DAVE KNOWS that while one wrestling title is good, eight wrestling championships is even better. So let's reexamine and remember the glorious wonder that is the J Crown!
NJPW, PWG, ROH, WCPW, ICW, CZW etc should all take a title, break up the main plate into equal pieces, all have their own piece each on a respective title and have members of each promotion try and complete the title for their brand by winning the other brands titles and taking their pieces. More pieces the better. If that story went on for a few years, the eventual match where there was only one match left to unite them all would be huge!
I created my own J-Crown in WWE 2k18. It's the R-Crown. The R-Crown is the IWGP, CZW, NWA, WWE, TNA, CMLL, AAA, ROH, WCW, WWWF, ECW, LU and IWA. My R-Crown is 13 World Heavyweight Championships from 13 promotions.
That was a last minute decision. I realized while I was editing that I have to give the global audience some love and represent the better measuring system which is metric.. wish the US would get on board
Cool vid. Hmm, so when Vince was mad about Medusa dropping his woman's belt in the trash. He forgot that U.D. had his light weight belt on tv. lol. Cool vid. Kind of Cool to see Ayako Hamada's Dad with the belt. I have only seen Gran Hamada wrestle when he teamed with his daughter Ayako in Arson when they had a mix tag against Faby Apache and her dad Gran Apache. I saw this on DVD or a VHS tape. years ago. Back on topic. I liked Ultimo Dragon in WCW and he was fun to use in WCW/ NWO revenge for the N 64. Seems like a very cool curser weight belt idea. Was this or the triple crown champion ship Vader held in Japan created first? Once again cool vid. Can't wait to see your next vid.
I swear I thought back then they just had a bunch of random belts they gave Ultimo Dragon and BOOM J CROWN Champion back then lol I couldn't wrap my head around how someone could defend all those titles and still keep.the WCW schedule at least once a month? How in the heck did Eric Bischoff not know a wrestler of his had a WWF title that fell through the cracks when Vince Sr sold it to Vince Knowing him I'd think he have mentioned that on tv like Paul Heyman did after Brock Lesnar beat the streak just to make Vince look bad.
That was the thing. Reports claim that WCW's Legal Team was willing to fire Bischoff at this time if he did anything like that on WCW TV. Turner's team was who was against it. This is also why Bret bringing the WWF title on WCW was never even a possibility
The Great Susake was the last wrestler to hold both the WCW cruiserweight belt and the WWF light heavyweight championship at the same time . Soon after Vince McMahon Recalled his strap back to the US and went on to hold the tournament to crown a new Champ
Very informative. Well laid out. As you went to lengths to get so many details for this, I don't feel like I'm nit-picking when I say the wrestlers name The Great Sasuke (pronounced sass-kay). Still love the "where is it now" to each title. Thanks for sharing, have a good day.
Ultimo Dragon should win the prestigious NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship because he and that prestigious Ten Pounds of Gold were both overseas on many different continents with Ultimo Dragon fighting the best of the best and that Title being defended all across the globe
I'm glad you did the collaboration debate with Brian Zane. Without it, I wouldn't have discovered your channel. I love these videos. Thank you for making them.
hey dave, dude one again my wig is strait blown right the fux off by ur knowledge of the subject ultimo was/is one of my favorite wrestlers from the 90s era i loved when he would come to the ring carrying his titles in a wheelbarrow and his matches with melinko forget about it they where all masterful, never got the full story on how he obtained all those straps just knew i would never see it again so thanks for the info and tribute to a true legend of wrestling, ur channels is the sh!t bro
hey man, I just saw your video with www and I gotta say, it is so typical for the bigger channels to just bury all the newcomers lmao I loved the video and I love your style, I'll be sure to stick around and watch you grow. Sincerely, A TH-cam Mark
That was pretty cool to break down all the titles that were in the J-Crown as i do remember watching a few matches off of WCW where Ultimo Dragon held that title .Have that match with Gedo and Chris Jericho when they fought to crown the WAR International Jr. Heavyweight Champion plus have a few matches with Jericho as champion defending that title against Ultimo Dragon . Remember watching a few matches from the 80's where the WWF Jr. Heavyweight Title was defended .Believe it was The Cobra against Black Tiger though be wrong . Can only imagine how much of a pain it would have been to carry those titles through customs in airports .Problably would needed at least 3 suitcases to carry all those belts . LMFAO! Since we are on this subject do you think that a title like this could be done again or would the politics between wrestling companies be too great to do such . Peace and outta here .
