Halloween is Still NOT Pagan!
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One correction to the video. I forgot the Felire of Óengus did suggest November 1st was the date of Samhain. However, it also doesn’t suggest Samhain was a religious festival or had any rituals associated with it. Samhain seemed to be a calendrical date to indicate the end of summer. Samhain most likely meant “summers end.” Later reliable sources suggest it may have been a time of feasting and games, but there is no reference to any rituals associated with Samhain. Also, considering the celts didn’t use a Gregorian or Julian Calendar, the date of 11/1 is likely a Christian approximation. The celts used a lunar-solar calendar, meaning the date of Samhain would have varied from year to year. - บันเทิง
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One correction to the video. I forgot the Felire of Óengus did suggest November 1st was the date of Samhain. However, it also doesn’t suggest Samhain was a religious festival or had any rituals associated with it. Samhain seemed to be a calendrical date to indicate the end of summer. Samhain most likely meant “summers end.” Later reliable sources suggest it may have been a time of feasting and games, but there is no reference to any rituals associated with Samhain. Also, considering the celts didn’t use a Gregorian or Julian Calendar, the date of 11/1 is likely a Christian approximation. The celts used a lunar-solar calendar, meaning the date of Samhain would have varied from year to year.
Hello Mr. Jones I know you have much on your plate and I'm not asking you to watch this video and do a critique on it or anything but you had mentioned that samhaim has no connection to all hallows day/eve but the original writing seems indicate otherwise. It's at min 6. Love your vids, the quality is unmatched in my eyes 😇
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I seem to recall that the ancient Hebrews also used a lunar/solar calender.
As an Irishman, this is the first time I have ever heard a foreigner pronounce Samhain correctly.
Fair play.
Google is irish ?
He does mispronounce Tallagh tho ... hahaha
Same here
I pronounce it wrong because of Supernatural lol
If something is pagan because pagans did it before Christians. Then Christians should stop singing in Church because pagans use to gather up and sing also.
The obvious problem with your argument is that the Bible shows in the psalms and Isaiah that God taught Adam hymns. Not only is your argument completely wrong and dishonest, it is based on ignorance.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 so I guess we shouldn't go out at all since pagans and Satanist practice witchcraft every day? 🤨 The truth is the devil doesn't have a holiday.
I've not gone the toilet for 31 years of my life because it's a pagan tradition , next it's to hone in on breathing as this is the most deplorable pagan tradition
I think you are wrong
This doesn’t make since because in the scripture singing and dancing was definitely a thing.
I think what Michael says at the end is really the issue that some people (especially Christians) have with Halloween. The Holiday was a Christian celebration. But unlike Christmas, which still retains some vestiges of its intent and some try to honor Christ's birth, Halloween in the public domain has lost its meaning almost entirely. The only visual cues for the holiday are house lawns decorated with decomposing corpses and ghoulish ghosts. It's hard not to look at that and think, "What Pagan Holiday is this?". None of it makes me think of the martyrdom of Apostles and other followers of Christ. So maybe, like Christmas, we should be making more of an effort to revive the original intent of the holiday.
Problem is I think a lot Christians have surrendered Halloween, because they ignorantly believe it’s not a Christian celebration. Christians need to know the truth about Halloween and claim it back.
Good idea.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος-
I'd rather carve crosses & icons into pumpkins instead.
I grew up in a conservative church and denomination that claimed Halloween was too close to Satanism (which I can understand) and encouraged in their teen and preteen publications to celebrate Reformation Day (on the same date) instead. Of course, many of the harder/fringe members of the denomination also said that Christmas and Easter were pagan (though most celebrated anyway), so take that for what it's worth.
But that saints stuff is Catholic not Protestant
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Pagans are 0-3 when it comes to having any significant holidays. Jesus Stans keep winning! 🎃
@@sanshinobi3664 😂💀😂💀
What does holloween have to do with Jesus?
@@lilchristuten7568 You could ask that question about so many things. what does playing ball with the dog have to do with Jesus?
@@christy6640
How does playing ball with a dog relate to the op's comment?
I mean different neopagan sects have their own holidays but then Christianity and ignorant bigotry are pretty good friends.
I'm surprised nobody's accused Thanksgiving of being a pagan holiday.
It is also a pagan
I've seen that before. However, Thanksgiving in the united States originates with President George Washington.
He issued an executive order declaring a day of observance of Thanksgiving commemorating the end of the revolutionary War and Peace between Great Britain and the united States of America. You can find copies of this executive order online and it is well worth the read. He calls the People to a day of Thanksgiving and honor to the Almighty for his Divine Providence and protection.
yet
@@isidroperez130 please explain.
I'm surprised that Christians are not set apart. Oh wait no I'm not
Im a chilean and in mexico they celebrate "El dia de los muertos"(The day of the dead) to remember dead relatives and the beauty of being alive, there is a lot of catholic influence, and people have their saints and everything.
So in mexico is a very national and christian celebration
I love mexican culture
@Virginia Phillips
Naw. Keep that same energy. If you guys can celebrate Halloween then the Mexicans can celebrate Day of the Dead. I don't want to hear no more about this hypocrisy
Yet Jesus says to let the dead bury the dead.
@Virginia Phillips but they dont have othe Gods or something like that
@@michaellash4050 how does the celebration contradict jesus words?
@Virginia Phillips But they do that. Its a problem to remember dead people, we do that all the time
1 Thess
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil"
Perhaps elaborate more on how the dressing up in costumes and giving out candy traditions came about. Even if Halloween isn't a specifically pagan holiday, and even if it is the day before All Saints Day, I've never thought of it as being something Christian. As a kid, to me it was just a fun excuse to dress up and get candy, and not much else.
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@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- which Churches and where?
In Portugal on All Saints Day, there's a very old tradition of "Bread of God" "Pão por Deus", where children in groups would request bread (this started out to get food for the starving). In some regions the tradition to carve pumpkins (carving pumpkins is very old tradition in some regions, some say it pre-dates the country which is already 8 centuries old) , and requesting cookies/cakes "bolinho" instead of bread and that would be a 3 day event starting on 31 October ending on 2nd of November. Costumes to my knowledge was never part of these traditions. Also 1st of November All Saints day is a national holiday here in Portugal, where religious ceremonies take place in cemeteries, honoring the dead. I think several other catholic countries All Saints day is a national holiday and also have the tradition of going to the cemetery / visiting graves. I know Poland and Spain do similar stuff.
