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African Violets - Barrina Full Spectrum Grow Light Update - 8 Months Later
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2022
- Featured in this episode is my 8-months experience of using Barrina Full Spectrum LED Grow Light to grow my African Violets collection.
Previous videos:
Barrina LED Full Spectrum Grow Lights - Installation & side-by-side comparison to LED Shop Lights: • Barrina LED Full Spect...
How Much Light Is Too Much Light for African Violets? Barrina Grow Light Testing Continued...: • How Much Light Is Too ...
Where I purchased my Barrina lights: www.amazon.com...
Thank you for the follow up!!! My Barrina grow lights fried my minis and semi minis. I hung two per shelf and didn’t catch the changes quickly. What a setback. It’s great to see that they can work well if the distance is correct. LED light technology today is really designed for marijuana growers who represent a large market. They need intense light for marijuana buds. I overlooked the Amazon review where a customer foretold that these Barrinas would be too intense for African violets, but on further inspection, the warning was there. Imagine how useful these lights would be if designed with a dimmer switch!!! Thanks so much for your video. I love learning from you.
Glad it was helpful. The dimmer switch on these would be awesome! Thanks for watching!
Very pleased to see this update. I wrote down the measurements and tomorrow will spend a lot of time making some major changes. Thanks very much.
Glad it was helpful! Happy growing!
WAOO ALL THOS BEUTIS TANKYOU FOR SHERING YOU EXPIRIENCE
Videos like this almost convince me to try a grow light. 🤷♀️. I would love my 6 violets to bloom more often. The variegation on your violets is like art. ♥️
Thank you, I love the variegated ones! The grow light has been a bit tricky for me, hope I have found a good setup for my plants now, worth trying, for sure!
Yay!! Thank you for taking the time to make an updated video about the lights. Your plants look so good and happy. 👍🏽
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
@@grayturtleviolets you're welcome
Have been watching your videos for a while now very informative .
Learning a lot from you , keep up the great work your doing .
Retiring soon going to have lots of time to spend in the plant room.
Adding a African Violets section because your collection is
" AWSOME "
Thanks so much, glad they are helpful! African Violet section is a must, they are totally worth growing!
Thank you for the update. Such beautiful foliage on both the variegated & non-variegated varieties! Happy to see them bounce back and look so healthy!
Glad you enjoyed them! Appreciate your feedback!
Thank you for your update about your lighting adjustment and glad it is working. Always to lovely to see the blooms and foliage. My collection is starting to bloom, I used your potting soil recipe and it is working great. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed them! You are very welcome, that is so good to hear! Happy growing!
I have a request for videos down the road. How about a series on hybridizers, with videos of their plants from your collection? “Meet the Hybridizers” could include those from the past who made significant contributions, those on a roll today, and newbies making their mark. It would be so nice to see actual video of their varieties. Many of the popular hybridizers today have a specialty, such as color or leaf type, which would be helpful information. Our favorite varieties hybridized long ago might have similar varieties by the same hybridizer, and so an attached list would be a great resource. For example, I love my trailer Cirelda” and would like to know more about Pat Tracey and her other trailers. I realize this information could be ferreted out online, but you are a great storyteller and videos make it so enjoyable. :)
Excellent idea, that’s a great topic for a new series! Adding to my video production list! Thank you!
Wanted to let you know, found the lumens for barrina grow light, 2 ft is 700 LM, 3 ft is 1200 LM and 4 ft 2900 LM, that’s why 2 4 ft lights was too much, thought you wanted to know and other people too😊
Very helpful, thank you for sharing!
Beautiful! So glad that you found the perfect set up. Thanks for sharing.
Happy to share! Thank you for watching!
Love to see these videos!
Thank you! Glad you like them!
Hello!! Beautiful collection!! Happy blooming!!
Thanks so much! Appreciate your feedback!
Thanks for this video. I’ve learned a lot from you and greatly appreciate your thoughtful sharing.
Happy to share what I’ve learned with fellow AV enthusiasts! Thank you for watching!
Always enjoy the follow up videos. What are the domed looking holders? Are they for leaves of new babies? Thanks
Those are plastic dessert cups with lids, I use them to propagate leaves. Thank you for watching!
@@grayturtleviolets great idea !
