Yes Motorweek, I always go by the seat of my pants. My base Civic feels like a 8 second 0-60 until I add a fart can and a two level spoiler and then by the seat of my pants it feels like a 4.0 second 0-60 car!
Sergio i got that, im tracking but a lot of potential buyers like i was got turn down after multiples attends on getting one because the ADM 11B is not a job that pays a 50k car
Haha the propaganda! In a year or two when these are still in production and being discounted from MSRP the idiots who fell for the lies and paid $15-$20k over sticker are going to be crying.
I love seeing videos of the Type R, I make a lot of them myself in my Championship White. I also wanted to say, it's true, ALMOST not torque steer at all.
@@layne4376 the 4.9 car was a pre production model that had more boost and HP. Car and Driver stated that in the test against the Focus RS which destroyed the Type R in all acceleration tests.
@@poolplexer Apparently quite a few idiots. With an above average driver it's still hard to hit 60mph in under 6s. Quarter mile is firmly 13.7 - 14.2 @101-105. Really depends on strip condition. Mods make a big difference
Robert if you’re familiar with motorweek you’d know they have access to a full test track and with quality instrumentation. This was a press outing where official numbers weren’t being tested.
To be fair I wouldn't call it a sleeper! I have the FK2 (2015) that didn't get to the US and think they are superb cars, 0-60 isn't it's top trump but handling and poise are superb!
LOL I Just got done watching the Smoking tire's Type R video at Road Atlanta. The demand for these are out of control along with the over MSRP pricing. I think it's time for Honda to consider making another Type R Accord but this time bring it to North America. I truly would be interested in one in a few years to buy as my "dad mobile" to get my son around town in! I'm in love with that blue.
Acc0rd79 People are falling for lies and propaganda spread online and by dealerships that the CTR is a one year only limited production. This is an utter fabrication. Honda will continue to make as many as they can. Prices will normalize in a year or two.
no one said they wouldn't make more. what I would like to see is a bigger car in the Accord and bring a Type R version to the USA, say 350hp or more like 400hp. The demand is there for Type Rs, I think it's time to bring more to the states.
Assuming the 2.0T with manual can't easily overpower the chassis, I also would be content with current 2018 Accord... Demand for Type-R can easily be sated by making R version of coupe/sedan in North America plant. If other manufacturers up their game and cut into sales, introducing a new R version is easiest thing to do to keep ridding that wave.
Subaru WRX is your answer man. I know we're both Honda fans but I waited a too long for Honda to offer something fast again. I had to go the BMW route for my speed addiction.
no auto available just like it should be. i LOVE honda for sticking to what made the old civic type r so amazing. i would have been sad if they switched over to some dual clutch auto in an attempt to resonate more with american buyers
I waited 20 years only to have Honda limit its production numbers to 1 or 2 per dealer along with mark ups ranging from $8k-15K. This long time Honda fan said no thanks when the dealer offered one to me for $45k. Ridiculous! I got the Si instead as a stop gap measure until Honda releases the lower trim level Type R with real world tire and wheel set up. ...and presumably without the stealerships greedy markups.
the mechanic at my job flew to Alabama and bought it at MSRP due to some guy backing out. He got there first thing in the morning and drove it back, to even buy one at MSRP, I can understand why he did that!
I remember when Honda first brought the SI , asshole dealer wanted 1,500.00 for the blue paint. Guess what I said ,went down the way to vw bought the VR6. No problems with the standard trannie not like honda.
Just wait, prices will soon normalize as production meets demand. These are NOT limited edition or one year only cars. Dealership lies and propaganda online.
So why only a choice of white or black here in Canada? I want one in the blue or red shown but neither available in Canada, what is the reason for that?
Have you asked a dealer , if government have pushed up his operation costs? Because government on leftside has in Australia . My director hates leftside guts
No they are not bud, do some research before you lead people in a different direction, unless you are talking about exporting from the USA which would apply to every car in that case.
too little too late in my opinion. the car is outdone in both looks and performance by its competitors its slightly faster than a gold r if im not mistaken but its not faster than an sti. and hell no its not faster than an RS.
It actually is faster than a focus RS. By a lot. From a roll anyway. It's able to match the other AWD competition in acceleration. It outperforms all by a stratospheric margin on a track.
It always confused me why the prior gen Civics had different interiors for 2/4 door models and 3/5 door models in the EU... I'm glad they unified that upon bringing it here to the US
The majority of Honda's have tranny issues during the first production model year, wait till the second and they'll be fixed. It's to be expected when they use all new designs vs building on older designs.
