The Mystery of Breath of the Wild's Forgotten Temple - Zelda Theory
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- What is Breath of the Wild's Forgotten Temple?
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Aaaaand we're back! Sorry this one took so long, hope you enjoy! What do you think the Forgotten Temple is? Do you agree that it might be the Sealed Temple?
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Spooky
Honestly I thought it was at first but, I wasn't sure
@High priest of the church of tea indeed
Bandeira Gobo
@Zeltik you have the best theories. Kudos from Brazil, following you since BotW reveal trailer
It could be, but I'll leave the speculations on this up to you Zeltik
This is literally the history channel for zelda
how come you don't have 3000 likes
LITERALLY. I feel like such a scholar after watching these haha
I think he even did a video on aliens
MrFlipFlops Not enough aliens to be the history channel
Needs more 24x7 coverage of Ganon to be the History Channel.
Ahh yes a temple to honor the hero’s that have defeated Gannon. Let’s look at the list.
Link
Link
Link
4 links
Link
4 links again
A wolf link
Link
my thoughts exactly
Well it's not like Link didn't have help or anything.
my thoughts were "Wow that list would be mostly the same name."
bruh
Jus Scytha My favorite one was link hands down
Zelda devs listening to Zeltik's theories: *"Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!"*
The writer: *WRITES WHILE THE FINGERS BLEEDING *
Dev 1: _"Hey Kyle?"_
Dev 2: _"Yeah, dude?"_
Dev 1: _"This guy on youtube called Zeltik found out about the tree."_
Dev 2: _"What tree- oh shit, that tree?"_
Dev 1: _"Yep. I told you somebody would figure it out. You should've told Fuji you forgot to remove the tree from the beginning, but now he's going to know."_
Dev 2: _"Well, fuck. Let's hope I don't get fired."_
I'm imagining their plot creation basically boils down to watching a bunch of these videos then coming up with ways to mess with us
This one is pretty obviously deliberate though 🤣
XD
Man, that's deep... When you revealed the tree in the ruins, I got the shivers lol. So much attention to detail by the makers of the games.
I never even NOTICED the tree during my first two playthroughs of Breath of the Wild! I was literally just focused on the murderous Guardians! That was a REALLY cool detail from Nintendo.
To be honest, I never really paid much attention to the Tree of Life, even while I was playing Skyward Sword (none of the million times I played it), so I was really caught by surprise!
I really hope Ganon's body from the sequel trailer is located underneath the Forgotten Temple, because that would be really cool!
I find it funny how this is structured like a historical documentary about a real temple would be.
Quality
You need to watch elder scrolls lore videos
Lmaooo And this my friend is what we call passion 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What are you talking about it is real
It's because of these people we can experience Zelda as a real universe
If you climb on the goddess statue in the forgotten Temple you'll see a family emblem.. But the design doesn't include the triforce.... Same as skyloft! Even more evidence
pp big or small
this basically confirms it does it not? Where else is the family symbol without triforce present in botw?
@@riahisama nowhere
also in one of the corners in the temple, we can see the loftwing statue where we used to save the game in Skyward Sword
And also, the master sword glows whenever you visit the forgotten temple
I knew what the Forgotten Temple was the moment i reached the goddess statue. I saw the shape of it and the architecture of the inside and immediately knew what it was. Also worth noting, nearby is a place called the "Breach of Demise" which is a huge canyon surrounded by ominous looking rock spike pillars.
This game will never get old. Always something to discover!
So many skyward sword references. It's like they specifically decided the canonically earliest and latest games would be linked
@@dominichines9996 Also botw and skyward are the only games (that I remember) that were developed specifically with the timeline in mind. I hope we get more world building lore like this in the series going forward :)
@@westoncerami3142 what do you mean? BOTW wasn't confirmed in any timeline and the developers said they would never reveal what timeline it belongs to because they think players have more fun making their own connections and theories than having a confirmed one
@@VampireBabysitter I should have said "timelines". I meant it in the sense that the idea of every LoZ game taking place in any set order that relates to each other is a relatively new idea (especially talking about alternate timelines) and the only games that have made use of it are BotW and Skyward because the timeline idea became official about the same time Skyward came out iirc. Basically I meant that Skyward is (as far as we know) the confirmed start of all the timelines in the LoZ universe, therefore BotW making reference to it and other minor world building details like that is neat
@@westoncerami3142 ah I understand what you mean now! Yeah I agree completely. I love that now the games are genuinely connected together and there's actual world building lore outside of a confined game, like with two of the leviathan skeletons in BOTW looking suspiciously like Levias from Skyward Sword and the Wind Fish from Awakening.
It was always nice to see things like carvings of Rito in Twilight Princess even though they're in two different timelines which implies that the Rito actually exist across all of them, or at least in the adult and child ones. But BOTW has a lot more ties to other games especially Skyward Sword given that Skyward is before the split so it's much easier to work things in. I was so happy when I met that kid who kept talking about wanting to go to the place he kept dreaming about, a land above the sky where he could ride on giant birds.
Lore is my favorite aspect of video games so I was especially happy with the last two games
Imagine if when entering the temple with the master sword, even without the guardians it lit up. Because Fi inside the sword sensed it was home.
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I'd say the pedestal was actually moved into the forest to protect it, while the rest of the temple was kept where it was. Even with the guardians, nothing protects better than a confusing-ass forest.
Oh, what if the entrance to the underground is in the Forgotten Temple? What if Fi does glow, as you say, while there, leading them to the entrance. Not just because it's home, but because she would know where the corpse lay? That would be cool, so...it may not happen. But I like the idea of her sensing where home is.
"I predict there's a 98% chance I am home"
I'm taking the master sword there
I was never too convinced by this theory, until you pointed out the tree. It was no accident that they put the tree there.
For real, when he showed the tree it kinda blew my mind.
Same here, seen many other theories on this place and thought it would be cool if it was the sealed temple, but that tree made me truly believe, man.
It makes me so happy to know I wasn't the only one!
