DJI will get me about as far as I want to go these days. If I feel the need to go any further I still have an old TBS 2.4ghz ground station on a tripod with either a pepperbox, crosshair, or a yagi antenna laying around for that. Those old TBS tuned lawmates and some IBcrazy antennas with a 5.8 relay was a pretty solid setup back in the day. It’s been cool to be around for a while and see the progression over time. When Crossfire was first released I was blown away at the range they were getting on that 915mhz Lora. I bought one right at release because of that and all of the features they had planned for it. I’d say they delivered on that front for sure. I still have the original full size tx module and diversity receiver on a 680 Storm Antigravity build with a Naza V2 and 15” props. Now you got me wanting to dig out the old TBS discovery frame and build it again with something more modern like iNav 😂
Awesome video! Personally, I refuse to fly analog for a very simple reason. What I enjoy about fpv is being there, actually having a proper pov of my aircraft. And this is just not possible with analog, I would always feel like I'm just watching a poor quality transmission instead of being able to see what my aircraft sees. But to each their own!
Hi Justin, Great video and information about what is the best way to fly long-range. I just built my 7in lr quad with 2808 1100kv TOKA motors. I have to build a ground station, I just can't turn to keep the quad to get the best signal. Looking forward to seeing any information about ground station. Thanks again for the video and information about long-range
i am just curious, i only have a couple hours of simulator. since you dont bring the go pro, i assume you are flying for the experience of the flight. why use the worse video quality of analog then?
Some crazy people that want to go super long range like 10 km going to 100 kms do it for the kicks. At these distances, digital is easily out of the question. These are with fpv fixed wings. For quadcopters, if you aim for around 10kms out, you can certainly afford carrying a gopro easily. 😅
Hopefully no Amateur Radio operator is in your area operating that could cause interference, beings 915mhz is in the 33 centimeter band of Amateur Radio. Just wanted to let you know that is a possibility. Thanks for all you do!
@@dronecamps Amateur Radio can be operated from home, station to station with beam antennas without repeater towers. So if they live out in the country that is where the transmission will be coming from. 100 watts can be transmitted from these stations. So not just in cities or towns.
I'm curious to find out how they compare in a bando. Without having watched the video I think you can get longer range on analog if you go for the lower frequencies. At the same frequency I would think the DJI would have longer range. Let's see what you found out. :D
I want to get one of these bigger quads for “sporty” type flying just for enjoyment really (no go pro). Cruising up high, then diving, as well as some low basic maneuvers over and around trees. Split S, loops and low fast flying. All within 2 miles large open areas some hills. They both look amazing.
Hello from New Mexico, I'm about to start building a Flywoo Explorer LR 4 V2 with Flywoo Dave-C-FPV 1404 2750kv motors for long distance and would love to hear your recommendations , I don't like Dji please
I want to fpv a big rc cargo plane (e flite ec1500) and I just need around 5 miles of range but I want a really good quality camera and very stable signal even though I’m in a fairly busy suburban area. Battery life isn’t a problem as it’s huge and I can fit a 16000 man battery or 2 8/10 thousand mah batteries. What do you recommend? Take into account there are quite a few tall buildings surrounding me. Is it possible? I’ve always dreamt of fpv-ing that plane and I’ve finally found somebody who clearly explains fpv since I am a complete beginner to fpv. What fpv setup do I need? Thanks a lot mate
I keep bumping into a limit around 5 miles on 5GHz. That's with both analog and Walksnail. Thinking about finding a good antenna tracker and increasing gain. Wanting at least 7 miles so I can fly over the local ghost towns.
Het Justin, hows it going. Here in Argentina some friends have done 30km one way distance with Walksnail and the AtomRC Dolphin wing. I think for long range those are great numbers. This was able to be done with the VRX as a ground station and custom helicoidal antennas.
3:50 Justin I think the reason you can go farther the higher you stand or fly is because the higher the altitude the less dense the air gets so the transmission gets attenuated less by the thinner air. What do you think?
@@infotechsailor I get you and I agree that higher altitude reduces ground obstacle obstructions. I was talking about LOS applications so what I said still stands.
Gonna need a 4g phone for that. Not practical for most people. What platform do you have that goes 300 miles? Id be more interesting in that than the vtx challenges
3:50 for me flat earth isn't merely a belief because there are empirical evidence to back it up, unlike the theoretical globe model that defies laws of physics; for example the second law of thermodynamics, because the globe model claims a vacuum of space and a pressurized earth atmosphere without a barrier in between which is impossible.
