. Enjoy your new TV.
I purchased the Sony QD Oled A95K but ended up sending it back and kept my LG C9 Oled. The reason was due to the raised grey when my blinds were up and that time of day when sunlight hit it. That’s not the case with LG Oled and it surprised me with such an expensive TV. My take is until QD Oled solves that issue it’s a no go.
The LG G3 offers a 5 year panel warranty that includes burn in. Something to consider. I bought an 83" non mla set, and it's beautiful. Size maaters and at 3700 out the door I am happy.
Hard fight both TVs are so close it's like identical twins, but it's a tough decision made easy (for me anyway). Without a second thought in an instant I would go with the LG period. Easy decision that's based on LGs features, reliability and track record for pushing out updates, even to this day they are still pushing out updates to some of their older but still good models. No contest here!
First of all, thank you for the great reviews I always watch - Caleb you are great to watch. For AVL, where I have seen the significant difference was playing madden on A LG C9 vs the samsung S95b. With the C9, after playing (and playing the whole time) - the C9 will dim and brighten the picture while within the game. On the Samsung s95b, it never dims while playing. I know the c9 is a few years old, but that is when ABL completely is annoying and way better for our use case.
I have the S95B and just got the G3. When I compared them in Hdr, I noticed that the S95b pushed highlight brightness more, especially colored highlights, but the G3 had much better high apl scene brightness. The G3 handles skin tones better and doesn't loose as much saturation in low light scenes, but the G3 also exhibits more low light artifacts, banding, flickering, and some areas can looked raised compared to the S95B. Now, with dynamic tone mapping the G3 is unbeatable, for demo content it's really unbelievable how bright this thing can get, I can't watch movies with those settings, but if I feel like wowing myself I set in my custom vivid mode, with Dtm on, dynamic contrast at medium, expression enhancer on detail, color 65 and warm 50. The s95b can't reach the heights this tv can get, but outside of these modes, the s95b looked better for most hdr content on the standard mode. In Sdr the G3 is a much brighter tv, and funny enough samsung nerfed the sdr brightness in the fmm/movie modes, so I'm now using standard which gets much brighter. Standard mode on the S95b has a really cool version of contrast enhancer that gets rid of that lifted look when set to low. It basically deepens the shadows and tries to give a 3d effect, the G3 does have a settings like this, but you loose some color and blacks get crushed, so the best settings to use to mimic the samsung is to just lower the black level from 50 to 42. I know purists would probably scoff at that, but in sdr it leads to a much more consistent image, and avoids most problems you could have in dark sdr scenes, flicker, banding, etc. So by just lowering the black level, I was able to match the g3 to the s95b and also found that the color handling was much better and skin tones again looked great. On the processing side for sdr, I believe the Samsung is better at cleaning up unwanted artifacts, but I also noticed that it would almost completely remove film grain, if the source wasn't 4k, but in dark scenes the samsung is better at removing noise and banding. The G3 has many more options, but I found that the only one worth using was smooth gradation and I would honestly just max it out, if you mainly stream fhd content. Noise reduction did nothing for me and mpeg noise reduction would take away fine detail, even in 4k content. Sharpness I keep between 10-20. I'd say motion is equal on both tv's, I noticed almost the same amount of stutters, the G3 would have less new scene stutters, but would than stutter randomly in the middle of the scene, and samsung stutter at the beginning of every new panning scene, but is consistent after that. Gaming, For HDR they're both great, you loose some color brightness on the G3, but you can easily switch to another mode and get it back. Highlights get brighter on the G3, but most scenes look a little darker, but there is more contrast and even a nicer 3 dimensionality to the G3. In Sdr the G3 is unnecessarily capped In its brightness and I needed to fix it, or I would've thrown it out lol. I had to download an app on my pc and connect it to the g3 to unlock the peak brightness setting, which is just so dumb on lg's part... After that it looks great and I really appreciate the accurate representation that lg gives even in game mode and again, you can use fmm mode to get the color brightness back. Imo, the g3 shouldn't be this finicky for gaming, the samsung does everything exactly as it should and the G3 should to. Both the S95B and G3 are great for Hdr gaming and I'd be happy with either, Sdr requires tweaks to the g3 for it to be viable, so I'd say it's worse for sdr gaming, but the option to fix it is there.
Great video Caleb, both TVs look amazing, I guess we'll have to consider other features to make a good decision between both of them. Loved the video.!!
After watching 5 of your videos, I went from confused to ready to make a decision to confused again to ready to make a different choice. which sounds confusing but honestly I don’t think it matters which one I go with. But I’m getting the LG G3. So thank you for that.
An excellent point regarding how we perceive our images. I’ve seen a C2 that, from my perspective, doesn’t seem particularly better than my CX does. I’ve seen the G2 at my local store, but thought the Sony A95K looked far superior to my eyes. Whilst the G3 looks the business, I really want to see the 2023 Samsung and Sony QD-OLEDS before I can definitely say which type is better.
For auto dim testing use the dark episodes from game of thrones. It was so dark that you couldn't tell what was on screen and the OLED made it even darker when it auto dimmed. Made me break down and buy the service remote to fix it. Hasn't been an issue since I turned it off
Yes! I had the same problem while watching GOT on my S95B. The image would get darker and darker until I touched the remote and pulled up the TV menu. Like you, I went into the service menu and disabled the feature.
My issue with Samsung is the horrible support I've received over the years and the fact that they don't care about image accuracy the same way LG does with the correct HDR curves and, HGiG for gaming and MadVR's Envy, etc. I wish there was more competition in this space, but it's always coming down to LG.
I believe MLA technology was previously used in 8K Z-series TVs. Maybe they rushed with implementation of MLA for mainstream TVs like G-series but it was not completely new stuff for LG.
My setup is LG C2 60’ paired with Samsung Q930b soundbar and must say its my best setup i ever had. Would be awesome if u could do more reviews on sounbars
Here's two realistic scenarios I run into ABL on LG OLED: in Dune when Paul and his mother meet the Fremen at night, the scenes have similar colors and brightness so ABL kicks in making it near impossible to see. Playing MMOs and scrolling through menus (e.x. managing inventory, looking at wardrobe etc.) Enough of the screen doesn't change so ABL kicks in and I have to wiggle a menu around to get the brightness back.
My son got a 77" LG OLED... the WebOS drove me nuts visiting him. If I got one, I would just hook up my Nvidia Shield (which is less nuts driving....).
