How the Chicago Bulls self-destructed after Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson left | Collapse
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2019
- When the game's best player and best coach leave you in the same offseason, the only way to go is down. Fast.
In 1998, the Chicago Bulls won yet another championship: an incredible SECOND three-peat for the team built by Jerry Krause, coached by Phil Jackson, and led by Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. But for all their glory, the team was in disarray. When the deeply disgruntled Jackson left town, Jordan followed him, and Krause was left to pick up the pieces.
... and by "pick up the pieces," we mean swiftly hurl all the pieces into the abyss and start rebuilding from scratch. But rebuilding, it turns out, isn't always easy.
This is the story of how the Bulls followed one of the NBA's most impressive peaks with a valley just as impressive in its steepness and depth. This is the rapid collapse of one of history's greatest teams.
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
Shot by Alex Hawley
Edited by Ryan Simmons
Motion graphics by Michael Das
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So this is basically The Last Dance episode 11.
exactly what I was thinking. and it came out a year before TLD
Definitely
The true final episode. The episode we deserved an explanation from Jordan and the team themselves.
More or less. Without any MJ / SP / DR interviews.
More like episode -1...a prequel or spinoff of sorts...
bro really got rid of the greatest player ever, greatest coach ever, greatest rebounder ever, greatest perimeter defender ever, and one of the greatest shooters ever because of his ego
Pure madness
@Kings Will Soon Rise They were, but I'm sure we can all agree, they could've won one more.
He also put it all together like no other GM could. He gets too much flack.
@Mike Wicklund “You either die a hero…” fits perfectly.
If nothing else, Krause's actions helped build dynasties in San Antonio and Los Angeles.
Jerry Krause: Players and Coaches dont win Championships, organizations win championships
Bulls with MJ & Phil: 6 Rings
Bulls without MJ & Phil: 0 Rings
unown unown jerry was great at scouting and drafting but should of shut up and payed pippin and kept Jordan
@@dantehaskell5688 i mean i dont blame jerry for what happened directly after the 97-98 season but for a guy that talks that big hes done a terrible job at rebuilding with the exception of the couple years with drose in which its obviously not his fault that drose got injured. after that its still been years and the bulls have gotten progressively worse every season.
@@unownunown1530 ill give him that he did build that team but to piss every single one of them off was a bad thing and then underpay not one but both stars and faces of your franchise ya he deserved it
You don’t know that
How many ri gs has my won as an executive
Michael Jordan isn’t a once in a generation talent. He’s a once in 10 generations talent. You don’t rebuild by pissing off that kind of player and making him leave
@a 1999 had a lockout meaning less games. That would have helped the Bulls playing less games. They would have a had a good chance in my opinion.
@a probably not but the Bulls didn't have to collapse as hard as they did. Jordan could have been a star over the next few years and they could have made better trades and draft picks
@@dustman820 Yeah, with only 50 games that would have helped them at their age. A weak Knicks team ended up going to the Finals so I definitely think the Bulls could have won in 1999 if everyone stayed.
@@logicaldude3611 they probably weren’t gonna beat those Spurs without Phil
@@logicaldude3611 cause bottom line the players might stay but there’s no universe where Phil does
Steve Kerr is still enjoying greatness. What a life this guy's been living.
he did win 4 rings in a row and while I think that bulls team was pretty trash outside of mj by 98 they were still good enough to win around him and thats all that matters....phil was a great coach and pippen was a good 2nd star who could do all the little things without having to worry about scoring
And now hes winning rings as a head coach
I mean hes probly a good coach but none of these gsw rings was hard fought. The first they won by default. The other 2 they owe to kd.
Pelvis Wrestley exept he destroyed KD's career by pressuring him into playing.
@@vie3147 fake news kd just came out and said it was his decision
As a Bulls fan, this is therapy.
All we could do is pray that we get Ja
FACTS
I was waiting for them to mention Kirk but I guess not
ELTON BRAND AND RON ARTEST: Let em go for nothing
2004 DRAFT: Pick#3 Ben Gordon over Luol Deng, Shaun Livingston, Andre Iguodala, Al Jefferson, J.R. Smith, Josh Smith, Dorell Wright, Jameer Nelson, Tony Allen and Kevin Martin.
Then their second round pick, Jackson Vroman, was picked ahead of Trevor Ariza. I doubt anyone even knows who Vroman is. I sure don't, but I'm a Lakers fan, so maybe Bulls guys will remember him. I do remember Gordon. Lol
I swear you’re absolutely right
who’s here after the bulls doc ending to see how jerry messed it up
Lmao man that's crazy
Yessir
Everybody!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Great QUESTION!!!!
Had to
The ending was perfect. Bulls ends with MJ and that should be it.