Samaritan technology, again? As enouements? How does one suppose Ferrari feels of this turn of events? Especially given the fact that it’s assembled in Wales.
Honda is one of three engine builders and suppliers for F1. At least they were in the past. They also make small passenger jets now lol. How fast is your lambo? Just saying. Never owned a Honda before.
Those big, fake air ducts front and back are gonna look pretty cheap and tacked on when the black plastic starts fading to an ashy medium grey in a few years.
The big "intakes" in the front are solid plastic too, (save for a small opening in the front right one)... Also, all that fake carbon fiber? Eww, ghastly... But I hear it's a nice enough car to drive, hopefully they de-Pontiac it a little when they refresh it.
I've heard it's a really nice fwd hot hatch.. But I'll never be a fan of fake, tacked on overstyling... I don't mind the big wing, fins etc. they're functional.. The fake vents, and faux finishes though... Oh and I found out what that small opening in the front right plastic intake vent thing is for, the horn! The friggin horn!
butthurt? Nah my dude, like I said, I can appreciate the "Fastest FWD" thing the Type R brings. I'm a RWD guy myself, but the Civic R is cool for what it is.. I like the car!. I just don't like the fake vents and faux finishes. Shit's Pontiac. I'm not alone either, lots of people are cringing a bit at the factory rice.. Hopefully Honda will listen and make the refreshed Type R a bit more tasteful.
Seat of the pants 0-60? Are you kidding. And then bad track advice. Ever heard of trail breaking? Pretty common when driving fwd cars on the track if you want good track times. I usually like motor week, but this episode needs to be trashed.
I don't mind Honda making a boy racer version Type-R. Except they should ALSO make an option package that tones down the craziness, especially in the interior. You may lose a tiny bit of performance but who cares.
Back in the 90s, I installed Brembo rotter with AEM pads and had occasional squealing. Was told that it was cross drilled rotters would pickup dust and cause squealing.
I was gonna buy one but bought a 2019 Mustang turbo which I’m very glad I did for almost half the price but you’ll get a lot more. Rear wheel drive 310hp/350 torque and a lot more. I’m not a big fan of front drive like the civic.
It all depends on reliability versus power, because the Honda will way outlast the Mustang and I'm almost sure you spent way more than half the price of the type R that you claim you did; I'm not trying to be a dick here but you're comparing apple to Oranges.
Man that's one ugly type R. I've driven the Si and that's the better car. Sure it's down on HP but it doesn't have all that gimmicky styling ad-ons. I have a strong feeling that a Civic Si-R may show up one day soon. Right in the middle with 250HP. My choice would be the VW Golf R. Much more mature. I'am 45 for heavens sake.
You are cluless if you think the Si is better than the Type R - the aero is functional and needed at higher speed - 168mph top speed from the factory - it makes a difference
The real numbers- *FK8 Type R* 0-60 in 5.2-5.7s 1/4m in 13.7-14.2 @ 102-106mph I'm being generous with the trap speed. I've never seen higher than 105mph but have heard they can hit 106mph trap. *Focus RS* 0 to 60 in 4.6-4.8s 1/4m in 13.0-13.3@103-105mph *Golf R* 0 to 60 in 5.1-5.4s (manual) / 4.5-4.7s (DSG) 1/4m in 13.7-13.8@102-103mph (manual) / 12.8-13.1@104-106mph (DSG) *The car and driver review where it ran the FK8 was a PRE PRODUCTION model with more boost* c/d clearly states that in their next test. Most people can barely get the FK8 into the 13s. Truth. And please Honda fanboys, let me know if you need proof.
Yeah because fastest front wheel drive car the boys at Car and Driver ever tested and Nurburgring class record lap time is the definition of "poser boy".
You won't like this comment from Car and Driver either: "The Type R set the bar even higher with its astonishing emergency-stopping distance (70 mph to zero) of 142 feet, which equals that of the $200,000 Acura NSX supercar we tested." Yeah that's "poser boy" alright.
Same engine the difference is the gas. All the engines for the Type R are actually made here in the US. Gas in the UK has more octane. Put that UK gas in a US Type R and you will also get 320hp. The car is actually designed to see improvements up to 99 octane but after that you will not see any hp increase.
