Breath of the Wild's Big Secret - Zelda Theory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is hiding a big secret, both in the game and in its development team.
In this Zelda Theory, we explore it in-depth!
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Is director Hidemaro Fujibayashi responsible for the Timeline as we know it and Breath of the Wild's confusing Timeline mess? And will it all be solved in Breath of the Wild 2 with the biggest climax in the series? RUN DEBATE!
tha was a very awsome video , though i have certain theories to tell about breath of wild placement in time line
now when it come to ocarina of time , it is said that it has a diffrent ending which happen in down fall time line when link is defeated by ganondorf , but in which point of time did that happen , some people say it is when ganondorf did his transformation with triforce of power to fight link , but i heard a theory say that is on that cutscene when ganon attack child link with magic attack , leaving link injured and defeated , with zelda watching while impa is taking her away , and than use ocarina of time sending link to a point of time where he is safe , which could be why he had that dream of seeing ganon before navi is waking him up to see deku tree , which makes down fall time line probably zelda original time line
also when aonuma were asked about breath of wild place in the time line he said :
I wouldn't say that it obviously fits into any one part of the timeline, but if you play the game, you'll be able to work out where it fits. As you probably saw in the trailer, the most recent trailer, there's a woman's voice, and she says: "The history of the royal family of Hyrule is also the history of the Calamity Ganon." And as you know, the Zelda series, up until now, is a history of repeated attacks by Ganon. So, there's food for thought there. I don't want to say anything more as I'd like players to work it out for themselves, to play the game and see what they think."
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means that the game takes place in a branch of the timeline where Ganon attacks several times. In both the Child and Adult timelines, Ganon only attacks once, leaving only the Fallen Hero timeline. Another big tell is that in the Downfall timeline, Hyrule is in a constant state of rising to a glorious golden age only to be demolished by the resurgence of Ganon. This fits exactly into what happens during the events of BotW. Lastly, only in the Fallen Hero timeline is the complete Triforce consistently held by the Royal Family , we see the complete Triforce used by Zelda at the climax of the storyline
but that's just a theory , and thank you for this awsome video
Just wait for the fill in games if their are after Breath of the Wild 2. There should be some and it should br no surprise
If Breath of the Wild 2 is the result of all the timelines converging, and if time travel becomes an option (either through gameplay elements or just for story purposes), I hope that in the final battle of the game, BotW Link becomes overwhelmed by BotW Ganondorf, but then several other past Links come to aid BotW Link in the final climatic showdown
Honestly, this theory feels like a Halo tier reach. I feel like they will try to hold back a lot of nostalgia on this one and focus more on the newer lore, with the only thing being brought back is dorf himself
A fitting conclusion would this Link and Zelda traveling time, or spirit planes, to embrace every other incarnations skill and knowledge. All this, forged in their love for each other, slay the monster once in for all. Systematically work your way through time killing Ganon at each major milestone, taking his power for Links. Once Link has all Ganon's power, you release Demise from the sword and kill him too. Then Link and Zelda get married and have cute babies.
Imagine being on the team that brainstorms ideas of a new The Legend of Zelda story…that would be so much fun.
dream job!!!
*Breath of the Wild’s big secret*
Which one??
It's a secret to everybody.
Ganon Dragmire Hey, so uh... how’s that Dark World Treating ya?
@@justaguy2182 ...It's a secret even to me.
@Jay Mel I like to think that at the end of the downfall timeline when Link saves the sleeping Zelda, she then uses the Triforce to gift her ancestors of the past with prophetic dreams and they would be able to spot the curse of Demise when it appears to ensure that the downfall timeline wouldn't happen again.
Umm-
The secret is zelda didn't use her sealing power on purpose so mipha could die and she wouldn't have any competition
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I can’t help but feel that we’re waiting so long for the Nintendo Direct because Nintendo want to show as much content from Breath of the Wild 2 as possible, and of course they needed time to work on it. I really hope Breath of the Wild 2 will be the main focus of the next Nintendo Direct. I also hope we won’t have to wait until June to see it.