@@InspiringPhilosophy What do you think of ReligionForBreakfast’s video on Halloween? It’s called “History of Halloween: Pagan or Christian?”
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- do yall an article to read on this. I'm interested
As a latino American, I think it’s important to know that for a lot of Christians coming from a background that celebrates stuff like day of the dead, or even African holidays that commemorate the dead, Halloween Can seem like a big turn off. It’s actually really customary in my country to invite the dead to participate in what the living are doing and that’s really against Christian practice and belief which is why a day like Halloween can be so polarizing.
Its always important to remember that it isn't _just_ the actual thing we do that matters, but also the way that it affects the conscience of our fellow believers and our cultural witness.
@@jameswhitley4101 exactly! Romans 14 speaks on this pretty clearly
Thank you! I'm getting so weary of debunking the misinformation over and over again each Halloween.
Halloween is satanic it is not know Christian holiday all holidays are pagan holidays and Christians should not be celebrating holidays. Norris day be worshipping worship is service on Sundays Saturdays the true Sabbath day repent
Why are people so caught up on defending a holiday where high schoolers, young adults get to dress up like jezebels, families get to put up things of the dead, kids get to idolize heavily.
Chinese folk religion has a similar festivity called the Ghost Festival, celebrated in the seventh month of the Lunar calendar or somewhere in the fall in the Georgian calendar. Similar to All Souls Day, the Ghost Festival is supposed to remember and honor the dead that visit the land of the living. Both souls from Heaven and Hell visit the living, however.
Actually, the Ghost Festival is more similar to Día de Muertos now that I think about it.
Most of it seems American to me. I am from Germany. The only thing that people do on All Hallow's Day is go to the graveyard and light a candle. What Americans do on Halloween we usually do on Carnival.
Nice explanation. Thank you for these. It's not pagan in origin but definitely modified to be associated with Evil.
The weirdest thing about these criticisms is that no one actually celebrates Halloween really.
It’s just an excuse for kids to get free sweets and for adults to party while cosplaying in a socially acceptable way.
There’s a debate Christmas is over commercialised because it should be about Jesus’ birth but people actually know why we have Christmas through cultural osmosis if nothing else, but no one knows why we even have Halloween.
It’s just a thing that you do and no one knows why, because any real reason to do it has been lost in place of getting sweets and/or pissed. 😂
Exactly
People do what they want to do for their own reasons…not to please God
The problem that bothers me is that Halloween is pagan _now_ . Through a lot of experience with neo-pagans and witches, I know they revere it.
And the increasingly obscene obsession with death and fear is unacceptable. Hence why my family and I celebrate Reformation Day on Oct 31, basically a celebration of the reformers and German culture.
@@lausdeo4944 dressing up as a wizard isn't nearly as bad as celebrating the reformation, as celebrating a time when there were people who left the true Church and fractured into hundreds of denominations all trying to re interpret scripture their own way.
@@Thedisciplemike Right....
As you noted, the word ‘Samhain’ itself in Irish Gaelic (_Samhuain_ in Scotts Gaelic, and _Sauin_ in Manx Gaelic) simply means “summer’s end”. In these languages, it is also the name for the entire month of November (e.g. _mìos an t-Samhain_ in Scotts Gaelic).
Bede's "Blood month" is also reflected in the Welsh (another Celtic people) name for November - _Tachwedd_ - an old word meaning "slaughter", referring to the culling of the herds at this time of year.
The _Tochmarc Emire_ (The Wooing of Emer) from the Ulster Cycle clearly marks Samhain as a cross-quarter day - celebrated at the halfway point between the Autumnal Equinox and Winter Solstice. That day, of course, varies from year to year, but it's in and around the 7th of November on the modern calendar.
Hutton's work is a great resource!
Whenever people claim that Halloween is 'Satan worship' or whatever, it seems odd to me how, for a 'satanic' holiday, it involves very little worship of Satan-- or any other false gods, besides, maybe, candy. A symbol has three dimensions-- there's the actual symbol (a word, a cross, that snazzy 's' people used to draw in their notebooks), the thing you mean by the symbol, and the thing that people think the symbol means. The 'symbol' of Halloween means many things to different people, but it doesn't carry the connotation of paganism for many people other than pagans and fundamentalism Christians. If you're not participating in the worship of false gods (bowing down or sacrificing to an idol, singing a song in praise to a false god, etc.), if you're not trying to worship false gods in your heart, and if what you're doing isn't something that other people will interpret as worshipping false gods, then what you're doing probably isn't the worship of false gods. It might not be good, but it's not paganism. When people celebrate Halloween, it is usually a truly secular holiday with no deeper meaning. Some pagans might consider it a religious holiday, but their interpretation of the holiday doesn't override the cultural consensus (yet). I am deeply uncomfortable with the dark macabre atmosphere of Halloween, and I don't think that atmosphere is godly, but Halloween doesn't have to be dark and macabre.
Halloween involves taking on the appereance of evil many times (witch decorations skeleton decorations etc) which paul said not to do
@@snopespeerreview Yeah, that's the dark macabre stuff that I think is ungodly. I absolutely agree that the dark atmosphere around Halloween is something Christians shouldn't cooperate with. I don't celebrate Halloween myself (didn't grow up with it, and I'm honestly uncomfortable with celebrating it), but I don't believe dressing up as a superhero or princess and going trick-or-treating or having a wholesome Halloween party is putting on the appearance of evil.
The Bible teaches in 2 Cor. 4:4, Eph. 2:2, and Rev. 12:9 that everyone who isn't led by God's Spirit worships Satan, whether they knowingly do it or not. Every last festival that was invented by the sun-worshiping religions were done with the intent to worship Satan. That is why God outlawed those customs!
If you were a Satanist you would know it's a high holy day to them. As well as Wiccans
Looking forward for all saints day and All Souls’ Day!
How does this argument improve the current situation that modern US celebration of Halloween is far more a pagan holiday than Christian?? This argument may be necessary for some to START the movement against the corrupt modern celebration. When do we start that?
