@@evgenyomegin Having just finished the game... I think it's absolutely hilarious how much the giant tree is actually glossed over at the start. It becomes a setpiece much later on but for the most part its there but... Who gives a shit. Deadweight and losing my arm. Those were my motivation... Until I started hearing some of the songs. Now I have different motivation.
@@baddus because it's a regular thing in DMC world? Think about this, Nero is a devil hunter, like Dante, and what he does best is slaying demons and taking contracts. First off, he loses his arm, with the Yamato that Dante left him as a memento of his brother, that wouldnt be ever torn away by some lesser demons. Then, Dante takes a contract on Urizen and fails. Who would be the last hope to save Red Grave and the world if not him? V even states that Nero is their last chance to defeat Urizen. I think it's enough motivation to fight the demons. Like a witcher who fights dangerous monsters that kill people, he fights demons. I see no lack of motivation here, it's obvious. People just concentrate too much attention at the fact that Dante mocks Nero and Nero mocks Dante when the time is right not paying attention to full list of events. Like, if Dante didn't call Nero a dead weight, would he just sit still and watch people die because he is not motivated? Absurd.
@@evgenyomegin mate, Nero is literally salty on this whole deadweight thing. He even bitchslapped Dante just to call him deadweight for crying out loud. JK. We all know Nero is a good guy. He doesnt need any motivation to help and save those people in that city.
The only bad enemy is the fire bat thingies. They only appear twice so I can never actually figure out their patterns. The fury is fine too as long as I'm ready for them. But those damn bats.
I love how when Nero gets his true dt, he talks about credo and when he gets his devil trigger he gets angel wings that look and represent credo’s sacrifice
Also angelic wings which it's fits him cause he fights for his family and his loved ones and for the good.. Dante is just loves trolling around while Vergil is just hungry for power and plus Nero is a grandson of Sparda and specially Sparda also fought for his family and for his loved ones
@@Omega-jg4oq when you say it that way, it really feels like Nero brought it all full circle. Sparda did everything he could to protect his family. Due to the events that cause the brothers to separate, both ended up with issues and not a lot of straightforward brotherly love, but instead a rivalry. Nero, who despite his upbringing had a good sense of family, as well as, if I remember correctly, expecting to be a father if I remember that phone call prior to him gaining his DT, achieved what Sparda wanted his sons to learn, and protect his family. Kinda funny he seems like the most powerful DT of the Sparda bloodline so far
V isn't for everyone. I personally think he's really fun, others think otherwise, but most of us can agree that he's very "love everything about him," or, "hate his missions with a passion."
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 You aren't wrong, but "style over substance," comes across as though it's inherently a bad thing. I'd describe it more as, "what he lacks in variety, he makes up for in style."
@@arkhamjamesv yeah I’m aware that what I said is a tad more critically that what I actually think. I’ve seen some really cool stuff done with V. I’ve just seen insane things done with Dante too.
The release of DMC5 had retrospectively made DmC better received and the fandom started to appreciate its gameplay because we got the characters and storyline we liked back. DMC 5 is so good it dissolves hate.
Honestly, yeah. I'll be fair, I still don't like DmC:DmC (for a laundry list of reasons), but I don't really mind that people like it. It DOES have some genuinely good ideas in it (it's just when it comes to that, alot of the time it's mostly wasted potential or questionably implemented), and at this point, while i'd love a DMC6 (or maybe a spin-off featuring Lady, Trish, and Lucia), I wouldn't mind if the DmC fans got their sequel. That said, I still think DMC1 is a better game over the reboot (personal reasons, mostly, but yeah...)
Well, yes. That it's now a weird side-path rather than "The Future Of The FranchiseTM take it or leave it" has obviously made people hate it less, if only because it no longer directly threatens something we love. Fact is, it was always just a pretty okay game at worst, the problem was that if it had succeeded at any point, even in its definitive edition, this game wouldn't exist.
I love the facial animations, many modern games have dull expressions and this game keeps the characters alive. V was a surprise for me. If you know what you are doing you can do all crazy things with SSS rank, but you need to coordinate your minions and land combos with each one which can be challenging when you only worry to use one button normally.
My only problem with dmc 3, as mentioned in the video, are some of the enemies are just fucking horrendouse on higher difficulties. Mainly the archers. Dmc v had some tough ones and the protoangelos had way to much health when DT popped but I never felt like a level was ruined by them.
@@joemoe650 In my opinion DMD was never meant to be fun, it's just straight-up challenge yourself and suffer by own demand to get that feeling of extreme success at the end and the fun is just a side bonus. Or if you're really good then you can have a lot of fun
It's one of the best Capcom games ever, and no one can change my mind. I initially thought Nero's character was weak, but in this game he was amazing. I have no problem with him carrying on the franchise, as long as Dante and Vergil continue being a big part of it.
@amlightspeedy3090they can pull a gta and have Dante and Vergil in hell and binging back topside with Nero… maybe Dante has an illigitamate child somewhere lol
One thing to note with Royal Guard. Perfect guarding doesn't just preserve your DT, it generates DT. So if you git gud at parrying, you can have tons of DT gauge to use. Similarly, using a Trickster dash to go through an active attack will also generate a smaller amount of DT.
Honestly, I think the major thing missing from V's gameplay is more complexity. I'd like to see him, or at least his gameplay, return in a sequel but more fleshed out. With Dante and Nero it feels like I always have more to learn and get better at, but with V I feel like I hit to skill ceiling really fast.
yeah I think a big problem with V that could have made him better is adding more summons to swap between. Dante can change up his styles and weapons and Nero can change up his buster arms and gets more abilities when you beat the game. Meanwhile V never gains any new kinds of powers or anything really. Sure yeah the summons are based on DMC1 bosses so I'm not sure how to do it lore wise but adding more summons or at least *something* to mix up his gameplay more would probably help him feel less boring to play after the first runthrough
@@denkerbosu3551 if devil trigger didn't put them on auto pilot, but expanded their moveset much like devil trigger increases the power of some of Dante's moves, it could be interesting. I always thought that Nightmare promotion just wasn't fleshed out enough.
I think the fact that he has 3 summons makes it harder to flesh him out. If they took Vs stuff and mixed it with Vergil’s Doppleganger then for DMC6 that new devil hunter could be two characters that you juggle enemies between. Kind of like Astral Chain but you have more direct control over the second character.
For real V needed to be more fleshed out. I love V and found him to be by far the easiest to use making the game be on easy mode. Dante could be seen as hard while Nero is normal. But adding new moves would have been nice for his devil trigger.
Vergil never got to be the main protagonist. There are still some ideas that can be explored. Where is Sparda? What dmc's Heaven look like? What happened to the "god of evil" mundus defeated in the lore?
@@tarekalsalloum3811 They might have already been answered if the game wasn't rushed. It's shame how dmc 4 turned out. It still way better than dmc 2, but still the 2nd worst game in the franchise for me. Just had to run out of steam halfway through.
@@MrH103 Maybe someday we'll get the answers we sorely desire. there was an apsence in capcom's presence in this year's game awards, maybe they're cooking up something cool
One criticism I’ll add about DMCV. The lack of unlockables really stings for me. DMC3 rewarded you for going up the difficulty ladder with more costumes to play with. Even with the “Special Edition” of 5 they didn’t add any costumes whatsoever. All costumes you can get are just recolours of the base outfits.
Yeah as far as an actual game it's outstanding, but as far as collectables there is almost nothing. I'm not a big collectable person most the time anyways but even I thought it was an odd change
and the only unlockable that we get is infinite devil trigger that lets be honest most people wont use cuz, it to much to bother unlocking for some people, and something that makes the game to easy for the rest. So yeah i want dmc 1 and 2 costume capcom >:(
I binge watched this DMC series and trust me, You're reviews are really really great. I just love how you present your take on each subject. Thank you for this series
Cavalier is actually in response to everyone requesting that they make a motorcycle weapon based on the dmc3 cutscene where is Dante uses Lady's rocket powered motorcycle as a weapon
Noticed you didn't talk about Nero's Buster Knuckle where you can augment attacks by pushing Buster to punch people in the face while using Red Queen, and I kind of wanted to hear your take on it. The way it affects knockback is super fun to use in combos and really diversified my second playthrough from my first. I love using it to punch people in the face while Nero charges Showdown, or as a way to keep a juggle going during an air taunt.
This is super true. The first "technique" I learnt with Nero was infinitely chaining the Calibur attack by using buster punch to cancel the attack knockback and enemy step to reset myself. It was a moment of awakening for me after playing the game in a very basic manner the first time
@@nea9009 Yeah, I know. I understand where Hyve Minds is coming from. I was just pointing out that the comment OP made was a joke. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything (sorry if it came across that way), but it just bums me out that people seem to have difficulty distinguishing when a joke is made nowadays.
I actually always interpreted Nero's moves having less flashiness and effects to them as being a result of having his Devil Bringer yeeted, and with it the vast majority of his demonic power. Same with him struggling to lift enemies at first. Gotta remember that technically speaking up until the end of the game Nero's playing life on Hard Mode due to being nerfed by a loss of demonic power, after all. He only starts pulling out the superhuman strength moves again after he gets his Devil Trigger.