With the virus screwing everything up, I'd imagine we will have to wait. Maybe even longer then June. Unless they simply just release it online, keep Nintendo Direct a online thing.
@kekoapono I hope you’re right
This comment makes me sad today
I feel like breath of the wild and its sequel will be the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. The end of the split timeline, and the beginning of a merged one.
Sure, but I hope they are still able to create and experiment with wildly different zelda games that aren't weighed down and limited by previous events. ultimately I want them to make great games, then worry about a consistent timeline years later when they are in "let's do some bs timeline" mode like they did with the current timeline.
In a way, breath of the wild 2 actually proves to be in the twilight princess timeline. Ayanuma said he highly reccomends people to play twilight princess while you wait for breath of the wild 2 to be finished.
@@appletherapy3492 here's the thing, it's really tough to put it and it's prequel in one singular timeline because of all of the references to everything else. Doesn't matter if it has more references to one timeline than the others, you have to explain how there are things like rock salt from a great sea scattered over the land and lynels from the lands of a fallen Hero of Time coexist with Majora's Mask
AdmiralSnakbar2 Exactly
@GAMEBomb123 nope, not that I'm aware of
I love the Legend of Zelda Universe. Talking theory in this universe gives me the same feeling of when we were all talking theories about Shadow of the Colossus. The game has that eerie feeling to it. Breath of the Wild at least gives me that feeling, wandering in a world that is a shadow of itself. Exploring ruins of a once thriving civilization…especially when I came across Castletown, recalling what it was once like.
Is it just me or does hero of time hair without the hat look really cool?
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It does
Breath of the Wild 2 will most likely give the series a soft ending, but by no means be the end of the franchise.
Yeah, i agree. And if BotW is at the end, then the timeline would be rupee shaped. Not that it matters, just a small little fact.
Plus, i think Nintendo would make many more Zelda's game. Personally, I would love something like Breath of the Wild with a little bit of darkness like Twilight Princess
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Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess have done so much to introduce darkness into the series, that I cannot think of any other way for BOTW2 to be darker other than Link perishing (on screen) at the hands of Ganondorf; leaving Zelda to deliver the killing blow, and alone for the rest of her reign as queen.
All of the Champions of Hyrule perished at the hands of Ganon, except one.
@@highiqkong7419 wow, now that's dark. I hope the franchise doesn't go down that road
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I hope so for 2 reasons:
> Players will finally be able to play as the princess post-game. But the cost / reasoning is something emotionally tangible to the fan base, rather than a "back of the box" feature tacked on for good boy points. Think Red Dead Redemption.
> Once fans finally get their fix on another dark Zelda title, the franchise can go back to a Wind Waker / Link Between Worlds-style of joyful adventure; which I find to be the most fun out of the series.
@@highiqkong7419 i means link pretty much died in botw, so it isnt that crazy tbh
Never thought I’d see Oblivion footage in a Zelda theory video.
I loved Hyrule Warriors, but the idea of it “fixing” the timeline is kinda silly because it has a ton of characters from different games. I have nothing against it, it was tons of fun and so satisfying to be able to slice up millions of bokoblins in Zelda style, but I hope that a Zelda game fixes the timeline in the future.
CecDog3 hyrule warriors is not cannon though. It didn't fix anything
deldante it would fix the timeline if it was cannon is what I’m saying
I love the story of Skyward Sword, the gameplay was quite finicky but that can be attributed to how the Wii didn’t have motion controls perfected. I would love to meet the man behind the amazing story of that game.
I'm sure the new game won't be the last game, in fact I'm almost positive, but I still knkw it'll be great anyways.
they never said last game, they said conclusion
@@emanueleperagallo9864 Oh, that makes more sense. Yeah, then I could see it being the end of the timeline, as long as they continue to make more Zelda games.
@@tannersmith1454 i don't think Nintendo will ever stop making Zelda games
Could still be a nice conclusion for the timeline, given how far down along the line it is
there cant be a last game my life would END
I remember being quite excited when I heard Fujibayashi would have the reins on Skyward Sword back in the day, as up until then Minish Cap was my favourite Zelda.