Who cares. We are regulated to death. If you live in small towns say in west Virginia there isn't going to be anyone enforcing laws regarding this anyway
@@flat-earther Because I BELIEVE in the United State of America. Some folks might not agree with the laws and regulations, but it is much better than having NO laws and regulations. If you live in the USA and feel that way, maybe you should move to another country where you like the laws better.
DJI will get me about as far as I want to go these days. If I feel the need to go any further I still have an old TBS 2.4ghz ground station on a tripod with either a pepperbox, crosshair, or a yagi antenna laying around for that. Those old TBS tuned lawmates and some IBcrazy antennas with a 5.8 relay was a pretty solid setup back in the day. It’s been cool to be around for a while and see the progression over time. When Crossfire was first released I was blown away at the range they were getting on that 915mhz Lora. I bought one right at release because of that and all of the features they had planned for it. I’d say they delivered on that front for sure. I still have the original full size tx module and diversity receiver on a 680 Storm Antigravity build with a Naza V2 and 15” props. Now you got me wanting to dig out the old TBS discovery frame and build it again with something more modern like iNav 😂
Great friggin video homie keep up the good work dude 🍻
Awesome video! Personally, I refuse to fly analog for a very simple reason. What I enjoy about fpv is being there, actually having a proper pov of my aircraft. And this is just not possible with analog, I would always feel like I'm just watching a poor quality transmission instead of being able to see what my aircraft sees. But to each their own!
holy ground station antenna setup batman
Very cool stuff🔥🤣
thanks for the hard work, its very informative !!!!
Wait, is the 5.8 Ghz video transmitter just spliced into the video output lines of the 1.3 GHz receiver?
Hello from Australia Justin, great video mate. Liked and subbed.
What fixed wing would you recommend for long range?
Try looking at the MOZ7
Hi Justin, Great video and information about what is the best way to fly long-range. I just built my 7in lr quad with 2808 1100kv TOKA motors. I have to build a ground station, I just can't turn to keep the quad to get the best signal. Looking forward to seeing any information about ground station. Thanks again for the video and information about long-range
You’re welcome. Glad to help out with some solid LR information.
i do mini range going for 2k out today . thanks JUSTIN . any trips to colorado planned ???????
I have a EZ-UHF module it was great but I haven't used in a while I might just get it back out and try it on my 7
Hey, thx for this Video!
I`m absolutely with you, Long Range on Analog is the best, imhO.
Always happy flyin` Dude 🤘🤙
No worries. Just going with the best that I’ve tested. For me Walksnail and HDZero even with antenna mods isn’t there for true long range fpv.
@@dronecamps ...and it`s a quite much Money you have to spend to as well... I`m proud to be a Analog-Dude ;)
Surely there are amplifiers for digital transmission to push out the distance right?
There is. You should test those. nld and normal wifi amp will work i guess? ocusync is "wifi" network system
It's the vtx that needs amplified
Cool man.
Yo, where’s the link to Ground Station build?
Same. I didn't see it.
Analogue. DJI doesn’t do long range. It has a hard limit. Unlike Walksnail or HDZero.
Wesly Varty has done 20km on DJI O3, if I recall correctly DJI removed the hard limit no? I heard guys doing 30km on vista + goggles 2.
i am just curious, i only have a couple hours of simulator.
since you dont bring the go pro, i assume you are flying for the experience of the flight.
why use the worse video quality of analog then?
Some crazy people that want to go super long range like 10 km going to 100 kms do it for the kicks. At these distances, digital is easily out of the question. These are with fpv fixed wings. For quadcopters, if you aim for around 10kms out, you can certainly afford carrying a gopro easily. 😅
Hopefully no Amateur Radio operator is in your area operating that could cause interference, beings 915mhz is in the 33 centimeter band of Amateur Radio. Just wanted to let you know that is a possibility. Thanks for all you do!
All good. Never fly near any towns or towers. Ever.
@@dronecamps Amateur Radio can be operated from home, station to station with beam antennas without repeater towers. So if they live out in the country that is where the transmission will be coming from. 100 watts can be transmitted from these stations. So not just in cities or towns.
New had a problem. 😜
Thankyou for the Video!
I'm curious to find out how they compare in a bando.