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Well considering that both do talent exchanges and have that ppv by ROH War Of The Worlds not to mention that huge MSG show next month with both companies being featured it's not a completely crazy idea for them to do such . Think if ROH was to create a Jr.Heavyweight Title and unify it with NJPW think of the matchups that could be done . I have seen that there will be the ROH Vs NJPW Tag Team Title Match with The Briscoes Vs G.O.D. which imo will be a show stealer . 1 can only hope .
Both Tna And ROH should promoted UD like crazy because he would have been a great champion for them when others were leaving for WWE. Loved watching him wrestle and not sure I saw his stint in WWE. WCW should have pushed him to be tag team and us champion as well.
NWA WCW made the light heavyweight championship then in the late 90s curated the WCW Cruiserweight belt the J Crown championship which I have respect very well with the early WWF Junior heavyweight belt then later they jump WWF light heavyweight belt with matches of tiger mask in WWF going after that championship the junior heavyweight belt with matches against like Dynamite Kid and the cobra
I got mine through Highspots. Can’t remember if it was a VHS or DVD rip! Also if you do watch it, they had the intro bit where Liger had the wrestlers put their belts in the middle of the ring and then walk out to symbolize their inclusion in the tournament, but it looks like there are NINE titles there!!! I’ll see if I can find my copy to see.
Unfortunately the way wrestling promotions and members of the fanbase treat other weight classes outside heavyweight is a sign that parts of industry is still stuck in the past because they view anyone who wins a heavyweight title be it NWA, WWE, IWGP or whatever makes you the top star, combat sports like Boxing or MMA would anyone who's a big money maker as the top star regardless of weight class, the biggest names in Boxing in the last few years were Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquio, while the biggest name in MMA right now is Connor McGregor and before that it was Anderson Silva several years earlier and both fighters fought in weight classes below heavyweight. The only part of the world that's an exception is Mexico but that's because it was the opposite as lighter classes were more popular than Heavyweight. Come to think of it you can make a Monday Night Wrong video out of this idea to coincide with the upcoming McGregor vs Khalid fight at UFC 229.
FIRZEN FIRE. Thanks for Shiro Koshinaka for becoming first title holder and Shingiro Otani for becoming the last j crown chapion even after the champions got abanded Otani saved one and is the junior heaviweight champion which thats how it started the winners
Always loved the J Crown, but the wwf belt actually never made it on wcw tv. back then wcw hadnt yet reached that level of wwf bashing and throwing belts in trashcans lol
Dave Knows Wrestling Ultimo has always been my favorite Luchador but I recently been reading and seeing videos of Santo and learned he was like a living god in Mexico.
wait wait.. so are you telling me WWE didnt realize Ultimo Dragon had the WWF light heavyweight belt on TV during the monday night wars?! They didnt reclaim it until after Ultimo...
This seriously is one of the most humorously embarrassing things in WWE history. At least that how it seems they view it. Unlike other shameful moments, like Katie Vick for example, WWE will casual reference their screw ups at times. But they eradicated the lineage of this original title and brought a new light heavyweight title in just to cover up the existence of the first. Then they merged that belt with the cruiserweight title.
I got lost Dave apologies but thank you for the information anyways. I remembered Ultimo Dragon he was in the place Where The Big Boys Played he had brought a different element but then sadly NWO came made him a jobber like so many underserving souls of those days
now that I know what the j crown is, the whole 10 title at one time thing seems less impressive. I know it's silly since pro wrestling is pre-determined, and literally anyone could hold 10 titles if the companies cooperate/make enough titles. but still, if 8 of those 10 titles were all won in the same match, it's just no really the same...
the initial tournament win certainly is, as every participant would be a champion. but after that, the j crown was defended as one giant title. (except for the war belt, for some reason.) but even if we do consider it as 1 belt instead of 7, he means ultimo dragon still had 3 different titles, from 3 different companies, at the same time. and that is definitely an accomplishment unto itself. still very impressive, but nearly as legendary as it seemed when I first saw him walk down to the ring with all those belts.
i appreciate the knowledge but bro , it kills me when you pronounce the Great Sasukes name wrong . repeatedly when you apear to be oriental . i mean no disrespect or rascism dude and i hope i dont appear that way . but to me its disrespectful to mispronounce their names like that . but we all make mistakes . much love .