The thing about Jerry Krause is that he did two truly historic things in his career, and he deserves full credit for both of them, and you can never mention one without the other. The first thing he did was put together the greatest basketball team (and perfectly complimentary coaching staff) of all time. The second thing he did was destroy the greatest basketball team of all time. No Jerry = no 6 rings, but also no Jerry after '98 = no collapse. It's a complicated legacy, as great ones often are
I agree, it also could be argued that the better organizations now, are run because of the success Krause had, and avoiding the mistakes. I think the Warriors, Meyers, and Kerr are a result of the success he had, hell even the Bucks have top tier management.
The great thing about Jerry Krause was he never bowed down to Michael Jordan the same way Rob Palinka bows down to LeBron. If Krause would’ve let Jordan run the team he would’ve never traded away Oakley for Cartwright, he would’ve never gotten rid of Doug Collins and hire Phil Jackson, he would’ve never drafted Kukoc and would’ve gotten Sam Perkins instead. If he would’ve let Jordan run the team he probably would’ve gotten just 1 or 2 championships and a whole bunch of MVP awards. But he wouldn’t have gotten 6 championships
@@dariog36th yeah but at the same time he didn’t need to burn the bridge with Phil Jackson. Even if he convinced the bulls to come back for one more year. At the least Scottie could’ve been the veteran leader to transition out of the Jordan Era
@@dariog36th looking at the decisions MJ did as the owner of the Bobcats/Hornets, you're damn right!
@@dariog36th but oakley was a MUCH MUCH better player than cartwright like its not even close. Also Perkins was just as good as kukoc lmao
I was at that game the Bulls scored a record setting low 49 points. And check this out- that was the ONLY Bulls game I ever went to. A scalper before the game tried to sell the seat to me for $200. I was like, "Come on, man. Jordan isn't even on the Bulls anymore. I'll give you $50." He accepted. Little did I know the game would turn out to be worth fifty cents.
I wouldn’t have even gone to a bulls game that didn’t have Jordan Pippen or even Rodman
Steve Kerr were like "Oh yeah thanks for trading me to Spurs. This team is dead anyway." and went to win a champ with Spurs 😂
Jerry Krause wants a rebuild over a championship, and now Chicago is still rebuilding 22 years later 😂
And Krause is taking a dirt nap.
They only won bcuz Pippen was severely underpaid. There’s no way you can actually ever do that again.
Dude, why do ESPN still even exist? Lol, TH-camrs are doing an even better job than them.
Clive's English Corner facts
I mean someone has to bring politics into sports🤷♂️🤷♂️
More like ,sports stations have politics too thats why they cant flame anyone just by factd
Because a lot of people watch espn a lot more than some TH-cam person
@@paulwhiteii6321 damnit Disney and their constant agenda pushing
As a Chicago born and raised native , this is going to hurt me to watch ..
But I have to watch it ..
Same it hurts me but I like these videos
Yeah man. I have no clue what it must be like to root for a extraordinarily suckful franchise. Can you shed some light on that for me?
@@SerlingPictures 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm done
Cedric Torry II as a bulls fan born and raised in Vegas I feel your pain
itll feel so much better once your team starts winning. those years of bargnani made the playoffs much more important to me as a raptors fan 😂
The only man who could stop Jordan from winning more rings, Jerry Krause.
Alan Kent Larry Bird did. Nique did, Sidney Moncrief
@@jayvionwilliams4061 Well Nique never beat MJ in a playoff series Bulls swept Hawks in '93 3-0 MJ avg. 39.8ppg 7.4rpg 6.7apg 2.7spg on 54% Bird beat him wit 5 HOF player's when MJ second best player was Dave Corzine. And Sydney Moncrife beat him as rookie in '85 3-1 but Sydney's Bucks swept Bird an those 5 HOF player's the year before. So I guess that makes Sydney Moncrife better than Bird...
The Bad Boy Pistons beat them three years running.
@@jayvionwilliams4061 I see you've googled well but not well enough.
@@jayvionwilliams4061 respond idiot. Fcking post millenials
Krause thought he could just build another Bulls dynasty like he did starting in 1984, he was cocky enough to think, hey I could find another MJ and Phil around the corner and get them for pennies. It was disgusting what he did to the team and the city of Chicago.
I agree. The Bulls and Bears organizations were the same bullshit. Cheap, ungrateful, petty, conservative, and stupid.
Ummm bulls dynasty was not build in 1984...jordan was just draft in 1984..period
Ohhh i was replying to a woman...nevermind you dont understand
eduar ed was bout to like your comment before i realized parts of your brain is missing for thinking women can’t comprehend basketball🥴✌🏾
and to Pippins
Krause actions reminds me of a quote:
"Temper gets you into trouble. Pride keeps your there"
I used to blame Krause for the demise because it was so no-brainer to give MJ what he wanted...but in retrospect, owner Reinsdorf is really the one who blew it here...for whatever reason, he let MJ walk even though he and MJ had a great relationship...baffling
I always heard that Jordan wanted some stake in the team but Reinsdorf didn't want him to have any
@@js-xl8et That`s greedy. Give MJ 1% just for appreciation
Now Jordan is richer than Reinsdorf despite being shorthanded for many years playing with the Bulls.