What if! The hero from the original calamity was GANONDORF, trying to brake the cursed cycle of Zelda, Link and him self. WHAT IF! He realized the cycle was starting again, contacted the royal family, and tried to stop the curse TOGETHER! And that's why you see a hero with long RED hair... But then something went wrong. And the curse took over GANONDORF. And fail safes were activated and he was sealed with that hand.. and that is why he was able to take control of the guardians the and the Devine beasts the second time around.. because he already knew about them...
theres more in my head.. let me know if you have any questions.
I want to hear more
I have a darker theory to add on: what if instead of them trying to work together, the hyrule family and the sheikah saw this opportunity (when ganondorf came to them) to capture ganondorf and use him as a power source for hyrule. They put all the malice into ganondorf and hid him away under the castle to convert him to energy, but the malice got too strong and the sheikah understood this before he blew up, so they prepared. Ganondorf, still captivated, had to live on through calamity ganon. This would also explain why the yiga refuse to utilize the technology the sheiks have
Well, I can see why Ganondorf would do that. Ganondorf isn't exactly evil, it's just that his hatred for the Hylians and Demise's curse leads him down the path of a villain. But this theory just doesn't seem right. Ganondorf's character has always had one key trait, he is a megalomaniac. Ganondorf is obsessed with power, it's his main driving force. In Ocarina of Time, he wanted to take over Hyrule for his people but in the end, he kept the Guerodo in the desert while he oppressed the other races. In Wind Waker, he wanted to bring back Hyrule and possibly rebuild his tribe, but he wanted to rule it all. All over Ganondorf's plans ideals, no matter how noble they are, are about him obtaining power. I don't think it's in Ganondorf to want to remove himseld from the cycle when it already gives him power over dark magic. Also, it couldn't be Ganondorf in the tapestry because this hero is wielding the Master Sword, which can only be wielded by Link and Zelda.
@@ashykinz5162 Here's my theory: The royal family of Hyrule knew about the curse, or at least they noticed the pattern of a princess and a hero fighting together to save Hyrule. When they hear that a new Gerudo male has been born, they realize that Hyrule will soon enter a period of conflict again. To prevent this, they wait until Ganondorf became an adult and had the Shiekah deal with him. They lure Ganondorf into a trap, and force him into a state of mummification, while at the same time harnessing the power of his soul to keep him weak. This leads to them extracting his spirit energy to create their technology, advancing the kingdom to heights never seen before and creating the Guardians to defend the kingdom.
@@elitegamer9310 How can you be so sure it was actually the master sword on the tapestry? The sword's shape looks more like the golden claymore.
Hopefully botw 2 more difficult and gives more enemie diversities and more attack patterns
the biggest question: why didn’t they leave a ton of high power weapons and armor in the shrine of resurrection for link to use right away
They wanted to test him.
True. They could’ve at least left him a half decent outfit
Lol the game will always start at three hearts
Heart Donor not saying they could have given him hearts or anything that doesn’t make sense he’s naturally weak after being in slumber for 100 years but they could’ve left him swords and shields and armor to wear though obviously that would break the game it’s just more of a joke than anything at all
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What a great birthday present! Thank you.
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Happy birthday!!! And also, today is two of my friends birthdays!!!!!!
I've been saying for three years that botw is a post-dragonbreak hyrule. Finally someone believes me :')
a theme of traveling through the different timelines would be FUN it puts a new meaning to time trae instead of reseting time or traveling between last and future it would be traveling to the different eras i would love to be able to play as link in the sequel but fight alongside the other links that would be fun and fourth wall breaking
I don't see breath of the wild 1 & 2 as being the end of the story, just the end of Ganon/Ganondorf's part in it.
LainK1978 but as the curse states; if Link’s spirit is being reincarnated so will Demise’s
@@markusdied5569 That doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be Ganondorf. We could see a new incarnation of Demise's curse.
Ganon will stay ganondorf has passed
The end of ganandorf saga?
@@elitegamer9310 I mean I'm all for a never ending continuation of this universe, but where will it end? Not the games itself but Link and Zelda's story. The game is called The Legend of Zelda, so i don't think it could work without Zelda and Link.
