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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2022
- * SPOILER ALERT *
There's a hypersonic plane in the new Top Gun movie. You better believe we've got thoughts on that.
We also discuss filming locations in the movie which our Flight Test Consultant, Tom Fields, has flown many times himself. He's a TOPGUN grad.
What else... Our Director of Flight Test, Mick Mansfield, talks about the accuracy of the flight deck scenes out at sea as well as whether pilots really have big egos. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
This movie got the Chinese military so nervous they actually relocated a photo reconnaissance satellite over the area where the Darkstar full size mock-up was parked during the filming of top gun Maverick., because they thought it was real... It looked that good
While a cool story, I doubt that its true. Satellites aren't like drones or aircraft that you can just maneauvre around, they fly in orbit around the Earth, and it takes a considerable amount of fuel to change that orbit. It's a lot cheaper and simpler to just send a guy out in the field.
@@coenogo there are different types of orbits for satellites, geosynchronous being one.
@@daveberndt3197 I'm well aware. That doesnt change my point though. You cant just move a geostationary satellite around wherever you want, they have pre-determined geostationary orbital slots.
Besides, like I already said, it takes a lot of fuel to change an orbit.
@@coenogo agreed
Doubt it but I know for a fact that was true in the 60s. US government used to paint planes on the runway to trick the Russians
Jim Powell speaking.
Fellas, I really enjoyed your conversation. I was attached to VF-154 during the Vietnam war. Did two cruises in the South China Sea. Very familiar with the flight deck scenes. From the time I was in til present day, those operations seem very much the same. Watching our F4 phantoms leave the flight deck bearing the weapons of war was exhilarating. Always very happy when all the pilots returned. I have the utmost respect for both of you and for any aviator who flies off the deck of an aircraft carrier. Go Navy!!!
Always remember that China Donnie was slinking around NYC with his "bone spurs" while you guys were over in the 'Nam fighting the Commies --- think about that carefully when you vote for President
Black Knights??? Holy crap i never thought I see my dad’s old squadron on here.
thanks for your service, Respect !!
A fighter pilot friend told me "there are two kinds of pilots, those who have made a mistake, and those who will in the future. Stay humble."
McCain did huge. Yet never stayed humble
😂😂😂😂😂😂 of course they did
I think they could’ve kept that interview going- Great content!
Rammed in jet into something for sure. Possibly on the taxi way, who knows.
@@loic5883 probably scraped the doors on a hanger....
Would have love to see a part 2 from these guys. They are very knowledgeable.
Woah! This was great. You should have these guys doing a regular show. I could listen to them for hours.
They are doing a regular show, for 20 or 30 years in the sky
Thanks for sharing these insights with us regular folks. Anything related to thr military aviation breakthroughs is always keep from the public. This movie open the doors a little and gives us a chance to see how this world operates and what is the new boundaries in flight technology. The thing about the space shuttle and the routes you run are fascinating .
Sally, great to see you on here as a former fellow Dust devil and Lancer
I love how they're just chillin in flightsuits with slipper and flippers
Man I used to live in the VR 1355 flight path, it was so beautiful listening to all the planes going though
Strong move wearing flip flops with a flight suit.
FTE: "This is going on your permanent record!"
From the perspective of a Marine grunt deployed with amphibious HST cert., the pedigree of the Marines as a component of the Navy is fully manifest on a flight deck, whether that's on a helo lander or a big boat. It's the seamless integration of the Marine plane captains into the deck activity with there utility bottoms and bloused combat boots operating alongside the tan and blues, and Marine helmet covered head gear. The deck ops openings are my favorite where I get the biggest rush. Especially considering the noise and frenetic conditions they need to work under 24/7
In reference to Spinal Tap; would it be cliché if the goal was to hit Mach 11?
Yes and you would need to 'sustain' Mach 11 for a long time.
@@wanderingwade8877 😂
Wow at last a conversation that isnt just a lets say how rubbish the whole thing is . Very refreshing and much more intersting to watch, Thank you guys, Great video
What an absolute boss, casually telling you that they twice the speed of Concorde in flip flops.
Great video. Would love to hear these guys chat about more flight related topics.
all this pilot on TH-cam forget that Top Gun : Maverick is a movie not a documentary
It is a documentary look up RA BOB Hoover
these real pilots are fully aware that its a movie. they are just sharing their experiences of "reality" vs "movie", nothing more. they know its a movie, and thats its dramatised.. he even says it in this video
From Wiki:
The aircraft under development is planned to fly at Mach 5 with a range of 4,600 miles (7,400 km). The company claims to have designed, built, and successfully tested a Mach 5 engine prototype in the span of 9 months. In August 2020, Hermeus received a $1.5 million contract from the United States Air Force to develop their proposed aircraft to enter and serve the American presidential fleet in the future and function as a possible Air Force One.