Growing up I wasn’t allowed to go doing Halloween stuff though my mom sewed us costumes to wear on other days- and I was told it was because Halloween was Satanic but that’s hyper charismatics in the 90s for you. The fear mongering /rumors around needles /poison showing up in kids candies back then may have played a part as well. One Halloween someone, like an adult came to the door when I was between 5-7 years old and I opened the door and said trick or treat, which scared the living daylights out of me probably partially because it was dark as my parents are short I’d never seen anyone so tall before. I slammed the door in his face. Because I was so scared. Later on when I was a teenager the church we were going to, a Methodist one, was doing trunk or treating because of concerns walking around at night, which is one thing in a gated cul-de-sac but quite another in a rural car dependent area where bears and snakes and coyotes can be out and about pretty regularly even if crime was lower than in cities. For the local baptist population who were also homeschooled like my family it was pretty norm core to hear about kids whose parents wouldn’t tell them Santa was real even for a few years(not knowing he’s based off a real saint) Easter bunny Halloween Harry Potter ban etc. Strangely my parents were a bit inconsistent and lightened up Halloween and Harry Potter in later years. I know a read a kids historical fiction based on one of the daughters of Henry VIII that mentioned all saints day, but growing up that was my only experience with it as a Protestant American, I suspect my experience if I was either European Catholics or both would have been different.
A fictional character being based on a real person doesn't make them any less fictional.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing. I grew up as an atheist in a country where atheism is the mainstream, but people still burn some paper money to the dead on ghost festival so that they don't bring bad luck to the living, lots atheists continue this tradition. I try to avoid these things after believing in Jesus，because some of my experiences when i was an atheist made me realize that the spirit world is real and Satan will take advantage of every opportunity.
@@abrandpluckedoutofthefire8043
Wow the irony.
People who believe existence ends after death burning money to ghosts of the dead to appease them.
@@lilchristuten7568 yes. Many atheists contradict themself , my father is one of them , he burn paper money every year
I think their should be more of a movement to reclaim the Holiday and it's christian influences. Especially sense the secular holiday is regrettably dying out anyways. Making it something more like the Latin American Dia de los muertos. Keeping the spooky vibe, but ultimately making it a day about remembering the dead and celebrating the lives they lived and the gifts they gave us. We can keep the treats and spooky costumes, but restore the deep meaning the day once held.
Its so baffling that these people think that the early church which was generally much more hardcore about how it handled Paganism would be the group to go hardcore syncretic.
There is no Halloween like today at their time.
They have different problems back then, like to be a lions meal in rome, or being put to stick & burn alive and many more.
Btw, its done by the pagans.
How is it "baffling"? The NT shows that the apostles weren't tolerate of this sort of thing happening on their watch. What you say may be true in regards to Catholics and Protestants' revisionist versions of church history, but that's not what the Bible clearly shows.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Most folks don't seem to realize that the Apostles were constantly speaking against this kind of stuff. Even false spirits were being allowed in the church according to some of the epistles.
After the Apostles died, it's also clear that "Christian magic" was commonly practiced, at least by the common people, because the formulas have been found and the Church Fathers were speaking against it.
Then you insert the rise of the relical (magical and idol) view of the body and a list of other things like the rise of idolatry (icons) and ancestor worship and deification of the dead (the Saints) and it's very clear that beyond the first century, syncretism won out.
“When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.”
Deuteronomy 18:9-12 KJV
Sad we have to fight misinformation about Easter, Halloween, and Christmas each years
Samhain (sawin) just means summers end and was used for the month of November, the first sawin was at tlachtga in Ireland
Informative as always.
Hello. I live in Sweden and some Christmas traditons that are kept in the Scandinavian are actually pagan. For example we still call Christmas Jul or Yule which is pagan. And instead of calling Santa Claus we call him Jultomten which is also a pagan name because basiclly it means something in the style of "old man of Yule". But Christmas itself is Christian not pagan.
I think the famous Christmas tree is also pagan in origin. At least I can't see how it would relate to Jesus.
In Lev. 23, i don't see Christmas as listed as a commanded festival, and the festivals in that chapter are the only the festivals that are truly Christian. I also don't read of the NT Church celebrating Jesus' birthday or encouraging anybody to do it with heathen customs.
Allie -Beth Stucky just did a vid last night trying to argue that its a "cultish" holiday. That was just painful to watch
Haven’t seen the video but I think you can make a case that historically it’s not pagan but that it’s modern incarnation is steeped in the occult and so you may want to steer clear of it.
Don’t know how she approached it though.
It i "cultish" as in christian cult
@@jonathanbenton5142 A person can almost make a case that David and Jonathan were engaged in a homosexual relationship, but that won't make it true either.
But Samhain is still celebrated by witches and other pagans, and it falls directly on the evening of October 31st
I spread my beliefs to my friends during my Halloween party!
I would recommend Mike Winger's video as a much more comprehensive look at Halloween. It definitely isnt entirely pagan, but the way many people experience it is (for example, wiccans and satanists consider it a holy day and perform certain rituals/spells on it). And even the way it is experienced commonly is often a glorification of gory violence and sexual promiscuity, both of which are absolutely contrary to the Christian faith. Additionally I would identify any attempt to communicate with the dead (necromancy) as pagan per Deuteronomy 18:9-14 among many other passages.
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hey can you please stream the rethinking hell conference? I feel as it is an important discussion that should be more accessible to everyone
Ok so I don't see how this make holloween not pagan. Hollow's eve and holloween may take place on the same day but they are not the same holiday.
Also I'm not too sure all saints day isn't inspired from paganism either since the origin isn't actually known and it appears to be a celebration for those who have passed and it seem to be big catholicism which is known for the veneration of dead saints even to the point of prayer. It reminds me of when Jesus talked about the pharasees keeping the tombs of the prophets showing that they share in the guilt of their deaths.
It is practiced by catholics. They ask the saints to pray for them and some go to the cemetery and pray for those who they believe are in purgatory. I wouldn't celebrate this as a christian either.
@@charlesrob3969
Purgatory definitely doesn't have roots in Christianity and leans more to paganism.