Most likely I think we'll see what you said, but one day I think something big will change in this universe. A fresh new story of a new character.
This was an amazing video!
I am as excited as can be for the sequel, if this game confirms the convergence theory and ends the Demise saga in a satisfactory fashion, I will be extatic!
The dragon break could also explain how the zora and the rito exist at the same time
Lost woods song in botw:exists
TH-camrs:it's a master piece
I love skyward sword twilight princess and breath of the wild so very much
Skyward sword is my number one favorite
Skyward is amazing. For myself breath of the wild takes the cake…there's just something about stumbling across places in BOTW that appeared in older TLOZ games and they're ancient sites in BOTW. It gives the game this eerie atmosphere.
skyward sword had a good way for the origins of many things in the series,Twilight Princess is overall a good game in terms of story, and Breath of the Wild is the #1 in every thing except bosses
And just when I thought everyone had forgotten about the Oracle games, here comes Nayru's Theme to take me back about 15 years.
In BOTW2, I really hope Gannon is as hard to beat as a Dark Souls boss. Pretty much the polar opposite as what we got in BOTW1. It would help make for an epic ending.
Brandon P see i think why they won’t do this is knowing nintendo that will seem to difficult a necessity to beating the game for their main demographic; children. that aside i do see them bringing in a deeper level of difficulty
@ Markus Died - yeah, pretty much. I’ll have to settle for master mode, with only three hearts and no armor.
@@The-Vitruvian-Man you must have an enthralling social life, if you play the games this way. Yikes.
Tyler Blanco - Wanting a challenge in a video game has nothing to do with a social life. That is shockingly bad logic. Think, man. Think.
i knew you were gonna name drop "the dragon break" once you mentioned elder scrolls lmao
I'm calling it, BOTW is a trilogy
Obviously not the end of the timeline but maybe, MAYBE, the end of Ganondorf/Ganon.
I wonder what could be next if that is the case. Maybe the return of Demise?
@@keplerthe3399 I think they should create a new main villain after Ganondorf, using Demise's curse of course. Maybe let the Gerudo rest a little and use other race for the next antagonist, a Zora or even a Hylian.
@@rayoup11 Yeah It would be interesting if the next incarnation of this curse was a Hylian. It would be a twist if the next incarnation of Zelda has a brother who was corrupted by the curse. A dark prince that takes the throne for himself or something..
@@keplerthe3399 maybe because he’d be jealous that his sister gets all the attention and a special power
The first time I gotta good look at breath of the wild and saw all the past game lore, I just had a feeling that it was meant to be a convergence of all the Zelda timelines.
Skyward Sword itself creates two timelines though.
A timeline where demise is sealed, and another where demise is destroyed instead of being sealed.
Stories end, however lines do not. Lines go on forever in both directions.
This video is the first that actually convinced me that the "dragonbreak" approach could actually be a beautiful thing for the Zelda franchise, as contradictory as it may be.
This is sure to be the toughest battle in Zelda, if this truly being the final game for Ganondorf Dragmire.
Really good theory but I am not ready for an end to the timeline. Zelda has been in my life for 3 decades.
Happy New Year’s everyone it’s 2021 and we get breath of the wild two yay!
There isn't, and never will be, a better video game villain than Ganondorf... I really don't think that the series will have a huge "closure" or anything like it, however this second game will tell the story that will start new conventions and new things happening for the future. Making this new game the final battle between Ganon/Ganondorf/Demise vs Link and Zelda would be crazy since there is so much potential for this "battle" to scale up. I could argue that the battle existed always, even before Demise's time, it just wasn't well established as three key players. I believe this game will just be the intro to the new things happening and conclude what BotW missed; they'll explore and add new lore, create an even better gameplay aaaaaaaaand, most importantly, make everyone in the community really happy (I'm so anxious to see new trailers or just new info regarding the development of this game that damn... can't hold it anymore...)
The MAIN thing I really want is for them to explore the lore, and do it well. Let’s be honest, they just sorta let the fans decide the lore and how X got to Y and why Z is ALSO there. I’d also love a bit of fan service, sorta like the amiibos in BOTW, but hopefully NOT behind a paywall. I think I trust Fujibiyashi, though, and I hope the story is everything we hope it to be.
