I wonder if you are able to do this process on a Model 3 RWD 2023 if so could upload a video with prices and specs on what they do, that would be fantastic!!!!! 🙌
While it only added 45 miles of range its actually not the range that really gets upgraded when going from 75 to 90kwh. Its the charging speed, or rather the charging speed curve. While they have similar total (0-100%) charge times and similar peak charging speeds while at a supercharger, a 75kwh battery can only maintain its peak charging power for something like 3-5 min before it starts slowing the charge rate. A 90kwh battery can do it for closer to 15min before it starts slowing down. That might not sound like a lot but at a supercharger you are almost never going to charge to 100% so it ends up cutting your average time spent sitting at a supercharger almost in half.
"we'll let them explain the problems" [just reads the problems] would have been cool to see the process of fixing those issues, even at a higher level. This video wasn't as interesting as it could have been.
@@kathyxi4588 I don’t think they’re gonna tell you it’s probably a trade secret of some sorts. That’s why I didn’t show a lot of dismantling. The battery actually is not that hard but they did make it look hard.
Just imagine if they had a (open) supply chain, that you could order if you meet basic high voltage certification and Tesla specific training. Just imagine a world where @3:30 was not the only means to have 3rd party service (and supply chain). Surely that is a beautiful world that we all want (well not musk obviously)
That would be wonderful and it’s what a lot of people and shops are fighting for. It’s amazing the effort people are willing to go through to still help Tesla owners in the community though. The whole community right now entirely relays on parting out scrap Tesla’s and working independent of Tesla. EVS Republic does an incredible job at helping customers who are tired of dealing with the manufacture
@@AIAddict I think the economics and need is there. You see rebuilders turning profits from buying two salvaged teslas while keeping one working tesla from this. People will jump on this; because the secondary market is so starved for parts.
Does the car still have the factory powertrain warranty? I’m curious as 2016 cars should still be covered (unless delivered at a very early date in 2016), and the earlier Model Xs I believe are 2016s
I wish someone would make high C after market batteries so you could do 200+ kw charging on legacy cars. I wonder if the wiring would need to be upgraded to handle high state of charge.
Would upgrading the battery through an independent shop like this give Tesla a reason to cancel free lifetime charging? I'm thinking about buying a cheap model X and upgrading the battery.
At 7:56 to 8:06, you say that the vehicle now has an updated ideal range of 84 miles? What are you talking about here? A 90D should have a full range of well over 250 miles (yes, those are "tesla" miles that aren't real world miles, but you know what I mean). My guess is that you're showing a battery that isn't fully charged, which doesn't do justice to this fantastic work. Without further explanation, it makes it sound like you're saying that 3/4 of the cells in the new battery pack are cooked. To a Tesla owner, a full range of 84 miles is absolutely horrifying.
Hello, thanks for sharing this video. Do you know if in Europe there are people that do the same work? Actually I have a Model X 75D and I would like to upgrade the battery. Have a good day, Fabio
@@AIAddict it’s trivial for them to just take the VIN and ban super charging. They did it to Rich Rebuilds. This isn’t a guess. Your only hope is that they don’t notice.
The cost for miles gained isn’t technically the “best” unless you have a degraded battery. However, the service is available in Sacramento. It takes about 5.5 hours of labor + material costs. Let me know if serious. We could always film it too! Lol
@@EVtripper You will need to speak for the shop (they are called EVS Republic). The battery we used was already in our possession. I believe in normal situation the battery cost about $9-$10k. However, you might get a discount if you give them your old battery. Reach out to EVS Republic, tell them AI Addict sent you from TH-cam and see what price they can quote you. I know the labor is about $1,000 plus cost of materials
@@AIAddict From my knowledge, there isn't a Long Range RWD that exists. Or at least not anymore. I believe there used to be though. But I think the LR battery capacity has increased from 75kwh to 82kwh.
Why would you get more? The upgrade of the 75 pack to 90 is actually less than 20% in usable capacity. The miles increase inline with the percentage increase.
@AI Addict Possible but not recommended. Tesla had structural and airbag differences on the 100d due to the increased weight. It is a potential safety issue in an accident.
Typical ev hater that is more guided by emotion than logic. The world will evolve with or without you bud. Have you ever been to a junkyard and seen how many ICE vehicles there are? Teslas can end up in salvage due to many reasons besides reliability.
it's so cool, ev's are the future! you can do this swap for yearssss on
Nice to see this can be done. Electric vehicles are relatively simple and should not be subject to gatekeeping by the manufacturer.
Great video! I love that you're branching out to other EV related content!
Thank you Lucas! We have had a lot of fun branching out as well :)
Its not only the range. it also upgrades the charging speed
This is awesome, keep em coming !