A great video to do would be a comparison between older tv (I have a 65c8 that I am upgrading to the g3) as people could see what they would now be getting over tech that is 3,4 or 5 years old. Quite a few of us I reckon 👍 Keep up the awesome work, love your reports. Cheers 🍻
@@jasonkennedy2045 The luminance is VERY obvious. So is the rich color. I'm still very much in tweaking mode. Out of box is 'fine'. Trying Classy's settings. Still a little dark for my taste and still seeing some black crush (which to be fair, if RTINGS is to be believed our C8 was better with black crush than C1-2 and G1-2) so maybe not surprised G3 is a little shadow darker? I am ashamed to say I don't have eARC sound bar (I mistakenly bought Sammy HW-950N right before eARC came out). I am $1600 into a great sound bar and cringe at thought of paying $1299 for same brand S95QR to get eARC. Especially since Andrew Robinson did 20+ minutes on how BAD it is.
@@judeplante6241 Thanks mate, I’m using the Disney and other apps so to get the Dolby atmos sound I need the eARC when linking to a denon amp. I actually got the LG GX sound bar and sub for free with the tv worth £1k that I’m going to be ebaying as simply have no need. Actually installing my tv now with help from the Mrs which is fun. Cheers for the feedback, hope my journey goes as smooth 👍
Would love to see a video on your thoughts on OLED's from a few years ago up to this year. Got an A80J last year for fairly cheap, and I'm interested how much of a leap it would be moving up to an A80L or C3
@@MistyKathrine no it wouldn't, that's huge at 16:9. Would be ridiculous to use as a monitor. Just buy the Asus OLED w/ MLA, or the QD OLED ultrawides.
I have the s95b with warranty and can say if I keep getting green or red screen overlays that make me do a manual pixel refresh to correct, it will probably be going back at some point for an lg. I've had it happen about 4 times in a 4 month old tv. When that is not going on the tv is excellent in every way.
@@NexGenTek This is my second s95b, the first one just completely shut down and would cycle the power on and off until I unplugged it. 3 or 4 times I've turned the new one on now it has a 3/4 screen green "overlay", I guess I would call it, just a green film you can see the background image through it's just covered in a bright green. Once it happened with 1/4 of the screen in red, same thing. No idea what would cause it, but the only way I have been able to get rid of it is do a manual pixel refresh.
I believe the G3 is nerfed in filmaker mode to preserve "accuracy". If you switch to another mode like cinema home and turn on dynamic tone mapping and expression enhancer brightness, it gets significantly brighter.
I feel like the giveaway for which is the qdled is looking at the blacks. The g3 has pure black, and little to no visible haloing, the qdleds have washed out dark grays and obvious haloing. After knowing what blacks look like on an oled, it's pretty easy to notice qdleds even without a separate point of reference.
Great video! Really valuable insight in this video, and I loved the approach you took. These two TV’s have polarized the AV space, and its fighting and bickering all day, everyday lol. I find it quite amusing tho, as someone who know how little difference there actually is in real world content….yet how BIG of a difference certain sides will claim. Good ole fanboyism at play… So….can we ever get ASBL and ABL nomenclature right one day please lol?!? You called ASBL ABL in this video. Again…. I believe I was the one who sent you the specific examples of what causes ASBL dimming on LG OLED’s, way back in the day, when I was fighting it on a CX. It particularly happens in near dark, low stimulus scenes that have a constant APL, with little to no change, in HDR and DoVi. Not SDR. I can provide you with a list of films/shows, and time stamps of movies which does cause this ASBL dimming (in the past at least). LG addressed this on the 3 series tho, when they removed the TPC option. Now what people are experiencing on the G3/C3 is the GSR dimming, which slowly dims static elements. TPC dims even moving objects, and was the root cause of the low light scenes dimming in the past. It’s why both TPC and GSR are disabled on my C2. Btw, it’s kinda funny that the LG OLEDs are the TV’s that get more “poppy and vivid” (when using the modes like Cinema Home) LG’s really trying to reel in the Samsung fans lol. And I can’t lie…sometimes I do prefer that overbrightened image, and I do find the brighter modes on LG’s to make HDR a lot easier to watch in bright rooms. (Not intended) I mean…measure DoVi CH….that shit overtracks like 🦆…. But it’s definitely useful in certain scenarios. It will borderline blind you in a dark room too lol. As far as having good low luminance color, where you said something to the effect it doesn’t matter…well there sir. I think even you have forgotten that HDR isn’t only about brightness, but maintaining better detail in near black/dark scenes, which include low luminance colors. I know everyone only cares about high luminance, high purity colors these days…but low level shouldn’t be ignored imo, as it is part of what makes HDR….HDR.
Buhaha 😹 The great tv expert prefers overbrightened image 🤭 And..... watching hdr in bright room 🤣 LMAO 😂 BTW How is the impression of downgrade 👇 build quality in c2? 😸
Options are always good for us consumers (although these are not exactly cheap options). Great to hear there's not too much difference between all these, at least picture-wise. Means I don't have to regret my S95B too much, if at all! Amazing video as always, Caleb!
We've become conditioned to thinking there's a justifiable improvement in year on year models but I really don't think TVs fit into this category at all. You've bought one of 2022s best TV sets. I think you'll be good for the next 5yrs easily.
It's called you get what you pay for. Also, these TV's would be even MORE expensive if they didn't come with ads inside the OS. You should be grateful these are affordable unlike Micro LED TV's.
I wish that you would have done more comparisons between the LG G3 and the Sony A95K. Most of yours used the Samsung S95B and there are differences between it and the A95K.
I can't wait to see the comparisons between the G3 and the newer QD-OLEDs. HDTV Test just did a video on this. It is clear you can't really go wrong with the QD-OLEDs or the LG G3. I'm curious, will there be a separate review of the LG G3 83" since it doesn't have MLA?
@@jarekzahary HDTV Test made a video on 4/4 titled "LG G3 MLA OLED Review (vs Samsung QD-OLED + LG G2)" He was comparing the G3 to the S90C as well as the LG G2. I don't think the S95C is available to purchase where he is yet.
hi digital trens, i like your content and when you testing the new oled from sony the A80l ??? Very great work from you and thank you for all this videos and information over the newest multimedia technolgy :)
Any plans to review the LG Z2 or Z3? Apparently the Z2 was the 2022 Shootout winner, but finding quality reviews on it is difficult. Trying to see how it stacks up to the Samsung Q900C.
Hi DT hope your well ,I'm watching this video comparison as I've just bought an LG G3 ,I'm so excited ,thanks for.helpong me choose , I'm not wall mounting it ,is the stand that bad? Thanks again 👍
I have the S95C, S95B andG2 and i can say that the S95C is on another level in HDR and even SDR. Don’t know why the G2 is so dim with Nintendo Switch compared to the S95B and S95C
G2 has peak brightness lock in sdr game mode as if you hadn't noticed 😅 BTW how is the impression of bend panel with terrible tizen and low luminance color? 😂
@@jarekzahary haha you sound like a LG fanboy. I had no problems, but the S95C is much sturdier build than S95B. And i have grown to like Tizen. You clearly haven’t seen the S95C irl, i’m sure you will be convinced
With my LG C8 I got constant ABL dimming issues playing Cyberpunk 2077 (menus) as well as games like The Quarry, even in regular play, as it has many not black but very dark scenes that seems to really screw with ABL. Bugged me so much in numerous games I bought the service menu remote to remove it.