This proves how stupid WWF is you created a title it was on a world tour instead of you just using that and getting a story off of it. I would've gave em shit. This is why WWE is going in the toilet.
Ultimo Dragon, one of the reasons I love Japanese, Mexican, & Jr. Heavyweight/Cruiserweight/Lightweight wrestling.
Yeah, Ultimo.. so underrated today
He, Sasuke and Jushin we're the originators of the Japanese Lucha Cruiserweight style
WWE really dropped the ball with Ultimo
NJPW, PWG, ROH, WCPW, ICW, CZW etc should all take a title, break up the main plate into equal pieces, all have their own piece each on a respective title and have members of each promotion try and complete the title for their brand by winning the other brands titles and taking their pieces. More pieces the better. If that story went on for a few years, the eventual match where there was only one match left to unite them all would be huge!
Damn, now that's a concept
Thats... Briliant. I wanted to hate it but damn. That would be epic.
Sounds pretty complex, i think i need a diagram just to follow lol
Interesting idea, but there is no way you would ever get that many promotions to cooperate for that long.
Isn't that damn near what the Aztec Medal gimmick was for that Gift Of The Gods belt in Lucha Underground?
ultimo dragon is literally the best and most decorated living wrestler.
I created my own J-Crown in WWE 2k18. It's the R-Crown. The R-Crown is the IWGP, CZW, NWA, WWE, TNA, CMLL, AAA, ROH, WCW, WWWF, ECW, LU and IWA. My R-Crown is 13 World Heavyweight Championships from 13 promotions.
That is too cool and great choices as well
Hold up WWE and WWWF are the same company so what's happening here
Im convinced that the 8 dislikes are from people of came up short from getting the J-crown
Whoever they are, trolls are gonna troll
Thank you for including kg in the weight classes
That was a last minute decision. I realized while I was editing that I have to give the global audience some love and represent the better measuring system which is metric.. wish the US would get on board
Your videos are a rabbit hole. It's so easy to just keep clicking.
Thank you such a great compliment!
Your knowledge of wresting is astonishing
Thank you so much, that does mean a lot
i've held a wrestling belt thats shits heavy. Much respect to Great Sasuke and Dragon
That's how Cruiserweights get their swoll on
Cool vid. Hmm, so when Vince was mad about Medusa dropping his woman's belt in the trash. He forgot that U.D. had his light weight belt on tv. lol. Cool vid. Kind of Cool to see Ayako Hamada's Dad with the belt. I have only seen Gran Hamada wrestle when he teamed with his daughter Ayako in Arson when they had a mix tag against Faby Apache and her dad Gran Apache. I saw this on DVD or a VHS tape. years ago. Back on topic. I liked Ultimo Dragon in WCW and he was fun to use in WCW/ NWO revenge for the N 64. Seems like a very cool curser weight belt idea. Was this or the triple crown champion ship Vader held in Japan created first? Once again cool vid. Can't wait to see your next vid.
The Triple Crown was first... Thanks!
Austin Aries stole the belt collector gimmick from Ultimo Dragon 🐉
The holder of the J Crown was a true World champion
I swear I thought back then they just had a bunch of random belts they gave Ultimo Dragon and BOOM J CROWN Champion back then lol I couldn't wrap my head around how someone could defend all those titles and still keep.the WCW schedule at least once a month? How in the heck did Eric Bischoff not know a wrestler of his had a WWF title that fell through the cracks when Vince Sr sold it to Vince Knowing him I'd think he have mentioned that on tv like Paul Heyman did after Brock Lesnar beat the streak just to make Vince look bad.
Good point, although he might have been a bit worried because WCW's legal team was on him about things like that after the Medusa incident
I bet Ted Turner's money behind him he'd risk it
That was the thing. Reports claim that WCW's Legal Team was willing to fire Bischoff at this time if he did anything like that on WCW TV. Turner's team was who was against it. This is also why Bret bringing the WWF title on WCW was never even a possibility
I remember hearing that somewhere
what if WCW did fire Bischoff while the company was #1? too risky.
Dragon was a monster 👍👍👍👍
Yeah he was!