That or he uses the Polish style of Saber combat, Polish style relys on Cuts and Leans which explains why Nero always leans with every strike. Coincidentally the style is famously used by the Winged Hussars, was called by German Masters as a "Hellish Cut" and weirdest of all its said by people on the web its as if the practitioners aren't guarding their hands (Should have had that advice sooner huh Nero) Unfortunately Polish style is mostly a lost art of combat, thanks to the ups and downs of Polish history its mostly gone, now modern practioners instead reconstruct it using other styles based on how near they are like German, Turkic/Steppe, Turkish and Hungarian.
Hey man, subbed for the DMC review series, but I'm on board for whatever else you've got lined up, I dig your style and respect the way you convey your opinions. Keep at it, man :)
They should've made V play more with magic than just the familiars, so he would've made sense for him to just fall back while his familiars grab the enemy's attention.
Can't believe it's been a year and a half. Always wanted to know someone like u who played DmC first experience with the series, I'm very happy that u did this, I really enjoyed ur videos, always clicked as soon as u popped up. And as a long time DMC fan myself I approve of ur feelings towards these game haha, jk. Glad u had a fun time
DMC 5 has become one of my favorite games of all time. I played through the DMC series last summer and discovered your channel looking for reviews, and yours were and are great. I'll be looking forward to what you do with the channel in the future!
It feels great to see this series finally finished after following it from the very start. I couldn't agree more on your views on this one, except that DMC3 is still a little better plotwise for me. Even if the DMC content stops I'm still interested to see what other game series you could bring a fresh perspective to! Love you and hope you're having a great day!
@@liviekumori Nah, that's not true. DMC 2 sold less than DMC 1. Although looking at the numbers again, it looks like they counted the figures from the DmC Definitive Edition in the total DmC sales compared to DMC 5, where they didn't actually count the DMC 5 Special Edition figures. That's weird.
I think everything you said was perfectly fair. I will say that i personally prefer DMC1 over the reboot as i love the gothic castle design, and love Mundus being an evil allegory for god. Plus, Air Raid and Vortex to me have never been better since DMC1. As for my top it'll have to be DMC3 on Switch with DMC5 only just behind it in second place. The reason i say this as well is that the only issue i had from DMC3 was style switching and the Arkham fight, as most annoying enemies like the angels and the Dullahan can be dealt with by switching to quicksilver and folding them. The Arkham fight, however, is just abysmal. On top of that, the story imo is better in 3, but DMC5s is also good. As for why DMC5 comes up short for me at least. I feel as though DMC3 Switch has proven that Dante doesnt need to be limited to only 4 core styles. Gimmick styles like Doppelganger and Quicksilver can be easily switched to with a double tap of a style button, yet DMC5 removes Dantes Doppelganger and Time manipulation. And while I absolutely LOVE Sin DT and the Quadruple S technique that comes with it, and see Sin DT as the single greatest form in any series ever, i feel like it only almost makes up for Dantes missing powers that he should have. As for level design, I just think Temen-Ni-Gru and Hell in DMC3 are more interesting and varied than the Qliphoth of DMC5. The Temen-Ni-Gru feels like a multidimensional demonic tower, with its waterfalls, strange domains and hovercarts over lava pits that are far larger than the outskirts of the tower (bigger on the inside, as if each section were its own demonic realm). And the depiction of Hell looking quite holy, like a satire of Heaven that defies the laws of physics is just amazing. The Qliphoth could have been much more. As a demonic tree, it could have housed multiple universes or realms representing each boss, given that its implied throughout the series that Hell is multiversal or multidimensional. So many creative domains could have been designed, but as mentioned in the video, it either has a grey/black wood texture with red human blood globs everywhere, or has an insect hive look, save for the prelude to King Cerb where it is icy and looks cool. DMC5 does serve to be a great character study on Vergil through V, highlighting his compassion, regret, trauma and kindness at times, but also his duplicitous and manipulative side, as well as a tragic self-loathing. As the video said, Vs weakness highlights the fact that V isnt simply Vergils human side. V is everything Vergil hates about himself, and every quality he sees as a weakness. For example, his desire to rely on others (to be loved and protected), his desire for family, his interests outside of his quest for power (poetry and classical music). Urizen is there to signify that Vergils quest for power means nothing without his humanity, as unlike V, Urizen hardly has a personality. It is interesting that both V and Urizen hold resentment and rivalry towards Dante, seemingly suggesting that Vergil sees this as both a strength and a weakness; A strength because Dante serves as fuel for his pursuit of power, and a weakness as Dante has previously proven to be Vergils equal and sometimes superior. It could also be a weakness as Vergil sees any family ties as a weakness, which is ironic considering his quest for power is rooted in love for his mother and admiration of his father.
"Even with his new power he's not quite able to put Urizen down." Eh, I feel like that's more unwilling hesitation from knowing what Urizen is. Dante's strong enough to *still beat the immensely powered up Urizen later in round 3,* he quite handily schools Urizen in Round 2. Hell, he does so almost as hard as Urizen beat him in Round 1 weeks prior. That's just something of a personal nitpick in the way you said that is all. Also, gotta love that in the midst of saying that it's a shame Nero doesn't have his busters or his Devil Bringer, you show a DMC5 clip of Nero, in DT, bustering an enemy.
no, saying " he's not quite able to put Urizen down" is correct, while dante certainly *would* have won the fight if it had continued, he wasn't strong enough to prevent urizen from escaping. i'm honestly not sure if dante was really going to kill urizen/vergil, i mean, i know he meant to, but in the moment of truth, would he have been *able* to?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Don't take my fairly snappy response as a good sign that commenting on years' old things is the usual thing to do. And to answer, not really, I stand by my original point. Dante schools Urizen in Round 2. The only reason he doesn't stop Urizen from escaping is because he hesitates from the tree doing more of its devil shit. Being distracted from stopping Urizen and being _unable_ to stop him are very different. And in the third round, after he beats a far stronger Urizen, yes, he appears to be completely willing to kill him. Remember, as much as he hated doing it, Dante made the vow to stop Vergil by any means necessary (up to and including killing him) even so far back as DMC3. He never wants to, but he's willing to if its necessary, and it was. He didn't even want Vergil to come back, given that he was trying to stop V, and at the end of the game the only reason they don't (more than likely) kill each other in a draw is because Nero steps in. Dante, since practically his inception, has always known that stopping Vergil may mean killing him, and he's always vowed to stop him.
What a banger of a series. Been with it since the PS2 days, love it to this day. Great to watch someone examine the series from a (at least at first) newcomer's perspective and especially great to see them enjoy it! Personally I'm not quite as in love with DMC5 as most in the fandom (mostly because I'd prefer the enemies to be more aggressive in general and because I'd prefer a slightly higher game speed), but I can absolutely understand your ranking. Good stuff!
On the ps 5 there is a mode where you get way more enemies called legendary dark knight mode and there is also turbo mode where the game plays 1.2 times faster
As someone whose first DMC game was DMC 5, playing as V in my first playthrough was my favorite part. His skill floor is really low, and enemies have so little health on the easiest difficulty that you don't notice how low his damage is. Skip ahead a year and 200 hours of play time, and I don't think I've played V at all since getting all the collectables
Its a great send off to this massive project. I found your channel for Devil May Cry reviews. Now I'm staying for your awesome review style and writing. I can't wait to see what you review next and watch your channel grow. Rock on, man. 🤘😎🤘
Genuinely one of my most anticipated videos of the year. Its been awesome watching your journey and I dont plan on leaving just because the DMC saga is over. Excited to see what your future plans are!
Now if only we could get a DMC 2 for the reboot. I loved it. This coming from a fan of the series since the first game DMC5 was also absolutely amazing.
i´d like to see you do a retrospective of the soulsborne series just as you did with DMC. either by starting from Demon´s Souls or Dark Souls 1. It´d be interesting
Now that you did this, time to do on the game that Actually started this Franchise Combat mechanics, Onimusha. For those who are not aware, Devil May Cry Air Combo that every one loves was created because of a bug on Onimusha Warlords that allowed the monsters to be kept in air the dev loved, and decided to bring this mechanic as a core idea on Devil May Cry.
I have a head canon that the brothers and Nero use real life styles of Sword arts based on the weapons they use and it also reflects somewhat on the boss fights. Dante = Liechtenauer or German Fencing, this style is aggressive, attacks are both used for offense and defense, unusual from other Longsword styles, Liechtenauer uses mostly Slashes and Cuts, its main Philosophy is Momentum (Before) is king if you lose the momentum to the enemy you would lose so take it quickly and avoid reacting (After) *Interesting note: it was supposedly a secret style passed down by its founder Johannes Liechtenauer so instead of the typical of leaving his students notes from his lectures he instead gave them a Poem called the Zettel which contains hints on his teachings. (Kind of fitting Dante studies a style that he can turn to a Rock Song if he likes, not to mention Liechtenauer has some attacks that looks like the practioner is styling on the enemy fencer some of which are intentional, a perfect example of this is a mover where the attacker presses the Pummel of the sword on the hands of the enemy as he slashes upwards while you slash downwards towards his arm or torso.) Vergil = Yagyu Shinkagen Ryu, this style is the inverse of most Kenjutsu styles, instead teaching Caution, Quickness and footwork instead of aggression, the School focuses as well on the environment and to use it in fights and to adapt to the weapons of the enemy as much as you study the art of the school. *interesting note: the School was founded by a Buddist Monk named Kamiizumi Nobutsuna. (Kind of ironic the power hungry, socially darwinistic book worm studies and practices the style of steotypically Pacifistic Monks) Nero = Polish Style Saber combat, its likely that the Red Queen is just a stylised Anime Saber based on how it was used in 4, Polish saber uses mostly Cuts and Leans even more so than most saber styles, its aggression was noted as a "Hellish Cut" by German Masters and was famously used by the Winged Hussars which as the name suggests had wings on their sadles to intimidate enemies. (Also its noted in the web as not protecting the hands much lol) *interesting note: this style is mostly lost due tonthe turbulent history of Poland, much of it is reconstructed using other arts like German, Turkish, Turkic/Steppe and Hungarian styles.