It's great that the plants can get back to being healty again, when the light is adjusted ! 🤗 And it's always a joy to see your beautiful blooms and the beautiful foliage of your variegated African Violets ! 😍🤗
I have many African Violets by a south-west facing window. I have window foil on the glass to make the light less intense. That has worked other years for a mix of other house plants. But the light turned out to be too intense for the African Violets... 😢 So today I removed some burned leaves. 😢 And I also mounted blinds in the window, so now I just have to remember to use them on sunny days... It will be interesting to see how fast the African Violets improve !
Appreciate your feedback! Adding blinds is a great idea, mine started getting sunburn even on the east-facing window, on hot and sunny days, so I am keeping most of my plants away from the windows, except the north-facing one. Hope they bounce back in no time!
Can I add a question ❓ This year I have many African violets grown from leaves. The plants now have "grown-up size, some are blooming beautifully, but some hybrids are not producing flowers. Is there a trick to make them bloom ? If there is one (or several) trick(s), maybe that could be the theme for a video ??? Or maybe you haven't had this problem ???
@@britl.1822 That’s a great idea for a new video, thank you! Definitely got some stories to tell, from my own growing experience!😊 Adding to my video production list.
Great ! 👍🤗
Love your videos. I have learned a lot from them.
Thank you, appreciate your feedback!
Hi! I was wanted to ask if you can make a video about why AV don't bloom . I have some babies that are full with leaves but no blooms till now.They are one and half years old. Thank you very much!
That’s a great idea for a new video, adding it to my production list. Thank you for your feedback!
Thanks for this update! Remember months ago you showed some of the violets creating a tight crown and stiffed leaves. What did you do with them? Did they just recovered with the new system of distance or you had to repot them? I have distanced the light as well now. Thanks so much !!!
Most of them recovered after repotting, burned leaves removed, and light distance adjusted. I haven’t had any issues with this grow light since then, my AVs thrive growing here, especially the variegated ones!
@grayturtleviolets that is great! I just repotted 5 and lifted the light to a distance of 16inch as well. Thanks for your advice. I had no issues with burnt leaves. But I saw crowded crowns with small leaves in the center. Also I had the light on for 12 or 14 hours sometimes. I had no idea about the stiffness of leaves. Thank you so much for teaching us . I think you are a pro now. Your dedication is admirable.
@@charocflores Thank you for your kind words! Happy growing!
Love your plants especially the Cleopatra beautiful foliage do you wick thease or wick
Thanks! I wick-water most of my episcia plants and they seem to like it. I’ve been trying it with Cleopatra, as well, although this one still grows better for me in a bubble terrarium.
Thank you for the video!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
Thanks! I’ve been growing my violets using the wide spectrum LED’S from the Botanical LED’s website & I cannot get them to bloom! I moved them further from the crowns of the plants cause they’re getting too much light. So, i moved the fixtures to 9” from the crown of the plant & the lights are on for only 8 hours a day & now no blooms! This is frustrating cause i used to grow them over 40 years ago with no problem. Thats when there were in my basement light Flora Cart using T12 Fluorescent one cool white & one warm white! Now, I cant grow then using the wide spectrum lights! Any ideas would help immensely- Thanks so much!! Oh, the manufacturer of those LED’s gave me that info on the spacing & time under the lights
I would start by measuring the light intensity first - the lights may have proper light color temperature, but their light intensity might be too low for African Violets to bloom. I use a free Lux LightMeter app to measure mine. Still learning about full spectrum LEDs, here are the regular LED setups that have worked for me best: th-cam.com/video/axTu2oq2Uy4/w-d-xo.html
@@grayturtleviolets thanks! The wide spectrum LED’s I use bloom my orchids so that’s why they are to bright for AV’S.
Thanks!
My Led grow lights have the option of choosing white, red and or blue light. I can do any combo. Do you suggest one that would be best for African Violets? Love your channel, and thank you for your advice.
