Wife and I just purchased a 90k mile for $25k OTD. So far we are happy with it for putting around town doing errands, going to dinner and picking up kids from school. Perfect really. For long trips we have the Toyota Venza.
There's a 2016 Model X P90D for sale in my area for $37.5K...with less than 17K on the odometer. My first thought was that someone rolled back the odometer, but I'm not sure that's even possible with a Tesla. Looking at the pictures, though, the thing looks immaculate inside and out. I don't mean just good detailing, I mean there's no wear on the plastic kick panels or leather, etc. It's really tempting, but I know this generation of Model X had issues with the front half shafts vibrating due to an engineering flaw in the geometry between the drive motor and the wheels at a certain ride height, and the whole car is out of warranty. If you add the cost of a replacement battery to the purchase cost, that's enough to get a really nice, low mileage 2021 Model-X that's still under warranty. That's my dilemma. Do I choose this really nice older Model X and HOPE it's okay, or do I try to stretch for a newer model that still has some warranty? I also noticed how laggy that MCU was. Has that one been upgraded to MCU2? Anyway, thanks for this review/walk through/drive. These older Model X's are definitely a lot more affordable.
It would be hard to roll back the miles on a Tesla, you would have to hack the software. The Model X is a great all electric EV and ownership costs and repairs are generally much lower than a comparable gas powered third row luxury crossover like a BMW, Audi, or Mercedes. But as far as Teslas go, the Model X generally has more issues due to increased complexity. We have bought and sold many Models Xs over the years and the most common issues are yellowing and delamination of the screen, leaking air suspensions and broken second row seats. The batteries in Tesla’s can go 200-300k miles before needing replacement, generally the failure rate of EV batteries is lower than the failure of gas engines. A new Model X is about $80-$90k so a nice used example for $37,500 is a lot less expensive. But if you don’t need the size of a Model X you can buy a late model 2023 3 or Y for around $37,500 with warranty and newer tech.
@@infinitioftacoma1 - I considered the Model Y. On paper, it's probably the best bang for the buck you can get with a Tesla, i.e. brand new for less than $50K. But, it doesn't have the air suspension of the MX, laminated windows, improved sound-proofing, etc. After watching more reviews than I care to mention, in comparison to the MX, the MY is apparently more crashy over bumps, louder, and just has a rougher ride, in general. As my wife and I are not as young as we used to be, the idea of a comfortable, quiet ride is more appealing. The MY is also smaller inside, which is kind of a detractor for me at 6'2. To be fair, the MX isn't exactly generous in the 2nd row with regard to legroom, but it still looks like more than the MY. With the air suspension on the MX, I can also adjust the entry/exit height. For all of these reasons and more, the MX has always been at the top of my list. The new ones are just too expensive to even consider, so I'm left to sift through the used market in hopes of finding something that'll suit our needs and not break the bank. The one I mentioned for $37.5K is beautiful, but as it's completely out of warranty, I'm wary of buying into a money pit/project car. The battery fuse warning is on the screen, which I know isn't a big deal to replace, but the used dealer says they can't replace it until the car has been bought and they can't/won't show me a picture of the screen showing the battery fully charged. I'm probably over-thinking it, but it makes me nervous. To get something Raven or later, we're talking closer to $50K. Still less than new, but probably a significant improvement over the 2016 MX. Thanks again for the review and comments. It all helps in my decision making.
Wife and I just purchased a 90k mile for $25k OTD. So far we are happy with it for putting around town doing errands, going to dinner and picking up kids from school. Perfect really. For long trips we have the Toyota Venza.
Looking at a very similar deal, at the moment. Are you still happy with this purchase?
Same here. I’m on the fence though
There's a 2016 Model X P90D for sale in my area for $37.5K...with less than 17K on the odometer. My first thought was that someone rolled back the odometer, but I'm not sure that's even possible with a Tesla. Looking at the pictures, though, the thing looks immaculate inside and out. I don't mean just good detailing, I mean there's no wear on the plastic kick panels or leather, etc. It's really tempting, but I know this generation of Model X had issues with the front half shafts vibrating due to an engineering flaw in the geometry between the drive motor and the wheels at a certain ride height, and the whole car is out of warranty. If you add the cost of a replacement battery to the purchase cost, that's enough to get a really nice, low mileage 2021 Model-X that's still under warranty.
That's my dilemma. Do I choose this really nice older Model X and HOPE it's okay, or do I try to stretch for a newer model that still has some warranty? I also noticed how laggy that MCU was. Has that one been upgraded to MCU2?
Anyway, thanks for this review/walk through/drive. These older Model X's are definitely a lot more affordable.
It would be hard to roll back the miles on a Tesla, you would have to hack the software. The Model X is a great all electric EV and ownership costs and repairs are generally much lower than a comparable gas powered third row luxury crossover like a BMW, Audi, or Mercedes. But as far as Teslas go, the Model X generally has more issues due to increased complexity. We have bought and sold many Models Xs over the years and the most common issues are yellowing and delamination of the screen, leaking air suspensions and broken second row seats. The batteries in Tesla’s can go 200-300k miles before needing replacement, generally the failure rate of EV batteries is lower than the failure of gas engines. A new Model X is about $80-$90k so a nice used example for $37,500 is a lot less expensive. But if you don’t need the size of a Model X you can buy a late model 2023 3 or Y for around $37,500 with warranty and newer tech.
@@infinitioftacoma1 - I considered the Model Y. On paper, it's probably the best bang for the buck you can get with a Tesla, i.e. brand new for less than $50K. But, it doesn't have the air suspension of the MX, laminated windows, improved sound-proofing, etc. After watching more reviews than I care to mention, in comparison to the MX, the MY is apparently more crashy over bumps, louder, and just has a rougher ride, in general. As my wife and I are not as young as we used to be, the idea of a comfortable, quiet ride is more appealing. The MY is also smaller inside, which is kind of a detractor for me at 6'2. To be fair, the MX isn't exactly generous in the 2nd row with regard to legroom, but it still looks like more than the MY. With the air suspension on the MX, I can also adjust the entry/exit height. For all of these reasons and more, the MX has always been at the top of my list. The new ones are just too expensive to even consider, so I'm left to sift through the used market in hopes of finding something that'll suit our needs and not break the bank.
The one I mentioned for $37.5K is beautiful, but as it's completely out of warranty, I'm wary of buying into a money pit/project car. The battery fuse warning is on the screen, which I know isn't a big deal to replace, but the used dealer says they can't replace it until the car has been bought and they can't/won't show me a picture of the screen showing the battery fully charged. I'm probably over-thinking it, but it makes me nervous.
To get something Raven or later, we're talking closer to $50K. Still less than new, but probably a significant improvement over the 2016 MX. Thanks again for the review and comments. It all helps in my decision making.