I do believe men (and equally women) have an obligation to support their children, but I do not believe that support can only be in the form of money. A man should have an absolute choice and the right of supporting his child by simply being a dad to them, irrespective of whether he has separated from the mom. Simply put, if a man has physical custody of his child for more than 50% of the time, as a matter of right and his choice, then he should be paying no child support cash, indeed above 50% the mother should be paying child support.
@@GeeTrieste and on the flip side if a man did not agree to father a child with a woman he should have the ( equal to her ) right to step away with no legally enforced obligations to said child.
@@GeeTrieste That does sound like equality, except reality doesn't usually shake out that well. What if a kid has a chronic illness? Who takes off work to get the kid to the doctor? What if Dad just refuses? What if Dad refuses to do ANY parenting tasks during his 50% of the time? I've been around long enough to see that money and quality of life aren't the same thing. Less rules tend to be better, because life usually doesn't fit with a one size fits all payment arrangement.
@@cyberpunkalphamale In fact it's only because men are opting out that it's even a problem.. But that's a given.. Like the rain.. It will not change. Women will not change.. All we can do is stop putting up with it.
And court ordered to pay the man back for stolen cash under fraud. Let them get a dose of their own medicine. How many times we seen females get less of a sentence for same crimes Prison just isn’t good enough for the damages.
The Chameleon The following story is not mine, but a true story none the less. I ran across this story on the internet as told by “ACK Preacher”. I thought it was worth sharing in hopes of helping some of you from having to endure what this poor man did. ACK Preacher, I will issue a further note of caution -- When you meet women after college there are no checks and balances, you are essentially strangers with no common connections, you really have no idea of their history or back story -- and believe me her friends and family aren’t going to tip you off -- Add to this cell phones, social media, dating apps and this woman can tell you she is at home with the flu when she is actually in China with some other guy -- You have no clue what these people are up to -- I’ve been reasonably successful with women in my life, I consider myself to be intelligent and not very naive, I actually have a master’s degree in clinical counseling. Well long story short -- I met a girl on match, she presented (herself) as this church going Christian goody two shoes, non-drinking, nonsmoker, Polly puritan, even dressed very conservatively -- Well turns out she had another man who lived out of the country -- She would tell me she was visiting her mother or her friend (she used her boyfriend’s sisters name to keep the story straight) -- This went on for over 18 months -- I discovered the pictures of her fun times overseas and it was like a different person, thong bikinis, sexy dresses the works (just one big party) -- Even looking back I cannot say she sent red flags up the pole -- She was an expert liar and manipulator -- When she was caught I assure you the CIA with waterboarding couldn’t get a confession out of her -- probably sociopathic -- So be very careful and take the rose colored glasses off -- be humble and don’t think you are too smart to be conned --
This is why the West is failing.Asia protects it's men.In the West,our jobs are not protected they're exported,given to illegal aliens(who also get benefits that are only supposed to be given to citizens and paid for by us),there are all sorts of special visas that are given to aliens who will work for less and drive down salaries,and finally "our women" are allowed to abuse us ,take our children from us and impose a ruthless financial violence upon us without just cause.@@yesman7898
This disease is becoming a norm in Asia. Someone pls develop a vaccine soon. I don't wanna live under a 2nd dark ages. This is the reason why we can't have nice things.
That's a huge problem I see. I'm all for women to be treated fairly and as equal to men in terms of value as human beings, but when it comes to positions of power/authority/respect that comes with being of good character and taking responsibility for your life. As I believe Jordan Peterson mentioned, we talk about rights rights rights, but you can't have rights without responsibility. Most women are very poor at taking responsibility for their actions, they want the power but the price that comes with it. If we're going to give treat women the same as men, they should also be punished the same and held accountable for the same as well (not currently the case, women have advantage in court and family courts, often time getting lesser punishments, and often time being favored when it comes to divorce laws and who gets to parent the children (even if she is clearly off her rocker compared to the guy)
Chris Any country that must enslave its people in order to win a war deserves to fall. Volunteers or nothing. If there’s a war and no one wants to fight then we end the war.
One of the goals of feminism has been to remove the societal expectations of women while expecting men to continue those social expectations which benefit women
@David Chaplin no the woman should take her fucking licks and pay for the child end of story. She commited fraud once and lost her opportunity to get any sort of monetary help from a man.
That's never going to happen because theres too much money flowing through this pipeline that the government siphons money from. They arent willing to stop the flow of that money regardless of what's proven.
Anyone else see the irony that a pregnant woman has no legal responsibility to protect the unborn child and her own bodily rights come first before the unborn child. But When the child is born the woman is still not expected to have any responsibility for that childs care and all that responsibility is legally placed on the supposed father? But then if things between the 2 parents go south the woman now has all the right to not just take the child, but bar the man from contact with the child and still have them pay for the child by law. How is this the case when the woman has never had any legal responsibility to take care of that child in the first place?
They already know all of this. This is all being done intentionally by the destroyers of civilization. Now you now why past great civilizations collapsed.
What are you talking about? None of this is true. Of course a mother is legally obligated to take care of a child after it is born. Of course that means financially. And orphanages? What are you even talking about? A woman can't give a baby up for adoption without the consent of the father. Plenty of planned adoptions have fallen through when dad came into the picture. Now if dad never shows up, his abandonment is assumed (which is fair). So the adoption is still mutual- by both parents. Mom can't give a baby away without dad abandoning it or agreeing to surrender rights. If either parent wants to keep the baby, the adoption doesn't happen. Now, if mom wants to keep it and dad doesn't, she can demand child support. If dad wants to keep it and mom doesn't, dad CAN demand child support from mom. He legally absolutely has that right. And WHOEVER has custody of the child BY LAW must provide the necessities of life for that child. As for the abortion argument? Now I personally believe abortion is murder, so I want to agree with you, but of course, legally this is considered a health issue and not a custody issue. They aren't comparable. I think bodily autonomy should be a societal virtue. No forced sterilization. No forced vaccinations. No forced pregnancies.
Dont come round here with that logic and common sense, its not meant to occur to us we're just meant to work like dogs till we die ...im finally at the end of my child support, got one payment of $290 left after 18 years of 900 dollars a month for a child ive been unable to have contact with for the last 4 years because of a made up restraining order .....
Matt Saunders I hope it works out for you brother. Let’s see how much you’re valued when the payment stops. A child who can choose to see you and a woman who no longer has a right or financial benefit. This situation usually opens the child’s eyes to the truth. Hopefully you can continue your relationship where you left off and, by just being dad will convince your child of your dedication and love by just carrying on as normal. No fighting, no arguing. Just be Dad. Peace Brother
The only time I could see a nonevil reason to commit paternity fraud is if you're already married or single and have a sexual crime committed against you, become pregnant, and your partner agrees to it or you dont list a father at all. I wouldn't want a rapist having any parental rights to a child conceived by their assault. But that's a pretty slim margin of people.
@@artemisameretsu6905 Many women use raype as an excuse to commit paternity fraud it doesn't matter if you were rayped or not if you lie about the paternity of the child then you are a bad person a man has every right to know if the child is his or not
@@artemisameretsu6905 that's not an excuse for withholding that information. It's bad enough you may have exposed your partner to any diseases that other person may have transmitted to you. But you then LIE to your partner because, you know, things will work out better. That's still fraud. You can't justify defrauding someone because the lie is more advantageous... because you get the better outcome of a bad situation. That shows a complete lack of respect for your partner. Just because something terrible happened to you doesn't justify you doing something terrible to someone else.
@@smh9902 Sadly, that may be a more viable option for men in society. Since a guy is almost certainly never going to get justice, and his life will be ruined one way or the other, the only recourse is mutually assured destruction. It may even stem the problem somewhat if it becomes widespread. It would make women more cautious about taking this route.
@@Thoralmir If most men started doing this, it wouldn't be long before the patriarchy is restored. It will get bad enough that men will either walk away entirely or take womens rights away.
It is a child trust/estate aka Commercial Public Charitable Trust Account they care about and it's attached to all of us. 966 that corporate account and no more problems. Man or woman can also send a letter of revocation and domicile their name on the public record. Let the Corporate State know you are resigning from being the trust/estate agent/employee, which you were doing for free.
"It's not just fraud to the father..." Ya, because that's not enough to cause outrage at the injustice. It only counts as "fraud" when other wimmins and chillrun are affected.
You mean like the woman who started WAPF? She got divorced, and then had a baby by a lawyer. He split because he knew her ex-husband would be on the hook for child support. She is pissed that she found her golden parachute but it failed to deploy.
@@kandigirlzmagazine 2 things we should remember. 1) If all men went on strike for one week, civilization would be set back about 50 years. It would take a while to recover. Think of oil riggers, long haul drivers, manufacturing. If women tried this stunt, there would be fewer nurses and receptionists for one week. Plus kids would get a week off to party with their moms. I can live with that, 2) If there is a bank run which kills a country, the world will have a seizure. This is due to the paper fiat money needed to fuel warfare/welfare states. Taxes is how the govt steals your income. Inflation is how they steal your savings. But they didn't realize they gave us a nuclear option. 10% of the world coordinates a bank run and boom! It's over. Anyone(man or woman) will need to produce in order to consume. When things are good, men get screwed. That is what's happening. But when times are bad, we take the hit and then have it good for a little bit. Women are equal to men, until the ship starts sinking. Then it's women and children first. That unwritten contract is now confetti. Just go MGTOW and wait about 5 years. You'll be fine, trust me.