Interesting note on the final of the J-Crown tournament. Sasuke actually fractured his skull doing a dive outside onto Dragon.
Which I'm sure somehow feels even worse than it sounds
The Great Susake was the last wrestler to hold both the WCW cruiserweight belt and the WWF light heavyweight championship at the same time . Soon after Vince McMahon Recalled his strap back to the US and went on to hold the tournament to crown a new Champ
Awesome video!
Very informative. Well laid out. As you went to lengths to get so many details for this, I don't feel like I'm nit-picking when I say the wrestlers name The Great Sasuke (pronounced sass-kay). Still love the "where is it now" to each title. Thanks for sharing, have a good day.
Thank you for enjoying. And yeah I tend to have problems pronouncing Japanese names at times. So thanks for the clarification
*sahss-kay
Ultimo Dragon should win the prestigious NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship because he and that prestigious Ten Pounds of Gold were both overseas on many different continents with Ultimo Dragon fighting the best of the best and that Title being defended all across the globe
Awesome channel I love wrestling history
Thank you so much and glad to have you here!!
Keep up the good work Dave ,loved ultimo dragon one of my fave junior heavyweights ever
Always wondered what the J-Crown was thanks for explaining
No problem, glad you found it useful
I'm glad you did the collaboration debate with Brian Zane. Without it, I wouldn't have discovered your channel. I love these videos. Thank you for making them.
Thank you so much and mad props to Zane. Always happy to hear someone being supportive
hey dave, dude one again my wig is strait blown right the fux off by ur knowledge of the subject ultimo was/is one of my favorite wrestlers from the 90s era i loved when he would come to the ring carrying his titles in a wheelbarrow and his matches with melinko forget about it they where all masterful, never got the full story on how he obtained all those straps just knew i would never see it again so thanks for the info and tribute to a true legend of wrestling, ur channels is the sh!t bro
Thanks so much for the kindness. Ultimo was straight amazing! Glad fellow fans can enjoy this vid
This is such a informative video I always wondered about this topic
So glad you got something out of it.. The J-Crown was always so fascinating to me!
Man, i love your content.
Thank you
Hey Dave, just found out about your channel through WWW. I like your content, subbed!
Thank you so much to BZ and to YOU for the sub! Glad you are part of the team!
Would of been nice to see a picture of each belt on screen as you talked about them.
hey man, I just saw your video with www and I gotta say, it is so typical for the bigger channels to just bury all the newcomers lmao
I loved the video and I love your style, I'll be sure to stick around and watch you grow.
Sincerely,
A TH-cam Mark
Thank you so much for the kindness and the support.. I am a fellow TH-cam Mark too
Lol i used to have a sick taka action figure when i was a kid. The ones with the slide thing that makes their arm go up and down.
Sweet! I miss action features on action figures.. then again I haven't bought an action figure in forever, so as far as I know they still have them
Oh buddy me too. I had hundreds. Even some of the completly rubber ones!
This guys gonna blow up after the WWW cameo
Thank you so much, I sure hope so... mad props to BZ
so dave did you ever did the history of dragongate wrestling ? just wanted to know thank you so much again for the
great video.
I have not gotten around to it as of yet and thanks for appreciating this vid
Great Channel.Great Content.👏👏👏
Thank you so much! I am very glad you are here!
That was pretty cool to break down all the titles that were in the J-Crown as i do remember watching a few matches off of WCW where Ultimo Dragon held that title .Have that match with Gedo and Chris Jericho when they fought to crown the WAR International Jr. Heavyweight Champion plus have a few matches with Jericho as champion defending that title against Ultimo Dragon . Remember watching a few matches from the 80's where the WWF Jr. Heavyweight Title was defended .Believe it was The Cobra against Black Tiger though be wrong . Can only imagine how much of a pain it would have been to carry those titles through customs in airports .Problably would needed at least 3 suitcases to carry all those belts . LMFAO! Since we are on this subject do you think that a title like this could be done again or would the politics between wrestling companies be too great to do such . Peace and outta here .
I would love if a title like this could be done again. And while WWE would probably never go for it, I think ROH or NJPW could def get it done
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Well considering that both do talent exchanges and have that ppv by ROH War Of The Worlds not to mention that huge MSG show next month with both companies being featured it's not a completely crazy idea for them to do such . Think if ROH was to create a Jr.Heavyweight Title and unify it with NJPW think of the matchups that could be done . I have seen that there will be the ROH Vs NJPW Tag Team Title Match with The Briscoes Vs G.O.D. which imo will be a show stealer . 1 can only hope .
