WCW SuperBrawl IX - The "Reliving The War" PPV Review

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    WCW SuperBrawl 9 took place in Oakland, CA on the 21st of February 1999. Nature Boy Ric Flair and Hollywood Hulk Hogan headline another WCW PPV and this time it's Flair trying to win the belt from the leader of the nWo.
    Elsewhere on the card, Rey Mysterio is in danger of losing his mask. Mysterio and Konnan team up to battle Kevin Nash and Lex Luger of the nWo Wolfpac Elite. If Konnan and Rey lose, Mysterio must unmask, however Miss Elizabeth has to shave her head should the Wolfpac lose against K-Dawg and Rey. Booker T and Disco Inferno open the show up, the tag title tournament comes to an end with The Horsemen battling Curt Hennig and Arn Anderson, and Diamond Dallas Page tries to get some revenge when he faces Scott. Steiner
    This video is part of the Wrestling Bios "Reliving The War" Series.
    00:00 - Intro
    01:04 - Disco Inferno vs Booker T
    03:11 - Saturn vs Chris Jericho
    06:06 - Kidman vs Chavo Guerrero Jr
    08:01 - Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko vs Curt Hennig & Barry Windham
    11:49 - nWo Wolfpac vs Rey Mysterio & Konnan
    15:44 - Scott Steiner vs DDP
    19:29 - Scott Hall vs Roddy Piper
    22:32 - Goldberg vs Bam Bam Bigelow
    24:48 - Hollywood Hogan vs Ric Flair
    30:09 - Final Thoughts / Credits
    #WCW #nWo #PPV
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  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    The look of disappointment on Rey’s face when he unmasked said it all

    • @victoryusmc
      @victoryusmc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      For real!

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The unmasked rey figure was kinda cool but too tiny to really be useful to play with lol

    • @exilhamburger4802
      @exilhamburger4802 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@kokotheclown2588From what I understand, Vince McMahon was able to get it approved due to the way Rey lost his mask in a forced tag team bout with an insane Mask vs. Hair of a valet stipulation.

    • @undertakernumberone1
      @undertakernumberone1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​​@@exilhamburger4802it was a few things, I think, iirc... 1) everyone hated it, including thr Commissione for that in Mexico 2) they used a loophole. Rey Misterio, jr. lost his mask. Not Rey Misterio/Mysterio. Rey asked senior to change his ringname to Rey Misterio, sr. he agreed, Rey went with Misterio/Mysterio and the commission waved it through. The tag team thing might have also played into it though.

    • @thisisnotachannel
      @thisisnotachannel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      It was a terrible decision by WCW to begin with... quite disrespectful, on top of that. To Rey Jr. and every other masked luchador in history.

  • @raspymorten
    @raspymorten 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +215

    We have officially entered the David Flair era of Reliving The War baby. Talk about excitement.

    • @sandyakabatteriehuhn
      @sandyakabatteriehuhn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      That means we're getting Crowbar and Daffney soon ❤ (I know their storylines sucked, but at least there was talent)

    • @HereForAStorm
      @HereForAStorm 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      **swirling in the toilet intensifies**

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i dont have idea why david was pushed . he offered nothing outside fact he can work matches

    • @EssexAggiegrad2011
      @EssexAggiegrad2011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@LordDeBahs Nepotism

    • @terryeubanks8797
      @terryeubanks8797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sandyakabatteriehuhn Can't wait. Two complete legends of the later Monday Night War. Those two deserved so much better than what they got.

  • @EssexAggiegrad2011
    @EssexAggiegrad2011 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    Bischoff making Rey Mysterio unmask proves he was an idiot

    • @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
      @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Truly a Car sells man who got lucky!

    • @AndreNDP
      @AndreNDP 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090Lucked in on stealing a New Japan gimmick so he could be successful for not even two years.

    • @mangrove
      @mangrove 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      When Rey went to WWE, he put the mask back on, and they made a killing off of selling replica masks.

    • @jackcarraway4707
      @jackcarraway4707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@mangroveNgl, those masks is what made me a huge fan of the cruiserweights as a kid.

    • @WrestlingCompilations
      @WrestlingCompilations 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well you're right there

  • @exe2517
    @exe2517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    Incredibly disappointing that the mystery man wasn't Norman Smiley or Alex Wright.

    • @TimTE01
      @TimTE01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or The Butcher…again.

    • @babauranai
      @babauranai 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      DONT STOP MOVIN BABY
      DONT STOP MOVIN BABY
      WIGGLE WIGGLE
      WIGGLE WIGGLE

    • @JLvatron
      @JLvatron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Haha, Alex Wright woulda bin amazing!