@@yamahantx7005 Thank you for the info. You always have to wonder her real motivation is when a woman does something that on the face of it would seem to benefit men the most.
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Notice that these femi-nazis never mention how unfair it is to men. They’re just pissed that some other woman is getting money they feel entitled to. Either way the man is getting screwed. Why should men care about these women??
if man's said that is a problem no body care... but if women start to said that is a problem, than we have a national emergency... now as a man try really hard to not think about yourself as a second class human being...
Oh brother, the list of stuff like this goes on and on and on. Rape victims, divorce courts, assault, domestic violence, and on and on and on it can go. A man is a victim and people either ignore it or laugh. A woman is a victim and people scramble for a way to fix it. Often, those fixes are only towards women, so men are still ignored in these fixes unless they shoehorn themselves into the solutions. Men dont have to see themselves as second class citizens, because they simply are second class citizens. Nobody cares about men without some ulterior motive except for a portion of men who havent been brainwashed or told to be benevolently sexist.
Same in Israel if you are Jewish, and the worst part it's only the religious court who approves them here and they won't approve it because a basterd in Judaism is basically a person exiled form society. For this reason proving a married man is not the father of his wife's child would make the child a basterd and they want to avoid it.
Many opponents of paternity fraud legislation claim that changing the laws isn't in the best interest of children. However, it should never be a sufficient legal argument that it is in the best interest of any child to perpetuate fraud. The child's best and only interest in paternity establishment lies in finding that child's biological fathers so they can establish a relationship. Children also need to know their genetic heritage for medical reasons. It is highly doubtful that children would feel it is in their best interest to get money from unrelated, innocent men. No one should use children as an excuse for paternity fraud.
My wife and I married after she had two kids.. and she was pregnant when we started dating...the oldest her mom was raising because my wife was 15 when she gave birth to him. we also had another child roughly 1 year after the third child was born. so four children... one not living at home with us.. we had a spat one day.. basically i caught her in a lie.. and confronted her about... we got into a arguement and i told her don't come home... she then rushed to the school pulled the kids out of the school early and moved in with her mother... we seperated for 2 years... her betrayal to me put me in a deep depression... I ended up having to move in with my parents because i had absolutely no motivation to leave the house... They only thing i tried to do on the regular was take the kids every other weekend. during this seperation.... I went to lawyer at the beheast of my father to fnd out what my right where when it came divorce and the kids.. it was at this meeting i learn a little thing that many do not know... If you provide support for any child.. regardless if you are the real father or not... the states and the governemnt will always see you as the father and you will be subjected to paying support for them no matter what. AKA should i divorce her I would be paying child support for 4 children 3 of which I didn't father and one that didn't even live with us... All because i provided support for her and the kids at one point time...we ended up reconciling our marriage but the damage has been done... I can't trust her... the kids are moved out know and we are more or less roommates now... I can't stand her sometimes but knowing how the support of children went I can't divorce her either.. cause the courts are so bais'd against men i'd end up paying alimony even tho I paid to further her education so she could provide equal finances. But i know i'll end up payng alimony because the sytem is rigged against men. so I live with a woman who i am married too but i don't actually act like i'm married too... we have not been intimate for years... togather 20 years married 18 years... been over 10 years since we shared out bodies with each other. I suffer ED for this aswell.. it has been since that arguement and me getting depressed since i had had a erection. she totally destroyed me...and I cant do anything about it really.. I'm screwed either way I go. let this be a warning to all men... women in general don't really care about you as a person...they will and can destroy you without guilt.
Shocke89 Your first mistake was giving a second look at a single mother. having kids while young, multiple fathers , mom raising her kid🤢 yuck!! How many more red flags did you want?!!? The red pill would have saved you 😣
They are already charging us upwards of $30,000 AT LEAST to give birth in a hospital, so they can not claim that an extra $200 for mandatory DNA testing is too expensive. I support enacting laws to legislate mandatory paternity DNA testing.
It’s disgusting that good men who step up are made to be victims of the court system. Unfortunately, you have to be your own advocate and demand a DNA test, no matter what the woman says. If she has nothing to hide, she will happily submit to the test in order to assuage his questions.
Perjuries, false statements and false filings are at the heart of the paternity fraud problem. If paternity fraud was a "one in a million event" our attitudes may be different, however, paternity fraud is rampant and occurring all over the world. Men should never be discouraged or feel guilty for asking for a DNA test.
I had a woman come back into my life and claim her 8 yr old son was mine. She asked if I wanted to see my son. Of course I do was my response. We met , I told her if that was my kid . He will be living with me the next 8-9 yrs. Long story short. Attorney General Required DNA test . Results Not my Child.
@@JonathanDLynch She probably justified why she did it..."I'm a poor little woman who has it so hard, I'm just trying to take care of a poor little helpless child"
I agree that mandatory testing should be done at birth. When you see the reaction of children and the father's when they find out the truth later in life, it is heartbreaking. Plus, the financial burden should be applied to the responsible party. I would support this.
She claimed I wasn't the father in court when he was almost 4. Surprise, I was, and obtained sole custody. However, I found it awfully strange how my stepmother had always thought my son and I didn't resemble one another but never mentioned anything until I asked about it and had a private DNA test. Women will protect their own at the expense of men.
In cases of paternity fraud and where the man has been imprisoned for not paying extortion money (child support) for a child who is not his. - the women, state prosecutors and the judges involved should be financially liable for wrongful imprisonment.
In Italy the things are (fortunately) different: if a man find out he isn't the true father of his children, not only he can ask to the judge to deny paternity, but he can also ask for a compensation.
Should every baby born be tested as it leaves the hospital with the parents, if only to make certain the baby wasn't mixed up at the hospital? This would protect the hospital against potential lawsuits should a mix up occur and at the same time establish genetic certainty for the parents, especially the fathers.
States should mandate in-hospital DNA testing for all newborns and should prohibit paternity establishments unless and until confirmed by DNA. Beware of in-hospital paternity acknowledgments! Where men come to the hospital after their girlfriend/significant other gives birth solely because they are led to believe that the baby is theirs. They are proud, excited, trusting, and will sign the paternity acknowledgment form without first demanding a confirmation DNA test. From that moment on...actual paternity becomes irrelevant, and the paternity fraud victim is trapped.
I think most places do tests for all babies, but the problem is that test information is the MOTHERS private property and they can not disclose the information and the man can not force to see it. Doctors/nurses know and give the information to the mother only.
The penalty for Paternity Fraud should be the repayment of money unlawfully taken + either 90 days in jail OR 3 years community service (with jail time for contempt and another 3 years community service)
It is pleasing to see this reporting finally but saddened to see women are only supporting it because it affects them financially, if it did not they dont give a shit,the language is never about this fraud hurting men it is for the children and the new wife and children the man is in the back ground not front and centre,I am feed up with female entitlement
Brett Halvorson to say that women working on paternity fraud reform are only doing so because it affects them personally and financially is not accurate. One of the Founders of Women Against Paternity Fraud has been working on this issue for 25 years and she is not personally affected by this issue at all and the other Founder fought the state of CA to get her husband out of paying child support for a child he didn't father. She worked for 8 years to change the policies in CA and during that time she certainly didn't benefit financially from doing so. We are an all-volunteer organization composed of both men and women dedicated to educating the public, media, and policymakers on the issue of paternity fraud to spark legislative changes. We have Advisory Members, interns, and volunteers who are both men and women who are not personally affected by this issue and who generously donate their time to this cause.
I am glad you produced this video exposing a very harmful practice by unscrupulous, and evil women, destroying men and their children. Today, this act of violence is not recognized as a severy crime by our laws. Indeed, something needs to change.
its a good start and all, but no amount of justice can be served to all the men who were forced to pay child support for children that wasn't theirs, specially to those men who went to jail because of paternity fraud
States are hugely incentivized to establish paternities and one man will serve as well as any other. Watch our video Federal Incentives Behind Paternity Fraud th-cam.com/video/dxYgxaXUR3Q/w-d-xo.html
Women complain sitting in a chair, made by men, in factories built and run by men. They use a computer invented and programmed by men, built in a factory by men, using electricity discovered by men, transported on a national grid of power lines that were planned and engineered, maintained and made by men, using electricity generated using methods invented by men, in power stations built by and run by men. They use the Internet, which uses protocols invented by men, transmitted over cables laid by men, in an international network invented, planned, and made by men. They are fuelled by food that was the result of farms and agriculture planned and created by men, delivered to them by global food networks and transport systems invented and built by men. They live in houses that were invented, planned and built by men, kept warm by technologies invented and built by men, in cities with roads, bridges shops and other infrastructure planned and built by men. They drink clean water piped into their houses by a national network planned and built by men, from reservoirs and treatment plants that were planned, built and run by men. They are protected by laws invented by men, and enforced by men who risk their lives every day to protect citizens and protect their country. Women enjoy the benefits of everything men discovered, invented, created and built, and are treated equally (by law) and allowed to do anything they wish in the society men created, even if lives are put at risk by allowing them to (e.g. police/fire services). And yet there are women who are so privileged and devoid of hardship that they spend their time complaining that all of this is not enough for them, that men should be ashamed, that men have too much in this society that they made, and that men need to give even more to women. And men agree to it, because they always think there's a chance of getting some pussy. Take away everything that men have done, and women would be sitting in the rain without anything to eat until a man comes and offers them shelter and food and security because he thinks he might get some action out of it.
