My initial experience with DmC: Devil May Cry was much more pleasant than normal, as I started playing it after Devil May Cry 5 had already been announced, and I played the "Definitive Edition" on PS4 Pro. It actually removes those color-coded enemies you hated so much, among various other edits. No, they are not in any other game.
Doesn't remove them, but changes the one things that improves them ten fold. They can be damaged by every weapon, but can only be staggered by the weapon they match with. That makes colour coded enemies tolerable Also anyone playing this version, toggle on hardcore mode and switch lock on to toggle. Since you have to hold buttons to enter angel and demon mode, switching it to toggle frees up your hands. Hardcore mode makes the style meter ask more from you and the biggest change, enemies don't float in the air when devil trigger is on. That annoying filter is still on, but the second biggest problem is gone
I would be wary when recommending definitive edition. It crashes a lot, at least on ps4. It doesn't crash every time I play it, but it crashes enough that it gets annoying
@@WednesdayMan it rarely happens, but it does happen. I had 8ish crashes around 200 hours of gameplay Well I did say it was a rare occurance, but they really should patch this out
I love the reboot but looking back, it should've been a spinoff series. It deviated too far character and character design wise that series vets knew a reboot was essentially a replacement.
@@Saltyaf38 Yeah. 'cause I'd never have looked into the game. But both gameplay and story are bad. Even if it was not a Devil May Cry, it would still feel like you're playing a cheap Devil May Cry with a unique but still terrible story.
@@Saltyaf38 Listen, I could explain why the game would still feel like a cheap DMC, but other can already explain it feels like a cheap DMC. As for the story, I could explain once more why it sucks ass like you've rarely seen before. But it would be long a tedious... But rather funny to read, if I do trust the feedbacks. But let's be honest... I'm not in the mood. And if you search the comments of this very video, I'm sure you can find my comment telling the story and why it sucks.
I liked DMC, honestly I didn’t think I would because I’m a huge fan of the originals. Plus it got me into a great band (CombiChrist) through the soundtrack.
INSERTGODZILLANAMEHERE 1 honestly the soundtrack is dope. The only other games I can think of that come close are doom, metal gear rising, and, well, other DMC games lol
@@aagh8714 Hotline Miami series, fuckin Minecraft. Undertale has a good soundtrack, PD2 has a great soundtrack. Any Castlevania game has some of the best music ever.
I'm not sure "underrated" is the right word so much as "overhated." The story deserves all the hate it gets and more, but the gameplay got a lot of things right, with it's most glaring flaws fixed in the definitive edition.
@@user-xw7kp2ye6c Easy ! So you get introduced to a character, a punk or whatever, Dante, who is attacked by a giant monster. There, he meets a useless character, Kat, who makes him join the resistance, led by an Anonymous. Dante learns that the 4Chan user is actually his long lost brother; Vergil, who is actually a bad guy, as his Nazi-like outfit suggests. Vergil tells him "the world is actually wickedy-wack yo, the villain, Lex Luthor, wants to conquer the world using the media and Monster Energy". Therefore, Dante decides to help, pulling all his punkness aside and becoming your regular MC, in a world where a guy who, until then, was a punk is going to rebel against an evil society led by demons (subtle isn't it ?). Because only him and his brother can kill Lex Luthor because they are not human but half-demon half-angel abominations (A Nephylim is half-human, half-angel, so don't try to tell me they are fucking Nephylims), and only the UNNATURAL union of two races that are opposed to one another is apparently able to kill this specific guy from one of those 2 races. Why ? Glad you asked, fuck you, that's why. And so they proceed to take down everything that gives Lex Luthor control over the people, like the Media Man, and the demon who shits in every can of Monster Energy. Also, they beat the crap out of the villain's wife, Lilith (SUBTLE ISN'T IT ?) and her unborn child, an alien to trade 'em against the useless Kat. And then, as they are exchanging the demon for the useless girl Vergil takes a sniper and kill the girl and her Xenomorph, much to Lex Luthor's anger. And so they proceed to kill Mundus by revealing to him that the 4Chan user was actually Dante's twin brother, another being capable of killing him and yeeting him off a buiding. But then he fuses with garbage and so they kill him again, and in an unforeseen twist, the nazi-friendly, unborn child killing Vergil reveals that now... He wants to control the world like Lex Luthor did ! A twist even M.Nght Shyamalan will tell you is shit. So you beat the crap out of him, and then there's a DLC showing you how much of a looser he is, but he is reborn through the power of flashbacks and now he is completely evil instead of just being a Nazi-friendly 4Chan users, whatever that means. There, of course I made sound more ridiculous some parts of the story. But really, it's a bunch of cultural references mixed together to form whatever this shit is supposed to be.
I loved and still do love this game. The music, presentation, and combat was so well done. I think the DmC's Vergil and Dante are so well developed as characters already and I love how the game doesn't tell you upfront why Dante and Vergil are living the lifestyles that we see in the game but the important thing is is that it just makes sense that they would fall into those life choices because of their horiffic past. Dante escapes into alcohol and sex, while Vergil escapes into his feelings of vengeance. Dante is motivated by a need to escape or distance himself from his tragic past and Vergil is motivated by his feelings of vengeance rooted in his tragic past. On the otherhand, DMC's Dante and Vergil are really cheesy carictures of the American action hero and the Japanese wandering samurai.... executed extremely well. We get really simple elementary level reasons why they do what they do.
el donte is shallow. The only words he knows is fuck, shit, and bitch. He's unpleasant whenever he talks, always sounding snarky and annoying. Vergin is overall a lazy character. He suddenly out of no where turns from your helpful brother to being your enemy with no hints???
Seems I'm not the only one who loves this one :D. Just a few days ago I thought I would dive into this series to see what all the fuss is about. So I thought Let's start with "the so called worst one" and... holy shit, it's my favourite one XD. And soundtrack from Combichrist? Yes please
It is Devil May Cry. It was my first DMC game i believe, I did play the others but never beaten them .but i can definitely say that DMC is a Devil May Cry Game. Just a different take on it. I love them all of course! They're all infinitely amazing! Of course!
No. No it's not. It's a bad game, with annoying game design, good music (even though I personnaly don't like it), A FUCKING TERRIBLE story, godawful characters and yeah, some people like the visuals, but Vergil is straight up coming down from the Uncanney Valley and I really find 'em sickenning, not just bad.
@@Assassin199410 Its not a Devil May Cry game, it never was, its a hack and slash game trying to be a Devil May Cry game, if you literally changed the name of the game and the name of the characters this game would be 10 times better
@@sushinkiren1389 It is Devil May Cry. It's a different take on the franchise. Look how different Resident Evil 7 and 8 are compared to the originals. Things change and that's ok. It's ok for traditional and new takes on things.
@@Saltyaf38 The story is pretty bad. It's excessively edgy to the point where it's actually comedic during it's serious moments, goes out of it's way to make fun of the original DMC series (while trying very hard to pander to the fans of that series, which is as funny as it sounds), and is so incredibly on the nose with it's metaphors and symbolism that it literally has pictures in the background of some cutscenes just to make sure you understand whatever it's talking about. It's certainly not the worst story, and the basic ideas behind it are solid if dated even at release; but the characters are all pretty unlikable and all in all the story itself isn't nearly as enjoyable as even the pretty basic one present in DMC 3.
@@Ryan-qo4pv I wouldn't say fanboys hate reboots cause reboot, if DmC was its own game it would've been fairly well receive, it has decent combat and a OK story, but making it a reboot allowed people to compare it to the original 4 games and DmC was just not a good DMC game, it didn't capture any of the themes of family, humanity, and legacy the original 4 games captured, dmc 5 only serving to reinforce those themes even more. there a really good video call "Devil may cry is deeper than you think" by the4thsnake (ignoring the pretentious title) it somes up why most fans of DMC didn't like DmC as much as they would've.
Actually the creator said he wanted to make another one because he liked the reboot, creative style, and gameplay but they would want Ninja Theory to make it which is the only reason WHY there hasn't been another one :)
The definitive edition does fix a lot of issues. Coloured enemies can be hurt by any weapon, but can only be stagger by the weapon they're assigned to (original release, weapons bounce off if the weapon isn't right) There's only one type of key and not 3 types of keys? Haven't played the vanilla version Some enemy balancing If you turn on hardcore mode with any difficulty, enemies don't float when Devil Trigger is turned on. Along with the style meter not being as forgiving Doing a last minute dodge while in devil mode has been nurfed. Along with a triple dash in angel mode These features alone elevate this game from a good game, to a fanastic game in my opinion. Though it's weird that the definitive edition isn't on pc Still not perfect, they haven't fixed some of the enemy AI just walking around looking like idiots. And it is a little broken with some crashing and it failing to load at rare points. And if you see the one video on my channel, you'll see the one time I've seen the Hunter boss do that. And I've played over 100 hours into the game
Once again great video and at least you admitted that you haven't played the other games. As a huge DMC fan whos played the games, watched the anime, etc. I'll give you my opinion without spoiling too much of the games. It's kind of long, but I hope you read it. DMC 1 the controls take some getting used to and the combos aren't great, but the atmosphere, the way weapons work and enemy aggression/variety absolutely makes the game a 10/10 for me. I don't think too many people hate this one. Story is decent. Sadly no mission select in this one, but it is the first in the series so I give it a pass. Difficulty is high especially on DMD(Dante Must Die) so be ready. DMC 2 is what many would call a train wreck, but I give it a solid 6/10. It not only introduced certain abilities that would be apart of dante's gameplay styles later on, it is the only game to give us the chance to play full separate stories with two battle soundtracks for each character instead of putting characters in on certain missions. Sadly the enemies are a joke and combos are worthless. Long story short it had many great ideas that I would love to see again. Story is ok, but the voice acting really really needed to be redone. Meh diffculty. DMC 3 the most beloved of the series as you already know. Without mods I give it a 9/10 style switching wasn't introduced yet so you can definitely feel the strain of having a lot of tools, but no chance to use them. The game still manages to make it work though. As for the story its great, special edition adds to Vergils character. It doesn't really ramp up in difficulty until you reach mid game. DMD and Hell and Hell are a nightmare though. DMC 4 still upsets me to this day because it was unfinished, but gameplay wise. 10/10. This and 3 are where the hardcore players like to show off combos. Not much more to say that others can't tell you. Good difficulty that really challenges your skill, but needed more enemy variety. DmC its....a good game for beginners and that's saying a lot considering DMC 1 had basically no combos. Ninja Theory did a lot of bad bad things with this game that just upset all of us long time fans. So that explains the hatred and you see for yourself how limited the combos were on certain enemies. Story makes a joke out of well liked characters, but is okay if you don't know anything about Dante and his friends. DMC 5. Sadly I haven't had the chance to play it yet, but just from what I've seen it's great. Anyone who has played the game feel free to chime in here. All in all I hope you like the series it's great for people who just want a good challenge.