@@machi8976 actually people in the Victorian era used Canes for self-defense they even have cane swords which are the inspiration for bloodborn's weapons.
I was hoping to get your thoughts on the Dante boss fight in this game, it's my personal favorite fight in the series, although the Vergil fight in DMC5 is an incredibly close second.
So I did something I don’t normally do. I subscribed. Just watched every DMC video from start to finish and as a lifelong fan I’ve gotta say, bravo. GREAT content. To the extent I hope your channel grows and regardless of what game you cover I can tell it’s gonna be top notch content. You clearly played, enjoyed and appreciated the franchise for what it is. If you happen to be a final fantasy fan like me I’m curious for 16 as that is definitely gonna have similar DMC vibes and I can’t wait. Keep at it!
Donguri just produced another dmc 4 video. Not surprising after all these years he still came back to play it. Has some great enemies and bosses, and Dante's high-level mechanics which aren't in dmc 5 are really rewarding.
Tips from a V ?main?: the way I enjoyed V is by not staying away but getting literally in their faces. It helps the accuracy of Shadow, and busting the SS Air taunt right in front of enemies and clearing with Royal Fork. Do not be scared being close because the famliar's mobility to dodge is very responsive and combined with enemy step you are pretty safe. (The Cane parry is fun but not recommended if you don't plan to play DMC for 100+ hours or BP 101 floors)
I've been using your reviews as a sort of nice epilogue to my own journey through the series, but I skipped 2, cos I can't be arsed with that, loved all of your videos and couldn't agree more with your ranking. Would personally put dmc1 above the reboot but before 4 but I played it a long time ago (replayed it recently) so maybe my goggles are slightly tinted. I'm surprised people thought 3 had the better story, I think it's probably because of how much of an impact the ending has when you realise it's a prequel to 1 when under the impression it took place afterwards.
DMC5 is the first DMC game I can enjoy without saying "ok this is good BUT I would have done X differently." DMC1, it should have just been a Metroidvania or a Resident Evil map, no need for the mission breaks. DMC3, Cerberus should have been less frustrating and Gigapede should have been less shit. DMC4, it should have been finished. DMC2, it should have just fucked off and let Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne be canon instead. But DMC5? I can't think of anything I really would have changed. Maybe the hit detection on Nero's Streak, but that's pretty small potatoes. It's just that good
For the v gameplay I actually enjoyed it the best way to build up style man is actually you have to lowered everyone of the enemies then you show off your combo in execution of the enemies it's such a cool mechanic but the only problem with v is story wise his familiars not having phantom the spider
while i love lady and trish as characters they are woefully outclassed in strength by dante nero and vergil mainly because dante in the first game beat someone who can causally create a universe and in his second game no matter how bad it showed him basically playing with someone on mundus’ level and trish and lady aren’t anywhere near that i wish they could but the amount of power boosting this game would have to do especially for lady who is just a normal human it would be ridiculous also lady isn’t a ranged fighter in dmc4 se she’s a character who’s multi range mid close and long depending on your skill level she can be a very fun character
I think the obvious counter-argument is that V is one of the main action protagonists and he is also considerable weaker, even choosing to run away from fights Nero and Dante run head-first into. It's not really a question of power, it's how well you write the story and design the game on a utilitarian level. But with 3 protagonists the game was already getting full and the budget wasn't unlimited. I also think V is just the beginning of his type of integration, I hope to see it done better in the future. Can a weaker character work in an action game? Depends on how well you write it. Capcom might not be up to the task (capcom isn't exactly the strongest in terms of nuanced writing) but I think they proposed potential here by putting so much intention into how they created V.
Personal opinion but I love playing V more than anyone else. All the explosions, swords, lightning and laser beams put a child like glee into my heart. Especially when he’s just a big nerd trying to look cool. Also has my favorite theme song.
thanks for all of the DMC content and taking the time to do this. Watched all the vids, (even the DMC2 and reboot ones). I was pretty turned off by DMC 4 it being the only dmc game I bought and never got through a single playthrough resulting in me skipping 5 altogether. Looking forward to giving 5 a shot based on this video and info provided, thanks again.
Okay so basically there are two guys henry emily and william afton they start a family pizza restaurant together called fredbear's family diner, one day william locks henry's daughter charlie out of the restaurant and murders her outside, as seen in the fnaf 2 save him minigame and the security puppet minigame. charlie's soul goes on to possess the puppet animatronic. then in 1983 william's youngest son dies in hospital after being bitten by the fredbear animatronic as seen in fnaf 4, which causes fredbear's to close and the springlock suits to be decommissioned. the bite victim's soul goes on to possess the fredbear suit due to the suffering he sustained from the suit (this is explained in more detail in the fazbear frights epilogues). freddy fazbear's pizza is then opened. in 1985 william afton kills 5 more kids in a freddy's, and their souls go on to possess chica, bonnie, freddy, foxy, and golden freddy/fredbear (which now has 2 souls possessing it, directly paralleling the stitchwraith from the book series). that restaurant closes down but freddy's gets rebranded and has a grand reopening in 1987 as we see in fnaf 2. meanwhile, william opens circus baby's pizza world, featuring kid killing animatronics, however his daughter elizabeth gets killed by one of the animatronics (baby) and goes on to possess her. william sends his oldest son, michael, to go free her from the facility, as seen in sister location. back to freddy's - the fnaf 2 location stays open until the bite of 87, in which it's implied nightguard jeremy fitzgerald gets his frontal lobe bitten off by one of the animatronics. then fnaf 1 happens in a location that exists in 1993, not much lore there. after the 1993 location gets closed, william gets springlocked in the spring bonnie suit inside the abandoned building, becoming springtrap. Back to Baby in SL. Michael, after a week of working there gets lured to the scooping room by Baby in order to get his insides become outsides so that all the Funtime animatronics (now fused into Ennard) can use his body as a fleshsuit to escape the facility. Over time the suit starts to get rotten and more and more decayed. Michael body now turns purple and draws more attention (Note: there are now two purple guys, Miachel Afton, who is litterally purple due to decay in his fleshsuit, and William Afton, who isn't litterally pruple but the purple colour signifies him hiding in the shadow.) and the Funtime animatronics now as Ennard have to abandon ship in search of a new body. Somewhere down the line Baby tries to gain full control of the Ennard body and gets kicked out of Ennard, now becoming Scrap Baby and Ennard becoming Molten Freddy, both seen in Pizzeria Simulator and UCN. Speaking of…this brings us to Pizza Simulator, where our good friend Henry creates a decoy pizzeria intended to lure in all the loose ends which are: William Afton as scraptrap, Molten Freddy as the funtime animatronics, Scrap Baby as William's daughter and Henry's daughter, Elizabeth who posseses the puppet and gets lured in by her father by the animatronic Lefty. Before we get to the ending of pizza sim lets go over some key lore drops hidden in the game. When you buy Candy Cadet he has a chance of telling you 1 of 3 stories a day. All 3 stories follow the same pattern. 5 things becoming 1 thing. (5 keys melted into 1 key, 5 dead kids tied together and 5 dead cats sown together into 1.) This could be reffering to the funtime animatronics together becoming Ennard. On to the 2nd mingame: Secutity Puppet. When playing this minigame for the 3rd time we can see Henry daughter, Elizabeth locked out of the Pizzaria where she gets murdered by Afton, becoming his 1st victim. Next we see the puppet slowly crawling towards her dead body hugging her, and Elizabeth posesses her. When brightening up that same image we can see purple tire tracks from William when he fled the scene. And now for out 3rd minigame: Midnight Motorist. This game in labeled 'later that night' in the game files so we can assume we are playing as Afton in this minigame. When on the 3rd lap, we can see a crack in the road, in we go down it, we end up on a road leading to Jr's a bar/restaurant (presumably the fnaf 1 or 2 location or freddy's family diner) which Will isn't allowed into. The 2nd place we can go to is a house. The afton house. When will sees that his youngest son escapes thru the window to the freddy's restaurant he gets very angry. This most likeley causes William to create the sound illusion discs to scare his child and creating the nightmare animatronics in his mind to make him afraid of the freddy's restaurant. The sound illusion discs are also uses in fnaf 3 to create the phantom animatronics in the players mind. Thats why they also never kill the player in fnaf 3. This brings us to our 3rd and final minigame: Fruity maze. With help from the books and this minigame we know that the child who posseses Chica in fnaf 1 is the girl in Fruity Maze named Susie. This is all this minigame really tells us. Now the Pizza sim Ending. On the 5th night we hear Elizabeth, Henry's daughter talking but is interupted by her father. Henry reveals the pizzeria was a decoy, to lure in and capture all the loose ends and finnaly putting a stop to Afton (He never really dies i'll get to that later) . Everyone dies in the fire and the souls are finally put to rest. Onto UCN. In UCN we play as William Afton in purgatory, tormented again and again by his own creations. Thru the game we learn many things, such as that Chica was the 1st child to be killed and stuffed and possibly the first animatronic to be given life by the puppet. We also learn about 'the one you should not have killed'. This is presumably talking about the child that posseses golden freddy but as mentioned earlier, golden freddy could have mulitple souls inside of it. This brings us to fnaf vr: help wanted. The point here is that William Afton's soul is possesing the game becoming Glitchtrap (I will get into some theories about how this could've happened later). Through the game he posseses a game tester named Vannessa or Vanny (Vannessa+Bunny) which will most likeley be the main antagonist in fnaf security breach. William uses Vanny to continue to kill kids, even though his body is still in purgatory. We will probably get more information on her when security breach is released. Now onto how Afton's soul go tinto the game's come and possesed Vannessa. In the fazbear frights book series we read about two children stuck in the stickraith's body. One of the kids is said to be killed by Afton. He tells us how he is keeping him alive, to be forever tormented. In that same story we read about 'the patient in room 1280'. It is about a man in a hospital, burned beond recognition but somehow still alive. That is obviously William Afton. When the boy finnally decides to let Afton die, his last request is to be wheeled into an old, abandon Freddy's location. The hospital staff do so not really knowing why but looking at the state of Will here he is probably insane to some measures. When he is wheeled into the Freddy's location his body literally explodes. Now some parts of his soul go to purgatory/UCN, and other parts posses the computer parts, later to be scanned and reused to create the vr title. That is most likeley how he posseses the game but we can't really know for sure
Saying that the Reboot had the best non-combat segments in the series isn't a controversial take. The level design and platforming sections in that game were fantastic.