Thanks! Will do!
Nice job. Hope they stick around and improve their skills. We need companies like this around.
I wish we had a workshop like this in Australia. I would love to walk through a Tesla wrecking yard.
awesome video! how much did this service cost? this is critical for all of us to know since our Tesla will eventually age and need a replacement
I hoped that You will show some snippets of the programming procedure :( There are geeks watching Your videos who like to see a little code too :P
I’ll keep this in mind for the next video! I wasn’t aware people could be as nerdy as me 🥸
@AIAddict yes, please do another video detailing the programming procedure for us DYI needs. Thanks so much! 👍
What will be cost for a 75 KW model x to 100 KW battery.
Is it possible to swap small rear induction motor with a Permanent magnet motor?
Cool video but how is it in any way a DIY job?
I wonder if you are able to do this process on a Model 3 RWD 2023 if so could upload a video with prices and specs on what they do, that would be fantastic!!!!! 🙌
Electric back yard mechanics finally coming little by little.
Yes Please!
While it only added 45 miles of range its actually not the range that really gets upgraded when going from 75 to 90kwh. Its the charging speed, or rather the charging speed curve. While they have similar total (0-100%) charge times and similar peak charging speeds while at a supercharger, a 75kwh battery can only maintain its peak charging power for something like 3-5 min before it starts slowing the charge rate. A 90kwh battery can do it for closer to 15min before it starts slowing down. That might not sound like a lot but at a supercharger you are almost never going to charge to 100% so it ends up cutting your average time spent sitting at a supercharger almost in half.
How did the charging speed on the supercharger change?
"we'll let them explain the problems" [just reads the problems] would have been cool to see the process of fixing those issues, even at a higher level. This video wasn't as interesting as it could have been.
The vehicle programming process was conducted by plugging a cord into a laptop. It really wasn't that entertaining of a process. Took a few minutes
@@AIAddict where does one get the software to do the coding?
Did he use a Loki?
@@kathyxi4588 I don’t think they’re gonna tell you it’s probably a trade secret of some sorts. That’s why I didn’t show a lot of dismantling. The battery actually is not that hard but they did make it look hard.
Wish we had a shop like this in the NorthEast :(
You kinda do, lookup Electrified Garage. They should be in the New England region. They often work with TH-camr: Rich Rebuilds
one question if you are going through the hassle of replacing a battery why not put in a 100 or something modified to give even better range
Just imagine if they had a (open) supply chain, that you could order if you meet basic high voltage certification and Tesla specific training.
Just imagine a world where @3:30 was not the only means to have 3rd party service (and supply chain).
Surely that is a beautiful world that we all want (well not musk obviously)
That would be wonderful and it’s what a lot of people and shops are fighting for.
It’s amazing the effort people are willing to go through to still help Tesla owners in the community though.
The whole community right now entirely relays on parting out scrap Tesla’s and working independent of Tesla.
EVS Republic does an incredible job at helping customers who are tired of dealing with the manufacture
@@AIAddict
I think the economics and need is there. You see rebuilders turning profits from buying two salvaged teslas while keeping one working tesla from this. People will jump on this; because the secondary market is so starved for parts.
It would have been nice to see how you disconnected the HV battery pack from the car before lowering the pack from under the Model X
Does the car still have the factory powertrain warranty? I’m curious as 2016 cars should still be covered (unless delivered at a very early date in 2016), and the earlier Model Xs I believe are 2016s
I wish someone would make high C after market batteries so you could do 200+ kw charging on legacy cars. I wonder if the wiring would need to be upgraded to handle high state of charge.
Know any places that can upgrade gen 1 with 2020 tech? Cans, auto pilot ?
Would upgrading the battery through an independent shop like this give Tesla a reason to cancel free lifetime charging? I'm thinking about buying a cheap model X and upgrading the battery.
The company who do this where are they located?
More?
Nice!!!! 💪⚡🔋
Thank you!
Great information. I wonder if i can replace MY2022 LR with newest batteries 2024 to get more range?
How much more range do you think you could get ?
I have a 2013 model s 40kw , how much do you charge for battery swap?
At 7:56 to 8:06, you say that the vehicle now has an updated ideal range of 84 miles? What are you talking about here? A 90D should have a full range of well over 250 miles (yes, those are "tesla" miles that aren't real world miles, but you know what I mean). My guess is that you're showing a battery that isn't fully charged, which doesn't do justice to this fantastic work. Without further explanation, it makes it sound like you're saying that 3/4 of the cells in the new battery pack are cooked. To a Tesla owner, a full range of 84 miles is absolutely horrifying.
Which tool did you use for programming?
Likely Toolbox
Hello, thanks for sharing this video.
Do you know if in Europe there are people that do the same work?