It’s not like a bunch of other trees are on walls/vertical surfaces. It must have been a deliberate choice.
Or it's just the top part of the tree, which has fought its way through the walls, meaning it's still the tree with a massive root system not shown inside the walls.
In one of the stables, a little kid mentions "a kingdom in the sky." She also says "one day, i'm going to fly to the kingdom on a giant bird." Sound familiar?
I knew I wasn't the only one who caught this too lol
so the legend has become like a children's fable over the years
Aww which stable
@@smolbeansnas3602 the woods one
Only good or pure kids can see it I think was also said. Makes it seem like you can only see it when you're young. And it would be believable if link saw the floating islands as a kid; he can see the koroks, the dragons, and the late champions after all. It would also be believable if he's not fully recovered from his amnesia or he was very young when he last saw it and simply forgot over time because the adults didn't enable and entertain the notion he saw things they couldn't or strictly believed such things were fairy tales and nothing more.
I like to think Link getting the Wild outfit as him proving that he is the hero,
He tamed 4 divine beast, beat 4 blight ganons, climbed a fiery volcano, infiltrated a walled off town, found and solved all 120 shrines, and soon going to defeat an ancient evil.
All of that proved to the goddess and to the shiekah monks, that he has earned his place among the many heroes of Hyrule.
The many heroes being:
link
link
Four links
Wolf link
Another link
etc
@@jennifermiller5696 Okay
I love this: "Hyrules ever shifting geography is famously inconsistent"
Probably got moved all the way there by the same tectonic shifting that created the huge chasms to the West and North that Link can't cross.
@@TextualDeviant you mean the same one that led to the Temple of Time and the Lost Woods swapping places?
@@r.alexandercorbitt1554 Well, we can't predict how long it's been since the last game, so... wait, what if we could estimate how long it's been using that??
@@TextualDeviant I blame war changing geography
Me: I don't know, seems kinda iffy.
Tree: I'm about to confirm this man's whole career.
I was convinced at the oldest statue part. But the tree just made it more clear !
Hahahahah true
LEL
haha
Hilarious entry. Agreed
When a game is a little over 2 years old, but people are still figuring things out and making theories, that’s how you know it’s a great game.
Dylan Rochelle true
Abu Misir When you watch videos about a game you hate just to be toxic.
@Abu Misir I've played Zelda games since I was 3 and I know that this is a true Zelda game. It has the really long and difficult side quest that takes AGES to do, has the lore that produces a bunch of theories and, well, I can't name them all off the top of my head but even I know that this game deserves a place on the timeline! Don't hate on such a wonderful game.
Abu Misir he isn’t joking botw is one of if not the best zelda game ever.
Abu Misir botw is not garbage your young 9yr old mind cannot comprehend its greatness, zelda botw is the biggest open world game ever, has a great soundtrack, and design. Another thing I’d like to add, you commented “you must’ve be born in 2010” if your saying “hahahhahaha” that shows your just some spoiled brat.
I like to think somewhere, Nintendo has a complete, absolute record of every tiny detail within the Zelda world, but picks and chooses what to explicitly explain, and what to leave out. I like to think Nintendo doesn’t just willy nilly go ‘Yeah, just throw that there. Don’t worry about writing a story for it.’
That’s what I like about the dark souls series, they have lore like this where they don’t entirely explain and they use the story that spans over a series, using call backs as the actual story instead of just having it there for the sake of nostalgia. They also have a complete idea of the story, but purposefully don’t allow it to be fully revealed so players can be speculative. The two series are actually pretty similar community wise if you think about it, the main lore TH-camr similar to zeltik is vaati vidya who combines the games actual lore with theories to get a conclusion taht often times ends up being proved right in dlc or sequels since fromsoftware actually has the story planned out. I hope that Nintendo tries to follow their lead with this type of story that’s off to the side but is actually planned out and still really interesting in totks release
I don't make video games, but I write songs, poetry, and other stuff. Furthermore, I've spent a lot of time studying artists across the spectrum. When it comes to creating something, very rarely is anything tossed in arbitrarily. Yes, it does happen, but creators are typically deliberate and intentional when it comes to detail. Think abt that the next time you are watching a movie, and notice something that seems random or unimportant.
theres an island in the northeast thunderhead in skyward sword with a rupee medal and a monster horn/evil crystal in it and im 99.999% sure theres lore to it
This. This is the reason I love Zelda so much, finding lore or locations that make the player whisper "I know this place..." as memories come flooding back.
Everybody: "This Theory isn't tr-"
Zeltik: *"tree"*
Terlinilia brilliant
*tree*
YOU’RE A T R E E
Once, we were doing a play and I got the important role of
*T R E E*
*T R E E* *intensifies*
Every time I was in the Forgotten Temple I stared at that tree and kept thinking "That thing is there for a reason. Someone will figure out why it's there..." and then you appeared.
This is the best theory I've seen. I'm convinced.
dude wth i think i cut it down every time
Same the first time I gone in the forgotten temple I was thinking I'll ima explore' then I saw the tree after kelling a lot of guardians ' hmm that's there for some reason... oh well time to complete that shrine.
Same I thought it was just a normal tree
I thought the exact same thing! I always thought that there had to be something more to it, some kind of secret. Glad i finally found out what it (maybe) was.
@@ruthl1515 how old are you? My guess is you can't be older then 25 be because older folks would prefer ocarina of time and such
Popping in to say that in ToTK this statue gives you the White Sword of the Sky, so this is definitely the Skyward Sword Goddess Statue
if you watched the memories of totk you'll know its purpose
idk I don't think the geoglyphs mean this isn't the forgotten temple...it's possible zelda just put the map in that room when she went to the past@@gangofwolves5525
@@gangofwolves5525Just because the Hylians and
SPOILERS:
Zonai built more things to the temple, that doesn't mean it's no longer the same place. It's still the same area, it's located on the northwest because of Hyrules constant landscape and terraforming changes, it's the true birthplace of the very first Hyrule while the Temple of Time is the birthplace of a refounded Hyrule and it has all of the characteristics it had in Skyward Sword
Zeltik: Loftwings are extinct by the time of breath of the wild
Breath of the wild rito: allow us to introduce ourselves
They're descendants of Zora, not Loftwings.