I replaced my Sony KDl52XBR2 with a Sony A80K and am not looking back or forward, Im so happy with the new TV as long as it lasts should be my last one. I stopped chasing tech years ago it doesn't pay.
Great video. The s95b is so much cheaper here this has convinced me to get it. I'll be replacing am ancient Panasonic gt30 so I'm sure I'll be blown away!
I've been waiting years for a tv that checks all the boxes and has all the latest and greatest tech in it. Then I say to myself that if I wait until next year "this will be better than last year" or "they will be using a new technology next year". If I keep doing that, I'll never get myself a new TV. Just saying that myself and everyone that wants a new TV should just jump in a get the best option at the time for them. Otherwise, we'll just keep waiting and waiting for a tv that's coming next year. There are a bunch of great options from last year's 2022 and this year's 2023 tv's.
Good job Caleb and team. Over all, I am not a fan of unboxing…. So I like the revised format. Fwiw, other people do such videos and you guys do not add a particular added value. I think your strong suit is the actual product review. just my opinion since you asked ❤
First S95b burn in after 8 months. Normal content, no static just yt 4 hours a day. Second one got damaged screen by itself, like Tech giant got 3 times!!! Took c2 as replacement, never look back
LGs ABL has been an issue for a while, I'm pretty sure the one of the recent updates for the C2 was for a ABL bug. I used an engineering remote to turn it off completely on my C1 and I find it really aggravating that doing so voided my warranty. I use my C1 as a monitor for my gaming PC and run dark mode in everything, including a fully modified windows 11, and the C1 ABL simply couldn't handle it. It would dim at times and never recover brightness, I was force to pull up a video or full color web page before the software would respond. I understand the reasoning for the function but, while I still used it, the implementation was overly active in dark scenes and started way to soon in other stationary bright scenes, so much so it interfered with use. I don't think users should be punished for needing to disable a software function, a warning that your display won't be covered by warranty for burn-in if you choose to disable this function would be more reasonable. I shouldn't need an engineering remote and a complete loss of warranty to have a normal user experience. The C1 is an awesome monitor otherwise, so much so its hard to imagine needing to upgrade unless voiding that warranty comes back to bite me.
For my particular use case in a bright natural light room, watching a lot of terrestrial SDR content, APL brightness and blacks are high on my priority list, which points me towards one of these TVs in particular. Thanks for the review & comparison.
Can’t wait until you are able to compare the G3 to Samsungs 2023 models. I’ve noticed in the UK spec TVs Samsung has removed the Freesat tuners in their new 2023 models I suspect it’s a cost saving exercise but I do wonder what else is now no longer included.
@@jarekzahary sure you read it so it must be true. People who so blindly take a negative or positive stand out reasoning makes me 🤢🤮. I know from experience from my monitor and my friends tv that it’s definitely not true what you are saying.. but no No wait all the expert reviews are wrong and you are right. There there kid you are right now go get a cookie
'Time to buy a super premium(pricey) tv?' I will never do that as I'm fine with lower level oled's and mid priced qled's/ mini-leds. I've got an A2 for my bedroom and it's fantastic to my eyes. I also own a LG qned85 mini led and I'm very pleased with it. I'm sure if I put a G3 next to them I would see a difference but for me paying hundreds more..... It's not worth it. I think I probably fall into a pretty large chunk of the market but obviously there is a market for the super premium tv's. And for those people......go for it. Good video btw.
To me at this point we have to ask which is most colour accurate though perhaps you don't care so much about colour accuracy and are happy to see a more vivid image. Aside from this, I would be looking at the practical aspects such as how well it performs for PC gaming, how many HDMI (Arc) connections does it have and how accessible are they? Does it have USB C? If so, are they powered and what charge? Are they easily accessible from the side of the tv? How nice is the operating system? What about the remote, is it illuminated? Whats the speaker sound quality like, can we connect a powered subwoofer. Lots of considerations outside of perceived image quality and price is always a factor. If the Samsung is $1,500 cheaper you could afford to add an SVS powered subwoofer...So many questions.
Good video, and great "balance" in comparing the small details against what a general consumer will "see" when they buy one or the other. Yes, there are gamers complaining about the flaws in the G3's Game Optimizer Picture Mode and settings, and hopefully LG will rectify soon (else those very demanding gamers will trade over to the Samsung team). Clearly both last years S95B and this year's G3 are bright, beautiful TVs. But ... still waiting to see who wins the "post-calibration accuracy" battle of 2023 models. Staying tuned to Digital Trends....
I'm so glad you gave a realistic versus roundup. Honestly, I think mid-tier and above OLEDs are very good viewing experiences in today's market. Like you stated, if you aren't doing a side by side comparison, it's hard to tell the differences with flagships. I bought a Sony A80K 77 OLED right before OD-OLED released and I couldn't be happier. I know the benefits of QD-OLED versus older WOLD like the A80K, but I'm honestly already super happy with my A80K and I'm a premium/high end fanatic. Thank you for your realistic review and suggestions!
Love my s95b, but the ABL really kicked in frequently when I was watching The Whale. Had to bring up the settings menu several times throughout the movie
I recently purchased the LG C2 48 inch as my daily driver for my computer / streaming / everything work horse. Over all it's just amazing, but yes the dimming comes in way to fast and is annoying. I have to grab a computer window and do the shake shake to brighten back up. I need to research how to extend the stay bright option. When I get my new place I will definitely lean heavily on the LG G series TV's for my theater experience. Right now I have to get ready for the world wide financial collapse we are getting into. So unfortunate.
I would love to see a video on home cinema speaker setup value/mid/premium recommendations for the flagship TVs of the year, ie. LG G3 & Sony A95L. Especially given both of these act as a centre channel in the right set ups. Personally I’m considering the G3 and interested in value/mid recommendations for a setup that works well with this TV, taking advantage of using the TV as a centre channel.
I'm glad lg fought back. I thought I had to go from c9 to qd oled but I love my magic remote. Input button, lg interface and settings. Every yeah the g series has had one thing less then samsung and this time now its 144hz. A mid gen console refresh should do 144, and the g4 might be the best upgrade. Only 12 bit colour would be the next gen tech.
