I think some of the issues with Apple Watch are easily solved with 3rd party apps, like Atheletics for recovery, or Workoutdoors for routes, offline maps and great activity tracking. Apple Watch as a flashlight too. But yeah, the applewatch definitly sucks in terms of battery life
@@appartrivard-laurier6803but then again those apps are third party and are not smooth with apples software or even with Apple health . Unfortunately that’s why I didn’t like using the third party apps on Apple . Dual uploads to Strava a lot of times
I’ve used Garmin for 7+ years having multiple different watches. I’m a runner and cyclist and weekend hiker. I did love Garmin a long time. I had the Apple Watch Ultra 1 for about a week, but back then the OS was nowhere near close to Garmin in terms of fitness tracking. With Watch OS11, it is MUCH MUCH closer. I picked up the Ultra 2 in black and I think I’m done with Garmin forever. Imo, their software is incredibly buggy and slow for a $1000 watch, and now that Apple has closed the gap enough, it just doesn’t make sense for me to use Garmin anymore.
wow I have the complete opposite opinion... After 7 years using Apple Watch (S1, 2, and 5) I am donde with AW... lack of physiological parameters with use for Athletes, lack of Topological maps for real navigation, and specially lack of an useful battery (Life, and health: since it is necessary to charge it daily all series will degrade around 1000 cycles or 2-3 years depending on use... I ask: what happens if you charge your Garmin watch ONCE PER MONTH? the likely answer is: A lot of years of potential use. However, granted, I have not used the Ultra 1 or 2, or WatchOS 11... so what Garmin Watch did you had? (I am aiming for the Forerunner 955, Fenix 7 Pro, Fenix 8 Solar or Enduro 3) it is really that bad? As I said, I am eager to run away from Apple Watch limitations. Thanks.
the same story :) but I tried garmen fenix 8 for a week and was already done with Garmin 😅fenix 8 costed to me 1.2k$ in Europe, and it's too expensive for such a weak watch. I had worst user experience with such an expensive device ever. The flow of configuring watch face downloaded from ConnectIQ made me laugh out laud, I felt myself back to 2000s 😁btw @TheQuantifiedScientist makes a lot of testing sensors of different wearables (Apple Watch, Garmin, many others). Garmin is not that good for measuring health data in comparation with Apple Watch, according to him. And the difference is significant, counting that Apple Watch Ultra 2 costs almost 300$ cheepier then fenix 8 with titanium frame and sapphire glass. Yeah, probably Garmin could make more sense for guys who need a solid battery life, in this case Garmin much better, but I'm not such a guys. And maybe some professional sportsman's may find Garmin more convenient for the training, but it's debatable.
Not sure if you know this but there’s an app called Athlytic and you can have almost the same data as on a Garmin in terms of recovery, sleep and so on
That’s my experience after 7 years with Garmin. Fed up with the software experience. Every single update breaks something and then it takes forever for them to fix it. The watch is laggy and slow, and imo Garmin hasn’t innovated ANYTHING software wise for years. My Epix Pro 2 felt EXACTLY like my Fenix 5 did software wise.
@@mbrackmann8 this is why I sold my 965 then I bought the Epix pro g2 51mm thinking it would be better and yes exactly the same it's now up on fbmp for sale! ill never buy another Garmin watch ever.
this is the solo reason i gave up on it on the first 30 min of trying it i dont care if your data is 30% better than apple watch ultra but if im getting a high end smart watch in 2024, the app better not feel like 2010
Since I'm a senior with some health issues I use the Apple Watch since I think it is stronger in that departement. It is also better integrated with my other Apple products. However, when I play golf I use my Garmin watch and I'm impressed by the battery life. I tried golf apps on Apple Watch but the battery barely last a full round of golf. No issue with the Garmin. At least 70 % battery left after a round.
Completely agree! The amoled Garmin's are a good balance offering most of the smartwatch features, but with tons of training data! I also didn't think I would be using the flashlight, but every time I try to go back to a normal smartwatch, the on screen one just doesn't compare. If you're not a smartwatch super-user, Garmin will provide most of the information that you need!
Great video! Just a quick note regarding the Garmin's being "not as smart" - they do have two models that support taking phone calls (Venu 3 and Fenix 8) and many more that support responding to messages directly on device, however, these functions are only available when paired to an Android phone due to artificial limitations on Apple's side. Apple intentionally limits integration with third-party accessories to help sell more Apple Watches.
the thing about the AWU is it has cellular without having to have your phone in your pocket or anywhere near you.....Garmin doesn't have that yet and probably never will because of battery drain, they would no longer be able to claim longest batter life!
@@davidbraswell1481 no they did make a cellular watch a couple of years back. I think its discontinued now though, not sure if it just didnt sell or what. But I mean lets be honest, if the fenix/epix is your type of watch and you really want to take a "phone" with you, if you can afford the 1000k price you can almost certainly stretch to the cheapest AW cellular to have in a pocket without a big phone flapping around.
Have you seen the Garmin forum how many complaints there are with ; low light condition issues, buggy widget apps, lag with swiping watchfaces, lag with loading maps, errors like crashing or freezing screens, slow CPU and RAM, no decent apps to download, .. I bought a 1200€ watch (Fenix 8) and it was so bad.. I also had the Epix Pro 2 and that one was a bit better but still not amazing..
@@Tha-King-Arthur mine is garbage I bought the 965 first it felt cheap and was off on the Metrix so i sold it went to the Epix pro g2 51mm and it was complete shit too the only thing I used thee most on the entire watch was the flash light it was never wrong and always came on!! back to the OG AWU g1 its an awesome watch with work out doors and Athlytic the watch smokes Garmin leaves it in the dust!