About DMC5, if you like the combat in 3 and 4 you gonna love DMC5. World design is quite nice in the first half of the game and become quite meh(imo) latter on. Story is ok, it seem to aim towards fan of the series, alot of element only feel right if you research a little for newcomer. Graphic is outstanding :v
dmc 5 is an interesting case because even though its absolutely fantastic and an overall amazing experience (in my opinion of course) there is some contention with the advanced players of the series. the reason for this is because dmc 5 is missing a few advanced mechanics that were present in 4, chief among them being reversals and inertia. both of these allow a massive amount of freedom of expression if youre good enough to use them, however it takes a long time and alot of practice to learn how to use them properly at all and thusly most people (including myself) arent going to be impacted by these omissions and both inertia and reversals (including some other options that most high level player agree are crucial such as turbo mode and must style) have since been modded into the PC port of the game
DmC is a decent character action game and easily the best western attempt at the genre I've ever seen, but it was made to replace Devil May Cry which is the pinnacle of combat. It's like ordering a five star steak and getting one from Outback Steakhouse instead. It might not be BAD, but it's a huge step down regardless. The enemies generally force you into a specific way of fighting them even when they aren't color coded, and the boss fights are almost all shallow setpieces instead of well designed super enemies that test your mastery of the combat. They removed the style system which removed a lot of the higher depth that Dante had in 3, 4 and later 5. Mechanics like Royal Guard are completely removed as a result of their reworked control scheme, and the lack of lock on in the original release really limits the number of moves Dante could have. An entire button on the controller is dedicated to just the launcher because you can't lock on to do back and attack anymore. Also there's no taunt button, and that's awful because a well timed taunt is a quintessential part of DMC. It's also worth noting that they made a bunch of gameplay changes in the definitive edition (which I can tell you're playing because your axe doesn't recoil back when you hit that ice enemy at 9:48 , originally you flung back like when you hit that angel bubble later) that took fan feedback into account and made a bunch of smart changes. This version is significantly better than the original version on PS3/360 and PC, which I would call a straight up bad game. The original release doesn't even have a lock-on function, relying entirely on a soft lock where Dante will attack in the direction of enemies in the direction he's facing. This makes targeting some enemies like flying ones incredibly frustrating as you have to fight against what the game thinks you want to target. If you do end up going back to the reboot after playing 4 I'd recommend playing the old version on either the old consoles or on PC. (Definitive Edition never came to PC unfortunately)
Yeah there's a lot to talk about with the whole reboot situation. If there's anything to take away from this complete waste of time misfire it's that DMC 3 and 4's combat was so far above the rest that someone unfamiliar with the series can have fun with a take on the gameplay series fans will consider a 10th of the quality.
the pinnacle of combat was BAYONETTA....until Dante decided it was time to end his long ass vacation, btw he was visiting a long ass distant relatives The Belmonts and Sir Arthur.
@Terror dmc 2 obviously Dmc 1 considering the depth in combat it had during the time of it's release, yes but dmc1 only loses because it was the first in the series and the combat was experimental But oh boy don't you dare say that the combat of DmC is better than 3 the amount of depth 3 had in it's combat The amount of weapons And bosses that really challenged your knowledge of the combat really outclasses anything DmC has to offer And 3 holds up much better than DmC the combat in 3 is so satisfying that it has infinite replayability and the fact that it got a remaster in the switch and that the already great combat system got improved with free style switching Your argument about saying that DmC combat system is better than 3 is futile And saying that the combat is system is equally great as 4 and 5 says how little you know about the original series combat system. DmC is a mediocre one and done game while the original series excluding 2 is a game series that has infinite replayability and fun to be had I am not saying that people who like DmC are idiots because I liked what I played in it what really ticks me off is that when people start claiming that it is up there with greats in the series Because it really isn't not in a narrative standpoint and definitely not in combat because DMC combat was never supposed to be so blatantly simple it was supposed to be easy to understand hard to master which the reboot clearly isn't But I can say one thing that DmC was a good time while it lasted but I don't see picking it up over 1,3,4 and 5 but it's still miles better than 2
This is simply theory what I have to say. The reason why Ninja Theory's DmC was made was because the director, Hideaki Itsuno, was upset with Capcom and how DMC4 was made. He hated that Capcom rushed him to finish DMC4 and he was not allowed any creative freedom. The only way to finish the game development was to make Dante play Nero missions backwards. So Hideaki Itsuno decided to go to another game developer, Ninja Theory, to make a reboot. And of course, pretty much every DMC fan hated it like crazy. And even years after the reboot was made, Hideaki Itsuno said he wanted to make DmC2 with Ninja Theory. He actually enjoyed working with them. Capcom knew this would destroy the DMC Franchise's reputation so they gave in and said "Make DMC5 and do whatever you want. Don't kill Devil May Cry."
DmC is a good game the problem is that it is called Devil May Cry and compared to the old ones (minus DMC2, that sucks) the game is a huge letdown. I think fans wouldn't have made such a fuzz about it but the developers of the game started to mock the fans and even talk bad about the old games. That is what really drove fans insane. I remember watching those presentations by Tameem Antonidas on why DmC was better and just smiling because there would be so much drama
As someone who used to hate on DmC back in the day and at the time had only played DMC 4 I can honestly say that DmC is an ok game in my eyes now that the rage has subsided. The pre-release controversy with how the devs treated the fans and the initial reveal trailer definitely didn't help paint the game in a positive light for a lot of series veterans. One thing that most people agree on is that the color coded enemies were a mistake and break the flow of the gameplay and that the level design was awesome except for all of the in your face / heavy handed text that pops up from time to time. While the DMC series has always had juvenile humor, DmC kind of took it up that extra notch that proved to be grating for some people so that can come down to personal preferance. Personally I wasn't a big fan of the change of having Dante and Vergil be half devil and angel instead of half devil and human. Having them be half human makes them slightly more relateable and gives Dante more of a reason to sympathize with humans especially since his mother was one. I also prefer the themes about family and being human (or half devil) of the original series.
the visuals and level design were sweet af, and the dynamic battle camera was fucking awesome, Ninja Theory did well with the game the whole idea of "rebooting" the series was a wrong step for Capcom but somehow it paid off, and at least they listened and we got DMC5
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My expierience with the DMC-series is the same as yours ^^. I played the same way through like you, so its nice to see someone, who has gone through the way.
The Dante's character development in this game made me a fan. And I just really hope they'd continue the story. Even just in the comics. The Nephilims, Dante's Hair slowly turning white, Vergil after hell etc.
I can see a remake/ reimagined where this dante is his own character with a different name, maybe he fights virgil, i would love to see more different demon hunters
Finally someone who appreciate this game it was really a very cool game, i am pretty sure if not for it's controversy it would have been a blast i wish this game has a sequel in the future
This was also my first venture into the devil may cry series. And honestly I loved it. It fun to just hack through everything, and the exchange with the succubus was awesome 😂 and my god the soundtrack! It was worth it just for that! I was PUMPED!
So DmC came out a few years after I had gotten into the series and already experienced DMC1-4. When it was first announced and I saw the look of it, I was not amused, I'll admit. That said, I've always been the type of person to give everything a fair shot, so I picked it up instead of immediately writing it off. And I'm honestly happy I did. I ended up having fun with DmC, particularly the new combat. It was an enjoyable mix-up of the original weapon-switch formula that was kinda started in 3 then really polished in 4 and 5. Less so with the story and characters, but I didn't think they were terrible either. The Bob Barbas fight was incredible. It's not only my favorite moment of the Reboot, but I enjoyed it so much that I'd rate it as one of my favorite bosses in a franchise with a whole lot of awesome boss fights. With all that said though, when I finished playing my first thought was basically "Alright, that was fun! Time to get back to the main series." The main series just has a charm that I feel DmC was sorely lacking, particularly compared to 3, 4, and now 5. I'm pretty sure you'll get it too once you have the chance to play those.
This was also my first DMC game, before I played all the actual canon ones and while it definitely deviates too much from the classic game, I feel it's still solid especially if you don't compare with the DMC franchise
Devil May Cry 4 was my first (and I loved it), and I didn’t get to DmC until I played 1, 2, and 3 first. I’m saying this because most of the time when someone likes DmC, the usual assertion is “wElL yOu HaVeNt PlAyEd ThE rEaL dMc GaMeS”. Welp...I freaking love DmC. I love pretty much every game in the series (except 2, and even then I don’t hate 2).
Yea DMC4 is the only DMC ive played, because I dont have consoles. And it was surprisingly good. The gameplay is very good, the boss fight is very good, and the cinematic is very entertaining. Even the story is fleshed out. Its starts with a bang too, making Dante looks like a bad guy. And it turns out that Dante is very funny, and he likes to play, yet cared for his fellow companion. Dante is so cool on DMC4. Then emo DMC came out, saw emo Dante, watch the trailer and review, and decide not to touch this game because of emo Dante. Will buy DMC5, just waiting for DMC5 prices to come down to my price range. Also what is your thoughts on God Of War series?
Agreed. DmC is a fun Devil May Cry. ALL of them are (DMC 2 problem was the gameplay and dialogue). And yeah, the whole "YoU hAvEnT pLaYeD tHe ReAl DmC gAmEs" is pretty stupid, right along with "iF iT wAsNt CaLlEd DeViL mAy CrY iT wOuLdVe BeEn BeTtEr". Also, DMC 5 exsistence automatically makes DmC just a parallel universe. So if it's just a parallel universe what's the point of changing names?
I throughly enjoyed the reboot and thats coming from someone who grew up playing the OG DMC series on PS2. I definitely prefer the OG Dante over this one BUT I still loved it.
I also didn't play any of the main games prior to playing this game. And I loved this one alot. The story too. I loved how it started off goofy but got progressively more serious as it went on, culminating in that epic one on one fight. I think this game gets hate simply because it's different from the main series. And I've noticed that people who haven't played a DmC game before tend to love this game.
0:15 is one of the main reasons I LOVED this game I mean just look it at I know I’m going to get a lot of hate for this but the level designs in dmc5 don’t hold a candle to dmc
It’s my main complaint with dmc 5 haha. Everytime I play any of the other games I find the level designs to be very unique and the feel of them are wonderful. Dmc 5 looks almost practically the same as for more than half the game you are inside the tree which ruins the atmosphere and vibes of the game imo. Still a masterpiece of a game
Been binging your DMC series and really enjoying it. I remember finding out that in DMC1 if you hit R2 Dante does a taunt and if you are near an enemy it gives you a chunk of free DT as a reward for the risk of being cheeky which I found both hillarious and helpful. As the series has evolved that remained with *most* of them but over time it became less about the DT reward and more about the feeling of actually WANTING to be a cocky dickhead to an enemy you just laid an epic beatdown on and the amazing feeling it gave you when you got away with it. That's something I felt this game was missing. Something that doesn't sound like a big deal but it kind of is to a lot of fans.
I'd suggest looking into DmC Definitive Edition since it adds a lot of quality of life improvements like 60 FPS, a lock-on, and adjusting the color-coded enemy thing to where it's less annoying. Definitely the best way to play this game tbh.
i also think the Reboot is really underrated, but you know whats way, WAY more underrated than that? You. Honestly you're one of the TH-camrs i enjoy watching the most and i dunno why you have only 25k Subs instead of something like 250k. I wish you all the best and i hope you have a great day :)
I played this game recently, and I LOVED IT! This was my first DMC game, but I knew how Dante usually acts. They made it clear in the opening that this was not the original Dante and I loved the jokes, maybe because it was perfect for my demographic.
I'm with your journey and can't wait to see you review 3, 4, and 5. My cousin is in a similar position which he like DmC but hadn't play the other ones and I'd like him to try the other games as well. Anyway, Devil May Cry story is really good starting with 3. I subscribed to you so keep it up.
I didn't have a lot of problems with DmC's story, but the combat mechanics killed it for me. There wasn't a manual targeting system, so it was confusing as heck trying to do even a simple Stinger since the game kept disagreeing with me on which enemy to lock on to, and whether it allowed me to do the moves I wanted to do. The Angel/Devil mode was an interesting addition to combat, it looked like a great way to switch around on the fly during combos, but then color-coded enemies requiring specific modes to damage defeated that very purpose of 'constant weapon switching for sick combos'. It was just so restricted and so dumb, instead of giving players more power, they took away the good stuffs and locked us down.
This game came out at the perfect time for me. Just graduated high school, having hyped it up for nearly 2 years before that. I was edgy as hell at that point, so I legit thought it was a cool game. Now I love it because it's dumb, but really fun to play. Also, genuinely wish they would have implemented some of the jumping through the breaking world elements into 5. I think it could have been interesting. Also the music and art from this game is top tier stuff.