Ultimo Dragon the GOAT. It's sad a lot of people will remember his Wrestlemania match more than anything else he did.
Hopefully, this will help ppl remember his J Crown run instead
I never thought that a junior light heavyweight championship could exist. THAT IS SO COOL.
It is a very specific weight class isn't it
Brian Zane brought me here!
WELCOME! Thanks to Brian and Thanks to you for being here!!
Both Tna And ROH should promoted UD like crazy because he would have been a great champion for them when others were leaving for WWE. Loved watching him wrestle and not sure I saw his stint in WWE. WCW should have pushed him to be tag team and us champion as well.
He was a bit past his prime at the point. So I can understand why that didn't happen. But yes he is a great watch
Nice vid. Way to break down the championships 💪🏻
You should create content on the wwe 2k franchise. With all your knowledge u would kill
Thanks you for taking the time to say so
Ultimo Dragon my favorite wrestler
Good pick
NWA WCW made the light heavyweight championship then in the late 90s curated the WCW Cruiserweight belt the J Crown championship which I have respect very well with the early WWF Junior heavyweight belt then later they jump WWF light heavyweight belt with matches of tiger mask in WWF going after that championship the junior heavyweight belt with matches against like Dynamite Kid and the cobra
Brother Dave, where can I find a full version of J crown 95???
Good question.. I would like to know myself
I got mine through Highspots. Can’t remember if it was a VHS or DVD rip! Also if you do watch it, they had the intro bit where Liger had the wrestlers put their belts in the middle of the ring and then walk out to symbolize their inclusion in the tournament, but it looks like there are NINE titles there!!! I’ll see if I can find my copy to see.
Unfortunately the way wrestling promotions and members of the fanbase treat other weight classes outside heavyweight is a sign that parts of industry is still stuck in the past because they view anyone who wins a heavyweight title be it NWA, WWE, IWGP or whatever makes you the top star, combat sports like Boxing or MMA would anyone who's a big money maker as the top star regardless of weight class, the biggest names in Boxing in the last few years were Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquio, while the biggest name in MMA right now is Connor McGregor and before that it was Anderson Silva several years earlier and both fighters fought in weight classes below heavyweight. The only part of the world that's an exception is Mexico but that's because it was the opposite as lighter classes were more popular than Heavyweight.
Come to think of it you can make a Monday Night Wrong video out of this idea to coincide with the upcoming McGregor vs Khalid fight at UFC 229.
I think the Super Jrs in New Japan is a great celebration of lighter weight classes.
@@DaveKnowsWrestling it is but New Japan still tends to push the IWGP champ as the top star
Question… how many World titles did Lou Thesz unite to have the NWA World title?
I always wonder how he won and was able to keep all them belts like that when I was growing up
Well glad I could help
I also thought it was just for fashion and show lol
I'm down to go with that trend
Gotta love Ultimo in the thumbnail
#1 Asai Moonsault
WWF/E were 'holes for that.
Yw
Wish ROH, NJPW, AJPW, Pro Wrestling NOAH, CZW, and NWA would bring this back.
Maybe throw ECCW, AAA, CMLL/EMLL, and Metro City Pro eventually
Maybe some day
i wish WWE makes a Tournament similar to the J-Crown Championship, & call it, the Grand Slam Tournament.
Now there's a tourny they have yet to do
Cool
Thanks
Awesome video.
IWGP jr heavyweight belt is the most prestigious in those belts
Thank you and NICE
FIRZEN FIRE. Thanks for Shiro Koshinaka for becoming first title holder and Shingiro Otani for becoming the last j crown chapion even after the champions got abanded Otani saved one and is the junior heaviweight champion which thats how it started the winners
Always loved the J Crown, but the wwf belt actually never made it on wcw tv. back then wcw hadnt yet reached that level of wwf bashing and throwing belts in trashcans lol
You can see the WWF title right in the pic
Can we back up to like 3:40, was that dude's name Black Houses?
José Casas Ruiz... used to wrestle as Pepe Casas Jr. then switching to being Black Casas. Casas as in his name, not as in plural for houses
nice page. I'll subscribe
Thank you so much and welcome to the Know-It-All Nation!
