Royal Enfield Scram 411 vs Himalayan: Which Is The Right Bike For You? | ZigWheels
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Currently, Royal Enfield offers two not-so-very different flavours when it comes to adventure motorcycles. While the hardcore Himalayan 450LC is still some time away, we take a look at the current Himalayan and the new Scram 411. We ride the two bikes around back to back to help pick the better option by considering 5 riding scenarios.
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00:00 Introduction
00:44 The Better Commuter
01:40 The Better Tourer
02:50 Better For Pillion
03:16 More Fun Bike
03:40 The Better Off-roader
04:44 Save Or Spend?
Riding Gear
Helmet: Scorpion VX-15 Evo Air
Jacket: Royal Enfield Streetwind V2
Pants: Rynox Stealth Evo Pants
Gloves: Rynox Gravel Dual sport Gloves
Boots: Forma Adventure
Host: Jehan Adil Darukhanawala
DOP: Nikhil Rege
Editor: Rigved Ranade, Lokjeet Rana
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450 450 and 450 !! All eyes 👀 are on that 🤘🤘
First ever liquid cooled engine in RE
@@sivasankar4514 yes, let's see how this pans out .
Next year it is😔
2023 😐
Shouldn't be a disappointment.
Great video! I love the bikes riding side by side!! big difference is the position of the pegs. The scrambler is more of a sport bike feel with your legs towards the rear. Himalayan is very comfortable with your legs virtually straight down. The scrambler has more performance And definitely street bias. However, The Himalayan is dripping with personality
Luv RE
Sol Cali USA😅
When the world needed this comparison...they came...😅🤣
Wonderful! I'm also looking for the Scram or the next Himalayan 450!
Bro ur video editing is outstanding 👍 good work.. with good information
Thanks for the comparison, am looking at getting the Scram to review on my channel here in Australia.
What a edit & reviewing ❤️🔥 love it ..🤩
Last year, I was in manali for two weeks and ran both bikes for around 400km each so I will say on the basis of that Scram is way better in maneuvering and have a better acceleration then himalayan.
Yur video hepls me a lot thnks sir 🖤🖤
I have a scram 411 for 6 months now its true what you guys just said 🤩🤩
I personally like the name for the scram 411. Kinda sets it apart from the himalayan witch it should one more of a scrambler ones more of an adv. The name fits the bike and has a better ring the himalayan light
Nice video guys, question, can the scram suspension be altered in any way to make it slightly better off road?
The smaller, wider tire on the Scram will do better in loose dirt and mud. I've been waiting for them to make a stripped down version of the Himalayan. I like the himi but don't really want that adv look.
great comparison of both bikes...
Hi Guys, thank you very much for making this comparison video; I'm test riding a Himi this afternoon to help me decide which one I should buy.
Which one did you go for?
@@shubhranshpoonia Hi there friend, I went for a Lake Blue 2022 Himi I which I love. She is now 10 days and 950 kms old. FANTASTIC BIKE.
I have put bar-risers and a comfort seat.
@@Dave-in-France amazinggg I’ve booked graphite black himi, it will be home any day now🥹
I would like to know if i can change out the Himalayan speedometer cluster with the newer one from the scrambler. I hope its a plug a play situation???
Waiting for the spicy one , hope you include the duke 250 adv and cb350 rs as well which fall in pretty much the same price bracket
@@bawabiker Thanks for considering
Hey, please show us the accessories mounted on scrambler what you mentioned at the end
The orange motorbike at the end of the vid? which one it is?
I like the look of both; I would like to see RE bring out a model of either, with, for the sake of argument, another 25bhp
- to make life easier on European roads, where having some extra zip can make riding much safer for the rider
Supposedly there is a Himalayan 450 that is being factory tested and refined now for a 2024 release.
I bought the 2023 scram 411 for all the reasons mentioned it’s a great bike with a Harris engineering designed frame. Fuel consumption is brilliant comfort is fantastic. Disconnect the rear abs sensor buy a 21” spare front wheel and it’s as good off road as the Himalayan is. All bits on the bs6 appear to be interchangeable. I fitted a touring rack and soft bag that fits neatly on the rack. I wonder what the upcoming Himalayan 450 will be like with double the bhp and a 6 speed gearbox will be bland and loose the charm that the air cooled 411 has?