I mean I love the game, but we can’t deny the fact that being a modern game, the developers just thought the level design is not important anymore. So the game is literally a series of corridors. Up until DMC4 the level design was very important, especially in 1 and 3 because it they were built like a Resident Evil-lite game. With a castle to explore and some lite puzzles to solve.
Strangely V was my favorite to play, followed closely by Dante. My opinion may be different since I’m new to the DMC series, but I’m not sure. Edit: I played through the Virgil story. He surpasses all of them by a long shot
V is the best character to me. He's actually almost as complex as Dante but in a different way. The timing of attacks and placement of your familiars is extremely important.
@@EbonMaster It's a different type of complexity. Less about cancels and switching weapons and styles and more about placement and playing three characters simultaneously. Kinda like those players who are really good at making Vergil's doppelganger do it's own thing except you have two and their movesets are completely different. Playing really well as V is extremely difficult because you can pay a heavy price for any wrong decision you make.
@@tabagathedestroyer9654 I would consider that depth and nuance in spacing and positioning but not complexity. Dante is more complex because of how many more parts of the machine are moving and need to be managed between weapons, styles, meters, etc.. V is more punishing, sure, more spacing dependent, sure, but more complex? Nah.
@@EbonMaster you really only move one part at a time with Dante. With V you're moving 3 at once. V takes better planning to manage. Most people say V is bad because they can't figure out how to play him to the fullest of his ability.
@@tabagathedestroyer9654 Even if you dont control multiple at once you manage far more things, swapping rapidly between them and having to keep more options in mind for each next move. I'm not saying V is bad (I dont like playing him much but thats not the point) I'm simply saying that Dante has more complexity.
32:50 With regards to your camera gripes, turning off the cinematic camera I believe it's called and putting your camera distance to around 7 I found perfectly emulates DMC4's camera, with the advantages that brings.
As the first game i really played in the series, the first time i played as dante was so cool cuz it went from "oh great game" to "dante is the coolest guy in fiction"
Also, on DMC5, to make the camera work similar to 4, turn camera follow off, zoom in all the way, and turn off "camera turns to new interesting thing on screen mechanic" then a slight down tilt on right stick and you're focused on one enemy in a corner, enemies can't hit you off screen. Works great.
How does the reboot stack up against the classic series and DMC5? New video here:
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You forgot Nero's real motivation throughout the game: being called a dead-weight a month prior.
i mean its totally like Nero to be motivated by an insult like that
Funny, but he also lost his arm and there is that tree, you know, that killed a lot of people and is breeding demons like rabbits.
@@evgenyomegin Having just finished the game... I think it's absolutely hilarious how much the giant tree is actually glossed over at the start. It becomes a setpiece much later on but for the most part its there but... Who gives a shit. Deadweight and losing my arm. Those were my motivation... Until I started hearing some of the songs. Now I have different motivation.
@@baddus because it's a regular thing in DMC world? Think about this, Nero is a devil hunter, like Dante, and what he does best is slaying demons and taking contracts. First off, he loses his arm, with the Yamato that Dante left him as a memento of his brother, that wouldnt be ever torn away by some lesser demons. Then, Dante takes a contract on Urizen and fails. Who would be the last hope to save Red Grave and the world if not him? V even states that Nero is their last chance to defeat Urizen. I think it's enough motivation to fight the demons. Like a witcher who fights dangerous monsters that kill people, he fights demons. I see no lack of motivation here, it's obvious. People just concentrate too much attention at the fact that Dante mocks Nero and Nero mocks Dante when the time is right not paying attention to full list of events. Like, if Dante didn't call Nero a dead weight, would he just sit still and watch people die because he is not motivated? Absurd.
@@evgenyomegin mate, Nero is literally salty on this whole deadweight thing. He even bitchslapped Dante just to call him deadweight for crying out loud.
JK. We all know Nero is a good guy. He doesnt need any motivation to help and save those people in that city.
Missed opportunity to release this video 11 years after your DMC4 video.
he was waiting for Vergil as a playable character lol
and have a video that betrays everything the others were about halfway through it
But still an alright video regardless
cheatsykoopa98 I’m confused lmao, is it because Vergil and Dante make up ?
@@o.g.6605 They are referring to the reboot between 4 and 5
you can't use this as an excuse not to see your mother and me anymore please son it's been two years
Just like when Nero activates his Devil Trigger for the second time. FUCK YOU!
@Hyveminds Mom maybe revert to the comment above? 👀
@@aHumanBeing97 Cringe
@@Gamma0_0 lmao
The only bad enemy is the fire bat thingies. They only appear twice so I can never actually figure out their patterns. The fury is fine too as long as I'm ready for them. But those damn bats.
I love how when Nero gets his true dt, he talks about credo and when he gets his devil trigger he gets angel wings that look and represent credo’s sacrifice
Also angelic wings which it's fits him cause he fights for his family and his loved ones and for the good.. Dante is just loves trolling around while Vergil is just hungry for power and plus Nero is a grandson of Sparda and specially Sparda also fought for his family and for his loved ones
@@Omega-jg4oq when you say it that way, it really feels like Nero brought it all full circle. Sparda did everything he could to protect his family. Due to the events that cause the brothers to separate, both ended up with issues and not a lot of straightforward brotherly love, but instead a rivalry. Nero, who despite his upbringing had a good sense of family, as well as, if I remember correctly, expecting to be a father if I remember that phone call prior to him gaining his DT, achieved what Sparda wanted his sons to learn, and protect his family. Kinda funny he seems like the most powerful DT of the Sparda bloodline so far
Also Nero has hair on his dt because he has more human blood. Dante and Vergil’s DT doesn’t have hair
@@ashedashes dante has hair in dmc2 but we don't talk about that game
@@schemar17 yep we dont talk about it
V isn't for everyone. I personally think he's really fun, others think otherwise, but most of us can agree that he's very "love everything about him," or, "hate his missions with a passion."
@@Amatt0 I wouldn't necessarily say that he's lacking, more that he's lacking _in comparison_
@@Amatt0 We play Bloody Palace with V _very_ differently.
The way I look at V is more “Style over substance” when every other character is “Style and substance”.
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 You aren't wrong, but "style over substance," comes across as though it's inherently a bad thing. I'd describe it more as, "what he lacks in variety, he makes up for in style."
@@arkhamjamesv yeah I’m aware that what I said is a tad more critically that what I actually think. I’ve seen some really cool stuff done with V. I’ve just seen insane things done with Dante too.
I appreciate the brief love of the music! \m/ \m/
YOO!
The man himself
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The release of DMC5 had retrospectively made DmC better received and the fandom started to appreciate its gameplay because we got the characters and storyline we liked back. DMC 5 is so good it dissolves hate.
Honestly, yeah. I'll be fair, I still don't like DmC:DmC (for a laundry list of reasons), but I don't really mind that people like it. It DOES have some genuinely good ideas in it (it's just when it comes to that, alot of the time it's mostly wasted potential or questionably implemented), and at this point, while i'd love a DMC6 (or maybe a spin-off featuring Lady, Trish, and Lucia), I wouldn't mind if the DmC fans got their sequel.
That said, I still think DMC1 is a better game over the reboot (personal reasons, mostly, but yeah...)