Loftwings and Ritos are not related
@@Echo_the_half_glitch That’s only in Wind Waker’s timeline though.
@@DarkMirria1 No, because how would two different creatures have convergent evolution to the point where they're the same?
@@Echo_the_half_glitch They don’t look exactly the same and they only became Rito because of the great flood + through Valoo’s power, who isn’t in BotW. (That’s how they get their wings, through the power of Valoo’s scales.)
I don’t believe the convergence concept.
God I want Skyward Sword remastered on Switch so badly
Polyrhythmz i think i would prefer twilight princes, majora or ocarina of time remastered. Not saying that skyward sword is not a good game, but is still a recent game to be remastered
Samuel Prado They already remastered those three games though lol
Samuel Prado I think you’re mistaking remaster with a remake like for links awakening. I don’t think they’ll do remakes for any 3D Zeldas.
Same. It's a great game and story. Game play sucked mainly because of the Wii remote
Polyrhythmz same I want wind waker too :(
Is no one going to talk about how CLEAN that transition was at 8:30
Ha I noticed that too! When I saw your comment I thought "this has to be about the new to old statue transition". That was great.
IKR?? FOLKS BE SLEEPING ON IT-
Yeah, it’s really neat
it looks like a cutscene straight from the game
Yea that was a sexy transistion. Had me shook
Parents naming their child "Link" knowing the legends and the dangerous tasks of the hero: ;)
Then being killed for plot convienience
how many links have you seen in zelda besides The Link? the one you play as.
@@DUSaggin they are not the same lInks.
Link to the past
Ocarina of time
Windwaker
Nes Legend of zelda
all different links in different moments of time
@@bigbromiki1 reincarnation. they aren't the same in memorys really, but they are the same person in spirit. that is the whole premise of the Zelda games. Link, Zelda and Ganon being reincarnated over and over because of the Goddess Hylia and the Demon Demise.
@@DUSaggin no, in wind waker for one, they specifically say he is an ancestor
I love the idea of the location where the first hero awakened becoming a special place for heroes of all ages. Although I had always thought the sealed temple was the temple of Time. (Sword pedestal, time warp gate, magically sealed back room, geographical location). I guess it all comes down to which hero you think the Hylians remember and honor the most. (Ironically, both of them are initially ignored, dismissed, and forgotten, until a few thousand years have passed.)
@Confused Memer Yeah, OOT Link got the worst of the deal from every angle. PTSD likely on the child timeline (played out in Majoras Mask), and the reference to the Hero of Time in Twilight Princess...i'm probably missing so many other references...I just feel bad for that incarnation of Link.
I feel like you can knock "theory" right off the title because Im 100% certain you've totally nailed it
But that would make that trees like 20000 thousand years old or something..... no tree lives that long.
@@Andronicus87 This is Zelda, my boi
Ryan Navin my guy theres literally a giant talking living and knowledgeable tree making up the lost woods, like the video said, it was hinted this tree could withstand itself for a long time so its really not that out of the question
@@nothanksbigno7019 and if you think about it the great Deku tree could actually be the one tree in skyward sword that sits in faron forest
@@Andronicus87 it's the tree of life it's strong
Assuming Zelda games take place in the same world, Hyrule’s tectonic plates are WILD
Why's that?
@@Error0101
Because in each game Hyrule is almost completely different from the last.
@@breakfastsquad9871 They actually match up pretty well when you get down to it, BotW is the one that completely ruins it, an to some extent FSA.
well, you know, there have been many cataclysmic events in hyrule's long history, including the calamity that sets the stage for botw.
@@2DLove While true, BotW just doesn't make sense period. With TP you can argue Earthquakes and actual tectonic shifts. BotW's map is so out there that some places haven't moved at all, other places such as Temple of Time/Sealed Temple are completely different areas, the Kokiri Forest is beside Death Mountain now, Crenel Hills is to the East of Hyrule Castle, with Minish Woods being to the North of it now, Faron Gerudo is now to the Southwest of Lake Hylia. There is a lot going on that just doesn't make any sense. With the other games you can match up everything just fine, granted you do have to assume there is some distance difference due to technical limitations, some earthquakes/flooding/drying of lakes, or rotate the maps to some extent, but BotW is on an entirely different level.
My explanation for why the statue is smaller is that over time it has been reduced in size by maintenance, as time has slowly taken it's toll on it people have probably maintained it but doing that of course makes the statue smaller. At some point the Forgotten Temple was built around it in order to spare the statue from the elements and since then it hasn't reduced in size as quickly as it definitely seems to fit in with the Temple.
I’m willing to bet this temple will be involved with the sequel somehow
it will its the only temple unless there more ?
@@justagirlwithamustache9618 theres also the temple of time
@@NoName-rb3vp doesn't really count. However, more will be made
It is, in a way.
It isn't directly involved in the story but if anything, his theory about it being the temple of Hylia and the sealed grounds is nearly confirmed due to the mother goddess statue granting you the goddess blade for completing its quest.
The REAL strangest mystery is how on Earth you REMEMBERED the FORGOTTEN temple!
Spazem very funny
A wha temple
I’ve never heard of that
What is this temple you speak Of ? Surely if there was a long forgotten temple I would know about it
even the 3 goddesses forgot this temple
I had to look up what it was after the shrines because u went there during the beginning of the game exploring time and never went back
Also a note: in botw the king states in the prophecy “the way to defeat Ganon is found underground” - this is assumed to be the guardians and divine beasts. But what if it has to do with the corpse?
Yeah, we see malice flowing from the corpse, almost as if it's leaking... what if the corpse was merely a vessel, and the hand was covering the leak to prevent the malice from escaping?