I never thought about it when I played it, but I'm starting to see parallels between how the world actually works and the lore behind this game over the past 2 years.
the idea of the media, food etc secretly controlling us a fairly old trope; see the movie "They Live" from the 80s (this is where the "OBEY" symbology comes from)
A the color coded enemies made me learn to switch between weapons(basicaly switch while you do a charged attack) it helps to incorporate all 5 weapons in combos B: in the remaster of DmC they changed it so that you just do less damage
I was turned off by the story and by a few of the cut scenes but I feel like the gameplay more than makes up for what people had an issue with. I too really enjoyed this game, I actually liked vergils downfall more than the main game. (I know I'm weird)
Solid 9/10 the gameplay is so good and I don't even know why you didn't talk about the erection inducing soundtrack. The reboot had such a distinct identity it was great. And I'm a hardcore DMC fan been playing the games since I was 12 and now I'm 20
I actually think this is the best DMC game in the series. The best thing about this game is the easy control design of the characters. This game is heavily underrated
I love the scene transitions and set pieces from the reboot yknow loke how the levels explode apart and you end up having to hop across the piece's, it looks great. Combat was good too, not on par with dmc 3 or 5 but still alot better than most dmc knock offs like god of war XD Honestly im happy dmc has enough of a following that things like this can happen it's always fun to see how things could have been. Saying all that I still wouldn't change a damn thing about 5 Maybe V
DmC was fun imo. And as someone who’s only played reboot, 4 and 5, yeah, I see why people don’t like this one, also the history on the development is a train wreck, but still fun to play, just kinda rough you gotta tune out the whole story and character writing out
Big fan of the dmc series. I was skeptical about the reboot but I tried it. The gameplay is top notch and the story "refreshing" and different. I like it, play it from now and then.
DmC was too obvious with its modern messages in terms of story. It's like "Wow, consumerism is shallow, capitalism is making people slaves to corporations. See!? I'm so egdy and intelligent to see through it". No kidding man. It's just narrative of obviousness to the point of autoparody which doesn't add any substantive thougths about what we already know. That's why I don't like the story of DmC spin-off. It's just like equivalent edgy teenager which is telling You that everyone around is shitty, corrupted people, the world is fucked up but he can't give You any constructive criticism or his vision of changing the world. It's like mindless rebellion for the sake of rebellion. The writing is so cliche it pains to watch.
I’m a fan of the series. I played this one I loved the redesign. I found it quite surprising and while on the nose I find it very relevant to what’s going on now
The revoke of the DMC license from Ninja Theory is my biggest gripe with the medium. I swear I think about it at least once a month. Second time I thought about it this month btw seeing your thumbnail
I enjoy it more than the average hack 'n' slash: God of War, star wars tfu, dark siders etc. But compared to the best the genre has to offer: DMC, bayonetta, ninja gaiden it just kinda lacks in depth. Also the writing is really bad. Not only is it just... Crude, but it's also needlessly pretentious. Overall it's just okay, like a 7/10 for me.
the only time I knew about the devil may cry 4 is when I entered the search for dmc devil may cry and he showed me the fourth game I've never heard of the fourth part before for some reason no one ever spoke about it
I’m looking forward to picking up all these games when I finish paying some bills off. I’ve played a little of three and four but I was really young and don’t remember them all so well.
The main reason "fans" don't like DmC: Devil May Cry is because of Capcom's bad decisions. No, unlike most fans think, Ninja Theory is not responsible for all the hate they get. NT is a talented studio that actually likes the DMC games, so when Capcom offered them the opportunity to make a game of that franchise, they were very pleased. At first, NT wanted to create a game much more thaithful to the originals, but Capcom didn't. They wanted to westernize the franchise because they thought the japanese culture influences was what kept it from being more popular (which is false) so they wanted the game to be as far as possible from the originals. Most decisions like Dante smoking, or Dante being sex addict came from Capcom, for exemple. Seing that most of these "ideas" were... badly received (to say the least), they doubled back on multiple occasions. That lead to a pretty inconsistant and uneven game, were a lot of re-written things don't match up with the original idea. Capcom is the only responsible for this. NT just did what they were told to. Hideaki Itsuno (DMC3,DMC4 and DMC5's director) had to make sure of that as he was a supervisor on the game. So all things considered, the game is not that bad, like, at all. It's a pretty solid action game. And even Itsuno liked it. He even said that if he would've prefered make a DmC 2 rather than DMC5. The only issue, considering the mess DmC is, was to actually call it DmC: Devil May Cry. Not only that name is pretty stupid, but it got to a point were the only things the game has in common with the original DMCs are the characters names. This makes it suffers even more than its idiotic decisions, and it got more or less the same fate than PREY (2017): a great game with very nice ideas in it, but people hated it without even trying to understand why, just because it took the name of a game that a lot of people (including me) were expecting (but got canceled), and for no reason, considering it doesn't have anything to do with the original franchise. I admit that at first I hated PREY (2017) but now... it's just one of my favorite games. I love it even more than the 2006's series. The thing is that I still wouldn't have said no to Prey 2 (and it looked amazing). In the same way, I would've liked another DmC: Devil May Cry, with more refined ideas and more consistent plot. Both "visions" could've existed side by side, and would've loved to. But bad decisions can destroy wonderful ideas.
Wow, this is actually good comment here. Personally I, even being a fan of older games, never hated dmc and actually loved its gameplay and genuenly better level design (which IMO was weakest point of all DMC titles - levels were bland and boring for the most part, with couple of memorable locations sprinkled between boring ones.) with actually vibrant colors and cool ideas. I didn't find combat that much worse than in DMC 3 or 4 . Of course with DMC 5 existing this reboot can't do anything - DMC5 has probably best combat system in the series. And I even liked the ideas like color-coded enemies even though I understand they weren't done that well, I could see good intention behind them - probably on paper devs wanted to make that some enemies will be fighting in groups and player would have to either change his weapons or properly pick targets in combat. No developer wants to make a bad game, and I'm pretty sure that NT wanted to make best Devil May Cry game ever but considering we are talking about Capcom, I'm not surprised that many players were disappointed.
If Ninja Theory wasn't responsible for any of this, why did they pick a fight with the whole fanbase and even go as far as say shit like they don't care if anyone buys the game? Guess what, it turned out that picking a fight with your customer based was a bad idea.
@@ElvenRaptor Taneem did (Not NT), because some people have a bad temper and can't stand criticism. It happens, even in the video game industry. But guess what, when you want to do something, you put your heart in it, then publisher says no, so you do as they ask, then people insult you and send you death threats (not kidding) for something you have little to no control over, you just want to say "fuck you" to everyone. I don't support Taneem nor his reaction, but I understand it.
This game is so much better than people want to give it credit for. I totally understand the dislike of the change in tone and the fact it was a “reboot” at the time and abandoned the original timeline, but in it’s own right - the gameplay is fantastic and I found the new take on the lore very interesting. I honestly find this to be my 3rd favorite behind 5 and 3.
While I've been a fan of Devil May Cry since the first game, I was never that good at actually playing them. I never learned too many of the advanced techniques that the pros use and stuff like that, so when it comes to the gameplay, I don't have that much to say other than what you said yourself. But the big sticking-point to me, and a lot of fans both before and after the release, was the story and the characterisation. Both the developer and the media made a big deal about the story, how it was "mature" and talked about "real world issues" unlike those "childish" and "corny" original games, but then the game came out and it was all a bunch of "wake up sheeple", "corperations are literally the devil"-stuff that had been done way better in films like They Live, but with a layer of wannabe-edge that made the whole thing just cringy. DMC never had deep or complex stories, but 3 and 4 had simple stories that felt genuinly heartfelt, with strong character-moments and clear and relatable themes. The "teen angst, but made by people in their 30's"-style of the reboot just felt hollow in comparison, and the way the lead developer and the media talked shit about the OG-games and their fans leading up to the release of the games just made it worse. It's the same with the characters. Dante was always kind of a wise-craking asshole, but he was a loveable asshole. While the developers didn't find the right balance until 3, the general idea was that he was a guy who genuinly liked what he was doing, and talked smack to the bosses and enemies hopeing to get a good fight. Reboot-Dante (Donte) just feels like an asshole who dosen't enjoy or care about anything. Shure, learning to care is part of his arc, but that means he's an asshole for most of the game, and his development dosen't really feel natural or believable. It's also centered around Kat, an incredibly flat character that rivals Kyrie from 4 as a boring damsel in distress, who was supposed to be an "improvement" compared to the series "problematic" portrayal of women in earlier games, but ended up being a worse stereotype than DMC had ever had. :P But worst of all was Vergil, who was transformed from an interesting and honorable character driven by tragedy to obtain power at the cost of his humanity, to a weeb hacker with an actual fedora, who shoots women in the back with no hesitation. The fight he and Dante have at the end also makes little sense in the narrative and is only there because the fights with Vergil where some of the best moments in 3, and the devs wanted to copy that, even if it makes the characters look dumb. So yeah, the reboot is a fine game gameplay-wise and a solid introduction to character-action, but the story is silly on its own, but insulting when viewed in the context that the developers and the media created for it. Sorry about the long comment, but I care too much about the story and characters in these silly action-games. XD Great video man, and I look foreward to seeing more from you. :)
Long time fan here and I am enjoying the definitive edition alot more than the vanilla version. This game has some of the best gameplay and stylistic settings in the whole series
It's refreshing to hear someone talking positively about DmC. As a big fan of both the series and of Ninja Theory, I had a lot of fun with it and honestly think it has some of the best boss fights in the entire franchise. It's clearly no DMC3, but I've never really understood the hate - silly, awkward over-the-top goofiness is what the series does best.
Most of DmC bosses are way too restrictive compare to mainline after 3 IMO. Let's take...Bob Barbas and Cerberus. Bob requires you to dodge color walls then hit the button before you can damage him, then you enter the camera mob fight. It breaks the flow and feels more like a puzzle. Meanwhile, in Cerberus fight, you have to fight him and avoid his attacks at the same time, which allows for smoother flow and higher skill ceiling. They're both giant and relatively immobile bosses (until Cerberus change phase ofc) but the difference in approach changes the experience a lot.
Minh Lê Honestly I was mostly referring to the thematic, visual and narrative style of the bosses, since I consider Barbas and Mundus’ Spawn in particular to be far more memorable than 95% of the random demon fights in the other games. Mechanically, I see your point but I think that’s more of a subjective thing. A different style of boss isn’t necessarily a bad boss. It’s worth noting that I’m more of a one-and-done sort of player though, so for people who play the boss fights over and over again the experience is probably very different.
@@AverageJoeVideoGames I get you, but it's not the kind of experience DMC fans would expect. It's not inherently inferior, it just doesn't fit the franchise after 3. But hey, if you like it, that's great! Btw, look up Sakaki's Battle against Credo. I think it's the perfect video to showcase DMC boss potential
I really like this game and have heard about the devil may cry series before. This was my first dmc game and I thought this was how Dante acted. After me wanting to look into the dmc series I discovered that that wasn’t the case. I bought the dmc HD collection 4SE and looked up the order for the games because my friend told me the games were out of order. I played dmc 3 and loved this Dante way better but I still liked the reboot Dante. I just started dmc 1 and I can’t wait to play the other dmc games because I feel like I’m gonna really like this series. And I still think I’m gonna believe the reboot isn’t bad after playing all the games.
I also like this game, was my first Devil May Cry and honestly it was fun. Very on the nose about everything, and the characters were all pretty winny, but the gameplay was fun and the visual presentation was creative and captivating
The visuals are very Unreal Engine 3. They struggled to get the concept art into the final product imo. One might wonder if that technical trouble extended to the combat coding. Maybe it was supposed to be better but they had too much resistance from the engine. This game was just an unfortunate situation for everyone involved, except Hideaki Itsuno who got to visit London and had a much more relaxed schedule than he did for 2, 3 and 4.
i’ve NEVER liked a video on TH-cam, but the fact that SOMEONE was willing to jump out there and say this is a good game makes me smile. And Devil May Cry is my favorite video game franchise of all time.
There is no shortage of people saying it's a good game. It is mechanically a good character action game. But the attitude of the game of some of the developers, the story and the characterization is just bad, it is a metaphorical spit in the face to anyone that cares about the original games
Tiêu Đức Anh even “the attitude” of the developers was overblown in the time and that sentiment has been carried over into today. and the story and characterization isn’t exactly bad. it’s just slightly different.
Played DMC4 years ago and then this recently and prefer it to originals, which I have now played all of. Got DMC5 to play once finished some other stuff.
The design of the areas and some of the enemies(not the red and blue enemies) are pretty good imo and while i love the gameplay, the bosses could use some work.
Combat was fun on a superficial level, but it lacks in depth and challenge. Color coded enemies are stupid and overused, style meter is way too generous and the lack of a lock on was annoying. Platforming was leagues better than the originals though, and the level designers deserve a medal.
