minecraft feature bloat - an open discussion
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- unfortunately, as games add more and more content, eventually already existing content becomes less valuable to gameplay. this is not a good thing, so what do you think should be done about it? let's consider the topic! comment what you think below!
if you wanna see more stuff i do, take a look at my other socials: linktr.ee/brendan_pett
if you wanna see gaming stuff, take a look at my other channel: / @bumblebeebowties2
music credit:
@ScruffyMusic
@C418 - เกม
SO i want to say thanks so much for the response to this video! if you want to see more, feel free to subscribe--i do video essays about art, games, writing, etc., and i've got a LOT to talk about, so look forward to it. i especially look forward to getting better at video editing and recording, and i've already learned a lot.
i also publish a webcomic regularly, and you can check out all my links at linktr.ee/brendan_pett. also, consider supporting me on patreon: patreon.com/bumblebeebowties-- i plan on rolling out videos early for patrons, and some tiers get pretty regular status updates on my projects.
thanks again! ciao.
I almost shat myself seeing you only have 500 subscribers. This is an amazing video! I also checked out your Tumblr and your art all looks really interesting as well. I can't explain it but it really reminds me of Toby Fox's art. I can't explain my vision but it's there.
I'm just gonna reply then reply with my thoughts (when I re-visit watch it again)
@@cultofmel that's probably one of the best compliments i've ever received lol, thank you!
love the video, hey btw, what is the noise you used in the "Brendan Pett" part at the start? i swear i've heard it before or something very similar.
@@legofishjpeg i used a program i found that converts text to animalese from animal crossing =^)
thanks for enjoying the video ^^
all i can think of every single time i see a glow squid ink recipe is "this should have been glowstone dust"
Or should be able to synthesize with glowstone. Or let glowsquids be a more easily accessed renewable glowstone source than witches. Or....something.
Liquid glowstone?
@@Sunshoop suddenly thermal expansion materials
@@fractalgem never played around too much with that mod lol. But liquid glowstone kinda is the only way I'd somehow mske glowstone replace glow ink sacs make sense- but i think it'd require some weird process maybe involving the cauldron or brewing station and glowstone dust. Unless there's a item that gets applied to the things beforehand and then the glowstone can be plopped on with a more glittery look cause i feel like glowstone would have that sort of look- glittery glow on stuff sounds fun
That’s what I’ve been saying
It used to be in their official guidelines that features needed to have multiple uses. Don't know what happened with that.
Jeb must have misread out of his stupid green book that "one block at a time" rule and gotten the two confused.
It being sold?
No guys you see copper DOES have multiple uses!
Building blocks, building blocks, building blocks, building blocks
*counts one crafting recipe*
*counts two crafting recipes*
"Alright, that should be enough"
Rabbits being a little over 10 years old hit me for waaaaaaay more psychic damage than I was ready for.
Same
Its over
I'm assuming you aren't a bug, ghost, or dark/meam person.
yeah like i saw elytras as "new" before i realized that they've been in the game longer than they haven't been. really messed w my head
@arijeanz Oh no, here we go again ^^;
Have you noticed how Mojang didn't add a new food type dropped by mobs in the last 10 years? It's like they believe goats and frogs are unedible
They know very well that they SHOULD have drops but will never give any real life mobs a useful drop ever since around microsoft bought it out. Notice how goats dont actually drop goat horns on death despite it making sense, same with armadillos? It's a policy at this point to never make killing animals useful anymore. Which i personally find kind of stupid when killing animals could have a use but it could just be more useful to not kill them.. the sheep already did this, but microsoft is scared that people will carve armadillo skin for real life dog armor i guess
Damn i had to look that up to believe it. But yeah it's true! On top of that, they haven't added any non-vegetarian food item drops either since rabbits and changing sheep so that they drop mutton a little less than 10 years ago other than making fish actually spawn as entities (which were already a thing with fishing, they just made it more realistic), hoglins dropping porkchops and some new zombie variants dropping rotten flesh (which don't really count because they are hostile so i guess killing them is morally justified)
They think they are PETA lmao
wait goats dont drop mutton?
@@runkelpokk9 nope
I've heard modern Minecraft called "as wide as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle"
They add new features, but they refuse to give older ones new uses. They focus on implementing new items for the sake of adding more content, even if it isn't good content.
Stuff like dog armour could just as readily be made with metal or leather. They just needed to give armadillos a purpose. The brush uses copper. Any metal could be used instead. They just needed to give copper a use, same with the spyglass.
They add more and more one-use items to draw players back in because "new item!!"
I can forgive the armadillo, as the wolf armor was buffed enough to make it valuable. It adds value to finding these mobs in generally unexplored terrain like savannahs and mesas. But the copper and amethyst examples are very egregious. Copper should have uses that matter. If copper was useful, people wouldn't mind that it's used in the brush exclusively anyways because they would have gathered plenty. The clocks an age old example of this. Gold being used for it is arbitrary, it was to give gold more purpose. But gold is fairly useful nowadays. Copper just doesn't have that same factor outside of decoration and a few cheap uses.
Armadillos could have been added, if they had more than one use. If they made dog armor craftable with leather and iron, it would be lame and uninteresting obtaining it as people already have an abundance of those two resources.
If armadillos/armadillo scutes were given more useful uses, it would be a good feature. Same reason why I love the addition of bees, they have so many small but occasionally very useful applications that makes the bees great.
It sucks how little mojang cares about quality updates, and instead only releases these low effort updates to attract more players to the game. Not because they want to make the game better.
@@pourplecat Maybe Studded Armor that ricochets Projectiles sometimes? Would need to be a cooldown on brushing armadillos though since there wouldn't be much incentive just to brush an armadillo for like a stack and never interacting with them again
@EmeraldCrowz Yeah, there are many cool ideas that people would also love, just making it used in useful crafting recipes can make an item better aswell
I like copper blocks because they look good in builds and since this game is like canvas more colours means more capacity to be creative
Another thing that bothers me is how mojang acts like they're PETA, if Pigs and Cows were added now Mojang would make it so killing them drops nothing, and you'd need to read them a bedtime story for them to give you meat
It’s much more complicated than that. Every single interaction you have with mobs shouldn’t be killing them. It’s far more interesting to have mobs that the player interacts with in unique ways, such as making an enclosure for them and breeding them, or taking them along as a companion, or hatching their eggs and collecting the seeds they dig up.
I think they did it pretty well with sheep. If you go out of your way to interact with the systems you get upwards of triple the reward, but if you feel like just doing the easy thing and killing the animal you get less wool@@BigMastah79
@@BigMastah79there are ways to do that. You could make it where there’s manure when you breed cattle that then acts as a lesser version of bone meal. It’s an early game bone meal alternative and gives new purpose for animal breeding.
Another example would sheering feathers off of chickens, chickens and ducks naturally shed their feathers over time.
You could make colored feathers from parrots. For a cool cosmetic item or even better a functional item.
Another cool thing would be shaving polar bear hair for their hair. Then craft it into its own kind of armor that could also be combined with iron to make it reinforced.
Add snails so you can then cook them. Add new food items to feed specific animals. Adding complex mechanics will make the game more long lasting. I can just breed sheep and cattle with wheat which I can make a farm for, use the seeds for breeding chickens, craft hay bales for llamas. That’s breeding 4 animals with just one plant.
Adding more uses to animals will give us more incentive to not kill them. But most players kill cows anyways so why not give more crafting recipes to leather.
They aren’t scared of innovative animals, they are scared how a specific small niche group of activists will react to their updates
@@IamPotion Horrible ideas btw.
(This part is an edit: Yes I was rude for saying this. I provide context and explanation of my criticism later on in the thread.)
@@BigMastah79 okay? I was thinking on the spot so don’t expect anything I guess? Weird how you say it’s bad without elaborating anything. Shows a lack of critical thinking.
Minecraft nowadays feels like you added like 30 different vanilla+ mods that don't interact with eachother and the modpack creator just swapped some stuff around in recipes for the sake of fucking with you without actually making them properly interact, except without any of the cool shit added to any vanilla+ mod ever and stuff everyone's wanted for years.
And a vanilla.plus pack like that would prolly at least have decent backpacks rather than just crappy bundles.
This is just flat out wrong lmfao.
ngl agree
1.21: added the breeze
kill for breeze rod
breeze rod is used only to make new weapon, a new mobility item, and a new potion almost entirely useless except for the trial chambers to make them harder
@@OnePoundBird Ugh the Breeze Rod is only used for a unique weapon, a versatile mobility item, and a kinda niche effect, SOOOO USELESSSS
@@BigMastah79your talking about one specific good mob from the update that has some good uses drops with uses let’s look at some other updates. How about the sniffer, this mob can only be obtained in a super specific way and once the player has acquired it, it’s only use is to give 2 flowers.
One thing that really bugged me since the Ancient Cities came out was the recovery compass. It kind of felt like they just put it in there for the sake of being an exclusive item.