A friend recently got a Garmin because he is into paddling sports. While using the Garmin, he noticed that his heart rate was off. After visiting the doctor, it turned out that he has atrial fibrillation. He didn't buy the most expensive watch, but if he had purchased an Apple Watch, it would have alerted him to this condition. Apple's advancements in health are what they will be remembered for, not just for computers or phones. The Garmin may be a sports watch, but the Apple Watch could potentially save your life.
it saved my dad's life last year; my dad's watch (series 8) found a dangerous AFIB and also trigeminy they did an ablation and now all is gone, and he is doing so much more before he had no energy and always sitting watching tv too tired to do much of anything.
I'm not sure which Garmin model he had but quite a few of Garmin's models do in fact support abnormal heart rate alerts and would notify you in the case of afib. That's not to downplay Apple's advancements in the health detection area, they're definitely leading the pack there, just wanted to point out in that particular scenario, a more capable Garmin would have also alerted him.
@@carloscssr No it will not notify you only Apple watches do that period. what Garmin does is let you run a ECG to see if you have AFIB it does NOT notify you. I have an Ultra and a Garmin Epix pro 51mm and it does not notify. The way Apple does it is it watches your heart 24/7 and in Apple health app I get a notice every Monday about my heart and AFIB my Garmin has never gave me any update or anything about my heart unless I go looking for it or run an ECG on my own.
I've been meaning to upgrade my Apple Watch for a while now and really have been curious with Garmin's lineup, but there's just a few things that's not made me feel the urgency to do so atm. 1) I have fitness goals but my life goals are generally not fitness based. I exercise to be healthier and feel better but ultimately fitness is a means rather than the goal in itself for me. 2) Charging the watch is already part of the daily ritual at this point, leave it when you get ready in the morning, and once when you get ready for the evening. Shower, cooking, working from home/watching YT, not really wearing a watch. 3) Just the little things that I do a lot, use find my (which Garmin can too), reply to messages via voice-to-text, and take pictures with the Apple Watch at times. Will still look around tho, but not feeling the need for now 🍃 great vid !
For me, I actually switched back from Garmin back to Apple. Haha! After running Chicago with the Ultra 2, my pace/distance was on point with all those tall buildings, I was like I’m sticking with it!
battery life is a fair point. what makes me stick to apple is sensor accuracy. it's been demonstrated that garmin's heart rate sensors are not as accurate as the apple watch. many people on reddit report that sleep tracking is useless on the garmin as well
I haven’t run into any issues with heart rate tracking on my Garmin Forerunner 265s, it’s pretty much aligned with my Apple Watch. As for sleep, Apple Watch is marginally better, where I see the most difference is that Apple is better at recognizing how long you wake in the middle of the night(potty breaks) and Garmin sometimes registers you being awake for a half hr when maybe you were tossing around a bit instead of actually being “awake”. I trust neither for nor do I care about sleep stages at this time in life so not sure how reliable either is. I’ve always heard no wearable is great with sleep stages at this time. But both devices as well as my Coros Pace 3 does great with identifying the time you fell asleep and when you officially woke up. If you’re not a stickler about the potentially awake times in the middle of the night then Garmins other features will definitely be rewarding, especially that battery life! But there’s tons more to it.
It's a great device, but being able to have a smartwatch tied to an entire ecosystem of apps and capabilities is hard to pass up. Charging it every night while sleeping is a small price to pay.
@@theswillz3456it's not a matter of it being hard. It's more that it is annoying, unnecessary, and pathetic that a watch cannot last longer than 2 days without having to put it on a charger. How stupid is that!? Very. Garmin superior in all regards.
Let's be real, garmin is a laggy piece of crap that measures the pulse of even a sausage, 99% of all this noise like body battery, deep sleep and hrv are useless. I woke up and I feel great or maybe my head hurts, who cares what the clock says, today I have a workout and a lot of work.
Very accurate points, I just started running last year and after my 3 year old AW starting dying mid runs decided to get a Garmin. Ultimately landed on the Forerunner 965 after testing 4 different models, I'd love an Epix Pro 2 or Fenix 8 but couldn't justify the price difference.
Love Garmins, all I’ve owned are great and offer so much in terms of fitness tools, especially for runners. Would love to upgrade to a more integrated smart watch version since i’m currently rocking the Forerunner 255, but even the 255 works amazing for all my running needs
Apple and Garmin fan here. I use both. You don’t have to use the screen on Apple. All you have to do is push the one button and say a command. You don’t even have to say “Siri” if you push it. You can say, “start outdoor run”, “pause workout”, “stop workout”, “resume workout “. You can answer a call when running and don’t have to take your phone if you want as long as you have cellular. As far as someone said below that Garmin is a superior health tracker I disagree but agree it is a better fitness tracker as he stated also. The Apple as far as health tracking as always on fall detection, medication reminders, sleep apnea detection, and it checks for Afib in the background. It has car crash detection and many other things the Garmin doesn’t. Some Garmin watches have ecg but you have to have symptoms and then check for it.
There are a lot of apps in the Apple ecosystem that elevate the watch to a similar experience to the Garmin, eg. Workoutdoors, Athlytic, Strong etc. Yes you pay a bit extra and you will never get Garmin battery life, but the software user experience and apple ecosystem synergy is just so much better imo.
Pretty much convinced me to get a Garmin, but I'm still not quite sure what feature I lose (what Apple Watch has that Garmin doesn't). Could you elaborate more on that/do a video?
you can't reply to messages directly from the watch. for me that feature doesn't matter to me, i reply every message through my phone anyway. you're not losing any feature at all actually
You can go out on a run without your phone, you can stream music while running, make/take calls, have Siri make reminders or appointments while on the run (a lot of things comes to mind when I go on a casual run), ask Siri random stuff like sports score, and etc. I have tried Garmin, but besides long battery life it doesn’t really do anything better. I don’t track my sleep with watches because I hate wearing them to bed so for me AW’s charging isn’t an issue since I just charge it along with the phone while going to bed. Apple was able to miniaturize their SoC for AW10 but the fact that they didn’t take this opportunity to insert a bigger battery just tells you for majority of AW users, having to charge frequently isn’t a big deal for them. That’s why Apple preferred to make the watch thinner than having a longer battery life.