... "and women would be sitting in the rain without anything to eat until a man comes and offers them shelter and food and security because he thinks he might get some action out of it." Nope. Not my bad. There were a very few women that gave a hand when I needed it. I'd return the favor to only them without any expectations.
this needs to be on billboards everywhere. put things into perspective for them. let them know who really built this world. men built this world, women are just living in it. when the time comes, artificial wombs and automation is the bleak future women face. never in a time in history has the monopoly on reproduction been taken away from women. that would be a real game changer
@N O is right. Most women don't know what love really is, or they have a very warped view of it. A woman is only as loyal as her options. That's why they are hypergamous by nature.
some idiots probably still exist but their numbers are shrinking rapidly. before, a man would only acknowledge the potential damage women can do when it actually happened to them. but after seeing aziz ansari, brett kavanaugh and others be dragged through hell we're coming to the realization that any one of us can be a target. so, most of us are done, we refuse to play the game because we know it's rigged and suddenly a line from wargames springs to mind: "a strange game, the only way to win is not to play"
I do believe men (and equally women) have an obligation to support their children, but I do not believe that support can only be in the form of money. A man should have an absolute choice and the right of supporting his child by simply being a dad to them, irrespective of whether he has separated from the mom. Simply put, if a man has physical custody of his child for more than 50% of the time, as a matter of right and his choice, then he should be paying no child support cash, indeed above 50% the mother should be paying child support.
They recently suspended one of my child support case, and I have another that was terminated. And now that the recent one is suspended they are asking me to bring in my daughters mother for the case that's terminated. Smh America is a bull sh*t country.
You can legislate morality. Crimes are crimes. If you commit a heinous act against someone else you should be punished accordingly to the degree in which that crime has affected the victim. Morality however should no be up to discussion, and that's the real issue. That's why we used to have taboos.
adaboy4z yeah, cause men don't get justice. We can die in the street or rot in their prison... whamen are the only ones who have protection from the state , and society. And even when they commit fraud, or go to criminal court are rarely held accountable. Definitely not to the standard men are!
Yep. My ex took me for over $75k during 8 years not counting lawyers, court costs, guardian ad litem fees, etc. If she hadn't moved to Iowa, I'd still be paying. I can prove she knowingly committed fraud. No lawyer will touch it. And yes, I was active duty at the time. Edit: sorry but I had to lol at the dude's comment about the young lady finding out who her real father is. My ex tested 5 guys after she lost the meal ticket of my income. None were her boy's father.
Paladinbr wtf how many guys was she sleeping with at the time? If there’s a question mark over who the father is the woman will probably just pick the highest earner. Mandatory dna tests need to be done before a man pays a single cent for a child that may or not be his. If there’s no dna proof then the woman gets nothing! Why is that so difficult to do?
@@jollytotjuice yes, she chose the highest earner, who also had the stability of military benefits. That was me. Of the 5 she tested, three were in the keeping of the state at the time. Of course, I didn't know about any of them; she got busy right after I left to meet my ship, which was already on station. But to answer your question, she must have slept with at least 6 males besides me in a one week window. She didn't waste time. Edit: I agree with mandatory DNA testing at childbirth to overturn paternity based on marriage. And yes, we were married.
Scary stuff. That's part of why I stopped dating back in 2009. It's not all bad though. Without the drag factor of supporting a woman, her kids (and her divorce lawyer) I did alright. I retired 7 months ago at age 54.
You know there's a VERY easy way to sneak this by. Have all healthcare require a DNA test for identity purposes. That way you can get the sample for a song and it can also be used as ID in case of a terrible accident.
I think the most concerning thing is that across the board is is being made explicitly clear that our courts do not intend to hold women accountable for paternity fraud. The message has been received and it is now open season for those with the malice to do it. This should be a criminal charge, and it should supersede any ridiculous family court opinions.
The proposed Federal law should look something like this: No father's name shall be placed on Live Birth Certificates WITHOUT DNA testing to prove Paternity. No Voluntary AOP (Acknowledgement of Paternity) Forms shall be allowed by any State. Mothers who are: 1. Married DO NOT have the right to refuse DNA testing. 2. Unmarried but name a father either in a Child Support case or by applying for any SNAP/WIC/ Welfare/Medicaid or any State benefits shall not have the right to refuse a DNA test to prove paternity PRIOR to receiving any benefits from State, Local, or Federal resources or from the putative father. a. In 1 and 2 above Mothers who REFUSE to submit said child to DNA testing FOREVER lose the right to submit any case before any court for child support of said child or apply for any Federal/State programs mention above in 1 for said child UNTIL such time as the BIOLOGICAL Father has been identified by DNA Test at the Mothers cost solely. 3. If married but the spouse is proven by DNA testing to NOT be the biological father he SHALL NOT ever be subject to providing any support for the child unless he voluntarily LEGALLY adopts said child. This shall also serve in ALL States as a Fault Based reason for Divorce where NO Alimony/Maintenance shall be awarded. 4. For children born prior to the effective date of this Act: In divorce cases: 1. DNA testing SHALL BE performed on every child without fail to establish paternity for the subject of child support. 2. In the cases that children that were born and the Husband is NOT the Biological Father unless Legally Adopted there shall be NO CHILD SUPPORT for those children awarded at any time. Additionally children who are NOT the biological child of said Husband that has his LEGAL Last Name shall have their last name LEGALLY changed to their mothers MAIDEN name by the COURT automatically and SHALL lose any rights of inheritance from the Husband. Additionally in cases where the wife broke the sanctity of the Marriage and passed off her Illicit offspring as her Husbands biological children there will be NO Alimony/Maintenance awarded under ANY circumstances. Regardless of who filed for divorce and why, these cases SHALL AUTOMATCALLY be changed into FAULT BASED Divorce where all debts are split 50%/50% and any fully owned property or accounts shall be split 75%/25% in favor of the Husband and any pensions/retirements held by the Husband SHALL NOT be subject to division and SHALL be considered his SOLE and SEPARATE property. In case of Paternity being established without DNA testing PRIOR to this Act by any court OR Voluntary AOP: 1. Men who are currently paying Child Support shall have the right to: A. Have a DNA test done to prove Paternity: If Paternity is disproved by DNA Test Family courts SHALL: Immediately stop Child Support payments, Garnishments, and back Child Support shall be dismissed in its entirety. B. If Child Support payer has been: Jailed, Charged with Felonies or any other Legalities connected to the Child Support case: These shall be PERMANENTLY wiped clean from their record in ALL FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, and LOCAL data bases. C. All monies that have been taken from Child Support Payer SHALL BE: Returned within 30 days by the State agency enforcing and collecting Child Support orders within each State along with Statutory interest of 5% per Annum. These monies shall not be subject to any tax of any kind by Federal, State, Local, or Municipality Taxes. D. In the cases of where child support payments have been made but the payments have been stopped due to the child reaching Majority age if requested by the putative father a DNA test Shall BE administered by the court and if paternity is disproven regardless of how long ago the Child Support ended all of Part C. above shall apply. Adult Children in these cases SHALL NOT have the right to refuse testing. E. In C and D State Child Support agencies shall have the ability to recover such monies from the mother unless she can prove by DNA test who the Biological father is. In such cases the Mother shall STILL be Responsible for 50% of Monies to be recovered by the State. F. Additionally in cases where divorce has happened and a QDRO order is in place the Court SHALL AUTOMATICALLY vacate that judgement and this information will be sent to the retirement plan, the Social Security Administration and all claims by the Ex wife to his Social Security Benefits shall be revoked along with any Survivor Benefits by said children. IF Spousal Support/Maintenance is being paid it also shall be AUTOMATICALLY voided by the COURT. States that refuse to follow this ACT: Face immediate termination of ALL Title IV Act monies until they come into compliance with this ACT. This act overrides the Bradley Amendment Act and Title IV Act parts that are in conflict with this ACT. Family Court Judges who refuse to follow this ACT regardless of whether the State is in compliance with this ACT or not SHALL BE: Subject to Arrest by Federal Officers and trial by the Federal Govt. If found guilty of subverting this ACT Shall be subject to: Not less than 10 years in a Maximum Security Federal Prison in General Population only AND $100,000.00 fine
This comment outlines the problem EXACTLY! But the instant you float the idea that women voted for all of this and that's the root of the problem, the so called anti-feminist women turn against you.