@@meghanplamondon8639 Appreciate your feedback! Here is a video about all of my light setups, including pinkish white and yellow grow lights, hope you find it helpful: th-cam.com/video/8evlmRe58Fc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lrxjlJnv8dR9lroP
What is your opinion on clip on grow lights? Are they strong enough for African Violets? I only have 2 plants in a garden window that is situated under a deck. I only get direct sunlight just as the the sun is coming up in the morning. The rest of the time there is only a small amount of indirect light. My violets are rather spindly and the flowers are few and far in-between. I'm hoping to be able to buy something to help my plants become more robust. I recently cut the crown from the root, removed the blooms, scraped the stem and planted it in 50/50 peat and perlite. I placed the pot into a large plastic bag and so far, after 2 weeks, it is doing well. I've been growing A.V. on and off for many years but I never knew that you could cut off the lengthy stem and replant. I learnt how to make new plants from leaf cuttings from my mother but I have learnt so much more from watching your chanel on how to care for these lovely violets. My violets are just what I purchased from the local shops here in California, nothing too special but beautiful just the same.
Glad it’s been helpful, happy to share my growing journey with fellow enthusiasts! I haven’t used clip on grow lights myself. With the lights I’ve used it’s been a matter of observation, to see how plants react, and then adjust as needed. I do use two different kinds of full spectrum grow lights. First, I placed them too close, once I adjusted the distance as discussed in this video, they have been doing great!
Thanks so much for this update. 8 months ago you showed quite a number of violets with a tight crown. Did they fix on their own with this new setting? or you had to replant them. If so, would you make a video on how to fix the tight crown? I had this issue and put those under natural light . Other are still under the light , but at a further distance as you did. None are doing better and the tight crowns persist. Do I need to replant them? Thanks so much in advance!
Excess light being one of several possible causes of tight crowns, if they don't get better after adjusting the light settings, my next guess would be to check for nutrient deficiency and micronutrient toxicity. I talk about it in this video: th-cam.com/video/YbAROKrhDW0/w-d-xo.html. If tight crowns are caused by nutrient imbalance, I usually propagate the healthiest looking leaves and toss the main plant, if the damage to the crown center is too severe to rectify on its own. Other possible causes for tight centers include mite infestations, low growing temperatures below 60 degrees F, etc.
@@grayturtleviolets This comment was 3 weeks ago and by now I am happy to report most of the ones that had tight crown are getting better. Others never had tight crown and still fine. Meaning it wasn't the nutrients. But I lifted the lights more and only give 9 to10 hrs. of artificial light now. Thanks so much for your help. I did what you showed on your video of lights. It helped. 🙂
@@charocflores Glad it’s worked out! Happy growing!
Love your videos! I am a newbee to the hobby of raising AV! How much Lux do you recommend at 15" away from Brrina light source using the app Lux?
Welcome to the hobby! The app renders various results, at 12 inches distance, immediately under the light: from 300-800 lux, so I would imagine it would do the same at 15 inches away from the light, except it might render lower lux parameters. Also not sure how accurate the Lux LightMeter app is. I am not a pro, just guessing the lux variation at the same distance might be caused by different strength in individual led elements. To add to the challenge, it measures different lux at various spots on the shelf located not immediately under the light. I started using Barrina full spectrum 3 years into the hobby, and based on my own challenges with this light type, I would not recommend it to a new grower. Here are the regular LED setups that worked for me best: th-cam.com/video/axTu2oq2Uy4/w-d-xo.html. Happy growing!
Appreciate your advice about using a different light setup but I have already purchased the Barrina lights and shelving unit.
I get various readings, in different locations, using the app as well. I was using the app wrong to begin with. I had the camera of the phone pointing downward towards the shelf so I could see the screen on my phone. The correct way is to have the camera lens pointed up at the light. I rest my phone face down on a box 12” away from the light. Then I do a screenshot and look at the picture to get the lux reading. Directly under the light the average reading is about 20,000 lux. Approximately 6” to either side away from center I get an average of 4,000 lux. This is just one light bulb. I removed one light from each shelf like you recommended in your video using the Barrina full spectrum lights with stand.
Perhaps the lux app isn’t accurate and the true lux readings would be much different. I believe 10,000 lux is what they recommend for African violets.
How much light is too much? Perhaps just one Barrina full spectrum light is too much light for some African Violets?
You have beautiful plants and obviously have the right amount of light in the right spectrum. You say your not an expert but your African violets are saying you are!