As sum1 who has been a fan since the original came out in 1986/87,&has played each and every installment in the series and beaten them all, I will say that I believe after BOTW2 comes out,we will no longer have Zelda games that jump around in any timeline. I believe that from here on out,every Zelda game made will be in a chronological order.
One Zelda game I would want would be like a four swords thing, but, called Three Heros. Have the heros of the fallen timeline, the child Timeline and the future timeline. I know it would be hard story wise but I would love to see something like that, like Hyrule Warriors where diffrent timelines were opened and such.
Ok... this sounds epic. Although I certainly don't want this to be the last one, the way you told it has everything leading up to this point; the whole journey of creating The Legend of Zelda, from the nes days to skyward sword to breath of the wild, it's all lead to this moment, the climax of the series. I can't wait for this game!
Either Aonuma or Fujibayashi have read the "REPUBLIC", one of the many books of ancient Greek philosopher Plato written 2400 years ago. I have read it once and changed my life. It speaks of Justice and the Human Soul.
They kinda said all of that in not so many words. They mention that the curse placed by Demise was broken so that Ganon could have more power and finally win. Meaning that no matter what this conflict is for keeps. Their is no reincarnation for any of them, the natural end to the Legend. The creators have outright said this is the end of all timelines. You could take that as some Dragon Break equivalent or that no matter what timeline events happen this final struggle was destined to happen.
I think that btw 2 will end the timeline and the btw serise. Then it will go onto the future and make the new game, centries in the future, and keep making them. They might make a btw 3 though, but those are my thoughts.
Breath Of The Wild is a START of a NEW TIMELINE
Thanks commonwealth you guys rock!
THANK YOU! I feel like everyone just dismisses the merged timeline theory. "It doesn't make sense" The Zelda timelines never made sense. And Nintendo has wanted to fix it for a long time.
BOTW 2 being an the Epilogue of the Zelda Story... I don't think so, at least not yet. Maybe if they knew they were going to do a sequel in the storyboarding phase.
Maybe the Sequel to BOTW 2? There wasn't enough set up I feel. Like, I didn't feel like this was as high stakes as Skyward Sword, if that makes sense.
What does the end of the timeline entail? Is it just the end of the Ganon/Demise saga? Do they reboot the series from scratch? Do they just start going backwards in the timeline? Either way, I’m sure Nintendo isn’t going to stop making Zelda games anytime soon.
If they try struggling to connect lore points from skyward sword into an actual plot line - Jesus freaking Christ help us
I’m hoping that in BOTW 2, Link gets tasked to travel back in the time and fix the timeline. For example he travels to Ocarina of Time and interacts with that era’s Link and Zelda. Once fixed he would then have to interact in A Link to the Past and so forth. By fixing the time line he is able to merge “fix” the timeline which allows him to finally destroy Ganon and lift the curse.
so thats why fi makes an appearance in botw? because of this mans storytelling?
In my opinion, there is no big secret to how or why BoTW ends up being placed at the end of all timelines. I think they took an artistic license to add as much as they wanted to without their hands being tied because of the “Timeline”, so they did what they wanted (and the result was stunning), and slapped it at the end. To me, it was a great idea, there are still games that can be put in other Timelines, and now they have created a new one by putting BoTW at the end. The possibilities are endless where they can go from here. They literally created a way to keep the series going forever by merging all the timelines.
Wow, well, this actually made me feel better about ToTK... most exciting argument for a positive outcome and you did this THREE years ago!
So basically Breath of the Wild 2 is gonna be the Avengers: Endgame of Zelda.
COUNT ME IN!
Anyone else notice that the glowing stones in the botw 2 trailer kind of look like activated timestones?
7:36 Unless you bring in Hyrule Warriors where the timelines are quite literally merged because of that alternate reality equal of Ganon.
But seriously, it would explain how so many aspects were inter-connecting.