I'm watching this on a super boosted S95B pushing 1500 nits and tweaked to crystal clear 3D perfection, I'm quite happy with this for the next 5 years till they find a way to integrate the new brighter organic component available today, with MLA along with a heatsink that actually gets put to good use on a next level QD-OLED panel, then I'll step up to that beauty 😁
@@jaynotification I expect that and then some, even with the boost, 1 million hours of life for QD-OLEDs translates to 10 times your traditional WRGB OLED, with my boost in place I'm looking at about twice the brightness as a C1, which lasted roughly 4 years before having issues, even if I cut that in half, 2 times 10 is 20 years, throw in estimated accelerated decay from increased heat and extended use and I'm likely to see about 5 years out of her at least, I could be wrong but the math feels right and I've been boosted for 4 or 5 months now with zero burn in or drops in brightness, that's also with auto dimming disabled and me carelessly falling asleep from time to time and waking up to a static screen asking if I'm still watching, I run burn in pattern tests regularly and she's still mint 👌
Love your videos! I have a Sony x950H and bought the S95B but ended up returning it. Streaming HD exposed detail loss and poor SD color performance even against my older TV. The Sony A95K arrives tomorrow! Was torn hearing about the G3, but for the much lower price of the Sony and incredible reviews it has received, seemed the better choice. Hope so!
It's impossible for the Sony x950h and your older tv to have better color than the qd oled. Your s95b must have had some issue with the color unless you were referring to color accuracy.
@@lewisevander Yes, was speaking color accuracy and the older TV was the X950H. It is known for excellent overall picture minus the blooming...Thank you, appreciate your feedback :)
S95 b shows great in near blacks. So many details. But content should be full hd and higher) My previous tv was xh 9505, it had great upscaling , but s95b just beating him up
Hey everyone! Thanks for all the great comments. Seems like a lot of folks disappointed no MLA in 83-inch. What if I said I don’t think the 83 needs it. Wanna know why? How about why MLA would do nothing at all for QD-OLED, that sound interesting? Sound off and let me know!
77 needs it but 83 doesn’t?😅
am curious if the c3 will have the same tech given its the more affordable option of the two
I am curious about both those things. Why doesn’t the 83 need MLA? Why would having both MLA and QD-OLED do nothing at all? Great questions for me.
So an 83 inch A90J would still be worth considering?
More like LG didn’t have a reason to do MLA for 83”maybe, since the new qd oleds not coming in 83”. No competition!
Great video guys! We just wanted to pop in to clarify that we haven't received the LG G3 we bought for testing yet, so it's not actually part of our Longevity Test. If there's enough interest though, we would definitely consider adding the G3 to the Longevity Test once we finish testing it and publish our review!
100% ! When I get back from overseas in a year I want to make the perfect buying decision. I've seen just how amazing oled with my samsung phone and my LED TV is just not cutting especially with the gray blacks😢
Good to know 😅 I don't have to check about yours g3 review everyday 🤭
It's definitely of interest. Hope it joins the longevity test after you get it and review it first
I'm very much interested in knowing how the G3 compares to other premium panels.
You still doing these "Geez I wonder if it gonna burn in if I turn cnn on 24/7 ingenious test"
I quite enjoy these VS videos. Nicely done, keep them coming!
Since I am planning to upgrade my TV soon I have been watching a lot of videos. I am on a watching spree of your videos and I am amazed really. I have learned so much in a very short time. One of the most deserving subs I ever gave.
Your videos and the questions you ask are always ON POINT! That's why I click !
The G3 handles well against the S95C. Surprisingly so. All round the G3 came out throwing blows. Sony is now the dark horse. If they continue to focus on image accuracy rather than brightness then this year it will be pricing wars. All these tvs are amazing. Saw last year’s A95K and S95B at Best Buy also G2 and they are all close in my opinion. Granted can’t study them like you can Caleb but the differences between each as you pointed out isn’t night and day. I’m not a gamer at all but I’m leaning towards the 77” G3. Overall it has the goods.
A GREAT & HONEST comparison... I liked that you factored in TINT and COLOR also in the comparison. Thanks for you unbiased analysis...you do an OUTSTANDING job with all of your video.
This dude knows what he's doing.. His reviews are truly spectacular.. Like thinking out of the box and compare 2022 Qdoleds and show us the improvement.. Good job
Have you never heard of HDTVTest?
Wow you weren't kidding about the vs videos, this was way faster than I expected! Hoping once Sony gets off their rumps and releases their 2023 lineups you'll do a comparison between the X90L and the previous X90K as well as up against another brand's high end FALD (not mini LED) model. Sony seems very proud of their X90L this year and I'd like to see just how improved it really is
I’ll sure do what I can but it’s rare I get to hang on to the prior years’ TVs for this long. The two QD-OLEDs here are the only 2022 TVs still here!
I am eagerly looking forward to the 90L review as well!
Don’t expect much from x90L as according to Sony it’s more or less last years x95k. New x95L will be the improved version of the latter - but improved at best and not a game changer. New OLEDs for sizes 77” and below are the best TV choice you can go for. Whether 8” is sufficient difference over 77” at worse PQ will be a question comparisons will answer.
This was excellent!!! I am so glad you compared the G3 against the S95B plus a little of the A95K. This is what I was hoping for!! Big thumbs up!! Even though I do wish the A95K was compared just a little bit more, but maybe there just wasn’t that much of a difference between the two 2022 qd-oleds?😀
Great video Caleb. A comparison of motion handling and processing between QD-OLED and MLA would also be interesting... maybe once all the 2023 models are out!
Hello Caleb, thank you so much for the incredible amount of knowledge you have shared over time regarding different TV's and why we should or shouldn't by them. I truly appreciate what you do and I think you have one of the coolest jobs in the world! Since becoming a subscriber of your channel I have made a decision that I am going to purchase an LG C2 because of its features that matter to me most and because of budget. Before discovering your channel I had no real data to inform my TV purchases other than brand awareness. Please keep doing what you do and helping the average consumer make very informed purchasing decisions! Like Sy Sims slogan used to say, "an educated consumer is our best customer."
Liking this video, and the one prior. You're quickly becoming a nice addition to Vincent Teoh's excellent reviews.
This is exactly the type of content I want, Caleb!
Hopefully when you review the S95C, you can redo this comparison with that TV. Maybe mention gaming and audio differences as well. This review seemed more tech vs tech rather than TV vs TV. Both are useful comparisons though.
I got the Samsung S95B and i am not gonna to upgrade the next coming 5 years. Super happy with this one
I've had the LG C8 for over 4 years now, and the only reason I will upgrade is if it dies - I see no other reason to upgrade in the next five years.
Sure the new OLEDs/QD-OLEDs are brighter etc, but it's only marginal in the real world (without having multiple TV-s side by side imho).
The C8 still provides absolutely stellar image quality imho.
@@Kristjan_N it does
Yeah, great TV as long as it lasts. I wouldn't hold my breath about those 5 years unless you got an extended warranty.
I just picked up an open box Samsung 65 inch S95B for $1300 in excellent condition. I’ve owned 2 55 inch LG’s that let me down. One power issues and the next sound issues. So far very pleased with my Samsung. I’m not a big gamer and we use it more for streaming movies and regular programming. Time will tell if I ever go back to LG.
