Engineering an Automatic CNC Dust-Shoe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- I'm not happy with the dust-shoe that came with my CNC router. So I engineered a much better one. Maybe I went a bit too far because I made it fully automatic and implemented many useful features. The whole thing is a huge project and by no means straightforward. In this video, I take you through the whole process and show every step I went through for tackling this project. In hindsight, I also think about this as an engineering project on easy mode. The reasons for that I explain in the video. I hope you enjoy
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*Compression/ Nesting bits: www.fraisertools.com/en/delta...
*Spiral Upcut roughing bits (with chip breaker): www.fraisertools.com/en/charl...
*Conical Spiral Upcut ballnose bits: www.fraisertools.com/en/zeta-...
*Spiral Upcut ball nose bits: www.fraisertools.com/en/omega...
*Bit set: www.fraisertools.com/en/boss-...
Content:
0:00 Introduction
1:10 Why?
5:48 Design
7:43 Manufacturing
9:08 Assembly
23:05 Making the Brush
27:48 Electronics
32:16 First Movement
32:45 Setup and Clearance
34:40 Air Nozzle
36:27 Testing
38:37 Conclusion
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Level of precision and complexity of this project: G E R M A N
Russians would probably just tape a leafblower to the side. :)
@@Marcuslobenstein a diesel leafblower
Rofl
@@Marcuslobenstein lmao
@@Marcuslobenstein Americans would by the DEWALt Turbo Dustsucker 5564D4 with integrated Bluetooth App
I was a design cost engineer, a designer’s worst nightmare, a devil’s advocate. Every engineer will design a ‘Rolls Royce’, but to make a product saleable the costs must be kept down. That said you are a magnificent engineer and FELDER should be paying you a consultant’s retainer fee. Best regards.
The design cost argument is winnable here because it is an objectively better product, which is absolutely in line with e.g. Felder and Festool business models. Factor in the liability angle where any dust is increasingly seen as a health problem plus potential for containment of milling bits breaking off and you have a good case in the real world, beyond the enclave of cost accounting.
There will need to be rules for not using it on heads with any additional pitch or roll axis, but that will need a multi-axis dust shoe too.
Ron - being an engineer and designer for the last 28 years, I don't view you as "our worst nightmare" You're the voice of reason that keeps us on the straight and narrow. I'd like to think of our jobs as two fingers in a glove, without eachother, there would be massive problems.
I much prefer that he (as well as the other people like him youtube producing great stuff) isn't on the payroll of any company related to the content of his videos, though obviously not because I don't wish Marius all the success in the world.
I mean, I don't think he's directly on their payroll, but they do give him tools from time to time. I think this CNC is one of them.
I don't know whether You agree, but I as an engineer out in the field for three decades plus change (mostly boat building and tunnel industry machinery), I wish every cost controller and original designer had to do repair work out in the field on rainy/snowy December days shortly before sunset with "cost controlled" tooling on "cost controlled" machinery and a buncha cost controllers the customer chased on his heels *_before_* they were allowed to design even a single screwed connection ......
Wow! 'The drag chain was not big enough so I printed my own - and improved the design...' ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! How did you develop such an amazing brain for things like this? I personally can think outside the box - but you think outside the suburb! Absolutely amazing. Inspiring me to add another dimension to my projects. An honour to watch your brain at work Marius. Heck, you even have legends like John Heisz commenting and watching.
Just because of that ending, I would have subscribed. But I can't. I already am.
Same here 😁
Excellent work and also the points at the end (40 minutes flew by) where you mention the practicality of the improvement with regard to cost. So many will see something like this and say the manufacturer should have it built in, but then probably wouldn't be willing to pay the extra cost for the upgrade even if it was done in the most cost effective way.
Thanks John!
John - the sad thing is that the manufacturer will probably steal it and integrate it into the design - without doing the right thing and purchasing the design from Marius. I remember Craftsman stealing the Bionic Wrench, or Black and Decker stealing the Workmate Workbench literally 10 minutes after the inventor pitched the idea to them (I happen to know the inventor.) It's total BS.
@@TheSpud1129 No, the truly sad thing is that you and so many other people think that way. Manufacturers don't need to "steal" ideas like this, despite the two examples (out of billions) you hold up to prove the rule.
@@JohnHeisz well some Manufactures certainly are not above idea theft, it is kind of the spirit of engineering. Taking ideas you see from something and using them in a different way that suits the requirements of a given project. Maybe its like music, everything has already been written or invented we just mix it up and call it new. Either way this video as you said flew by. I would think this would lead to more job offers then people who want to steal his ideas.