@@Charlieneumann04 Dosen`t Jerry still own the Bulls and Whit Soxx? If the clippers sold for 4 billion , The Bulls could get probably 8 by now....
Steven B Carter he wasn’t interested in winning and David Stern was really in control of the Bulls during Jordan time there because he was cheating for Jordan and marketing the league under him
He should have said how in the 99 season, the starting lineups didn't announce them as "Your WORLD CHAMPION, Chicago Bulls! but just "Your Chicago Bulls!"
Steve Kerr has 8 championships ( 5 as a player ( 2 when he played for San Antonio, 3 when he played for Chicago & 3 as coach of Golden State)
Phil Jackson had 11 as a coach, tying himself with Bill Russell for most championship rings.
@@Sai4651 Phil Jackson has 13 rings. 11 as a coach and 2 as a player on the Knicks.
@@samilles472 I cant imagine Phil jackson on a court tbh
@a He came back to the Lakers and won in 2009 and 2010. After 3 peating from 2000-2002. Add the 6 from the Bulls and 2 from the Knicks and you get 13.
And Hall of Famer at that too
this video is so good, they made a 10 episode prequel on netflix.
The short version: Krause was pissy & wanted the credit that MJ & Phil were receiving
Bingo. Ego & fight for power always destroy organizations
@@shorty1103 as a Spurs fan, I couldnt agree more.😄
MJ nor Phil weren't appreciated by the management or ownership
I've always thought his mistake was the same one a lot of other guys made--Krause let MJ get in his head. MJ dissed him every chance he got, even when he was still playing. Krause was so determined to build a winner after Jordan left that he made hasty, ill-advised decisions. What happened with Fizer and Williams was bad luck, but just about everyone else he picked did well. He just wasn't patient.
Krause got Executive of the Year twice. His peers gave him his share of the credit. I don't know what he thought he had to prove, anyway.
It's also on Reinsdorf, he's sticking with the wrong people which also includes GarPax today. He should've defended Jackson because the Bulls were making him alot of money than the White Sox despite them playing decent finishing second but never any playoff appearances from '95-'99. If you're the owner of a multiple championship team what would/should you do to protect you're investments? It's not so much we need a new front office, I think we need a new owner! And I think Reinsdorf doesnt even give two shits about the Bulls and even mentioned he favored the 2005 White Sox over the Dynasty Bulls. Plus the Sox are not doing any better either, no playoffs since 2008, a rebuild that doesnt even compare with the Cubs, and an empty stadium that only fills for the crosstown classic. And he's probably desperate trying to make money such as hosting the all-star game. In the 25-26 years the UC has opened, he never wanted to host it but all of a sudden, he's allowing one?
How the Cleveland Cavaliers collapsed twice after Lebron left
Romax 24245 Big Facts
That story's still being written
Both of those situations were a house of cards waiting to come down
You had a team(s) completely built around one player, when that player leaves what do expect to happen.
Aren't they in the playoffs right now though?
I really appreciate Seth calling them the "mighty" Utah Jazz. Those Jazz teams were so good and it adds to the greatness of Jordan that he was able to beat such an excellent team, not once, but Twice!
They didn't "self-destruct." Krause destroyed them.
I guess you can say Krause self destructed
Krause just couldn't accept that players and coaches get the majority of the glory when a championship is won. He deserves credit for putting pieces in place but he is the primary reason the bulls were largely irrelevant for years after Jordan, Pippen and Jackson were gone.
@@rickr.3558 heard he had little man issues and insecure I wonder if he was a hater! why would you dis mantel a team like that!!
98 bulls were on fumes... they werent going to win 4 straight
Talkin' bout sabotage
Very simple the Bulls ownership weakness showed. they aren't ruthless and they aren't demanding for success.
MJ drove the franchise to be a winning one
PREACH!!!!!!!
After Bugs Bunny, the bulls weren't the same.
Cant beat internet humour.
Have a good day, keep it up lol
Lmaoo 😂😂
I mean ever since Jordan forgot how to stretch his arm like that he was never the same player
Obligatory, “That’s all folks!”
after space jam they had a 3 peat and a 72-10 record
It's amazing how Phil Jackson and MJ held EVERYTHING together and once those two were gone, the Bulls fell apart and we all knew that it was coming.
Who’s here after the first two episodes of ‘The Last Dance’?
Daniel Cardona me great documentary
Kishan Patel look forward to next week
Daniel Cardona it is going keep getting better
Kishan Patel yeah buddy
where can i watch it? is it here in youtube?
The Bulls 97-98 season was dubbed the "last dance" even well before the end of the regular season that year.
Cause of managements' ego.
you can replace harper kerr kukoc Longley rodman pippen...what you couldn't replace was phil and mj...@@maryakopyan3224
@@razkable You can't really replace pippen though
Asmosis Jones can’t replace pippen
@@lilin3005
Yeah you could replace him 10 times before you could replace MJ
Bulls haven't been relavent since D. Rose went down with injuries
As a bulls fan, I couldn't agree more
I’m still amazed that they had butler, wade, rondo, and some very good role players, and were still awful
Luke Essinger rondo has two good games. Wade was missing that playoff series and was a just as a diva as jimmy butler.
yea. the bulls were one lebron signing away from another dynasty
Mr.E what about when they went up 2-0 on the one seeded Celtics?