Sound issues? You buy a $1500 tv and skimp on a soundbar?
Very pleased of what? 😅 Bend panel 😹 Greyish black in bright room? 🤣 Handicapped tizen? 😂 Maybe extremely desaturated colors in low light scenes? 😆
@@levb4913 sound issues meaning NO SOUND FROM TV or SOUND BAR!!!
@jarekzahary why are U under every comment where someone likes their samsung tv?! we get it you hate samsung but millions love them which is why they are the #1 tv seller for 17 years in a row now!
for me opposite all Samsung devices end up refurbished you see they are all the same
So excited for your Versus reviews!!
Got my g3 65” arriving tomorrow…. Fingers crossed I’ve ordered wisely 😂
I think you've done well, from what I've read and know, I don't think you can go wrong with the LG MLA or the Sony/Samsung QD-OLEDS. It seems like they'll all be fairly close in picture quality. Enjoy your new TV.
@@carlcat thanks bud 👍
I purchased the Sony QD Oled A95K but ended up sending it back and kept my LG C9 Oled. The reason was due to the raised grey when my blinds were up and that time of day when sunlight hit it. That’s not the case with LG Oled and it surprised me with such an expensive TV. My take is until QD Oled solves that issue it’s a no go.
Could watch your content for days Caleb! you always do an unbiased review which I trust so keep the content coming and i'll keep consuming lol!
The LG G3 offers a 5 year panel warranty that includes burn in. Something to consider. I bought an 83" non mla set, and it's beautiful. Size maaters and at 3700 out the door I am happy.
Hard fight both TVs are so close it's like identical twins, but it's a tough decision made easy (for me anyway). Without a second thought in an instant I would go with the LG period. Easy decision that's based on LGs features, reliability and track record for pushing out updates, even to this day they are still pushing out updates to some of their older but still good models. No contest here!
First of all, thank you for the great reviews I always watch - Caleb you are great to watch. For AVL, where I have seen the significant difference was playing madden on A LG C9 vs the samsung S95b. With the C9, after playing (and playing the whole time) - the C9 will dim and brighten the picture while within the game. On the Samsung s95b, it never dims while playing. I know the c9 is a few years old, but that is when ABL completely is annoying and way better for our use case.
I have the S95B and just got the G3. When I compared them in Hdr, I noticed that the S95b pushed highlight brightness more, especially colored highlights, but the G3 had much better high apl scene brightness. The G3 handles skin tones better and doesn't loose as much saturation in low light scenes, but the G3 also exhibits more low light artifacts, banding, flickering, and some areas can looked raised compared to the S95B. Now, with dynamic tone mapping the G3 is unbeatable, for demo content it's really unbelievable how bright this thing can get, I can't watch movies with those settings, but if I feel like wowing myself I set in my custom vivid mode, with Dtm on, dynamic contrast at medium, expression enhancer on detail, color 65 and warm 50. The s95b can't reach the heights this tv can get, but outside of these modes, the s95b looked better for most hdr content on the standard mode.
In Sdr the G3 is a much brighter tv, and funny enough samsung nerfed the sdr brightness in the fmm/movie modes, so I'm now using standard which gets much brighter. Standard mode on the S95b has a really cool version of contrast enhancer that gets rid of that lifted look when set to low. It basically deepens the shadows and tries to give a 3d effect, the G3 does have a settings like this, but you loose some color and blacks get crushed, so the best settings to use to mimic the samsung is to just lower the black level from 50 to 42. I know purists would probably scoff at that, but in sdr it leads to a much more consistent image, and avoids most problems you could have in dark sdr scenes, flicker, banding, etc. So by just lowering the black level, I was able to match the g3 to the s95b and also found that the color handling was much better and skin tones again looked great. On the processing side for sdr, I believe the Samsung is better at cleaning up unwanted artifacts, but I also noticed that it would almost completely remove film grain, if the source wasn't 4k, but in dark scenes the samsung is better at removing noise and banding. The G3 has many more options, but I found that the only one worth using was smooth gradation and I would honestly just max it out, if you mainly stream fhd content. Noise reduction did nothing for me and mpeg noise reduction would take away fine detail, even in 4k content. Sharpness I keep between 10-20. I'd say motion is equal on both tv's, I noticed almost the same amount of stutters, the G3 would have less new scene stutters, but would than stutter randomly in the middle of the scene, and samsung stutter at the beginning of every new panning scene, but is consistent after that.
Gaming, For HDR they're both great, you loose some color brightness on the G3, but you can easily switch to another mode and get it back. Highlights get brighter on the G3, but most scenes look a little darker, but there is more contrast and even a nicer 3 dimensionality to the G3. In Sdr the G3 is unnecessarily capped In its brightness and I needed to fix it, or I would've thrown it out lol. I had to download an app on my pc and connect it to the g3 to unlock the peak brightness setting, which is just so dumb on lg's part... After that it looks great and I really appreciate the accurate representation that lg gives even in game mode and again, you can use fmm mode to get the color brightness back. Imo, the g3 shouldn't be this finicky for gaming, the samsung does everything exactly as it should and the G3 should to. Both the S95B and G3 are great for Hdr gaming and I'd be happy with either, Sdr requires tweaks to the g3 for it to be viable, so I'd say it's worse for sdr gaming, but the option to fix it is there.
Great video Caleb, both TVs look amazing, I guess we'll have to consider other features to make a good decision between both of them. Loved the video.!!
Thanks Joelster! Always great to see you here in the comments. Keep up with your great content!
After watching 5 of your videos, I went from confused to ready to make a decision to confused again to ready to make a different choice. which sounds confusing but honestly I don’t think it matters which one I go with. But I’m getting the LG G3. So thank you for that.
An excellent point regarding how we perceive our images. I’ve seen a C2 that, from my perspective, doesn’t seem particularly better than my CX does. I’ve seen the G2 at my local store, but thought the Sony A95K looked far superior to my eyes.
Whilst the G3 looks the business, I really want to see the 2023 Samsung and Sony QD-OLEDS before I can definitely say which type is better.
For auto dim testing use the dark episodes from game of thrones. It was so dark that you couldn't tell what was on screen and the OLED made it even darker when it auto dimmed. Made me break down and buy the service remote to fix it. Hasn't been an issue since I turned it off
Yes! I had the same problem while watching GOT on my S95B. The image would get darker and darker until I touched the remote and pulled up the TV menu. Like you, I went into the service menu and disabled the feature.
Service remote not necessary for accessing the service menu.
I like the way you do your videos man. Also thank you for not telling us to like and subscribe, that is so refreshing.
My issue with Samsung is the horrible support I've received over the years and the fact that they don't care about image accuracy the same way LG does with the correct HDR curves and, HGiG for gaming and MadVR's Envy, etc. I wish there was more competition in this space, but it's always coming down to LG.