Even if it did run a 13.6, which it did in *one* video, you need to remember that Honda sends out non stock cars for comparison tests. Car and Driver stated that in their second review of the Type R, where it did 13.8@103 in the quarter mile. I know what they run, I work on them. They can't get under a 13.7 ET, and average trap is 103mph. Most people have trouble getting it into the 14s. Best I've seen is 13.78@105.1mph. Very similar to my stock 1991 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo. My business partner has a pristine, all stock 1998 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4, and from a dig he had 2 car lengths on the Type R at 150mph. He's raced more than one, and from a dig that VR4 destroys them. He runs 13.1-13.2@103-105mph, best of 13.08@104.8mph (he saved the time slip). The Type R is slow stock. With mods it's quick, but stock it's high 13s / low 14s all day.
This car is a joke, and motor week, what happened with an official 0to60 bet you guys could only muster up a 6.0 flat so you had to give the seat by pants 0to60 lol
bigneutron77 Thank you for pointing that out! My base Civic feels like a 8 second 0-60 until I add a fart can and a two level spoiler and then by the seat of my pants it feels like a 4.0 second 0-60 car!
What rice Magazines did you pull those numbers out of? MotorTrend has it at 5.8-6.0 second 0-60! Yeah, it pulls 4.8 seconds on race gas and slicks! LOL
Sergio Aguirre sorry man it’s gearing won’t allow that time you got to go through 3 gears to get to sixty. It’s hp and weight more like a high 5s low 6s, that’s why Honda has no official 0to60 for it.
Sergio Aguirre dude do you know that there is15% less hp at whp than crank hp. So this joke of a car makes 306 crank hp which equals about 250 whp. Like a typical ricer you know shit for cars lol
@@300zxttswap6 it handles way better than that civic. It competes with the BMW m4. On a race track, it lapped almost dead even with the m4, only losing by .32 sec.
@@abuelb I'm not super familiar with that car, I have yet to work on one (most owners probably take it to the dealership). That doesn't surprise me though. I drove one out of curiosity and loved it.
@@abuelb it's like a JDM corvette but better. That N/A V8 is gorgeous, sounds amazing, and pulls like hell. I was impressed. I'm stuck on 90s JDM cars and have too many as it is, but if I found a good deal on an F I'd have a hard time saying no.
This comment is 100% ignorance - it was faster than the 2016 Porsche GT4 Cayman at the Nurburgring and the Cayman had 100hp more.....THATS how good the handling is.
Not on these man, I watched where a guy popped the hood and the fender vents actually can pull air from the engine bay. I can't remember if the forward hood scoop is functional or not tbh. The rear fenders have that lip to them to deflect the laminar airflow coming along the chassis, away from the turbulent air pockets of the wheels. *or something like that, don't quote me lol. I really don't care for the large plastic bumper "fillers" in the front and back though, even if they were somehow functional they look like old computer cases
Actually has real functional brake cooling ducts in front and a ton of aerodynamic body modifications that help with down force like the rear wing that puts 66 lbs of down force at high speeds
"Adhesives OVER THE BASE-CAR STRUCTURE..." .....IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID, LOL. Glued on extra body over the old civic body. Theirs the extra 800LBS, lol
If this car was AWD, I would go out and buy one brand new with the Markup and all. But FWD only, I'll still take it over the competitors but I'm gong to wait until the hype dies down.
The cost is simply too high. They lose out on a bunch of younger buyers because your dollar goes further with a Ford product be it a Focus ST or lower trim Mustang.
Ryushi Shiratori - You are 100% correct. I'm one of those loyalist and I never even considered any other brand, regardless of performance. I can get a Mustang GT for the same price with 430 hp but I don't want a Mustang....ever!
i dont think they type R was ever really financially comparable to the focus st. thats like comparing the focus RS to the civic SI, they are in two completely different categories.
I could gaze at this car all day,..it's fantastic to look at from every angle. Definitely not for people that pride themselves on being "normal"
Agreed! I believe it will be a sort after future classic. BTW it looks stunning in that metallic blue.
Yes Motorweek, I always go by the seat of my pants. My base Civic feels like a 8 second 0-60 until I add a fart can and a two level spoiler and then by the seat of my pants it feels like a 4.0 second 0-60 car!
Spend the money on STi then on Type R.
sti interior is shit
No one wants to pay ridiculous markups for this car. They will lose tons of sales to the competition
No they won't because they are all sold.