@@lilchristuten7568 I agree
Unless you're a heathen or catholic in the West, Halloween is for you. If you believe in purgatory, prayers to the dead, and prayers for the dead, then Halloween is for you. If your faith doesn't align with those false doctrines, then Halloween is not for you. It's not enough to claim the roots as Christian. What brand of Christianity, because there are doctrines that come attached to this day, as I listed earlier. Don't celebrate what you don't believe in. Slapping the name 'Christian' on it doesn't answer anything clearly at all. Besides, the Bible has better festivals than this anyhow.
@@marriage4life893
Did you mean "if you are a heathen or a catholic" not "unless"?
I could see the arguments about not celebrating pagan rituals to be along the lines of accepting the spirit of it.
Oddly in the UK, they seem to find dressing as characters to break the spirit of trick or treating.
Some semblance of a tradition of All Hallow's Eve
Let's celebrate all holidays we can find.
Doesn't this go hand and hand with you being allowed to eat meat sacrificed to others, as long as you're not partaking in it?
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- ah! Yes that too! Thank you bro
Sorry for leaving this comment in a year old video but if you could help me brother, where is said that we are allowed to eat that meat?
@@lordmordic8437 no worries!
The verses are 1 Corinthians 8:4-13
Saint's Day being 4/20 is pretty cool, not gonna lie
Halloween is right around the corner yet again, please make another awesome video on Halloween. It's my favorite holiday, I'm a Christian and I don't view it as some Satanist holiday. It's just a fun holiday where you watch scary movies, hand out candy and drive around looking at people's decorations.
People going with flow of the world call themselves “saints”. Paganism is in so many churches. Halloween is Pagan. Leviticus 23 has the only holy days we should celebrate.
One objection one might still have is the association of Halloween with scary stuff is due in part to actual occult practices that people did on Halloween in the 1800s. Still I don't think enjoying scary stuff on Halloween is necessarily the same as partaking in occult practices.
Fun fact, in the Netherlands we use to not! Celebrate Halloween, that for us came over by night and its getting more popular now a days, mainly because of the internet everyone is more connected. How ever here we have a deing out Celebration of Sint Maarten (Saint Martin) wich is hold on the 11th of november, were Children would go passing neighborhood with a light decorated with a nice lampion, to sign at people's doors and in return they would get Candy, for their nice singing or not so great singing, and there hardwork for the homemade or at school lampion, it comes from a Catholic tradition i believe but mainly parts of the Netherlands and Africa and carabian island i think. Dont get this tradition confused with Sinterklaas ( Santa Claus) with is hold on the 5th of december.
Those might be Pagan aswel, but i know for sure they are rooted in Christianity and Catholism .
Would be fun to see a Video on that IP.
It’s not that simple to rule it out as “Halloween/Samhain is Christian, deal with it” especially since there are tales associated with travels to the Otherworld on this day, such as Echtra Nera (Adventures of Nera). “A Structural Analysis of Echtra Nerai” by Alden Watson supports this with the idea that a feast occurs on this day. In addition, Proinsias Mac Cana in “The Learned Tales of Medieval Ireland” states that the traditional season of storytelling begins at Samhain and lasts until Beltaine. This is referenced in another tale composed in the 8th century where Forgoll would visit the house of Mongán mac Fiachna where he would tell tales every night during this season. This would indicate that prior to Christianity, Samhain was a feast day that celebrated the end of the harvest and initiated a season where trained storytellers would offer tales.
1Thessalonians 5:22 we should abstain from any appearance of evil, I don't know how it can be okay for a Christian to where ghost, vampire costumes etc and take sweets from strangers when there are witches and devil's agents among us in the community.All This is paving way for the coming of the beast, people need to take care of their children because there is a huge wave of spells affecting this generation and those to come
I think a lot of you need te rewatch the last 10 seconds of the video…
@inspiringphilosophy what do you celebrate exactly ?
Guys all the Holy Days(Holidays) have been marketed to get people to spend their money on Turkey, Candy, Expensive gifts etc. Observe a Holiday as a Holy day and all will be well🙂
There's no money to be made on a pious day of celebration. The holy days in many cases were times of subtle contemplation, many times for fasting, and to rest from work and spend with family, going to Church and celebrating the rich Christian history. No money needed to do any of that.
@@Thedisciplemike Precisely my friend🙂
@@Thedisciplemike However there is if your going to have feast and eat just as the Bible says in today’s time you will spend a lot of money. Y’all do not do exactly what the scripture says to celebrate those Holidays and Sabbaths. They ate on the Sabbath.
@@beatforjesusbykellym2104 your definition of feast is not how the ancients defined it. A feast for Christians means a gathering and eating of the meal of Christ's body and blood. Celebrating the Mass, which is simply bread and wine
I still don't know why it would matter if it was.
W take
You cannot serve two masters. If your actions favor the one, then you cannot be serving the other.
So don't serve two masters.
Celebrating All Hallows Eve is not serving to masters. Now it can be, but it isn't inherently.
Drums can be used to glorify god, but they can also be used in satanic rituals. Are you claiming we should throw drums out of our church services? What about symbols? Even David called for the symbols and the timbrels to be played and worship.
Just because something can be used to give a reverence to satan, doesn't mean it is. God has created all things, including October 31st.
@@holtscustomcreations Christian heavy metal isn't satanic either. Pastor Bob Beeman and Sanctuary International indeed rock!!!
So, what exactly Christians are supposed to do on Halloween? I understand Christmas, celebrating the birth of Christ, I understand Pascha, celebrating the death and the resurrection of Christ but what we should do on Halloween?
Dress up and eat candy. Nothing wrong with that
Im Christian, I dont celebrate Halloween, but I do love me a good spooky story and candy! Though, cabt have much of it this year. Decided to go on a diet. Health is important.
I usually just watch a movie or watch some youtube videos
I give out candy to the kids coming to the door, eat a little myself, and watch a spooky movie. Maybe listen to some spooky music, too. Monster mash, anyone?
Oh, and the next day, Nov. 1st, is All Saints Day, which is a day of Holy Obligation. That means you should attend Mass. Nov. 2nd is All Souls Day, which means you should pray for souls that have not reached heaven. Halloween, Oct. 31st, is pretty much a secular Holiday for kids, although some adults have costume parties. Halloween just means the 'holy evening' before All Saints Day.