I don't think most women really understand what it's like to be a man and for a woman to do this to you. It's worse then a man raping a woman as, traumatic though it is, it's over quickly (although there may be lingering physiological damage, of course). Imagine not only being raped (violated on a deep emotional level) but having to pay your rapist for the next two decades for a child that isn't yours - that isn't even furthering your genetic survival. All of that time, effort, work, etc that you are forced to give to someone who did something both traumatizing to you and outright evil and, even worse, greatly deminshing your chances of ever having children of your own (most quality women aren't going to want to get involved with a man who has things like child support payments hanging over him). On top of that, society and the people in government not only support your rapist, but think of you as a deadbeat, lazy, irresponsible person for not wanting anything to do with your rapist or that child. It might not be a perfect analogy but this is probably the closest description I can think of for what it's like to be a man and find out the woman you trusted and have invested huge amounts of time, money, effort, etc. into by providing her with a home and the things she wants has betrayed you in the worse way one person can betray another.
None of these women would have said anything if it had not effected them and their men. They are just mad that they don't have access to all thier husbands money.
My husband was named legally by a paternity fraudster early in our relationship. We are in New Zealand, not USA. We demanded DNA test which was delayed for a few months after the child's birth. The mother posted public pictures naming my husband (then boyfriend),and he copped a lot of criticism and hate for 'abandoning ' his responsibility etc to her and the child. We knew there was other possible fathers, and knew she had lied about due dates to pin it on my husband only. DNA proved him not the father.. But in the meantime she had sworn in family court that he was the only possibility etc,and sucked in his parents who gave her items to help her live alone as single parent. As far as we know..the other candidates were never notified to at least do DNA tests. A couple of years later we were informed by her ex husband and another ex boyfriend, both whom lived with her and the child for a few months after the fact, one told us she said the DNA was faulty, that my husband was definitely the father .and the other guy told us that she said she didn't know whi the father was, that it was 1night stand,which was rubbish. The 3 men who had been sleeping with her during time of conception were frequent visitors of hers.my husband included. This was 13yrs ago. It's just awful that the real biological family has missed out due to the lies and delusion. We paid 3thousand for DNA and lawyers. Worst part is she went on to have another 2 children and apparently lied about due dates with them as well and potentially multiple fathers in the mix,with 1 believing its him. DNA should be done for every live birth regardless. Obviously there's multiple reasons why mothers lie about paternity ,incest and rape being a fair reason in my opinion. But sealed birth records should include DNA and available to government departments should child support or medical needs ever come into the equation. False claims like ours should be at least partially reimbursed by the mother for not naming all potential fathers. Its fair that my then boyfriend had to pay something because he had indeed used her for sex, as did the other men for some time. I don't believe jail is helpful unless she's proven to be unfit dangerous mother also.
EVERY WOMEN THAT MAKE PATERNITY FRAUD MUST BE MANDATORY PUNISHED BY 10 YEARS IN JAIL AND HER CHILD MUST BE PROTECTED FROM HER COZ SHE IS DISGUSTING ABUSER!!!
@@salemsaberhagen8390 why even waste resources and effort in imprisoning them? why not just give them a post-birth abortion which they seem to be in favor of
If I found out my father was not my biological father because my mother had been unfaithful, I would have cut contact with my mother for life.. The last words she would have heard from my lips would have been that I wouldn't even attend her funeral when that time came.. Such an act is unforgivable in my eyes. Fortunately I am not worried about this, because I am physically very similar to my father, grandfather, uncle and that entire side of the family.
Knew a man that had a vasectomy after his first marriage. He didn't tell any of his future partners. He had 5 partners over the next 20+ years tell him "Congratulations honey. I'm pregnant." Each time he laughed in their face, told them about the vasectomy, told them to pack their bags and GTFO. Moral of the story: Never trust a woman.
Women: Deliberately ignore male victims of many issues luike rape and domestic violence, because if they get more support from people if people believe it to be a women's issue. Men: Need to show that tons of other people are effected because if it was only a men's issue, nobody would would waste a thought on it.
I love how many get to pay for childeren that aren't biologically theirs but not allowed a say in abortion! Don't you guys just love the equality that feminism has brought us!?!?
And I agree with the other comments that it is really pathetic that a man’s voice on this topic is always ignored and it only gets attention if the argument is fronted by women and based on the harm it does women and their children. A man’s voice DOES matter, and the harm to the man is enough, by itself, to fight against paternity fraud. Today’s rules are killing the possibility of there ever again being good relationships between men and women.
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End child support without biological support
It's legalized modern day slavery.
AMEN!!!
I do believe men (and equally women) have an obligation to support their children, but I do not believe that support can only be in the form of money.
A man should have an absolute choice and the right of supporting his child by simply being a dad to them, irrespective of whether he has separated from the mom. Simply put, if a man has physical custody of his child for more than 50% of the time, as a matter of right and his choice, then he should be paying no child support cash, indeed above 50% the mother should be paying child support.
@@GeeTrieste and on the flip side if a man did not agree to father a child with a woman he should have the ( equal to her ) right to step away with no legally enforced obligations to said child.
@@GeeTrieste That does sound like equality, except reality doesn't usually shake out that well. What if a kid has a chronic illness? Who takes off work to get the kid to the doctor? What if Dad just refuses? What if Dad refuses to do ANY parenting tasks during his 50% of the time? I've been around long enough to see that money and quality of life aren't the same thing. Less rules tend to be better, because life usually doesn't fit with a one size fits all payment arrangement.
The fact you need women to front shows just how little society values men.
Sh0t ok then remove baby mamas
@@cyberpunkalphamale
In fact it's only because men are opting out that it's even a problem.. But that's a given.. Like the rain.. It will not change. Women will not change.. All we can do is stop putting up with it.
Exactly.
Fighting fire with fire is the first step in destroying a raging inferno.
this comment is pure truth and hits the real issue.
How about throwing some of these lying, cheating, heartless women who falsely name a man in prison? I guarantee a marked drop in paternity fraud.
Christopher Jacques step one: rip their ovaries out, they don’t deserve them.
Step 2 : drop them off in Pakistan
I agree and wish it so but who will raise the child(ren) while she's serving time?
And court ordered to pay the man back for stolen cash under fraud. Let them get a dose of their own medicine. How many times we seen females get less of a sentence for same crimes Prison just isn’t good enough for the damages.
Carl Johnson I remember my first beer too.
The Chameleon
The following story is not mine, but a true story none the less. I ran across this story on the internet as told by “ACK Preacher”.
I thought it was worth sharing in hopes of helping some of you from having to endure what this poor man did.
ACK Preacher,
I will issue a further note of caution -- When you meet women after college there are no checks and balances, you are essentially strangers with no common connections, you really have no idea of their history or back story -- and believe me her friends and family aren’t going to tip you off -- Add to this cell phones, social media, dating apps and this woman can tell you she is at home with the flu when she is actually in China with some other guy -- You have no clue what these people are up to -- I’ve been reasonably successful with women in my life, I consider myself to be intelligent and not very naive, I actually have a master’s degree in clinical counseling. Well long story short -- I met a girl on match, she presented (herself) as this church going Christian goody two shoes, non-drinking, nonsmoker, Polly puritan, even dressed very conservatively -- Well turns out she had another man who lived out of the country -- She would tell me she was visiting her mother or her friend (she used her boyfriend’s sisters name to keep the story straight) -- This went on for over 18 months -- I discovered the pictures of her fun times overseas and it was like a different person, thong bikinis, sexy dresses the works (just one big party) -- Even looking back I cannot say she sent red flags up the pole -- She was an expert liar and manipulator -- When she was caught I assure you the CIA with waterboarding couldn’t get a confession out of her -- probably sociopathic -- So be very careful and take the rose colored glasses off -- be humble and don’t think you are too smart to be conned --
I live in Thailand.Before a woman can declare the father on a birth certificate,the must be a paternity test.
That's what I like about Thailand.
ประเทศไทยดีที่สุด
Based
One good law Thailand has correct, better than all western countries! Good law.
This is why the West is failing.Asia protects it's men.In the West,our jobs are not protected they're exported,given to illegal aliens(who also get benefits that are only supposed to be given to citizens and paid for by us),there are all sorts of special visas that are given to aliens who will work for less and drive down salaries,and finally "our women" are allowed to abuse us ,take our children from us and impose a ruthless financial violence upon us without just cause.@@yesman7898
It's all about protecting women from being accountable. They demanded sexual liberation and freedom but, they don't want accountability
@Rudy O'Brien There should be no draft, period. It is cruel to force a man to sacrifice his life without his consent.
This disease is becoming a norm in Asia. Someone pls develop a vaccine soon. I don't wanna live under a 2nd dark ages.
This is the reason why we can't have nice things.
That's a huge problem I see. I'm all for women to be treated fairly and as equal to men in terms of value as human beings, but when it comes to positions of power/authority/respect that comes with being of good character and taking responsibility for your life. As I believe Jordan Peterson mentioned, we talk about rights rights rights, but you can't have rights without responsibility. Most women are very poor at taking responsibility for their actions, they want the power but the price that comes with it. If we're going to give treat women the same as men, they should also be punished the same and held accountable for the same as well (not currently the case, women have advantage in court and family courts, often time getting lesser punishments, and often time being favored when it comes to divorce laws and who gets to parent the children (even if she is clearly off her rocker compared to the guy)
Chris Any country that must enslave its people in order to win a war deserves to fall. Volunteers or nothing. If there’s a war and no one wants to fight then we end the war.