All sold? i know there's few of them in dealer's lots. Waiting for some one stupid enough to pay 15k + over
Sergio i got that, im tracking but a lot of potential buyers like i was got turn down after multiples attends on getting one because the ADM 11B is not a job that pays a 50k car
Haha the propaganda! In a year or two when these are still in production and being discounted from MSRP the idiots who fell for the lies and paid $15-$20k over sticker are going to be crying.
The Focus RS sells for much over Sticker price too. Most are for sale 15k above MSRP.
I love seeing videos of the Type R, I make a lot of them myself in my Championship White. I also wanted to say, it's true, ALMOST not torque steer at all.
I LOVE this car! Well done Honda!
0-60 seat of the pants. Really?! You guys don't have a Vbox Sport or a Race Logic PerformanceBox? A bit Mickey Mouse,no?
They weren't far off. Car and Driver got it to do it in 4.9 seconds.
@@layne4376 the 4.9 car was a pre production model that had more boost and HP. Car and Driver stated that in the test against the Focus RS which destroyed the Type R in all acceleration tests.
who buys a type r for 0 to 60 times lol
@@poolplexer Apparently quite a few idiots. With an above average driver it's still hard to hit 60mph in under 6s. Quarter mile is firmly 13.7 - 14.2 @101-105. Really depends on strip condition. Mods make a big difference
Robert if you’re familiar with motorweek you’d know they have access to a full test track and with quality instrumentation. This was a press outing where official numbers weren’t being tested.
I'm a proud Type R owner 🚘 best decision ever.....love my underdog sleeper 😎💪🍻👍✌
TypeR_1132 hahahaha sleeper?! You are joking right? The car that has a 20 foot wing is a sleeper
its an awesome car , and its car of the year in Australia 50k
bajabilly2004 I would hope you would like a car you bought after three weeks.
To be fair I wouldn't call it a sleeper! I have the FK2 (2015) that didn't get to the US and think they are superb cars, 0-60 isn't it's top trump but handling and poise are superb!
@@swanblake 🤣🤣🤣
LOL I Just got done watching the Smoking tire's Type R video at Road Atlanta. The demand for these are out of control along with the over MSRP pricing. I think it's time for Honda to consider making another Type R Accord but this time bring it to North America. I truly would be interested in one in a few years to buy as my "dad mobile" to get my son around town in! I'm in love with that blue.
Acc0rd79 People are falling for lies and propaganda spread online and by dealerships that the CTR is a one year only limited production. This is an utter fabrication. Honda will continue to make as many as they can. Prices will normalize in a year or two.
no one said they wouldn't make more. what I would like to see is a bigger car in the Accord and bring a Type R version to the USA, say 350hp or more like 400hp. The demand is there for Type Rs, I think it's time to bring more to the states.
Acc0rd79 I agree but I can live with the current Accord sport 2018 with a manual
Assuming the 2.0T with manual can't easily overpower the chassis, I also would be content with current 2018 Accord... Demand for Type-R can easily be sated by making R version of coupe/sedan in North America plant. If other manufacturers up their game and cut into sales, introducing a new R version is easiest thing to do to keep ridding that wave.
Subaru WRX is your answer man. I know we're both Honda fans but I waited a too long for Honda to offer something fast again. I had to go the BMW route for my speed addiction.
I like it but I'd rather have a 2-door version.
well said...i agree...
There is a coupe, but not available in Type R trim. Why the close association, do you suppose?
Love you John !!!
no auto available just like it should be. i LOVE honda for sticking to what made the old civic type r so amazing. i would have been sad if they switched over to some dual clutch auto in an attempt to resonate more with american buyers
My local Honda dealer wanted 45k. I’m good lol
35-40k dealerrship . Check Car gurus
So did a couple of mine. I drove out of state (9 hour drive) traded in my Si, and got a good deal. I'm good now.
Remember when the Integra Type R came here in '97? Dealers were adding ~ $10K PLUS to the sticker price!!!
I waited 20 years only to have Honda limit its production numbers to 1 or 2 per dealer along with mark ups ranging from $8k-15K. This long time Honda fan said no thanks when the dealer offered one to me for $45k. Ridiculous! I got the Si instead as a stop gap measure until Honda releases the lower trim level Type R with real world tire and wheel set up. ...and presumably without the stealerships greedy markups.
the mechanic at my job flew to Alabama and bought it at MSRP due to some guy backing out. He got there first thing in the morning and drove it back, to even buy one at MSRP, I can understand why he did that!