Anyone else come here immediately after finishing the Last Dance?
Who didn't?
Yep
Yow
Yep
Im laughing my ass right now.
As shitty as the collapse was, it's poetic that the dynasty wasn't ended by another team on court, they destroyed themselves off the court. Sad but a fitting end to the greatest NBA team is history
It's also mesmerizing how quickly the image of he team was separated from the image of the players. Without Pippen, MJ and Rodman, people quickly went "these are not the Bulls". And these have been the Bulls for 20 years.
They lost lost Jordan Pippen and Rodman in one week!!!!
longhorns13192 Rodman was let go due to the fact Jordan and Phil were the reason he came to the team. Krause didn’t like him. So with Jordan and Phil gone Krause had no reason for him to be there. Pippin wanted more money, which he deserved, but Krause didn’t want Pippen around. Jordan hated Krause
Pippen
Yes, Pippin went to middle Earth.
Good thing Pippin kept Merry and Sam. Lost Frodo tho.
@@DevinEMILE also, Rodman was physically broken and would barely play in his final 2 NBA seasons.
That Jordan game winner at Utah was the perfect way to end a dynasty
bulls since that shot have made 1 east finals won 5 playoff series total...its pretty sad ….they were on top of the world with mj from 87- 93 95-98.... but before and after nothing
@@razkable and that's why I actually argue that the Chicago Bulls are one of, if not the most overrated franchises in the NBA. Without MJ and the others that team is garbage.
@@usteeler81 it's interesting to point out that the Bulls had no true success other than Michael Jordan's age.
usteeler81 yeah i suppose you're right!!! without Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc and basically everyone who made that team great, the team is garbage!! great observation!!!!!!!!!
@@alex-ur3vp fact bro even when d.rose is healthy the team is not that good
A story you guys should look into... Anthony Carter's agent forgetting to submit his clients papers to exercise his player option after the 2002-03 season. That single action had a domino effect that changed the history of the Lakers, Clippers, the Heat, and the NBA as a whole. The effect of that one mistake let the Heat sign Elton Brand (clippers matched) which led to Lamar Odom, which lead to Shaq, which lead to a Heat title, which lead to a Heat rebuild that spawned the Labron / Bosh / Wade era. Fascinating story if you do a deep dive on it. One mistake by a dumb agent lead to 3 NBA titles and a 4 year dynasty.
@OneLuckyWriter Ironically Carter is now a Heat assistant coach
Having grew up and watched almost every bulls game from 1990-1999 this video almost brought me to tears. I lived out in the loop of Chicago and the Bulls were a way of life. After 1998, there wasn't even a chance to celebrate the second three-peat.. the walls came crashing down in a literal planned demolition. All within a week or so. This brought back some buried wounds that never fully healed.
It felt rushed
Dig into the beef of Krause and Jackson for Beef History!
Yeah, that would be a much better one than the ordinary beefs.
It's crazy that at the same time that the Bulls dynasty ended, in the NFL, the 49ers dynasty came to an end due to the team being over the salary cap and being forced to release key players and Steve Young's injury while Elway led the Broncos to 2 superbowl titles before retiring.
Mostly because of Eddie j debartolo sold the team and by the third championship bill Walsh was already gone
This was fantastic
Mr Handles likes basketball? damn respect pav
Hello pavel.
The Bulls are still collapsing, 20+ years after Jordan left!!!
MP 81,16,18 CATS this is equal to how society has changed. Individualism.
@@GinoNL Y'all are spouting InDiVidUalISm like it's a bad thing
Not the 2011 bulls
@@scgamer and it's cost D.Rose knees, the Jerry Krause's curse is that badly
@@scgamerstill 0 rings. Fck, not even a finals appearance.
The Bulls owed the basketball gods a huge debt they're still paying for with interest
@@chillvibes375 6 rings from 2 three-peats is better than "I'm the greatest player of all time" after winning one ring.
LMAO
Blaze up no. They destroyed a 3 peat championship and forced goat retired. That’s the debts
Yo...don't mess with the black JESUS.
@@simple45679 literally has nothing to with the conversation
This is my new favorite series, well except anything with Jon Bois
I like Rewinder as well
1. Anything Jon Bois
2. Anything Seth about Basketball
3. Everything else
Jon Bois is just two raccoons in a trench coat.
@@dasfowler *ALLEGEDLY*
@@Shakshuka69 OPEN YOUR EYES.
5:51 “And the rest of the bulls roster? Pfffffffft-“Commercial. What a good place for an ad lol
I am the world's biggest Michael Jordan fan, I will just get that out there. I grew up in Chicago, and in the Western Suburbs of Chicago. He was my hero as a younger kid, and I never stopped watching him all through high school and into college.