One of the goals of feminism has been to remove the societal expectations of women while expecting men to continue those social expectations which benefit women
Things will never change in our misandric, gynocentric society. Women have it too good, and will never give up their extra privileges and advantages.
Sad but true...
Until the Latinos takeover
They don't have to. You just opt out and let nature take its course.
How many Muslims men have been victim of paternity fraud.
@@mkmobilegaminginthephilippines
I doubt very many, because they kill people for fucking around like that
When DNA test is done proving the man is not the father. Child support should stop and he should be paid back with interest.
@David Chaplin no the woman should take her fucking licks and pay for the child end of story. She commited fraud once and lost her opportunity to get any sort of monetary help from a man.
That's never going to happen because theres too much money flowing through this pipeline that the government siphons money from. They arent willing to stop the flow of that money regardless of what's proven.
If a year pass DNA test result have no effect. You have to support it for 18 years.
the father should pay the vendor with invoices.
@@thescentprofiler5539 the father should pay the vendor with invoices.
Anyone else see the irony that a pregnant woman has no legal responsibility to protect the unborn child and her own bodily rights come first before the unborn child. But When the child is born the woman is still not expected to have any responsibility for that childs care and all that responsibility is legally placed on the supposed father? But then if things between the 2 parents go south the woman now has all the right to not just take the child, but bar the man from contact with the child and still have them pay for the child by law. How is this the case when the woman has never had any legal responsibility to take care of that child in the first place?
They already know all of this. This is all being done intentionally by the destroyers of civilization. Now you now why past great civilizations collapsed.
What are you talking about? None of this is true. Of course a mother is legally obligated to take care of a child after it is born. Of course that means financially. And orphanages? What are you even talking about? A woman can't give a baby up for adoption without the consent of the father. Plenty of planned adoptions have fallen through when dad came into the picture. Now if dad never shows up, his abandonment is assumed (which is fair). So the adoption is still mutual- by both parents. Mom can't give a baby away without dad abandoning it or agreeing to surrender rights. If either parent wants to keep the baby, the adoption doesn't happen. Now, if mom wants to keep it and dad doesn't, she can demand child support. If dad wants to keep it and mom doesn't, dad CAN demand child support from mom. He legally absolutely has that right. And WHOEVER has custody of the child BY LAW must provide the necessities of life for that child.
As for the abortion argument? Now I personally believe abortion is murder, so I want to agree with you, but of course, legally this is considered a health issue and not a custody issue. They aren't comparable. I think bodily autonomy should be a societal virtue. No forced sterilization. No forced vaccinations. No forced pregnancies.
Again, a woman has EVERY legal responsibility to take care of a child. To say otherwise is absurd.
Dont come round here with that logic and common sense, its not meant to occur to us we're just meant to work like dogs till we die ...im finally at the end of my child support, got one payment of $290 left after 18 years of 900 dollars a month for a child ive been unable to have contact with for the last 4 years because of a made up restraining order .....
Matt Saunders I hope it works out for you brother. Let’s see how much you’re valued when the payment stops. A child who can choose to see you and a woman who no longer has a right or financial benefit. This situation usually opens the child’s eyes to the truth. Hopefully you can continue your relationship where you left off and, by just being dad will convince your child of your dedication and love by just carrying on as normal. No fighting, no arguing. Just be Dad. Peace Brother
So if women talk about it everyone's on board, but if men talk about it were whiners.
Correct.
@DaToNyOyO That's mental gymnastics and I being polite here.
Pretty much
Yes. Women want that money.
Tonya Antony truth always sounds awful when women are held accountable doesn’t it too you...huge surprise...
I can't think of any non-evil reasons why women would oppose paternity fraud reform.
The only time I could see a nonevil reason to commit paternity fraud is if you're already married or single and have a sexual crime committed against you, become pregnant, and your partner agrees to it or you dont list a father at all.
I wouldn't want a rapist having any parental rights to a child conceived by their assault.
But that's a pretty slim margin of people.
@@artemisameretsu6905 Many women use raype as an excuse to commit paternity fraud it doesn't matter if you were rayped or not if you lie about the paternity of the child then you are a bad person a man has every right to know if the child is his or not
@@artemisameretsu6905 that's not an excuse for withholding that information. It's bad enough you may have exposed your partner to any diseases that other person may have transmitted to you. But you then LIE to your partner because, you know, things will work out better. That's still fraud. You can't justify defrauding someone because the lie is more advantageous... because you get the better outcome of a bad situation. That shows a complete lack of respect for your partner. Just because something terrible happened to you doesn't justify you doing something terrible to someone else.
I would rather go to Jail than pay for a child that is not mine. Just take me to Prison .
AGREED.
Ogre MGTOW....100% agree with you.
@@smh9902 Sadly, that may be a more viable option for men in society. Since a guy is almost certainly never going to get justice, and his life will be ruined one way or the other, the only recourse is mutually assured destruction. It may even stem the problem somewhat if it becomes widespread. It would make women more cautious about taking this route.
@@Thoralmir If most men started doing this, it wouldn't be long before the patriarchy is restored. It will get bad enough that men will either walk away entirely or take womens rights away.
It is a child trust/estate aka Commercial Public Charitable Trust Account they care about and it's attached to all of us. 966 that corporate account and no more problems. Man or woman can also send a letter of revocation and domicile their name on the public record. Let the Corporate State know you are resigning from being the trust/estate agent/employee, which you were doing for free.
"It's not just fraud to the father..."
Ya, because that's not enough to cause outrage at the injustice.
It only counts as "fraud" when other wimmins and chillrun are affected.
You mean like the woman who started WAPF?
She got divorced, and then had a baby by a lawyer. He split because he knew her ex-husband would be on the hook for child support. She is pissed that she found her golden parachute but it failed to deploy.
Unfortunately you have to appeal to other groups because nobody gives a shit about men. Since we have it so “great”
@@kandigirlzmagazine
2 things we should remember.
1) If all men went on strike for one week, civilization would be set back about 50 years. It would take a while to recover. Think of oil riggers, long haul drivers, manufacturing. If women tried this stunt, there would be fewer nurses and receptionists for one week. Plus kids would get a week off to party with their moms. I can live with that,
2) If there is a bank run which kills a country, the world will have a seizure. This is due to the paper fiat money needed to fuel warfare/welfare states. Taxes is how the govt steals your income. Inflation is how they steal your savings. But they didn't realize they gave us a nuclear option. 10% of the world coordinates a bank run and boom! It's over. Anyone(man or woman) will need to produce in order to consume.
When things are good, men get screwed. That is what's happening. But when times are bad, we take the hit and then have it good for a little bit. Women are equal to men, until the ship starts sinking. Then it's women and children first. That unwritten contract is now confetti. Just go MGTOW and wait about 5 years. You'll be fine, trust me.
True.
@@yamahantx7005 Thank you for the info. You always have to wonder her real motivation is when a woman does something that on the face of it would seem to benefit men the most.
Notice that these femi-nazis never mention how unfair it is to men. They’re just pissed that some other woman is getting money they feel entitled to. Either way the man is getting screwed. Why should men care about these women??
if man's said that is a problem no body care... but if women start to said that is a problem, than we have a national emergency... now as a man try really hard to not think about yourself as a second class human being...
Oh brother, the list of stuff like this goes on and on and on. Rape victims, divorce courts, assault, domestic violence, and on and on and on it can go. A man is a victim and people either ignore it or laugh. A woman is a victim and people scramble for a way to fix it. Often, those fixes are only towards women, so men are still ignored in these fixes unless they shoehorn themselves into the solutions. Men dont have to see themselves as second class citizens, because they simply are second class citizens. Nobody cares about men without some ulterior motive except for a portion of men who havent been brainwashed or told to be benevolently sexist.
In France it is now illegal to perform paternity tests without court permission.
They don't want to "disrupt" families.
Disgusting
Can the country be sued into a reversal of this discriminatory sexist law?
Same in Israel if you are Jewish, and the worst part it's only the religious court who approves them here and they won't approve it because a basterd in Judaism is basically a person exiled form society. For this reason proving a married man is not the father of his wife's child would make the child a basterd and they want to avoid it.
Many opponents of paternity fraud legislation claim that changing the laws isn't in the best interest of children. However, it should never be a sufficient legal argument that it is in the best interest of any child to perpetuate fraud. The child's best and only interest in paternity establishment lies in finding that child's biological fathers so they can establish a relationship. Children also need to know their genetic heritage for medical reasons. It is highly doubtful that children would feel it is in their best interest to get money from unrelated, innocent men. No one should use children as an excuse for paternity fraud.