Or it's less a vessel and more like the source itself. Could be Ganondorf's original body in Breath of the Wild's era. In all the timelines, the only Ganondorf/Ganon still alive is 4 Swords Adventure. I think he some broke free of the 4 Swords and an alternate sealing method was needed.
Jarock316 it’s probably Twilight Princess ganondorf, because of the hole in his chest.
Wow you just gave me shivers down my spine
@@TeddyBren Can't be, he's dead.
The very first time I played the game without spoilers and found this temple I cried because I knew right away that it was the same statue and temple from skyward sword. I thought nobody else noticed it but I just found your video today and I’m shook.
That’s mega gay
@@joshdean5867 It's pretty Chad ngl 🗿
"Head to the temple of the oldest goddess statue to see what they have left you there"
*Ad for dorito extra cool ranch plays*
Me : seeing this in my recommended at 3:25 am
Also me: "I don't need sleep, I need answers".
Don't blame you, it was an amazing video!😁
Ok Sheldon Cooper
You can also save it to your watch later playlist
Craig 666 actually 5:10 am
The architecture and placements of the pillars and the tree growing trough the wall makes this not a coincidence this is definitely the right theory.
That gotdamn tree confirms it, it was intentional
This is all pretty much explained in TotK, when you fix the Goddess Statue by talking to the three Springs' goddess statues, and offering them the corresponding dragon's claws. The 'Mother' Goddess Statue will give you the 'White Sword of the Sky'- the Goddess Sword from BotW, but renamed.
She gives you the Goddess Sword for saving her, and can offer you a new one for one claw of Dinraal, Farosh, and Naydra (like you needed to save her originally) if you break the Goddess Sword.
"After Demise's errr.....defeat, Definately not Demise's demise"
WAIT! You said that the "demon" was crushed beneath the temple.... Could this be where we see Ganon sealed underground in the trailer BOTW 2?
It's possible! The "demon" that was crushed under the temple wasn't just some random demon, it was Demise, the first incarnation of Ganon, so sealing Calamity Ganon there is something that they definitely might do!
Silver_the_Rowlet I think he’s under hyrule castle
Mason Mackinnon it was under the castle if you see closely you can see a bunch of dust coming from under the castle
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT. Maybe the ganon they find in the trailer is this ganon!
Ninja Inkling that doesn’t mean it does but it make a lot of sense so your probably correct
When you note that Demise was crushed under the Hylia Statue, perhaps the Forgotten Temple had little story because it will be used in the sequel?
Dude- what if the Ganondorf of this game is different and this Hyrule actually takes place when the timeline was unified (as in before Ocarina of time). Someone unsealed demise and the curse was officially set.
I don’t really believe this, but it’s just a random thought.
@@happythekatt8419 It wouldn't make sense with the blue clothing they wear in the trailer. They were made by the Zelda from BOTW. It would make more sense if this was:
a) The final game in the Ganondorf/Demise timeline. (Like Avengers: Endgame marked the end of the infinity saga)
b) the second in a trilogy that marks the end of the timeline.
@@NerdHerdForLife looks too gerudo to be demise
That's unlikely because well demise / the imprisoning was crushed that was in the present but Ghirahim went back to the past so link travel to the past to kill demise they stay in the past
@@christophersuazo6799 But ironically that wouldn't necessarily mean that the Imprisoned Demise is gone for good.
Skyward Sword could technically split the timeline being as it involved time travel. While the Demise in the past was truly defeat by Link, the Imprisoned still could exist just sealed underground deep beneath the Goddess Statue.
Though that is a bit of a stretch because time travel doesn't seem to work that way in SS for any other time travel shenanigans (specifically Zelda, Impa, and the tree of life).
But then again Demise being defeated in the past should have technically erased the Imprisoned from the present if that was fully the case as SS seems to operate on predestination with the exception of the Tree of Life and anything dealing with Time Shift stones. Though in OoT planting things was the only thing you could do to change the future (so maybe the tree of life works under that rule), and Zelda/Impa could have caused a split but being Link doesn't time travel until after the other two you could argue he was simply from the split that Zelda/Impa created when they traveled. Although I like to think that the OoT timeline split has a reason it occured beyond simple time travel and is somehow related to the split of the Triforce. (This is why I think the Downfall timeline exists when it doesn't make much sense to exist. There's a reason we are simply unaware of.)
Even after Tears, I think this theory still holds up. The Zonai and the Hylians added to temple.
The room with the geoglyphs in it was built after the imprisoning war (you can see that it didn’t exist yet in memory 12 and 13) pretty much confirming that the temple had rooms added to it and wasn’t originally built with those rooms.
@@bagelgod946. I mean that was relatively obvious from the start; Even in Breath of the Wild, it's clear that the Forgotten Temple has been added to and repaired multiple times over the many many MANY thousands of years.
One easy explanation is that when they built the Temple of Time they decided instead of destroying the Sealed Temple, they moved it to a new location. Brick by brick exactly as it was. Even the tree was carefully moved.
Exactly, they probably moved the statue and the remaining most prominent structures like the columns, then built the surrounding bigger structure and decorated it with Loftwing imagery. Sounds more likely than the plates shifting its location that much and somehow only moving half the temple, because the part with the Master Sword pedestal most likely remained where it was.
Or they simply moved the Master Sword
@@superheriber27 they would have needed a version of link to do that though. Link is the only one who can free it from its pedestal.
@@loganvantrease3535 Just move the pedestal
How tf do u move a massive tree with a lack of heavy duty technology and equipment
Unless you're an animal crossing player and have a fruit, I suppose.
Perhaps.. and go with me here..
Some ancient cultures would "resculpt" important statues if they become damaged.
Perhaps the Goddess Hylia statue was re-sculpted from her larger form after taking damage, from war, weather, or just time. If her head and a wing fell off or something and she became unrecognizable, her worshippers might have panicked and wanted to rebuild the statue and build a temple around her to protect her from the elements and perhaps.. I dunno, drop a few high tech guards to protect her and watch over her.