Drunk History has a funny video on the birth of the modern celebration of Halloween.
As a Christian, I am not against celebrating Halloween whatsoever. Of course I would be against people killing animals (I met a guy who said that as a teenager he would go with his friends to find black cats and kill them in torturous ways…), worshipping Satan, cursing people, etc. I think most people don’t enjoy these things whether they’re Christians or not.
Now, the typical hang outs, dressing in costumes and eating sweets (as well as the fun scares - I think they’re fun anyway) are perfectly fine to celebrate.
As a Presbyterian, however, we LOVE to celebrate the posting of the 95 theses by Martin Luther, Reformation Day.
The more I read about the actual origins of Halloween, the more I'm convinced that the debate over it is in some way rooted in a Catholic vs. Protestant rivalry. Protestants who are more decidedly anti-Catholic are much more likely to not only oppose Halloween but actively support replacing it with Reformation Day which obviously isn't a thing among Catholics. Its connection with All Hallows' Eve, and by extension All Saints' Day, could be a root cause for this, as many early reformers also rejected the celebration of Christmas for similar reasons since they saw it as pagan and connected with saint veneration (the feast of St. Nicholas) and Catholicism. The perception nowadays of course still varies among many Protestants and is made worse by the fact that not only do some Christians claim Halloween is pagan, but that many neo-pagans and practictioners of Witchcraft are increasingly making public statements affirming this, and saying "yes, Halloween is pagan and it's our Holiday! Join us!" which makes the whole matter worse and ruins its meaning for many people.
wasn't it that all saint's day/all souls day and samhain got merged eventually into the modern halloween?
If there's one thing I've come to realise, to my dismay and perhaps to the Lord's displeasure despite His foreknowledge, its that the squabbling and quibbling among believers, and the internal division born thereof will never stop... That said, as always, kudos Mike...
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what are your thoughts on this video: it is Randall Carlson and his take on halloween:
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It doesn't matter because we should only observe God's feasts from the Bible and not man-made feasts. Yeshua Hamashiach (God in the flesh) was a Jew and the Creator of the festivals in the Tenakh (Old Testament). Every other feast is non-Messianic and not from YHWH, the God of the Bible. Halloween is therefore undoubtedly a pagan festival, even if some Christians one day felt the need to create an extra-biblical "holy" day. Halloween today is obvious a heavily satanic influenced event ... just open your eyes. Nobody need to be an Einstein to figure that out.
It's really this simple.
I like Halloween because spooky aesthetics are cool, leave me alone.
Me too. I'm Christian, and I love celebrating Halloween for its Spooky anesthetic and not because of the devil.
Nailed it again good sir 👌🍻
My honest guess is the whole idea of Samhain being on october and being about the dead embarrassingly comes from the fictional movie Halloween 2 in 1981…. To be fair though he mis pronounces samhain Donald Pleasence at least sounds sincere when he is making his claims which is more then i can way for half the youtubers who dig up this nonesense every year… keep doing amazing work
The Celtic holiday's are divided into Sabbats and Esbats. Esbats are holidays that are not associated with the equinox. The Equinox was determined by the longest and shortest days of the year. The Sabbats mark the four seasonal equinoxes and the four midpoints in-between. This was how per-calendar people kept track of the year. Samhain is a harvest festival and it was always celebrated on the nearest Sabbat to the end of the growing period. As Western Europe, the British Isles, and Eastern Asia became more Christianized the common folk, who were mostly illiterate, blended their old traditions in with new. This is how we get things like Yule logs and trees at Christmas and Easter Eggs and rabbits on Easter, even though Yule and Ostara are earlier in the month than the Christian Holidays. The word Pagan itself means "people of the country and not of the city," so much of this cultural blending happened among illiterate rural populations who still used these traditions as a means to live by.
it doesn't matter if it's pagan imo... its a day that glorifies darkness, fear, evil, all not of God. We shouldn't partake in it.
the "something is pagan argument " isn't enough cause that's an unliveable standard with all these pagan things integrated into our society like brands of cars. clothes etc. the calendar, bdays etc
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- No clue what youre referring to im not indicating what youre talking about
But November 1st is a cross-quarter day, meaning it falls between the autumn equinox and winter solstice. Pagans celebrated the passage of the Sun's orbit, and there are 8 major crossing points. What's so confusing about that? Even if All Saints Day has a different origin, it's natural to assume that both All Saints Day and Samhain would have influenced our modern Halloween, which is surely unlike either of them.
Halloween itself dosent glorify God
2:21 The most important point, that is virtually ignored the rest of the video and basically invalidates the title of this vide about Halloween not being Pagan.
"He proved that Halloween isn't pagan, but since someone else is doing pagan things on that day, its a pagan holiday."
Deep.
@methodius--9405 Modern Halloween is the culmination of different beliefs and historical traditions. It doesn’t matter if some parts of it stem from Christian things if the modern holiday primarily focuses on the pagan elements that came later. Go into a Halloween decoration store and tell me the overwhelming theme is and you’ll see paganism and death and fear and costumes that have nothing to do with Christianity.
@@razzendahcuben Not “someone” else is doing-almost everyone else is doing. The entire theme of modern Halloween is to celebrate death, fear, monsters, witches, paganism. That’s the theme. It doesn’t matter if there are Christian aspects to it as well either.
@methodius--9405 Yes. In America it is saturated in paganism and death, even if considered "fun" it's still nonetheless the theme. If Halloween has a different overall tone and theme in your country then its a different thing. If the general population is celebrating a Christ-exalting belief, a historical event, or a cultural tradition not rooted in pagan cultural ideology then it's fine. In America that's not the case.