Like if you really think about it you're putting a death locater in an endgame structure that is built for skilled players who don't really die that much. But wouldn't it be better for newer players to use because they would be dying more often?
The problem is people who are able to go to ancient cities don't need the compass and the people who can't go need it, but they can't get it.
Makes zero sense
Yeah because if you beat the scary impossible 😨 challenge of holding shift and placing wool you’re clearly the most skilled mc player every, and you’ll NEVER die and not know where your items are ever. Also endgame lock the ancient city too cuz it’s impossible.
@@rougeolive1120 i have mentioned this before in other places but the warden is barely a threat. even if you end up spawning him, you can run away while he's doing his spawning animation, and then he'll just walk around like an idiot for a minute and leave. once you learn his gimmick, you have to go out of your way to attack the warden for him to be a problem.
it makes me dread going to the ancient city. not for the intended reason, mind you, but because it gets annoying after the third time he spawns.
"putting a death locater in an endgame structure"
I don't understand why people call Ancient Cities an end game structure, when you just need a few stacks of wool, shears and an at least iron hoe, maybe torches and a pickaxe, just in case. That's early-to-mid game...
Yes, it might be hard to find it and get there through caves, so you probably need a set of iron armor (which you can confidently store at your base near the City) and it would be easier to explore the City with night vision potions, but that would be just mid game.
@vasilyd8578 you can get netherite in 15 seconds with the right seed, but I wouldn't say it's an early game resource. The ancient city is intended by the developers to be pretty late game, otherwise they wouldn't give out diamond leggings and notch apples like candy.
@@CockroachTheFoul hmmm, you have a point, but if you've got to the deepslate levels (and went to the Nether Fortress for blaze rods for potions), you probably should already start to transition from iron to diamond gear, but yet not fully enchanted, which I consider mid game. Also the City is still risky area, you may go there naked, but you still can lose all the loot you've got and gear you prepared.
Bro this is so true they literally add stuff for one specific purpose nowadays same with mobs its like they need to have one purpose
I’m cool with things having single uses, but I feel like there are to many items with one use now.
It's dumb.
It’s like they have a set formula for the new mobs: What do they drop, what ‘interesting’ feature do they show, and where do they spawn. Nothing else. One of my favorite updates is(here me out) the bee update. They just fit so well with everything else. The bees have complex rather than flashy behavior. It comes with a vehicle that spawns on pre-existing trees rather than a new structure. It also gave a new function to the fireplace and flowers.
The sniffer has two purposes
Sniffing up useless plant 1 and sniffing up useless plant 2
Some things dont even have a purpose
The autocrafter was a rare moment when they added something that integrates overall.
Redstone I feel is the simplest and most straightforward way to making multi-purpose things. The ability for automating things tends to be that way in games.
It annoys the crap out of me how long they took to release it
then they nerfed it
@@tomaszpawlik5091 How'd they nerf it?
Adding advanced or block-based components would make everyone go CRAZY.
Literally any new redstone component would be nice. Instead they fix the (harmless) bugs that redstone depends on.
And then they made the crafting recipe use Iron instead of Copper, it's absurd.
Something I've noticed as I recently started playing again with friends is that the "core" of minecraft is basically unchanged and all these one use items/mobs are basically non existing unless you go looking for them. Turtles? Armadillos? Sniffer? Rabbits? Dolphins? Frogs? All useless unless I need a specific thing from them.
They add variants of hostile mobs you'll never see like the stray, bog, husk. Drowns are common only because water is common and nothing else hostile spawns in water.
There is so much potential for interconnected interaction but I think they are scared of changing the "core" of what made minecraft popular.
I think you really hit the "core" of it. The people running minecraft are sitting on the aftermath of a lightning in a bottle scenario, and they're naturally trying to ride it for everything its worth, but without having a clue what made it work in the first place. So, rather than risk alienating their existing fanbase by making changes to the existing game, they are essentially doing the minimum amount of work required to maintain the interest of their already enormous audience. Which, from a monetary perspective, is a saddeningly prudent decision.
@@lightarchives5025 isint the core of minecraft minning crafting and building
@@dynamitewolft4194I think they’re talking about the game from the perspective of someone trying to beat the game. The nether update was the only update in a while that really impacts that
@@HuneeBruh There's also the different ways to play of building, pvp and redstone, wich are pretty core parts of the game, and the same argument applies here as well. Like the only thing any of the new mobs change is pvp with turtle potions and the mace.
i really enjoy the biome variants of zombies and skeletons and think every biome should have them, sure they are just reskins but make each biome feel a bit more unique and they mostly drop the same stuff as the normal variants
every new item using exclusively materials that happened to be added in the same update
Tiny counterargument against this is just that it’d weird if you couldn’t craft anything in a new update with the new stuff.
@@alphabros5226then make the updates less shit to begin with and problem solved 👍
@@meat3958 Wow that's a really insightful comment then. Pray tell how could the updates not be bad in your opinion? Cause I feel like you'd be the type of person to complain either way.
@@alphabros5226 Already explained to you in my original comment. You should probably read that 👍
@@meat3958 How about you explain in a way that makes it seem like you can articulate above a 9th grade level
Mojang is adding too much stuff. They are making a shallow, bland, ocean of features, but a deep, interesting, lake will always be better. SO much "eh" features no one will ever experience. Instead of adding more uses to diamonds, gold, lapis, leather, paper, plants, stone, obsidian, combining food items, and emeralds, Mojang makes NEW items specifically for new features. 5 useful items are better than 10 useless ones. They already follow a Quality-over-Quantity style update schedule, and at this point, we ALREADY have more than enough quantity. It's time Mojang focuses on the quality of preexisting features.
I think the tricky trials update was a step in the right direction in that regard, isnatead of a bunch of random shallow stuff added like in 1.20 they focused on that structure, the blocks, items and mobs you can find there, expanding on previous features like copper, tuff, banner patterns and decorated pots, and giving more love to underused mobs like the stray and husk. It makes me think how 1.19 could have been way better if they focused only on the deep dark or the nature aspect, instead of doing a 50/50 and making both feel incomplete
"They already follow a quality over quantity style" hehehe, it's more like: mediocre over quantity, they add very few updates that have nothing of value.
@@inexistentenouniverso9230 You 100% would have not survived the early beta updates.
I just figured out why most recent updates put a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. It's because this reminds me of the days when I actively followed and played the sims 4. *Thankfully* mojang doesn't make every new collection of items cost between 10 and 40 bucks like EA does, but it's still the same problem that generally makes the game feel more cluttered and less enjoyable.
As far as adding new blocks goes, I think it's fine and helps everyone. The issue is the way the crafting system today has a bunch of dead ends from these essentially orphaned game systems.
We got:
- Pandas
- Bamboo
- Copper abundance
- Rabbits
- Bees (we still like those flying cubes)
- Amethyst
- Copper abundance
- Rolly boys for dog armor
- Turtles and single turtle helmet
- Copper abundance
- Copper abundance
- Copper abundance
For god's sake, make copper used in vanilla redstone constraptions! Make it useful for tools! Make it useful anywhere besides a couple of blocks.
I think maybe rails should be crafted with copper and powered rails with redstone
and maybe the clock could be crafted with copper and also the crafter should be copper
that would give copper good uses
@@donutstudios6353Replacing iron for copper for the basic rails and crafter is a good idea but keep powered rails the same and instead add new ones affected by oxidation.
@@yassifieddino1792 yeah that makes sense
@@yassifieddino1792 imagine how many wax you'd need to get to prevent oxidation of the whole railway system which most likely will be abandoned after getting elytra and left only as decoration...
I understand that it can be automated, but that's still a chore and requires an iron farm too for shears, so, more exploitation of bees and villagers.
EDIT: And if you have to make an iron farm anyway, why do you need copper rails in the first place?
they need to make emeralds more useful too
The worst part is, there's so much room to expand older features, but they never do ANYTHING with it. The number of single-use items/mobs in the game is staggering. :/
and wolves are still basically just a novelty. Minecraft wolves are probably older than like half this comment section
there'll still be significant community backlash everytime they do so though, keep in mind that there was a huge number of players who claimed that 1.14 "ruined villages" or that 1.16's nether "didn't feel minecraft enough"
@@Designed1 Yes, this is true. But meanwhile nobody was disappointed when they gave more uses for copper and tuff in 1.21. Adding more uses for items is easy and most people would be fine with it.
And even with bigger changes, imo Mojang should stop trying to please everyone. Them being too worried about changing things is what leaves features unchanged for over 10 years since they were first added.
If you try to please everyone, you please no one. The number of people who loved 1.14 and 1.16 greatly outnumbered the people who disliked it (as far as I can tell). And people with complain no matter what they do, so why worry about it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@lasercraft32 they can't stop worrying about pleasing everyone though. They answer to one of the largest tech corporations in the world and possess the rights to the best-selling game of all time. If they make a change that drives a buncha players away from Minecraft, Microsoft will likely get pissy at them.