I remember when Honda first brought the SI , asshole dealer wanted 1,500.00 for the blue paint. Guess what I said ,went down the way to vw bought the VR6. No problems with the standard trannie not like honda.
Just wait, prices will soon normalize as production meets demand. These are NOT limited edition or one year only cars. Dealership lies and propaganda online.
51000 aud , in Australia
Blame Democrats , pushing up dealer costs = greedy pigs
So why only a choice of white or black here in Canada? I want one in the blue or red shown but neither available in Canada, what is the reason for that?
To bad the dealership are jacking up the price by $15k
Have you asked a dealer , if government have pushed up his operation costs? Because government on leftside has in Australia . My director hates leftside guts
btw I see them priced between 35-40k
No they are not bud, do some research before you lead people in a different direction, unless you are talking about exporting from the USA which would apply to every car in that case.
EWWWW WHAT AN UGLY CAR !
I have a Focus RS . It has more HP and it's faster . And it costs less . I like it .
Rs is on average 10-15k more
Rs is slower than the type R
Fords reliably will fail over time
35K is cheap compared to my country prices, it went above 95K
This is cool because if your into moding your car or suping it up this car gives u a good base to start off with that's really what it's for I think.
"Fuel economy remains good..." NOT GREAT, NOT Honda excellent BUT SIMPLY, ONLY, MAYBE... "good". LOL
i love my little race car
Honda Civic Type R I’m loving it ! ❤️😍🙌🏽👊🏽
too little too late in my opinion. the car is outdone in both looks and performance by its competitors its slightly faster than a gold r if im not mistaken but its not faster than an sti. and hell no its not faster than an RS.
check the nurburgring times buddy, type r is a full 22 seconds quicker than the focus rs.
Its Fwd , so it losses 1 second of the mark to awd . Being light its quicker race track and mountain roads tho
hes probably means straight line speed, which if he does he should not be looking at hot hatches
It actually is faster than a focus RS. By a lot. From a roll anyway.
It's able to match the other AWD competition in acceleration.
It outperforms all by a stratospheric margin on a track.
It always confused me why the prior gen Civics had different interiors for 2/4 door models and 3/5 door models in the EU... I'm glad they unified that upon bringing it here to the US
A type r would not be a type r with out vtec
Transmission issues already! Watch out guys!
chris corona yeah wait for 2nd gen
The majority of Honda's have tranny issues during the first production model year, wait till the second and they'll be fixed. It's to be expected when they use all new designs vs building on older designs.
Styling is a little too much for me
It looks like an expensive basketball shoe to me.
Yes, it's pretty flaming.
Those huge, ugly plastic fake "vents" in the back are NOT functional.
Absolutely gorgeous color on this car. mine would have to be Blue.
Samaritan technology, again? As enouements? How does one suppose Ferrari feels of this turn of events? Especially given the fact that it’s assembled in Wales.
I remember when 300 bhp car couldn't get 12 mpg.
Kenneth Hildebrand lmao BMW v12 engines for sure never got near 13mpg and had barley 300hp back in the day
Had a 1970 Challenger with the 383 hi-po 335 hp engine. 11 mpg on a good day.
Ramon Gonzalez like the days when Trans AMS had 400 ci engines making 160 bhp. Sad days to be a gear head indeed.
Deacon blue I feel ya there. I has a stroked 5.0 I a Mustang that pulled about 400 bhp before NOS it got a whopping 9 mpg.
Honda is one of three engine builders and suppliers for F1. At least they were in the past. They also make small passenger jets now lol. How fast is your lambo? Just saying. Never owned a Honda before.
Looks EXACTLY LIKE A SUBARU WRX WITH A FATTER ASS AND A TIN BODY KIT ADDED, PLUS AN EXTRA 800LBS TO BOOT. HONDA=COMPACT AND SIMPLE NO LONGER=FACT
Don't forget the great Honda 2nd gear grinding.
I have the issue, but you really have to bang 2nd, and it only really happens when cold. Really not an issue...
I've never had the issue so keep hating
Don't forget the great ford focus RS blown engine
Some are saying the rear ends are going out in some.
Cindy Sue it's a front wheel drive only car... It doesn't have a rear.
Great blue color
Eco data which nobody gives a fuck about but no real performance #'s 🤔
boring cars? In the 90s' they have cars like the NSX and Integra.