  • @arostwocents
    @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    A big issue wcw had was every match having run ins and referee distractions. It became ridiculous that no referee ever kept their eye on the action. A distraction becomes unbelievable when it happens every match

    • @MoonlightStrider
      @MoonlightStrider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It honestly makes the referees look like they've just taken a crash course in officiating while having the attention span of a 5 year old seeing a set of keys jangling in front of their faces, especially with WCW like for 4 years these refs have had to put up with NWO running roughshod over the company, you'd think they'd wise up and take initiative to prevent these run ins and the constant rule breaking that have been common in NWO matches but no, let's ignore the match we're officiating right now because fake John Travolta keeps climbing on the apron like an unruly child.

    • @17thNO
      @17thNO 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I gotta agree

    • @anthonyturner6399
      @anthonyturner6399 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly what’s going on rn in present times as well. It’s way to predictable now a days

    • @Thoraxe5150_
      @Thoraxe5150_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds similar to some current Turner content.

    • @kiereanm3254
      @kiereanm3254 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It gets super annoying after a while. They really dragged out the faction wars to the point where it wasn’t fresh anymore

  • @auraofazure
    @auraofazure 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Superbrawl outdrawing Valentines Massacre in buys 485k to 450k showed that WCW still had a bit of time left of goodwill with the paying audiences after the “poke.” Enjoy it while it lasts, the downward spiral will be upon us very soon.

    • @jonwolfenden
      @jonwolfenden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I always saw it as people getting bored with Austin vs Vince and not taking Vince as a serious threat to Austin as a ppv challenger. It would have been smarter to do that match on free tv.

    • @joseaguilera6355
      @joseaguilera6355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      All that goodwill would be gone by the time Fall arrived

    • @ryankeefe2102
      @ryankeefe2102 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@jonwolfendenwell also Hogan v Flair one on one hadn't been done since right when the nwo formed so it was a semi fresh match up plus wwf February ppvs have always suffered from being sandwiched in between royal rumble and wrestlemania. And as fun as it was for Austin to finally get Vince one on one the eventual outcome was never really in doubt

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Maybe st valentine's day massacre drew less because it was on a holiday. I remember at the time being very interested in the outcome for DDP vs Steiner, Goldberg vs Bigelow & the mask vs hair match. Hall vs Piper for the U.S. title & Hogan vs Flair as the main event world title match was baffling & embarrassing though. It was 1999

    • @DBecks09
      @DBecks09 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-kg6tp9js9p Yes, yes and yes.

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Scott Steiner definitely deserved to be in the main event. By this point, he wrestled a lot of countries.

  • @arlibrarian
    @arlibrarian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Comments about the old guys and Rey losing his mask aside, seems like a good show. The thing I’m getting from this is that they really should have pushed Scott Steiner to the main event at this point. Maybe have him lead the disgruntled Black and White as his toadies to just overwhelm the wolfpac Elite. It would fit his “Jock Bully” persona. Suddenly the top of the card looks a lot different even if you’re technically still doing NWO storylines.

  • @georgemetcalf8763
    @georgemetcalf8763 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Bet Foley wishes Rock had studied and copied how Hogan did chair shots.

    • @zacharyscott6779
      @zacharyscott6779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Great. Now I'm picturing those brutal chair shots to the head during the I Quit match being the Hogan style and I'm making myself laugh. Thanks for that haha

  • @Cameron_611
    @Cameron_611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Rey Mysterio being forced to unmask was even worse than when they had Juventud Guerrera unmask at SuperBrawl 8.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Lol it's SO wcw to have an unmasking at the same ppv one year apart

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I thought Juventud became more charismatic & interesting without the mask

    • @Cameron_611
      @Cameron_611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@user-kg6tp9js9p True. At least he lost it in a one on one match for Chris Jericho’s Cruiserweight Championship. Having Rey Mysterio lose his mask in a tag team match against Miss Elizabeth’s hair when she wasn’t even in the match was just stupid even by their standards.

    • @Machete87
      @Machete87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      i prefer Juvie without his mask in all honesty.

    • @troywright359
      @troywright359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Juvi is the one exception. Psychosis, Rey, La Parker, they should always have their masks

  • @didymus3348
    @didymus3348 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Three nWo heel turns in a row at Superbrawl. First Randy Savage then Scott Steiner and now David Flair.

    • @cynthiachristie1059
      @cynthiachristie1059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      agreed

    • @garygood6804
      @garygood6804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It's like poetry, it rhymes

    • @kamenanew9867
      @kamenanew9867 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@garygood6804that made me snicker

    • @highlordlaughterofcanada8685
      @highlordlaughterofcanada8685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smells like a swerve to me bro

    • @Jsl_516
      @Jsl_516 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And Elizabeth turned on Savage the one before that

  • @toptenguy1
    @toptenguy1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This PPV actually outdrew St Valentine's Day Massacre! Insane!