Already in several states in the United states and expect more. F the state
My wife and I married after she had two kids.. and she was pregnant when we started dating...the oldest her mom was raising because my wife was 15 when she gave birth to him. we also had another child roughly 1 year after the third child was born. so four children... one not living at home with us.. we had a spat one day.. basically i caught her in a lie.. and confronted her about... we got into a arguement and i told her don't come home... she then rushed to the school pulled the kids out of the school early and moved in with her mother... we seperated for 2 years... her betrayal to me put me in a deep depression... I ended up having to move in with my parents because i had absolutely no motivation to leave the house... They only thing i tried to do on the regular was take the kids every other weekend. during this seperation.... I went to lawyer at the beheast of my father to fnd out what my right where when it came divorce and the kids.. it was at this meeting i learn a little thing that many do not know... If you provide support for any child.. regardless if you are the real father or not... the states and the governemnt will always see you as the father and you will be subjected to paying support for them no matter what. AKA should i divorce her I would be paying child support for 4 children 3 of which I didn't father and one that didn't even live with us... All because i provided support for her and the kids at one point time...we ended up reconciling our marriage but the damage has been done... I can't trust her... the kids are moved out know and we are more or less roommates now... I can't stand her sometimes but knowing how the support of children went I can't divorce her either.. cause the courts are so bais'd against men i'd end up paying alimony even tho I paid to further her education so she could provide equal finances. But i know i'll end up payng alimony because the sytem is rigged against men. so I live with a woman who i am married too but i don't actually act like i'm married too... we have not been intimate for years... togather 20 years married 18 years... been over 10 years since we shared out bodies with each other. I suffer ED for this aswell.. it has been since that arguement and me getting depressed since i had had a erection. she totally destroyed me...and I cant do anything about it really.. I'm screwed either way I go. let this be a warning to all men... women in general don't really care about you as a person...they will and can destroy you without guilt.
Shocke89
Your first mistake was giving a second look at a single mother. having kids while young, multiple fathers , mom raising her kid🤢 yuck!! How many more red flags did you want?!!? The red pill would have saved you 😣
I remember hearing that in USA if you are married longer than 10 years you have to pay alimony for life ? If not married that long divorce now !
@@keiththompson2172 Yes in some states like California. As well as not only alimony but also part of the pension.
They will and they do. Problem with most younger men, they will think they're the chosen one, till the marital courts got the high ground.
@@Watchingyoutube-x6o Sadly the government will come after you.
MEN, DO NOT MARRY! what more do you need to know!
Better, stop interacting with women.
@@TheMops14 That's an unrealistic expectation. Ghosting in plain sight, this is the way.
Go Greek.
@Tai Y true
@@macrick this is the way
They are already charging us upwards of $30,000 AT LEAST to give birth in a hospital, so they can not claim that an extra $200 for mandatory DNA testing is too expensive. I support enacting laws to legislate mandatory paternity DNA testing.
They do test, the doctors and nurses know... they test them and give the information to the mother ... and only the mother.
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@@aivideos322 bullshit , you must not live in the United States
The government should pay, they already pay welfare for illegitimate children now, what's the difference.
It’s disgusting that good men who step up are made to be victims of the court system. Unfortunately, you have to be your own advocate and demand a DNA test, no matter what the woman says. If she has nothing to hide, she will happily submit to the test in order to assuage his questions.
Perjuries, false statements and false filings are at the heart of the paternity fraud problem. If paternity fraud was a "one in a million event" our attitudes may be different, however, paternity fraud is rampant and occurring all over the world. Men should never be discouraged or feel guilty for asking for a DNA test.
@Heywood Jablowme It's built in...a survival mechanism because the truth would have them exiled from the tribe..and certain death...
Same with a prenup...the only women that take offence are those that prenups were designed for to begin with.
I had a woman come back into my life and claim her 8 yr old son was mine. She asked if I wanted to see my son. Of course I do was my response. We met , I told her if that was my kid . He will be living with me the next 8-9 yrs. Long story short. Attorney General Required DNA test . Results Not my Child.
Probably she wanted your money
Did she apologize?
@@JonathanDLynch She probably justified why she did it..."I'm a poor little woman who has it so hard, I'm just trying to take care of a poor little helpless child"
no @@JonathanDLynch
That’s so fucked up. She should grow a conscience.
I agree that mandatory testing should be done at birth. When you see the reaction of children and the father's when they find out the truth later in life, it is heartbreaking. Plus, the financial burden should be applied to the responsible party. I would support this.
She claimed I wasn't the father in court when he was almost 4. Surprise, I was, and obtained sole custody. However, I found it awfully strange how my stepmother had always thought my son and I didn't resemble one another but never mentioned anything until I asked about it and had a private DNA test. Women will protect their own at the expense of men.
Thank you so much for this. As s victim myself I suffer from the financial, emotional and mental trauma of PF. This helps a lot.
My dad has been the father to my 15 year old sister; only to now find out she isnt even his. I despise my mum for it.
J Galaxar's channel Please tell me where I stated I gave a shit what you think.
And women wonder where all the good men have gone. We are going our own way. Too much risk.
best choice of your life.
you see how but hurt sheeeeeIS .it works🙂
In cases of paternity fraud and where the man has been imprisoned for not paying extortion money (child support) for a child who is not his. - the women, state prosecutors and the judges involved should be financially liable for wrongful imprisonment.
They should be incarcerated as well!
In Italy the things are (fortunately) different: if a man find out he isn't the true father of his children, not only he can ask to the judge to deny paternity, but he can also ask for a compensation.
Should every baby born be tested as it leaves the hospital with the parents, if only to make certain the baby wasn't mixed up at the hospital? This would protect the hospital against potential lawsuits should a mix up occur and at the same time establish genetic certainty for the parents, especially the fathers.
States should mandate in-hospital DNA testing for all newborns and should prohibit paternity establishments unless and until confirmed by DNA. Beware of in-hospital paternity acknowledgments! Where men come to the hospital after their girlfriend/significant other gives birth solely because they are led to believe that the baby is theirs. They are proud, excited, trusting, and will sign the paternity acknowledgment form without first demanding a confirmation DNA test. From that moment on...actual paternity becomes irrelevant, and the paternity fraud victim is trapped.
I think most places do tests for all babies, but the problem is that test information is the MOTHERS private property and they can not disclose the information and the man can not force to see it. Doctors/nurses know and give the information to the mother only.
With gynocentric laws written as-is right now, how can any man tell which woman won't destroy his life through legal or social means?....
You tell me.
Russian roulette with full chambers, you only win if the gun jams.
The penalty for Paternity Fraud should be the repayment of money unlawfully taken + either 90 days in jail OR 3 years community service (with jail time for contempt and another 3 years community service)
Death Penalty without a doubt.
It is pleasing to see this reporting finally but saddened to see women are only supporting it because it affects them financially, if it did not they dont give a shit,the language is never about this fraud hurting men it is for the children and the new wife and children the man is in the back ground not front and centre,I am feed up with female entitlement
Brett Halvorson to say that women working on paternity fraud reform are only doing so because it affects them personally and financially is not accurate. One of the Founders of Women Against Paternity Fraud has been working on this issue for 25 years and she is not personally affected by this issue at all and the other Founder fought the state of CA to get her husband out of paying child support for a child he didn't father. She worked for 8 years to change the policies in CA and during that time she certainly didn't benefit financially from doing so. We are an all-volunteer organization composed of both men and women dedicated to educating the public, media, and policymakers on the issue of paternity fraud to spark legislative changes. We have Advisory Members, interns, and volunteers who are both men and women who are not personally affected by this issue and who generously donate their time to this cause.
12k views on this video
12M views on a twerking video
Priorities guys...?🤔🤔
@Shades of Blue True. Very True
Algorithms dude
Algorithmic filtering is likely burying it. Silicon Valley is the Blue Church's censorship engine.
@Michael David 1000%
this is the reason I'm no longer able to be around my daughter.
it's the abuse they call it, when you try to make strong humans.
I've been saying, women will continue this behavior, until other women speak up. Hat's off to you!
They're only interested in a niche market for income.
Everyone should share this video.
It's a gross miscarriage of Justice to force someone to pay for a child that is proven to be fathered by someone else.
That's why France decided ban paternity tests. Can't be injustice if no one can see it.
This needs to be seen by a LOT more people!
And you wonder why men ghost???
I am glad you produced this video exposing a very harmful practice by unscrupulous, and evil women, destroying men and their children. Today, this act of violence is not recognized as a severy crime by our laws. Indeed, something needs to change.
lol, man goes to jail, the women in his life most affected.
its a good start and all, but no amount of justice can be served to all the men who were forced to pay child support for children that wasn't theirs, specially to those men who went to jail because of paternity fraud
The lawyers are always the winners!
States are hugely incentivized to establish paternities and one man will serve as well as any other. Watch our video Federal Incentives Behind Paternity Fraud th-cam.com/video/dxYgxaXUR3Q/w-d-xo.html
I am currently going through a paternity fraud case with a lady with a screw lose god help us men who are truthful
mandatory jail time for women who lie about the paternity of the child PERIOD !!!!!!