Have yet to see one in person, still looking forward to
Those big, fake air ducts front and back are gonna look pretty cheap and tacked on when the black plastic starts fading to an ashy medium grey in a few years.
bliglum it ain't a Hyundai...Honda plastics and materials are a lot better quality than you think
The big "intakes" in the front are solid plastic too, (save for a small opening in the front right one)... Also, all that fake carbon fiber? Eww, ghastly... But I hear it's a nice enough car to drive, hopefully they de-Pontiac it a little when they refresh it.
Haha.. Right, that's it. You got me!
I've heard it's a really nice fwd hot hatch.. But I'll never be a fan of fake, tacked on overstyling... I don't mind the big wing, fins etc. they're functional.. The fake vents, and faux finishes though... Oh and I found out what that small opening in the front right plastic intake vent thing is for, the horn! The friggin horn!
butthurt? Nah my dude, like I said, I can appreciate the "Fastest FWD" thing the Type R brings. I'm a RWD guy myself, but the Civic R is cool for what it is.. I like the car!. I just don't like the fake vents and faux finishes. Shit's Pontiac.
I'm not alone either, lots of people are cringing a bit at the factory rice.. Hopefully Honda will listen and make the refreshed Type R a bit more tasteful.
Over processed guitar, but I bought the car anyway.
I love motorweek but this feels more like a paid advertisement
They tested the car and gave their opinion. The fact that they were impressed by it is good. Just about every magazine in print loves this car.
Are you required to like anime in order to buy this car?
and drink Boba
ROFLLLLL Toy Fan ROFLLLL I'm dying with laughter at the beta male thing.
And watch Initial d
R-01373, nice!
@3:00 I want to pull off that plastic
Name of song at the beginning??
Too bad stealership marked up are insane... They are not 35k more like 45k plus tax and other fees from the stealership.
Too bad I'm not 18 anymore.
Seat of the pants 0-60? Are you kidding. And then bad track advice. Ever heard of trail breaking? Pretty common when driving fwd cars on the track if you want good track times. I usually like motor week, but this episode needs to be trashed.
I don't mind Honda making a boy racer version Type-R. Except they should ALSO make an option package that tones down the craziness, especially in the interior. You may lose a tiny bit of performance but who cares.
that car is butt ugly! honda copied the pontiac aztec, in a shrunken version. looks like a group of 5 yr olds were playing with a tinkertoy set.
the car is way too flashy
Don’t like the style it look boxy, unappealing and still has that feminine looks or better yet it looks the Aquarius from the Apollo 13.
Back in the 90s, I installed Brembo rotter with AEM pads and had occasional squealing. Was told that it was cross drilled rotters would pickup dust and cause squealing.
This car is sooooo fucking over hyped and it's way over priced this just makes waiting for the i30n ooooh so sweet
No n in North America except for the new Veloster, and that is more than a year away
its not over[priced , its a track car
35-40k . Its selling in Australia for 50 aud
They will be stealing these new ones soon... Waiting to See This New Gen swap in old EG's and EK's !!!
I like the front end of this car up to the end of the rear passenger door. But wtf is wrong with the rear?
35- 40 usd dealerships . Where are idiots seeing 45k price tag from
its selling down under for 56000aud driveway no more to pay
A lot of keyboard haters on here but drive one before you give your honest opinions!
Honda hatani düzelt gocuklu honda
Honda is doing a good job, this Civic is so amazing.
I was gonna buy one but bought a 2019 Mustang turbo which I’m very glad I did for almost half the price but you’ll get a lot more. Rear wheel drive 310hp/350 torque and a lot more. I’m not a big fan of front drive like the civic.
It all depends on reliability versus power, because the Honda will way outlast the Mustang and I'm almost sure you spent way more than half the price of the type R that you claim you did; I'm not trying to be a dick here but you're comparing apple to Oranges.
I want to see a coupe version, or maybe a sedan version.
This is a seriously unpleasant looking car.
You didn't talk about the transmission issues.😔
This car is really nice
Anyone over 20 years old should get very dark tinted windows, imagine a 40 year old man driving this thing , ?
what's your point jack ass?
What happened to MotorWeek's testing??
There's a thin line between sport and tacky, Honda went beyond it.
Allen M looks awesome!
Where is the test part? Thought it was a road test?
Name of song at the beginning of the video?
This channel just lost credibility attempting to make the front wheel drive a sports car.
Its faster than "sports cars" costing 3x the price - you are just cluless
Name of song at the beginning??