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      it seeems hogan ,flair and piper draw a lot in that time

    • @MikeG82
      @MikeG82 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      i can't believe it outdrew any WWF PPV especially one where Austin fights Vince in a cage, maybe because Super Brawl was always one of their biggest PPV's

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@LordDeBahs Are we sure it was Hogan, Flair & Piper that sold this ppv? Because for me it was the stipulation with Rey Mysterio's mask, the heated DDP vs Steiner feud & Goldberg vs Bigelow

    • @jjbjjb273
      @jjbjjb273 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@user-kg6tp9js9p it was booker vs disco the dream match fans wanted to see

    • @BigK0003
      @BigK0003 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@user-kg6tp9js9p 1000% yes we are sure. there was like 5 people that cared about the little guys back then. EVERYONE was there for Hogan, Sting, Flair, DDP, Nash, Hall, Piper, Hart, etc. Not a single person in the crowds were there for any of the smaller guys.. Check the signs. That's usually a good indicator. listen to how they get booed until they put on "match of the night" only to get a tiny pop at the end. Im sad to say i was kinda one of them. I loved the highflying action. But i really just wanted to see powerbombs, piledrivers, german suplex etc, from my favorites at the time.

  • @alexandermoshenko4416
    @alexandermoshenko4416 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Life is really hard right now, thank you for your continued hard work in making our days a bit better ❤

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *Final days. 😬

  • @eabcool
    @eabcool 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    looked decent overall. i found myself rooting for DDP and it was maddening to watch the referee to allow Steiner to use the exposed buckle. the ref's became useless, more than usual in this era. Got to agree...David Flair...

  • @omarvazquez3355
    @omarvazquez3355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    WRESTLING BIOS YOU ARE THE GOAT 🐐 🏆 🤴

  • @Foxentails
    @Foxentails 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Pretty solid PPV for WCW honestly. Questionable booking aside, at least you had star power and a solid mid card. It gets a lot worse by late 99.

    • @socallawrence
      @socallawrence 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah late 99 was the start of WcW demise

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It gets worser by mid 99

    • @ananyaraizada7657
      @ananyaraizada7657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No matter what anyone says about Hogan politics, the truth is he was still wcw's biggest star and they needed him

    • @lucashenderson2775
      @lucashenderson2775 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup. This was one of their last decent-good moments before they spiraled all the way down from about the middle of 99 on until they got bought in 01.

  • @GeekGameCulture
    @GeekGameCulture 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    One thing to note about this show: the set. It looked plain and wasn't at all like last year's Superbrawl. But you might also notice that it's a bit of foreshadowing for what we were about to see in a month (yeah, this WCW PPV has similar bit of history that the WWE PPV one week earlier had; don't get used to seeing that WCW logo for too much longer). Just two screens on either side and a steel light structure type entranceway. Wonder if that was a bit of a test for what we will be seeing soon.
    I didn't mind the unmasking as much. Maybe it's because it did lead to a rather interesting stable being formed later this year. But once more, each promotion has the "opposite problem". WWE didn't have a completely stable lower card, but they had a red hot main event picture, while WCW's mid and lower card was as strong as concrete but the main event picture just could not keep pace with what preceded it. Very interesting that both companies had the same problem just at different ends of the card, even if the WWE didn't have the worst lower card in the world.

    • @carmagician9272
      @carmagician9272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m a big WWE fan and I absolutely loved the attitude era, and at the time really enjoyed the lower and mid card but re watching the war I’ve realised the WCW definitely had a stronger lower/mid. But not long from now WCW lost a lot of them to WWE and that really was the end

  • @Hedgehobbit
    @Hedgehobbit 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Without Rey losing his mask we'd never have Filthy Animal heel Rey which was the best version of Rey Mysterio.

  • @AllieRX
    @AllieRX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Unmasked Rey Mysterio means the eventual birth of the Filthy Animals.

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🎶 Filthy, dirty, nasty 🎶 That's the way we like it🎶

  • @Kaslo25
    @Kaslo25 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    One thing this series has taught me is that Disco's nWo run was a lot better than it's given credit for

  • @PaulieAI
    @PaulieAI 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This is the best wrestling channel man. The nostalgia is real. Watching this channel grow has been awesome.

  • @martinzies2874
    @martinzies2874 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    If only they'd had the likes of David Flair and Horace Hogan have some feuds with the likes of Fit Finlay or Norman Smiley on Thunder, would've guve them some legitimacy and given the nwo more legs....

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When I initially read your comment, I assumed it was sarcasm, then I realized how much sense that actually would've made. Damn, man, you should've been given Vincce Russo's job! 😃👍

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Fluoride_JonesI don't know how I feel about David Flair going over Fit Finlay.