Good film and so very important. Thanks
Women complain sitting in a chair, made by men, in factories built and run by men. They use a computer invented and programmed by men, built in a factory by men, using electricity discovered by men, transported on a national grid of power lines that were planned and engineered, maintained and made by men, using electricity generated using methods invented by men, in power stations built by and run by men.
They use the Internet, which uses protocols invented by men, transmitted over cables laid by men, in an international network invented, planned, and made by men. They are fuelled by food that was the result of farms and agriculture planned and created by men, delivered to them by global food networks and transport systems invented and built by men. They live in houses that were invented, planned and built by men, kept warm by technologies invented and built by men, in cities with roads, bridges shops and other infrastructure planned and built by men.
They drink clean water piped into their houses by a national network planned and built by men, from reservoirs and treatment plants that were planned, built and run by men. They are protected by laws invented by men, and enforced by men who risk their lives every day to protect citizens and protect their country.
Women enjoy the benefits of everything men discovered, invented, created and built, and are treated equally (by law) and allowed to do anything they wish in the society men created, even if lives are put at risk by allowing them to (e.g. police/fire services). And yet there are women who are so privileged and devoid of hardship that they spend their time complaining that all of this is not enough for them, that men should be ashamed, that men have too much in this society that they made, and that men need to give even more to women. And men agree to it, because they always think there's a chance of getting some pussy.
Take away everything that men have done, and women would be sitting in the rain without anything to eat until a man comes and offers them shelter and food and security because he thinks he might get some action out of it.
@Natasel How much of a Bitch Constant is present in a Constant Bitch?
... "and women would be sitting in the rain without anything to eat until a man comes and offers them shelter and food and security because he thinks he might get some action out of it."
Nope. Not my bad. There were a very few women that gave a hand when I needed it. I'd return the favor to only them without any expectations.
@@mgtowhubproject8786
Sorry I dont understand your comment?
@@LiftOffLife Never mind. More of a talking to myself than a response to you
this needs to be on billboards everywhere. put things into perspective for them. let them know who really built this world. men built this world, women are just living in it. when the time comes, artificial wombs and automation is the bleak future women face. never in a time in history has the monopoly on reproduction been taken away from women. that would be a real game changer
Fellas if you aren't sleeping with her someone else is
If she refuses to sleep with you, she IS fucking someone else.
@N O is right. Most women don't know what love really is, or they have a very warped view of it. A woman is only as loyal as her options. That's why they are hypergamous by nature.
leah... how old are you? How do you have 10 subs with NO content? Not even a playlist?
@leah rose typical never responsible behaviour.
T shirt that. What a eye opener. If she not sleeping with you. She sleeping with someone else. Wow
When society stops valuing men it dies.
Wow! I'm stunned they make people pay for a child that isn't theirs - on what premise?
Passing the buck
Education alone will NOT bring an end to paternity fraud. Penalizing the perpetrators will.
I had a woman attempt this on me. I got saved by mandatory state paternity testing.
Dufoth Which state. I'd love to raise my son there.
This video needs more attention.
"Mommy.... who's my real daddy"?
So they had to make the case that women and other members of the family (women) are affected too so that people would care!?
Maybe women should actually be faithful and honest.
won't happen unless the punishment for paternity fraud is execution. then you'd start seeing more loyal and honest women.
Having secrets is fine. Scamming people with your secrets is not ok.
Is there a man out there that now thinks a piece of tail was worth it? This is what promiscuity produces.
some idiots probably still exist but their numbers are shrinking rapidly. before, a man would only acknowledge the potential damage women can do when it actually happened to them. but after seeing aziz ansari, brett kavanaugh and others be dragged through hell we're coming to the realization that any one of us can be a target. so, most of us are done, we refuse to play the game because we know it's rigged and suddenly a line from wargames springs to mind: "a strange game, the only way to win is not to play"
Nah, the smart ones will not pay.
Women who commit paternity fraud need to be in prison.
Penalties should be imposed on both individuals or government employees who perpetrate paternity fraud.
I do believe men (and equally women) have an obligation to support their children, but I do not believe that support can only be in the form of money.
A man should have an absolute choice and the right of supporting his child by simply being a dad to them, irrespective of whether he has separated from the mom. Simply put, if a man has physical custody of his child for more than 50% of the time, as a matter of right and his choice, then he should be paying no child support cash, indeed above 50% the mother should be paying child support.
Any judge that would force a man to pay for a child that isn't his deserves to be hung out behind the courthouse by an angry mob.
Exactly!!!
Great video, DNA tests should be mandatory at birth.
They recently suspended one of my child support case, and I have another that was terminated. And now that the recent one is suspended they are asking me to bring in my daughters mother for the case that's terminated. Smh America is a bull sh*t country.
thats why I took the red pill
Married or not DNA testing should be mandatory periodt.
Thank you for your outstanding work
Since when did women care about men on this issue? Change the laws if you really care about men
OGbobbyjohnson85 Only when their beta bucks is about to walk out the door.
This is a bigger problem than you think. Thanks for bringing this to everyones attention.
8:43 yes .. the fraudulent mothers .. leeching on the income and feelings of her victims
These women weren't taught to respect men clearly.
You can legislate morality. Crimes are crimes. If you commit a heinous act against someone else you should be punished accordingly to the degree in which that crime has affected the victim. Morality however should no be up to discussion, and that's the real issue. That's why we used to have taboos.
Paternity fraud is why I'm staying single. Not going to chance it.
The Women have to get on board and get in the Feds ear!!
adaboy4z yeah, cause men don't get justice. We can die in the street or rot in their prison... whamen are the only ones who have protection from the state , and society. And even when they commit fraud, or go to criminal court are rarely held accountable. Definitely not to the standard men are!
It absolutely affects one part of society directly! It is 100% women defrauding men.
Yep. My ex took me for over $75k during 8 years not counting lawyers, court costs, guardian ad litem fees, etc. If she hadn't moved to Iowa, I'd still be paying. I can prove she knowingly committed fraud. No lawyer will touch it. And yes, I was active duty at the time.
Edit: sorry but I had to lol at the dude's comment about the young lady finding out who her real father is. My ex tested 5 guys after she lost the meal ticket of my income.
None were her boy's father.
Paladinbr wtf how many guys was she sleeping with at the time? If there’s a question mark over who the father is the woman will probably just pick the highest earner. Mandatory dna tests need to be done before a man pays a single cent for a child that may or not be his. If there’s no dna proof then the woman gets nothing! Why is that so difficult to do?
@@jollytotjuice yes, she chose the highest earner, who also had the stability of military benefits. That was me. Of the 5 she tested, three were in the keeping of the state at the time.
Of course, I didn't know about any of them; she got busy right after I left to meet my ship, which was already on station.
But to answer your question, she must have slept with at least 6 males besides me in a one week window. She didn't waste time.
Edit: I agree with mandatory DNA testing at childbirth to overturn paternity based on marriage. And yes, we were married.
Wild as ovulation is less than a 1 week window!
@@PrimateSoul that was pretty much the point. At least 6 guys in a week.
Don't believe any women...EVER. Get it tested or its FRAUD & prosecutable.
I'd be interested in seeing the numbers on this. How huge of a problem is this? Men's issues are almost never given the attention they need.
Scary stuff. That's part of why I stopped dating back in 2009.
It's not all bad though. Without the drag factor of supporting a woman, her kids (and her divorce lawyer) I did alright. I retired 7 months ago at age 54.
You know there's a VERY easy way to sneak this by. Have all healthcare require a DNA test for identity purposes. That way you can get the sample for a song and it can also be used as ID in case of a terrible accident.
I think the most concerning thing is that across the board is is being made explicitly clear that our courts do not intend to hold women accountable for paternity fraud. The message has been received and it is now open season for those with the malice to do it. This should be a criminal charge, and it should supersede any ridiculous family court opinions.
Need a law where DNA tests are performed on every birth.
The proposed Federal law should look something like this:
No father's name shall be placed on Live Birth Certificates WITHOUT DNA testing to prove Paternity.
No Voluntary AOP (Acknowledgement of Paternity) Forms shall be allowed by any State.
Mothers who are:
1. Married DO NOT have the right to refuse DNA testing.
2. Unmarried but name a father either in a Child Support case or by applying for any SNAP/WIC/ Welfare/Medicaid or any State benefits shall not have the right to refuse a DNA test to prove paternity PRIOR to receiving any benefits from State, Local, or Federal resources or from the putative father.
a. In 1 and 2 above Mothers who REFUSE to submit said child to DNA testing FOREVER lose the right to submit any case before any court for child support of said child or apply for any Federal/State programs mention above in 1 for said child UNTIL such time as the BIOLOGICAL Father has been identified by DNA Test at the Mothers cost solely.
3. If married but the spouse is proven by DNA testing to NOT be the biological father he SHALL NOT ever be subject to providing any support for the child unless he voluntarily LEGALLY adopts said child. This shall also serve in ALL States as a Fault Based reason for Divorce where NO Alimony/Maintenance shall be awarded.