That’s the truth !
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I believe MLA technology was previously used in 8K Z-series TVs. Maybe they rushed with implementation of MLA for mainstream TVs like G-series but it was not completely new stuff for LG.
When do the 2023 QD models release? Can't wait for that content!!
Great video. Comparison videos are the best way to make informed decisions when buy a TV. Loved it!!!!!
I always like your content my man! Been a subscriber for a couple of years now! Keep going! 💪🏻
Thank goodness for the return of versus vids!! Hoping for some lcd versus vids too
For me this is exactly what I am looking for when comparing something - two similar technologies etc... Thanks for this!!!
I bought the s95b 65” last year and I love it and I play games and so far no burn in
My setup is LG C2 60’ paired with Samsung Q930b soundbar and must say its my best setup i ever had. Would be awesome if u could do more reviews on sounbars
Here's two realistic scenarios I run into ABL on LG OLED: in Dune when Paul and his mother meet the Fremen at night, the scenes have similar colors and brightness so ABL kicks in making it near impossible to see.
Playing MMOs and scrolling through menus (e.x. managing inventory, looking at wardrobe etc.) Enough of the screen doesn't change so ABL kicks in and I have to wiggle a menu around to get the brightness back.
Proud owner of C1 but QD-Oled is a game changer. I’m gonna wait for Sony A95l to make my mind between S95c or Sony.
My son got a 77" LG OLED... the WebOS drove me nuts visiting him. If I got one, I would just hook up my Nvidia Shield (which is less nuts driving....).
I really like this content. Thank you Caleb
A great video to do would be a comparison between older tv (I have a 65c8 that I am upgrading to the g3) as people could see what they would now be getting over tech that is 3,4 or 5 years old. Quite a few of us I reckon 👍
Keep up the awesome work, love your reports. Cheers 🍻
I just did exactly what you are doing: 65C8 to 77G3. Delivered and mounted yesterday.
@@judeplante6241 awesome, is it a major improvement? I have very high hopes. Even having the eARC will be a good upgrade. Cheers
@@jasonkennedy2045 The luminance is VERY obvious. So is the rich color. I'm still very much in tweaking mode. Out of box is 'fine'. Trying Classy's settings. Still a little dark for my taste and still seeing some black crush (which to be fair, if RTINGS is to be believed our C8 was better with black crush than C1-2 and G1-2) so maybe not surprised G3 is a little shadow darker?
I am ashamed to say I don't have eARC sound bar (I mistakenly bought Sammy HW-950N right before eARC came out). I am $1600 into a great sound bar and cringe at thought of paying $1299 for same brand S95QR to get eARC. Especially since Andrew Robinson did 20+ minutes on how BAD it is.
@@judeplante6241 Thanks mate, I’m using the Disney and other apps so to get the Dolby atmos sound I need the eARC when linking to a denon amp. I actually got the LG GX sound bar and sub for free with the tv worth £1k that I’m going to be ebaying as simply have no need.
Actually installing my tv now with help from the Mrs which is fun. Cheers for the feedback, hope my journey goes as smooth 👍
Would love to see a video on your thoughts on OLED's from a few years ago up to this year. Got an A80J last year for fairly cheap, and I'm interested how much of a leap it would be moving up to an A80L or C3
None. Your leap would be in the S90C a far superior TV
The best tech TH-cam channel around. No BS. No clickbait thumbnails. Just great content.
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G3 with all the gaming capabilities is a great investment once we start seeing some sales come up this fall
The 55'' G3 would make an amazing PC monitor.
@@MistyKathrine no it wouldn't, that's huge at 16:9. Would be ridiculous to use as a monitor. Just buy the Asus OLED w/ MLA, or the QD OLED ultrawides.
G series don't get the best discounts tbh
@@syed2694 I use the C1 55''. It's amazing.
Yeah only Shame is lack of 144, and I think mid gen console refresh like ps5 pro and series x pro should do 144.
Dont wait...life is short get it now...still perfectly happy with my old LG E6 oled which i have beeen enjoying for past 6-7 yrs
Great comparison Caleb! Keep up the good work!
I have the s95b with warranty and can say if I keep getting green or red screen overlays that make me do a manual pixel refresh to correct, it will probably be going back at some point for an lg. I've had it happen about 4 times in a 4 month old tv. When that is not going on the tv is excellent in every way.
Never seen had it since release
@@NexGenTek This is my second s95b, the first one just completely shut down and would cycle the power on and off until I unplugged it. 3 or 4 times I've turned the new one on now it has a 3/4 screen green "overlay", I guess I would call it, just a green film you can see the background image through it's just covered in a bright green. Once it happened with 1/4 of the screen in red, same thing. No idea what would cause it, but the only way I have been able to get rid of it is do a manual pixel refresh.
I believe the G3 is nerfed in filmaker mode to preserve "accuracy". If you switch to another mode like cinema home and turn on dynamic tone mapping and expression enhancer brightness, it gets significantly brighter.
I feel like the giveaway for which is the qdled is looking at the blacks. The g3 has pure black, and little to no visible haloing, the qdleds have washed out dark grays and obvious haloing. After knowing what blacks look like on an oled, it's pretty easy to notice qdleds even without a separate point of reference.
So where was the G3 - A95K comparison?? Didn’t you say that was going to be included at the beginning of the video?
Fantastic video! You compared all the important points and so glad you referenced the recent burn-in research taking place.
Great video! Really valuable insight in this video, and I loved the approach you took. These two TV’s have polarized the AV space, and its fighting and bickering all day, everyday lol. I find it quite amusing tho, as someone who know how little difference there actually is in real world content….yet how BIG of a difference certain sides will claim. Good ole fanboyism at play…
So….can we ever get ASBL and ABL nomenclature right one day please lol?!? You called ASBL ABL in this video. Again….
I believe I was the one who sent you the specific examples of what causes ASBL dimming on LG OLED’s, way back in the day, when I was fighting it on a CX. It particularly happens in near dark, low stimulus scenes that have a constant APL, with little to no change, in HDR and DoVi. Not SDR.
I can provide you with a list of films/shows, and time stamps of movies which does cause this ASBL dimming (in the past at least). LG addressed this on the 3 series tho, when they removed the TPC option. Now what people are experiencing on the G3/C3 is the GSR dimming, which slowly dims static elements. TPC dims even moving objects, and was the root cause of the low light scenes dimming in the past. It’s why both TPC and GSR are disabled on my C2.
Btw, it’s kinda funny that the LG OLEDs are the TV’s that get more “poppy and vivid” (when using the modes like Cinema Home) LG’s really trying to reel in the Samsung fans lol. And I can’t lie…sometimes I do prefer that overbrightened image, and I do find the brighter modes on LG’s to make HDR a lot easier to watch in bright rooms. (Not intended) I mean…measure DoVi CH….that shit overtracks like 🦆…. But it’s definitely useful in certain scenarios. It will borderline blind you in a dark room too lol.