So they take the original statue, carve a new-er smaller statue from what remains of her, and build the temple anew! Bigger! Better! With the best technology and stone they have to offer now! They leave the most technologically advanced weapons they have to protect her for all time.
Then.... something happens. A _Calamity_ if you will... and her builders and protectors never return. People forget she exists. The beautiful Goddess and her temple, both rebuilt and waiting to found, sit alone and waste away to the ravages of time... Again.
That is my kinda sad theory that helps this main theory be true.
Hope you like it.
I think you might be right. It reminds me of the Ise Jingu Grand Shrine in Mie Prefecture, Japan. The community rebuilds it every 20 years and has been doing that for at least the last 1000 years.
@@jaenbow9714 Oh cool! I'm gonna look into that, it sounds super interesting. Kinda like those monks in India who have been doing prostrations non-stop for over a thousand years in shifts...
I'm not religious, but sometimes religion births some beautiful and really impressive customs and traditions that balance out some of the... "less good" ones.
Also, I kinda forgot that almost all Japanese temples and castles are wooden and require rebuilding and upkeep because they are meant to fall down or break in hurricanes or storms and be rebuilt as needed instead of stone which is much harder to build with, repair and upkeep. At least I think that's the reason... So that makes perfect sense!
danteelite I was thinking the same thing!!
In skyward sword, there's a chamber beneath the statue, as if the statue was on its own pedestal. It's not there in botw
@@tenacity9469 What if... here me out here... there is a chamber beneath the statue, and we'll see it in BotW2?
I'm still waiting on the creators to make a breath of the wild before the Calamity
Justin Love i just want a zelda game where the ruins arent ruins but freshly built and thriving
There'd be no point in that. We already know what happens, it would be a 3rd game set that version of Hyrule, which would be boring and lazy. And there probably wouldn't be any dungeons, since calamity Ganon is immediately struck down the second he shows up. At best if Nintendo wanted to elaborate on that story, it would probably be an animated short series or movie. But again, we already know what happens. It would probably flop.
S.E.N I want my sims 4 hyrule expansion dammit!
octbvr edits we already have a mini manga for that though
octbvr edits yea, its at the back of the hyrule historia
I swear, Nintendo just give us some answers!!! We've already figured it out, just please for the love of Hylia, just confirm it!
This theory is so good it cannot be wrong.
Everyone: skyward sword is a terrible game
Also Everyone: SKYWARD SWORD IS TO BE REMEMBERED
The gameplay wasn't the best, but the story, art, and music were great.
I think BOTW is really the result where they took in everyone's considerations and used really lovely, amazing parts of Skyward Sword built upon for less repetition, to feel like you're discovering a world rather than trudging through to figure out the gimmick of an area that you've already been through a few times
Strange it is yes, but I liked Skyward Sword
@@PrincessofKeys the skyloft temple is an easy top five in my opinon
Devil Bowser253 I’m going to hurt anyone who said Skyward Sword is a terrible game. YOU’RE A TERRIBLE GAME!!!
One of my biggest hopes for Botw 2 is an explanation of some of the original game's mysterious ruins, I feel like we don't know too much about Ancient Hyrule's past landscape.
It'd be super interesting to learn about ruins that we've been theorizing about for over 2 years, especially the Zonai Ruins.
man, this would be so interesting, damn
What if you went back in time 10k Years and defeat and defeat Ganondorf and an army of monsters?
I bellieve that nintendo was planning to use them for the DLC's but now instead they are giving us a part 2 of the history wich can use all of the little used places
@Just Squid wich way of new Story telling you mean? When did Aonuma say somthing like this?
@Just Squid Ah, thanks. That would be so freaking amazing, i hope the world changes a lot
If the Goddess statue in the Forgotten Temple is the same one found in Skyloft, that means that Sky Keep sits just below it. If I remember correctly, there was a brief shot of the Forgotten Temple in the BotW2 trailer. If this theory is true, I bet there is a major dungeon under the temple that houses something very significant.
Hopefully an old school dungeon
@@soggysoup2087 WE NEED THESE i only have 2 legend of zelda games and i'm still complaining about how we have the divine beasts instead of oot dungeons..
@@potatoking4227 I still have my gold cartridges from the NES LOZ 1 & 2. The dungeon crawling is one of the elements that made LOZ. I understand doing something new to lesson the redundance, but when the only dungeon is repeated 4 times and arguably Hyrule castle, it's like reinventing a motor vehicle by taking the tires away and putting 4 square tires on the roof. Can't say there was no place for a dungeon and with over a hundred mundane puzzles, there was plenty of brain buster material for dungeons. But I have a good feeling Nintendo is gonna unfuck this discrepancy in BOTW2
The *MONSTER* , Demise was crushed under it in skyward's sword. But what if it's alive..
@@soggysoup2087 I think we are going to get proper dungeons, not unlike the ones in the original LoZ in BotW2. And I think that Jet H. is right about what lies beneath the forgotten temple.
Why is the Zelda series so good at telling a story without telling it
bc they copied from dark souls
@@Dead_Hitori lmaoooooooo dark souls copied it from zelda everyone knows that, zelda started to do this things since a link to the past 1991.
With totk out, we now know that the true Temple of Time that Rauru built is actually in the sky... Giving more credit to this theory.
So there is essentially three Temple of Times. Skyward Sword, Ocarina of Time, and Tears of the Kingdom
Did anyone else notice the parallel between demise being sealed under a spiral by the goddess statue and the hand that was present in the botw 2 trailer?
Did it spiral in the correct direction?
It was indeed a clockwise spiral just as we see from the spectral hand in the botw2 teaser trailer. I love how Zelda games are so detailed in their concept and execution, a phenomenal series, long may it continue.