I have worn an apple watch ultra for 2 1/2 years now and in the last year I have worn an apple watch ultra and a Garmin Epix Pro g2 51 mm and I by far would choose AWU over the Garmin any day of the week. you have freedom from your phone with apple watch ultra you can make calls take emergency calls if you're in an accident it will call EMS to your location even if you are unconscious and not able to speak I have this and the accident I was in last year my AWU called EMS for me and when I came to, I was in the hospital, and the watch I bought my father detected AFIB and trigeminy on him and saved his life they did an ablation and all is good the health benefits of the AWU far exceed the battery life on a Garmin watch, that can run an ECG but it doesn't alert you to having the condition like AWU does!
One thing to note is that even though quite a few Garmin watches have maps, not all do. Not all garmins give training suggestions either. Garmin has greater variety in features between their different watches than Apple does, so you need to make sure you are getting the right garmin watch for your needs.
Love my Garmin Marq! Great fitness watches. Crazy battery life, great fitness app. Being able to swap phones and even pair to multiple phones is also really handy for me.
Nice job on this video. 👏👏👏 You are right. The Garmin comes out of the box with some great features. The Apple Watch can access many of those features, but does so via a very robust 3rd party app store. For example, the Apple Watch app WorkOutDoors has all of the mapping features of the Garmin, plus a lot, LOT more! It cost $7.00 US. (6 Euros). But, man, what an incredible app! The flashlight on the Garmin is super nice. But the Ultra 2 uses its 3000 nit screen as a very functional flashlight that can also be set to strobe mode or red light mode. I use it all the time if riding my bike in the dark and when involved in evening astronomy activities. I hope this doesn't come off as defensive. I think the Garmin is a fantastic watch. I'd be happy to own one. But the Ultra 2 is also a fantastic watch. You just need to access that "fantasticness" in different ways at times.
I switched from AWU to the Epix Pro Gen 2 51mm as well. Far better for training. Another cool feature with shortcuts is you can still use wireless pay as well.
As you have the apple watch just sitting in a drawer - why not use it like I do mine - take it on activities as a pure 1 inch iphone :) I wear my garmin 24/7 and just take the apple watch on activities so have apple music , phone connectivity in an emergency etc etc without the need to take a full phone, but track the activity on the garmin.
Agree... After 7 years using Apple Watch (S1, 2, and 5) I am donde with AW... lack of physiological parameters with use for Athletes, lack of Topological maps for real navigation, and specially lack of an useful battery (Life, and health: since it is necessary to charge it daily all series will degrade around 1000 cycles or 2-3 years depending on use... I ask: what happens if you charge your Garmin watch ONCE PER MONTH? the likely answer is: A lot of years of potential use. However, granted, I have not used the Ultra 1 or 2, or WatchOS 11... I am aiming for the Forerunner 955, Fenix 7 Pro, Fenix 8 Solar or Enduro 3.. HOWEVER, some comments have mention that the software experience in Garmin watches is (relative -to AW-) not good. it is really that bad? It is buggy? or it is just different?. Thanks.
the garninm also pairs to their inreach satelite system so you can control it all from the watch... so you can just hang the trasmitter and not worry about gettig to it. \ but BATTERY BATTERY BATTERY is the one and main reason im not switching to an apple watch from my 3 year old!! garmin.
How long have you been using that Garmin? It's all well and good being excited about a new toy but after 6 months you will realise that you miss things about the Apple Watch. Things that a Garmin simply cant do. Give it time. You may decide you prefer the Garmin and stick with it but there is a good chance that you will end up switching back because you realise that a proper smart watch is a lot more useful that a sport watch.
It’s been almost 5 months with the Garmin. As new features roll out for both watches I may swap back and forth to test them out and reevaluate down the line. You’re most definitely right though - tech honeymoon period is real. The things that I imagine will keep me coming back to the Garmin though are definitely all the fringe cases - like when I go surfing, eventually weekend snowboarding trips in a couple of months, and hiking… the Garmin just performs so much better! I thought that I would miss the AW for all those smart features but when I gave it up, I just naturally did all those things with my iPhone. Maybe I’m just not as concerned with staying connected to the digital world as I thought I was!
@@JoshuaChang Fair enough. Yeah the Garmin is definitely a good activity tracker. I have not tried it for surfing but I have for hiking and snowboarding along with mountain biking, running etc and it does all those things well. The Apple watch also does those things well though so it's not a night and day difference. The built in navigation tools on the Apple watch are definitely not competitive with Garmin yet but you can always use Workoutdoors and load in GPX tracks with downloaded topo maps etc and it's perfectly serviceable. Also when you aren't in the wilderness and looking to navigate in the streets of a foreign city, the apple watch is arguably many steps ahead here so it is swings and roundabouts. I was in Italy recently and I did heaps of navigating, riding e-scooters around cities and towns with my Apple Watch and I fully believe that this experience was much better than it would have been with a Garmin. Like I can search, explore etc on the map on my phone and then when I am ready to go I just hit go and bam, it's on my watch. I get full street navigation with traffic etc and it's super fast, high res and just easy to use so when I am scooting up to an intersection I know exactly where to go and I can even wear my airpods and get audible instructions so I dont even have to look at my watch. Also another big thing for me, having Siri on my wrist is something I have gotten so used to that I really do miss it when I don't have it. Setting timers, creating calendar events, playing music, setting a reminder, messaging my GF etc etc and I can do all of these things hands free even when my hands are full or dirty because I have been cooking or gardening. Nobody wants to touch their watch when their hands are covered in raw chicken goop. The way I see it is that the apple watch ultra can do everything (all the core features that are most important) that the Garmin can do as good or good enough but the apple watch can also do many things that the Garmin simply cannot do. Anyway, at the end of the day it is personal preference so everyone can buy and use whatever they want and we should all be happy. I owned the Garmin Enduro 1 then came back to Apple watch and then later got a fantastic deal on an Enduro 2 from a lady that won it in a competition and didn't want it so I went back to Garmin but eventually realised I just miss the Apple watch even if the battery life is only 2 days and the offline mapping is not as good, the rest of the device is just smarter, better, more connected, more integrated and more "smart" instead of "sport".