@@JohnHeisz John - not saying that they all do steal ideas, but - the sad thing is that some do. I'd hate to be the Inventor of the Bionic Wrench, go to a sales pitch meeting (totally legit) with Craftsman to pitch the idea, be told that it isn't practical - and then have them reproduce it INSTANTLY after I left. I'd like to imagine that he's doing ok for himself - but to have unlimited funds and the speed to mass-produce very quickly - with zero repercussions or fear of getting sued - would be a major kick in the balls.
I've been in the industry now for 27 going on 28 years, and there was a time in my life where I was directed to "modify" someones idea that was pitched to my employer. Naturally, I refused...and they gave the project to someone else to complete. It happens a lot more than you could imagine.
Being an engineer, designer, woodworker, hobbyist, I do take pride in engineering and designing components and ideas from scratch, and I take great pride in the fact that I can appreciate you and so many others on YT for your original and practical content. I've purchased quite a few plans from you (you along with Izzy, Marius, Frank and Matthias are my top 5.) Thanks for commenting and having dialogue. That's what makes it a better community and space to engage.
As an engineer who has long been out of school, I know projects like this are important for the journey, not the destination. Well done!
OMFG Marius! That"s no longer, just a piece of machinery, but a true WORK OF ART!
This is just magnificent engineering, I hope the company that makes this CNC watches this
I agree. That was an easy engineering project. You should have seen me when i was glueing up my vegetable peeler's handle.
I love how Rube Goldberg you went with making that metal ring. I was expecting you to just tape it down to a board (or screw it down through the middle and leave a couple of tabs) and CNC it.
Wirklich beeindruckend! Genau wegen solchen Projekten gibt es keinen TH-camr, auf dessen Videos ich mich so sehr freue!
Auf jeden Fall. Immer wieder eine große Freude
this is looking to flawlessly integrated in the machine that it looks like an addition of the manufacturer.
58 seconds in and this is already awesome!
You stole my line...ha!
The smooth curves of your printed parts are absolutely beautiful. Your mechanical design is truly impressive!
Thanks! I just hate sharp edges on 3D prints and the fillet tool is so simple to use
Voided your warranty with additions the manufacturer should incorporate into their product with a per-machine licensing fee. You've saved Hammer significant design time and offered a them a premium upgrade for their future sales. This is an excellent design with fab work. Also your video content is well written, has quality audio, well edited and presented. Could not have been better. Thank you from Colorado.
Also Deine Fähigkeiten - auch wenn man Deine Familie mit bedenkt - echt grandios - Beneidenswert. Ich würde gerne nur einen Teil Deiner Fähigkeiten haben!
Und Du machst auch die Beschreibung Deiner Projekte wirklich sehr sehr gut!!
Awesome design. I really like the highly integrated motor mount. You should find a friend with a plasma cutter or water jet so you can avoid the lathe shenanigans to make that metal ring (though I probably would have done the same thing as you ;)
Thanks man! A plasma cutter would've definitely saved a couple hours. Time to convert my old CNC into one
@@MariusHornberger I can't wait to see the design. You are so talented...
especially in the CAD department.
Felder should purchase the rights to your boot and adapt it to their 2.2kw spindle version.
I was wondering, why you didn't use the CNC for the ring. Should be capable of getting through the thin metal
@@joseppedaia3673 the force from the spindle would rip the ring to pieces
@@nicholaslaines2702 how so? Serious question
You are a very clever lad, you make me feel inadequate ha ha. Keep up the good work.
I didnt watch the video because i liked the idea, also not because i need something similar.... also not because you put in a baiting thumbnail .... NO! Just because i am happy we have such "young" people in germany still doing something, engineering, building, working and creating .... You did, again, a really well job. All the explanation and filming ... definetly worth a subscription and thumbs up! GO ON LIKE THIS ! Great Video!
In this episode, Marius singlehandedly while thoroughly shows "en passant" what the world is talking about when "german overengineering" comes up in any conversation whatsoever worldwide .....
For me as a German and an engineer, that basically is the essence of my professional core: You tweak it when it does not *_exactly_* what You intend it to do in the beginning/after purchase; You tweak it more to make sure it does *_everything_* You might need it doing whenever, where ever, in whatever circumstances You can imagine, and then You tweak it still a little more to make sure it does all that plus two more things Your neighbour/spouse/mechanic/kids contributed ........
I am loving it.
Thanks for being a real true German (capital G) engineer, Marius, and thanks for sharing!
If the OEM of that machine doesn't recruit you immediately, they are crazy. VERY well done!!!
You’re my new favorite TH-cam maker.