The Yiga are like the “Ninja” clan of Termina who they themselves mirror the Interlopers/Twili of Twilight Princess. It would explain how tales of the Terminian Goron Chiefs made it to Hyrule (outside of Link spreading their stories). Etc.
Also i’m now starting to wonder if the Lokomo had any inspiration from the sheikah given their technological know-how which helped evolve their world as well.
Hyrule Warriors doesn't really work that well as a merger for the timeline. If you are getting this theory from the Game Theory video, then I suggest watching NintendoBlackCrisis' and HMK's videos on why the theory doesn't work.
I always liked the timeline split, but i hope if they're merging it all together they explain it somehow, maybe bring back Vaati as some inter-dimensional being who sought to destroy the cycle by destroying the world one timeline at a time, which is the main reason for time travel to be in BOTW 2 and how they merged timelines?
Everyone when wind waker was released: this game is terrible!
Everyone now: Wind Waker is gotyey
Dude.... I just watched the Poland geography now video and was like....WAIT A MINUTE.....how do you now barbs? Never thought some of my favorite channels knew each other
How can the Zelda saga end in BOTW2? for some endgame like that, it must have a lot of things for that to happen
Its very interesting how Wind Waker wasnt liked just enough for that to get to Nintendo. Now everyone loves the game a lot. I remember I just didnt like the artwork for the game as a kid but I still enjoyed the game.
Imagine if in breath of the wild 2 link just dies, no happy endings no more revivals no more anything. Gannon goes on to challenge the goddesses and the credits roll Zelda over. Yeh very unlikely but it would be a dark way, groundbreaking and redefining way to end the groundbreaking redefining series. Nothing like this has been done and doubt it will be but done in the most emotional way with the century’s of character build up could be an amazing way to get the game in the history books.
Breath of the Wild's whole timeline convergence thing is like what Turn A Gundam did for the Universal Century(Main Universe) and all of the alternate universes of Gundam, such as Wing. It could be that the Zelda series is doing something very similar.
This would be wild
Huh... A Dragon Break in the Elder Scrolls games is usually associated with Akatosh, who is one of the Nine Divines and is interpreted as a great dragon that rules over time (just like Dialga!).
And in the Zelda universe, there is the enigmatic Goddess of Time that was mentioned in Majora's Mask, who also governs time in Hyrule (and Termina, apparently).
Could the Goddess of Time have had something to do with Breath of the Wild's own "Dragon Break"?
I think the goddess of time is not real and they believe in her existence because they don't know the ocarina of time was created using timeshift stones.
Maybe. But it's worth noting that Hyrule Historia doesn't explicitly state that the Ocarina of Time was made from Timeshift Stones; only that it emits a similar glow to them.
I like to think that BoTW is the real world Hyrule while all other LoZ games are the lore told over the thousands or years
As much as I am crazy excited for botw 2, as botw is my favorite single player game of all time, I really don’t care when it comes out, so long as it delivers. I think Zelda has done a better job of handling its lore retroactively than most games do (Warcraft, elder scrolls, etc.) and I hope it does turn out to be the masterpiece you posit it is intended to be.
I'm not sure if it'll end it but definitely a bunch of questions will probably be answered. Or, we'll get another minimalist Zelda game
I'm hoping for BotW to become a trilogy, and at the end of the second Zelda is possessed by Ganon. Then in the third game Link is force to end Zelda's life to save Hyrule, and that's where the timeline ends.
I really like the time travel idea.
I don’t think they would end the series, but I think that they would put an end to Ganon
Calling it now - Ganondorf's redemption. You keep using the term "Magnum Opus" rather appropriately. because it applies to creative depictions of Jungian Individuation, which are completely the norm in Japan. But OoT alone is not a Magnum Opus, it's merely one small part of it - the entire Zelda canon. This isn't the ending, it's the end of "phase 2", where "phase 1" concluded with OoT. There are four phases to individuation (although commonly interpreted as three). The franchise being Jungian would fit the timeline split really well with being a depiction of the three different paths a person can take when faced with the challenge of individuation. They can fight the shadow with zeal, but the more pious they become, the more the shadow becomes a demon (Downfall Timeline). They can bury or outright destroy their shadow, but it will return with a new face once again (Adult Timeline). Or they can attempt to empathize with the shadow, leading to dark revelations and questions. (Child Timeline). Suddenly the placement of FSA with its empathetic Ganondorf makes a whole lot of thematic sense, right?