While the Garmin is the better sports watch, 99% of users won’t be using all of the features. Tracking working and GPS, tracking steps, and heart rate and sleep are really the things most people use regularly which Apple does great. People can get what they want forsure, but after having a Fenix 7 and Apple watch I use both devices for the same things
I own both, plus a Fitbit. The Garmin is not as bright or colourful as the apple watch. The verdict - They are all bad: the sensors provide false readings when you start to sweat. You can get a water proof band that goes around your torse from garmin, and third party for the apple but not the Fitbit. Fibit - dedicate for weight loss and calorie counting, and can be used for exercise. Garmin - Vastly superior in terms of options, more geared towards sport. Apple watch - heart sensor is sporadic, requires third party software for logging in calories. But in the end, anyone who is serious about datalogging, calories and other health related metrics, they all fail. Get a waiste band and software on your phone. I also want to add that in broad dailight the Garmin and fibit are not as bright as the apple watch. In terms of accuracy they are all bad. I miss the old Suuntos, before they were bought out.
I think some of the issues with Apple Watch are easily solved with 3rd party apps, like Atheletics for recovery, or Workoutdoors for routes, offline maps and great activity tracking. Apple Watch as a flashlight too. But yeah, the applewatch definitly sucks in terms of battery life
😎Apple Watch does so much more and is the “smartest” watch which is why the battery life is what it is. For Apple’s ecosystem, Apple Watch is the better choice, however of course everyone has the freedom to choose. That’s the great option of life.✌️
Is there a particular reason you keep switching between the apple watch 10th gen and apple watch ultra? You collectively take both those watches as one - and switch around with the features of one watch to another. I believe you make the point that the battery life in the apple watch 10th gen is 1 day - which is correct - but not so the case with Apple watch ultra - which is the watch being displayed on the video. You also started the video by comparing the AWU with the Garmin but keep using features of the 10th gen apple watch to compare with the Garmin.
I believe the core experience of all Apple Watches are largely the same. The one line I put in there about Apple Watches still on an “all day” battery life was to echo my frustration (and probably a lot of others frustrations) about Apple’s lack of improvement in this area. Sorry if that came across confusing!
I have both apple watch Ultra 2 and Garmin Fenix 8, Garmin is my favorite and works better top to bottom, the only reason I keep the apple Ultra is because am too invested on apple ecosystem ad it works well with my apple products. The only thing that is terrible on the apple is its battery, my Garmin can last me 13 days with heavy usage without charge which is insane
From experience you’ll end up flip flopping between the two. Or both brands for that matter. I have recently stuck with the AWU 2 for longer than expected, given most personal outdoor activities (trail running + hiking) don’t require Garmin’s battery life. Apple looks to be also taking recovery tracking more seriously of late. It is not core to their business ala Garmin, but a good signal nonetheless.
Thanks for your insight. I have both a the Watch Ultra and a Garmin Tactix 7 Peo and wear them both throughout the day however, at night I only wear the Garmin because of battery life and better sleep details. I wear the Watch for mobile connectivity (phone & messages) so I don’t have to take a phone with me whenever I go (plus I have gotten injured on runs previously so it’s good for the just in case).
I came here because I am planning to pass from Garmin to Apple Watch, actually this guy is comparing one of the Garmin's flagships, mine has no functionalities at all like these shown in the video. I cannot even see how I slept last night without needing my phone...
$0. I’ve used both watches for several months and these are my true opinions. I will say that I’m probably a bit more active than the average person so I’m biased towards a more rugged watch.
Just 10 secs into User Experience and the watch has stutters in UI. In 2024, no watch should stutter in this price segment. Apple Watch also provides you a lot more than just fitness features.
as a person who constantly changing smartwatches (Apple Watch, Garmin, Coros, etc.), this is fair points.
I think some of the issues with Apple Watch are easily solved with 3rd party apps, like Atheletics for recovery, or Workoutdoors for routes, offline maps and great activity tracking. Apple Watch as a flashlight too.
But yeah, the applewatch definitly sucks in terms of battery life
@@appartrivard-laurier6803but then again those apps are third party and are not smooth with apples software or even with Apple health . Unfortunately that’s why I didn’t like using the third party apps on Apple . Dual uploads to Strava a lot of times
I’ve used Garmin for 7+ years having multiple different watches. I’m a runner and cyclist and weekend hiker. I did love Garmin a long time. I had the Apple Watch Ultra 1 for about a week, but back then the OS was nowhere near close to Garmin in terms of fitness tracking. With Watch OS11, it is MUCH MUCH closer. I picked up the Ultra 2 in black and I think I’m done with Garmin forever. Imo, their software is incredibly buggy and slow for a $1000 watch, and now that Apple has closed the gap enough, it just doesn’t make sense for me to use Garmin anymore.
Wow 7 years with a garmin and a week later ditched garmin 4ever.
with 2 days battery life?
wow I have the complete opposite opinion... After 7 years using Apple Watch (S1, 2, and 5) I am donde with AW... lack of physiological parameters with use for Athletes, lack of Topological maps for real navigation, and specially lack of an useful battery (Life, and health: since it is necessary to charge it daily all series will degrade around 1000 cycles or 2-3 years depending on use... I ask: what happens if you charge your Garmin watch ONCE PER MONTH? the likely answer is: A lot of years of potential use. However, granted, I have not used the Ultra 1 or 2, or WatchOS 11... so what Garmin Watch did you had? (I am aiming for the Forerunner 955, Fenix 7 Pro, Fenix 8 Solar or Enduro 3) it is really that bad? As I said, I am eager to run away from Apple Watch limitations. Thanks.
the same story :) but I tried garmen fenix 8 for a week and was already done with Garmin 😅fenix 8 costed to me 1.2k$ in Europe, and it's too expensive for such a weak watch. I had worst user experience with such an expensive device ever. The flow of configuring watch face downloaded from ConnectIQ made me laugh out laud, I felt myself back to 2000s 😁btw @TheQuantifiedScientist makes a lot of testing sensors of different wearables (Apple Watch, Garmin, many others). Garmin is not that good for measuring health data in comparation with Apple Watch, according to him. And the difference is significant, counting that Apple Watch Ultra 2 costs almost 300$ cheepier then fenix 8 with titanium frame and sapphire glass. Yeah, probably Garmin could make more sense for guys who need a solid battery life, in this case Garmin much better, but I'm not such a guys. And maybe some professional sportsman's may find Garmin more convenient for the training, but it's debatable.