@@rayscroggs4487 Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it! Most of the plants that I show grow under regular LED shop lights, with some natural light throughout the day. Based on my observation, the amount of light they need also depends on the variety, some like more light, and others prefer less light. There are also some that do well only in natural light, in my case those are Optimara hybrids. Always so much to learn, that’s what makes growing them a fun hobby!
Just FYI there are some new led bulbs that are white, do not need reflectors and do not put out enough heat to burn. If interested. Look up LED Botanicals. I use them for both orchids and violets. I do not get paid. Just sharing. I missed it, what are size of your shelf unit? Thanks!
Mine is TRINITY 4-Tier | 48Lx18Dx72H. Thank you for the light tip, will check it out!
@@grayturtleviolets thanks. I thought so, yours is wider than mine but same height.
Thank you for such an informative video! Your violets are so beautiful and healthy! I just got the same grow lights and am wondering if I remove the reflectors, I will be able to have the African Violets closer to the grow lights since the intensity of the light should be lower? I'm just restarting my collection so I only have a bunch of leaves right now in my propping station.
The manufacturer says reflectors increase light intensity by 17-20%, so removing them might work, in terms of making the light less intense. Although looking at the light bulbs not covered by reflectors might be tasking for human eye, I imagine. Appreciate your feedback!
@@grayturtleviolets Great info on the light reflectors. I will add that to my TO DO list.🐢
Before you started using the Barrina lights were you using regular fluorescent lights for your violets? How do you compare the grow lights to the regular fluorescent lights? The grow lights are very expensive. Is the additional cost worth it in the way the plants respond?
When I started my new AV collection back in 2019, I inherited a vintage plant stand, shown in My African Violets Setup - Stands and Lights video, with fluorescent light fixtures. I checked out the fluorescent vs. LED lights comparison when I got it, and was able to find the LED light bulbs compatible with the vintage stand's fluorescent light fixtures. The reason I went for the LED vs. fluorescent was purely economical, as LED lights are known to be up to 80% more efficient, and last much longer than the fluorescent light bulbs - so later, I opted to go for LED fixtures when purchasing lights for my other stands/shelving units, as well. As far as their effects on my plants - my knowledge is purely empirical here, from what I can tell, each variety responds differently. Some grow well under regular LED 5000K shop light, others prefer full-spectrum LED grow light, and others prefer natural light, especially the Optimara and the vintage varieties.
Nice! How many hours are they on for?
10 hours a day, 9am-7pm
Where do you find your plastic for your wire shelves?
My shelving units came with liners, so I didn’t have to purchase them separately. I’ve seen wire shelf liners sold on Amazon, worth checking there.
@@grayturtleviolets bingo. That’s the correct name. Thank you
A few quick question about Noids . Can you give them a name of your choosing? Does every plant someone is wanting to enter into a violet show require a name? (Do they have a Noid division) Finally, how do you go about getting a A.V. a name from the A.V. Society? Thanks 😊(do you have to have more than one) like with other crosses,hybrids to be given a name. Ex daylily
etc.....
As far as naming African Violets in your own collection that were acquired without name tags - for personal use, you can give them any name you want. However, if you plan on exhibiting them or distributing them, e.g. sharing with friends, selling, featuring them on social media, etc. - they shall remain unnamed, or No IDs. Entering plants in shows is based on the rules of the show organizers. As far as creating your own hybrids, check out the Plant Registration Information on the AVSA website: africanvioletsocietyofamerica.org/participate/plant-registration/
@@grayturtleviolets on another site a grower said a plant needs to consistent, be stable for 3 years before it can be named,or given a name by the African Violet society? Is this correct, part, or not at all? J
@@joegraue8615 I haven’t tried hybridizing myself, but you can learn more about it on this AVSA page, lots of great info there: africanvioletsocietyofamerica.org/learn/violets-101/hybridizing-african-violets/
I'm a beginner. What leaves are described as suckers?
Suckers are small secondary crowns growing sidewise on the main stem of a single-crown variety. In this video, I show how I remove them, during regular AV grooming: th-cam.com/video/WzfWs2ln4b0/w-d-xo.html
@grayturtleviolets thank you! Yes, I did see it, right after I sent the question. Thank you for your reply. You are very informative and helpful!!!