1:56 is one of the best shots I've seen in a woddworking video
I would love to see a collaboration between Marius and Jeremy Schmidt. The possibilities would be limitless.
I can ask him. Maybe we find a project
You said it, G Bruce! Dare I mention Cosmas Bauer too?
(I do not mean it in a way, like trying to find a young "prize - fighter". Just hoping that people like these can have an enriching experience together. And if enough elements align, we may all have more Joy. 😀
ok finally over。now I need to watch it again。
I do industrial maintenance and worked a plastics manufacturer for several years. We had a bunch of 4 spindle routers and even they didn't have smart vacuum like this. Just "short" or "tall" settings and they got trashed ALL THE TIME.
Your setup is very smart and you could probably license it to router companies like Northwoods, Komo, etc.
You tried to cover all the issues with this design. Great job sir. I wish I had your intelligence. You work this out to perfection.
16:58 Those little clamps....I enjoy your humor.
Geil Marius, eigentlich wollte ich noch Drag Chains für meine bald ankommende Sorotec Compact Line selber erstellen in Fusion aber deine sind genau das was ich im Kopf hatte! Und natürlich mega starkes Projekt!!
Freut mich. Kannst mir ja Rückmeldung geben, wenn du die Teile gedruckt hast ob sie auch gut funktionieren
I am no engineer but I learned so much useful information from this project, and the length was perfect, without a wasted word. Bravo!
Lieber Marius, ich bin 36 Jahre alt , selbständig in der IT und Elektronik Branche.
Du hast mir eine Motivation-Schub gegeben. Bin per Zufall auf deinem Kanal gestoßen und muss sagen, dass du ein intelligenter Ingenieure bist.
Danke fürs Teilen
The 3d printing clip where the printer head is in the same position was really enjoyable to watch.
Congrats. You are the first TH-camr to ever mount a limit switch correctly! :-)
Well Impressed! Over & above the call of duty! I'm glad that you spoiled yourself! You can now look forward to using this CNC machine with pleasure & enjoy it every time! Well Done!
This was great! Well explained and extremely well thought out!
Thanks man!
Unbelievable amount of work and thought that went into the design. I could not believe that you even thought to make a recess for the hose wire, that is just brilliant in it's simplicity. The brain of an engineer for sure.
Mal auf deutsch, weil die Ausdrucksweise und Formulierung so wesentlich besser ist.
Ich habe selber erst vor kurzem meinen Bachelor im Maschinenbau abgeschlossen und kann daher nachvollziehen, was du da getan hast und was es für ein Aufwand war. Schwer beeindruckend und wirklich ein geniales Projekt. Was du am Ende angesprochen hast, ist auch der Grund, warum die Maschine aus meiner BA nie gebaut werden wird, es lohnt sich einfach nicht. Aber der Professor wollte nur ne Lösung und sagte auch, dass sie gerne utopisch sein darf. Der ganze Aspekt der Kostenanalyse wird einem erst dann wirklich bewusst, wenn man selber drin steckt.
Danke für deinen tollen Content und ich freue mich auf jedes Video, besonders die mit so viel Maschinenbauhintergrund.
Very nice work. I went a similar but different route on the vertical adjustment side of things. ("Sweet Dreams CNC") RC model type servo, switch and springs. The lightweight springs and gravity hold the shoe in the down position on the work piece regardless of the depth of cut. For tool changes, the RC hobby servo via a lever activated by a switch moves the shoe up out of the way to let you change tools. Your solution is nicely "over engineered". (A high form of compliment! :-)
Thanks. That's a much simpler solution. Sounds also similar to what StepCraft has done. If I'd do it again, I'd probably also go with this simpler approach
This is without a doubt in the 99th percentile in terms of quality on here.
Thanks for the video.
It helped me in my Wintergatan deprivation.
Martin also posted his video
Great work
Incredible! One of the most impressive things I've ever seen! You should be building starships or time machines or something. Dang!
any thing is possible with enough time effort and a little mad scientist thrown in , once again great upgrades,,,
That is a seriously well engineered addition to your CNC machine. It even looks like a professional product and not something hacked on with duct tape!
Marius is a really created person. I think Hammer (Felder-group) should be aware of this modification, and have it to they CNC machine.
Especially the really nice cable-thing he built. Love the clips, much nicer and smoother solution than the old solution.
That assembly animation are top notch. 👍
Wonderful work! Thanks for taking the time to share your process.
Super satisfying watching that all come together!
Amazing engineering and real fun video as well. Great job!
Congratulations Marius. Very good job.
Excellent job, well thought out and beautifully executed
Your attention to detail is amazing. Thank you!