"What is hidden in the darkness... Tricks full of ill will... You can't see the way forward..." - Wall in the Shadow Temple, perfectly describing the "Dark night of the soul" when a person encounters the shadow in their psyche. In the previous dungeon, Link had fought his shadow in a highly symbolic mirror pond with a tree. In the child timeline, that same location is where Lanayru warns Link about the Interlopers (depicted as shadow Links) and the fused shadow.
This is really hecking poetic and well thought out, hats off to you
@@crafted_myth2392 Once you start down the rabbit hole of the Collective Unconscious you see it everywhere.
BotW is the end of the Downfall timeline; The original Zelda games.
There are no timeline splits. There are alternate parallel realities. You can't have 3 different outcomes in the single timeline. Either Link defeated Ganon or died (Downfall Timeline). He can't do both at once. Link either went back into the past and erased the future by stopping Ganondorf (Child timeline) or he stayed in the future and lived out his life there (Adult Timeline). He can't have done both. The concept of a timeline split refers to game develop.
Literally what the dragon break was is multiple outcomes of multiple realities at the same time. It's a central part of Elder Scrolls lore to reconcile different endings of a game.
There's no reason the same thing can't happen in the Zelda universe. There are no rules.
@@porcubot Elder Scrolls ain't Legend of Zelda. Dragon Break is nonsensical bs even in ES series. And even then there isn't anything as distinctive like No Hyrule at all moving forward in the Adult and a striving Kingdom (Downfall/Child). BotW is firmly in the Downfall timeline. There is no ambiguity. It only fits in the Downfall Timeline.
Ever since I saw the teaser for botw 2 with the hand pressing Ganondorf right at the location of his stabbing from TP I've come to believe they decided to consider this game as child timeline but with Easter eggs from the other timelines. After all, it's been so many years in the timeline that changes similar to the other games may have happened, but I don't think for example that it would be possible for a part of Rito from adult timeline to revert back to being zoras after their evolution. Besides, "new Hyrule" shouldn't have aspects from the old Hyrule from before Ocarina of time
I wasn't aware of what a Dragon Break was. I think it's a clever addition to the Zelda universe. But it also saddens me that, without a greater explanation, it invalidates the continuity of all the previous games (it suggests all the previous games are flawed retellings from the BotW era, and inconsistencies between the previous games and BotW are due to the stories being legends handed down over 10,000 years). But my hope is that Nintendo treats BotW like a soft reboot and there will be many more Zelda games to come in the future. I don't want it to end. The Zelda franchise is the Shakespeare of gaming.
I hope this doesn’t get buried as I would love to see you cover this, but I was wondering what your opinion is on Thyphlo Ruins being a possible dungeon in the next game. I know many people don’t know about this area.
i dont know how i didnt know until just now that fujibayashi was responsible for SS, i aDORE that game and now i wanna play his capcom zeldas even more lmao damn it
im so hype if this is The Real Deal
time travel: the cliche that still works (kind of)
So what I've learned is my favorite Zelda games were all written by the same man.
Trillogy.
If this truely is the end it will be across two more games to go out big.
No one could ever confirm to me that Marin didn't mess up her original wish and that her real wish would have been to go back with Link.
Not to mention the implication that it may have been more than just a dream. Because if it was just a dream then how did she become a seagull?
Making the implication that the word dream is linguistic slack fill for: being made of the magic of the wind fish sleeping. So the wind fish lied to you trick you into doing a genocide.
Plus we have the double slit experiment plot hole effect where in 1 ending she dies and in the other she becomes a seagull and said she was going to sing for the whole world. Okay? Then where's her song?! No where in cannon does her song ever play again implying that the "real" ending is that she just died!
I NEED PROOF PROOF SHE IS OK!
Perfect a Zelda theory for me to over analyze for the next 4 months
Nice profile picture, along with the name.