@methodius--9405 I’d skip the last one since it’s still buying into the pagan belief that the veil between the living and the dead in thinnest on Halloween night. (Unless you would also happen to visit their grave at nighttime and leave a candle on other nights throughout the year too). But all the other options listed are fine. I also presented those as godly alternative activities for that night of the year (and many others) in these two videos. In the first one I examined the pagan and the Christian roots and compared and contrasted: th-cam.com/video/EW4pgVyEl2U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=UeNGJdqwvf7hvZBO This one is advice for Christian parents: th-cam.com/video/fHRHMXHjhsw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mmn1UvoGC4NkUljG
Hope all is well! I wanted to ask something! There is a book called When Rocks Cry Out by Horace Butler and is either a best seller or becoming one. In this book the author suggests that New Testament events occured in South America in places such as Peru and Brazil for example. I dont believe this and I dont think you do either. However, as this book is quickly becoming a best seller, can you look into his claims n help in refuting or correcting thos claims? Thanks!
So maybe the Book of Mormon really takes place in Europe or maybe Australia now that I think about it. Interesting.
The 20th century form of Halloween is nowhere near Christian. The celebration of devil's and death. Other practices such as bobbing for apples was associated with fortune telling.
The basis for the origin of all saints day cannot account for the practices of Halloween. If they were celebrating dead saints how did change to celebrate devil's and the evil spirits?
Anyways... Celebrating death is not biblical because Christianity carries the connotation that we have eternal life and that we shall not taste death.
Luke 20:38
King James Version
38 For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- well atleast its not taking part in celebration of devils and witches, if people did those things on that day.
if you set apart a day to remember passed loved ones, i guess that would be fine. if thats all it is.
but i dont think the other practices came from all saint day. its just people have forgotten the superstitions that came on halloween and its practices. which came from other surrounding cultures
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- well yeah the traditions came with those who Immigrated here.
But when I looked up articles for a Livestream I did a year or so ago. I read something like the Catholic church spread to Celtic lands or vice versa, the celts spread.. the 2 merged traditions.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- ok
The fact all negative comments are being removed just because they hurt his feelings 💀
Great video.
Haven't almost all the holidays become something other at this point?
Pretty much how culture works; it changes over time due to cross-cultutal influences. Same reason more people celebrate Christmas than the number that profess to be Christian.
How would you respond that All Saints Day still is bad because it practices necromacy? For example, banging on pots to ward spirits in hell.
That is not necromancy.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- I'm assuming necromacy would also involve a two way conversation
“If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.
Leviticus 20:6
Communicating with the dead is forbidden in scripture. Prayer is a form of communication to God through Christ alone. Therefore, praying to the dead, be they asleep in Christ or not, is forbidden. Christ didn't pray to the dead, nor did his disciples.
And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?
Isaiah 8:19
@@marriage4life893 yeah but any Catholic or Orthodox would say those with Christ in heaven are most alive and that the God is a God of the living.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος-
Saul was forbidden to communicate with the deceased prophet Samuel.
God hasn't changed.
And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?
Isaiah 8:19
Yeshua didn't pray to or for dead believers and neither did his disciples. Only reference Christ prays regarding the dead is in John 11, where he prays to his Father to raise up Lazarus.
For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Timothy 2:15
Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
James 5:16 - context, these are church folk on earth.
We will not agree. Besides, God has fall festivals that are far better, are shadows of what is to come, and no one is on TH-cam debating if they're pagan or not. They came straight from God's mouth.
It's a good thing God's festivals don't involve necromancy.
Just IP with his annual PSA about how not all holidays aren't pagan holidays.
As this guy is wrong about christmans he is also wrong about Halloween: The origins of Haloween date back to pagan practice and relate to the time when nature dies off (roughly november). This was considered a no-time between the end and the beginning of the new year (later the calendars changed. The harvest was done, surplus livestock was slaughtered and preserved because it couldnot be fed in times of winter. Also in this time the contact with the deceased was more easily accessable and used for getting advice for future times which was also sought. Probably the tradition of „Rauhnächte“ (see below) was originally placed in this period of time (and later was postponed to the winter solstice). In this part you find the element of contact with the dead and deceased and remembering which is still strong in christian and western traditions and different hollidays in this time. (Yes muslims, the dead are collected by the female godess Hel and live on in her abode untill reincarnated.) Later the christians just placed a thematically similar „own tradtitions“ in this time of the year.
The next aspect of this time is the sharing of goods with the needy and unlucky to have them survive the winter times. In this was included a sort of social police going against the rich and greedy ones dones by gangs masked groups frigthening and robbing (sometimes probably also killing) the most asocial, rich and greedy ones and providing the this stuff for the poor and needy to easen their hardship (one may find this theme in the „Odins wilde Jagd = Odins wild chase“ probably stemming from the masked gangs using some shamanic and berserkr-technics to get the job done eficciently.). This element you still see in the threatening „tricks or treats“-tradition and the element of collecting food by going around.
The weakest argument of this guy is him always giving "no medivial written sources" as some kind of proof for cultures withnio traditions of written recors (like the celtic one). That's rather pathetic because Wikipedia mentions written irish sources from the 9th century: "Samhain is believed to have Celtic pagan origins and some Neolithic passage tombs in Ireland are aligned with the sunrise at the time of Samhain.[3] It is first mentioned in the earliest Irish literature, from the 9th century, and is associated with many important events in Irish mythology. The early literature says Samhain was marked by great gatherings and feasts and was when the ancient burial mounds were open, which were seen as portals to the Otherworld. Some of the literature also associates Samhain with bonfires and sacrifices."
Ask Glenn Danzig what he thinks Samhain is.
Even if it did happen at the same time, who cares? Like Richard Rohlin says, "keep up the lip and we'll baptize Toyotathon."
Real Christmas experts (I wish) celebrates christmas starting from Chanukah! Dr.Brown says, Not only Jesus shine a light to push away the darkness, he IS the light.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- It's closely related by the fact of lighting a light to push away the darkness. 25 kislev, 25 december, that's close enough to me.
We don't have to celebrate Hanukkah as New Covenant believers, but it's not a sin either. John 10 even describes Jesus observing it.
@@hotwax9376 Fair enough. Some people says the first channukah happened after jesus, tho you confirm it happened before. Chronology is such an intricate thing.
@@SaintMatthieuSimard Right. It took place in the second century BC, so it not only predates Christmas but also the event it commemorates (the birth of Christ.)
Isn't halloween more of a north american thing (maybe Europe too)? I'm from south america and we have almost nothing resembling "halloween" during October..