This is literally what happened with me hahahaha
Donte
Honestly, it most likely has to do with the Definitive Edition of DmC. Which made a mediocre game into a solid one.
Well, yes. That it's now a weird side-path rather than "The Future Of The FranchiseTM take it or leave it" has obviously made people hate it less, if only because it no longer directly threatens something we love. Fact is, it was always just a pretty okay game at worst, the problem was that if it had succeeded at any point, even in its definitive edition, this game wouldn't exist.
I love the facial animations, many modern games have dull expressions and this game keeps the characters alive.
V was a surprise for me. If you know what you are doing you can do all crazy things with SSS rank, but you need to coordinate your minions and land combos with each one which can be challenging when you only worry to use one button normally.
For real face animations are so good, I could watch a whole movie in this engine, with this design and animation style
All thanks to the re engine.
No you don't. You can just spam and get SSS. V is the easiest to style with.
DMC 3 is overall my favorite in the series, but DMC5 is by far the one I played the most, glad you enjoyed it!
My only problem with dmc 3, as mentioned in the video, are some of the enemies are just fucking horrendouse on higher difficulties. Mainly the archers. Dmc v had some tough ones and the protoangelos had way to much health when DT popped but I never felt like a level was ruined by them.
Yep. More characters to choose help DMC5. If only we could get Trish and Lady too.
DMC3 Is my Fave game of all time. Ever play Onimusha series?
Same
@@joemoe650 In my opinion DMD was never meant to be fun, it's just straight-up challenge yourself and suffer by own demand to get that feeling of extreme success at the end and the fun is just a side bonus. Or if you're really good then you can have a lot of fun
It's one of the best Capcom games ever, and no one can change my mind.
I initially thought Nero's character was weak, but in this game he was amazing. I have no problem with him carrying on the franchise, as long as Dante and Vergil continue being a big part of it.
dante and vergil almost definitely wont be a big part of it, capcom already called dmc5 the end of the sons of sparda saga
@@nametagmc7935 Its now gonna be the grandchild of sparda saga
@AM Lightspeedy I hope capcom thinks of adding workshop support for dmc6
@amlightspeedy3090they can pull a gta and have Dante and Vergil in hell and binging back topside with Nero… maybe Dante has an illigitamate child somewhere lol
No way dmc6 will be without Dante as playable Charakter @@nametagmc7935
One thing to note with Royal Guard. Perfect guarding doesn't just preserve your DT, it generates DT. So if you git gud at parrying, you can have tons of DT gauge to use. Similarly, using a Trickster dash to go through an active attack will also generate a smaller amount of DT.
Hanji-san!
For the enemy design, I felt they took the good enemies from every game and mashed them together into one game. And it worked so well.
Honestly, I think the major thing missing from V's gameplay is more complexity. I'd like to see him, or at least his gameplay, return in a sequel but more fleshed out. With Dante and Nero it feels like I always have more to learn and get better at, but with V I feel like I hit to skill ceiling really fast.
yeah I think a big problem with V that could have made him better is adding more summons to swap between. Dante can change up his styles and weapons and Nero can change up his buster arms and gets more abilities when you beat the game. Meanwhile V never gains any new kinds of powers or anything really. Sure yeah the summons are based on DMC1 bosses so I'm not sure how to do it lore wise but adding more summons or at least *something* to mix up his gameplay more would probably help him feel less boring to play after the first runthrough
@@BlazeMakesGames maybe something like new forms for them?
@@denkerbosu3551 if devil trigger didn't put them on auto pilot, but expanded their moveset much like devil trigger increases the power of some of Dante's moves, it could be interesting.
I always thought that Nightmare promotion just wasn't fleshed out enough.
I think the fact that he has 3 summons makes it harder to flesh him out.
If they took Vs stuff and mixed it with Vergil’s Doppleganger then for DMC6 that new devil hunter could be two characters that you juggle enemies between. Kind of like Astral Chain but you have more direct control over the second character.
For real V needed to be more fleshed out. I love V and found him to be by far the easiest to use making the game be on easy mode. Dante could be seen as hard while Nero is normal. But adding new moves would have been nice for his devil trigger.
Hyve Minds character growth throughout all dmc games is the true character development in any game out there
If I may quote another white haired anime boy;
“IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS”
Akihiko after he watched this video: Did you see that Shinji!?
@@grandbean9031 of course he did, it has guns in it.
hehehe good reference kid
Sry I don’t get it
I want a game where Vergil is the main character and Dante is the unlockable 😂
Vergil never got to be the main protagonist. There are still some ideas that can be explored. Where is Sparda? What dmc's Heaven look like? What happened to the "god of evil" mundus defeated in the lore?
@@MrH103 I'm actually very interested in how did the Yamato land in the hands of the order of the sword, who is Nero's mother and many more
@@tarekalsalloum3811 They might have already been answered if the game wasn't rushed. It's shame how dmc 4 turned out. It still way better than dmc 2, but still the 2nd worst game in the franchise for me. Just had to run out of steam halfway through.
@@MrH103 Maybe someday we'll get the answers we sorely desire.
there was an apsence in capcom's presence in this year's game awards, maybe they're cooking up something cool
@@MrH103 Honestly all the dmc games would work if you played from vergils perspective. The protagonists are interchangable
I agree with your criticisms on the level variety, it was something that I missed from other games, even with their gimmicks.
Loved the series man!
Lots of variety on the streets brother, come race me any time.
Bad ass game bruv
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Just stumbled upon these reviews and had a blast watching them all. Im sad this review series is over!! Great work!!
Thanks, and I'm glad you enjoyed them! Stay tuned, the next video is coming in a week or two and may or may not involve devil may cry...
One criticism I’ll add about DMCV. The lack of unlockables really stings for me.
DMC3 rewarded you for going up the difficulty ladder with more costumes to play with.
Even with the “Special Edition” of 5 they didn’t add any costumes whatsoever. All costumes you can get are just recolours of the base outfits.
And worse, some are locked behind a paywall
Yeah as far as an actual game it's outstanding, but as far as collectables there is almost nothing. I'm not a big collectable person most the time anyways but even I thought it was an odd change
and the only unlockable that we get is infinite devil trigger that lets be honest most people wont use cuz, it to much to bother unlocking for some people, and something that makes the game to easy for the rest. So yeah i want dmc 1 and 2 costume capcom >:(
@@dralakba-dusk31 DMC3 is the only game that gives you all of Dante’s costumes.
@@aultra-magawhostandsagains7974 no it doesn't, Dmc2 costume is not in dmc3 ;_;
Me everytime he insulted dmc 2: Stop stop, he’s already dead...
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>Dont Worry
No no. That shit needs to be put in place more!
He finally did it
I binge watched this DMC series and trust me, You're reviews are really really great. I just love how you present your take on each subject. Thank you for this series
Cavalier is actually in response to everyone requesting that they make a motorcycle weapon based on the dmc3 cutscene where is Dante uses Lady's rocket powered motorcycle as a weapon
Opening with Bloody Stream right when I start Jojo Part 2? Ok Universe, I get it
@Ben The Goose Jojo is one of guys who's name and surname start with "Jo". To answer your second question - Dio.
What a sick beat.
Nero: Sword that works like a motorcycle
Dante: Motorcycle that works like a sword
Noticed you didn't talk about Nero's Buster Knuckle where you can augment attacks by pushing Buster to punch people in the face while using Red Queen, and I kind of wanted to hear your take on it. The way it affects knockback is super fun to use in combos and really diversified my second playthrough from my first. I love using it to punch people in the face while Nero charges Showdown, or as a way to keep a juggle going during an air taunt.
This is super true. The first "technique"
I learnt with Nero was infinitely chaining the Calibur attack by using buster punch to cancel the attack knockback and enemy step to reset myself. It was a moment of awakening for me after playing the game in a very basic manner the first time
"DMC 5's levels could've used a little bit more variety." SOMEONE didn't find the skatepark in Mission 15😏
so? his point still stands
@@amarson2322 It's a joke bro.
@@haydenblazier6751 he wants the stages to be more platforming
@@nea9009 Yeah, I know. I understand where Hyve Minds is coming from. I was just pointing out that the comment OP made was a joke. I wasn't trying to be rude or anything (sorry if it came across that way), but it just bums me out that people seem to have difficulty distinguishing when a joke is made nowadays.
@@haydenblazier6751 delivery on written text doesn't help I think
I actually always interpreted Nero's moves having less flashiness and effects to them as being a result of having his Devil Bringer yeeted, and with it the vast majority of his demonic power. Same with him struggling to lift enemies at first. Gotta remember that technically speaking up until the end of the game Nero's playing life on Hard Mode due to being nerfed by a loss of demonic power, after all. He only starts pulling out the superhuman strength moves again after he gets his Devil Trigger.
Him being able to as much as he did with that much power lost is astounding
That or he uses the Polish style of Saber combat, Polish style relys on Cuts and Leans which explains why Nero always leans with every strike.
Coincidentally the style is famously used by the Winged Hussars, was called by German Masters as a "Hellish Cut" and weirdest of all its said by people on the web its as if the practitioners aren't guarding their hands (Should have had that advice sooner huh Nero)
Unfortunately Polish style is mostly a lost art of combat, thanks to the ups and downs of Polish history its mostly gone, now modern practioners instead reconstruct it using other styles based on how near they are like German, Turkic/Steppe, Turkish and Hungarian.