@@williamcronshaw5262 I enjoy the fact this area in this building stretches out trying to prevent you from reaching where you need to go. However it wasn't fast enough, I'd love to atleast try to fight back and pick up the pace but as an optional thing.
DMC was my first exposure to the series. Didnt even know it wasnt cannon until I looked up the plot so i could play dmc 5. I loved it. Fun combos an gameplay. I personally think the combat is more fun and satisfying than dmc 5.
Nice review. I think my overall feelings for this game was that it was pretty decent in looks and gameplay and I can still go back to it from time to time. Though I feel like it would have been an advantage to be its own game and not tied to the DMC name due to feeling like it missed a lot of what made the previous games appealing. Pros Stylish meter announcement voice Slow-mo cam when last enemy is killed Holding down the triggers for weapon switching was kind of good Being able to parry many enemy attacks Dante having a grapple hook was useful Being able to try moves and view video demos for them Limbo and its visuals were really well done Vergil DLC although short at least wasn't just playing through Dante's levels Cons No styles No hard lock on Ruined Devil Trigger Majority of bosses feel way to static and just stick to their allocated spot Having to double tap forward to perform dash moves Launch moves having a dedicated button (O/B could have been put to better use) Colour coded enemies I wasn't feeling the "Wake up people! Our society is run by demons!" plot line they went for Didn't like the new personalities for characters: Dante: was still cocky like the old games but came off more unlikable Vergil: went from being a cold and solitary warrior to somebody who can't seem to function without Dante there to help him. Can't even take him seriously as a final boss because the game constantly shows how much weaker he is than Dante. Kat: was fine but I hated the fact that she couldn't fend for herself when most DMC girls are combatants I know many cons were fixed in the special edition but I bought the first version when it came out so the cons still stand for me
Playing the original version is just more authentic, I guess. This was the one that everyone hated so much more, so he goes for this one to get the "true" controversial experience.
I consider myself a DMC veteran , I have played all of the games in almost every difficulty which means I have taken in what the games have to offer.In my opinion, the reboot isn't a bad game, I personally liked it a lot. It just isn't a proper dmc game, it lacks in many aspects, for example, the combat is more player friendly in the reboot, it tends to hold your hand, a real dmc game doesn't, it is brutal and unforgiving. Also dante in this game is way too edgy, dante we love is goofy and funny. All in all, the dmc dmc devs made a game to pull in new people to the series but completely forgot about the fans they already had
@@aagh8714 DMC 1 intro. Trish bursts through the door on a motorcycle Dante's reaction is WOOHOOUW! Slow down babe! followed by "Well well...what do we have here? Nature calls, it's in the back" (and then they have a normal convo about Dante's work) She throws a sword into him later and says "didn't your daddy ever teach you how to use a sword" and throws a the motorcycle at him He replies with a snarky and mocking tone and says "A Sword?" laughs like the cocky fucker he is and pulls out Ebony and Ivory through a fancy finger twirl and shoots the motorcycle to pieces if that's not good enough to jog your memory about Goofy Dante. here's a bunch of other DMC 1 goofy moments After phantom got impaled, was dying and saying Dante was Sparda and he said "it can't be..." Dante says "You're right, i'm his son Dante" kisses his left hand's index and middle fingers before lifting his hand up and saying "Sweet dreams" with a smirk on his face Dante to Griffon in a once again excessively cocky manner after Griffon asks Dante if he is the human who challanges mundus "Flock off Feather face, or you can stick around and find out the hard way!" while doing the same come on motion Dante in DMC3 does in one of his taunts And let's not forget the very "Jackpot!" he shouts before booting Mundus back to hell with two bullets and while Mundus is going back he waves once again while cockily saying "Goodbye! and when you do come back? Give my regards to my son will ya?" and bowing slightly Dante's always been goofy, dahell you on about?
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 I don't why people all of a sudden think Dante never acted that way until the 3rd game The only time he didn't was in that one game whose name shall not be spoken
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 DMC1 Dante doesnt give a fuck lol, DMC3 dante would ride the motorcycle around for 5 minutes and crash, 1 dante just doesnt care
what u mean challenging? dmc always was braindead button mashing,i can't tell which dante is more cringe emo dante or dante with white wig dancing jackson , i can't take anything seriously in newest dmc, dmc's story, braindead combat and characters always been shitty, only dmc that tried to take itself little bit seriously was dmc 2013 and butthurt fanbase fcked it up.
2:24 - "And a little worried" 😂👌 Thankyou, for making this video. My opinion is same as yours. I loved, I mean, LOVED DmC on every aspects, but haven't played original Devil May Cry series. I installed Devil May Cry HD Collection yesterday and have started from the beginning. Curious and intrigued to know why people prefer the original series to the reboot one.
Idk which version of this game you were playing but I will give them credit on the colored enemies at least in the definitive edition they made it so you can attack red enemies with the angel scythe and vice versa
I played all dmc serie. And I love this one. Gameplay is just awesome, soundtrack is awesome, the game is hell of fun. Biggest disappointment is coming from dmc 3 with the best Dante and have this one. I wanted to hate the game but I can't. I love it. One of the best bta I ever played.
Yoo, I actually LOVE this game! It got me into DMC as a whole and I thought it was so much fun!! I kinda get that it's kinda mid, but I think most of the hate came from people thinking this would replace the original series... Great vid dude
To many new viewers I’m going to explain how this was perceived at the time. One of the biggest gaming TH-camrs AngryJoe, hated the game but he influenced the youtube hate for it, it’s just my two cents. I do think that the sales probably weren’t the best but at the time AngryJoe didn’t have the competition he has now. I know for a fact that he doesn’t finish the games he reviews. It was an unfair and biased take. I think if your reading this have an open mind and play and beat the game before you trash it. I think that it was a good game and I enjoyed the reboot. DMC5 is great, but they kept the emo look for V, something AngryJoe hated so hard they he had a music video on it. I know some may disagree with this take but he was such a big TH-camr at the time and had very little competition. My take home message is to have an opinion for yourself and complete the game before you hate on it.
@@gotinogaden it wasn’t gettin a 0 or 1 from legitimate reviewers. Also, he made a video ridiculing how Dante looked emo, looks familiar…kinda like V? I think Joe didn’t like change and if it was released today with slightly better graphics it would be praised.
To also give a bit more context for the writing issue, I think a lot of the perception of the game is also tainted by the pre release marketing and interviews that people from Ninja Theory did, where they seemed to be taking themselves very very seriously (and the first look at the reboot which was way more edgy than the released product somehow lmao).
Honestly I can't blame you if DmC has really been your actual first experience with the series. I'd be surprised if that didn't influence your opinion when you've played all of them but I'm still curious to know how you'll perceive them.
@@HyveMindsGames Watch Foxcade's DMC Retrospective series when you finish everything up to DMC4. He's the definitive guide to everything you may want to know about the series including the reboot and anime respectively. The Gaming Brit Show used to be one of the more reliable reviews as he did a series similar to yours but his are just reviews, Vash the Shell Bullet is also reliable. Both guys are known to be big action game fans as well so they're not limited to just DMC.
i was super excited to see it on the shelves back then, coming back from DMC3. never bothered with DMC4, looked and felt really stiff and stupid when I tried it. This is super refreshing and I still get back to it in the Definitive Edition that eliminated its few flaws. Fanboys of DMC5 owe a lot more to this game than they will ever admit anyway ;)
@@ghostofthesun89 Itsuno himself said he liked this game and borrowed ideas when making dmc5 so idk what you're trying to implie with that last line. He showed some love to DmC in DMC5, in vergils final fight with dante having call backs to lines donte says and even having vergil pull out the doppelganger ability. I don't hear any DMC fans whining about donte references in 5, most fans just let DmC be its own thing why you gotta be so defensive.
@@ghostofthesun89 there's a world of difference between "reference" and "tribute". I think you're confusing the two. References may be fun regardless, tributes can be so out of place they are straight cringy.
My initial experience with DmC: Devil May Cry was much more pleasant than normal, as I started playing it after Devil May Cry 5 had already been announced, and I played the "Definitive Edition" on PS4 Pro. It actually removes those color-coded enemies you hated so much, among various other edits. No, they are not in any other game.
Doesn't remove them, but changes the one things that improves them ten fold. They can be damaged by every weapon, but can only be staggered by the weapon they match with. That makes colour coded enemies tolerable
Also anyone playing this version, toggle on hardcore mode and switch lock on to toggle. Since you have to hold buttons to enter angel and demon mode, switching it to toggle frees up your hands. Hardcore mode makes the style meter ask more from you and the biggest change, enemies don't float in the air when devil trigger is on. That annoying filter is still on, but the second biggest problem is gone
I would be wary when recommending definitive edition. It crashes a lot, at least on ps4. It doesn't crash every time I play it, but it crashes enough that it gets annoying
@@teneesh3376 I don't run into many crashes on the definitive edition, might just be your experience.
@@WednesdayMan it rarely happens, but it does happen. I had 8ish crashes around 200 hours of gameplay
Well I did say it was a rare occurance, but they really should patch this out
Kevin Vo While I didnt encounter any crashes, I would definetly say 8 crashes in 200 hours is high for a console release.
I love the reboot but looking back, it should've been a spinoff series. It deviated too far character and character design wise that series vets knew a reboot was essentially a replacement.
At worst it should have been its own serie, at best, it should never have existed in the first place.
@@MrLednard if it wasnt DMC you wouldn't even say that.
@@Saltyaf38 Yeah. 'cause I'd never have looked into the game.
But both gameplay and story are bad. Even if it was not a Devil May Cry, it would still feel like you're playing a cheap Devil May Cry with a unique but still terrible story.
@@MrLednard Sounds really biased.
@@Saltyaf38 Listen, I could explain why the game would still feel like a cheap DMC, but other can already explain it feels like a cheap DMC.
As for the story, I could explain once more why it sucks ass like you've rarely seen before. But it would be long a tedious... But rather funny to read, if I do trust the feedbacks. But let's be honest... I'm not in the mood. And if you search the comments of this very video, I'm sure you can find my comment telling the story and why it sucks.
I liked DMC, honestly I didn’t think I would because I’m a huge fan of the originals. Plus it got me into a great band (CombiChrist) through the soundtrack.
Best soundtrack in a game.
INSERTGODZILLANAMEHERE 1 honestly the soundtrack is dope. The only other games I can think of that come close are doom, metal gear rising, and, well, other DMC games lol
@@Saltyaf38 no, just no
@@adnandelic9093 give us a recommendation then lmao
@@aagh8714 Hotline Miami series, fuckin Minecraft. Undertale has a good soundtrack, PD2 has a great soundtrack. Any Castlevania game has some of the best music ever.
While I disliked it at first. It has aged very well and now I find it great.
Same
Same
Alex Rain Same, just 100% the definitive edition the other day.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Nice. Congrats!
If it wasn’t called DMC it would’ve been a lot better received
I'm not sure "underrated" is the right word so much as "overhated." The story deserves all the hate it gets and more, but the gameplay got a lot of things right, with it's most glaring flaws fixed in the definitive edition.
But why do the story deserve "all the hate? Yes, the plot became more generic comparing to the other games in series, but idea and message was ok
@@user-xw7kp2ye6c I'm guessing you haven't seen the movie "They Live?"
@@Percival917 nope, I'm not into old movies. Tho I love to rewatch the soviet ones
@@user-xw7kp2ye6c Easy !
So you get introduced to a character, a punk or whatever, Dante, who is attacked by a giant monster. There, he meets a useless character, Kat, who makes him join the resistance, led by an Anonymous. Dante learns that the 4Chan user is actually his long lost brother; Vergil, who is actually a bad guy, as his Nazi-like outfit suggests. Vergil tells him "the world is actually wickedy-wack yo, the villain, Lex Luthor, wants to conquer the world using the media and Monster Energy".
Therefore, Dante decides to help, pulling all his punkness aside and becoming your regular MC, in a world where a guy who, until then, was a punk is going to rebel against an evil society led by demons (subtle isn't it ?). Because only him and his brother can kill Lex Luthor because they are not human but half-demon half-angel abominations (A Nephylim is half-human, half-angel, so don't try to tell me they are fucking Nephylims), and only the UNNATURAL union of two races that are opposed to one another is apparently able to kill this specific guy from one of those 2 races. Why ? Glad you asked, fuck you, that's why.