Not sure if you know this but there’s an app called Athlytic and you can have almost the same data as on a Garmin in terms of recovery, sleep and so on
I bought a Garmin before but didn't like the software experience. That pretty sums up my decision to go back to Apple Watch.
That’s my experience after 7 years with Garmin. Fed up with the software experience. Every single update breaks something and then it takes forever for them to fix it. The watch is laggy and slow, and imo Garmin hasn’t innovated ANYTHING software wise for years. My Epix Pro 2 felt EXACTLY like my Fenix 5 did software wise.
@@mbrackmann8 this is why I sold my 965 then I bought the Epix pro g2 51mm thinking it would be better and yes exactly the same it's now up on fbmp for sale! ill never buy another Garmin watch ever.
this is the solo reason i gave up on it on the first 30 min of trying it
i dont care if your data is 30% better than apple watch ultra
but if im getting a high end smart watch in 2024, the app better not feel like 2010
Since I'm a senior with some health issues I use the Apple Watch since I think it is stronger in that departement. It is also better integrated with my other Apple products. However, when I play golf I use my Garmin watch and I'm impressed by the battery life. I tried golf apps on Apple Watch but the battery barely last a full round of golf. No issue with the Garmin. At least 70 % battery left after a round.
my ultra watch lasts for days let alone a few rounds of golf
Completely agree! The amoled Garmin's are a good balance offering most of the smartwatch features, but with tons of training data! I also didn't think I would be using the flashlight, but every time I try to go back to a normal smartwatch, the on screen one just doesn't compare. If you're not a smartwatch super-user, Garmin will provide most of the information that you need!
so will AWU you just need to learn how.....
Great video! Just a quick note regarding the Garmin's being "not as smart" - they do have two models that support taking phone calls (Venu 3 and Fenix 8) and many more that support responding to messages directly on device, however, these functions are only available when paired to an Android phone due to artificial limitations on Apple's side. Apple intentionally limits integration with third-party accessories to help sell more Apple Watches.
the thing about the AWU is it has cellular without having to have your phone in your pocket or anywhere near you.....Garmin doesn't have that yet and probably never will because of battery drain, they would no longer be able to claim longest batter life!
@@davidbraswell1481 no they did make a cellular watch a couple of years back. I think its discontinued now though, not sure if it just didnt sell or what. But I mean lets be honest, if the fenix/epix is your type of watch and you really want to take a "phone" with you, if you can afford the 1000k price you can almost certainly stretch to the cheapest AW cellular to have in a pocket without a big phone flapping around.
If you workout, the Garmin is best. If you don’t, the Apple Watch is best. That’s my opinion.
As a n Epix Pro user (and a Fenix 5 user for over 6 years previously), you cannot go wrong with a Garmin watch.
Have you seen the Garmin forum how many complaints there are with ; low light condition issues, buggy widget apps, lag with swiping watchfaces, lag with loading maps, errors like crashing or freezing screens, slow CPU and RAM, no decent apps to download, .. I bought a 1200€ watch (Fenix 8) and it was so bad.. I also had the Epix Pro 2 and that one was a bit better but still not amazing..
@@Tha-King-Arthur mine is garbage I bought the 965 first it felt cheap and was off on the Metrix so i sold it went to the Epix pro g2 51mm and it was complete shit too the only thing I used thee most on the entire watch was the flash light it was never wrong and always came on!! back to the OG AWU g1 its an awesome watch with work out doors and Athlytic the watch smokes Garmin leaves it in the dust!
@@Tha-King-Arthur never had any of those problems.
@@davidbraswell1481 AWU2 is the better watch. And I’m not even an Apple enthusiast.
A friend recently got a Garmin because he is into paddling sports. While using the Garmin, he noticed that his heart rate was off. After visiting the doctor, it turned out that he has atrial fibrillation. He didn't buy the most expensive watch, but if he had purchased an Apple Watch, it would have alerted him to this condition. Apple's advancements in health are what they will be remembered for, not just for computers or phones. The Garmin may be a sports watch, but the Apple Watch could potentially save your life.
it saved my dad's life last year; my dad's watch (series 8) found a dangerous AFIB and also trigeminy they did an ablation and now all is gone, and he is doing so much more before he had no energy and always sitting watching tv too tired to do much of anything.
I'm not sure which Garmin model he had but quite a few of Garmin's models do in fact support abnormal heart rate alerts and would notify you in the case of afib. That's not to downplay Apple's advancements in the health detection area, they're definitely leading the pack there, just wanted to point out in that particular scenario, a more capable Garmin would have also alerted him.
Any top garmin will do that...
@@carloscssr No it will not notify you only Apple watches do that period. what Garmin does is let you run a ECG to see if you have AFIB it does NOT notify you. I have an Ultra and a Garmin Epix pro 51mm and it does not notify. The way Apple does it is it watches your heart 24/7 and in Apple health app I get a notice every Monday about my heart and AFIB my Garmin has never gave me any update or anything about my heart unless I go looking for it or run an ECG on my own.