Hey man, subbed for the DMC review series, but I'm on board for whatever else you've got lined up, I dig your style and respect the way you convey your opinions. Keep at it, man :)
They should've made V play more with magic than just the familiars, so he would've made sense for him to just fall back while his familiars grab the enemy's attention.
For me, playing as V completely ruined the game for me.
WE DID IT BOYS
This video series was a lot of fun, man. Great job, excited to see which games you'll tackle afterwards.
i like how dmc5's obvious reveal is still just as hype even though i knew who was who
I take major umbrage with your reckless and malicious omission of the sex scene between Nero and Gilgamesh
I take umbrage that I've been waiting out here in this gorgeous Nissan Altima with nary a soul to race me.
@@theodorexenophon7612 what kind of psychopath races in an Altima?
@@JDayMain the kind that wins, brother 🤟🏻
@@theodorexenophon7612 why are you so obsessed with racing people you don't even know? Goofy as fuck my guy
@@0kaspars you either understand or you don't partner, that's just the way of the road...
DMC 3 is the one that got me into the series but dmc 5 is ultimately my favorite for me as well
Honestly, I paid the extra to try Vergil, and he is easily my favorite in terms of gameplay.
Just finished all the games besides 2 just a few weeks ago. DMC5 and DMC3 are by far my fav
Only real gamers play 2
@@jotita9350 did u?
@@DoomKnight13 I did. For 2 levels until I got bored.
@@hammskie05 ah ok
@@DoomKnight13 im not a real gamer
Can't believe it's been a year and a half. Always wanted to know someone like u who played DmC first experience with the series, I'm very happy that u did this, I really enjoyed ur videos, always clicked as soon as u popped up. And as a long time DMC fan myself I approve of ur feelings towards these game haha, jk.
Glad u had a fun time
DMC reviews are over huh...
TIME FOR BAYONETTA BAYBEE!
Nooo
Neir Series?
Love the inclusion of Bloody Stream as the intro and outro to this video
DMC 5 has become one of my favorite games of all time. I played through the DMC series last summer and discovered your channel looking for reviews, and yours were and are great. I'll be looking forward to what you do with the channel in the future!
_Vergil is like Vegeta, striving to defeat his rival, but fails_
It feels great to see this series finally finished after following it from the very start. I couldn't agree more on your views on this one, except that DMC3 is still a little better plotwise for me.
Even if the DMC content stops I'm still interested to see what other game series you could bring a fresh perspective to!
Love you and hope you're having a great day!
The biggest issue with DmC was the new Dante, the teenager who tells people to kill themselves online is not the Dante we loved
If only "the Dante we loved" fanbase was a little bigger. DmC still wound up selling more than DMC 5 🤷♂
@@travistotle And DMC 2 sold more than DMC 1, which in turn hurt the sales of DMC 3, but does that mean DMC 2 was the best?
@@liviekumori Nah, that's not true. DMC 2 sold less than DMC 1. Although looking at the numbers again, it looks like they counted the figures from the DmC Definitive Edition in the total DmC sales compared to DMC 5, where they didn't actually count the DMC 5 Special Edition figures. That's weird.
I think everything you said was perfectly fair. I will say that i personally prefer DMC1 over the reboot as i love the gothic castle design, and love Mundus being an evil allegory for god. Plus, Air Raid and Vortex to me have never been better since DMC1. As for my top it'll have to be DMC3 on Switch with DMC5 only just behind it in second place.
The reason i say this as well is that the only issue i had from DMC3 was style switching and the Arkham fight, as most annoying enemies like the angels and the Dullahan can be dealt with by switching to quicksilver and folding them. The Arkham fight, however, is just abysmal. On top of that, the story imo is better in 3, but DMC5s is also good.
As for why DMC5 comes up short for me at least. I feel as though DMC3 Switch has proven that Dante doesnt need to be limited to only 4 core styles. Gimmick styles like Doppelganger and Quicksilver can be easily switched to with a double tap of a style button, yet DMC5 removes Dantes Doppelganger and Time manipulation. And while I absolutely LOVE Sin DT and the Quadruple S technique that comes with it, and see Sin DT as the single greatest form in any series ever, i feel like it only almost makes up for Dantes missing powers that he should have.
As for level design, I just think Temen-Ni-Gru and Hell in DMC3 are more interesting and varied than the Qliphoth of DMC5. The Temen-Ni-Gru feels like a multidimensional demonic tower, with its waterfalls, strange domains and hovercarts over lava pits that are far larger than the outskirts of the tower (bigger on the inside, as if each section were its own demonic realm). And the depiction of Hell looking quite holy, like a satire of Heaven that defies the laws of physics is just amazing.
The Qliphoth could have been much more. As a demonic tree, it could have housed multiple universes or realms representing each boss, given that its implied throughout the series that Hell is multiversal or multidimensional. So many creative domains could have been designed, but as mentioned in the video, it either has a grey/black wood texture with red human blood globs everywhere, or has an insect hive look, save for the prelude to King Cerb where it is icy and looks cool.
DMC5 does serve to be a great character study on Vergil through V, highlighting his compassion, regret, trauma and kindness at times, but also his duplicitous and manipulative side, as well as a tragic self-loathing. As the video said, Vs weakness highlights the fact that V isnt simply Vergils human side. V is everything Vergil hates about himself, and every quality he sees as a weakness. For example, his desire to rely on others (to be loved and protected), his desire for family, his interests outside of his quest for power (poetry and classical music).
Urizen is there to signify that Vergils quest for power means nothing without his humanity, as unlike V, Urizen hardly has a personality. It is interesting that both V and Urizen hold resentment and rivalry towards Dante, seemingly suggesting that Vergil sees this as both a strength and a weakness; A strength because Dante serves as fuel for his pursuit of power, and a weakness as Dante has previously proven to be Vergils equal and sometimes superior. It could also be a weakness as Vergil sees any family ties as a weakness, which is ironic considering his quest for power is rooted in love for his mother and admiration of his father.
Hyve Minds: [takes a year and a half to play through the entire franchise]
Me after finishing the play through in a week: where's your MOTIVATION????
Excellent series! Fascinating to see you go on a journey of discovery with such a hallowed franchise. Great work fella.
"Even with his new power he's not quite able to put Urizen down."
Eh, I feel like that's more unwilling hesitation from knowing what Urizen is. Dante's strong enough to *still beat the immensely powered up Urizen later in round 3,* he quite handily schools Urizen in Round 2. Hell, he does so almost as hard as Urizen beat him in Round 1 weeks prior. That's just something of a personal nitpick in the way you said that is all.
Also, gotta love that in the midst of saying that it's a shame Nero doesn't have his busters or his Devil Bringer, you show a DMC5 clip of Nero, in DT, bustering an enemy.
no, saying " he's not quite able to put Urizen down" is correct, while dante certainly *would* have won the fight if it had continued, he wasn't strong enough to prevent urizen from escaping.
i'm honestly not sure if dante was really going to kill urizen/vergil, i mean, i know he meant to, but in the moment of truth, would he have been *able* to?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Don't take my fairly snappy response as a good sign that commenting on years' old things is the usual thing to do.
And to answer, not really, I stand by my original point. Dante schools Urizen in Round 2. The only reason he doesn't stop Urizen from escaping is because he hesitates from the tree doing more of its devil shit. Being distracted from stopping Urizen and being _unable_ to stop him are very different.
And in the third round, after he beats a far stronger Urizen, yes, he appears to be completely willing to kill him.
Remember, as much as he hated doing it, Dante made the vow to stop Vergil by any means necessary (up to and including killing him) even so far back as DMC3. He never wants to, but he's willing to if its necessary, and it was. He didn't even want Vergil to come back, given that he was trying to stop V, and at the end of the game the only reason they don't (more than likely) kill each other in a draw is because Nero steps in.
Dante, since practically his inception, has always known that stopping Vergil may mean killing him, and he's always vowed to stop him.
What a banger of a series. Been with it since the PS2 days, love it to this day. Great to watch someone examine the series from a (at least at first) newcomer's perspective and especially great to see them enjoy it!
Personally I'm not quite as in love with DMC5 as most in the fandom (mostly because I'd prefer the enemies to be more aggressive in general and because I'd prefer a slightly higher game speed), but I can absolutely understand your ranking.
Good stuff!
On the ps 5 there is a mode where you get way more enemies called legendary dark knight mode and there is also turbo mode where the game plays 1.2 times faster
As someone whose first DMC game was DMC 5, playing as V in my first playthrough was my favorite part. His skill floor is really low, and enemies have so little health on the easiest difficulty that you don't notice how low his damage is.
Skip ahead a year and 200 hours of play time, and I don't think I've played V at all since getting all the collectables
Its a great send off to this massive project. I found your channel for Devil May Cry reviews. Now I'm staying for your awesome review style and writing. I can't wait to see what you review next and watch your channel grow. Rock on, man. 🤘😎🤘
Your comparison of Melee to Dmc4 is spot on. Ive got way more hours in Dmc4 but i still love 5 and prefer it in some ways.
Nice video!
Genuinely one of my most anticipated videos of the year. Its been awesome watching your journey and I dont plan on leaving just because the DMC saga is over. Excited to see what your future plans are!