  • @alexcoelho9688
    @alexcoelho9688 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Everyone points to the Fingerpoke of Doom, but in a lot of ways this was the point WCW began its steady decline. Ratings & PPV buys held up post-fingerpoke until here, but the fact that this was just more of the same old nWo story, no comeuppance for Hogan, David Flair now randomly a key figure, nothing for fans to feel good about other than maybe Goldberg's win: all just became too much. That + wwf continuing to be on a hot streak quickly turns the war into a massacre

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I would argue that the FPoD set them on a path where this NWO stagnation was the only way things could go, given the same people being in charge of creative. A complete retread because they didn’t have any new ideas to complicate the interpersonal relationships within the organization. The B team plot was DOA because they had been nothing talents for too long, and creative had no patience to actually build any of those dudes up, because they were B teamers in the first place due to careless writing and perceived undesirability as featured talents. And after nearly 3 years of putting the NWO well ahead of everything else going on, how does anything else gain ground while the NWO remains whole?

    • @Mrryn
      @Mrryn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@press_x_tojasonThis is my thought as well. The Poke wasn't the "end of WCW" but calling it "the *beginning* of the end" is accurate - that moment was the turning point in terms of it being an eye opener into WCW's stale booking, coinciding perfectly with the Fed kicking into high gear in terms of storylines and characters.

    • @highlordlaughterofcanada8685
      @highlordlaughterofcanada8685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Personally I felt it started before the Finger Poke. I guess it's different for each of us.

    • @jackcarraway4707
      @jackcarraway4707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      WCW's decline started all the way back at Starrcade 97 with the botched finish in the main event. After that was the debut of Thunder that spread everything out too thin.
      The Fingerpoke of Doom, while dumb and annoying, did not lead to an immediate collapse; they still did fine in the ratings.
      Imo, the true final nail in the coffin was the loss of Jericho and the Radicalz. Without them, WCW had NOTHING going for them in the midcard. WCW would become a nearly unwatchable mess in 2000 while WWE had its greatest year ever. 2000 also saw the well-deserved push of Booker T into the main event, further weakening the midcard.

    • @DariusFrench6273
      @DariusFrench6273 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And then Vince Russo came over. And by then, it was the point of no return.

  • @BrandanTheBroker
    @BrandanTheBroker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    David Flair getting to do anything with Torrie Wilson should get him into the Hall Of Fame 😂
    Seriously, made sense to see it happen as on the other channel, Vince vs Shane was and still happens

    • @namikstudios
      @namikstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You know he dated Stacy Keibler in real life about a year after this right? Yes, David Flair, the deer in the headlights, somehow managed to date the one and only Stacy Keibler! Now that's HOF worthy lol.

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@namikstudios So, Stacy Keibler went from dating the one and only David Flair to that slouch George Clooney? Talk about trading in a Ferrari for a Ford Pinto, am I right! 😆

  • @MongrelWarrior
    @MongrelWarrior 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    To me, Superbrawl 9 is sort of like watching Killers Of The Flower Moon: starts off really good in the first 2 thirds, but the last third really dragged. But still, this PPV is pretty good (Rey losing his mask and David Flair's heel turn aside).

  • @angeltosome
    @angeltosome 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    David Flair crawled so Dominick Mysterio could fly.

  • @Jsl_516
    @Jsl_516 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    So was David Flair filming himself with Torrie in the hotel room, getting the taser from Scott Hall, and then sending it to the WCW production truck? Or did he have his own cameraman that was always standing directly in front of him?

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The camera men don't exist like on any TV show

    • @GMSpectre
      @GMSpectre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It was a special eye implant with an updated version of the Refer-eye camera from that one Halloween Havoc.

    • @____K_____989
      @____K_____989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@GMSpectreReefer alright. Lol.

    • @zacharyscott6779
      @zacharyscott6779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He had the very first version of a Go Pro.

    • @LordDeBahs
      @LordDeBahs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah thats what i hate about prowrestling . just do exiting promos and in ring story telling not stupid reality show in hotels ,hospitals , bars unless its direct promo from these places
      acting like there is no camera man is pretty stupid

  • @MR-RED428
    @MR-RED428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I know this isn’t about the PPV but I recently got a limited Edition WCW NWO Fall Brawl Rey Mysterio JR Racing Champions car

  • @Paranitis
    @Paranitis 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    The tag team ending was pure genius honestly. Choking your opponent with the belt, and then hiding that you are still choking him with the belt by having your arm in the way of it while pinning him? Good stuff.

    • @VGChampofWV
      @VGChampofWV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was honestly thinking the same thing. And haven't seen it since.

  • @Myndir
    @Myndir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    David Flair dated Stacy Keibler. The man was not a failure with the ladies in shoot!

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    I honestly think in my opinion it was a mistake for WCW to have Rey Mysterio lose his mask

    • @zachsmith1634
      @zachsmith1634 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I’d say everyone agrees with you because WWE instantly put it back on him and never removed it ever again lmao

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @zachsmith1634
      Rey should have defected to WWE after losing the Mask and WWE would have let Rey keep his Mask on,
      Imagine Rey Mysterio in the Attitude Era

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @michaelsinger4638
      WCW gave Rey that Gangsta Gimmick which honestly I still have mixed feelings about

    • @troywright359
      @troywright359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Rey made it work without the mask. But....