You can say things about the occasional useless item and underexplored mob, but literally every single update from 1.13-1.19 was expanding older features like the oceans, the Nether, world generation, caves, villages etc. People need to learn to see that they got exactly what they wanted and be happy about it.
Minecraft has been in the process of stopping being a game and starting to be an "update simulator". They didn't add Armadillos to incentivise exploration. They added them because they thought it'd sell more copies and get people interested in the update. Along with the other vote mobs, and all the features.
They no longer thank about how something will fit in the games ecosystem, they just think about what gets players excited. That's what I mean when I've said before that players don't always know what they want. Everyone wants cool interesting features but it's not the players job to figure out how it'll fit, it's the designers. And they haven't been doing that well for many years
i'd like to give mojang more credit than this, honestly, because i do genuinely believe that the folks there are interested in providing new and unique updates, but i feel like something is holding them back and its not their intentions--it could be their microsoft masters, perhaps, or maybe it's complications in the development process that are more complicated than they let on and don't want to explain. i know they're doing a lot of work under the hood, though, to integrate new features that allow data pack creators to manipulate the game much more, so maybe all that extra work does it?
not really sure, but either way, i definitely feel like they're missing some direction. the updates feel aimless.
@@bumblebeebowties As Mr Krabs once (or twice) said: "I LIKE MONEY!" - there you got your something.
@@bumblebeebowtiesFrom multiple reports from Mojang Employees I've seen this isn't TheBigBad making the poor innocent Mojang do money gluttonous things, Mojang did it on their own because their company grew in size
@@bumblebeebowtiesI heard something about an update plan for the next 50 years, if they want to be updating things that long they are holding things up for years. That would suck for the game
I want to say that there's no way they need to promote Minecraft, the top selling computer game in history, and that adding some rando endangered mob isn't going to push copies.
But considering almost every Minecraft spin off game shuts down, maybe Minecraft is bleeding money for Microsoft, but they're pumping money into it for the IP/data rights.
Idk why they refuse to make bundles take more than 1 unstackable item, it's like. That enchanted book is what's clogging my inventory NOT some flowers.
do you really have that many enchanted books in inventory until getting a shulker?
I think bundles are fine as is. They can get rid of smaller item clog like maybe 3 stray seeds and a few other one off blocks or items that stack. I do think enchanted books would cause abit of an issue- would it be able to keep that enchantment data? I feel like that'd be a new messy system
bundles are great for mining, if you have a bunch of raw ores you can compact them into blocks and put them into bundles to save a lot of space
@@BonziBUDDY or just a few junk blocks you had to break along the way to get the ore
@@derevianne1108 yes.
That point about randomly generated "structure biomes" not needing to have some unique purpose is actually really refreshing. Having more of a reason to build outpost structures and maybe even connecting transportation would vastly improve the game without needing several niche mechanics to also be added.
I love the hypocrisy in “we can’t figure out how to make bundles work on console” despite the fact that the added emotes are useless and waste a button and that the pick block function isn’t even binded to anything by default
Even worse, they cant get them to work on MOBILE
Afaik, due to the nature of mobile controls
Which makes sense, but that literally didnt stop previous features from making it to the other versions (like the nether for instance, pocket edition had its whole own other system for that!)
i don't disagree on emotes not having a gameplay use, but these are two unrelated issues. not hypocrisy.
@@aperson558a voice of reason ❤️
Imagine being a multimillion company with lots of employees and not being able to fix one design problem lol
@@theanimatronicgamerreturn7785 ??? Bundles have many issues aside from getting them to work on Bedrock, and it’s not like they’ve only been working on Bundles lol, they’ve done work on a lot of other features.
yes i feel like minecraft has so much potential to expand on what’s already in the game however whenever they spend so long for minor additions that barely interact with the game im left disappointed
Modern Minecraft feels more like modded Minecraft, than modded Minecraft - as in how disconnected and overall pointless everything feels.
@@m0fn668you're indirectly saying that minecraft isn't minecrafty anymore which is bs
There should be additions to core elements like adding extra rooms to structures, adding ambience, changing combat, etc
What they add is cool to play around with for a bit, but never makes a meaningful impact (however 1.21 was a good update, more so talking 1.20/1.19)
@@t00nedd00dThey literally changed pre-existing structures in 1.20 for archaeology
@@sboy2044 Yeah but they could've went further with it y'know
Honestly i think whats happening here is that vanilla minecraft is, by any real account, a finished game. The thing is, mojang knows that if they stop updating the game, people will stop talking about it and it loses relavence. So instead they opt walk the tight rope of adding enough to call it an "update" without adding too much and killing their metaphorical "golden goose"
Just because its "finished" doesnt mean it cant be expanded and improved though
Survival minecraft def has a lot of issues with difficulty, exploration, grinding etc. that can be improved by adding new features or improving already existing ones
I get that they have to be careful with the games identity and image, they can't just vomit out new content and add 10 dragons, but what they have been doing recently amounts to basically nothing
What incentive do players even have to update their game after caves and cliffs in terms of actual content? The only reason I have to update my client is compatibility with my friends and servers. If I could, I would just stay on 1.19 or even 1.18 to avoid the hassle of updating my client and all my mods
Imagine youre a mod maker, you have to painfully update all the junk you made to a new version because mojang decided to add PENGUINS and MONKEYS (they do nothing)
Sorry for the essay
the updates are so ass that it's hard to believe they arent intentionally sabotaging themselves. mojang likes to claim that they are very careful with what they add to the game so as to not ruin it and that everything goes through rigorous quality control yet the mfs cant add a dirt slab to the game. the easiest, lowest hanging fruit feature that everyone will appreciate. that simple, a fawking dirt/grass slab. instead heres 10 new animals that do nothing. wow, such polish, many quality feature. stone cutters, that were added back in 2019, have been revolutionary for builders. nothing as good since.
@hotelhotelhotel no you definitely brought up a good point with mods/modmaker issues, I hasn't thought about that. My point is that their best case senario is one where they add nothing but people still talk about (and play) their game, so most of the "updates" are really just excuses to do PR cycles and generate hype and discussion about Minecraft
@clintshidwood4511 I've honestly had this discussion with more people than I'd like to admit, and the sentiment is pretty common. "If Mojang just added ____, the game would be so much better and everyone would appreciate it" Thing is, that blank space is filled with a different thing for each person. Sometimes, it's contradictory. It's always more difficult to implement than they originally imply. For example, lets go with your dirt/grass slabs. First, you would have to update the grass spreading mechanic to handle it. Fine, simple enough. Next you would have to consider how it interacts with mobs. Can sheep eat it? They definitely should. Also all passive mobs spawn on grass, should they also be able to spawn on the slabs? Idk. There would probably be people who would prefer it either way. Probably would be best to do some QC on that. Finally, the big one: since dirt is a natural block, do these slabs generate naturally? If so, they would need to completely revamp world generation, mob spawning, and movement mechanics to compensate for it. If not, people would probably complain about how it is unrealistic and the devs are just being lazy.
That all being said, I do think mojang has a rationality behind the lackluster updates. Its just not what fans want to hear.
@@clintshidwood4511 Dont want dirt slabs
youre so right, minecarts are useless, horses are useless, boat are useless, because they added the elytra instead of expanding it. Redstone is one of the only systems in the game that was ever expanded on
Elytra is endgame tho
@@sboy2044i can understand this argument for horses and boats, but minecarts should be expanded to match the speed of an elytra to give them some use. minecarts should be used for the same distances you need to travel constantly, while elytra should be used for exploration/basic movement.
here’s my suggestion:
horses/boats are early game
minecarts are speed
elytras are manouverability/not being on the ground
@@sboy2044 you can reach the endgame in less than 1h which defeats the point of doing anything with horses, boats or minecarts
I think of minecarts as the only automated way to travel long distances enabling you to do something IRL instead of constantly doing angle adjustments and launching fireworks, which gets boring when you have to travel between same locations over and over again. Boats are great for early game travel and elytras are endgame for most of the players. In my opinion the only way of transportation that needs buffing is by horses as they are to big for comfortable travel in the forest, they can't traverse water quickly, saddle cannot be crafted and they are simply to slow for the effort
Last time I started a new Playthrough I didn't even know armadillos were in the game, but when I stumbled across them on a whim, I didn't even get off my horse to check them out, because I already knew they weren't going to do anything cool. Killing them wouldn't drop any cool items, since Mojang doesn't want there to be an incentive to kill cute and exotic creatures. So I just sort of kept going.
It gets pretty predictable.