Botw2 is gonna blow Botw out of the water
Maybe the location we saw in the trailer (if not Hyrule Castle) is under the forgotten temple! 🤔
@Mustache Merlin Plus, they've pretty much said there's a lot they'd wanted to put in Breath of the Wild that time constraints (and the need to prioritize polishing what's already there before adding stuff) kept them from adding.
I feel like this is going to be somewhat of a Mario Maker 2 to Mario Maker situation, where it's the same engine, same physics, but a load of new stuff.
Of course, I'm not saying this sequel game is going to replace Breath of the Wild like Mario Maker 2 does with Mario Maker. That's where the comparison ends.
I'm just saying people are probably going to greatly prefer playing this sequel over Breath of the Wild.
I see it plausible. In fact, this could be the place Link and Zelda are in the botw 2 trailer: under the forgotten temple.
But they're shown to be under the castle...
@@terozu5440 where is it shown?
@Teru Rozu it’s not confirmed the events shown in the teaser could happen at separate times in the game
@@terozu5440
Whatever happens in the cave could likely be involved with the lifting of the castle, but that does not confirm they are beneath it.
or maybe there's an interconnected system of tunnels beneath the BotW Hyrule, and "BotW 2" takes place there... so it could be under BOTH the Hyrule Castle AND the forgotten temple - as they are seen traveling in the teaser, which implies some distance covered, underground... Like, how would they, realistically, expand the already huge BotW map? By going down (and possibly up as well - hence the floating Hyrule Castle)
The main thing that gets me when taking about this is that "oldest" is relative to context. "Oldest" does not mean first. Also based on real world buildings it is unlikely one the size of the temple of hylia statue was the first. However, given the way Hylia is worshipped then forgotten then worshipped again in Zelda games I could imagine a renaissance in Hylia imagery and the old sites being rediscovered and rebuilt, starting with the sealed/forgotten temple (rebuilt as stated in the video) and then the spring sites discovered via records in the temple. This would allow for the size differences and the "oldest" being the oldest still standing.
I feel like you didn’t grasp how old the contents inside the forgotten temple really are. The fact that pillars, a statue, and a tree (if the are in fact original) exists possibly 100 millennium later, maybe more is absolutely insane. All while being exposed on the surface, in direct contact with oxygen and the elements? It’s a miracle they are still there
Zelda time is shorter than real life time.
Magic exists tho
You forgot that Demise was later SEALED in the SEALED GROUNDS by the falling gigantic Skyloft statue.
So, we have a place called Sealed Grounds, a Sealed Temple and a Sealed Gannondorf.
So, is Gannondorf sealed under the Forgotten Temple in Breath of the Wild?
Aww yeah nah yeah that's where Demise was sealed. Not necessarily where the Ganondorf from Twilight Princess was sealed
Guys, u know that Gannon was sealed by the sand seals, right?
Maybe? Demises physical form was sealed under the temple but his consciousness was sealed within the master sword.
Is Demise actually sealed there, since Link went back to the past and imprisoned him in the Master Sword?
From what I understand the Demise that was sealed under the temple was the Demise from the present while the Demise from the past was sealed inside the master sword, also being the Demise that set the curse.
The forgotten temple was such an amazing surprise to come across...imagine if it was an actual dungon you could do puzzles in!
That is exactly what I (and many others) hope they are like if they are brought back. Completely seamless locations within the world.
If only,,,
@@josiahferrell5022 I do prefer some sort of Key item or event to Trigger them to 'Open' still though; drives plot objective, and there's just something special about 'Questing' for 'uncovering' a Dungeon,, it never gets old
That would've been amazing. At the end of that dungeon, it would've been awesome to see the master sword react to the environment. You'd hear Fi's little chirp noise, then have link close his eyes and Fi would speak about the times long gone.
Oh we could build our dungeon in cemu
I think my brain actually exploded when you talked about the Tree of Life in SS and then the camera panned to the tree in the ruins of the Forgotten Temple... What a find!! Absolutely loved the video, thanks so much for making it!
Can't wait to visit the Forgotten Temple again in the new game.
5:54
*2016*
Nintendo: “Eh, let’s just reuse this wall asset. No one will ever notice.”
*THREE YEARS LATER...*
Zeltik: “...we can even find a ruined wall, designed the exact same way as modern Hylian buildings found all over Hyrule Field.”
Jokes aside, I love your content dude.
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Thanks for all the great videos. 🎶
Tajzs exactly what I thought too xD
That's what I was thinking. Who know's if Nintendo's getting lazy here.
given the ever shifting geography of hyrule, i can believe that this is indeed the same temple found from skyward sword.
However, the Master Sword isn't found there.
LittleAl016 it was given to the Deku tree by Zelda to protect right?
@@yeahkeen2905 Only because that's where the Master Sword's resting place is. Ever shifting geography or no, the Master Swords resting place is a fixed point. Things move around it, not the other way around. Plus there isn't even a pedestal close by to the Forgotten Temple to put the Master Sword in even if Zelda wanted to seal it away in the Forgotten Temple.
@@LordOfDarkness8296 Precisely my point.
LordOfDarkness8296 alright then. Thx
This dude was right on the money, this video aged well ngl
It's a tough call... There was already a strong case for the Temple of Time having been built on the remains of the Sealed Temple before BotW even came out, but this case is pretty compelling.
Not to belittle other Zelda Theorists, but your videos to me are more in depth than most, and you answer the questions we’ve all overlooked. 10/10 would recommend more like this!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this
hypercane14 same
100% this. I tend to err on the side of "You're reading too much into things, there's no way the developers deliberately put this here" for a lot of similar types of theories, but these always have so much evidence and thought put into them that I can't help but agree.
Nbc best
Well Nbc and Zeltik have been having many crossovers lately so they probably agree some of each others theories
Honestly I love this channel and am fine you with taking as long as necessary to make a quality video
Im so happy this blows the idea of BotW being a prequel completely out of the water.
In Totk you get the goddess sword from this temple's statue which basically confirms this theory
If the Forgotten Temple is actually the Sealed temple, and we end up having to travel back in time for BOTW 2, is it possible we would see something such as either the Skyloft, or the Sealed temple from Skyward Sword?
