I can't express how deeply it upsets me that assistance (for lack of a better word, I mean therapy/"treatment") for DID and other ptsd issues is so expensive. I understand the therapist needs to have had extensive training to be able to effectively assist in the healing process, but DAMN the system is broken if you have to pay for your trauma in so many ways. This doesn't feel like a coherent vent but I needed to put it out there.
Our therapist loved to talk about integration. She said that that's what she wanted for us. Never talked about fusion making us feel was the same thing. She terrified us that bad that even talk about it could trigger us. Bad. Thanks for explain this to us.
I'm one that used to be terrified of the word integration, but once my therapist explained the difference between integration and fusion, it changed everything. I'm not scared of that "i" word anymore. We've come a long way since then as a system. We've had some natural fusions happen, including one of our hosts fusing with 2 other former hosts, but fusion isn't our goal. Integration of parts and memories is the goal so that we see less PTSD and amnesia. Thanks for this video! - Jess
This is the first time I have been aware enough to notice HEY That's Jess talking with us. I've only accepted my systems existence for about a year. Cant find a trauma doctor, yet. I am also just recognizing when and who speaks as front, when co-fronting or enen everyone wanting to be out at the same tine and how body experiences this. And the way frustrations come to happen..
Even though I don't have DID, I think I can understand the fear of "losing" yourself. For me, I've had anxiety and a panic disorder since my very first memory (around 3 years old). I'm afraid that by going through with treatment, I'll be giving up how my mind has operated my entire life. I can't imagine living life with a mind that's slowed down or relaxed. For your system, it must be so much more scary to think of living a life without having each other in the way you do now.
I had the same fear with pretty much the same story. My first memory is from when I was four and was a panic attack. As someone who has been in treatment heavily for four years, my brain is still the same for better or worse. Treatment for me has been less about slowing down my brain but more about how to deal with it when it becomes detrimental to what I'm trying to do instead of beneficial. while medication has help tremendously for me, its not for everyone. sometimes all you need is a good arsenal of coping skills to get you through the extreme anxiety. I know that you didn't ask for my two sense but my point is saying all of this is that with the right therapist who knows what you want out of treatment, you CAN embrace the positive sides of an anxiety brain while having coping skills to deal with the negative sides of it if that's something you want!
This is probably the first video on this subject that didn't panic or distress me. You presented the information very well and in a non scary way. I'm so thankful that you guys made this video, it is very helpful. I hope it helps others to know the difference between the terms as well. I see these terms often being misused in different DID/OSDD communities. -Elsie
I just recently fused/integrated, and our whole experience was really weird. I as our gatekeeper/shell Leith definitely didn’t choose it, and I’m not sure whether our trauma holder Nora did or not. My theory is that because we have OSDD, my parts aren’t super distinct so there’s not that much keeping us apart beyond the circumstances that created us. The integration happened in a moment when something really rough had happened, and I as Leith suddenly completely understood why Nora was the way she was (we didn’t always get along). Looking back I feel that Nora wanted someone to help her be braver, and Leith wanted help with dealing with the world. I expect the brain decided that we were in such a similar frame of mind that we didn’t need the emotional amnesia between us anymore. Perhaps it felt we would be stronger together. I don’t know. It was certainly a rough ride at first. I as Leith was mad at Nora for at least a week after it happened. But now I’m enjoying learning about the person I’ve become, and I have the biggest appreciation for the role Nora had in the system (one which I never understood until we fused) and I’m also learning to really appreciate our combined worldviews and personality all in one place. So um I guess a lot of words to point out that this video was really timely! Thanks for the great content as always! ~ Ylva
I was diagnosed with DID in 1994 when fusion was the goal of treatment however it was never my goal.However after decades of intense healing work(and a few incredible therapists) fusion occured for me last fall.Now that I have experienced what it feels like to be fully present in my life I would never go back.I feel so much stronger-mentally,physically,and spiritually! I have always felt homesick for my entire life;now that I am finally home,I am happy,healthy,and truly free!Nameste
We have 3 integrated alters in our system and it’s really nice to hear it talked about! Thanks for explaining it more for people who don’t understand or want to learn more-Kaylee
I have found about this disorder not too long ago and have been reading and spreading it's awareness ever since, and so many times I have found people that found this condition hard to believe, only because they are not patient enough to understand it's causes and implications. Thank you for teaching and clarifying so many misconceptions!
I wonder what are Jess and the boys opinions on integration and if they ever feel afraid of it for many evident reasons, but being french, it's difficult for us to understand everything that was said. But judging by your face and tone, I guess that you're not? Anyway it's good to see you guys doing a video about this ^--^ -Nils
Chey Daniella yes, as is Ollie. Therapy for now is focused on Jess and Ed working through trauma memories and integration/fusion isn’t really on the horizon yet as far as what I have gathered.