And so they proceed to take down everything that gives Lex Luthor control over the people, like the Media Man, and the demon who shits in every can of Monster Energy. Also, they beat the crap out of the villain's wife, Lilith (SUBTLE ISN'T IT ?) and her unborn child, an alien to trade 'em against the useless Kat. And then, as they are exchanging the demon for the useless girl Vergil takes a sniper and kill the girl and her Xenomorph, much to Lex Luthor's anger.
And so they proceed to kill Mundus by revealing to him that the 4Chan user was actually Dante's twin brother, another being capable of killing him and yeeting him off a buiding. But then he fuses with garbage and so they kill him again, and in an unforeseen twist, the nazi-friendly, unborn child killing Vergil reveals that now... He wants to control the world like Lex Luthor did ! A twist even M.Nght Shyamalan will tell you is shit.
So you beat the crap out of him, and then there's a DLC showing you how much of a looser he is, but he is reborn through the power of flashbacks and now he is completely evil instead of just being a Nazi-friendly 4Chan users, whatever that means.
There, of course I made sound more ridiculous some parts of the story. But really, it's a bunch of cultural references mixed together to form whatever this shit is supposed to be.
@@MrLednard бл, и зачем я вообще спрашивал? :Т
The story of DmC's development history is like the instruction manual on how to make a good game fail
yea sad, the game is fun but not a good DMC game, would be cool if it was its own game
No it's the story of how to make a bad game even worse!
@@hedrocs no
Mundus is Corporation
Funniest shit i've ever seen
@@zeromailss but... That's why it's called "reboot". Because it's completely different look at the series
I loved and still do love this game. The music, presentation, and combat was so well done.
I think the DmC's Vergil and Dante are so well developed as characters already and I love how the game doesn't tell you upfront why Dante and Vergil are living the lifestyles that we see in the game but the important thing is is that it just makes sense that they would fall into those life choices because of their horiffic past. Dante escapes into alcohol and sex, while Vergil escapes into his feelings of vengeance. Dante is motivated by a need to escape or distance himself from his tragic past and Vergil is motivated by his feelings of vengeance rooted in his tragic past. On the otherhand, DMC's Dante and Vergil are really cheesy carictures of the American action hero and the Japanese wandering samurai.... executed extremely well. We get really simple elementary level reasons why they do what they do.
Dude, that "American action hero" vs "Japanese wandering samurai" is the vibe I felt throughout the game, but couldn't describe it.
Preach
el donte is shallow. The only words he knows is fuck, shit, and bitch. He's unpleasant whenever he talks, always sounding snarky and annoying. Vergin is overall a lazy character. He suddenly out of no where turns from your helpful brother to being your enemy with no hints???
@@WhooshWh0sh yeah it’s cowboy vs samurai
Seems I'm not the only one who loves this one :D. Just a few days ago I thought I would dive into this series to see what all the fuss is about. So I thought Let's start with "the so called worst one" and... holy shit, it's my favourite one XD. And soundtrack from Combichrist? Yes please
Putting it simply, DmC is a good game with solid gameplay and visuals, its just not a good Devil May Cry game
It is Devil May Cry. It was my first DMC game i believe, I did play the others but never beaten them .but i can definitely say that DMC is a Devil May Cry Game. Just a different take on it. I love them all of course! They're all infinitely amazing! Of course!
No. No it's not.
It's a bad game, with annoying game design, good music (even though I personnaly don't like it), A FUCKING TERRIBLE story, godawful characters and yeah, some people like the visuals, but Vergil is straight up coming down from the Uncanney Valley and I really find 'em sickenning, not just bad.
@@Assassin199410 Its not a Devil May Cry game, it never was, its a hack and slash game trying to be a Devil May Cry game, if you literally changed the name of the game and the name of the characters this game would be 10 times better
@@sushinkiren1389 It is Devil May Cry. It's a different take on the franchise. Look how different Resident Evil 7 and 8 are compared to the originals. Things change and that's ok. It's ok for traditional and new takes on things.
Assassin199410 just for clarification, op never said DmC isn't a DMC game, he said DmC isn't a GOOD Devil May Cry game.
From the coverage at the game's release, gameplay wise it was pretty solid. I think the bad taste came from the rework they gave Dante.
@Chaitnya Singh your reading comprehension gives me a bad taste right now, not unlike the reviews from 2013 when the game came out
@Chaitnya Singh I know you're not calling other people "kiddo" with 2nd grade grammar like that.
I think DmC’s gameplay and world design is badass but the story and character reworks are god awful.
The story was pretty good it's just so weird that most people think it's terrible.
@@Saltyaf38 The story is pretty bad. It's excessively edgy to the point where it's actually comedic during it's serious moments, goes out of it's way to make fun of the original DMC series (while trying very hard to pander to the fans of that series, which is as funny as it sounds), and is so incredibly on the nose with it's metaphors and symbolism that it literally has pictures in the background of some cutscenes just to make sure you understand whatever it's talking about.
It's certainly not the worst story, and the basic ideas behind it are solid if dated even at release; but the characters are all pretty unlikable and all in all the story itself isn't nearly as enjoyable as even the pretty basic one present in DMC 3.
@Cosmic StonerSorry but dmc3 story is amazing reboot story is garbage that thing was god awful
@@torinriley7569
DmC is supposed to be campy the alternate version is just a more edgy take on the franchise which I loved about it.
@@Saltyaf38 story is awesome.. Its just not an anime type like Dmc 3, 4and 5..and more of a Hollywood style and weebs hate that
I loved the reboot, even after growing up with the series. Dante was a little shit, but the game was a blast
Fanboys usually hate reboots but you are unique .
@@Ryan-qo4pv I wouldn't say fanboys hate reboots cause reboot, if DmC was its own game it would've been fairly well receive, it has decent combat and a OK story, but making it a reboot allowed people to compare it to the original 4 games and DmC was just not a good DMC game, it didn't capture any of the themes of family, humanity, and legacy the original 4 games captured, dmc 5 only serving to reinforce those themes even more. there a really good video call "Devil may cry is deeper than you think" by the4thsnake (ignoring the pretentious title) it somes up why most fans of DMC didn't like DmC as much as they would've.
@@lowman-944 yeah that's what the dude is saying fanboys hate reboots you just validated his argument even more
My friends weren’t gonna T-bag themselves! 😂😂
I really like this game, specially limbo desing. I really wish that they made a sequel.
Thank you for your review!
They really won't make a sequel. Give up hope
Actually the creator said he wanted to make another one because he liked the reboot, creative style, and gameplay but they would want Ninja Theory to make it which is the only reason WHY there hasn't been another one :)
They did senua hellblade
The definitive edition does fix a lot of issues.
Coloured enemies can be hurt by any weapon, but can only be stagger by the weapon they're assigned to (original release, weapons bounce off if the weapon isn't right)
There's only one type of key and not 3 types of keys? Haven't played the vanilla version
Some enemy balancing
If you turn on hardcore mode with any difficulty, enemies don't float when Devil Trigger is turned on. Along with the style meter not being as forgiving
Doing a last minute dodge while in devil mode has been nurfed. Along with a triple dash in angel mode
These features alone elevate this game from a good game, to a fanastic game in my opinion. Though it's weird that the definitive edition isn't on pc
Still not perfect, they haven't fixed some of the enemy AI just walking around looking like idiots. And it is a little broken with some crashing and it failing to load at rare points. And if you see the one video on my channel, you'll see the one time I've seen the Hunter boss do that. And I've played over 100 hours into the game
Once again great video and at least you admitted that you haven't played the other games.
As a huge DMC fan whos played the games, watched the anime, etc. I'll give you my opinion without spoiling too much of the games. It's kind of long, but I hope you read it.
DMC 1 the controls take some getting used to and the combos aren't great, but the atmosphere, the way weapons work and enemy aggression/variety absolutely makes the game a 10/10 for me. I don't think too many people hate this one. Story is decent. Sadly no mission select in this one, but it is the first in the series so I give it a pass. Difficulty is high especially on DMD(Dante Must Die) so be ready.
DMC 2 is what many would call a train wreck, but I give it a solid 6/10. It not only introduced certain abilities that would be apart of dante's gameplay styles later on, it is the only game to give us the chance to play full separate stories with two battle soundtracks for each character instead of putting characters in on certain missions. Sadly the enemies are a joke and combos are worthless. Long story short it had many great ideas that I would love to see again. Story is ok, but the voice acting really really needed to be redone. Meh diffculty.
DMC 3 the most beloved of the series as you already know. Without mods I give it a 9/10 style switching wasn't introduced yet so you can definitely feel the strain of having a lot of tools, but no chance to use them. The game still manages to make it work though. As for the story its great, special edition adds to Vergils character. It doesn't really ramp up in difficulty until you reach mid game. DMD and Hell and Hell are a nightmare though.
DMC 4 still upsets me to this day because it was unfinished, but gameplay wise. 10/10. This and 3 are where the hardcore players like to show off combos. Not much more to say that others can't tell you. Good difficulty that really challenges your skill, but needed more enemy variety.
DmC its....a good game for beginners and that's saying a lot considering DMC 1 had basically no combos. Ninja Theory did a lot of bad bad things with this game that just upset all of us long time fans. So that explains the hatred and you see for yourself how limited the combos were on certain enemies. Story makes a joke out of well liked characters, but is okay if you don't know anything about Dante and his friends.
DMC 5. Sadly I haven't had the chance to play it yet, but just from what I've seen it's great. Anyone who has played the game feel free to chime in here.
All in all I hope you like the series it's great for people who just want a good challenge.
I personally didn't like V
A 6/10 for DMC 2? I respectfully disagree with that score.
@@Wol1427 Haha well at least you're respectful about it. So why do you disagree?
About DMC5, if you like the combat in 3 and 4 you gonna love DMC5. World design is quite nice in the first half of the game and become quite meh(imo) latter on. Story is ok, it seem to aim towards fan of the series, alot of element only feel right if you research a little for newcomer. Graphic is outstanding :v
dmc 5 is an interesting case because even though its absolutely fantastic and an overall amazing experience (in my opinion of course) there is some contention with the advanced players of the series. the reason for this is because dmc 5 is missing a few advanced mechanics that were present in 4, chief among them being reversals and inertia. both of these allow a massive amount of freedom of expression if youre good enough to use them, however it takes a long time and alot of practice to learn how to use them properly at all and thusly most people (including myself) arent going to be impacted by these omissions and both inertia and reversals (including some other options that most high level player agree are crucial such as turbo mode and must style) have since been modded into the PC port of the game
DmC is a decent character action game and easily the best western attempt at the genre I've ever seen, but it was made to replace Devil May Cry which is the pinnacle of combat. It's like ordering a five star steak and getting one from Outback Steakhouse instead. It might not be BAD, but it's a huge step down regardless. The enemies generally force you into a specific way of fighting them even when they aren't color coded, and the boss fights are almost all shallow setpieces instead of well designed super enemies that test your mastery of the combat. They removed the style system which removed a lot of the higher depth that Dante had in 3, 4 and later 5. Mechanics like Royal Guard are completely removed as a result of their reworked control scheme, and the lack of lock on in the original release really limits the number of moves Dante could have. An entire button on the controller is dedicated to just the launcher because you can't lock on to do back and attack anymore. Also there's no taunt button, and that's awful because a well timed taunt is a quintessential part of DMC.
It's also worth noting that they made a bunch of gameplay changes in the definitive edition (which I can tell you're playing because your axe doesn't recoil back when you hit that ice enemy at 9:48 , originally you flung back like when you hit that angel bubble later) that took fan feedback into account and made a bunch of smart changes. This version is significantly better than the original version on PS3/360 and PC, which I would call a straight up bad game. The original release doesn't even have a lock-on function, relying entirely on a soft lock where Dante will attack in the direction of enemies in the direction he's facing. This makes targeting some enemies like flying ones incredibly frustrating as you have to fight against what the game thinks you want to target. If you do end up going back to the reboot after playing 4 I'd recommend playing the old version on either the old consoles or on PC. (Definitive Edition never came to PC unfortunately)
Yeah there's a lot to talk about with the whole reboot situation. If there's anything to take away from this complete waste of time misfire it's that DMC 3 and 4's combat was so far above the rest that someone unfamiliar with the series can have fun with a take on the gameplay series fans will consider a 10th of the quality.
the pinnacle of combat was BAYONETTA....until Dante decided it was time to end his long ass vacation, btw he was visiting a long ass distant relatives The Belmonts and Sir Arthur.