Actually I have a Model X 75D and I would like to upgrade the battery.
Have a good day,
Fabio
I have a feeling tes may attack this vin but maybe steps were taken to prevent this?
I cannot comment too much on this, however yes, it’s been prevented
@@AIAddict excellent! Thats rubbish we have to work around the manufacturer this way.
And, because you showed your VIN Tesla will disable supercharging shortly. Rich Rebuilds warned you.
I’d like to see them try ⚡️🤔
@@AIAddict it’s trivial for them to just take the VIN and ban super charging. They did it to Rich Rebuilds.
This isn’t a guess. Your only hope is that they don’t notice.
@@AIAddict They will if they spot this video. I'd edit out the vin personally
Awesome! Can you do this to my 2015 Model S 70D? I want a 90D! More of this! I am from Sacramento. I would love to be part of this project.
The cost for miles gained isn’t technically the “best” unless you have a degraded battery. However, the service is available in Sacramento. It takes about 5.5 hours of labor + material costs.
Let me know if serious. We could always film it too! Lol
@@AIAddict How much did it cost to go from 75d to 90d?
@@EVtripper You will need to speak for the shop (they are called EVS Republic). The battery we used was already in our possession. I believe in normal situation the battery cost about $9-$10k. However, you might get a discount if you give them your old battery.
Reach out to EVS Republic, tell them AI Addict sent you from TH-cam and see what price they can quote you. I know the labor is about $1,000 plus cost of materials
I have also have a 75D; spoke with Tesla about possibly swapping my battery. I was told the most they would do would be an 85D at a cost of 10K
When upgrading the battery does it require new programming?
Yes
Hmm. I wonder how much more range a Model 3 RWD could get with a long range battery. I'd definitely be interested in doing it.
Probably similar mileage as the mid range version (RWD Long Range)
@@AIAddict From my knowledge, there isn't a Long Range RWD that exists. Or at least not anymore. I believe there used to be though. But I think the LR battery capacity has increased from 75kwh to 82kwh.
75 to 90 is an easy swap, try to install 100 battery in 75, that would be challenge.
Got the gears turning in my head. I have a 2013 S85 and access to a cheap lower mileage 90kwh pack....
Did you level the battery to give the BMS time to update with the new pack? I'm sure you will get more than 45 additional miles after leveling
Why would you get more? The upgrade of the 75 pack to 90 is actually less than 20% in usable capacity. The miles increase inline with the percentage increase.
How did you reprogram the Tesla to say 90d instead of 75d?
The shop won’t allow us to comment on specifics to protect them :/ but all it required was a laptop, a cable and 10 minutes of effort
They rented the Tesla software
This was a pretty simple process tbh
would it be possilbe to do a 100kwh battery sawp in the same car?
Yes
@@AIAddict wow this is great news. So only a battery will be needed for the swap?
@AI Addict Possible but not recommended. Tesla had structural and airbag differences on the 100d due to the increased weight. It is a potential safety issue in an accident.
If I change my battery model x 75D to 100D, will my free unlimited supercharge will remain or it will gone?
That should remain unaffected
So, how much does this cost in the real world? Is it even worth it?
Impressive
Would love to see a 75d to a p100d.
That would be so cool!
100 has a different form factor, don't think it is possible without heavy modifications
@@paulf3353 I believe rich rebuilds did it already. But yeah,some other mods
How much??
Roughly $10k
How much is it ?
Around $11k
@@AIAddict ohh I thought 11k is only for replace the 75kwh battery
Welp, you showed the VIN, no more supercharging for that car
Vehicle still successfully supercharges. Tesla has no way of communicating with this vehicle even if they wanted to. We took precautions
Now make a video upgrading 16 M X that has zero cameras to having all cameras operational and sentry mode ect. !!!!!!
Where is the shop located?
Sacramento California
I'm surprised Tesla doesn't disable the car for going to a third party for a battery replacement.
They will probably try, but nothing they can do
I don’t think they can legally do that. Right to repair law maybe? 🤷🏻♂️ wondering if that applies to cars as well.
PS: The irony of a diesel fork lift instead of an electric one! Just say'in
Never thought about that hahaha
🍩 авто😉
Bye bye warranty
That's a lot of dead Teslas, they must be very reliable lol.
Typical ev hater that is more guided by emotion than logic. The world will evolve with or without you bud. Have you ever been to a junkyard and seen how many ICE vehicles there are? Teslas can end up in salvage due to many reasons besides reliability.
Wait till you learn the battery costs more than the car
Wrong. FUD. TROLL
When you add up your transmission, engine, alternators, drive train, etc. It exceeds the value of your gaser..... go away
Nice1!!! Get to know the secret > *promo sm* !!
Where is this shop at?