@@carloscssr Sure?, - where is this documented by Garmin
I've been meaning to upgrade my Apple Watch for a while now and really have been curious with Garmin's lineup, but there's just a few things that's not made me feel the urgency to do so atm. 1) I have fitness goals but my life goals are generally not fitness based. I exercise to be healthier and feel better but ultimately fitness is a means rather than the goal in itself for me. 2) Charging the watch is already part of the daily ritual at this point, leave it when you get ready in the morning, and once when you get ready for the evening. Shower, cooking, working from home/watching YT, not really wearing a watch. 3) Just the little things that I do a lot, use find my (which Garmin can too), reply to messages via voice-to-text, and take pictures with the Apple Watch at times. Will still look around tho, but not feeling the need for now 🍃 great vid !
For me, I actually switched back from Garmin back to Apple. Haha! After running Chicago with the Ultra 2, my pace/distance was on point with all those tall buildings, I was like I’m sticking with it!
battery life is a fair point. what makes me stick to apple is sensor accuracy. it's been demonstrated that garmin's heart rate sensors are not as accurate as the apple watch. many people on reddit report that sleep tracking is useless on the garmin as well
I haven’t run into any issues with heart rate tracking on my Garmin Forerunner 265s, it’s pretty much aligned with my Apple Watch. As for sleep, Apple Watch is marginally better, where I see the most difference is that Apple is better at recognizing how long you wake in the middle of the night(potty breaks) and Garmin sometimes registers you being awake for a half hr when maybe you were tossing around a bit instead of actually being “awake”. I trust neither for nor do I care about sleep stages at this time in life so not sure how reliable either is. I’ve always heard no wearable is great with sleep stages at this time. But both devices as well as my Coros Pace 3 does great with identifying the time you fell asleep and when you officially woke up. If you’re not a stickler about the potentially awake times in the middle of the night then Garmins other features will definitely be rewarding, especially that battery life! But there’s tons more to it.
Let's be real, Garmin is superior as a fitness and health tracker with longevity of battery life.
Why is it so hard to place a watch on a puck for a few minutes to charge it ?
It's a great device, but being able to have a smartwatch tied to an entire ecosystem of apps and capabilities is hard to pass up. Charging it every night while sleeping is a small price to pay.
@@theswillz3456it's not a matter of it being hard.
It's more that it is annoying, unnecessary, and pathetic that a watch cannot last longer than 2 days without having to put it on a charger. How stupid is that!? Very.
Garmin superior in all regards.
Let's be real, garmin is a laggy piece of crap that measures the pulse of even a sausage, 99% of all this noise like body battery, deep sleep and hrv are useless. I woke up and I feel great or maybe my head hurts, who cares what the clock says, today I have a workout and a lot of work.
It's funny that the squats are shown incorrectly on the clock) the dummy collapses its knees inward in the lower phase
Very accurate points, I just started running last year and after my 3 year old AW starting dying mid runs decided to get a Garmin. Ultimately landed on the Forerunner 965 after testing 4 different models, I'd love an Epix Pro 2 or Fenix 8 but couldn't justify the price difference.
I just switched from Apple Watch Ultra 2 to Garmin Fenix 8. I glad to make this decision.
Love Garmins, all I’ve owned are great and offer so much in terms of fitness tools, especially for runners. Would love to upgrade to a more integrated smart watch version since i’m currently rocking the Forerunner 255, but even the 255 works amazing for all my running needs
Apple and Garmin fan here. I use both. You don’t have to use the screen on Apple. All you have to do is push the one button and say a command. You don’t even have to say “Siri” if you push it. You can say, “start outdoor run”, “pause workout”, “stop workout”, “resume workout “. You can answer a call when running and don’t have to take your phone if you want as long as you have cellular. As far as someone said below that Garmin is a superior health tracker I disagree but agree it is a better fitness tracker as he stated also. The Apple as far as health tracking as always on fall detection, medication reminders, sleep apnea detection, and it checks for Afib in the background. It has car crash detection and many other things the Garmin doesn’t. Some Garmin watches have ecg but you have to have symptoms and then check for it.
There are a lot of apps in the Apple ecosystem that elevate the watch to a similar experience to the Garmin, eg. Workoutdoors, Athlytic, Strong etc. Yes you pay a bit extra and you will never get Garmin battery life, but the software user experience and apple ecosystem synergy is just so much better imo.
is there a workout app like that garmin one on apple watches with detailed info and stuff?.. i hate subscriptions but i'd definitely pay for that
Pretty much convinced me to get a Garmin, but I'm still not quite sure what feature I lose (what Apple Watch has that Garmin doesn't). Could you elaborate more on that/do a video?
you can't reply to messages directly from the watch. for me that feature doesn't matter to me, i reply every message through my phone anyway.
you're not losing any feature at all actually
@@nuhagunawan95the replies are canned though. So if it’s something complicated, you have to use your phone to reply back.
You can go out on a run without your phone, you can stream music while running, make/take calls, have Siri make reminders or appointments while on the run (a lot of things comes to mind when I go on a casual run), ask Siri random stuff like sports score, and etc.
I have tried Garmin, but besides long battery life it doesn’t really do anything better. I don’t track my sleep with watches because I hate wearing them to bed so for me AW’s charging isn’t an issue since I just charge it along with the phone while going to bed.
Apple was able to miniaturize their SoC for AW10 but the fact that they didn’t take this opportunity to insert a bigger battery just tells you for majority of AW users, having to charge frequently isn’t a big deal for them. That’s why Apple preferred to make the watch thinner than having a longer battery life.
@@Phat-rj3jo exactly
I have worn an apple watch ultra for 2 1/2 years now and in the last year I have worn an apple watch ultra and a Garmin Epix Pro g2 51 mm and I by far would choose AWU over the Garmin any day of the week. you have freedom from your phone with apple watch ultra you can make calls take emergency calls if you're in an accident it will call EMS to your location even if you are unconscious and not able to speak I have this and the accident I was in last year my AWU called EMS for me and when I came to, I was in the hospital, and the watch I bought my father detected AFIB and trigeminy on him and saved his life they did an ablation and all is good the health benefits of the AWU far exceed the battery life on a Garmin watch, that can run an ECG but it doesn't alert you to having the condition like AWU does!