Why not surprise us by making armadillos aggressive assholes that roll at you like sonic the hedgehog? And killing them drops something cool. At least that would be unexpected.
they're too afraid to make hostile mobs that are real life animals
@@BonziBUDDYBecause we all know animals in real life are all super friendly as well. 😅 I bet if they ever added scorpions or snakes to the game, they would be friendly and cuddly too. 😂
Also, what about the spiders? Those are real animals, except they are huge in minecraft. Maybe they can make the armadillos huge too. :P
First time I saw an in-game armadillo it freaked me out and I had to stare at the mysterious moving block for a second.
Crazy how quick the hype died for me.
I mean goats already do that
the nether update introduced a bunch of new flora, the nether grasses and stuff, but they just drop themselves, even though something like that should probably be dropped when used with shears. they clog up the inventory so easily
oh, i have a funny story involving this one: see, they did actually fix it to make them require shears for a brief moment in time, but... Technical Players whined about how it ruined their new bone meal farms that utilized automatically breaking the nether roots with pistons. so then, mojang reverted the change. i think sometimes the technical community does some... bad things for the experience of the game for others. Sometimes(TM)
and you can't even put them in pots😭
@@CreativelyJakei don't think they should've reverted it. Honestly- crafting shears isn't hard. They can just- harvest it themselves or do a flower farm cause those drop themselves and are just as easy to compost
@@CreativelyJake oh abosolutely, the technical players play the game in a way that is completely foreign to your average player. (which is fine) but their desires should not superceed the actual game experience.
@@Sunshoop also shears can be used in dispensers, so they are just complaining htat their contraptions would have to be *slightly* more complex
All my gameplay with everyone ever always goes like like:
Friend: "cool what's this can I bring it back? "
Me: "Oh that's [itemname] it's useless, leave it."
Literally could not afford bringing back junk with the cartoonishly small inventory space Mojang forces us to play with. All the adventuring were doing is looking for all the gameplay progressing stuff that Notch added all so long ago. Jeb just doesn't know how to advance Minecraft in a meaningful and rewarding way. If anything the new updates punishes you for exploring.
There I used Minecraft for "venting"
I wouldn't be mad if 1.22 was just adding features to already existing aspects to the game
Im still mad rotten flesh cant be used in composting. Cuz it makes sense, why would i wanna feed my wolf rotten flesh.
Cookies kill parrots for education on real life issues with people who feed birds dangerous stuff. By that logic I am free to feed dogs rotten leftovers whenever I please, since minecraft deems it perfectly okay to do so. They have no fking clue what they want the game to be...
?? Composting meat/animal products are very much not desired to be put in compost. It in fact does not make sense
@@pourplecat Eggshells go in compost.
@@pourplecat Eggshells are animal product.
@@raspiankiado Besides eggshells
Sounds like the usual grasping for relevance you see in multiplayer games and even tabletop RPGs. Developers add a bloat of new stuff to keep players interested, until it becomes an unweildy mess--then it is time for the new replacement/version/edition.
Old School Minecraft
It arguably isn't even working. Half of the community thinks there aren't enough features each update and the other half flirts with beta 1.7.3
Notch's original vision for Minecraft was a fantasy sandbox RPG, similar to what Terraria is today. And microsoft has turned it into a pseudo educational bloated mess of busywork that hasn't had any major progression updates since 2012.
Netherite?
notch sure does have a vision for the world
I think something could be said for tiered items.
Like...
What if a weaker Spyglass could be made from Copper and Glass(the easier to obtain items)
Which could be upgraded with Amethyst and Gold.
Rabbit Hide is a weird one to me, because it is harder to get than cows leather, and is also far less useful.
@@MrTrubbol it's true, why not having spyglass be upgraded with gold and amethyst? Minecraft had a system based on upgrading your tools since the beginning, why not do that with the spyglass? There's already a smithing table on the game!!!
@@MrTrubbol Also the rabbit hide is a weird one, it should have more unique uses other than being a worst hard to get leather.
Hey, that's not a bad idea
@@inexistentenouniverso9230 The unfortunate question is "What could you make with Rabbit that you cannot make with normal leather?"
From where I am thinking, IRL rabbit pelts are typically used for their softer fur and finer, softer hides.
One thought I have is to use it as an armor upgrade, making it so all boots are treated as leather boots, when it comes to dealing with powdered snow.
I really want to see a Vanilla minus mod, one that removes the single use items and replaces them. Condenses Minecraft and gets rid of the bloat. But I don't even know if that's possible, to remove items or features with mods.
you can just change loottables and crafts, if rabbit skin or whatever doesnt drop and isnt used anywhere it might as well not exist
Yeah, you'd basically have it not show up in Survival / in World Gen. It'd likely still exist in the Creative Menu, but otherwise would be gone from the world.
Mojang lacks overarching design direction. Increasingly many things in updates past Notch leaving just feel kind of random.
"past Notch leaving" as if Notch didn't also add random stuff all the time too... 😅
Minecraft as a game lacks design direction inherently. Too many people with too many different playstyles all play the game and it is impossible to please all of them.
@@BigMastah79 It being impossible to please all is exactly why it needs design direction.
@@ZarHakkar what direction could possibly cover all playstyles other than something like the current one?
@@BigMastah79 The point isn't to cater to all playstyles, but to pick a direction and stick to it instead of spinning around adding features willy-nilly.
Iron is quite literally used for everything it’s a perfect example for what to do with shit
An Item I have issues with personally is glow ink sacs. We had glowstone dust for a really long time that could do anything they could. why not make "Glow Paste" Made from glowstone dust and slime balls OR just let us put ink sacs and glowstone dust in a crafting grid to make the current glow ink sac? That way we have an alternative way for people who either put a base in/near a swamp or for those who do redstone could get it that way without having to needlessly make a new farm or to sit for hours killing so you have enough for the foreseeable future.
Their habit of making things have one use is also why I'm upset with how the sniffer turned out, sure it has more than one plant but I thought it would add a ton of nice plants and that the torch flower would act as a more visually appealing torch for mob proofing the surface not just an expensive way to get orange dye. -_-
Whoa whoa whoa, lemme get this straight, you want MineCRAFT to add new items that are obtained by cleverly combining existing items via CRAFTING? That's just crazy-talk! /s
@@bobbob1876I was so disappointed with the Sniffer. That’s actually the mob I wanted, I thought it’d be really useful. Id have loved if it would give new prehistoric seeds and crops, that would only grow under certain circumstances that simulated the way they’d have grown in the past. In return, the crops give cool effects when crafted and brewed because they’re from a different time
glowstone emits light, glow ink sacs seem to be more of a glow-in-the-dark sort of thing
i do think the "glow paste" is a good idea though, slimeballs SEVERELY need a new use for non-redstoners
@@mangledfoxy2052 Discover ancient seeds and brand-new plants with the Sniffer!
Nobody in their right mind is going to go, "Wow! They are clearly saying the plants will be very useless!" unless they already have no hope in Mojang. False advertising. You just get dyes from them, and you can't even clone the 2-block high ones with bonemeal like you can with other 2-block flowers!
Slime balls + ink sac + glowstone is cool too, where the slime balls act as a binder.
Facts. They keep adding new items to craft stuff that could just be crafted with already existing items and your inventory cant keep up with the bloated additions. Armadillo scutes and turtle scutes is the perfect example.
Turtle Scutes are not a good example of this. They are the PINNACLE of an item you need to go out of your way to get
@@BigMastah79 i think he means the fact that TWO DIFFERENT scutes exist, and have TWO DIFFERENT purposes (its so fucking annoying)
@@vxzcvzop didn't even MENTION how easy they were to get there's just this one contrarian trying to defend the billion dollar corporation
@@BigMastah79They should have been consolidated regardless, not unlike saddles and horse saddles were.
@@BigMastah79 they could've make dog armor more durable and require less turtle scutes to repair it.
I do really wish they would take a step back and do some refactoring for the systems that already exist, instead of this focus on what new things they can add. I do think, however, some of the new things are big steps in the right direction and feel very positive about them (trial chambers and the new omen effects are very good). If just a little work went into better tying all the systems together, I think it would go a long way!
I wanna mention that sometimes when creators go to voice these concerns, they go about it in an overly negative or antagonistic way. It's nice that this video avoids that pitfall.
this is a good idea but, i dont think it'll ever happen. everything that mojang adds is inconsequential to the main core or the way that the average player plays the game. the trial chambers or whatever theure called are cool but it doesnt affect anything unless you go looking for them
@@legitnubtrial chambers made more sense to me when i was trading with a cartographer and i saw the monument map, mansion map, and then a trial chamber map. all 3 of those dont affect the gameplay of the average player but are still major structures that people seek out for their unique loot
The problem with the exploration theory is that the premier feature of the last update, the trial chamber, is absolutely everywhere, meaning that it's just a pain for people on older worlds who need to "explore" new chunks so they can find one of these. I don't understand Mojang. I think you're right, they just want players to generate new chunks.