OOH. THIS. I LIKE THIS.
This. I like this.
Not to resurrect an old comment (my apologies for binging on videos from Zeltik this far after release). But in the very last thing we see in the trailer for BOTW 2 is Hyrule Castle being lifted upwards. If this means just slightly, or into the air, that's to be seen. But even so, this could imply even more of the Skyloft concepts being possible.
This is old but Zelda is the one who gets to go back in time, you kinda nailed it
6:04
Everyone else: reused assets
Zeltik: secret
Is it bad that those were my exact thoughts when I saw that? Like I literally thought "that's the same asset but flipped...."
Nintendo has been very careful about reusing certain assets post OoT. They realized that the mystery was the most important aspect of the games. They began dropping hints and easter eggs that can be used to connect dots even if it isn't official. One example is the Sage Medallions in Skyward Sword.
I like to think of the Zelda games as less of a linear history, and more a collection of mythology, told by different sources. That way, it makes sense that the same locations, symbols, and characters keep returning, though never quite in the same way. Each storyteller adopts these archetypes, and changes them to fit into the tale of their hero.
Maybe the one telling the tale of the Hero of the Wild is particularly fond of the tale of the first hero, and therefore uses elements of that story to elevate their own hero to that same status.
The only thing I don't like about this is that it makes it feel like the stories you've played through were lies. Although, if we're just speaking locations and geography and not actual plot and story, then I actually really like this explanation.
Your theory has been confirmed correct. The devs treat each prior game as a legend, not historical fact.
Bro my friends got TTOK rn and Zeltik was on point 3 yrs ago
*Inside the forgotten temple*
"Gee, it sure is boring around here"
"Mah boy, this piece is what all true warriors strive for!"
Begone, *SATAN!*
…peace.
God, the amount of love and effort put into Breath of the Wild game is amazing, mentioning so many games and in some cases, filling plot holes. It’s incredible.
The promenade could’ve also been built to honor Naydra. One of the most consistent places to spawn Naydra is on the northern cliff overlooking the gorge. So maybe it was built with both the sightings and proximity to the spring taken into account.
I cannot adequately express my infinite love for these games and the worldbuilding. Super down for this theory...and so glad to have some kind of explanation for the Forgotten Temple, one of the most memorable and nostalgic discoveries I've ever had in a game.
This and the ReDead theory have completely blown me away. The quality of the theories coming out of this channel is insane! I mean I’ve heard the Skyloft theory before, but never with the mountain of evidence you came up with.
Seriously. Usually there has to be lots of guesswork involved, but this guy has got so much evidence for each point he makes. I'm always left convinced.
I think its funny that hylians have existed for millions of years and yet they still use swords and shields
Because Ganon keeps pushing them back to the dark ages... they usually go to the brink of extintion before Link saves their asses... that's why they never evolve that much...
That's the thing.. we never play the ages that Ganon wins... Link is only born in times of desperation and never on times of prosperity... we just get there, Ganon already fucked everything up.. and we kinda fix it, but never for good...
Tura Martins also probably because Hyrule would be better off with a somewhat medieval fantasy setting
Well, BOTW implemented some really important technological devices to the world of Hyrule, like the Tablet, Guardians, Towers, Shrines or even the Divine Beasts.
Even though it's still the same medieval, Dark Aged game, it's showing a bit of advancements on technology and science.
Remember the Sheikah must be hiding a lot of secrets about special or even destructive and very important devices and weaponry. It's a matter of time before a Zelda game is released which shows us all (or a big part) of these achievements and make us realize how truly advanced they were.
Sorry for bad enlglish
@@nachovennedictus6492 All that technology but still no ak-47's in sight. Ganon don't want no smoke 😈
remember that sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, so its very easy to say that everything from the magic bar in most zelda games to things like the bombchu are remnants of high technology... anyone else just get a craving to make a bomb loaded wind up mouse?
I only remember that I immediately died when I went into the forgotten temple
The side quest that revolves around this statue in TotK rewards you with the White Sword of the Sky from Skyward Sword
"This is the quest Link receives after completing all 120 shrines.." *lunges for phone* PAUSE PAUSE PAUSE PAUSE
Did you like the reward?
Looks cool, completely underpowered though..... especially for the time and effort
@@kylemundy8871 i feel it's more like an emotional thing, it surely makes me emotional when I see it after playing skyward sword and twilight princess
@@eatmypanart when I fought Ganon, I made sure Link was wearing his green outfit, master sword and Hylian shield. So I know what you mean :)
Kyle Mundy, It’s actually got one of the highest defence stats if you max it out.
Great theory! My thought on the Temple's inconsistent location is that Rauru, using the Triforce, moved the Sealed Temple and goddess statue because he was trying to hide the location of the Sacred Realm. I think the temple was moved magically because you can see the natural rock and temple stone seemed phased together in many places. That was the whole reason he built the Temple of Time in the first place. This would also explain why the Great Plateau and Lost Woods seemed to have switched locations in BOTW. Ganondorf discovered the location of the entrance to the Sacred Realm in OoT. So, after the events of that era, the Royal Family and/or Great Deku Tree used their power to switch the locations in order to hide the entrance to the Sacred Realm again. The Deku tree and Kokomo/Koroks protect it by removing those not worthy from the forest. This is why the Master Sword is in the forest and not the Temple of Time in BOTW and othernlater timeline games. The Sword, pedestal, and Sacred Realm entrance never moved-but everything else did. I like to think that why you have to do the Sword trials as well; the Master Sword is using its sealing power to seal the Sacred Realm, and it doesn't trust you with all its power till you prove you are worthy. Maybe it was Rauru who built the Forgotten Temple to honor the very first hero.
It’s astounding to me how much detail and lore they can pack into this series. Still my favorite after all these years, even if it took a while for BoTw to grow on me.