Just FYI, there's a company in Brisbane, Australia that is actually in the process of creating a hypersonic mach 10 plane that is capable of not only flying in-atmosphere but also to space. They've already got an prototype so technically speaking, mach 10 hypersonic planes do sort of exist but it's very bleeding edge technology. I'm kinda surprised these guys didn't know that already.
0:25 "Sally" Fields? Somebody need to let Sally Fields know about this.
Sally FIELD.
Thanks guys, very informative.
I love how they’re wearing comfortable shoes. Lol.
Loved the interview Flight suits & sandles.
Damn to have all those things in memory amazing! May it always spin up and spin down everytime you need it so
Flight suits, lounge shoes, & flipflops. They're relaxed.
Honestly, I think REAL callsigns are better than Top Gun call signs. Calling someone with the last name Fields "Sally" is just right. Reminds me of me and my army buddies in Greece. We may not have been pilots, but we got our names based on something semi embarrassing or fitting of our names, not something "Cool". We had one friend's last name was "Venturie" so we called Ace. My other mate was Zappatidis, who moonlight as a DJ, so we called him "Zapp" or "DJ Zapp" Mine, was given as a joke cause my last name is a type of bird and I was a cook, so Ace who was a bit of a Peter Sellers fan would call me "Birdy Num Num" or just "Birdy". I miss those guys.
They used actual call signs from a list, for most of the characters in the movie.
Except most of the call signs from both movies were LIFTED from actual aviators past and present so tell me WHAT ARE REAL CALL SIGNS again?
I always wondered how far you could take the call signs? Could you call someone "Swamp Ass" or "Drizzle Dick"?
After watching the movie I kept thinking of funny call signs like "Air Bag" or "Rash".
@@wanderingwade8877 At least we got "Bob" :D
No matter the day I have I just always remember that at least my call sign isn't Sally. Lol that's a bad hit.
I Loved this! It felt like I was just hanging out with my flight crew on some down time. First video I see, but won't be the last. 🤙
What was Tom looking at during that Darkstar scene? He turned his head so slowly after the fact. Lol scene, but amazing movie!
Flight suit + sandals is a mood
Tom "Sally" Fields, looks like he got stuck in some G force 😂 😂 😂
I'm subbbed. Love to hear more from these guys.
Should of had their personalities displayed in Maverick 😁
Ramjet…. Had some sort of midair? Drove a vehicle into a jet?…
A Ramjet is a type of engine where they have a ram inside the jet to limit airflow in order to not starve the engines at high speeds and use the momentum of the engine through air to create thrust; He probably forgot to activate them after takeoff and crashed something, I'd assume (especially seeing as he apparently can't talk about it). Just my two cents tho
He probably went too fast and made a sonic boom over a residential area.
I think he shit his pants with diarhea
I got the call sign "Flaps" when I was in! Figure that one out.
Work at Pax River. Last couple of years has been...."ARE YOU F'ING KIDDING ME! TOM F'ING CRUISE IS THE NUMBER PRIORITY FOR THE NAVY!?"
gotta love them just wearing flip flops and idk what else
Yep that square of the drag speed is a ass kicker.
Mach 10+ -> SPACE SHUTTLE.
When I saw 'Top Gun: Maverick', I said to myself... "That jet would melt at that speed without heat tiles!"
(I am an Eaglekeeper from Kadena AFB, Okinawa, and I've watched Habu launch and proceed to mach 3.5. They got DAMNED hot. It was top secret, but we all hung together and could figure things out.)
Beside the opening carrier ops scenes, the movie was pure fantasy.
They can keep it cool by going into thinner atmosphere. Going up and down would be slower. Turning is going to be the main problem for two reasons. One is the thinner atmosphere makes it hard to drag one side. The second problem is the aircraft is flying so fast that a tight U-Turn would require a 100 mile or more grid. Mach 10 is 2.06 miles per second. This was seen with the Russian SAMs against the SR-71. The SAMs were faster, but because of the small fins, they couldn't turn in the thin atmosphere and would just fly straight up.
Mick looks like if Thom Yorke followed a flight career instead of music.
No comment... Thank you for your work.
That de orbit at Mach 25 is scary . They just breeze pass that
If you are planning to talk to Skunk Works, they will not divulge anything on what and where the DOD aircraft technology is currently. What Aviation Week reported a couple of years ago, the USAF is flying developmental aircraft that are already 20-30 years down the road. I am just amazed this was a GREAT MOVIE.