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- I'm also a prot lol I just thought this halloween debacle is more of a cultural thing
(it doesnt matter with the video) As a Christian I always had this this question, if someone dies prematurly, like. 15etc... Without finding love, can he marry in Heaven?
Jesus answered this directly and clearly. There is no marriage in heaven. Marriage is a specific sacred covenant ordered toward the good of the spouses and the production and education of offspring on earth. That doesn't mean you won't love in heaven. You won't have a body until the resurrection, anyway, so I don't know what the point would be.
The Bible has a fall festival called Tabernacles, and it looks forward to the time when God will dwell on earth with his people, and looks back to the time his people dwelled in tents with his presence in the wilderness. It's in Leviticus 23. And, Zechariah 14 tells us that the nations will go to Jerusalem- not Salt Lake, the Vatican, or Mount Athos- to keep this week-long festival year after year. So much to look back on and look forward to with this fall festival. 🎉
Honoring or remembering a deceased saint or family member is one thing... But, having a holiday that promotes communication with spirits and the dead, promotes witchcraft and sorcery, promotes dressing up as evil characters like Jason and Freddy, and promotes mischievous behavior is not biblical. I don't care who started the "holiday," the fact is, nowadays, for most of the world, it's just glorification of evil. We are called to be in this world but not of this world. We are called to expose the deeds of darkness, not partake in them.
Exactly, if kids dressed as princesses and princes or other non-problematic costumes then you can consider it a pagan holiday which isn't anti-Christian. But a lot of people dress up as spirits, which is definitely not Christian and is a sin
why do you hate fun?
These people are just liberal Christians. They really participate in everything that the world does
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- that kind of think wouldn't be pagan at all, even if the tradition has pagan origin.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- what about Samhain?
0:11 thank you so much
I've always wondered why it matters if this is pagan.... how does the origin of a holiday about giving kids candy and dressing up for fun effect your relationship with a god?
IF there was a pagan worship of the dead tradition in the Fall, I think it would have been the work of Christ and the Church to sanctify it into All Saints Day anyway.
Videos like this one are eventually what confirms for me that all such pro unbiblical holiday vids are wrong. When you can't acknowledge the most obvious holidays as pagan, it evidences why you can't acknowledge the less obvious ones. Some folks get way too caught in irrelevant differences and forget that the spirit behind the practice is what matters. And no amount of topical difference changes the spirit. Hence, such differences exist even among obvious pagans, even in their mythologies, even in the same nations.
He'd likely completely miss that All Saints Day is pagan, for example, because he wouldn't understand that copying the Day of the Dead worship celebration as worshipping dead saints (under the language game of "generation") is still necormancy. You're simply replacing somebody else's ancestor spirits with your own.
Except, dead saints weren't being worshiped, and even if they were, that's not "necromancy" by any definition.
I can see that critical thinking is not your strong point. Cheers.
@@razzendahcuben The fact that you're defining necromancy independent from worship already shows that you're projecting. When the bible speaks of necromancer, it's describing ancestor worship. Do a proper search on what the yiddeonim are.
No surprise, likewise, that you don't define worshipping the dead as having idols (which you probably don't define as idols), as praying to them, as assigning them domains of power that you pray to them to gain their favor within, and all the other practices that pagans do their gods (including ancestor worship). It's just a coincidence somehow that it's the exact same system.
(And saying cheers at the end of your abuse doesn't hide that you're an abuser, btw.)
Halloween has pagan and Christian origin. We can't choose in which source believe. It's cherry picking.
Probably Samhain was actually on November 1st.
It may not be a specific pagan holiday , but has become a day of sacrifice and ritual amongst the occultist community and with that being a fact, keeping in mind the bible advises believers in Christ to not become equally yoked with those working iniquity, I'd advise all Christians to stay as far away as possible from this holiday. Too many of you intellectual Christian youtubers are here condoning a sense of compromise toward the infallible word of God, and to be honest it's unsettling to say the least.
There is nothing pagan about giving away free candy to kids dressed as ninja turtles and princesses, as far as I know.
The real question is does God approve of, Christmas, Easter, Halloween. Christianity refuse to really look in to this question. Another question why will christians keep holidays to God invented by man but refuse to keep holidays started by God. Levi 23. Gods holidays picture Jesus ministry of his first and second coming.
I only like halloween because i like spooky stuff and its and important time to think about real dark stuff...
Human evil...
Really terrifying.
That's a good way to look at it. Instead of celebrating evil, use it as a day to ponder the evil side of humanity and all the horrors it's brought upon the world. And then set aside another day to celebrate the good side of humanity as well.
@@hotwax9376 Yeah, in my personal case. I converted to christianity not just for the intelectual discussion od God existence and my personal experience. But i have studied an read a lot of human evil. Books like
Evil. Roy baumeister
-Anatomy of human destructivness. Fromm
-The rape of nanking. Iris chang
-Carl panzram autobiography
-The gulag archipielago. Zolzhenistyn
I find that reading about evil and how easy its for humanity to corrupt good things, its really good to understand our need for God and to live with love in our hearts, serving others instead of worshipping evil anf ourselves
@@hotwax9376 at least, studying human evilness and tragedy has let me to understand the beauty of christ sacrifice and his beauty and love saves us all from our wickedness.
As Doestoevsky wrote
"Beauty will dave the world"
you like spooky stuff as in it entertains you and it's fun to you? what do you mean you like spooky stuff, spooky stuff is the complete opposite of Jesus character and the Kingdom. All the spook decorations and stories and everything spooky comes from evil and has nothing to do with God I'm not sure how one can think to like it. Now being interested in human evil I can understand because it's also interesting to me how human is so wicked yet we know why and the bible tells us time and time again men are wicked.
Galatians 4:9-11
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
The Félire of Óengus (and Tallaght, pronounced "Talla" not "Tallow" btw) is a text written by Christian monks in Ireland while they were converting the native population to Christianity. It is not a primary, unbiased source that accurately describes "heathens" (as the text would put them). Halloween's traditions do come primarily from Samhain. How do we know such things? Primarily down to oral tradition and linguistic evidence. I can't explain in a single comment but I'll finished with what irked me the most:
Samhain, in Irish means "Summers end". It was celebrated to mark the end of harvest, not in April. There is absolutely no evidence that Celts celebrated all of their gods in April - What did they call this holiday? The closest would be Beltaine (around May 1) in Ireland. Jack-o-lanterns, trick or treating (Americanised form of guising) among many other things were practices exclusively practiced in Ireland and Scotland before their departure for America. There are no Christian equivalent explanations for these.