That’s just a byproduct of having older worlds. It’s not their fault. You want them to not add new biomes or structures or something?
wanting old players to generate new chunks is entirely illogical
personally, when new structures and biomes arent added, you get something like 1.17, caves and cliffs part 1. you just find all the new stuff close to spawn or just make it at base, and then you have a handful of new kind of meaningless stuff
@@OnePoundBirdthe hell you want mojang to do? to spawn new features in the old chunks so that it would ruin existing builds?
@@OnePoundBirdcurious- do you have a better solution?
@@OnePoundBird Caves and cliffs was unique because it went below the old world height, your idea here only works if its altering a part of the world that was previously unalterable. Like a sky dungeon 2000 blocks in the air! - example
im sure it would receive a lot of backlash from the larger community, but i honestly feel like they should have at least a mini update focusing only on improving or fixing features currently in game.
if mojang is going to keep adding items with little use, the _least_ they could do is give us some kind of way to have a bigger inventory without having to go to the end. shulker boxes should not be the "singular solution to the storage problem" that they currently are, and while bundles are nice they certainly have their flaws (such as _not being obtainable,_ to name one)
Totally, the game is trying to encourage exploration right now but the only ways to upgrade your inventory are all locked away in the late game, and at that point theres really no incentive to explore when the best you're gonna get are some iron tools and blast protection I books
This is why I really don't like the mob votes. Not only is it responsible for many bloat features, but it also has the player base WANTING these bloat features in the form of "just add all 3". Imagine if the Great Hunger won the original mob vote, and instead of using a grind stone to disenchant items, you had to run all the way to where this one mob spawns and pray it doesn't eat your item.
As for a solution for the bloat problem, there just needs to be a culling of these features. There is never going to be a world where having two unique scutes, needing to use glow ink sacs instead of glow stone to light up signs, or needing a rabbit hide to make a bundle would make any sense. (it would also go hand in hand with a rebalancing update, which the game desperately needs) It would most definitely be an unpopular update, but a necessary one for the health of the game.
Agreed.
Just straight up agreed.
Mojang feels like they dont have a goal in mind with new updates and just "adds it because its cool"
I understand minecraft is a game and not a story, but Brandon Sanderson: "go deeper before you go wide"
Not to mention they could just rebalance old features to fit better in new progression.
Gold tools could be buffed.
We got golden armour "buff" in form of piglin trade. And we could have more.
I personally would for example make polar bears much more dangerous (they are after all biggest land predator on earth)
But in doing so they could also be made territorial, attacking both players and monster.
Having polar bears like that could give them use in grinders or just as local area denial.
This feature requires no new items, drops or mechanics. Everything is already in game. Just make them stronger, and make them hunt Everything thats alive.
And thats just a single idea
To me the funniest part about all of this is when they addressed the people saying that all 3 mobs should be added, they basically said: oh, it's so hard, they need to have a use, they need to fit the ecosystem, we need to make sure they offer something unique and interesting. That's funny to me because the things they add don't really do any of that.
They have a useless use.
They're so small they don't make a difference in the ecosystem of the game.
They don't offer anything interesting to the game.
And finally, they're not hard to put in the game.
i feel like the last few updates should have taken just 1 year to make all of them, the community adds every ideia they have before them, and although they need to have the ideia from the ground, it really doesn't take that much time, i saw mods improving the game in so many ways mojang should, and none of them took years of development. Idk, maybe there's something wrong with mojang, maybe there's someone forcing them to do these minimal effort updates, someone like Microsoft.
I’ve 100% noticed this in recent years. There is a lot of potential for improvement but they simply aren’t doing that. The worst offenders are the armor trims. People like them, sure, but the problem is they are actually locked to only being an armor trim. There could never be another use for them because that simply is not what they are for. They take up inventory space as they can’t stack, and you usually won’t need more than a few. A better idea might be to make armor trims function similar to how banner patterns are made. Maybe with a new workbench that required specific, already existing items, in order to put a new look on your armor.
Mojang also just needs to make everything more interconnected
Imagine if the trims changed the stats of the armours, how cool would be that (maybe increase toughness but reduce agility, give more speed or swimming but reducing armor points, increase fire resistance but lower resistance to other damages and so on and so on)
The old problem Warframe suffered from and still does.
They add stuff that is cool, then they feel bad about it not being special or useful enough just by being there, then they make it drop or craft something that other stuff could’ve, like needing copper and amethyst for a spyglass instead of gold or iron and glass, or making dog armor out of only armadillo scutes and not turtle scutes, or how they changed elytra repair to needing phantom membrane instead of how it used to require leather, or when they just made it so you need lapis for some reason when enchanting even though you didn’t need it before and it was originally just added as a cool building/decoration block you could make.
I mean, the elytra is essentially magic and SHOULD be difficult to repair, so needing phantom membrane (a bit of a challenge to acquire) makes sense. I just wish phantoms were done differently, and/or that the membranes had more uses.
i think the spyglass being made with copper is fine tbh, but i never really questioned why glass just wasnt part of the recipe until now. what the hell were they thinking
I was talking things out with someone, and we thought of another use for Amethyst!
Putting four Amethyst into a crafting table creates a 'Cut Amethyst' that when put into a smithing table with equipment or armor, will create a "Jeweled" version of that item.
A jeweled item will have a higher enchant-ability than the normal version of the item, giving it a higher chance of better enchantments on the table.
billions must watch
ew
They added craftable chains, and STILL didn't bother to make chainmail craftable
Dang it, i just realized how arbitrary chainmail not being craftable is
It really should be craftable with *something* at the very least
Amethyst: Spyglass and tinted glass. *Could have used glass.*
Turtle: Turtle helmet. *Potions of water breathing are easier and better.*
Armadillo: Dog armor. *Could have used any material.*
Sniffer: 2 plants. *Literally useless.*
Glow squid: Glowing text and item frames. *Only useful for map makers and SMP players.*
Phantoms: Repair Elytra and slow falling. *Mending and water buckets: allow us to introduce ourselves.*
Sniffer could've had the plants emit light. There's no reason the Torchflower doesn't. Or even had unique particles for the Moonflower thingy. Sure it's "useless" but you have to seek out sniffers anyways so I could live with it.
Phantoms is it's own issue. Membrane could stand to have more uses though I agree.
Glowing signs and item frames could also just use glowstone dust.
@@vinsplayer2634 Very true. But I don't feel like Glowstone is that useless so at least it justifies the glow squids I guess.
Tinted Glass DOES use glass though...
@@EmeraldCrowz They could easily implement more Sniffer plants in future updates, but knowing Mojang, I don't think they will. :(
I love this video. Mojang never adds more features to build on top of previously existing content. They would simply rather add a whole new concept to their game that has only one use and one use only to appease the audience like it’s a pair of shiny keys that do nothing. The leather example you gave is perfect. Instead of building on top of leather and giving it more recipes, Mojang adds 3 other variations that genuinely do jackshit.
To answer the question “why haven’t you played in a long time,” my issue isn’t just the inventory, but mainly the lack of easy-to-find content from updates. Take the newest update, where outside of the new underground structure you’re recommended to buy a map to find, you really don’t have anything to look forward to. As Minecraft keeps updating, it feels impossible to experience new updates due to how “random” these structures can feel at times
i love modded minecraft so much sometimes i watch videos on vanilla and think "wheres the mods? what the hell is this? wheres tinkers construct?"
Yeah, 1.12 with mods is what I like to play.
Well, mods are literally what the community wants. I haven't played on tinker for a long time though, I still need to get around to that foundry and anvil they have now.
I feel like Terraria handles this pretty well. Nearly every item has more than one use, be it functionally, aesthetically, or as a resource. Few items feel unnecessary. Players are incentivized to build in various places due to NPC needs and consequent resource availability.
Hard disagree. The only metal that retains any use through progression is Iron. Weapons, armor, and accessories become completely obsolete at the drop of a hat, and either clog your inventory while you wait for their one crafting upgrade or get sold.
Multiple bases was shoehorned in in a very late update. Is it interesting? Sure. Don't forget the years and years of minimum viable structures and space stations, though.
Terraria's various building materials are roughly on par with Minecraft's.
@@auraguard0212 i dont think it's as bad as in minecraft. Terraria is more about "0.2% weapon drop from a very specific mob that becomes obsolete after like the first boss or the first hardmode boss" problem
dont diss on my goat chorus fruit and honey bottle 😤 one can save you from a deadly fall or from the void/a lava pit, and the other gives insane saturation
i hate mining now, the caves are so huge and with 17 different blocks filling my inventory and more variety in blocks and whatever items than actual resources, i just feel like im wasting my time if i ever mine early game, and i just stop playing, its just- ugh.
Yes exactly! Especially the caves to me are the worst, i love the spaghetti caves, why did they make it so there are enormous caverns literally everywhere and the few connecting tunnels that exist are annoying to walk through
I don't really agree, I love the expansive caves. Clogging inventory is a problem, I solve it by, get this, _not mining them._
It also got solved by the ores giving raw resource (that is compressable) from both stone and deepslate ore versions.