What has always bugged me about how most people talk about Michael's Career is how the seem to just glance over how INSANE it is for an athlete to LEAVE HIS SPORT for a full 18 months, play and train for a completely different sport during that time, come back and within 16 months begin a 2nd Three-Peat!!!!
And he did this when he was in his Mid- to-Late 30s and at a time while the NBA was getting younger and so much Talent was coming in!
What he did is nothing short of Legendary!!!
What are you talking about? The 1999 Bulls are one of the greatest basketball teams of all time. They were so good that they managed to score less than 50 points in the shot clock era. It takes a lot of talent.
Anthony Kernich Wilt averaged 50 points a game in ‘62 season
with no 3 point line
not gonna lie you had us in the first half
@@geraldespinosa7888 Us???
@@jp3813 why not? lmao im sure im not the only one
The Bulls as an organization only became relevant because they lucked out drafting the greatest player in the history of the NBA. They where a VERY bad organization before MJ and have been after his retirement. Jerry Krause took too much credit for that dynasty.
after mj there were good times with D.Rose but after that they became as irrelevant as post mj era
ICUP Nibba I get what you’re saying but you didn’t get a prime Wade and saying you almost got someone doesn’t mean much, that’s what the knicks have been saying and it hasn’t helped the team
Krause made a lot of great draft picks and signings DURING the MJ Bulls era though. Drafting Polynice and trading him in one of the biggest steals ever for Pippen, brilliantly drafting Grant at #10, Armstrong at #18 and Kukoc at freakin' #29 (during the 90's the Bulls would never go below #20 in the draft order until 1999). Signing bargain bin effective role players in Paxson, Longley, Kerr, Buechler, and Brown. And signing Harper and Rodman to create one of the best defensive and rebounding squads of all time. Krause was a genius GM until 1999 happened when he decided to kill the dynasty and destroy his legacy.
Actually, the Bulls were pretty competitive before they had Jordan. They made the playoffs during their first year in the league, and stay competitive pretty much until Reggie Theus's final two years there. They almost made the Finals in 1975, and they were known for their aggressive style of ball. They had Jerry Sloan, Bob Love, Van Lier, etc in their first ten year period. They were thinking about drafting Magic Johnson in 1979. The only reason Jordan was drafted by the Bulls because Reggie Theus went to the Kings. If Magic got drafted and helped Theus, Jordan would've gotten drafted by a team like the Mavs. He would've went to the Bulls later on after things fell off in Dallas.
@@drlight6677 Krause had just as many draft blunders during that era as well. He drafted Keith Lee at 11 in 1985...over Karl Malone, Joe Dumars, and Terry Porter. He drafted Brad Sellers at 9 in 1986 over guys like Salley, Rodman, Mark Price and Dell Curry. In 1988 he took Will Perdue at 11 over Majerle, Harvey Grant, and Rod Strickland. In 1989 he had 3 first rounders including #6. He took Stacey King, BJ, and Jeff Sanders. He passed on Tim Hardaway, Shawn Kemp, Mookie Blaylock, Nick Anderson, Vlade Divac, and Cliff Robinson. He could have had an all-star with all 3 picks and built a championship caliber team without Jordan using that draft alone.
I love how you raise the graph when Krause resigns. It totally represents the overall situation of this video.
This proves that an organization alone cannot do well without coach and players.
p.s.: This should be the spinoff of The Last Dance's episode :)
People today don't truly realize how great Scottie Pippen was and how crazy it was to have Jordan and Pippen in the same team. Basically imagine if 4 years after LeBron was drafted, Cleveland traded for Kevin Durant in the 2007 draft. Imagine LeBron and KD dominating the league for years.
Not in Jordan's era.. maybe in this weak ass era...
Do you mean ... like LeBron and Kyrie?
U comparing pippin to KD? Lol
this guy thinks Pippen is as good as KD
Then imagine KD signing a 10 year for $80million deal total lol and the GM refusing to pay him more lol .. imagine the depth you could around them. “Bulls of the 90s”
"How Manchester United fell apart after the departure of Alex Ferguson."
AOK and now Real Madrid after Ronaldo leaving. 🤦🏽♂️
@@aris_mendez they're not as bad as United after Fergie's era man, I mean yeah Real had some turbulence after Cristiano & Zidane left, but still they're recovering better than United
gilang rizqy yeah I agree on the recovery part. They’ve made some decent signings.
@@gilangrizqy7778 Too recent to judge Real Madrid imo, plus they haven't finished in a bad position domestically tbh (3rd might be bad for Madrid's standards, but 7th and 6th for United is pretty abysmal)
well yes, but actually no, after bruno fernandes came to MU, i hope him, rashford, and martial could win that pl trophy
The bulls biggest opponent wasn’t any nba team, it was Jerry Krause
Rudy’s Reviews but with out Jerry those teams would be like the wizards teams
They ended up worse with him lol
Dumb. Jerry Krause created the team in the first place.