As far as having good low luminance color, where you said something to the effect it doesn’t matter…well there sir. I think even you have forgotten that HDR isn’t only about brightness, but maintaining better detail in near black/dark scenes, which include low luminance colors. I know everyone only cares about high luminance, high purity colors these days…but low level shouldn’t be ignored imo, as it is part of what makes HDR….HDR.
Buhaha 😹 The great tv expert prefers overbrightened image 🤭 And..... watching hdr in bright room 🤣 LMAO 😂 BTW How is the impression of downgrade 👇 build quality in c2? 😸
Great job as always Caleb!
Can't wait for the X95L to be compared to everything.
Options are always good for us consumers (although these are not exactly cheap options). Great to hear there's not too much difference between all these, at least picture-wise. Means I don't have to regret my S95B too much, if at all! Amazing video as always, Caleb!
We've become conditioned to thinking there's a justifiable improvement in year on year models but I really don't think TVs fit into this category at all.
You've bought one of 2022s best TV sets. I think you'll be good for the next 5yrs easily.
If you got a S95B without any panel bending, you have one of the best TVs around. It's fine most of the time.
It's called you get what you pay for.
Also, these TV's would be even MORE expensive if they didn't come with ads inside the OS. You should be grateful these are affordable unlike Micro LED TV's.
I wish that you would have done more comparisons between the LG G3 and the Sony A95K. Most of yours used the Samsung S95B and there are differences between it and the A95K.
Yes ! Like Dolby vision on the Sony vs No Dolby vision on the s95b 🎉
You are right about other factors. Samsung not having Dolby Vision is a deal breaker for me.
I can't wait to see the comparisons between the G3 and the newer QD-OLEDs. HDTV Test just did a video on this. It is clear you can't really go wrong with the QD-OLEDs or the LG G3.
I'm curious, will there be a separate review of the LG G3 83" since it doesn't have MLA?
I feel if somone has 83inch money, the g4 next year should increase in mla sizes
He did not make any such video 😜 Actually qd-oled and g3 have too many flaws to pull trigger 😅
@@jarekzahary HDTV Test made a video on 4/4 titled "LG G3 MLA OLED Review (vs Samsung QD-OLED + LG G2)"
He was comparing the G3 to the S90C as well as the LG G2. I don't think the S95C is available to purchase where he is yet.
@@randallsmith2521 so? 😅 It clearly shows g3 flaws like low colour volume, greyish black in bright room, retention problem 😆
hi digital trens, i like your content and when you testing the new oled from sony the A80l ??? Very great work from you and thank you for all this videos and information over the newest multimedia technolgy :)
Any plans to review the LG Z2 or Z3? Apparently the Z2 was the 2022 Shootout winner, but finding quality reviews on it is difficult. Trying to see how it stacks up to the Samsung Q900C.
Hi DT hope your well ,I'm watching this video comparison as I've just bought an LG G3 ,I'm so excited ,thanks for.helpong me choose , I'm not wall mounting it ,is the stand that bad? Thanks again 👍
I have the S95C, S95B andG2 and i can say that the S95C is on another level in HDR and even SDR. Don’t know why the G2 is so dim with Nintendo Switch compared to the S95B and S95C
Does this go for movies as wel or just gaming ? Thanks
G2 has peak brightness lock in sdr game mode as if you hadn't noticed 😅 BTW how is the impression of bend panel with terrible tizen and low luminance color? 😂
@@redshine06 this is only with sdr gaming
@@jarekzahary haha you sound like a LG fanboy. I had no problems, but the S95C is much sturdier build than S95B. And i have grown to like Tizen. You clearly haven’t seen the S95C irl, i’m sure you will be convinced
loved this content, thanks :)
With my LG C8 I got constant ABL dimming issues playing Cyberpunk 2077 (menus) as well as games like The Quarry, even in regular play, as it has many not black but very dark scenes that seems to really screw with ABL. Bugged me so much in numerous games I bought the service menu remote to remove it.
Brilliant content, as always. Through yet accessible.
I just got my first OLED. A 65” LG C2 shipped and sold by Amazon for $1396 😎
g3 is much better
I replaced my Sony KDl52XBR2 with a Sony A80K and am not looking back or forward, Im so happy with the new TV as long as it lasts should be my last one. I stopped chasing tech years ago it doesn't pay.
Great video. The s95b is so much cheaper here this has convinced me to get it.
I'll be replacing am ancient Panasonic gt30 so I'm sure I'll be blown away!
I've been waiting years for a tv that checks all the boxes and has all the latest and greatest tech in it. Then I say to myself that if I wait until next year "this will be better than last year" or "they will be using a new technology next year". If I keep doing that, I'll never get myself a new TV. Just saying that myself and everyone that wants a new TV should just jump in a get the best option at the time for them. Otherwise, we'll just keep waiting and waiting for a tv that's coming next year. There are a bunch of great options from last year's 2022 and this year's 2023 tv's.
The c9 was the best oled for 4 years. G3 is a real upgrade but maby I hold out for g4 and 144hz
I use my lg c2 42" both for gaming and pc "monitor". Awesome tv/monitor!
Good job Caleb and team. Over all, I am not a fan of unboxing…. So I like the revised format. Fwiw, other people do such videos and you guys do not add a particular added value. I think your strong suit is the actual product review. just my opinion since you asked ❤
great video. will you do a video on how much better the G3 is to G2? is it worth upgrading?
Very good and easy to see the diffrence you are talking about exelent
First S95b burn in after 8 months. Normal content, no static just yt 4 hours a day. Second one got damaged screen by itself, like Tech giant got 3 times!!! Took c2 as replacement, never look back
LGs ABL has been an issue for a while, I'm pretty sure the one of the recent updates for the C2 was for a ABL bug. I used an engineering remote to turn it off completely on my C1 and I find it really aggravating that doing so voided my warranty. I use my C1 as a monitor for my gaming PC and run dark mode in everything, including a fully modified windows 11, and the C1 ABL simply couldn't handle it. It would dim at times and never recover brightness, I was force to pull up a video or full color web page before the software would respond. I understand the reasoning for the function but, while I still used it, the implementation was overly active in dark scenes and started way to soon in other stationary bright scenes, so much so it interfered with use. I don't think users should be punished for needing to disable a software function, a warning that your display won't be covered by warranty for burn-in if you choose to disable this function would be more reasonable. I shouldn't need an engineering remote and a complete loss of warranty to have a normal user experience. The C1 is an awesome monitor otherwise, so much so its hard to imagine needing to upgrade unless voiding that warranty comes back to bite me.