If there is one cave I hate though it's that slanted slice cave, even my 2x2 mining staircase is easier to walk through.
@@nati0598I absolutely agree with you
I love the caves, I love exploring in them
I hate having to be selective about what I mine
And I absolutely *despise* having to inventory manage every littke while.
I have started playing Minecraft around 1.14, and for me, 1.16.5 is the best version - solely because of the nether update. However, even back then, it felt like Minecraft had an overwhelming amount of items, crafting recipes, and so, so much to offer. Updates since then have felt... lacking (except for build height and improved world gen). It's always the same: disappointing mob votes, items that serve no further purpose other than "building block and decorations", all atop the controversial changes to the handling of servers, in-game chats, Bedrock (modding and hardcore), etc. Idk it just seems so lifeless and corporate these days.
The polar beara were but the tip of the iceberg of dubious decisions.
Didn't we all say this would happen after Microsoft bought Mojang? But that got replaced by an attitude of "Oh wait, they're actually not ruining the game?"
Then we fast forward to today, and "Whoops! Spoke too son, megacorps still poison everything they touch, as always..."
@@boxcarz Thor (piratesoftware) once said, and I don't remember the exact words, something about the implementation of new features. Like I know there are a few programs out there that make it super simple for even beginners to make their own items and mobs, adding one doesn't take long at all. So why does it take Mojang so long? It shouldn't. Honestly the modding community is the sole reason I'm still playing Minecraft
It’s because of parity between the 2 versions. Also I think that guys an ass.
@@lyrics_m_sic they say it's because any idea they bring up must not harm any group of people that play the game a certant way, and must be implemented in the exact same time and has the same quality for all bedrock versions (mobile, consoles, switch....)
Theres a chance that mojang is doing this to make updates look more full, imagine how much the community would whine if the armadillo dropped nothing.
If so, it Seems like a bandaid over the "polar bear problem".
well no one would whine about it, because if the people figured out it dropped nothing it wouldnt have even been voted. but far enough point
Game didnt need armadillos. Game needs end update
People voted to get armor for dogs, they didn't vote to get armadillos for their own sake.
Something that could kinda fix some of this stuff without removing things from the game would be to make some new and old items be interchangeable. For example, the cow hyde and the rabbit hyde being two versions of the same item with the same crafting recipes. Or the glow quid ink and glowstone being two ways of crafting anything that glows.
instead of being "one trick ponies", they would feel more like different methods of obtaining things that have the same purpose
Minecraft was originally inspired by Dwarf Fortress, and I feel Mojang should take a leaf from that game's update strategies. Specifically, they need a clear vision to work towards. Dwarf Fortress's objective is to create a fully-simulated world, and so every update builds off what's already there and is guided by clear purpose.
Minecraft needs something similar. Do they want to make a world that feels truly endless? Do they want to create a massive Terraria-style player progression path? Do they want to create a game with so many optional objectives, the player can make their own fun?
Right now, they bounce from objective to objective without settling, and it's creating this problem of interesting ideas that never go anywhere.
The problem with scutes is the exact opposite problem with Pandas and Slime Balls. Did you know that pandas occasionally make slime balls? No, because it's just a cool little bonus on an ambient mob. Pandas don't drop a unique thing that can only be acquired by doing some very specific and often tedious action on an already very rare mob.
No, it's the exact same problem
Pandas are completely useless
Armadillos are completely useless bar the single one feature they were shoehorned with to make them not a new panda
A feature that should have never been tied to armadillos, like for example horse armor. Which in my opinion ahould follow the same rules as dog armor. Regardless of what those rules are.
@@andresmartinezramos7513 Pandas aren't completely useless. You can get slime balls from them, albeit very rarely. My point being that even though they're not the most useful they don't have anything that's unique to them that arbitrarily justifies their existence.
I honestly dont know why mojang is so reluctant to give us backpacks to help the clutter crisis. Just a chest with leather for the recipie. It trades off the ability to wear chest armor (Similar to elytra) for more inventory. No backpackception or shulker stacking, just a simple item that is super easy to get that enables early adventure while getting resources for your final base spot that you are travelling to!
I am playing a steampunk modpack with upgradable backpacks, and its super awesome to go on a 4 hour journey in 1 direction, clearing out all the dungeons and structures, ores, etc. To come back to base with a massive haul and sort it. They even allow shulkers to be put in them in the mod, because at that late point in the game its mega project time and you'll need the space anyways!
I actually think that a good vanilla-style backpack would be literally a chest strapped with leather on your back. Just simply a chest model on your back, like donkeys or llamas have, although looking like an actual chest.
If they implemented it correctly, bundles would be exactly that. If you could take only specific items out of instead of items in order, the clutter problem would be helped a lot.
what I also don't like about the new item bloat and something that it seems like mojang would _want_ to have an interest for, is that it makes crafting recipes so much more confusing for beginners! At least now they've added the recipe book but it still is just good game design to make recipes intuitive, and the new items and crafting recipes are so desperate for their one trick pony item that it really hurts the crafting. Most of the older items are pretty intuitive enough that you could mess around for a second and take some guesses and probably get it or at least know the materials to get, where the modern recipes are downright silly with niche items you'd never think to use. Who on earth decided that a helmet that helps you breathe underwater was NOT going to be a scuba/diving helmet or anything, but would instead be made of turtle scales (???) that you do not obtain by killing or brushing turtles, but instead by breeding them and protecting their eggs for several real life days and waiting for the baby turtles to grow up. They're the only animal that drops items in this way. Wtf
this totally describes something that i've been thinking about but had trouble articulating for a while now
Ngl, I haven't genuinely interacted with any new mobs added since the piglins (1.16)
i think the idea for like armadillo scutes is that you do something different from leather collecting, so just killing tons of cows for leather doesnt give you tons of recipes for everything immediately
combining the idea of immovable blocks to encourage exploration, what if certain things can only be made with immovable blocks?
such as an abandoned lookout tower had a table to make spyglasses with copper and glass?
I feel like that would just push the one trick pony style into the structures, where you need it to craft an item.
It honestly bothers me how every item in a new update most of the time uses exclusively the new implementations in their crafting recipes
i really like the point of having multiple ways to access an item, thats something i really love about minecraft modpacks there are more ways to get iron dust forexample wich have their own benefits and disadvantages like tinkers smeltery garantueeing getting 2 ingots out of a ore but it consumes lava and isnt really cheap or thermals macerators wich also can give you 2 ingots plus a chance for byproduct but its much more expensive and requires a supply of rf
Something that in a crafting resource pack that I made for my friends, is I replaced rabbit hide with "leather scraps", which can be obtained in other methods than killing rabbits, such as smelting items like rotten flesh, to allow alternatives for leather farms than cows such as a zombie farm hooked up to smelters, at a slower rate as it acts as 1/4 of a leather, so cows are still the best but you have options. Additionally, Bundles are just crafted with 3 leather and 1 string, making one easy to get super early. Bundles, surprisingly, are incredibly useful to me and do a good job with some of the game's inventory issues when you can actually reasonably craft them, which I didn't expect. Last major change I'll mention is making it so all redstone items' recipes can exchange iron for copper, this makes it so mining copper early game is actually viable because you get it in such higher quantities than iron before you get an iron farm, bridging the gap for early machinery while keeping iron more abundant later game. These are really just band-aids on MC's bigger design issues, but my point is that a lot of small things can be helped with simple crafting tweaks, but Mojang refusing to do even this sort of thing has me very worried for any actual major changes.
There are so many things that are being added that could easily be substituted for a different item. Like glow squids. The only purpose for this literal reskinned squid is the drops, which make signs and item frames glow... something that glowstone dust could have easily done.
I also have to super hard agree on the wolf armor. They could have absolutely used turtle scutes or something, instead of adding an entire new mob that has no purpose other than for crafting one specific item. I guarantee you if the crab was added, the crab claw would have required some needlessly specific way to be obtained, only for the claw to give like +1 block reach and be used for nothing else.
But one extra block of reach is still a gamechanger. It would be the most sought after item for pvp, and even if it is disabled for pvp, the building options and redstone capabilities are endless. Even just mining would be a little bit easier. I do feel however that it should be an end game item and getting it from crabs off a beach seems very early game to me. Perhaps there should be an end crab variant that drops it instead. Definitely more uses than wolf armor and armadillos. Wolf armor couldve absolutely been done just like horse armor
They need to expand more on game systems people actually use instead of adding gimmick mobs that spawn in one biome and drop nothing. The nether and caves were good but everything else has just been filler
My opinion, as someone who cycles into Minecraft for short periods and then doesn't touch it for a long time, is that they really don't add anything new, if that makes sense. They may add in new mobs, blocks, and structures, but you still use those to mine/craft and sometimes place. I've been playing for over 8 years, I don't know when exactly I started, and I was obsessed. After a while, however, it all felt the same. Maybe I'm just a boring person. Maybe I need to give myself challenges. Or maybe it is in fact a problem.