@@josecarranza7555 he also developed a sore spot in his soul over the fact that he got little to no credit. Dude was a genius when it came to assembling a team, but he couldn't get out of his own way to keep them together. If he could have checked his ego, they could have gone on longer. He deserves all the credit for putting it together, but he also deserves a lot of blame for tearing them apart
@@josecarranza7555 and destructed it too
It became very clear, very fast that Jordan, Pippen, and Jackson were what kept the Bulls afloat for the decade. Everything revolved around them. Without those three guys, the Bulls front office had absolutely no clue what to do.
Can you do a video on the 2011 mavs championship run?
No please I cant take it...
Great idea, especially with Dirk retiring. Plenty of material there.
A Rewinder segment would best fit for that
Smh they should do a collapse cuz they couldn't even resign tyson chandler
Mark Cuban let everyone walk in Free Agency and drafted Shane Larkin over the Greek Freak.... the end.
The D Rose era was projected to be a Dynasty in the mid 10s. I just hope the other Universe Me got to enjoy it
I’ll agree with you on the D Rose era. We almost had a 20 year anniversary of the first Championship and made the Conference Finals. Imagine if we beat the Heat in 2010-2011. Everyone said what a great way to honor the dream team by starting another dynasty. Somewhere in another universe the Bulls would be celebrating the berth of a new dynasty by beating the Dallas Mavericks.
"Jordans gone? QUICK GET RID OF ALL THE OTHER GOOD PLAYERS!"
crimsonking440 pippin was gone regardless he was underpaid and annoyed with jerry
@El Patrón my auto correct that's why XD also some country have it spelled with an i not an e
"The bulls sunk deep and as fast as any champion ever has."
2019 GSW: "Here, hold my beer"
What do you expect? Without Klay and Steph....
difference is they didn’t lose their best players forever
@@magneto44 I have assumed more like the 1996-97 Spurs when went a flattering 20-62 in a very weak division after losing David Robinson, and then won the draft lottery to Tim Duncan.
It will be interesting to see how the Warriors do in the 2021-2022 season
Jabu....fast forward to 2021. Warriors have the best record in the NBA. Again. And look like a favorite for the title.
Given that Mother's Day is next month, can we get a rewinder about Stephen Piscotty hitting a homer after his mom passed?
Or Dallas Braden's perfect game with his mom in attendance?
No
Nobody cares about baseball its not the 70s anymore
Rock Avenger actually a lot of people do.
Tropicalfire yes a lot of people actually do I watch a lot of soccer but basketball,football, and baseball for me are so amusing to watch
As a Bulls fan, one of the teams biggest and most recurring problems is giving up too easily. In the 2014-15 season, they had a pretty stellar lineup (including a mostly healthy D. Rose) and seemed poised to make it to the finals before LeBron and the Cavs got in their way. Then of course, Tom Thibodeau was let go, and the Bulls ultimately missed the playoffs the next year. The team started the 2016-17 year with Jimmy Butler still dominating, and even Dwayne Wade playing well in spite of his age, and they returned to the postseason, despite losing in six to the Celtics. Most teams would've seen this as a positive step and tried to build off it; GarPax, however, decided to completely give up, nuke the team, and start over from scratch, which brings us to the frustrating last couple seasons we've had, and the couple more that are almost a certainty. Yeah the 2019 draft went surprisingly well for the team (especially after how devastated everyone was at landing only the seventh spot), but that seventh title we could've--and should've--won over the last decade is still years away.
PIston fan here but i was living in Chicago for those last three championships and all the bulls fans just kept saying "let jordan and pippen leave....we're a dynasty franchise and Krause will keep it going"....i just smiled....
Jerry Krause is a perfect example how management needs to adapt and improve over time too.
He was blinded by his past achievements, failed to tweak his management style. He was important for the Bull's rise as a dynasty, but he was a key reason for their epic fail afterwards too. Calling out Jordan/Pippen in public or even forcing the team to blow up after 1998 was a crazy move. Indirectly forcing the best player in the game to leave was nuts.
I didn't get this breakup back in the day neither, like damn how did we go from champs to chumps in 6 months 🤦♂️
If you watch the demise of the bulls on espn. It will greatly go into detail how the organization had problems going all the way back to 1984.
I feel sympathy for Bulls fans because I know what it feels like to see your team suck for years but there's nothing more satisfying than seeing an arrogant snob being proven wrong. Jerry Krause absolutely deserves all of this.
This wasn’t a collapse, this was an IMPLOSION!
Come to think of it, it was even worse than the Marlins’ the previous year (see th-cam.com/video/NkOtndaStzo/w-d-xo.html)... they lost exactly 2/3 of their games, but these Bulls lost nearly 3/4!
I heard some the bulls players in the early 2000s used to come to the games high af & go gambling afterwords.
That’s probably players from every team other than San Antonio
@@Primathys why San Antonio? They're human too
The hawks in the 90s were notorious for nightlife antics
@@Trust-Yourself-1st doesn't matter, they're adult men, they can't be controlled completely
@@brianbadonde9251 Nah the spurs as a whole look like a team that would go home and read a book by the fire after winning a championship.