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Bless you man. Dig it
Still loving my Sony A90j 83in in my Theater Room
it's a Beast 💪
For my particular use case in a bright natural light room, watching a lot of terrestrial SDR content, APL brightness and blacks are high on my priority list, which points me towards one of these TVs in particular. Thanks for the review & comparison.
Can’t wait until you are able to compare the G3 to Samsungs 2023 models. I’ve noticed in the UK spec TVs Samsung has removed the Freesat tuners in their new 2023 models I suspect it’s a cost saving exercise but I do wonder what else is now no longer included.
Another great video, will wait for the Sony A95L comparison
Honestly better color sounds more appealing than just brighter
Qd-oled has terrible colors in low light scenes 🤮
@@jarekzahary sure you read it so it must be true. People who so blindly take a negative or positive stand out reasoning makes me 🤢🤮. I know from experience from my monitor and my friends tv that it’s definitely not true what you are saying.. but no No wait all the expert reviews are wrong and you are right. There there kid you are right now go get a cookie
The g3 is as colourfull as 2022 qd.
@@AzzaBro59 this is getting embarrassing please stop people are laughing at you..
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Nice review keep up the good work
'Time to buy a super premium(pricey) tv?' I will never do that as I'm fine with lower level oled's and mid priced qled's/ mini-leds. I've got an A2 for my bedroom and it's fantastic to my eyes. I also own a LG qned85 mini led and I'm very pleased with it. I'm sure if I put a G3 next to them I would see a difference but for me paying hundreds more..... It's not worth it. I think I probably fall into a pretty large chunk of the market but obviously there is a market for the super premium tv's. And for those people......go for it.
Good video btw.
Are you going to do the C3 Oled next?
I, for one, clap at Caleb’s excellent review. 👏👏👏
Great video! I’m trying to make this choice right now. I want the Sony qd OLED but damn are they pricey.
To me at this point we have to ask which is most colour accurate though perhaps you don't care so much about colour accuracy and are happy to see a more vivid image. Aside from this, I would be looking at the practical aspects such as how well it performs for PC gaming, how many HDMI (Arc) connections does it have and how accessible are they? Does it have USB C? If so, are they powered and what charge? Are they easily accessible from the side of the tv? How nice is the operating system? What about the remote, is it illuminated? Whats the speaker sound quality like, can we connect a powered subwoofer. Lots of considerations outside of perceived image quality and price is always a factor. If the Samsung is $1,500 cheaper you could afford to add an SVS powered subwoofer...So many questions.
Nice review. Still waiting for the new plasmas to come out.
Great job, nuanced and fair
Good video, and great "balance" in comparing the small details against what a general consumer will "see" when they buy one or the other. Yes, there are gamers complaining about the flaws in the G3's Game Optimizer Picture Mode and settings, and hopefully LG will rectify soon (else those very demanding gamers will trade over to the Samsung team).
Clearly both last years S95B and this year's G3 are bright, beautiful TVs. But ... still waiting to see who wins the "post-calibration accuracy" battle of 2023 models. Staying tuned to Digital Trends....
It's easy lg 😁 Shitsung doesn't have 3d lut 🤣
I'm so glad you gave a realistic versus roundup. Honestly, I think mid-tier and above OLEDs are very good viewing experiences in today's market. Like you stated, if you aren't doing a side by side comparison, it's hard to tell the differences with flagships. I bought a Sony A80K 77 OLED right before OD-OLED released and I couldn't be happier. I know the benefits of QD-OLED versus older WOLD like the A80K, but I'm honestly already super happy with my A80K and I'm a premium/high end fanatic. Thank you for your realistic review and suggestions!
Love my s95b, but the ABL really kicked in frequently when I was watching The Whale. Had to bring up the settings menu several times throughout the movie
I recently purchased the LG C2 48 inch as my daily driver for my computer / streaming / everything work horse. Over all it's just amazing, but yes the dimming comes in way to fast and is annoying. I have to grab a computer window and do the shake shake to brighten back up. I need to research how to extend the stay bright option. When I get my new place I will definitely lean heavily on the LG G series TV's for my theater experience. Right now I have to get ready for the world wide financial collapse we are getting into. So unfortunate.
There’s a way to disable the dimming. Look it up online or on TH-cam. You have to get into a secret menu to do it.
LG G3 VS QD OLED 2023 🔥
I would love to see a video on home cinema speaker setup value/mid/premium recommendations for the flagship TVs of the year, ie. LG G3 & Sony A95L. Especially given both of these act as a centre channel in the right set ups. Personally I’m considering the G3 and interested in value/mid recommendations for a setup that works well with this TV, taking advantage of using the TV as a centre channel.
I'm glad lg fought back. I thought I had to go from c9 to qd oled but I love my magic remote. Input button, lg interface and settings. Every yeah the g series has had one thing less then samsung and this time now its 144hz. A mid gen console refresh should do 144, and the g4 might be the best upgrade. Only 12 bit colour would be the next gen tech.
I'm watching this on a super boosted S95B pushing 1500 nits and tweaked to crystal clear 3D perfection, I'm quite happy with this for the next 5 years till they find a way to integrate the new brighter organic component available today, with MLA along with a heatsink that actually gets put to good use on a next level QD-OLED panel, then I'll step up to that beauty 😁
How did you get your s95b to 1500 nits? Are you on the day one firmware?
That’s if it lasts 5 years. My s95b is arriving on Wednesday- so nervous - hope there’s no quality issues 😂
@@jaynotification I expect that and then some, even with the boost, 1 million hours of life for QD-OLEDs translates to 10 times your traditional WRGB OLED, with my boost in place I'm looking at about twice the brightness as a C1, which lasted roughly 4 years before having issues, even if I cut that in half, 2 times 10 is 20 years, throw in estimated accelerated decay from increased heat and extended use and I'm likely to see about 5 years out of her at least, I could be wrong but the math feels right and I've been boosted for 4 or 5 months now with zero burn in or drops in brightness, that's also with auto dimming disabled and me carelessly falling asleep from time to time and waking up to a static screen asking if I'm still watching, I run burn in pattern tests regularly and she's still mint 👌
@@xintimidate I'm on firmware 1430, used service menu to boost the panel, I have detailed videos if interested
Love your videos! I have a Sony x950H and bought the S95B but ended up returning it. Streaming HD exposed detail loss and poor SD color performance even against my older TV. The Sony A95K arrives tomorrow! Was torn hearing about the G3, but for the much lower price of the Sony and incredible reviews it has received, seemed the better choice. Hope so!
It's impossible for the Sony x950h and your older tv to have better color than the qd oled. Your s95b must have had some issue with the color unless you were referring to color accuracy.
@@lewisevander Yes, was speaking color accuracy and the older TV was the X950H. It is known for excellent overall picture minus the blooming...Thank you, appreciate your feedback :)
S95 b shows great in near blacks. So many details. But content should be full hd and higher) My previous tv was xh 9505, it had great upscaling , but s95b just beating him up