    • @LandonErp
      @LandonErp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bischoff gave his reasoning wasn't marketable in the US and WCW didn't have merchandising connections to make and sell lunchador masks like the WWE does.

  • @King_LightStep
    @King_LightStep 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That unmasked rey mysterio run was legendary

  • @benziescha5438
    @benziescha5438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Have to say I really enjoyed this one, aside from decent action and a genuinely shocking swerve, Barry Windham looks 10 years younger than when he was in the wwf, would love to know what his experience of wcw was like.

    • @carmagician9272
      @carmagician9272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I watched this video this morning and thought the same, how much younger and better windham looked, compared to his 1996 run as the stalker, and even though apa was one of my favourite teams

    • @carmagician9272
      @carmagician9272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Windham and Bradshaw could have worked as the APA

  • @WhoCaresAnymoreTho
    @WhoCaresAnymoreTho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The birth of Rey mysterio jr as the GIANT KILLER

  • @idkhonest8482
    @idkhonest8482 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😂 20:28 that fan in the jacket having the time of his life 😂

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally missed that. What a dork! 🤣

  • @S.Dot87
    @S.Dot87 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    this pay per view brings back some memories as i attended the event when i was a kid. still remember the crowd chanting for austin during the Goldberg match lol

  • @louisvelez40
    @louisvelez40 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I was not a fan of Rey unmasking, it was a part of his identity as a character and history of the mask for Mexican wrestlers and what it means for them.

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I just gotta say this...I understand the importance of Rey's mask. But I still loved Rey without his mask. And thankfully Vince and WWE wanted Rey to use his mask when he came over to WWE.

  • @chrisdub846
    @chrisdub846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rey without his mask looks like Dominik when he was a little kid on Smackdown

  • @ronaldsb3
    @ronaldsb3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4 Horsemen intro 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @superquokka
    @superquokka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    We are entering the era of WCW when I am completely hazy about what happens. Booking like this completely turned me away and I wouldn’t bother channel flipping on Monday nights. Looking forward to seeing how things go down in the final years of WCW. I know it’s not pretty, but thanks to this channel, at least it will be a fun ride!

    • @thor1829
      @thor1829 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We are getting closer and closer to the clusterfrick that is Russo's WCW 2000.

    • @ainnocent
      @ainnocent 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Right! Im curious because Booker T winning the title, david arquette, the bash at the beach 2000 are all I remember. The WWE parts to this point are recaps but I remember most of the good parts, but WCW Im curious for.

  • @Dr_1212
    @Dr_1212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    RIP WCW
    Gone but never forgotten
    Reliving the War will be a tough watch from now until the end

  • @cliffbogard9546
    @cliffbogard9546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Next week has my favorite Stiener line
    "While your on your back screaming in pain your wife is gonna be on her back screaming my name"

  • @bitesthedust
    @bitesthedust 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Rey Mysterio losing his mask makes him just another Cruiserweight wrestler. I don't see how he could benefit without it.

  • @sukanyacole1882
    @sukanyacole1882 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    David Flair, love him or hate him that was the most shocking betrayal since Marty and Shawn. And probably even since!

    • @demoniclily1892
      @demoniclily1892 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn’t shocking it was just stupid and didn’t make sense.

  • @LakeInTheDarkProductions
    @LakeInTheDarkProductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Sources say Disco had "Annoyince with semi creative control." Was the only reason he couldn't be let go. And he was probably the successor of the booty man.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Explain?

    • @charlesiofaustria7361
      @charlesiofaustria7361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@arostwocents he's trying to be funny but it ended up being cringe.

  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of the many life lessons that wrestling has taught me is: You can't put the mask back on.

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But they did it to Rey Mysterio in wwe 2002?

    • @thequixoticangler3364
      @thequixoticangler3364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But Rey did. I had actually forgotten he ever got unmasked. They booked him so strong in WWE. Made everyone forget about the maskless garbage.

    • @JeffTullock-fs4de
      @JeffTullock-fs4de 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KISS did it and it wasn’t the same if you were there the first time. Having no idea what they looked like.

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JeffTullock-fs4de I still liked Kiss without the makeup

  • @jbanks979
    @jbanks979 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    “So I want you to take your mask off”
    “It’s a big part of my cultural identity as a luchadore, it’s also 1999 and I look 12 years old underneath. I’d prefer you write me literally anything else to do”
    “Take it off we have a good reason”
    “What’s that”
    “Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

    • @highlordlaughterofcanada8685
      @highlordlaughterofcanada8685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "I don't like masks"

    • @stevenmacaulay8807
      @stevenmacaulay8807 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's amazing thinking it was a great idea to take the mask off the best luchador who can sell and express better than most of your main event scene...