They traded Pippen for a wet stick of bubble gum and a breath mint 💀💀💀
Now we know who Bill O Brian Looks up too
After watching the First 4 episodes of The Last Dance, I realize that Jerry Krause ruined the Bulls after the 98 season.
Of course, it's sad to see how the Bulls crumbled so fast after winning their 6th title. But on the other hand it is impossible not to be thankful for the luck of having experienced this.
I became a fan of the Bulls in 88 and saw the team lose to the Pistons, but growing year after year until they won the 1st trophy in 91 and all the trophies won afterwards.
And it was so good. It was extraordinary to live those moments and be part of the story when it was happening. I still remember the feeling at the end of the campaign each year between 1988 and 1998 as if it were yesterday. And the film Last Dance helped me to recover these memories and to be moved by many of them.
Despite everything, I am still very grateful to Jerry Krause and Reinsdorf for building that team. And Jordan, Pippen, Phil and everyone else for having given me so much joy.
At the end of the film, I got emotional again, because I knew that it was a wonderful time in my life and the Bulls were part of it. Today I continue to support the team, but everything has changed and I know that there will be no other team like that to make me so happy.
To say that this was a volatile era in Bull' basketball is definitely true. I remember this time, and the overall "peace" among the players was much greater during the first three championships than the last three.
Maybe this is why the last three are a little more impressive? To be able to pull off win totals with a team "chemistry" like what they had during the last three is pretty remarkable. I don't know, I'm not an expert and I don't know that much about basketball.
It’s almost always the upper management that gets greedy or loses its composure. Dan Gilbert & the Cavs. Al Davis & Marcus Allen. Am I missing somebody else?
I firmly believe in the old saying don't fix what's not broken.
This Chicago team had the momentum, best player in NBA history, one of the greatest coach, and team chemistry. It was mental to dismantle a franchise like this. People make the argument they had good chance to win a 4th title in a row. Krause overlooked the risk/reward ratio, and let his ego come in the way. True shame on Krause and bulls management.
As a fan, it would have been cool to see Michael Jordan play for the Los Angeles Lakers.
How the suns collapsed from a nba finalist, to a playoff contender, to one of the worst teams
But Suns never won anything.
Mary Akopyan They also wasted a Prime Steve Nash
They made the WCF so many times and were robbed
Petite Explication yea in the mid 00s I remember those runs , they had a great fast offense
and they're also wasting Devin booker
You should do a video on the collapse of the Dallas Cowboys after the 1995 Super Bowl Championship....oof that one is gonna hurt, please make sure to stick it to Jerrah.
Krause's ego: Execute Order 66
This is one of my favorite series on youtube. It's like nonstop information from a water hose that dives deep into the behind the scenes of each team. Love it guys. Keep up the good work.
Imagine if they didn’t break up, could had a 4-peat in 99’ then possibly playing against 00’ Lakers in the finals omgggggg
The Lakers would not have been there because Phil would still be on the bulls
J S I know but even if Phil wasn’t there I feel like they could still make the finals. Shaq was so dominant and Kobe was hungry
Something that would have been crazy is if Dennis Rodman played for just one more year with the Lakers. If he had, he would have gotten another ring with Kobe and Shaq. I always forget that those 3 played together during the shortened lockout season.
Alex Kanyima who? Dennis?
It would be the Spurs in the final guys
There would have never been a way to replace Jordan and Jackson. Ever.
@MP 81,16,18 CATS By the time that Jordan was drafted (at #3 btw, because the league put greater value on big men) to Chicago, he also was part of the 1984 Olympic team and his addition just as a rookie out of college got the team to win the gold handily before he even put on the Bulls uni. So just thinking about it, he was an NCAA champion and Olympic gold medalist before he laced up for Chicago and to top it off impressed the likes of Dean Smith, Roy Williams and Bobby Knight. There's luck which GM Rod Thorn, just before his firing by Reinsdorf the following year, would handily agree happened and then there's someone with a solid state of fundamentals and a mother of a competitive drive like Jordan.
Very ironic to have such a good defense in the '98 finals where the Jazz scored only 54 points one game, at the time being the lowest score since the shot clock, only for the Bulls to score even lower next season.
For the entirety of his career with the Bulls, Jerry Krause resented Jordan, and later Jackson's celebrity and the credit they got for the Bulls' success. He can claim he was misquoted all he wants, but it's clear he felt he was underappreciated and his driving desire was to show the world that he could build a winner without Jordan and Jackson, and that it was the organization HE built that was great. He retired without generating another winning SEASON. We'll never know what Jordan and Jackson could have accomplished without Krause, but we know exactly what Krause accomplished without Mike and Phil.
It takes a secure leader to be above resentment. Krause certainly lacked that attribute. But had he been more selfless and secure, he would have been comfortable with all the attention his staff had been getting - and he'd also be aware of how much respect and attention was already coming his way, he was one of the more respected GMs of his day. People just couldn't stand his lousy interpersonal skill, but they couldn't question he was the best architect of the game in his day.