But y does scram gives less in mileage than Himalayan 411
Thanks for showing that manual switch off ABS
Does the scram 411 and himalayan have same engine heat while riding in traffic..?
If i am not regular off-roading rider then which bike i should by from these two ?
2:24 sick Transition
Is it liquid cooler engine if it's not what is the use
Can plz tell me about engine heating issue. Because I am going to buy this bike for my daily usage. Per day Avg 50km i have to drive. For my office I have to drive 22km to reach. Up and down 45km per day. So plz tel me bike heating and city milage..
Alloys as optional??
Himalayan anytime 💪🏼
Can you send the link of your Tshirt from Decathlon, looks cool
What is that rear wheel cage on the scram called?
Can anyone tell me the location of this video?
Best reviewer
i was confused bw these two awesome RE's,
thank you i finally made it to my decision
What did you get my friend
@@pinoyobserver1190 Himalayan is better if you have enough budget
Can I get a solution for wind blast in scram
Just booked white flame. 😎
Why zigwheels is missing Yezdi Scrambler review ?
Iam 5 ft 6 inch tall and i need your suggestion to choose between Scram 411 or the Himalayan,as iam more into city ride but bit confused as the looks of Himalayan is more appealing to me.
I own a Himalayan, i have never used a Scram. From what i understand the seat height is shorter on the Scram by less of an inch, so probably it's not much of a factor. The biggest difference is the 21in front wheel on the Hima vs the 19in wheel on the Scram.
In my experience riding the Himalayan in developed city is not awesome, but for a bad streets it's pretty good. To corner you need to really push the handlebar and the trajectory doesn't just automatically set in as it does with scooters. The handlebars are a little wide for lane filtering at stoplights.
It's a bit like riding and overweight dirt bike, it will go absolutely everywhere, it will eat potholes, unpaved streets will mean nothing, it will ride over curbs, drains, lesser riders... So it's not tremendously fun in a big developed city, but if you live in a city with poor roads, the Himalayan will go absolutely everywhere, while still be a little overwheight.
If you want an absolute city slayer look for CVT scooters, supermotos or even dual sports. The Scram will be more manouverable than the Himalayan in the city, but still retain much of the weight, which is the real problem in tight quarters. If you like the look of the Himalayan better and can use a slightly higher seat height, it will work about as well as the Scram. But still these aren't awesome city bikes, they have other strenghts.
Why Royal Enfield doesn't offer with 6th speed gear box?
Can we travel to Ladakh on scram 411?
🙋🙋Can you put a comparison between ride quality and probable maintenance issues between RE Meteor and Scram? Because most people will be able to buy only one motorcycle for their rides. Which one should they buy between Meteor and Scram? 🙏🙏 @zigwheels?
Meteor is good cruser but ride hieght is very low and it has some prob in its engine spark plug too scram is good commuter too in city rides as well as offroad add one windscreen to scram enough it ll be a good cruser .
If u want cruser bike simmiler ro meteor 350 have a small look on java too u ll be stunned java as lanuched few good crusers which r very very eye catching . Dont mine if i hurt ur feelings some people r realky mad at royal enfild and people have stopped thinking practically . I kown it has emotions but according to me best bikes of re r himalyan , 650 twins , and super meteors remaming bikes r not tht good , bullet and clasic ware good before now company has chnaged tht
i am exploring the
buying the used Honda 500x instead.
old owner buying frica twin
so you would make the scram into a himalayan?
Being 6.2 feet height
Which is more suitable for me?
Himalayan is the best looking Indian bike.
If u make some mods
It’s a head turner on road.that’s what I want.
Then other things won’t bother.
But seriously guys I love my himalayan
I will most probably by the scram but right now I own the Himalayan, but it would be stupidity if I sell Himalayan & buy scram, rather what I would do is lower my Himalayan & change the front rim & tyre to 19inches & I have the scrambler ready
The red and white looks good but that white visor doesn't. A metal grey visor would look better
@@jacobjashwanthpatoju4849 visor like thingy. Anything it is resembles visor that's why I said it. Its more like a plate or something.