One thing to note is that even though quite a few Garmin watches have maps, not all do. Not all garmins give training suggestions either. Garmin has greater variety in features between their different watches than Apple does, so you need to make sure you are getting the right garmin watch for your needs.
Love my Garmin Marq! Great fitness watches. Crazy battery life, great fitness app. Being able to swap phones and even pair to multiple phones is also really handy for me.
Which watch do you daily? 🤔
Nice job on this video. 👏👏👏 You are right. The Garmin comes out of the box with some great features. The Apple Watch can access many of those features, but does so via a very robust 3rd party app store. For example, the Apple Watch app WorkOutDoors has all of the mapping features of the Garmin, plus a lot, LOT more! It cost $7.00 US. (6 Euros). But, man, what an incredible app! The flashlight on the Garmin is super nice. But the Ultra 2 uses its 3000 nit screen as a very functional flashlight that can also be set to strobe mode or red light mode. I use it all the time if riding my bike in the dark and when involved in evening astronomy activities. I hope this doesn't come off as defensive. I think the Garmin is a fantastic watch. I'd be happy to own one. But the Ultra 2 is also a fantastic watch. You just need to access that "fantasticness" in different ways at times.
I switched from AWU to the Epix Pro Gen 2 51mm as well. Far better for training. Another cool feature with shortcuts is you can still use wireless pay as well.
What in particular do you feel is better with the garmin training wise?
Will you be maybe talking about new Galaxy Watch Ultra? Your videos are fire, so it would be nice to see what you think about it!
Apple should really take note, well done Garmin!
As you have the apple watch just sitting in a drawer - why not use it like I do mine - take it on activities as a pure 1 inch iphone :) I wear my garmin 24/7 and just take the apple watch on activities so have apple music , phone connectivity in an emergency etc etc without the need to take a full phone, but track the activity on the garmin.
I have an Apple Watch Ultra and would love to switch to Fenix 8. But the Price for Garmin is too high.
Keeping my Apple Watch 😎
Agree... After 7 years using Apple Watch (S1, 2, and 5) I am donde with AW... lack of physiological parameters with use for Athletes, lack of Topological maps for real navigation, and specially lack of an useful battery (Life, and health: since it is necessary to charge it daily all series will degrade around 1000 cycles or 2-3 years depending on use... I ask: what happens if you charge your Garmin watch ONCE PER MONTH? the likely answer is: A lot of years of potential use. However, granted, I have not used the Ultra 1 or 2, or WatchOS 11... I am aiming for the Forerunner 955, Fenix 7 Pro, Fenix 8 Solar or Enduro 3.. HOWEVER, some comments have mention that the software experience in Garmin watches is (relative -to AW-) not good. it is really that bad? It is buggy? or it is just different?. Thanks.
Where is that band from the Apple Watch from
the garninm also pairs to their inreach satelite system so you can control it all from the watch... so you can just hang the trasmitter and not worry about gettig to it. \
but BATTERY BATTERY BATTERY is the one and main reason im not switching to an apple watch from my 3 year old!! garmin.
How long have you been using that Garmin? It's all well and good being excited about a new toy but after 6 months you will realise that you miss things about the Apple Watch. Things that a Garmin simply cant do. Give it time. You may decide you prefer the Garmin and stick with it but there is a good chance that you will end up switching back because you realise that a proper smart watch is a lot more useful that a sport watch.
It’s been almost 5 months with the Garmin. As new features roll out for both watches I may swap back and forth to test them out and reevaluate down the line. You’re most definitely right though - tech honeymoon period is real.
The things that I imagine will keep me coming back to the Garmin though are definitely all the fringe cases - like when I go surfing, eventually weekend snowboarding trips in a couple of months, and hiking… the Garmin just performs so much better!
I thought that I would miss the AW for all those smart features but when I gave it up, I just naturally did all those things with my iPhone. Maybe I’m just not as concerned with staying connected to the digital world as I thought I was!
@@JoshuaChang Fair enough. Yeah the Garmin is definitely a good activity tracker. I have not tried it for surfing but I have for hiking and snowboarding along with mountain biking, running etc and it does all those things well. The Apple watch also does those things well though so it's not a night and day difference. The built in navigation tools on the Apple watch are definitely not competitive with Garmin yet but you can always use Workoutdoors and load in GPX tracks with downloaded topo maps etc and it's perfectly serviceable. Also when you aren't in the wilderness and looking to navigate in the streets of a foreign city, the apple watch is arguably many steps ahead here so it is swings and roundabouts. I was in Italy recently and I did heaps of navigating, riding e-scooters around cities and towns with my Apple Watch and I fully believe that this experience was much better than it would have been with a Garmin. Like I can search, explore etc on the map on my phone and then when I am ready to go I just hit go and bam, it's on my watch. I get full street navigation with traffic etc and it's super fast, high res and just easy to use so when I am scooting up to an intersection I know exactly where to go and I can even wear my airpods and get audible instructions so I dont even have to look at my watch. Also another big thing for me, having Siri on my wrist is something I have gotten so used to that I really do miss it when I don't have it. Setting timers, creating calendar events, playing music, setting a reminder, messaging my GF etc etc and I can do all of these things hands free even when my hands are full or dirty because I have been cooking or gardening. Nobody wants to touch their watch when their hands are covered in raw chicken goop. The way I see it is that the apple watch ultra can do everything (all the core features that are most important) that the Garmin can do as good or good enough but the apple watch can also do many things that the Garmin simply cannot do. Anyway, at the end of the day it is personal preference so everyone can buy and use whatever they want and we should all be happy. I owned the Garmin Enduro 1 then came back to Apple watch and then later got a fantastic deal on an Enduro 2 from a lady that won it in a competition and didn't want it so I went back to Garmin but eventually realised I just miss the Apple watch even if the battery life is only 2 days and the offline mapping is not as good, the rest of the device is just smarter, better, more connected, more integrated and more "smart" instead of "sport".
I just saw your Apple Watch Ultra in 2024 yesterday🙃 now Im debating
Garmin doesn’t have a good software.. that’s a huge deny.