Wonder what you have to do to get called ramjet.
Grown ass men in jumpsuits, living the life
The proper term for flight suit is a "fart sack" in the USAF.
Why haven't I heard of Hermeus? Did they just declassify something?
no, theyve been around for a little. theyre not really known about by many people is all.
Also, the Death Star, in Star Wars, was totally impractical.
Good stuff!
Maverick Squadron was VX 31 Dust Devils same as Sally cool ..
VX means a test squadron. VX-4 fighter squadron locate.
VX-4 is located at Pt. Mugu California.
You guys know most of this movie is basically Bob Hoover's life
I think the British Sabre Engine is revolutionary
I like how these guys dressed for success slippers and flip flops :)
Once we figure out how to make artificial gravity inside of aircraft/spacecraft, that'll unlock a lot of potential and possibilities.
The Tic-Tac.
@@benjaminperez7328 yes
awesome vid
Somehow I feel like the Ramjet call sign origin story would make a really good movie too, shame it's surely classified
when u think its a reactions but this is like a Pta meeting
@1:10-1:14
Odds are, they do.
No, they don't
No, they don't.
Most engineers working on black projects never learn what they were up to. Black projects are black for a reason, test pilots would only know the aircraft they flew, nothing more.
Some people shouldn’t be allowed to wear flight suits.
Huh?
Space Shuttle went 17,500mph, that is roughly Mac 22+?
Space shuttle does 17,500mph in complete vacuum there is zero air resistance.
In Earth atmosphere air behaves differently when going from Supersonic to hypersonic, that's why it's difficult to achieve those speeds.
There is a reason why no one has ever touched Mach 10.
my man rammed into a jet
Very very clever getting your flight team to review this movie 👍
Thank you.
HOLY SHIT!? Did they just say that the shuttle deorbits at mach 25?!
Yep, you need to be going 17,500 MPH to stay in orbit.
That seems about right. I read too a few years ago how about 94% of the military-NASA space shuttle data, details are classified 🗂.
their seniority is best demonstrated not by rank or patch,
but by their footwear.
Not much there. When he says Rxxxx (blue border with blue tick marks) he is talking about Restricted Airspace which are defined on sectional charts. Restricted are military hot always and no civilians are allowed in unless you are under an instrument flight plan and get a specific clearance to do so...MOAs are often cold and civilian VFR flights can fly into and out of them routinely even without permission.
There are some Restricted areas that go "cold" or "closed" and can be flown through by anyone. To check the status of a Restricted area, check the side legend of the Sectional chart for the altitude of the Restricted area, the Time of Use, the controlling agency, and sometimes it includes a frequency. Usually the controlling agency the Center in that area.
Example: On the Albuquerque sectional, Restricted area R-5105 is from the surface up to 10,000ft, in use or "hot" 0800-2400 local time, and Albuquerque Center is the controlling agency.
@@GiovanniV69 Sure checking the legend is alwasy a good idea. But the general rule is ALWAYS ASSUME A RESTRICTED AREA IS HOT. If you want to go thru the hassle of contacting the authority just to be told no, fine...but its a waste of time.
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So, I saw the thumbnail and thought “why the hell are they dressed like ghostbusters for a maverick review?” Then I read the title and felt stupid lmao
I love watching there interviews, but you know that they cant tell you everything. They dont know if somebody has been Mach 10 yet ? 😅 SR - 71 flew 3,529.56 km/h in 1976. Pilots and engineers of SR- 71 said that it was not fastest or the highest top secret project at the time. And SR - 71 was black project. What most of the people call " Aurora" plane was developed in 70s - 80s. It flew mach 7,453 (9130 km/h) in 1986. So with technology and materials that are available now in 2022, I have no doubt there are planes that can do mach 13+ maybe even more. Not mentioning actual black projects that are not using conventional pulsing engines.
Aurora was never proven to exist and only very circumstantial evidence exists to this day --- the sonic booms recorded in 1991 estimated some kind of aircraft was flying at Mach 5.2, which is only 4000 MPH and not 7453 like you falsely claimed
@@fredwerza3478 You are right mate. Aurora was not yet officialy proven. But tell me -which black project was proven to exist before actual disclosure ? (I mean american ones, not that russian secret mig 25 landing in Japan). And by 1991 sonic booms I assume Sonic booms over California. They are not that dumb to do black project flights over civilian areas.(altrought they did in 1952, but that is different story). In my coment i sayd "mach 7,453 (9130 km/h) " Mach DOES NOT mean MPH. Mach means - the ratio of the speed of a body to the speed of sound in the surrounding medium. So mach 7,453 is 5673.119 MPH.