@@raulrojas9253 Bayonetta is much more limited and simple.
NT and the darksiders guys are the only western dudes i can even think of that jerk off character action
@Terror dmc 2 obviously
Dmc 1 considering the depth in combat it had during the time of it's release, yes but dmc1 only loses because it was the first in the series and the combat was experimental
But oh boy don't you dare say that the combat of DmC is better than 3 the amount of depth 3 had in it's combat
The amount of weapons
And bosses that really challenged your knowledge of the combat really outclasses anything DmC has to offer
And 3 holds up much better than DmC the combat in 3 is so satisfying that it has infinite replayability and the fact that it got a remaster in the switch and that the already great combat system got improved with free style switching
Your argument about saying that DmC combat system is better than 3 is futile
And saying that the combat is system is equally great as 4 and 5 says how little you know about the original series combat system.
DmC is a mediocre one and done game while the original series excluding 2 is a game series that has infinite replayability and fun to be had
I am not saying that people who like DmC are idiots because I liked what I played in it what really ticks me off is that when people start claiming that it is up there with greats in the series Because it really isn't not in a narrative standpoint and definitely not in combat because DMC combat was never supposed to be so blatantly simple it was supposed to be easy to understand hard to master which the reboot clearly isn't
But I can say one thing that DmC was a good time while it lasted but I don't see picking it up over 1,3,4 and 5 but it's still miles better than 2
This is simply theory what I have to say. The reason why Ninja Theory's DmC was made was because the director, Hideaki Itsuno, was upset with Capcom and how DMC4 was made. He hated that Capcom rushed him to finish DMC4 and he was not allowed any creative freedom. The only way to finish the game development was to make Dante play Nero missions backwards. So Hideaki Itsuno decided to go to another game developer, Ninja Theory, to make a reboot. And of course, pretty much every DMC fan hated it like crazy. And even years after the reboot was made, Hideaki Itsuno said he wanted to make DmC2 with Ninja Theory. He actually enjoyed working with them. Capcom knew this would destroy the DMC Franchise's reputation so they gave in and said "Make DMC5 and do whatever you want. Don't kill Devil May Cry."
Thats some good speculating.
DmC is a good game the problem is that it is called Devil May Cry and compared to the old ones (minus DMC2, that sucks) the game is a huge letdown. I think fans wouldn't have made such a fuzz about it but the developers of the game started to mock the fans and even talk bad about the old games. That is what really drove fans insane. I remember watching those presentations by Tameem Antonidas on why DmC was better and just smiling because there would be so much drama
Well they're still in the Insane Asylum even after DMC5 copied much of what made DmC great.
As someone who used to hate on DmC back in the day and at the time had only played DMC 4 I can honestly say that DmC is an ok game in my eyes now that the rage has subsided. The pre-release controversy with how the devs treated the fans and the initial reveal trailer definitely didn't help paint the game in a positive light for a lot of series veterans. One thing that most people agree on is that the color coded enemies were a mistake and break the flow of the gameplay and that the level design was awesome except for all of the in your face / heavy handed text that pops up from time to time.
While the DMC series has always had juvenile humor, DmC kind of took it up that extra notch that proved to be grating for some people so that can come down to personal preferance. Personally I wasn't a big fan of the change of having Dante and Vergil be half devil and angel instead of half devil and human. Having them be half human makes them slightly more relateable and gives Dante more of a reason to sympathize with humans especially since his mother was one. I also prefer the themes about family and being human (or half devil) of the original series.
the visuals and level design were sweet af, and the dynamic battle camera was fucking awesome, Ninja Theory did well with the game
the whole idea of "rebooting" the series was a wrong step for Capcom but somehow it paid off, and at least they listened and we got DMC5
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My expierience with the DMC-series is the same as yours ^^. I played the same way through like you, so its nice to see someone, who has gone through the way.
I played it the same way.
The Dante's character development in this game made me a fan. And I just really hope they'd continue the story. Even just in the comics. The Nephilims, Dante's Hair slowly turning white, Vergil after hell etc.
I feel like we need a second game it is really fun sure the story may suck but it's better than dmc2 in so many ways.
I can see a remake/ reimagined where this dante is his own character with a different name, maybe he fights virgil, i would love to see more different demon hunters
Finally someone who appreciate this game it was really a very cool game, i am pretty sure if not for it's controversy it would have been a blast i wish this game has a sequel in the future
This was also my first venture into the devil may cry series. And honestly I loved it. It fun to just hack through everything, and the exchange with the succubus was awesome 😂 and my god the soundtrack! It was worth it just for that! I was PUMPED!
So DmC came out a few years after I had gotten into the series and already experienced DMC1-4. When it was first announced and I saw the look of it, I was not amused, I'll admit.
That said, I've always been the type of person to give everything a fair shot, so I picked it up instead of immediately writing it off.
And I'm honestly happy I did. I ended up having fun with DmC, particularly the new combat. It was an enjoyable mix-up of the original weapon-switch formula that was kinda started in 3 then really polished in 4 and 5. Less so with the story and characters, but I didn't think they were terrible either.
The Bob Barbas fight was incredible. It's not only my favorite moment of the Reboot, but I enjoyed it so much that I'd rate it as one of my favorite bosses in a franchise with a whole lot of awesome boss fights.
With all that said though, when I finished playing my first thought was basically "Alright, that was fun! Time to get back to the main series."
The main series just has a charm that I feel DmC was sorely lacking, particularly compared to 3, 4, and now 5. I'm pretty sure you'll get it too once you have the chance to play those.
This was also my first DMC game, before I played all the actual canon ones and while it definitely deviates too much from the classic game, I feel it's still solid especially if you don't compare with the DMC franchise
Devil May Cry 4 was my first (and I loved it), and I didn’t get to DmC until I played 1, 2, and 3 first. I’m saying this because most of the time when someone likes DmC, the usual assertion is “wElL yOu HaVeNt PlAyEd ThE rEaL dMc GaMeS”. Welp...I freaking love DmC. I love pretty much every game in the series (except 2, and even then I don’t hate 2).
Yea DMC4 is the only DMC ive played, because I dont have consoles. And it was surprisingly good. The gameplay is very good, the boss fight is very good, and the cinematic is very entertaining. Even the story is fleshed out. Its starts with a bang too, making Dante looks like a bad guy. And it turns out that Dante is very funny, and he likes to play, yet cared for his fellow companion. Dante is so cool on DMC4. Then emo DMC came out, saw emo Dante, watch the trailer and review, and decide not to touch this game because of emo Dante. Will buy DMC5, just waiting for DMC5 prices to come down to my price range.
Also what is your thoughts on God Of War series?
@gungrave10 unfortunately I’ve only played some of the most recent, so I don’t really have an opinion on God of War
Agreed. DmC is a fun Devil May Cry. ALL of them are (DMC 2 problem was the gameplay and dialogue). And yeah, the whole "YoU hAvEnT pLaYeD tHe ReAl DmC gAmEs" is pretty stupid, right along with "iF iT wAsNt CaLlEd DeViL mAy CrY iT wOuLdVe BeEn BeTtEr". Also, DMC 5 exsistence automatically makes DmC just a parallel universe. So if it's just a parallel universe what's the point of changing names?
I throughly enjoyed the reboot and thats coming from someone who grew up playing the OG DMC series on PS2. I definitely prefer the OG Dante over this one BUT I still loved it.
This is the first Dmc game I’ve ever played. I enjoyed it a lot and played the campaign 8 times
Same, I thought the game was good, until I played DMC 1-5, then played this again and was completely repulsed by it.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 sure.
I also didn't play any of the main games prior to playing this game. And I loved this one alot. The story too. I loved how it started off goofy but got progressively more serious as it went on, culminating in that epic one on one fight. I think this game gets hate simply because it's different from the main series. And I've noticed that people who haven't played a DmC game before tend to love this game.
0:15 is one of the main reasons I LOVED this game I mean just look it at I know I’m going to get a lot of hate for this but the level designs in dmc5 don’t hold a candle to dmc
It’s my main complaint with dmc 5 haha. Everytime I play any of the other games I find the level designs to be very unique and the feel of them are wonderful.
Dmc 5 looks almost practically the same as for more than half the game you are inside the tree which ruins the atmosphere and vibes of the game imo. Still a masterpiece of a game
Been binging your DMC series and really enjoying it.
I remember finding out that in DMC1 if you hit R2 Dante does a taunt and if you are near an enemy it gives you a chunk of free DT as a reward for the risk of being cheeky which I found both hillarious and helpful.
As the series has evolved that remained with *most* of them but over time it became less about the DT reward and more about the feeling of actually WANTING to be a cocky dickhead to an enemy you just laid an epic beatdown on and the amazing feeling it gave you when you got away with it.
That's something I felt this game was missing. Something that doesn't sound like a big deal but it kind of is to a lot of fans.
I'd suggest looking into DmC Definitive Edition since it adds a lot of quality of life improvements like 60 FPS, a lock-on, and adjusting the color-coded enemy thing to where it's less annoying.
Definitely the best way to play this game tbh.
Never even knew this existed. As a fan of the gameplay from the reboot, if not the plot of it, I'll definitely look into it ^^
Wait the game isnt on 60 fps?
@@asmartphoneinquarantine3269 Not on the console version of the original game, pc version is 60fps
Unless u have a PC to put some mods to it
i also think the Reboot is really underrated, but you know whats way, WAY more underrated than that?
You.
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I played this game recently, and I LOVED IT! This was my first DMC game, but I knew how Dante usually acts. They made it clear in the opening that this was not the original Dante and I loved the jokes, maybe because it was perfect for my demographic.
Yeah same. I grew up where Shadow the Hedgehog was considered really cool.
This is the DMC I actually put time n
Glad someone else out there realized RE4 doesn't have good writing, much as I love that game (just played through it again yesterday).
I'm with your journey and can't wait to see you review 3, 4, and 5. My cousin is in a similar position which he like DmC but hadn't play the other ones and I'd like him to try the other games as well. Anyway, Devil May Cry story is really good starting with 3. I subscribed to you so keep it up.
I didn't have a lot of problems with DmC's story, but the combat mechanics killed it for me. There wasn't a manual targeting system, so it was confusing as heck trying to do even a simple Stinger since the game kept disagreeing with me on which enemy to lock on to, and whether it allowed me to do the moves I wanted to do. The Angel/Devil mode was an interesting addition to combat, it looked like a great way to switch around on the fly during combos, but then color-coded enemies requiring specific modes to damage defeated that very purpose of 'constant weapon switching for sick combos'. It was just so restricted and so dumb, instead of giving players more power, they took away the good stuffs and locked us down.
I had 2 load up dmc 4 2 see what u meant
This game came out at the perfect time for me. Just graduated high school, having hyped it up for nearly 2 years before that. I was edgy as hell at that point, so I legit thought it was a cool game. Now I love it because it's dumb, but really fun to play. Also, genuinely wish they would have implemented some of the jumping through the breaking world elements into 5. I think it could have been interesting.
Also the music and art from this game is top tier stuff.
I never thought about it when I played it, but I'm starting to see parallels between how the world actually works and the lore behind this game over the past 2 years.
the idea of the media, food etc secretly controlling us a fairly old trope; see the movie "They Live" from the 80s (this is where the "OBEY" symbology comes from)
A the color coded enemies made me learn to switch between weapons(basicaly switch while you do a charged attack) it helps to incorporate all 5 weapons in combos B: in the remaster of DmC they changed it so that you just do less damage
1:05 where did you find a t rating on dmc 4?