You can reply to messages and calls on the epix pro gen 2 already
While the Garmin is the better sports watch, 99% of users won’t be using all of the features. Tracking working and GPS, tracking steps, and heart rate and sleep are really the things most people use regularly which Apple does great. People can get what they want forsure, but after having a Fenix 7 and Apple watch I use both devices for the same things
I own both, plus a Fitbit. The Garmin is not as bright or colourful as the apple watch. The verdict - They are all bad: the sensors provide false readings when you start to sweat. You can get a water proof band that goes around your torse from garmin, and third party for the apple but not the Fitbit. Fibit - dedicate for weight loss and calorie counting, and can be used for exercise. Garmin - Vastly superior in terms of options, more geared towards sport. Apple watch - heart sensor is sporadic, requires third party software for logging in calories. But in the end, anyone who is serious about datalogging, calories and other health related metrics, they all fail. Get a waiste band and software on your phone. I also want to add that in broad dailight the Garmin and fibit are not as bright as the apple watch. In terms of accuracy they are all bad. I miss the old Suuntos, before they were bought out.
I think some of the issues with Apple Watch are easily solved with 3rd party apps, like Atheletics for recovery, or Workoutdoors for routes, offline maps and great activity tracking. Apple Watch as a flashlight too.
But yeah, the applewatch definitly sucks in terms of battery life
😎Apple Watch does so much more and is the “smartest” watch which is why the battery life is what it is. For Apple’s ecosystem, Apple Watch is the better choice, however of course everyone has the freedom to choose. That’s the great option of life.✌️
Love the open mindedness!
If garmin & amzfit provides eSIM it will have same battery life as Apple Watch.
Is there a particular reason you keep switching between the apple watch 10th gen and apple watch ultra?
You collectively take both those watches as one - and switch around with the features of one watch to another.
I believe you make the point that the battery life in the apple watch 10th gen is 1 day - which is correct - but not so the case with Apple watch ultra - which is the watch being displayed on the video.
You also started the video by comparing the AWU with the Garmin but keep using features of the 10th gen apple watch to compare with the Garmin.
I believe the core experience of all Apple Watches are largely the same.
The one line I put in there about Apple Watches still on an “all day” battery life was to echo my frustration (and probably a lot of others frustrations) about Apple’s lack of improvement in this area.
Sorry if that came across confusing!
I have both the new ultra 2 and garmin forerunner 965 haha best of both worlds
I have both apple watch Ultra 2 and Garmin Fenix 8, Garmin is my favorite and works better top to bottom, the only reason I keep the apple Ultra is because am too invested on apple ecosystem ad it works well with my apple products. The only thing that is terrible on the apple is its battery, my Garmin can last me 13 days with heavy usage without charge which is insane
As an Apple Watch Ultra User I can confidently say..
Garmin is better.
Both are so good but I lean Garmin. Apple better smart watch, Garmin better at everything else
i have to disagree, depending on where you are, these garmins are way expensive than both apple/samsung smart watches.
From experience you’ll end up flip flopping between the two. Or both brands for that matter.
I have recently stuck with the AWU 2 for longer than expected, given most personal outdoor activities (trail running + hiking) don’t require Garmin’s battery life.
Apple looks to be also taking recovery tracking more seriously of late. It is not core to their business ala Garmin, but a good signal nonetheless.
As someone who uses their phone as a phone, I have no need for a smart watch anyway
The reason why I use the Apple Watch Ultra 2 atull is because it’s more accurate
Thanks for your insight.
I have both a the Watch Ultra and a Garmin Tactix 7 Peo and wear them both throughout the day however, at night I only wear the Garmin because of battery life and better sleep details. I wear the Watch for mobile connectivity (phone & messages) so I don’t have to take a phone with me whenever I go (plus I have gotten injured on runs previously so it’s good for the just in case).
I came here because I am planning to pass from Garmin to Apple Watch, actually this guy is comparing one of the Garmin's flagships, mine has no functionalities at all like these shown in the video. I cannot even see how I slept last night without needing my phone...
Apple Watch or die
Bro go run a marathon or something 😛
Also hi ur vids are sick
@@JoshuaChang HAHAHAH tyty you too
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Apple Watch looks better I think. It is a nice tough everyday watch. For the hard core there are clearly better performances watches out there.
Definitely agree here. Apple makes a more handsome watch! For special occasions, I swap my Garmin for an analog watch.
How much is Garmin paying you? It seems as though 99.99% of TH-cam content creators opinions is where their get money from?😂
$0. I’ve used both watches for several months and these are my true opinions. I will say that I’m probably a bit more active than the average person so I’m biased towards a more rugged watch.
I don't know why such people like you didn't start with Garmin or even bothered to switch to Apple watch which is just a smartwatch
Always thought Garmins were meant for “hardcore athletes”. That’s the impression they give off and why I didn’t spring for it initially.
Apple are great watches with one day battery life 👎👎👎. Garmin all the way!!!
Garmin laggy experience
Garmin UX is no way better than Apple - the App is stuck in clunky android land of web2.0... There's no way you're serious
Garmin does make a good watch, that’s for sure 💪🏽
But when it comes to accuracy of health metrics like HR apple is superior , there are things more important than others , accuracy is a big one
Optical hr is hit or miss depending on the person.
Just 10 secs into User Experience and the watch has stutters in UI. In 2024, no watch should stutter in this price segment. Apple Watch also provides you a lot more than just fitness features.
what watchface is that?
but it looks shit so nope i will not switch to the garmin bro :D
Let's be hones, the Apple Watch is superior in every way !
no
Except battery life and flash light, those features sold me
@@EvoMonstersIt has a “flashlight” by using the screen to go ultra bright white and even red, which I use at night often. 😎✌️
@@RobertGaron I used my S7 all the time for that, I’m sure the ultra is way brighter, but dedicated leds is really hard to beat
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waiting Garmin Swim 3 😂 best garmin watch to be. Apple watch sucks at swimming failed to track laps trash