Nice video
Highway mileage less than city mileage.how come that possible
one more comparison between Yezdi scrambler and RE scram 411
Zigwheels is the new Powerdrift!
more or less they have the same Department running them,
Royal Enfield is love. The pride of our country🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Himaaaaaaalayan all day long .....mmmm i do have a himalayan😉😂 atb from UK....
A scram 250 would be best iny case 😁
The 411cc engine on the Hunter would be great instead of the 350cc... Just a thought...
+1
I'm no speed junky but just an extra
15/20 kph more top end speed on the meteor / hunter and it be ideal.
*Crap Game*
Tubeless tyres options milega??
Not available in Himalayan
Scram 411 can 6feet height person can drive with comfortable
Without any back pain
What can be the reason for less mileage in the city??????
Frequent use of brake and clutch in traffic.
My height is 5.7 inch,🥺🥺 so please suggest me which should I take,,, scram or Himalayan?
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Hello, i am 180cm, 5ft11in, not much taller than you and i have short legs. I have a Himalayan and i can flat foot it very easily. I have not used a Scram, but from what I read the seat height is only 3 cm shorter, so not much difference for someone in our height range.
I can tell you that the frame of the Himalayan, and by extension, the Scram is very comfortable for a full size adult. But if i were taller the seat length would be too short.
Your choice on which one you like the best.
What I will do, search for next bike review,😂
Can that windscreen be fitted to scram?
I removed the windscreen and top fender on my Himalayan and there is now much less wind buffeting in my face, so it's more enjoyable and less fatiguing at speed.
I think we can switch the suspension between these two bike with one another.
Well to be frank 10mm less travel won't be much of a difference for us regular people..
I have personally ridden both and chose himalayan over scram coz of softer suspension.I have seen ytbers mentioning both bikes have almost same soft suspension.But personally I felt scram to be stiffer .
@@BruceLee-go2vy I test rode both yesterday at one of the showrooms in my city. I preferred the Scram for its more nimble and lively character. The changes really do help improve the city riding experience. But yes, the Himalayan would edge out over the Scram off road. It really is a matter of taste. Oh, and I have two Dukes so I am used to a slightly stiffer suspension and sometimes prefer it. The front end definitely feels a little more surefooted in tight maneuvers.
@@twowheeledparadox The only reason I took Himalayan over scram was because of its suspension.But after seeing the news about himalayan 450 I'm slightly worried whether himalayan 411 will be discontinued and run out of parts in future 😥
@@BruceLee-go2vy You can find difficulty in finding parts for the Continental GT 535 but not the Himalayan. The GT sold poorly in India and was in production for a short while. The Himalayan on the other hand has done well and they have just launched the Scram so you won't have to worry about parts availability. And yes, the Himalayan suspension has its own advantage, especially off road. My head says I should get a Himalayan while my heart says Scram. It is a matter of personal taste.
Compare it with the yezdi scrambler if you dare
not needed brother, Yezdi scrambler looks and feel more like a proper scrambler and this Scram is nothing more but a strip down Himalayan which in no way looks like a Scrambler, RE scram 411 is launch just to put out confusion among buyers such that people dont go much in to Yezdi but give more options to downgrade the new kid in town, It's more of a psychological thing and a marketing strategy on RE part to cut down sales of Yezdi/Jawa and well its a winner for RE marketing department as most of the Paid review channel as always go gaga over the RE product sugar coating every RE product, Watch Sagar Sheldakar (ex Powerdrift rider) famous Powerdrift Daytona rider* reviewing Yedzi Adventure and the mainstream reviews, you'll get the point.
I'm grazy with scram11..
Is the Scram tubeless ?
please please get an xpluse into these comparos just to rub it
Honestly guys i love my Himalayan bike
Too bad the Scram hasn't made it to the US yet.☹
I’m confused which one need to buy Himalayan or scram without money thinking 😂😂
Spend 11k more and make the Scram a Himalayan???
Das Lampen-Finish der Scram 411 gefällt mir nicht. Es passt überhaupt nicht zu der ansonsten wunderschönen Maschine. Herzliche Grüße aus Deutschland.