One last thing, Samhain also used as "November" in Irish. The date for the pagan holiday is believed to be Oct 31st because its an approximation of the halfway point between the Autumn equinox and Winter solstice (which they built an entire passage tomb). It's fair enough that to say Halloween has a legitimate Christian observation but to dismiss the oral and archaeological evidence because of a Christian text is not good in terms of research.
Edit: I took out calling the work awful. I looked at your longer video and perhaps your arguing semantics more than anything but the points above still stand.
Think about how it has been perverted, Christmas isn’t even his actual birthday. He doesn’t receive any gifts then. It was taken from pagan practices ref Jeremiah 10:4 where they chopped down a tree and decked it with gold and silver. Then they sacrificed kids under those idol trees, which was an abomination to God. People say I just like giving, yet they don’t give anonymously, they want others or at least the person getting the gift know they got them something.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- People will do what they want to do for their own reasons including making up their own holy days and celebrations and changing calendars and sabbaths
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- I wouldn’t say “the only corruption”. Merchandising it is only part of it, if you think about the it. They are all about over indulging, also lies that we tell our kids of a magical man, the fact it isn’t even his day of birth. I’m not judging anyone, I will be with my family on these days too. But it makes you think when you read forsake not the sabbath…it’s like he knew we would forget. And when he says “damn those who do not love truth”… there isn’t much truth in it. 🤷♂️
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- I say over indulging because we literally stuff our faces, max out cards ect. If we are to beware of drunkenness, surfeiting, and the cares of the world-luke 21:34 the holidays are full of those things.
Call it Samhain because that’s it’s real name.
You can say all you want that Halloween is not Pagan in origin, but there is no way to deny it is most definitely Pagan _now_ !
Lol, your baseless claim that it is pagan is just silly. What ancient text show it is pagan?
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- Yep.
@@InspiringPhilosophy You misunderstand me. I am not debating the origins of the Holiday. I am talking about its current celebration.
It has fully morphed into a dark celebration of death and the occult. There is nothing redeeming about its nature, whatever its origins.
I actually fully agree we should still celebrate on the day. My family and I celebrate Reformation day on that date.
@@InspiringPhilosophy There was a story I read about an excavation at an ancient church in Germany. They found that the altar had been built on top of a pagan-german holy site.
That is what we should be doing as Christians. Not worshiping on the holy sites, but building over them. Not celebrating the dark holidays of the world around us, but tearing them down and celebrating new ones _in their place_ . Telling the cosmic powers who fight against us: in your face, this is God's now.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος- Deus Veult! :)
How is Halloween a Christian Holiday? Can I get scripture that tells me it is please? Any of Paul's, John, or Peter's writings or the Gospel will work. Thanks in advance!!!
Halloween developed centuries after Scripture was written, so there are no Scriptures about it. And, of course, it does not have to be in Scripture in order for it to be thoroughly Christian.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 then let's call it what it is. A man made tradition/ festivity started by the "Christian" institution, the catholic church. There is nothing Christian about All hallows Eve or the day of the dead.
@@shinryuken5423, yes, there is, and I'll call you by what you are: heretical ignoramus.
@@tryingnottobeasmartass757 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry my friend. Christians don't build altars to the dead to remember them or believe they come back a specific day of the year.
I'll agree that what it is today isn't what it started out as because other traditions and superstitions were mixed in but just like Christmas isn't a Christian Holiday neither is Halloween. And i like Christmas for what it is today. Halloween though..... You need to be a heretical ignoramus to celebrate that and think you're Christian.
@@shinryuken5423, I know very little about the day of the dead, but that is not a Catholic "holiday". That is a cultural observance, and the Church does not celebrate it. It is not on the Church calendar. There is no special Mass for the Church to observe on that day. It should not be confused with All Saints Day, which is a celebration of every faithful Christian who has ever lived, or with All Souls Day, which is a day to pray for all of your loved ones who have passed from this world. And the Catholic Church does not teach that the Dead come back on a certain day. That, again, it's part of the day of the dead, which, again, is a cultural celebration and not a celebration of the Catholic Church.
Halloween is a Christian holy day that was taken over by paganism. Samhain (sahm ha-een in Celtic German) and Halloween are two different times. Me and mine, we celebrate the Day of the Dead. A big feast to honor the dead and send them off to whatever place they earned in life. Most people have ghosts. We don't. Asgina is is translated ghost, but means demon. Ghosts around the world moan and groan and rattle chains. De:Asgina cry out to their master, Bu'u, Satan.
I typically appreciate your attempts at logical research on most of these biblical topics, but on this one your preconceptions show your lack of research and thus ignorance on the subject.
It's funny because we don't do these traditions everyday do you? Only when the Nations do it hmm
2 Corinthians 6:14 Be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness?
Are you guys still wearing your costumes?
Whatever man. Celebrate it all you want. I won't. 🤝🏼
Typical response of someone who disagrees. No facts, just whatever
@@thomashawkins6597
Because why waste time with y'all ? There's no convincing you so do what you want. You will not celebrate with you.
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος-
And I feel the same about you guys 🤷🏽. But it doesn't make sense how Worshipping YHWH alone is idolatry 🤣. But whatever
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος-
No, that's what you did. Nobody in the Old Testament was worshiping Jesus and that's the reality. If you want to claim Jesus is prophesied in the Old Testament that's fine. But he would only be prophesied as a messiah figure not as the most high. You guys turned a mere man into an idol. There is no trinity. Everyone in the Old Testament worshipped Jehovah alone or YHWH
@Methodius -Μεθόδιος-
It's literally so ridiculous to say worshipping YHWH alone is idolatry. If the Trinity was in the Old Testament there would be a variety of scriptures you could run to. But you can't. Your main go to scripture is the creation account where God said let us make man in our image. When anybody can easily just say he was talking to the Heavenly Host. That isn't hardcore proof of some Trinity at all