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe888 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I didnt realize David Flair joined the nWo so soon after his first match

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Samantha was very popular when she debuted. And her mystery man was quite a swerve!
    But the real value was how it setup the next PPV and the rare double-turn.

  • @cabutler1
    @cabutler1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's a shame about Rey Mysterio Jr. losing his mask. It's a good thing that never happened to Rey Mysterio! Could you imagine if he got unmasked?

    • @burntvirtue
      @burntvirtue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dumb

    • @nikeneon3188
      @nikeneon3188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dom would unmask him in few years

    • @cabutler1
      @cabutler1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nikeneon3188 When did Dom do that? I'm not finding any information on that.

    • @nikeneon3188
      @nikeneon3188 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cabutler1 Me failed english. Sorry I was meant to say, that he would do that in Rey retirement match. In my defense he done that on last Royal Rumble (backstage)

  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great, now I'll have that WolfPac/Inferno mashup stuck in my head all day.

  • @shaunbeaty6117
    @shaunbeaty6117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    IMO the downward spiral of WCW started when Hogan couldn't put Sting over. Honestly that made that whole year long buildup feel wasted. Secondly the NWO overstayed it's welcome. One by having too many WCW guys join should've been just former WWE guys. Lastly they didn't really put the younger talent in the main event enough. WWE had Austin Rock Taker being the oldest Foley then HHH later. And one person didn't hold the belt for years straight they traded it making star's that can walk without the belt. Hogan needed the title to be relevant. All of this plus Eric not putting some of the cruiser weights in the main event spot even the semi main. Too many overpaid guys in big spots.

  • @mattwilliams1529
    @mattwilliams1529 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video, was at this event at the Oakland Coliseum at 22 years old. Time flies.

    • @gp.5989
      @gp.5989 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was 12 watching this with my Dadon ppv.

  • @christopherbissett1986
    @christopherbissett1986 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No matter what is happening in my life I always look forward to wrestling bios uploads you always make the day a little better your a top man brother

  • @Eric-wu7bp
    @Eric-wu7bp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    “SUPERBRAWL SUNDAY???” As how Lex Luger would say it 😂

    • @TheBandit025Nova
      @TheBandit025Nova 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s an Shame he has an Version 2

  • @nickbanks7954
    @nickbanks7954 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    24 years later, and unmasking Mysterio is still the stupidest decision ever made.

    • @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
      @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Hands down.
      No questions asked

    • @RyanCT89
      @RyanCT89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      So disrespectful. Served zero purpose.

    • @stu9856
      @stu9856 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      3 months later in KC was pretty stupid

    • @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
      @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stu9856 what’s KC?!

    • @user-kg6tp9js9p
      @user-kg6tp9js9p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      WCW made worser decisions than this, come on now

  • @cynthiachristie1059
    @cynthiachristie1059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I miss bam bam so much

  • @anthonyfernandez822
    @anthonyfernandez822 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This man makes my Fridays and Sundays complete

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The recaps are too long, it's a bit boring I wish it was just one minute on each match rather than going by it move by move

    • @DebitAdams
      @DebitAdams 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@arostwocents I like the detail but if you are more a YT shorts or TikTok quick and fast entertainment type of person, I can understand not liking it.

  • @cynthiachristie1059
    @cynthiachristie1059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    goldberg vs bam bam bigelow was underrated!!!!!!!!!!

  • @MasonD69420
    @MasonD69420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the unmasking was a very sad moment in wrestling history

  • @iamdb1990
    @iamdb1990 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    so El Dandy never got a US title shot? injustice, he was a jam up guy

  • @mongomongo7664
    @mongomongo7664 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Wcw undercard awesome but the WCW main event sucks WWF undercard sucks but the WWF main events awesome 👊

    • @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
      @gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Yin and Yang for sure.
      It won’t be to long until WWF is the only watchable one however

  • @firewalker1372
    @firewalker1372 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we are going to talk about eye pokes. The two wrestlers who give the best eye pokes, Piper and Flare.

  • @Jerry-zc5qt
    @Jerry-zc5qt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wild Bill Goldberg is well aware that if he took 3 chinlocks his mystique and career would be over just like his undefeated streak

  • @kaseyharrison2056
    @kaseyharrison2056 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for all the custom intros! I love discos, Steve blackmans and the big wiggler 😂

    • @marccaselle8108
      @marccaselle8108 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big wiggle caterpillar

  • @jonwolfenden
    @jonwolfenden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Torrie was never named Samantha in WCW. Those videos aired for 2 weeks and the announcers never once acknowledged her till she came out during the main event of superbrawl with no name. The next night she was named Torrie Wilson by Disco.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Aye I was thinking I remember her being called torrie

    • @jonwolfenden
      @jonwolfenden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think that was just an internet rumor as she didn’t have a name on tv for a couple weeks. It might have even been wcw’s plan but she was never called that on wcw

  • @ShaunInce123
    @ShaunInce123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rey Mysterio looked so weird without the mask.