I was turned off by the story and by a few of the cut scenes but I feel like the gameplay more than makes up for what people had an issue with. I too really enjoyed this game, I actually liked vergils downfall more than the main game. (I know I'm weird)
Solid 9/10 the gameplay is so good and I don't even know why you didn't talk about the erection inducing soundtrack. The reboot had such a distinct identity it was great. And I'm a hardcore DMC fan been playing the games since I was 12 and now I'm 20
So how is it after playing all the games? Please make a video about it.
I actually think this is the best DMC game in the series. The best thing about this game is the easy control design of the characters. This game is heavily underrated
I love the scene transitions and set pieces from the reboot yknow loke how the levels explode apart and you end up having to hop across the piece's, it looks great. Combat was good too, not on par with dmc 3 or 5 but still alot better than most dmc knock offs like god of war XD
Honestly im happy dmc has enough of a following that things like this can happen it's always fun to see how things could have been. Saying all that I still wouldn't change a damn thing about 5
Maybe V
DmC was fun imo. And as someone who’s only played reboot, 4 and 5, yeah, I see why people don’t like this one, also the history on the development is a train wreck, but still fun to play, just kinda rough you gotta tune out the whole story and character writing out
Big fan of the dmc series. I was skeptical about the reboot but I tried it. The gameplay is top notch and the story "refreshing" and different. I like it, play it from now and then.
This was also my first game in the series, which is probably why I’m as forgiving towards it as I am. You entered in a good place.
DmC was too obvious with its modern messages in terms of story. It's like "Wow, consumerism is shallow, capitalism is making people slaves to corporations. See!? I'm so egdy and intelligent to see through it". No kidding man. It's just narrative of obviousness to the point of autoparody which doesn't add any substantive thougths about what we already know. That's why I don't like the story of DmC spin-off. It's just like equivalent edgy teenager which is telling You that everyone around is shitty, corrupted people, the world is fucked up but he can't give You any constructive criticism or his vision of changing the world. It's like mindless rebellion for the sake of rebellion.
The writing is so cliche it pains to watch.
It’s just a shitty knockoff of They Live by John Carpenter but with demons
You think that's cliche. You must have never played the rest of the series.
The older games are no different lol
Dawg, you act like the original DMC games had some groundbreaking storytelling lmao.
@@LiterallySpikeSpiegel yeah I agree. They were pretty shit at that.
Loved this game, 1000'd it. Enjoyed every minute. Nightclub level was sweet
I’m a fan of the series. I played this one I loved the redesign. I found it quite surprising and while on the nose I find it very relevant to what’s going on now
The revoke of the DMC license from Ninja Theory is my biggest gripe with the medium. I swear I think about it at least once a month. Second time I thought about it this month btw seeing your thumbnail
I enjoy it more than the average hack 'n' slash: God of War, star wars tfu, dark siders etc. But compared to the best the genre has to offer: DMC, bayonetta, ninja gaiden it just kinda lacks in depth. Also the writing is really bad. Not only is it just... Crude, but it's also needlessly pretentious.
Overall it's just okay, like a 7/10 for me.
the only time I knew about the devil may cry 4
is when I entered the search for dmc devil may cry
and he showed me the fourth game
I've never heard of the fourth part before
for some reason no one ever spoke about it
I’m looking forward to picking up all these games when I finish paying some bills off. I’ve played a little of three and four but I was really young and don’t remember them all so well.
The main reason "fans" don't like DmC: Devil May Cry is because of Capcom's bad decisions. No, unlike most fans think, Ninja Theory is not responsible for all the hate they get.
NT is a talented studio that actually likes the DMC games, so when Capcom offered them the opportunity to make a game of that franchise, they were very pleased. At first, NT wanted to create a game much more thaithful to the originals, but Capcom didn't. They wanted to westernize the franchise because they thought the japanese culture influences was what kept it from being more popular (which is false) so they wanted the game to be as far as possible from the originals. Most decisions like Dante smoking, or Dante being sex addict came from Capcom, for exemple. Seing that most of these "ideas" were... badly received (to say the least), they doubled back on multiple occasions. That lead to a pretty inconsistant and uneven game, were a lot of re-written things don't match up with the original idea.
Capcom is the only responsible for this. NT just did what they were told to. Hideaki Itsuno (DMC3,DMC4 and DMC5's director) had to make sure of that as he was a supervisor on the game.
So all things considered, the game is not that bad, like, at all. It's a pretty solid action game. And even Itsuno liked it. He even said that if he would've prefered make a DmC 2 rather than DMC5.
The only issue, considering the mess DmC is, was to actually call it DmC: Devil May Cry. Not only that name is pretty stupid, but it got to a point were the only things the game has in common with the original DMCs are the characters names. This makes it suffers even more than its idiotic decisions, and it got more or less the same fate than PREY (2017): a great game with very nice ideas in it, but people hated it without even trying to understand why, just because it took the name of a game that a lot of people (including me) were expecting (but got canceled), and for no reason, considering it doesn't have anything to do with the original franchise. I admit that at first I hated PREY (2017) but now... it's just one of my favorite games. I love it even more than the 2006's series. The thing is that I still wouldn't have said no to Prey 2 (and it looked amazing). In the same way, I would've liked another DmC: Devil May Cry, with more refined ideas and more consistent plot.
Both "visions" could've existed side by side, and would've loved to.
But bad decisions can destroy wonderful ideas.
Wow, this is actually good comment here. Personally I, even being a fan of older games, never hated dmc and actually loved its gameplay and genuenly better level design (which IMO was weakest point of all DMC titles - levels were bland and boring for the most part, with couple of memorable locations sprinkled between boring ones.) with actually vibrant colors and cool ideas. I didn't find combat that much worse than in DMC 3 or 4 . Of course with DMC 5 existing this reboot can't do anything - DMC5 has probably best combat system in the series. And I even liked the ideas like color-coded enemies even though I understand they weren't done that well, I could see good intention behind them - probably on paper devs wanted to make that some enemies will be fighting in groups and player would have to either change his weapons or properly pick targets in combat.
No developer wants to make a bad game, and I'm pretty sure that NT wanted to make best Devil May Cry game ever but considering we are talking about Capcom, I'm not surprised that many players were disappointed.
Sorry, but Tameem can go fuck himself.
accurate
If Ninja Theory wasn't responsible for any of this, why did they pick a fight with the whole fanbase and even go as far as say shit like they don't care if anyone buys the game? Guess what, it turned out that picking a fight with your customer based was a bad idea.
@@ElvenRaptor Taneem did (Not NT), because some people have a bad temper and can't stand criticism. It happens, even in the video game industry. But guess what, when you want to do something, you put your heart in it, then publisher says no, so you do as they ask, then people insult you and send you death threats (not kidding) for something you have little to no control over, you just want to say "fuck you" to everyone. I don't support Taneem nor his reaction, but I understand it.
I definitely liked this more than the original 1. Even after playing both.
This game is so much better than people want to give it credit for. I totally understand the dislike of the change in tone and the fact it was a “reboot” at the time and abandoned the original timeline, but in it’s own right - the gameplay is fantastic and I found the new take on the lore very interesting. I honestly find this to be my 3rd favorite behind 5 and 3.
This will be my first entry into the series too. Looks promising so far
While I've been a fan of Devil May Cry since the first game, I was never that good at actually playing them. I never learned too many of the advanced techniques that the pros use and stuff like that, so when it comes to the gameplay, I don't have that much to say other than what you said yourself.
But the big sticking-point to me, and a lot of fans both before and after the release, was the story and the characterisation. Both the developer and the media made a big deal about the story, how it was "mature" and talked about "real world issues" unlike those "childish" and "corny" original games, but then the game came out and it was all a bunch of "wake up sheeple", "corperations are literally the devil"-stuff that had been done way better in films like They Live, but with a layer of wannabe-edge that made the whole thing just cringy. DMC never had deep or complex stories, but 3 and 4 had simple stories that felt genuinly heartfelt, with strong character-moments and clear and relatable themes. The "teen angst, but made by people in their 30's"-style of the reboot just felt hollow in comparison, and the way the lead developer and the media talked shit about the OG-games and their fans leading up to the release of the games just made it worse.
It's the same with the characters. Dante was always kind of a wise-craking asshole, but he was a loveable asshole. While the developers didn't find the right balance until 3, the general idea was that he was a guy who genuinly liked what he was doing, and talked smack to the bosses and enemies hopeing to get a good fight. Reboot-Dante (Donte) just feels like an asshole who dosen't enjoy or care about anything. Shure, learning to care is part of his arc, but that means he's an asshole for most of the game, and his development dosen't really feel natural or believable. It's also centered around Kat, an incredibly flat character that rivals Kyrie from 4 as a boring damsel in distress, who was supposed to be an "improvement" compared to the series "problematic" portrayal of women in earlier games, but ended up being a worse stereotype than DMC had ever had. :P
But worst of all was Vergil, who was transformed from an interesting and honorable character driven by tragedy to obtain power at the cost of his humanity, to a weeb hacker with an actual fedora, who shoots women in the back with no hesitation. The fight he and Dante have at the end also makes little sense in the narrative and is only there because the fights with Vergil where some of the best moments in 3, and the devs wanted to copy that, even if it makes the characters look dumb.
So yeah, the reboot is a fine game gameplay-wise and a solid introduction to character-action, but the story is silly on its own, but insulting when viewed in the context that the developers and the media created for it. Sorry about the long comment, but I care too much about the story and characters in these silly action-games. XD Great video man, and I look foreward to seeing more from you. :)
I'm happy to know i'm not the only one who loves this game
Thanks to your videos I actually went ahead and picked this game up when it was on sale for $8
Long time fan here and I am enjoying the definitive edition alot more than the vanilla version. This game has some of the best gameplay and stylistic settings in the whole series
I loved this one lol it’s basically how Dante became Dante
It's refreshing to hear someone talking positively about DmC. As a big fan of both the series and of Ninja Theory, I had a lot of fun with it and honestly think it has some of the best boss fights in the entire franchise. It's clearly no DMC3, but I've never really understood the hate - silly, awkward over-the-top goofiness is what the series does best.
Most of DmC bosses are way too restrictive compare to mainline after 3 IMO. Let's take...Bob Barbas and Cerberus. Bob requires you to dodge color walls then hit the button before you can damage him, then you enter the camera mob fight. It breaks the flow and feels more like a puzzle. Meanwhile, in Cerberus fight, you have to fight him and avoid his attacks at the same time, which allows for smoother flow and higher skill ceiling. They're both giant and relatively immobile bosses (until Cerberus change phase ofc) but the difference in approach changes the experience a lot.
Minh Lê Honestly I was mostly referring to the thematic, visual and narrative style of the bosses, since I consider Barbas and Mundus’ Spawn in particular to be far more memorable than 95% of the random demon fights in the other games. Mechanically, I see your point but I think that’s more of a subjective thing. A different style of boss isn’t necessarily a bad boss. It’s worth noting that I’m more of a one-and-done sort of player though, so for people who play the boss fights over and over again the experience is probably very different.
@@AverageJoeVideoGames I get you, but it's not the kind of experience DMC fans would expect. It's not inherently inferior, it just doesn't fit the franchise after 3. But hey, if you like it, that's great!
Btw, look up Sakaki's Battle against Credo. I think it's the perfect video to showcase DMC boss potential
I really like this game and have heard about the devil may cry series before. This was my first dmc game and I thought this was how Dante acted. After me wanting to look into the dmc series I discovered that that wasn’t the case. I bought the dmc HD collection 4SE and looked up the order for the games because my friend told me the games were out of order. I played dmc 3 and loved this Dante way better but I still liked the reboot Dante. I just started dmc 1 and I can’t wait to play the other dmc games because I feel like I’m gonna really like this series. And I still think I’m gonna believe the reboot isn’t bad after playing all the games.
I also like this game, was my first Devil May Cry and honestly it was fun. Very on the nose about everything, and the characters were all pretty winny, but the gameplay was fun and the visual presentation was creative and captivating
The reboot is actually good and should continue alongside the main franchise.
I thought the same but with 5 coming out that seems unlikely. I would love a sequel to this game. But I doubt Capcom will ask Ninja Theory to do that.