There is a quest in TotK where you have to help the Mother Goddess statue (the one in the Forgotten Temple) and the reward for it is "The White Sword of the Sky" well if that isn't confirmation, i dont know what is
(edit: the item description even says "A sword said to have once belonged to a hero from the sky")
7:10 Yes; and in the Trailer,, doesn't Hyrule Castle raise slowly?
Please,, if We get Dungeons AND Loftwings confirmed, I'm passing out
Bring back groose
Groose's theme goes with anything funny.
Um skylofts are extinct and groose has been dead for a long time
@@aidan1890 I read a theory once that suggested that Ganondorf IS a reincarnation of Groose who was cursed by Demise to carry out his Hatred. 🤔😏
THE GROOSE IS LOOSE
THE GROOSE IS LOOSE
THE GROOSE IS LOOSE
THE GROOSE IS LOOSE
THE GROOSE IS LOOSE
Me: intended to go to sleep at a descent time
Zeltik: I am gonna screw this mans whole plan
_for non Europeans, its past midnight here in Europe_
SO TRUE
I can relete
I’m non European and it’s 6:50 rn
very relatable indeed
why is this actually me ahahahaa
One idea I had was that the location of the forgotten temple used to be the center of Hyrule and the kingdom grew and grew.
I was thinking this too. Like short of specific landmarks, anything can change and move.
I'm pretty sure Hyrule lays on a massive fault line, due to the enormous canyon that encircles the northern and western borders of Hyrule, and the massive canyon that the Forgotten Temple is found in.
Connecting the Tree of Life blew my mind! I wouldn't have made that connection without this video!
David Johnson I remember trying to get to that very same tree in botw surrounded by guardians. I thought there must be a korok in there ! I wouldn’t let it rest because I was convinced that tree looked so out of place there just had to be a korok there ! There wasn’t and my mind just wouldn’t let it go ! I totally forgot about the tree of life !!! Mind blown 🤯
We've hit Dark Souls levels of lore searching. Where we're looking at brick walls to gleam info about how buildings are made and their purpose.
Man, this videos are just so hypnotizing to see, the amount of details you use to explain the theories is amazing, cheers
It’s crazy to think how connected Skyward Sword was to BOTW, even before BOTW2’s trailer. Maybe it was a sort of hint about the HD remaster? Either way, it’s definitely become a lot more important than it already was
I have a feeling that BOTW 2 will have very deep connections to SS. I'm so excited for the game to come out.
@@Xeno_Solarus me too, skyward sword is my favorite Zelda game, so I’m super excited to see how the connection pans out
There are a few smaller details I noticed that make this theory even more believable.
1.If you look at the stone octagon shape on the ground where the shrine is in BotW, it's just like in front of Skyward Sword's goddess statue.
2.The family symbol without the Triforce is on the statue in BotW if you climb onto its hands and look below its face, just like you see in SS.
3.If you go in the room with the statue in BotW and look up at the doorway leading out to the pillars, you'll see it's lower than the others, where you can fly over it instead of having to go through a hole in the wall like the other rooms. Look at the Sealed Temple on Isle of the Goddess in SS, the entranceway is lower than the rest of the temple's ceiling is, just like in BotW.
Sorry if some of that didn't make sense, just some observations I made. Personally I believe this theory.
skyward sword being my first and favourite game, I love how much respect breath of the wild seems to give to the hero of the sky. Even if he might not be everyone's favourite, he will always be mine, and botw gives me hope that nintendo won't forget him either!
Same.
Novalee How could Nintendo forget the first hero??? I’m sick of everyone always obsessing over the Hero of Time. There are others too! The Hero of Winds is the smartest in my opinion KEEPING THE SWORD INSIDE OF GANON!!!
When he showed me where the tree of life was in botw, I was in complete shock
I really enjoyed this theory. It’s incredibly interesting and I can tell you’ve put genuine interest and work into it. Thank you for making it :)
I kinda thought that the temple in BOTW must have been connected to the one in SkySword, just because of the the massive statue.
But seriously, I never even noticed all of the same design details before.
I never even considered any of this being related to skyward sword haha, kinda makes me feel ignorant
Only thing I noticed was the pillars
Subarashii. You didn’t notice the giant statue?
Nick Casillas Yeah me too
The problem, however, and even Zeltik admits this indirectly, is that the Master Sword isn't found in the Forgotten Temple.
Remember it's possible Lost Woods switched places with the Plateau, so if true there is nothing contradicting the theory.
Makoto Itoshi true!
This is brilliant, and this video in particular is my favourite from your channel. You have a gift for doing this. Keep it up.
In regards to the size inconsistency of the statues, one being utterly gargantuan and the other being merely pretty big, isn't it possible that the original one was broken apart and re-carved? I mean, with the sheer number of Goddess Statues scattered in various places around Breath of the Wild, it's not absurd to think that some of them are made from pieces of the original Goddess Statue from Skyward Sword, and size the one we see in the Forgotten Temple is the result of sculptors breaking pieces off to carve new statues. This would be possibly because the rock itself either is blessed, or is *viewed* as blessed. Then later, the remaining rock was carved back into the shape of Hylia.
The more I watch the more I realize *how much effort* went in to breath of the wild
Another Zelda theory! Man I love these so much! Your voice makes it all feel so epic. Thank you for making my day even better!
I agree! His voice is much more pleasing to listen to than ZeldaMaster's...
It's sad loftwings are extinct in Breath of the Wild. It would be fun to ride a huge bird.
But are they? For all we know, Skyloft could still be up there, and I don't think everyone left it. Think about it: Where do the dragons go after firing arrows at them? Through a CLOUD BARRIER. Just like the ones Link in Skyward Sword uses to travel between the Surface and Skyloft. If that magic still exists, 10 or more millennia later, why not the Loftwings?
@@diyarts9378 There's some legitimacy to your claim. And, with that recent BOTW2 trailer, we might be seeing some deeper connections to SS.
@@Xeno_Solarus The source of where the series story began. I got goosebumps right now, just from that thought.