34:59 Underated moment. 🤣
Now if only we could get a DMC 2 for the reboot. I loved it. This coming from a fan of the series since the first game DMC5 was also absolutely amazing.
The game was very fun and I thought the story was good but the dialogue was all over the place.
@@cronobreakers1 Oh it definitely has its issues. No question about that.
i´d like to see you do a retrospective of the soulsborne series just as you did with DMC. either by starting from Demon´s Souls or Dark Souls 1. It´d be interesting
YES!!!
Now that you did this, time to do on the game that Actually started this Franchise Combat mechanics, Onimusha.
For those who are not aware, Devil May Cry Air Combo that every one loves was created because of a bug on Onimusha Warlords that allowed the monsters to be kept in air the dev loved, and decided to bring this mechanic as a core idea on Devil May Cry.
I love seeing your skill improve over the course of the series
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Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
I was hoping he would talk about how fun the Dante boss fight is as soon as he mentioned the Vergil DLC
Yeah i was looking forward to that too its so cool to figth agaist the tools you have used for so long
I have a head canon that the brothers and Nero use real life styles of Sword arts based on the weapons they use and it also reflects somewhat on the boss fights.
Dante = Liechtenauer or German Fencing, this style is aggressive, attacks are both used for offense and defense, unusual from other Longsword styles, Liechtenauer uses mostly Slashes and Cuts, its main Philosophy is Momentum (Before) is king if you lose the momentum to the enemy you would lose so take it quickly and avoid reacting (After)
*Interesting note: it was supposedly a secret style passed down by its founder Johannes Liechtenauer so instead of the typical of leaving his students notes from his lectures he instead gave them a Poem called the Zettel which contains hints on his teachings. (Kind of fitting Dante studies a style that he can turn to a Rock Song if he likes, not to mention Liechtenauer has some attacks that looks like the practioner is styling on the enemy fencer some of which are intentional, a perfect example of this is a mover where the attacker presses the Pummel of the sword on the hands of the enemy as he slashes upwards while you slash downwards towards his arm or torso.)
Vergil = Yagyu Shinkagen Ryu, this style is the inverse of most Kenjutsu styles, instead teaching Caution, Quickness and footwork instead of aggression, the School focuses as well on the environment and to use it in fights and to adapt to the weapons of the enemy as much as you study the art of the school.
*interesting note: the School was founded by a Buddist Monk named Kamiizumi Nobutsuna. (Kind of ironic the power hungry, socially darwinistic book worm studies and practices the style of steotypically Pacifistic Monks)
Nero = Polish Style Saber combat, its likely that the Red Queen is just a stylised Anime Saber based on how it was used in 4, Polish saber uses mostly Cuts and Leans even more so than most saber styles, its aggression was noted as a "Hellish Cut" by German Masters and was famously used by the Winged Hussars which as the name suggests had wings on their sadles to intimidate enemies. (Also its noted in the web as not protecting the hands much lol)
*interesting note: this style is mostly lost due tonthe turbulent history of Poland, much of it is reconstructed using other arts like German, Turkish, Turkic/Steppe and Hungarian styles.
@Forick Grimaldus V = *Pokemon trainer intensifies*
@@machi8976 actually people in the Victorian era used Canes for self-defense they even have cane swords which are the inspiration for bloodborn's weapons.
I was hoping to get your thoughts on the Dante boss fight in this game, it's my personal favorite fight in the series, although the Vergil fight in DMC5 is an incredibly close second.
The reboot was actually my favorite. I play that one more than all the other ones!
16:20 that zoom in got me
I thought I couldn’t love this game more
Then I played Vergil and fought Dante
Best boss ever
*BURY THE LIGHT DEEP WITHIIIIN*
Huh, found you here...
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 Ayyyy
@@water_color I suppose fellow DMC fan gotta meet where DMC is...
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 well said brother
@@water_color Aight brother, see ya around, stay *motivated.*
The beginning background music. Bloody fucking Stream. Respect.
Always great to see another motivated one give praise to the adventures of the wacky woohoo pizza man.
So I did something I don’t normally do. I subscribed. Just watched every DMC video from start to finish and as a lifelong fan I’ve gotta say, bravo. GREAT content. To the extent I hope your channel grows and regardless of what game you cover I can tell it’s gonna be top notch content. You clearly played, enjoyed and appreciated the franchise for what it is. If you happen to be a final fantasy fan like me I’m curious for 16 as that is definitely gonna have similar DMC vibes and I can’t wait. Keep at it!
Now gentlemen. We shall wait for the next dmc game to come, patience is a virtue.
Not likely, everythings Souls now.
The best we get these days is ports and remasters, like Bayonetta and the upcoming Ninja Gaiden ports.
@@docsavage4921 anything can happen :)
@@docsavage4921 remwmber dmc5 released in a post souls world
dmc6 can too
@@V2ULTRAKill Man I hope so. I'd even take Nintendo funding an exclusive, like they did with Bayonetta. And I don't even own a Switch.
Donguri just produced another dmc 4 video. Not surprising after all these years he still came back to play it. Has some great enemies and bosses, and Dante's high-level mechanics which aren't in dmc 5 are really rewarding.
Title: This game rocks
Me: Always have been.
Tips from a V ?main?: the way I enjoyed V is by not staying away but getting literally in their faces.
It helps the accuracy of Shadow, and busting the SS Air taunt right in front of enemies and clearing with Royal Fork.
Do not be scared being close because the famliar's mobility to dodge is very responsive and combined with enemy step you are pretty safe. (The Cane parry is fun but not recommended if you don't plan to play DMC for 100+ hours or BP 101 floors)
Shadow might not have a whole lot of cancellable moves, but the side dodge is certainly one of them.
I wish the environment was better and the character models still be anime style. Other than that great game
I've been using your reviews as a sort of nice epilogue to my own journey through the series, but I skipped 2, cos I can't be arsed with that, loved all of your videos and couldn't agree more with your ranking.
Would personally put dmc1 above the reboot but before 4 but I played it a long time ago (replayed it recently) so maybe my goggles are slightly tinted. I'm surprised people thought 3 had the better story, I think it's probably because of how much of an impact the ending has when you realise it's a prequel to 1 when under the impression it took place afterwards.
DMC5 is the first DMC game I can enjoy without saying "ok this is good BUT I would have done X differently." DMC1, it should have just been a Metroidvania or a Resident Evil map, no need for the mission breaks. DMC3, Cerberus should have been less frustrating and Gigapede should have been less shit. DMC4, it should have been finished. DMC2, it should have just fucked off and let Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne be canon instead.
But DMC5? I can't think of anything I really would have changed. Maybe the hit detection on Nero's Streak, but that's pretty small potatoes. It's just that good
You’re goated for having the Trunks theme playing most of this review! It’s sooo good bruh🙏🏾
For the v gameplay I actually enjoyed it the best way to build up style man is actually you have to lowered everyone of the enemies then you show off your combo in execution of the enemies it's such a cool mechanic but the only problem with v is story wise his familiars not having phantom the spider
The wings Nero has is Father Sparda, pushing his new Lineage forward to protect man and to bring his two sons together. That’s what I thought anyways
Pretty sure a bug lizard demon wouldnt have feathery wings but you do you
I’m surprised he hasn’t touched on the expanded sources like the DMC 1&2 novel, the DMC3 manga, the anime, the 3142 book, etc etc
while i love lady and trish as characters they are woefully outclassed in strength by dante nero and vergil mainly because dante in the first game beat someone who can causally create a universe and in his second game no matter how bad it showed him basically playing with someone on mundus’ level and trish and lady aren’t anywhere near that i wish they could but the amount of power boosting this game would have to do especially for lady who is just a normal human it would be ridiculous
also lady isn’t a ranged fighter in dmc4 se she’s a character who’s multi range mid close and long depending on your skill level she can be a very fun character
Lady is a human with no powers and Trish while being a demon had trouble fighting her, so yeah they are nowhere near the trio in power
I think the obvious counter-argument is that V is one of the main action protagonists and he is also considerable weaker, even choosing to run away from fights Nero and Dante run head-first into. It's not really a question of power, it's how well you write the story and design the game on a utilitarian level. But with 3 protagonists the game was already getting full and the budget wasn't unlimited. I also think V is just the beginning of his type of integration, I hope to see it done better in the future. Can a weaker character work in an action game? Depends on how well you write it. Capcom might not be up to the task (capcom isn't exactly the strongest in terms of nuanced writing) but I think they proposed potential here by putting so much intention into how they created V.
@@202cardline V wasn’t fighting he was barely dodging without his familiars he would be dead in seconds
Personal opinion but I love playing V more than anyone else. All the explosions, swords, lightning and laser beams put a child like glee into my heart. Especially when he’s just a big nerd trying to look cool. Also has my favorite theme song.
12:26 I guess dmc remake doesn't even deserve to be mentioned with like 2 half-saviors
thanks for all of the DMC content and taking the time to do this. Watched all the vids, (even the DMC2 and reboot ones). I was pretty turned off by DMC 4 it being the only dmc game I bought and never got through a single playthrough resulting in me skipping 5 altogether. Looking forward to giving 5 a shot based on this video and info provided, thanks again.
I like that threat
"It's to Mallet island with you"
Wow, great video 😊 I'm so proud of you. Keep up the good work... Love Dani
FINALLY! Now I can finally unsubscribe!