Without having watched the video I think you can get longer range on analog if you go for the lower frequencies. At the same frequency I would think the DJI would have longer range. Let's see what you found out. :D
Wasp + Vista stock antenna at ~2Km, i still can get full 50Mbps. but instant drop 50Mbps to 5Mbps in 1sec when something in between
Question: Is the Bob57 quicker than the 7" Chimera Pro overall?
Probably but why be quick? Racing footage?
I want to get one of these bigger quads for “sporty” type flying just for enjoyment really (no go pro). Cruising up high, then diving, as well as some low basic maneuvers over and around trees. Split S, loops and low fast flying. All within 2 miles large open areas some hills. They both look amazing.
Hello from New Mexico, I'm about to start building a Flywoo Explorer LR 4 V2 with Flywoo Dave-C-FPV 1404 2750kv motors for long distance and would love to hear your recommendations , I don't like Dji please
What advice would you like?
@@dronecamps gear recommendations for my long distance build
I want to fpv a big rc cargo plane (e flite ec1500) and I just need around 5 miles of range but I want a really good quality camera and very stable signal even though I’m in a fairly busy suburban area. Battery life isn’t a problem as it’s huge and I can fit a 16000 man battery or 2 8/10 thousand mah batteries. What do you recommend? Take into account there are quite a few tall buildings surrounding me. Is it possible? I’ve always dreamt of fpv-ing that plane and I’ve finally found somebody who clearly explains fpv since I am a complete beginner to fpv. What fpv setup do I need? Thanks a lot mate
will 1.3Ghz interference with GPS which is around 1.2-1.5Ghz? I am interested for LR in future
No it doesn’t
I keep bumping into a limit around 5 miles on 5GHz. That's with both analog and Walksnail. Thinking about finding a good antenna tracker and increasing gain. Wanting at least 7 miles so I can fly over the local ghost towns.
I heard the matek 1G3SE VTX is good for long range but matek doesn't want to sell it anymore for some reason
@@flat-earther Yeah, 1.3GHz goes a much further distance since the air doesn't absorb as much of it.
@@jaysonrees738 you have Problems i dont even get 500 Meters 😭
You talk about driving to find your aircraft, won’t RTH bring it back?
Not if you have a failure of a component
if you're in the mountains, water or somewhere remote, there's no driving, only walking.
@@dronecamps what are the most common failure of a component when doing LR?
Propellers, or loose esc wire.
Het Justin, hows it going. Here in Argentina some friends have done 30km one way distance with Walksnail and the AtomRC Dolphin wing. I think for long range those are great numbers. This was able to be done with the VRX as a ground station and custom helicoidal antennas.
Sounds great. Let me know when they hit 100km. ;)
6:05 are you sure 6S 8000mah is 1P and not 2P?
The geprc 6s 8000 mah is a 2p.
3:50 Justin I think the reason you can go farther the higher you stand or fly is because the higher the altitude the less dense the air gets so the transmission gets attenuated less by the thinner air. What do you think?
Nah.. it's because Height keeps line of sight. Low alt had more obstructions as it gets forget away
@@infotechsailor I get you and I agree that higher altitude reduces ground obstacle obstructions.
I was talking about LOS applications so what I said still stands.
DUDE NEED ALOT OF HELP LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO HELP HOW DO I BUILD A WING TO GO OUT TO 300MILES
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Gonna need a 4g phone for that. Not practical for most people. What platform do you have that goes 300 miles? Id be more interesting in that than the vtx challenges
3:50 for me flat earth isn't merely a belief because there are empirical evidence to back it up, unlike the theoretical globe model that defies laws of physics; for example the second law of thermodynamics, because the globe model claims a vacuum of space and a pressurized earth atmosphere without a barrier in between which is impossible.
Since flying beyond visual line of violates the FAA regulations, doesn't that make long range flights illegal? Hmmm.
Who cares. We are regulated to death. If you live in small towns say in west Virginia there isn't going to be anyone enforcing laws regarding this anyway
It's also illegal to fly FPV by yourself.
@@fen2453 Correct. Thank You.
Why would you want to be a slave AKA citizen of the federal corporation called United States?
@@flat-earther Because I BELIEVE in the United State of America. Some folks might not agree with the laws and regulations, but it is much better than having NO laws and regulations. If you live in the USA and feel that way, maybe you should move to another country where you like the laws better.