Thank you for not hating on this good game
The visuals are very Unreal Engine 3. They struggled to get the concept art into the final product imo. One might wonder if that technical trouble extended to the combat coding. Maybe it was supposed to be better but they had too much resistance from the engine.
This game was just an unfortunate situation for everyone involved, except Hideaki Itsuno who got to visit London and had a much more relaxed schedule than he did for 2, 3 and 4.
we need now a review of this after youve played all others
The True Blood-esque aesthetic will always have a place in my heart, for this dude who missed out his entire young adulthood.
Just a watered down version of the real thing.
@@DCtheSoulChild Lol nope
True
It was intentional. You can't fault the company for making a character that felt different than Dante when Capcom gave them strict orders to do so
@MisAnthro Pony Would you rather drink pure syrup or fizzy soda?
@@alpharabbit2353 mmmmm, flavor??
i’ve NEVER liked a video on TH-cam, but the fact that SOMEONE was willing to jump out there and say this is a good game makes me smile.
And Devil May Cry is my favorite video game franchise of all time.
There is no shortage of people saying it's a good game. It is mechanically a good character action game. But the attitude of the game of some of the developers, the story and the characterization is just bad, it is a metaphorical spit in the face to anyone that cares about the original games
Tiêu Đức Anh even “the attitude” of the developers was overblown in the time and that sentiment has been carried over into today. and the story and characterization isn’t exactly bad. it’s just slightly different.
@@tyjones9864 the dev people shit out, tameem, directs all NTs games and is a great dude
@@tieuucanh8958 the story is better than DMC 1 2 3 and 4, 5 is great though
DmC was also my first game of the series, and I remember liking it quite a bit as well.
Played DMC4 years ago and then this recently and prefer it to originals, which I have now played all of.
Got DMC5 to play once finished some other stuff.
I love this game.after dmc 3 se,this is my second favorite(i have not played 5 yet)
Well? Been about a year. What do you think?
@@jsmaster4779 dmc3,dmc5,DmC
The story, aesthetic and character weren’t good but i mean c’mon. The gameplay and combat were pretty dope
William Albatross loved these games since I was young looking forward to see what you think of them!
The design of the areas and some of the enemies(not the red and blue enemies) are pretty good imo and while i love the gameplay, the bosses could use some work.
Ehh there's no Force Edge even though Vergil's Downfall had a new design of it for Sword Illusion.
Combat was fun on a superficial level, but it lacks in depth and challenge. Color coded enemies are stupid and overused, style meter is way too generous and the lack of a lock on was annoying.
Platforming was leagues better than the originals though, and the level designers deserve a medal.
@@williamcronshaw5262 I enjoy the fact this area in this building stretches out trying to prevent you from reaching where you need to go. However it wasn't fast enough, I'd love to atleast try to fight back and pick up the pace but as an optional thing.
gameplay, design and bosses were actually very nice. i liked that game very much.
DMC was my first exposure to the series. Didnt even know it wasnt cannon until I looked up the plot so i could play dmc 5. I loved it. Fun combos an gameplay. I personally think the combat is more fun and satisfying than dmc 5.
I thought the reboot was fun. I liked the combat alot and its a self contained story that kinda touches every point of the established lores.
I've played every single one as they came out through out the years. Lets just say Devil May Cry 2 is TRAAAAAAASH!!! Enough said...
Nice review. I think my overall feelings for this game was that it was pretty decent in looks and
gameplay and I can still go back to it from time to time. Though I feel like it would have been an advantage to be its own game and not tied to the DMC name due to feeling like it missed a lot of what made the
previous games appealing.
Pros
Stylish meter announcement voice
Slow-mo cam when last enemy is killed
Holding down the triggers for weapon switching was kind of good
Being able to parry many enemy attacks
Dante having a grapple hook was useful
Being able to try moves and view video demos for them
Limbo and its visuals were really well done
Vergil DLC although short at least wasn't just playing through Dante's levels
Cons
No styles
No hard lock on
Ruined Devil Trigger
Majority of bosses feel way to static and just stick to their allocated spot
Having to double tap forward to perform dash moves
Launch moves having a dedicated button (O/B could have been put to better use)
Colour coded enemies
I wasn't feeling the "Wake up people! Our society is run by demons!" plot line they went for
Didn't like the new personalities for characters:
Dante: was still cocky like the old games but came off more unlikable
Vergil: went from being a cold and solitary warrior to somebody who can't seem to function
without Dante there to help him. Can't even take him seriously as a final boss because the game constantly shows how much weaker he is than Dante.
Kat: was fine but I hated the fact that she couldn't fend for herself when most DMC
girls are combatants
I know many cons were fixed in the special edition but I bought the first version when it came
out so the cons still stand for me
Just wondering on why you did not play the definitive edition of DmC because it removes the whole red enemies deflecting angel weapons and vise-versa
Playing the original version is just more authentic, I guess. This was the one that everyone hated so much more, so he goes for this one to get the "true" controversial experience.
It gets far more hate than it deserves just cuz its not devil may cry dosent mean its not a good game
I consider myself a DMC veteran , I have played all of the games in almost every difficulty which means I have taken in what the games have to offer.In my opinion, the reboot isn't a bad game, I personally liked it a lot. It just isn't a proper dmc game, it lacks in many aspects, for example, the combat is more player friendly in the reboot, it tends to hold your hand, a real dmc game doesn't, it is brutal and unforgiving. Also dante in this game is way too edgy, dante we love is goofy and funny. All in all, the dmc dmc devs made a game to pull in new people to the series but completely forgot about the fans they already had
goofy dante didn't exist til the third game
@@aagh8714 DMC 1 intro.
Trish bursts through the door on a motorcycle
Dante's reaction is WOOHOOUW! Slow down babe! followed by "Well well...what do we have here? Nature calls, it's in the back" (and then they have a normal convo about Dante's work)
She throws a sword into him later and says "didn't your daddy ever teach you how to use a sword" and throws a the motorcycle at him
He replies with a snarky and mocking tone and says "A Sword?" laughs like the cocky fucker he is and pulls out Ebony and Ivory through a fancy finger twirl and shoots the motorcycle to pieces
if that's not good enough to jog your memory about Goofy Dante.
here's a bunch of other DMC 1 goofy moments
After phantom got impaled, was dying and saying Dante was Sparda and he said "it can't be..." Dante says "You're right, i'm his son Dante" kisses his left hand's index and middle fingers before lifting his hand up and saying "Sweet dreams" with a smirk on his face
Dante to Griffon in a once again excessively cocky manner after Griffon asks Dante if he is the human who challanges mundus "Flock off Feather face, or you can stick around and find out the hard way!" while doing the same come on motion Dante in DMC3 does in one of his taunts
And let's not forget the very "Jackpot!" he shouts before booting Mundus back to hell with two bullets and while Mundus is going back he waves once again while cockily saying "Goodbye! and when you do come back? Give my regards to my son will ya?" and bowing slightly
Dante's always been goofy, dahell you on about?
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 I don't why people all of a sudden think Dante never acted that way until the 3rd game
The only time he didn't was in that one game whose name shall not be spoken
@@aronsvanlaugsson5338 DMC1 Dante doesnt give a fuck lol, DMC3 dante would ride the motorcycle around for 5 minutes and crash, 1 dante just doesnt care
what u mean challenging? dmc always was braindead button mashing,i can't tell which dante is more cringe emo dante or dante with white wig dancing jackson , i can't take anything seriously in newest dmc, dmc's story, braindead combat and characters always been shitty, only dmc that tried to take itself little bit seriously was dmc 2013 and butthurt fanbase fcked it up.
2:24 - "And a little worried" 😂👌
Thankyou, for making this video.
My opinion is same as yours.
I loved, I mean, LOVED DmC on every aspects, but haven't played original Devil May Cry series.
I installed Devil May Cry HD Collection yesterday and have started from the beginning. Curious and intrigued to know why people prefer the original series to the reboot one.
If you play 3, the reason is obvious.
Same dude. I'm in the middle of DMC 5 and I'm liking it, I gave up on DMC 1 because I hated it.
@@Saltyaf38 If you haven't played 3, please do so.
Hyve Minds even said that it's better than the reboot.
Idk which version of this game you were playing but I will give them credit on the colored enemies at least in the definitive edition they made it so you can attack red enemies with the angel scythe and vice versa
DMC was incredible and should have gotten a sequel.
Big fax
I played all dmc serie. And I love this one. Gameplay is just awesome, soundtrack is awesome, the game is hell of fun. Biggest disappointment is coming from dmc 3 with the best Dante and have this one. I wanted to hate the game but I can't. I love it. One of the best bta I ever played.
I had part 2, 4 haven't played the latest. But I was diggin Shadows of The Damned, Wet & Dantes Inferno. I like this 1
I just noticed that he tucked his jeans into his boots in that dressing cutscene.
Priorities
Yoo, I actually LOVE this game! It got me into DMC as a whole and I thought it was so much fun!! I kinda get that it's kinda mid, but I think most of the hate came from people thinking this would replace the original series... Great vid dude
To many new viewers I’m going to explain how this was perceived at the time.
One of the biggest gaming TH-camrs AngryJoe, hated the game but he influenced the youtube hate for it, it’s just my two cents.
I do think that the sales probably weren’t the best but at the time AngryJoe didn’t have the competition he has now.
I know for a fact that he doesn’t finish the games he reviews.
It was an unfair and biased take.
I think if your reading this have an open mind and play and beat the game before you trash it.
I think that it was a good game and I enjoyed the reboot.
DMC5 is great, but they kept the emo look for V, something AngryJoe hated so hard they he had a music video on it.
I know some may disagree with this take but he was such a big TH-camr at the time and had very little competition.
My take home message is to have an opinion for yourself and complete the game before you hate on it.
Actually, Joe gave it 7/10 and said that it's a great game that doesn't deserve the 0/1s it was getting all over the Web.
@@gotinogaden it wasn’t gettin a 0 or 1 from legitimate reviewers. Also, he made a video ridiculing how Dante looked emo, looks familiar…kinda like V?
I think Joe didn’t like change and if it was released today with slightly better graphics it would be praised.
To also give a bit more context for the writing issue, I think a lot of the perception of the game is also tainted by the pre release marketing and interviews that people from Ninja Theory did, where they seemed to be taking themselves very very seriously (and the first look at the reboot which was way more edgy than the released product somehow lmao).
The game itself still takes itself waaaayyy too seriously.
Interesting. I never saw any of the marketing for this game but I felt the game's tone was pretty tongue-in-cheek as soon as I started playing.
Honestly I can't blame you if DmC has really been your actual first experience with the series. I'd be surprised if that didn't influence your opinion when you've played all of them but I'm still curious to know how you'll perceive them.
Also they were pretty homophobic towards old Dante.
@@HyveMindsGames Watch Foxcade's DMC Retrospective series when you finish everything up to DMC4. He's the definitive guide to everything you may want to know about the series including the reboot and anime respectively.
The Gaming Brit Show used to be one of the more reliable reviews as he did a series similar to yours but his are just reviews, Vash the Shell Bullet is also reliable. Both guys are known to be big action game fans as well so they're not limited to just DMC.
be ready for what’s in store for the real series
It really is over-hated and underrated. It's such a shame that loud and narrowminded "fans" didn't see its potential.
This is still 1 of those I go back 2
i love this game , it had good things of another sequal but as always , fans fuck up things
i was super excited to see it on the shelves back then, coming back from DMC3. never bothered with DMC4, looked and felt really stiff and stupid when I tried it. This is super refreshing and I still get back to it in the Definitive Edition that eliminated its few flaws. Fanboys of DMC5 owe a lot more to this game than they will ever admit anyway ;)
@@ghostofthesun89 Itsuno himself said he liked this game and borrowed ideas when making dmc5 so idk what you're trying to implie with that last line. He showed some love to DmC in DMC5, in vergils final fight with dante having call backs to lines donte says and even having vergil pull out the doppelganger ability. I don't hear any DMC fans whining about donte references in 5, most fans just let DmC be its own thing why you gotta be so defensive.
@@ghostofthesun89 there's a world of difference between "reference" and "tribute". I think you're confusing the two. References may be fun regardless, tributes can be so out of place they are straight cringy.