Man that's one ugly type R. I've driven the Si and that's the better car. Sure it's down on HP but it doesn't have all that gimmicky styling ad-ons.
I have a strong feeling that a Civic Si-R may show up one day soon. Right in the middle with 250HP.
My choice would be the VW Golf R. Much more mature. I'am 45 for heavens sake.
vwmatt33 agreed would take an si over this thing
You are cluless if you think the Si is better than the Type R - the aero is functional and needed at higher speed - 168mph top speed from the factory - it makes a difference
The real numbers-
*FK8 Type R*
0-60 in 5.2-5.7s
1/4m in 13.7-14.2 @ 102-106mph
I'm being generous with the trap speed. I've never seen higher than 105mph but have heard they can hit 106mph trap.
*Focus RS*
0 to 60 in 4.6-4.8s
1/4m in 13.0-13.3@103-105mph
*Golf R*
0 to 60 in 5.1-5.4s (manual) / 4.5-4.7s (DSG)
1/4m in 13.7-13.8@102-103mph (manual) / 12.8-13.1@104-106mph (DSG)
*The car and driver review where it ran the FK8 was a PRE PRODUCTION model with more boost* c/d clearly states that in their next test.
Most people can barely get the FK8 into the 13s.
Truth. And please Honda fanboys, let me know if you need proof.
and yet its faster than the focus rs on the big track by 20 seconds .
Honda limits power in 1st and 2nd on stock tune - .the car will easily go deep 10s@130+ on a stock engine 620whp/470wtq g30-770 on 33psi
For the money that the car costs why not make it all wheel drive so dumb
Its 30 seconds faster around the ring vs the awd cars in its class - thats why
Too poser boy for me.
Yeah because fastest front wheel drive car the boys at Car and Driver ever tested and Nurburgring class record lap time is the definition of "poser boy".
You won't like this comment from Car and Driver either: "The Type R set the bar even higher with its astonishing emergency-stopping distance (70 mph to zero) of 142 feet, which equals that of the $200,000 Acura NSX supercar we tested." Yeah that's "poser boy" alright.
R-01373, nice!
Why does the UK one get 320hp?
Same engine the difference is the gas. All the engines for the Type R are actually made here in the US. Gas in the UK has more octane. Put that UK gas in a US Type R and you will also get 320hp. The car is actually designed to see improvements up to 99 octane but after that you will not see any hp increase.
@@malcolmar but here in Canada we have good 94 octane pump gas. I wonder if we do get more power here.
@@mackcummy4976 You should.
is there a 2door hatch xx or jus 4door !? 😐
The low volume of sales dictates this has to be a four door to appeal to a broader market.
As seen on tv...haha
It does 13.6 in the 1/4 ,so your pants aren't far off.
Dead wrong. It does the quarter in 13.7 - 14.2 @102 -105mph.
Even if it did run a 13.6, which it did in *one* video, you need to remember that Honda sends out non stock cars for comparison tests.
Car and Driver stated that in their second review of the Type R, where it did 13.8@103 in the quarter mile.
I know what they run, I work on them. They can't get under a 13.7 ET, and average trap is 103mph. Most people have trouble getting it into the 14s.
Best I've seen is 13.78@105.1mph. Very similar to my stock 1991 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo. My business partner has a pristine, all stock 1998 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4, and from a dig he had 2 car lengths on the Type R at 150mph. He's raced more than one, and from a dig that VR4 destroys them. He runs 13.1-13.2@103-105mph, best of 13.08@104.8mph (he saved the time slip).
The Type R is slow stock. With mods it's quick, but stock it's high 13s / low 14s all day.
Michigan Roads will destroy this!
Anthony Jenkins gotta immediately swap out those rubber band tires for some 18s with a beefier sidewall
Kai Baumgartner Ill never get another car with low profiles while living in this state
Ugliest thing on the road. Will rust within 2 years like any Honda
PJAvenger Lol, What?
This car is a joke, and motor week, what happened with an official 0to60 bet you guys could only muster up a 6.0 flat so you had to give the seat by pants 0to60 lol
bigneutron77 Thank you for pointing that out! My base Civic feels like a 8 second 0-60 until I add a fart can and a two level spoiler and then by the seat of my pants it feels like a 4.0 second 0-60 car!