  • @PMDRODNEY
    @PMDRODNEY 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ralfus deserves his own custom intro. He has earned his spot alongside Disco and Alex.

  • @medalwelder
    @medalwelder 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I loved Rey Mysterio with and without the mask.probably without the mask even more but looking back as an adult, it was a stupid short sided decision

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Wow someone in the comments who was actually there and remembers Rey being much more popular after losing the mask, well done 😮

    • @rdrouynriv
      @rdrouynriv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arostwocents That is because they allowed him to cut more promos and started a feud with the outsiders. He could've done the same thing with the mask.

    • @namikstudios
      @namikstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So much better without the mask. Best version of his character for sure.

  • @MidwestMachete
    @MidwestMachete 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Eric Bischoff not liking masked wrestlers is insane to me, like I'm sure there was money to be made with those masks and plus, WCW had a majority of them in the Cruiserweight division.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah this isn't true. It was due to wcw having too many masked guys and having many one shot masked guys on nitro. The matches had no heat as all the masks blurred into one. Rey was not popular so he was best choice to lose the mask and was a lot more popular afterwards. Rey saying it went down a certain way to benefit him does not mean it was the truth. Rey is hardly gonna admit he wasn't popular and it was the right decision, as he hated having to lose the mask

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People complaining about him losing the mask are imagining it like WWF with him as the only mask guy, but you would get like 3 matches with mask Vs mask guys and they were boring and had no heat, despite the amazing action, as you could not have enough charisma on show with both wrestlers masked

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These shows should be made by people who remember the time rather than just say what the hindsight opinion is

    • @namikstudios
      @namikstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arostwocents gets it. Maskless Rey was the best version of his character for sure.

  • @mitchwooten5150
    @mitchwooten5150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wood from the Hood 🤙That Works for me brother and Wrestling Bios on my Sundays

  • @marquan1976
    @marquan1976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Roddy Piper with the eye pokes:
    Vintage Moe Howard! - Michael Cole

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was no better in the ring than Nash and with about as much charisma too. Terrible signing who should have either been commentary or nothing

    • @kbhalacy
      @kbhalacy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wise guy, eh?

  • @MaynardOwns
    @MaynardOwns 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idk what’s worse Rey unmasked or bam bam not getting a third chin lock. I wanted a “bam bam bigelow chin lock” thing

  • @imal25
    @imal25 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW FOR THE RETRACING THE STEPS THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AND TAKE CARE.

  • @Obscusion2
    @Obscusion2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's going to be really interesting to see how exactly WCW decided that the next logical step from "Hogan got Ric Flair's son to betray him & join the nWo" would be "Ric Flair turns heel & mad with power which, in turn, turns Hogan & the nWo into the babyfaces" once we get to the main event of Uncensored '99.

    • @namikstudios
      @namikstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would have worked really well if David wasn't completely out of his depth. Feel sorry for him TBH. Impossible shoes to fill and he just didn't have the "it factor" that made his dad the legend he is.

    • @Fluoride_Jones
      @Fluoride_Jones 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@namikstudios David Flair had the "(sh)it factor," though. 💩😆

  • @scottgormley770
    @scottgormley770 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    That unmasking haunts Rey to this day. Should have been a last act in his career.
    One of the very situations that proves Bischoff isn't the businsss man he thinks he is. Poor Rey.

    • @namikstudios
      @namikstudios 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that Rey was more over unmasked and that it was far from the last act of his career proves that Eric was right all along. Maskless Rey is easily the best version of his character.

  • @aegaeon117
    @aegaeon117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I went to this ppv, I can tell you the energy for Hogan Hulking up and that match in general was crazy, everyone was talking about it after the show.

  • @ukwolfman6938
    @ukwolfman6938 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cannot believe that both Disco Inferno and David Flair were in the NWO and no one thought to team them up. Disco Inflairno would have ruled the tag team division.

  • @garyfeuer1071
    @garyfeuer1071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Lugar and mysterio was always a weird pairing - it's 100× better that Hall substituted

    • @jonwolfenden
      @jonwolfenden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rey screaming “THUG LIFE” after he slammed a limo door on Luger’s arm on the go home Thunder is a memory I will cherish till I’m in the ground.

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Luger just wasn’t dynamic enough working with smaller guys. He was actually way better working with even bigger guys because of how it emphasized his raw physicality when he still made his offense work.