@ 26:46 that hose was like ''you aint putting any woodscrews near me!! baang '' ... Great job and video
This was awesome Marius! Amazing engineering! Loved the length of the video too, very detailed and engaging.
VERY impressive! Every detail is such a perfect fit. Great job.
pls make a vid on how and where you learned to speak such perfect English? your English is better than most English people I meet in London, and I'm speaking as an Englishman. a true joy to listen to your technical explanations, and even subtle inflections, hats off marius, ty for all your diligence and care. ty
Thanks! It all just came from practice through my videos and watching lots of english content. Other than that I never really speak English
@@MariusHornberger ty from a 73 Yr old londoner
Marius, this is engineering at its finest. Beautiful work.
Great work as always Marius and a pleasure to watch the way you work and your thought process to achieve your goal. I absolutely understand the enjoyment you got from this, as sometimes the most tedious task can be most enjoyable. Keep up the great work. I also got some great inspiration from this for my machine, thanks.
stunning work
Awesome idea Marius, very well executed!! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, excellent work!
This is a great reminder to make sure I do things right on my design projects.
Utterly brilliant. I totally get the part about the big part of it being the process not just the result. :)
It was a pure and utter delight to watch your process and successes! What a wonderful project and VIDEO. Your ending was precious.
That is a beautiful solution. I love it. Well done!
What a great production. Funny, simple, precise. A great job. Like it a lot!
Unexpectedly one of the coolest projects I've seen.
What an awesome overengineering masterpiece. Keep on rocking!!
Glad to see you making videos again 👍🏻
VERY interesting project. As always, well done and professional. Really enjoy your content. Thanks for your efforts in sharing with us.
What a beautiful piece of engineering and great to see how you made it.
Outstanding work Marius! It is easy to see that a tremendous amount of thought and work went into this project and you should be very proud of creating this add-on to your CNC! You continue to amaze me with your creativity and cleverness. I admire you and always enjoy watching you create! Great Job as always. Thanks for taking us along for the process, very interesting!
This whole project is brilliant. Really nice job.
I love your videos!! I found the channel like a week ago and its been up there with my most watched since then. So satisfying, mesmerizing, inspiring, well edited, well thought out, high quality, honest and funny. Thank you for your content please don't stop!
Well done Marius! I agree with your sentiment at the end. The amazing end product aside, it is the problem solving, the learning, the knowledge gained from going through all the motions that is perhaps the greatest prize. Very inspirational stuff.
This cool dust cover overcomes factory ones.. Great idea and excellent job was done!
Thanks for video! 👍
Excellent project - you had fun making it!
(And I enjoyed watching the video.)
this is absolutely outstanding! I love your detailed explanation
What a fine upgrade to the mill!
Hey, Thanks for the wrap-up in the end. Honestly, it was interesting to see you evaluate your design from a product development point of view.
Amazing video!
Lots of skills I'm trying to develop being used masterfully! I will be coming back to this video often as a guide for how to structure my ambitious projects!
This is real engineering. Well done 😎👍
I don't want to be annoying, in any way, but I think, a cost reduction can be done her, by replacing the motor and all the electronics for the brush, with a "spring & gravity" solution 🤓
I enjoy your videos because you talk through the good and the bad, and you give lots of details! Your work is detailed and turns out so well in form and function.
This is very impressive and the passion you did put into this is remarkable. Well done.
A very impressive build which you explained very clearly. Thank you for walking through your development process.
I am fully impressed by your effort and ingenuity!
Marius, this is pure genious! So well done!
An enjoyable journey through the design, problem solving and fabrication process with a great end result - bravo!
Amazing! Didn't even notice when 40 minutes flew by.
Love the attention to details, and how neat everything looks.
Marius, this was outstanding!! I have no idea what you do for a living but it should be designing. Your projects are always so well thought out. Also, I like that you show the problems that occur and then the multiple solutions that you try (very realistic). I'm looking forward to your next project.
Congratulations - what a great construction and documentation! Keep on talking!
Amazing work, Marius!
You are amazing. I'm glad to support you on Patreon so you can continue to innovate. Keep up the great work.
Awesome design and result. Thank you for sharing all the complexities. 👍👍😎👍👍
genius ...you are really an impressive engineer.
Really impressive work Marius!
This is amazing Marius!!! Great job!!!
Very well thought out and wonderfully over engineered dustpan and brush 😉Great work!
You are a genius. I love watching your problem solving. Such great work
You really nailed the features necessary!
Thank you for taking me down that rabbit hole. It was an experience.
Wow. Amazing work. You have serious skills. Thanks for sharing the process.
wow... that time flew by. never expected a dust collection system to be that intriguing!