For anyone too new on the internet, this is obviously a joke, I've already unsubscribed.
Except I actually haven't
This is a pretty epic internet comment. Have you tried the epic thrills of a good drag race though?
Okay so basically there are two guys henry emily and william afton they start a family pizza restaurant together called fredbear's family diner, one day william locks henry's daughter charlie out of the restaurant and murders her outside, as seen in the fnaf 2 save him minigame and the security puppet minigame. charlie's soul goes on to possess the puppet animatronic. then in 1983 william's youngest son dies in hospital after being bitten by the fredbear animatronic as seen in fnaf 4, which causes fredbear's to close and the springlock suits to be decommissioned. the bite victim's soul goes on to possess the fredbear suit due to the suffering he sustained from the suit (this is explained in more detail in the fazbear frights epilogues). freddy fazbear's pizza is then opened. in 1985 william afton kills 5 more kids in a freddy's, and their souls go on to possess chica, bonnie, freddy, foxy, and golden freddy/fredbear (which now has 2 souls possessing it, directly paralleling the stitchwraith from the book series). that restaurant closes down but freddy's gets rebranded and has a grand reopening in 1987 as we see in fnaf 2. meanwhile, william opens circus baby's pizza world, featuring kid killing animatronics, however his daughter elizabeth gets killed by one of the animatronics (baby) and goes on to possess her. william sends his oldest son, michael, to go free her from the facility, as seen in sister location. back to freddy's - the fnaf 2 location stays open until the bite of 87, in which it's implied nightguard jeremy fitzgerald gets his frontal lobe bitten off by one of the animatronics. then fnaf 1 happens in a location that exists in 1993, not much lore there. after the 1993 location gets closed, william gets springlocked in the spring bonnie suit inside the abandoned building, becoming springtrap. Back to Baby in SL. Michael, after a week of working there gets lured to the scooping room by Baby in order to get his insides become outsides so that all the Funtime animatronics (now fused into Ennard) can use his body as a fleshsuit to escape the facility. Over time the suit starts to get rotten and more and more decayed. Michael body now turns purple and draws more attention (Note: there are now two purple guys, Miachel Afton, who is litterally purple due to decay in his fleshsuit, and William Afton, who isn't litterally pruple but the purple colour signifies him hiding in the shadow.) and the Funtime animatronics now as Ennard have to abandon ship in search of a new body. Somewhere down the line Baby tries to gain full control of the Ennard body and gets kicked out of Ennard, now becoming Scrap Baby and Ennard becoming Molten Freddy, both seen in Pizzeria Simulator and UCN. Speaking of…this brings us to Pizza Simulator, where our good friend Henry creates a decoy pizzeria intended to lure in all the loose ends which are: William Afton as scraptrap, Molten Freddy as the funtime animatronics, Scrap Baby as William's daughter and Henry's daughter, Elizabeth who posseses the puppet and gets lured in by her father by the animatronic Lefty. Before we get to the ending of pizza sim lets go over some key lore drops hidden in the game. When you buy Candy Cadet he has a chance of telling you 1 of 3 stories a day. All 3 stories follow the same pattern. 5 things becoming 1 thing. (5 keys melted into 1 key, 5 dead kids tied together and 5 dead cats sown together into 1.) This could be reffering to the funtime animatronics together becoming Ennard. On to the 2nd mingame: Secutity Puppet. When playing this minigame for the 3rd time we can see Henry daughter, Elizabeth locked out of the Pizzaria where she gets murdered by Afton, becoming his 1st victim. Next we see the puppet slowly crawling towards her dead body hugging her, and Elizabeth posesses her. When brightening up that same image we can see purple tire tracks from William when he fled the scene. And now for out 3rd minigame: Midnight Motorist. This game in labeled 'later that night' in the game files so we can assume we are playing as Afton in this minigame. When on the 3rd lap, we can see a crack in the road, in we go down it, we end up on a road leading to Jr's a bar/restaurant (presumably the fnaf 1 or 2 location or freddy's family diner) which Will isn't allowed into. The 2nd place we can go to is a house. The afton house. When will sees that his youngest son escapes thru the window to the freddy's restaurant he gets very angry. This most likeley causes William to create the sound illusion discs to scare his child and creating the nightmare animatronics in his mind to make him afraid of the freddy's restaurant. The sound illusion discs are also uses in fnaf 3 to create the phantom animatronics in the players mind. Thats why they also never kill the player in fnaf 3. This brings us to our 3rd and final minigame: Fruity maze. With help from the books and this minigame we know that the child who posseses Chica in fnaf 1 is the girl in Fruity Maze named Susie. This is all this minigame really tells us. Now the Pizza sim Ending. On the 5th night we hear Elizabeth, Henry's daughter talking but is interupted by her father. Henry reveals the pizzeria was a decoy, to lure in and capture all the loose ends and finnaly putting a stop to Afton (He never really dies i'll get to that later) . Everyone dies in the fire and the souls are finally put to rest. Onto UCN. In UCN we play as William Afton in purgatory, tormented again and again by his own creations. Thru the game we learn many things, such as that Chica was the 1st child to be killed and stuffed and possibly the first animatronic to be given life by the puppet. We also learn about 'the one you should not have killed'. This is presumably talking about the child that posseses golden freddy but as mentioned earlier, golden freddy could have mulitple souls inside of it. This brings us to fnaf vr: help wanted. The point here is that William Afton's soul is possesing the game becoming Glitchtrap (I will get into some theories about how this could've happened later). Through the game he posseses a game tester named Vannessa or Vanny (Vannessa+Bunny) which will most likeley be the main antagonist in fnaf security breach. William uses Vanny to continue to kill kids, even though his body is still in purgatory. We will probably get more information on her when security breach is released. Now onto how Afton's soul go tinto the game's come and possesed Vannessa. In the fazbear frights book series we read about two children stuck in the stickraith's body. One of the kids is said to be killed by Afton. He tells us how he is keeping him alive, to be forever tormented. In that same story we read about 'the patient in room 1280'. It is about a man in a hospital, burned beond recognition but somehow still alive. That is obviously William Afton. When the boy finnally decides to let Afton die, his last request is to be wheeled into an old, abandon Freddy's location. The hospital staff do so not really knowing why but looking at the state of Will here he is probably insane to some measures. When he is wheeled into the Freddy's location his body literally explodes. Now some parts of his soul go to purgatory/UCN, and other parts posses the computer parts, later to be scanned and reused to create the vr title. That is most likeley how he posseses the game but we can't really know for sure
Saying that the Reboot had the best non-combat segments in the series isn't a controversial take. The level design and platforming sections in that game were fantastic.
I mean I love the game, but we can’t deny the fact that being a modern game, the developers just thought the level design is not important anymore. So the game is literally a series of corridors. Up until DMC4 the level design was very important, especially in 1 and 3 because it they were built like a Resident Evil-lite game. With a castle to explore and some lite puzzles to solve.
Nero doing the Megaman jump with the arm canon is a favorite of mine 😂
_I thought you already made a review of this a year ago_
Strangely V was my favorite to play, followed closely by Dante. My opinion may be different since I’m new to the DMC series, but I’m not sure.
Edit: I played through the Virgil story. He surpasses all of them by a long shot
"They fight Throne Xemnas from kh2"
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27:33 all the exaggerated swagger of a white adult male
Wow, another video about how dmc 5 is a good game ! After a couple of years it will become a new genre on youtube
V is the best character to me. He's actually almost as complex as Dante but in a different way. The timing of attacks and placement of your familiars is extremely important.
I mean he has depth but I wouldn't say he's anywhere near as complex as Dante.
@@EbonMaster It's a different type of complexity. Less about cancels and switching weapons and styles and more about placement and playing three characters simultaneously. Kinda like those players who are really good at making Vergil's doppelganger do it's own thing except you have two and their movesets are completely different. Playing really well as V is extremely difficult because you can pay a heavy price for any wrong decision you make.
@@tabagathedestroyer9654 I would consider that depth and nuance in spacing and positioning but not complexity. Dante is more complex because of how many more parts of the machine are moving and need to be managed between weapons, styles, meters, etc.. V is more punishing, sure, more spacing dependent, sure, but more complex? Nah.
@@EbonMaster you really only move one part at a time with Dante. With V you're moving 3 at once. V takes better planning to manage. Most people say V is bad because they can't figure out how to play him to the fullest of his ability.
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Even if you dont control multiple at once you manage far more things, swapping rapidly between them and having to keep more options in mind for each next move. I'm not saying V is bad (I dont like playing him much but thats not the point) I'm simply saying that Dante has more complexity.
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With regards to your camera gripes, turning off the cinematic camera I believe it's called and putting your camera distance to around 7 I found perfectly emulates DMC4's camera, with the advantages that brings.
Here because the special edition is on sale. Looking awesome
Finally
As the first game i really played in the series, the first time i played as dante was so cool cuz it went from "oh great game" to "dante is the coolest guy in fiction"
Also, on DMC5, to make the camera work similar to 4, turn camera follow off, zoom in all the way, and turn off "camera turns to new interesting thing on screen mechanic" then a slight down tilt on right stick and you're focused on one enemy in a corner, enemies can't hit you off screen. Works great.