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Add a windshield and make it look like a Himalayan 🤣 what sense does it make then getting the scram 🤦🏼♂️
scram has a lower handle bar height and lower front suspension travel
I already have the Himalayan ... but honestly, nothing about the Scram interests me. If I did not have the Himalayan, I would not buy the Scram. The 350 Classic is much better looking for a bike that is not going to have a lot of off road.
No man, the one who wants Himalayan WILL buy Himalayan. Everyone else is waiting for the Hunter.
And yeah, these bikes need to seriously come with alloy wheels as tubeless tyres are the only way forward. The new RE350 looks good in spoke wheels but not in alloys. So RE needs to take care of this point with the Hunter.
I wanted the Himalayan but now I want the Scram. The riding experience is different enough for some people.
@@bawabiker let it come and the we will see. I am assuming it to have the same engine behavior as that of Meteor, looks we have already seen in the spy shots
@@twowheeledparadox ok, now you said that, I am watching this video 😀
Bro hunter definitely comes spoke wheel, its done .
@@amiyachourasiya Haha!
Now different is 100k
How is the clutch ?
Himalayan has a very stiff clutch which makes it difficult for me to drive it in stop and go traffic
I really hope, that for the next gen Himalayan they increase the power and torque figure while loosing around 5kg weight.
I test rode both of these bikes yesterday and didn't notice difficulty in pulling the clutch lever. I went there on my BS4 390 Duke which has a one-finger clutch. I suspect that the clutch throw is as heavy as it used to be.
Surprisingly the scrambler is more height...
every R.E bike is right ...
...screm is tiny machine...if you want to feel the adventure in your life go for.... Himalayan .... Planning to buy it...but after a test ride ....on Yesterday...i must say it sucks....
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Where the f did u guys get the scram from ??
Bro it's been on sale since 15th March.
They also have ton of stock, I bought mine on Sunday, delivered in 1 hour lol
@@fsyk1306 what mileage are you getting
@@abhisheiksharma8579 haven't tested it out perfectly yet bro, only driven about 50KM yet, didn't get a chance. I'm planning to go on a long drive tomorrow morning or this weekend to test it out, but they did give me 5L petrol on delivery, and since it's running period I'm not going above 60kmph on 5th gear so getting decent mileage around 32-35 I think.
I'll update here on Saturday after full analysis when I drive on highway :)
@@fsyk1306 May i ask why you chose scram over himalayan?
@@BruceLee-go2vy I didn't compare it with Himalayan. I was comparing it with Honda CB350RS and H`ness.
Plus I also took it for daily city ride to office nearby and occasional road trips during the weekends. So 411 CC was perfect combination for my requirement. As for Himalayan, it's also heavier and I do prefer the look of the new Scram, it looks pretty cool :)
plus the 19 inch front wheel makes it much easier to cut through traffic, it's no nimble and easy to maneuver
0:25 of course it is visor to pay a little lower for the same bike
Bdum tssss
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Scram is rip off for what all it doesn't offer. Techo, Navi, switchable abs, windshield... The list is for approx 35k and it gives discount of only 10k
Me thinking about yezdi Scrambler 😑😑
Not as smooth as the Scram 411. I test rode them both yesterday. Really surprising since the Yezdi has a short stroke engine.
@@twowheeledparadox yes! Both have different characteristics engines....
Scram haha rinding in the City give more mileage than Highway😅😅
हिमालयन इस बेस्ट 🚩
I saw Mercedes
you are promoting scram...but Himalayan is far better
Friends, trust me Dominar 400 is better than these 2 motorcycles. Very comfortable and very fast. Top speed is above 160. Better cornering and looks MACHO....Delhi on Road price around 2.6.....
But in hilly area this two bikes will fark away dominar 😂 by the way both have Same crushing speed 100,110 so in high way also no much difference.
Yeah dominar 400 is a beast
Fkin ads
It's not scram, it's a scam.🤣🤣🤣
Har channel ko English he jhanda hai ,
I have watched 20+ videos but, No one told me that is there is possible tubeless Tyre and alloy wheels installation in this bike.