  • @AmazingGuy13
    @AmazingGuy13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another historic wrestling moment with Rey's unmasking

  • @vibeofthee80s_
    @vibeofthee80s_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great video thank you sir
    💪 😎 I was a WWF fan growing up but occasionally I would watch SuperBrawl or Starcade with my buddies, what a great time to be a kid
    11/11/23

  • @KizzMyAbs
    @KizzMyAbs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:52 the Harlem hangover looked great smashed the infernos face

  • @suntanironman
    @suntanironman 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can we all appreciate how little sense Mysterio’s SuperBrawl match makes now (with Lex no longer officially participating in the match). The whole storyline reason why Rey risked being unmasked was because of his feud with Lex. Rey was technically feuding with Wolfpack in general, but Rey was very specifically feuding with Lex of the Wolfpack. It was Rey who was specifically feuding with Lex and Konnan who was specifically feuding with Nash. But with Lex no longer in the match, Rey has little storyline reason to risk his mask. Yet… he’s still competing in the match that risks him being unmasked… for… reasons… maybe… I guess.
    If Bischoff was going to force Mysterio to unmask - which was a terrible idea, but if Bischoff was going to do it anyway - at least make it make sense. Remove Rey from this specific match and make it a Konnan vs. Nash singles match (or just cancel the match outright). Save the unmasking for later. Skip this PPV to at least make Rey’s unmasking feel more important. Obviously Bischoff just wanted to mask off and didn’t really care about the storyline. Lex at least showed up at the end of the match, so at least Bischoff cared enough to remember to do that, lol.
    23 (nearly 24) years ago this happened. But 23 (nearly 24) years later I’m still enjoying watching a masked-Mysterio wrestle. That man somehow defies time. Should have never been forced to unmask, but I’m glad he was permitted to put the mask back on.

  • @joshlevy9462
    @joshlevy9462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was there at age 13; it was a good show overall and looking back now it was a show filled with legends. I forgot it was a Tag Team match where Rey lost his mask to Nash because I remember Scott Hall vs Piper as Hall’s match of the night but I remember Scott Hall doing the Outsiders Edge to Rey and placing him with the Nash for the win. Only thing missing was a Macho Man but he was gone with knee injuries and no Sting was out too.

  • @ASoberBear
    @ASoberBear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As I this series I understand why WCW started folding. Death by 1,000 paper cuts that was noticeable in 1998 & by 1999 it was clear they were following same old hat.

  • @CMWaters
    @CMWaters 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You can see Dominik's looks in Rey's face after the unmasking.
    Speaking of, could David Flair in the nWo be considered a prototype for Dirty Dom decades later, only with Dom taking the ball and running with it unlike David here (even if I did like David's eventual team with Crowbar)?

    • @stevenmacaulay8807
      @stevenmacaulay8807 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be fair David just had those rosey red cheeks. He looks like he escaped a Disney cartoon.

    • @CMWaters
      @CMWaters 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @stevenmacaulay8807 Well, WCW did air shows at Disney related venues at times...
      Also...a case of "To be Fair to Flair"? XD

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The razor Ramon elbow pad is a great find. Never noticed that and it’s hilarious 😆

  • @thepatsnumber1fan
    @thepatsnumber1fan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How wcw never marketed Rey’s mask is a true waste could’ve made millions and David being part of nwo elite and not the b team was a mess

  • @Littlebigdan
    @Littlebigdan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You missed the part at the end of Schavonni kept having a go at brain for calling a move the wrong name which is funny considering the so called sidewalk slam name 🤣

  • @sd1593
    @sd1593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know how I miss this one! I Was going to all the PPV!s at the time! Both Royal Rumbles Nitro in Sacramento! Elimination Chamber! Can’t believe I missed this one!

  • @TheGr8T8Channel
    @TheGr8T8Channel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man! I wanna hear, "BAM BAM CHINLOCK!"

  • @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269
    @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    27:00
    Pretty sure this chair shot is what split Ric, the bottom edge of the curved back plate catches him towards the top front of his head.
    Unless Ric is just slick enough to cut himself that deep in the spot the chair hit.
    😄👍

  • @PrinceVegita1
    @PrinceVegita1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate they tried to do something with David Flair. The nWo joining was meh, I admit, but later on his "being insane run" was legit fun af.

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saturn VS Jericho was quite something, really liked it. Both are great workers!

  • @OofmanRulz
    @OofmanRulz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was there ever an explanation as to why Hall wore the Razor elbowpad?

  • @bennyd345
    @bennyd345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should be interesting! Got my popcorn ready here....

  • @blcad2596
    @blcad2596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dominic really looks like a young Rey

  • @daisusaikoro
    @daisusaikoro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ray losing his mask is when I realized the WCW was over. Good night.

  • @xxxaragon
    @xxxaragon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel the fact that this ppv still managed to pull such a high buyrate is a good indicator (or even proof) that WCW would have still had +some+ change to turn things around in 1999.