Start a new series doing the opposite of collapse; rebuild
Eitan- Mermelstein i think the thing is the story of the rebuild is always told but no one tries to remember the collapse
Look at the astros and 76ers, the story is already there
Luke Essinger the 76ers havent actually done anything yet (and will not be able to do anything unless they get better)
@@bobbob-iv4we are you dumb? They went from a bottom feeder team to championship contender in the course of 5 years
@@brianbadonde9251 championship contender? Maybe eastern confernce finals contender but definetely not a championship contender, YET. They have a great squad, but they haven't gotten anywhere yet. They don't have the playoff experience yet to get past the raptors or celtics, and they don't have the team chemistry of the bucks. Don't get me wrong, the 76ers have most of the talent to win a chip, but until ben simmons learns how to shoot the basketball and they get some more experience, the most they will get is a eastern conference finals birth. But once again, they aren't there YET, keyword 'yet'. However, yes they have gone far from being one of the worst teams in the leauge to a legit eastern conference powerhouse.
The one thing I heard constantly from free agents that spurned the Bulls, they got rid of the greatest coach, greatest player, greatest wingman and greatest rebounder of all time for scraps and a boost to their GM's ego (seriously you should see his banner induction, a thunderous parade of boos would be an understatement). Since then, there had been misses and close calls of players originally heading to Chicago but seemingly out of the blue it never happened. They nearly got Kobe Bryant and couldn't close the deal.
In The Post-Jordan Era, You Couldn’t Get Far With Jerry Krause as your GM.
Watching the Bulls play now almost feels like a museum exhibit on ancient Rome.
thats so true. the bulls were like the 90’s lakers.
3:41 lol they're not even playing and Patrick Ewing is still sweating
someone give that man a gatorade
Lol
lmao 😂😂😂
22yrs later still rebuilding !!!
Perfect watch right after the last dance
Perfect follow up to finishing the last dance
I love collapse so much! Please make more of these!
I don't want to speak ill of the dead , but Jerry krause proved that he couldn't just make another Jordan and pippen.
And now in 2021 the hope rises again when they got a generational talent in Carushow.
Stop beers please and donate for the bulls museum !
Caruso Would've Been Perfect On The 90's Bulls Caruso Does The Little Things To Help The Team Win
Who’s here after watching the first 4 episodes of the last dance?
VisorX17 how did Krause keep his job. He took a team that at the time might have been one of the greatest team of all times, a team that might have won another ring. And destroyed them for his ego.
Devin Poli He wasn’t getting respect on his name. Lmao
Devin Poli Because he made the team that won 6 rings
@@CallMeDeeWee But would that team have won the rings without jordan, or even if he had allowed Phil to stay and everyone had stayed for 99, they may have been able to have a four peat. Krause didn't handle things the way he should have with such a great team. Along with jordan and pippen acting the way they were was also not the right thing to do, But when your the GOAT things tend to slide.
Best sports documentary series ever.....I miss that NBA era. I'm not a present day NBA hater, but the late 80s through the 90s was my childhood / early adulthood. Brings back good memories :)
Being a bulls fan has been tough lately man lmao
J Allen you can say that again
Lauri is p good. That's all I can say.
I have hope that Levine and Lauri start a new great team but I’ll always miss the Rose, Noah, and Butler days
Good years...
JellyFishSticks aman ✊🏽
Bulls got a solid squad, but most are young, needs more experience, but they might get better in the next few years.
A video of the repeat collapse of Washington Bullets/ wizards from 79' finals to 40 YEARS WITHOUT A 50 WIN SEASON.
the almost bullets hu..even when they won a chip in 78 they won like 43 games lol
By the way, Kerr won TWO rings with the Spurs. He's got 8 rings, the most of any player/coach in any recent NBA era BESIDES Phil Jackson, only players on the early NBA Celtics several eras ago have more than Kerr besides Phil. Phil has 13 rings of course total as player and coach.
These videos are fire..so well made
Jerry Krouse draft and scouted many great champion caliber players throughout the early 2000s...for other teams.
Please to a rewind video on Brazil vs Germany in the semis of the 2014 world cup
auch... :)
@bongo155 Because it was in Brazil and Germany crushed them in front of their homeland's biggest fans. I mean absolutely dismantled them in historically bad fashion.
@@kvltizt If that's the case then the Robben penalty should be reviewed first, it goes better with the format.
@@edgarmanuelzetinaaguilar6972 Oh, I have no issue there. I'm an American, we are a relative laughing stock and missed the last WC while in CONCACAF.
No one wants to go back to that execution
Even if Jerry Krause WAS misquoted, I will never give an organization more credit for winning the title than the players
Krause did what no player, NBA team or my beloved Knicks could NOT do.
End Jordan's rule and the Bulls dynasty.
I'll never understand winning championships and having the two best players and thinking...."yeah, this needs fixing"....just crazy
This series makes me cherish the Spurs more