From how she talks about them, Jess seems very fond of "her boys" (love that) as well. While it can be possible to maintain that love and appreciation of an alter while fusing into a singular being, I'm uncertain if that's what she and the rest of the system would ultimately want to work towards. I don't know them personally, but many of them seem very happy living the way they do, and it is possible when the individual alters sort out things mentally that they may get to experience more of that when in this outer world.
I’m a school teacher and I wanted to tell you that this was an amazingly well done educational video. You have a natural talent for teaching. Your visuals and manipulative aided this lesson’s concept so well. You make a great teacher.
Loved hearing you talk about this. When we were first diagnosed, we really pushed for fusion. Yep, bad call. But as we were able to accept our parts and allow them to fully be who they were, integration happened. After that, our focus was on each part being healthy. As they got healthier, that lead to spontaneous fusions.
@@jenniferf4471 from what I understand a person with DID can always resort back to creating a new alter as a result of trauma. It becomes their brains main defense mechanism and even if they were to fully integrate, the brain would still have the ability to create another alter if need be. I've seen this mentioned on DissociaDID's channel before!
I don't comment much, but I'm going to say you've helped me understand this disorder much better. I'm happy you are doing much better. Much love to everybody in the system, Gaz, the baby, and the pets. Stay healthy ♡
I have been watching another's channels journey the past few days and I have been anxious and sad seeing them going through fusions and splits over the past 2 years. I just want to better understand people and the world but I am very empathic so worry and fear for them (not of them) weighed heavy on my mind. This video and diving into the differences of fusion/intergration and what they mean overall helps me to better understand. Thank you for that and much love for all Systems and their journeys to happiness no matter what that looks like for each and every one of you
the way you compared this issue to like "rain falling down a window pane" really helped me to see how this really works. thank you so much for putting yourself out there!!
Omg YYAASS, I stopped at stage 1. Then we fell apart and sought help. That's when I was finally diagnosed. Also found out that I partially integrated on my own. Definitely hit hard stops and drop offs. Yes want to not have the unprocessed stuff but we all need to be here 💚💜💛 thank you
When I was first discovering my DID i was so scared to have more alters. But now years later its weird to think if not having them. I've gotten to know them and it feels like I'd be taking them out of existence if we were to fuse.
I myself don't have DID but I love you, DissociaDID, and Pinatas videos! They've helped me understand DID better and helped me to educate myself on this stigmatized disorder. I have depression and anxiety with BPD and I hope that ALL mental health stigmas can disappear some day. Much love ❤️
So I was originally diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia. But no matter how much I tuned them out they just kept getting louder. Finally I remembered learning about DID and how they have voices too in Psychology class in college. Then I decided to look into it. The treatment plan for Paranoid Schizophrenia is tuning them out and medication. But none of that seemed to work. And i was on 3 different medications at 3 different times. Started one, upped the dose several times, stopped one, started another one, upped the dose, stopped it, then tried the one I am on now. And upped the dose. The treatment plan for DID is to ask them their names and acknowledge them. So I decided to do that. They responded with their names and ages. Sophia (same age 27), Michael (30), Johnathan (7), Silvia (same age as Johnathan, the "twins", Erin (25), James (90s), Desiree (15). And I am the core personality Shane. There is actually a total of 13 but I only have names for them. So I named one of them Robert. And I haven't met all of them yet. I have introjected alters that some of them sound like people that bullied me. I think it is Other Specific Dissociative Disorder. Because I don't seem to have amnesia and am coconscious with Michael. However Michael had been fronting from 15 to 27. A few months after I turned 27 that is when I began to front again. And that is when I figured everything out. Though I guess it would make more sense to say he wasn't fronting the entire time just most of the time. At 15 the abuse of my father and bullying got so bad that my head phsyically hurt. I was stressed to the point where I cried myself to sleep in agonizing pain from my head. When I woke up "I" was depressed. Before that I had always been happy and quite naive. After that is when I guess Michael took over. He is completely consumed with hatred. The twins were there from the beginning. They'd switch with me and I would lose time as a kid. But nobody seemed to notice because I was always very quiet. For a long time I thought I was just zoning out. But I always thought it was weird that this zoning out was for hours on end. Didn't think anything of it. They love playing video games. Erin is a book worm. James was born Feb 10 1926. Desiree has a bubbly personality so to speak. Sophia is the one I want to front as and have her pull us together. She is more capable than me. And I identify as Transgender, Pansexual, and Poly because of her. But I put too much pressure on her and she split in two only to then pull herself back together some time later. I was tired for quite some time after she split and couldn't accept that she was gone. Which lead to her pulling herself together but at a price. She no longer wants to talk with me. If I do fuse if I can convince them to fuse. Then I will have to conquer my hatred and let it go. Our System name is Legion because we have a sick sense of humor and we think it sounds cool. Sophia formed from rejection to the point of sucidal. Erin formed because all the tasks that I was asked to do were too much and we need a task manager. lol. Weird how this reminds me of a computer. I was abused in early childhood and since I don't remember I couldn't tell you how the littles formed. But I can ask them sometime. Desiree formed from not being able to understand ourselves at a young age which caused stress till she formed. I know that was a lot to say but I wasn't diagnosed yet. My next appointment is soon and I might find out then. So far do you think it is possible that I have DID or DDNOS? I gave as much information as possible. I stil don't know everything yet. We are still learning. Here I am still using "I" when it is possible that there is more than one of us. Although I been using I my whole life so I guess I shouldn't worry about it.