Also I saw someone else talking about how Minecraft doesn't let mobs drop anything anymore, I wholeheartedly agree and was actually talking about that with a friend the other day!
I think the main problem with minecraft feeling the same is not that you're boring, but minecraft haven't changed anything to a casual player. The new mobs aren't integrated at all, they just are there for the wow value and it dies pretty quickly, that's when they introduce the next one to kick it back up.
@@nati0598 I agree, I just couldn't quite put it into words!
One of the big issues with the budding amethyst though... Is the player time bubble. Simply said, a lot of other survival games will update the state of a block when it gets loaded again with the amount of time that has passed. Minecraft for some reason, does not. So unless you live on top of a bunch of geodes you found, you won't be farming them much...
i literally forgot about turtle scute existing
i never even knew it existed in the first place
Speaking bout Inventory issues: the Dio boys (Granite, andesite, and diorite)
they're pretty annoying when mining for things, they're just small splotches of stuff that are only build exclusive and don't do much else besides being a stone alternative for recipes
do you know the answer provided to the question of "wha do we do wit'em???" that ISN'T Raw Removal? Do you know who has that answer? Beta 1.7.3 mod: "Better Than Adventure!"
BTA adds 3 new types of stone in similar fashion of modern's three stone-likes (BTA has Granite [Although its more sherbert colored than red] Limestone and Basalt)
how does BTA do it? instead of generating small little spots of the stuff, they're so big it feels like it's a different region ENTIRELY. so if you were to mine into the ground in BTA's world, you'd prolly be mining more granite than limestone depending on where you are, similar to IRL Real Life!
so it would be nice if mojay tweaked the dio boy's generation enough to where we could get possibly pretty granite caves and ravines of diorite!
(In fact, About the concept of re-using pre-existing items for new stuff is seen ALOT in Better Than Adventure:
the mod adds armored zombies, armored zombies drop chainlinks, chainlinks can be used with iron to create chainlink fences [A New block exclusive to BTA], AND can be used to FIX chainmail armor. chainmail armor can be reused forever basicly [Lamo].)
Bta is pretty cool
I think bta fixes soooo much stuff with the game. Want to see your coordinates? Make a compass. Have to much gravel/dirt/sand? Put in in a trommel. Want ice? use a gold pickaxe. And that's not even half all of the improvements made in bta that make minecraft much more fun
@@Orthodox_GenZ endless love to BTA. from: me. :) :)
Not to mention, armors are less stepping stones and more geared towards certain situations!
This is spot on. The only thing that has multiple uses (probably a hundred different uses) is the crafter that auto crafts.
And the bundles were going to add a new way to play and have storage management.
The polar bear? What use? Nothing. Literally nothing. What about llamas? Practically nothing. What about foxes? Automatic sweet berry farm maybe? Other than that nothing. Glow squid? Again no use.
Animals/mobs only get added if they are cute or seem cool and expansive. (They usually aren’t cool or expansive).
You have mojang literally making new games that have more in depth mobs than base game minecraft. What I think should happen is they should narrow their focus with what they add/change and broaden the effects it may have.
I always thought it would be cool if you could add glow ink to your armor to make it glow and sparkle and give off a light level of atleast 6-7.
Or make polar bears be a mount that is slower but can attack and swim with you on its back. And add snow armor when you kill polar bears.
There’s so much they could expand with. Or make a trap update that makes tons of traps in the games. It would improve efficiency with mob farms and animal farms. Or add animal auto breeders (feed troughs).
Weirdly enough, I actually wish they changed the jukebox crafting recipe to use amethyst instead of diamond. Diamond has plenty of uses already, and amethyst works better for jukeboxes as an idea due to its music associations in-game.
Tbh the gaps in features that, as far as i can see, we shouldve already had in the game (like apple pie, berry pie, different types of cakes, etc!) are the reasons modders like me make Vanilla+ mods
We SHOULD HAVE HAD apple pie by now. It shouldve been added alongside pumpkin pie imo
So far, ive mostly focused on food for my vanilla+ mod, but im sure there are plenty ofhers; maybe we could make leather armor for our dogs, but it has lower durability than scute armor! Maybe we can upgrade scute armor into iron armor! Who knows, there are so many posibilities in a game like Minecraft
And why cant the player make scute armor for themselves? Itd be easier to get than iron or chainmail, assuming you start in a relatively warm biome at least
Could call it something cool like Scutemail or just Plate armor or something
And copper minecart rails! Cheaper than gold ones, maybe they dont need power but dont go quite as fast or something idk
Theres plenty of cool stuff they could add to bridge recipe gaps, but idk if they even think about making new uses for old feattures anymore
They give old features uses all the time. Amethyst, Copper, and Tuff have all been revisited with new features and items. In 1.16 Glowstone received new functionality with Respawn Anchors.
You can also look at how items are given more functionality in less indirect ways. Trial Chambers provide areas to use your equipment in the midgame. The Deep Dark makes Hoes a useful tool for harvesting experience. Wool is a vital part of city exploration.
Features may be unrelated, but they can synthesize together to accomplish new things. Sculk Sensors and Amethyst Resonance can combine with various other redstone components in order to create new types of machinery, Lush Cave plants can be used in tandem with other plants to create new scenery and landscaping.
Look at the synergy that blocks enable in addition to their raw, basic usage.
And let’s be real, what’s Apple Pie doing for the game? If Mojang added it you’d just call it useless.
Each of these new updates added 1-2 new uses for some undesirable item. There is a lot of undesirable items, with more being added each update. At the rate each update is being made, there will be more of these items anyway. Systems should interconnect well with each other, not just "ehhh, letsa just slap it 'er, it' ll do fiiiine now"
@@littlehorn0063 do you have examples of what you’re talking about?
I would go further and say that copper should replace the iron in the rail recipe entirely. Although the minecarts are a whole different story, I would have copper make like 6 rails and if you use iron you would get 32. That's what I would do, many options with the same effect.
"The reward for finding [a volcano] is that you get to see it and build on it. Not challenge some special dungeon located inside of it."
This is such a good line, and could apply to any new biome/structure. A lot of Minecraft features should be there for the sake of being there, encouraging players to seek them out of their own volition instead of being like "oh I have to find one of those to get some exclusive gear."
I like that this video doesn’t act like copper is some completely useless waste of space when it’s clearly meant to be a building block
It's because Notch wanted a survival game, so he added tons of features that complimented that. What does mojang want? I don't even know, but it's definitely not a survival game.
i don't really know either, which is why i try to get into their head space in the video. i still can't really figure out what their overall game plan is, though.
It is because Microsoft and Mojang know two things - that their tagret audience is mostly children and that Notch captured a lightning in a bottle. This basically doomes them to add stuff that has no depth or real difficulty and won't deviate from a main game loop.
Look at how many weapons and movement features we have in game and compare it with how many good and challenging hostile mobs there are. They know that adding tricky hostile mobs would deter literal children from the game so they won't even bother designing it, although it could be a hard difficulty only feature.
The only mechanically deep area of the game that keeps getting updated is redstone, there's really nothing to tinker in thus game past the endgame besides big builds and redstone projects.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, I enjoyed hearing your views. Well worded too! The exploration stuff resonates with me, whenever I clear out my inventory and am ready to go explore a new cave, my inventory is full of items that I either have to stop and remove from my inventory (string, spider eyes, bones, stone variants like diorite, rotten flesh, leather, 2 random mutton and 3 colors of wool. It gives me the feeling that I have to stop and do chores instead of spending time doing what I wanted to do in the first place - explore. This issue is massively compounded if I happen to find a structure or a lot of treasure ore (Redstone, Nether Quartz, Iron/Gold/Copper Ore each taking up one or more inventory slots) that I also want to bring home with me. I end up having to carry several shulker boxes with me and/or an ender chest and then doing the tedious task of condensing my inventory instead of exploring T.T
I think Mojang has developed themselves into a box (or perhaps a block in this case) where there are solutions that make a lot of sense but they can't implement them now because it would disrupt the game balance they have worked towards; Solutions like being able to use a stone cutter or perhaps a new crafting block to convert stone and variants between each other - in the current state of the game this would turn stone generators into a grocery store of building blocks which I think in Mojang's eyes is a bad thing. But then this could allow for a single inventory slot to be 'stone' in a condensing-style of inventory like you described or like the bundle was trying to achieve.
This is irrelevant, but I haven't really got into a vanilla world since 1.19. It's kinda sad because this used to be my favorite game since I was a child. I'm tired of the updates being spoiled in their entirety months before they come out. They are literally stealing their own thunder. Then there's nothing to explore imo. I'd rather have maybe vague teasers with the big picture, not in-depth explanations. Then when the update releases, they could make release in-depth explanations.