What rice Magazines did you pull those numbers out of? MotorTrend has it at 5.8-6.0 second 0-60! Yeah, it pulls 4.8 seconds on race gas and slicks! LOL
Sergio Aguirre sorry man it’s gearing won’t allow that time you got to go through 3 gears to get to sixty. It’s hp and weight more like a high 5s low 6s, that’s why Honda has no official 0to60 for it.
Sergio Aguirre no it doesn’t make 295 whp at the crank it barely making 300...huh now go home Honda fan boy.
Sergio Aguirre dude do you know that there is15% less hp at whp than crank hp. So this joke of a car makes 306 crank hp which equals about 250 whp. Like a typical ricer you know shit for cars lol
This thing screams "boy racer"
Good.
Better than Old Fart
Overly done
For the price they're selling this crap, I'd buy a used Lexus RCF.
Which would be a faster car anyways and more luxurious. Wouldn't handle like the Type R though
@@300zxttswap6 it handles way better than that civic. It competes with the BMW m4. On a race track, it lapped almost dead even with the m4, only losing by .32 sec.
@@abuelb I'm not super familiar with that car, I have yet to work on one (most owners probably take it to the dealership). That doesn't surprise me though. I drove one out of curiosity and loved it.
@@abuelb it's like a JDM corvette but better. That N/A V8 is gorgeous, sounds amazing, and pulls like hell.
I was impressed. I'm stuck on 90s JDM cars and have too many as it is, but if I found a good deal on an F I'd have a hard time saying no.
lmfao The RCF ran a 3:02:6 vs Type R 3:00:6
RCF as tested price $104,600 and got beat by a stock civic
Road Atlanta track times
But it is FWD.
This comment is 100% ignorance - it was faster than the 2016 Porsche GT4 Cayman at the Nurburgring and the Cayman had 100hp more.....THATS how good the handling is.
Great looking cat even though it's only available in manual transmission.
GAWD this is ugly. Great car, but yeeeesh.
It doesn't impress me. I don't like the car. I would prefer a Focus RS or Subaru WRX STi. Almost $35k for a Honda Civic ? No thanks, I pass
Jorge Tamacas I rather go with STi.
I agree with you, it's a better choice
sti is 40k usd now
Jorge Tamacas It's confirm that 3 STI owner's had switch to the Type R and they said that the CTR is more fun 👍
Watch every single comparison between the Type-R and STi. The STi loses 100% of the time.
Lots of fake air intakes, scoops etc and brake rotors set forward increasing front weight...sigh
Jake Holtz Factory Rice!
Sound like a broken record. Is that all your gonna complain about?
Not on these man, I watched where a guy popped the hood and the fender vents actually can pull air from the engine bay. I can't remember if the forward hood scoop is functional or not tbh. The rear fenders have that lip to them to deflect the laminar airflow coming along the chassis, away from the turbulent air pockets of the wheels.
*or something like that, don't quote me lol. I really don't care for the large plastic bumper "fillers" in the front and back though, even if they were somehow functional they look like old computer cases
Actually has real functional brake cooling ducts in front and a ton of aerodynamic body modifications that help with down force like the rear wing that puts 66 lbs of down force at high speeds
Everything added to the exterior of the Type-R is functional, if a bit garish. The fake stuff is unfortunately baked into the base Civic Hatchback.
I have to pay over sticker to get a grinding transmission. Shut up and take my money 💰
"Adhesives OVER THE BASE-CAR STRUCTURE..." .....IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID, LOL. Glued on extra body over the old civic body. Theirs the extra 800LBS, lol
If this car was AWD, I would go out and buy one brand new with the Markup and all. But FWD only, I'll still take it over the competitors but I'm gong to wait until the hype dies down.
This voice narration guy is like trying to sound enthusiastic when he sounds like he hates his job.
It's been the same guy for around 40 years lol
The cost is simply too high. They lose out on a bunch of younger buyers because your dollar goes further with a Ford product be it a Focus ST or lower trim Mustang.
I think you're better off comparing an SI to those cars
The people most interested in Type Rs are Honda loyalists. They aren't interested in things from ford or vw.
Ryushi Shiratori - You are 100% correct. I'm one of those loyalist and I never even considered any other brand, regardless of performance. I can get a Mustang GT for the same price with 430 hp but I don't want a Mustang....ever!
i dont think they type R was ever really financially comparable to the focus st. thats like comparing the focus RS to the civic SI, they are in two completely different categories.
Type r is a track car
looks loke it was designed by 15yr old Japanese girls on a sony PlayStation, and no AWD! they should have built it as a RWD