The X-15 flew at Mach 6.7 (4520 MPH) way back in 1967 - still the official world record!
SR-71 holds a different record at 2,193.2 MPH.
Space Shuttle Columbia - 17,500 MPH.
6:11 everyone here has the biggest EGO'S on earth - who the hell would have a bigger ego to show us the way?
WHY IS THE INTRO MUSIC SO LOUD
Looked a bit like the Mach Loop in North Wales.
This is question for the two EXPERTS that are speaking. Can someone survive a fiery crash of a craft going at Mach 10/high altitude! Please reply!
They couldn’t even survive a crash at Mach 1 let alone Mach 10. So that’s a definite No.
You don't need an expert to tell you that a Mach 10 break up is lethal no matter what. Even if you could eject or get thrown out of it (which happened to a Blackbird crew member) you would be a squishy human flying through the air at a speed that causes plasma to build up around an aircraft. You'd be incinerated.
@@coolcat6303 There is a case of a F 14 pilot and RIO surviving a mach 1 ejection and surviving. They were very lucky. Mach 10? No way.
th-cam.com/video/C02TVI_TH6Q/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DarkFootage
@@coolcat6303 thank you!
@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 Thank you!
No comment on how Maverick survived ejecting while traveling over Mach 10?! What are they hiding from us?!!!
He diddnt survive.he died and the rest of the movie is about making it up to goose through his son after death
we're way beyond mach 5 fellas, more like 50k mph, the tr 3b goes warp. th-cam.com/video/_GsEm25_Edk/w-d-xo.html
7500 m/s is orbital speed i think
haha that's awesome
“RAF” 😂 😂😝😝😀😁😛😃😝
How about ejecting at mach 10 and surviving?
@David Alvarez saying what?
possible if the system is designed to handle it, probably a pod like the early supersonic ejection systems
Talk about the picture of health...
I wanted to see them cringe at Maverick taking the Darkstar through a turn while trying to hit Mach 10. Common sense that you wouldn't try to do even a turn when going for an insane speed record.
Eh you can turn at hypersonic speeds...
@@RANDO4743 You can also breathe underwater, for a second or two.
@@darkphoenix2 actually you can hold your breath for 2 minuts on average and trained divers can go for 10 minutes. HYPERSONIC missles are very maneuverable they just cant turn as sharp as missles that travel at slower speeds.
@@RANDO4743 Alright bro, you're kind of missing every point. Yes, you can hold your breath underwater and yes, things can turn even at high speeds.
But I said that you shouldn't turn at those high speeds, especially when going for a speed record, because it would not only slow you down but put more stress on the airframe. Just as you shouldn't open your mouth and try to breathe H2O. You can't do it for very long without consequences.
@@darkphoenix2 you are missing the point dude whoever told you turning is dangerous at hypersonic speeds lied to you lol. Of course you can over g an aircraft, even subsonic speeds can put stress on the plane,but turning IN GENERAL is not automatically dangerous just because you're going fast.
They still have a lot to learn to catch up with the British Royal Air Force,,
I thought that was Julian Lennon for a second...
Fighter Weapons School is no longer at Miramar. Neither is it at North Island, nor anywhere near San Diego.
Maverick is STILL a great, non-woke movie that is crushing it at the box office.
It is in NAS Lemoore. Miramar is where I was stationed in the mid to late 60’s. Miramar was known as Fighter Town USA, until 1969 when Top gun was started.
@@lindapowell117 Nope. In NAS Fallon Nevada
Yeah we got sick of jets dropping on populations here in San Diego!!
He rammed a jet into something.
The elite talking
You mean the test pilots that don't have an aircraft to test. Those guys?
X15 ?
Better Ramjet than Kankels
So Ramjet nicknamed because he rammed another jet? Lmao
Hoorah
Mach 10 is like splitting your soul and body
And we have the video....Great end
why maverick and that dude blacking out were alone in 2 sit jet fighter.
Engineering is Science:)
Ram jet need to get a physical. His leg/ ankles are swollen.
he rammed into a jet, didn't he?
Or he ramed the jet
@@MarkoLomovic more convincing lol
Watching this makes me realize just how stupid I am… 😳
Not true on the ego part. The best of the best are destined to have ego. They BECOME humble ones they get in through in the inside. All the rest. Yeah.. cool.
Cool guys, but that footwear...?! Lol
OW...that Music hit at the top of the clip is WAY TOO LOUD......
Maybe Joe Biden could be a wing walker on the Darkstar at an airshow !