Even if BotW 2 is the end of the timeline, they can still inject new titles between previous installments. This is a story spanning tens of thousands of years.
Could you do a theory on the fourth piece of the triforce (depicted on the Hylian Shield) and its possible connection to the Goddess of Time mentioned in Majora's Mask, and the goddess Hylia?
Could Hylia be the goddess of time? I mean, Hylia gave up her divinity to reincarnate as Zelda, who taught Link the Song of Time in both OoT and MM. Perhaps the fourth piece of the triforce ceased to exist once Hylia was no longer a goddess, but it's still included in the shield design by the humans Hylia saved in the intro to Skyward Sword. Idk, I want to know your take on it
The fourth Triforce depicted in the Hylian shield is suspicious, but the creators have already confirmed that there is no fourth Triforce piece. But maybe it represents the Triforce from Lorule?
@The No.1 Guy You're right. That's exactly why I'm asking CommonWealth Realm to. If anyone can take it seriously and find out more about it, they can. They leave no stone unturned when it comes to Zelda lore ^-^
i think this will be the end of the timeline, but in between all of the timelines and BOTW there's 10,000 years, so i think we will get zelda games that fill the 10,000 year gap
Idk why but I really enjoyed the motion controls of skyward sword lol.
The one 'Zelda' to Link them all, and in the Sacred Realm bind them.
I am totally exited to see botw2 but I don’t think nor do I want Zelda as a game series to end. Demises curse dictates that as long as the spirit of the hero is revived, zelda is reborn, and demise hates the gods, all things that are fundamental to the existence of hyrule, they will combat each other. And for Nintendo as a company it would be a HUGE cut like having 7 chickens and deciding to eat the one that gives the best and most eggs, just stupid
Wow now im incredible hyped for the sequel :)
I don't know about everyone else. But I loved skyward sword and would not mind a remake...although no motion controlls
I wouldn't mind an ending to the series, but I'd miss the series too... I'm of the persuasion, like another person said, that it'll be the end of one era and the start of a new one.
Mine blown at 0:01
I had a hunch that this would be the last Zelda game
Great video
Why would they make a game that’s the end of the game’s storyline? I’m sorry just makes no sense. Even if they can add stories in between it still limits them story wise but also would limit sales on future titles. Think of it this way:
*New Zelda Players:* ooo! I love BotW I’m so glad I tried it!
*Nintendo:* BotW/BotW2 are the last game in the story
*New Zelda Player:* WHAT!?! Oh well there goes my new favorite series
We all know that BotW created so many new Zelda fans gamers and non-gamers so it just really wouldn’t make any sense to turn a lot of their newer players away. It could too easily be misinterpreted to be the last game period and newer fans who aren’t hardcore gamers or just play with their children, or even the younger kids they’ll just forget thinking it was the last game in the series.
Yeah, BotW was my first and I'm going back to play older titles, (can't wait to play Skyward Sword!) but I'd be really upset if BotW 2 ended everything. They revolutionized the way Zelda games work, so it doesn't make sense to stop it now. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us!
I think it's more of a conclusion of the Ganon/Demise's Curse saga. There have been games with unrelated evil entities before (i.e. Majora, Wind Fish nightmares).
So, question: "Why a split timeline" and answer: "Fujibayashi"?
also if you every played any pre Oot zelda titles open world exploration was a key staple to zelda.. heck zelda 1 has a large open world yiu explore where you stumble on the dungeons. and can do them out of order
3 time lines btw child adult defeat. zelda botw is a combined timeline... which can happen. you can see it through the map, exploration, and lore that breath is the timelines joined up.
Never understood why LoZ:OoA/OoS were recently moved from their original timeline placement to AFTER LoZ:LA. At the end of a linked game on LoZ:OoA/OoS, Link leaves the respective land(s) via a boat that is remarkably similar to the one seen at the beginning of LoZ:LA. Also, considering that Link faces Ganon at the end of both LoZ:ALttP and LoZ:OoA/OoS, it would make sense that Link is traumatized and "scared" to face him again, which is why the Nightmares at the end of LoZ:LA take on the form of Ganon in order to prey upon Link's fears!