Wow bro, u never let ur subscription to PWI expire huh
Can you do a video comparing Ultimo Dragon Vs Santo?
Interesting comparison.. what made you want to see these two in particular?
Dave Knows Wrestling Ultimo has always been my favorite Luchador but I recently been reading and seeing videos of Santo and learned he was like a living god in Mexico.
A can u do one about martail arts wrestilng like in japan and england and all over
R
Not a bad idea
Damn to many j crown champs yeah
I'd be ready to see the belt come back
Dave you forgot to give us a link to your Pateron
I did. Good looking out. www.patreon.com/user?u=3883618
ultimo dragon follows Me on instagram!!!!
Lucky you!
Dave Knows Wrestling i just checked he unfollowed me
Sadness
@@DaveKnowsWrestling if shinjiro otani didn't vacated the J crown what would have happen
wait wait.. so are you telling me WWE didnt realize Ultimo Dragon had the WWF light heavyweight belt on TV during the monday night wars?! They didnt reclaim it until after Ultimo...
This seriously is one of the most humorously embarrassing things in WWE history. At least that how it seems they view it. Unlike other shameful moments, like Katie Vick for example, WWE will casual reference their screw ups at times. But they eradicated the lineage of this original title and brought a new light heavyweight title in just to cover up the existence of the first. Then they merged that belt with the cruiserweight title.
I got lost Dave apologies but thank you for the information anyways.
I remembered Ultimo Dragon he was in the place Where The Big Boys Played he had brought a different element but then sadly NWO came made him a jobber like so many underserving souls of those days
weird how everyone knows about ultimo dragon but no about the inaugural champ, the great sasuke
It is weird, but that I think is due to Ultimo having a bigger American presence and having 10 titles
Ultimo Dragon was over with me.
Then you have good taste
REALLY good topic for a video
Thank you! I thought this was such a fascinating topic too
Man all these belts have different weight limits, what's the common weight between all of them?? :P
Problem is they don't line up. There is no crossover at all for two of them
You should do a video on people who did wrestling but you wouldn’t believe they did like Abraham Lincoln
I did talk about Abe in one video.. but that's a good topic
Now kenny omega had 4 belts only 7 to go for surpassing ultimo dragon
I wouldn't count on that happening
4:21(numbers) 214 lbs- 236 lbs. Im sorry but what! 236 lbs is a Heavyweight I should know IM 240 A HEAVYWEIGHT! DONT LIE TO ME!
Ok I love this video but I have a nitpick because it drives me crazy when people mispronounce this. It’s SAS-KAY. Not Suzuki. I feel better now.
Apologies
and its the great "sas-u-ke"
Yeah, I struggle with Japanese names
j crown champion funny how there are 10 championships and j is the 10th letter of the alphabet
Funny? Or intentional?
Dave Knows Wrestling was it
now that I know what the j crown is, the whole 10 title at one time thing seems less impressive. I know it's silly since pro wrestling is pre-determined, and literally anyone could hold 10 titles if the companies cooperate/make enough titles. but still, if 8 of those 10 titles were all won in the same match, it's just no really the same...
May not be the same, but it is an accomplishment unto itself
the initial tournament win certainly is, as every participant would be a champion. but after that, the j crown was defended as one giant title. (except for the war belt, for some reason.) but even if we do consider it as 1 belt instead of 7, he means ultimo dragon still had 3 different titles, from 3 different companies, at the same time. and that is definitely an accomplishment unto itself.
still very impressive, but nearly as legendary as it seemed when I first saw him walk down to the ring with all those belts.
Love the content, but could you slow down a bit? You're giving me a headache! ^^
Sorry, guess my fast talking New York pace is not for everyone
The Great.... Suzuki???
How could ultimato dragon have the one belt in 1997 when he never got it until 1999🤔
i appreciate the knowledge but bro , it kills me when you pronounce the Great Sasukes name wrong . repeatedly when you apear to be oriental . i mean no disrespect or rascism dude and i hope i dont appear that way . but to me its disrespectful to mispronounce their names like that . but we all make mistakes . much love .
This proves how stupid WWF is you created a title it was on a world tour instead of you just using that and getting a story off of it. I would've gave em shit. This is why WWE is going in the toilet.
That happened decades ago. I don't think that's the reason