Yup, now I only ever play modded, not even those QoL mods like yung's X or jei, I need something extreme like gregtech or thaumcraft.
You bring up great points! I’ve been on the edge of my seat since bundles were announced and was fairly disappointed to not see them when I loaded up the most recent update :/
i still think that there's something missing with bundles, some missing piece of design that would really take them from good to fantastic, but i'm not really sure what they could do. if they would just add them as-is to start with, that'd already be huge, though.
@@bumblebeebowties that missing piece is to make them put ANY item to 64, even the unstackable one(they'll still look like individual items in there
I have a side world with a datapack that I occasionally update if I encounter regular low-QOL gameplay, like crafting spyglasses with gold and quartz, all stone types and variants can be used in crafting and all can be "crafted-down" into cobblestone for deep cave exploration. Rabbits drop rabbit foots instead of hide. Turtles drop scute. Dog armor and saddles are crafted with leather
I also make zombies drop feathers, 0% for nostalgia. I've felt that was a better combat mechanic, rewarding melee combat with ranged ammo, which feels good on-the-fly in long cave explorations.
The constant adding of items somewhat reminds me of when an online multiplayer game has several types of in-game currency, most of which were added post-launch.
Mojang likes to "promote" IRL animals according to an inconsistent spreadsheet, but it's annoying when an animal they don't want you to kill in a video game has no function and is tied to a needed drop. No one complains that dolphins and axolotls don't have drops because the entities have gameplay function. Armadillos have a very niche redstone function, and turtles have none (their eggs do). Though they do good representation with pandas, who are completely useless in all sane regards. Mojang even wanted players to not feel like they should kill the Warden (not a boss, a hazard), but then they added a token drop to sculk catalysts for no reason, and when one player made a mob farm that broke sculk XP balance, they opted to globally nerf sculk instead of just removing the Warden drop table.
I'm not really sure what's happening at Mojang, but in the last few years have screamed "image over function". I know the devs don't like to "break previous worlds" with new updates or change existing recipes, but with things like the Warden drop, fireflies, rabbit hide, armadillo and turtle scute, and increasingly confusing political title screen splashes no sane adult would say to a seven-year-old, it screams that the devs know Minecraft can't fail, and are just doing whatever they feel, rather than how the game plays out. And if anyone complains, then the white knights can just say "get a mod/datapack", "eat around the ants in the salad."
With the spider's web of conflicting content they'd added, the only real solution is Minecraft 2. Something like the MMO Runescape, where they have two versions of the game, the one they have now, and one that rebalances item use for sane people. You can't even argue that it would take more resources to do with the rate they're releasing bare-bones content.
It astounds me that bats still serve basically zero purpose beyond atmosphere and flying in front of you when you're trying to do something every once in a while.
You've managed to put into words my dissatisfaction with Minecraft's direction as of late. I stopped playing somewhere after 1.5.2, and every time I came back since, I couldn't tell why, but almost every new feature felt weird, as if I'm playing a mod pack and not a vanilla game. It's been years, and I still just can't remember most of the features added over the years, probably because they just don't make any sense and have no meaningful purpose.
For me, if Mojang could stop whatever they are doing for the next update and just look for a way to make everything they added cohesive, including some older changes, like mending and the rabbit hide, they could do so much and they would need to add so little
They need to add a water pipe update using bamboo. Make the piping a red stone component. Then add the heaven/actual sky island biomes. Maybe make boomerangs a weapon that you can make outta just wood so you have an early projectile weapon.
Every instance of Mojang being hesitant to add useful drops to mobs because "they're endangered in real life" just adds a waste of a gameplay mechanic as well as do the complete opposite effect of what's intended.
Now instead of people remembering and thinking about polar bears, they're completely absent from people's memories.
It's something in particular PvZ did once or twice really bad called lock and key design. Problem has solution, nothing past that. A good example of a game working around that is Lethal Company's most recent update, the weedkiller they added to... well... kill weeds, now it can be used to heal your car
I like the name, lock and key design. Although making a key to fit a lock is a problem in itself, I think mojang makes the key first and then wonders what the lock should be.
@@nati0598 usually the problem is either trying to force the finding of one or the other. PvZ with cattail countering balloon zombies and fulfilling a unique role is a great example of how to go beyond it. Simply giving your key something else to do than be a key. Like imagine rabbit hide and armadillo scutes making saddles, or turtle scutes making parrot armor. Amethyst and copper making prismarine shards or something.
This shit probably happens since Mojang gets way more creative freedom during April fools updates. They feel less like 'jokes that are there for the sake of being there" and instead feel like "Shit we wanted to add but Microsoft didn't let us so we're adding it in the update that in supposed to be a joke update". The suspicious potato update was a HUGE offender because it had stuff like a grappling hook and a item that lets you move floating structures and an entire new dimension in a update that was made to be a joke. I heard it was because Microsoft didn't want to ruin the "integrity" of Minecraft but is pretty much already ruined because no animals drop something for killing them unless you do something very specific in order to get it. They feel less like "cool easter eggs if you think out of the box" to "the ONLY way to get shit from animals because killing them is a big nono". But yeah that's probably why updates in Minecraft feel way to bloated with mostly filled with shit nobody asked and/or wants to do.
Love the video,
I just started playing again recently on bedrock with friends on a realm, my biggest complaint is first that porting to mobile means that the mob limit has to be within like 2 chunks so on PC you can watch mobs despawn and theres always so many of them. Then the problem i see is the complete lack of direction for the game- i played java 1.6.4 to 1.8 as a kid and at that point the game was pretty much didnt need much changed, if i wanted more indepth gameplay i'd get mods which provided super detailed progression that vanilla isnt meant to provide. minecraft isn't really meant to be a boss fighting game, an exploring game, a survival game or a building game it supposed to be all of those if the player wants and mojang adding meaningless things really doesn't make any of those better,, like the deep snow bullshit is so utterly pointless when they could add more biomes or a rare boss or even another dimension, id like to see a big change,, I love the rare geological structure idea
i think one good thing is the world feels more alive with all the new mobs which many people dont agree with. sure they dont do anything but its cool to see a panda or a polar bear. they dont subtract from the game experience at all.
the problem comes when they have specific drops like rabbit hide and it subtracts from the game experience
I think usually the only situation when stuff with only one use should be added is when the thing is a cool and unique building block. For example, quartz blocks, all types of bricks and copper blocks. And also, there was this brilliant idea that I saw on a meme mod for beta 1.7.3, which is that copper blocks could be crafted with gold and iron ingots. Then just craft lightning rods and spyglasses out of gold, and suddenly you can get rid of the most useless ore, while also giving gold some desperately needed uses.
My opinion is that minecraft could use more depth of feautures, instead of more breadth. A very good video I once saw was arguing this point. it gave as an exmple the enderman, it is a feature that has a lot of depth with few individual components: it has a complex behavior, provides an unique challenge, drops useful loot with unique beahvior and uses, which can than lead to its own dimendion, there the endeman poses again a new challenge, and in the end game can be used as an xp farm. All that in a single mob.
Compare it with the husk and stray. They are one trick ponies basically, they are pretty much reskins.
Something great would be to add new combinations of already existing features, to create a nice ecosystem of features like we have with endermen. We can imagine stuff like: what would be some more cool, useful ways to combine, I don't know, quartz and gold? blaze rods and rotten flesh? rabbit feet and redstone? amethyst and emeralds? Copper and redstone? Wolf beahavior with rabbit behavior? etc etc
it's been apparent to me that mojang has an addiction to adding more and more new features while caring very little about the old ones for a whiile now. it's not just items, but structures, biomes, mobs and gameplay mechanics which all get abandoned because mojang only cares about the shiny new thing.
one of my favourite examples of this was when they added bees, they made like 4 new advancements all just related to different bee-related activities. this alone would be fine, but years later, if you were a new player looking at the advancement list, you would be confused as to why there are so many advancements focused on this one random animal, when there are so many other animals which have no advancements. there's nothing particularly special about mining a beehive or putting it above a campfire that's more interesting than much older mechanics, like shearing or dying a sheep, or igniting a creeper, milking a cow, hatching a chicken from an egg or riding a pig. it's just that bees were new and those other mobs were not. looking at the advancement list all these years later, it just looks strange now how there are so many advancements for bees and none for so many other animals.
unfortunately, i think the reason for this is, their priority isn't actually to make the game better, because they don't need to. any time spent fleshing out older mechanics is time they're not using to make new things which will look new and shiny and lure people back to the game. their priority is not to make the game better, its to make it seem more attractive. they're not incompetent, they just don't care about the same thing we do.
Mojang has an inflation fetish, but exclusively for inventories
The fact that a tiny dev team can make better content and updates within a matter of months while a multi-billion company takes years to add half-assed filler needs to be studied