4. For children born prior to the effective date of this Act:
In divorce cases:
1. DNA testing SHALL BE performed on every child without fail to establish paternity for the subject of child support.
2. In the cases that children that were born and the Husband is NOT the Biological Father unless Legally Adopted there shall be NO CHILD SUPPORT for those children awarded at any time. Additionally children who are NOT the biological child of said Husband that has his LEGAL Last Name shall have their last name LEGALLY changed to their mothers MAIDEN name by the COURT automatically and SHALL lose any rights of inheritance from the Husband.
Additionally in cases where the wife broke the sanctity of the Marriage and passed off her Illicit offspring as her Husbands biological children there will be NO Alimony/Maintenance awarded under ANY circumstances.
Regardless of who filed for divorce and why, these cases SHALL AUTOMATCALLY be changed into FAULT BASED Divorce where all debts are split 50%/50% and any fully owned property or accounts shall be split 75%/25% in favor of the Husband and any pensions/retirements held by the Husband SHALL NOT be subject to division and SHALL be considered his SOLE and SEPARATE property.
In case of Paternity being established without DNA testing PRIOR to this Act by any court OR Voluntary AOP:
1. Men who are currently paying Child Support shall have the right to:
A. Have a DNA test done to prove Paternity:
If Paternity is disproved by DNA Test Family courts SHALL:
Immediately stop Child Support payments, Garnishments, and back Child Support shall be dismissed in its entirety.
B. If Child Support payer has been: Jailed, Charged with Felonies or any other Legalities connected to the Child Support case:
These shall be PERMANENTLY wiped clean from their record in ALL FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, and LOCAL data bases.
C. All monies that have been taken from Child Support Payer SHALL BE:
Returned within 30 days by the State agency enforcing and collecting Child Support orders within each State along with Statutory interest of 5% per Annum. These monies shall not be subject to any tax of any kind by Federal, State, Local, or Municipality Taxes.
D. In the cases of where child support payments have been made but the payments have been stopped due to the child reaching Majority age if requested by the putative father a DNA test Shall BE administered by the court and if paternity is disproven regardless of how long ago the Child Support ended all of Part C. above shall apply. Adult Children in these cases SHALL NOT have the right to refuse testing.
E. In C and D State Child Support agencies shall have the ability to recover such monies from the mother unless she can prove by DNA test who the Biological father is. In such cases the Mother shall STILL be Responsible for 50% of Monies to be recovered by the State.
F. Additionally in cases where divorce has happened and a QDRO order is in place the Court SHALL AUTOMATICALLY vacate that judgement and this information will be sent to the retirement plan, the Social Security Administration and all claims by the Ex wife to his Social Security Benefits shall be revoked along with any Survivor Benefits by said children. IF Spousal Support/Maintenance is being paid it also shall be AUTOMATICALLY voided by the COURT.
States that refuse to follow this ACT:
Face immediate termination of ALL Title IV Act monies until they come into compliance with this ACT.
This act overrides the Bradley Amendment Act and Title IV Act parts that are in conflict with this ACT.
Family Court Judges who refuse to follow this ACT regardless of whether the State is in compliance with this ACT or not SHALL BE:
Subject to Arrest by Federal Officers and trial by the Federal Govt. If found guilty of subverting this ACT Shall be subject to:
Not less than 10 years in a Maximum Security Federal Prison in General Population only AND $100,000.00 fine
What is this women against paternity fraud stuff. Women will not ever as voters do a damn thing to change this.
This comment outlines the problem EXACTLY! But the instant you float the idea that women voted for all of this and that's the root of the problem, the so called anti-feminist women turn against you.
@@Aeroshogun giving women the vote was a shit test.
@@epicpieho Precisely, and the cucked men fell for it. With every s@#% test men fail, the worst the next test becomes.
Man getting married is scarry now
"believe all women can lie". ::: :
I don't think most women really understand what it's like to be a man and for a woman to do this to you. It's worse then a man raping a woman as, traumatic though it is, it's over quickly (although there may be lingering physiological damage, of course). Imagine not only being raped (violated on a deep emotional level) but having to pay your rapist for the next two decades for a child that isn't yours - that isn't even furthering your genetic survival. All of that time, effort, work, etc that you are forced to give to someone who did something both traumatizing to you and outright evil and, even worse, greatly deminshing your chances of ever having children of your own (most quality women aren't going to want to get involved with a man who has things like child support payments hanging over him). On top of that, society and the people in government not only support your rapist, but think of you as a deadbeat, lazy, irresponsible person for not wanting anything to do with your rapist or that child.
It might not be a perfect analogy but this is probably the closest description I can think of for what it's like to be a man and find out the woman you trusted and have invested huge amounts of time, money, effort, etc. into by providing her with a home and the things she wants has betrayed you in the worse way one person can betray another.
mgtow all the way !!!
Yep I hear that brotha
I'm DNA testing my kids shortly after they're born. To avoid raising another man's kid.
@Ghost in the Shell got bad news for you, even in the US over the counter DNA kits are not admissible in court of law.
None of these women would have said anything if it had not effected them and their men. They are just mad that they don't have access to all thier husbands money.
My husband was named legally by a paternity fraudster early in our relationship. We are in New Zealand, not USA.
We demanded DNA test which was delayed for a few months after the child's birth.
The mother posted public pictures naming my husband (then boyfriend),and he copped a lot of criticism and hate for 'abandoning ' his responsibility etc to her and the child.
We knew there was other possible fathers, and knew she had lied about due dates to pin it on my husband only.
DNA proved him not the father..
But in the meantime she had sworn in family court that he was the only possibility etc,and sucked in his parents who gave her items to help her live alone as single parent.
As far as we know..the other candidates were never notified to at least do DNA tests.
A couple of years later we were informed by her ex husband and another ex boyfriend, both whom lived with her and the child for a few months after the fact, one told us she said the DNA was faulty, that my husband was definitely the father .and the other guy told us that she said she didn't know whi the father was, that it was 1night stand,which was rubbish. The 3 men who had been sleeping with her during time of conception were frequent visitors of hers.my husband included.
This was 13yrs ago. It's just awful that the real biological family has missed out due to the lies and delusion.
We paid 3thousand for DNA and lawyers.
Worst part is she went on to have another 2 children and apparently lied about due dates with them as well and potentially multiple fathers in the mix,with 1 believing its him.
DNA should be done for every live birth regardless.
Obviously there's multiple reasons why mothers lie about paternity ,incest and rape being a fair reason in my opinion. But sealed birth records should include DNA and available to government departments should child support or medical needs ever come into the equation.
False claims like ours should be at least partially reimbursed by the mother for not naming all potential fathers. Its fair that my then boyfriend had to pay something because he had indeed used her for sex, as did the other men for some time.
I don't believe jail is helpful unless she's proven to be unfit dangerous mother also.
Criminalize Infidelity. For the men doing it too. Lock em up.
@Chris Young Yeah I know.
EVERY WOMEN THAT MAKE PATERNITY FRAUD MUST BE MANDATORY PUNISHED BY 10 YEARS IN JAIL AND HER CHILD MUST BE PROTECTED FROM HER COZ SHE IS DISGUSTING ABUSER!!!
life in prison would be more just
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why even waste resources and effort in imprisoning them? why not just give them a post-birth abortion which they seem to be in favor of
2:36 HAHAHA are you serious?
If I found out my father was not my biological father because my mother had been unfaithful, I would have cut contact with my mother for life.. The last words she would have heard from my lips would have been that I wouldn't even attend her funeral when that time came.. Such an act is unforgivable in my eyes.
Fortunately I am not worried about this, because I am physically very similar to my father, grandfather, uncle and that entire side of the family.
I was caught in the middle of the very situation you spectacular about. Its horrible man.
Knew a man that had a vasectomy after his first marriage. He didn't tell any of his future partners.
He had 5 partners over the next 20+ years tell him "Congratulations honey. I'm pregnant."
Each time he laughed in their face, told them about the vasectomy, told them to pack their bags and GTFO.
Moral of the story: Never trust a woman.
Women: Deliberately ignore male victims of many issues luike rape and domestic violence, because if they get more support from people if people believe it to be a women's issue.
Men: Need to show that tons of other people are effected because if it was only a men's issue, nobody would would waste a thought on it.
I love how many get to pay for childeren that aren't biologically theirs but not allowed a say in abortion! Don't you guys just love the equality that feminism has brought us!?!?
The gov will never put a stop to this. I mean...
How will the social workers get a paycheck?!?!?!?
The money's got to come from somewhere.
Make Paternity Fraud a Criminal Felony with a minimum mandatory sentence of 20 years.
And I agree with the other comments that it is really pathetic that a man’s voice on this topic is always ignored and it only gets attention if the argument is fronted by women and based on the harm it does women and their children.
A man’s voice DOES matter, and the harm to the man is enough, by itself, to fight against paternity fraud.
Today’s rules are killing the possibility of there ever again being good relationships between men and women.
MGTOW is the answer for men. Even young women who espouse good ideas like this will flip and pull this very trick later if it is to their advantage.
Paternity fraud victims should be able to sue for the money paid on other people's kids.
300K of paternity fraud, it's nice to know I'm not alone
"The total, for just the attorney, is $40k." And that right there is the problem.