Hello! I just wanted to say you are an amazing, strong, brilliant person who deserves everything that is good in your life. I don't want to sound rude or disrespectful, but when I found your channel I was a little bit afraid of watching stories about people with DID. I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with DID nor I have it but your channel made me realized how brave, unique and strong you are and made me understand how you have dealt with really difficult stuff. I am glad with you because you educated me. You have a beautiful family (your husband is an extremely nice person with you) and I just hope all of you live as happy as you can. Thanks a lot. (Sorry for my English, I am still learning)
Thank you for this video! I'm so grateful I found your channel a few years back as now I'm in a wonderful relationship with a system and understand their condition a little better. Integration and fusion are topics coming up lately so this video is really helping me. Lots of love from Germany!
I've heard many takes on fusion, and honestly, since it seems to be a sensitive topic, I never wanted to ask any system about it, because I don't want to be rude, but this video cleared all my questions! Thanks! 💕
can i just say that after watching y'all's channel for years seeing the relationships/bonds y'all have made with each other and seeing jess become more confident in herself as well as the whole system becoming more confident as a whole makes me so happy. y'all have grown so much and i'm SO proud of y'all 💙💙💙
i had a friend who has DID. one of her alters was really close to me and we formed a special relationship. but he fused with another alter just recently, and the boy i grew to love so much disappeared forever. your video helps me a lot to cope with this grief and sadness. thank you
Very informative! I have been confusing integration and fusion for a long time. Also, the explanations of teething time to adjust to fusion, as well as the concept of it falling back apart was helpful. I always enjoy your videos!
You're so amazing! Your videos are so easy for those of us who don't have DID (I have plenty of other mental & physical issues but that's another story) to understand and learn from. I hope you're all doing well and I send SO much love to you. Please keep doing the amazing job that you're doing!
Hey Jess and co. Thanks for this. It helped me understand my place in our system better. I formed from an accidental fusion of our previous host and what we understand to be a very recent fragment of said host. The host was experiencing lots of gender dysphoria and depression and confusion of identity, and this new person appeared who felt much more sturdy in their gender and identity and felt much stronger and more capable. About 2 months later we realised they were both gone and I was there instead, and nobody was really ready or expecting it. FYI it took us so long to realise because we experience similar to OSDD-1b (I say similar because we are undiagnosed) so we aren't always aware that we've switched unless we look in a mirror. Thanks again for helping me understand how I came about - Jamie
Discovered you on Facebook and been binging your videos all evening, absolutely fascinating and enriching info about your disorder and seeing your alters within the videos, as I'm currently studying to be an art/occupational therapist! And now I only just realised when I scrolled through your video descriptions that you live near to Cardiff, which is so close to me!! 🤩 How exciting!
We really appreciate you breaking this down because our system has been way too over the top and at times silent and it scares us we feel this is something that is happening because we can feel it and it tends to scare us (me especially)because we dont hear that familiar voice we are all so use too
I've read a number of comments that they feel Jake was partially present maybe even a touch of Ollie. I got mainly Jamie vibes with some Jake, maybe a touch of Ollie (sometimes I get Ollie's and Jess's happiness/excited-ness mixed up) and even a very slight touch of Ed at one point. If I'm totally wrong and out to lunch (so to speak), I'm sorry.
Thanks Jess & Jake for the informative video! I really enjoy learning more about DID through your channel. Keep up the great work guys!! Love from Cape Town, SA
It was very nice seeing you again. It did clear up something about what integration actually is. So thank you. Hope your system and your family are doing alright.
Hey! My girlfriend has recently been really enjoying your videos but she’s too shy to leave a comment herself. She’s been wondering when you dream, which of the alters dream if any, and what do you dream of? Is it whoever is in control when you sleep or something like that? If this has been answered already or anyone else knows the answer I would love to hear it! Thanks in advance!
I don’t know if this helps at all, but in a video by the Entropy System their host Wyn talks briefly about how some of the alters would get bad nightmares so they would choose one of the alters who didn’t get nightmares as the “designated sleeper”, to be fronting for the night. Doesn’t answer all her questions but certainly suggests that at least in the Entropy System the different alters have different dreams. DissociaDID also did a video about dreams. I haven’t seen it yet so I don’t know whether it answers any of your girlfriend’s questions but might be worth checking out. Hope this helps a little!
This is quite an old comment so you may know the answer by now but just in case: Ollie addressed at least part of this question in his video about their inner world. He said each alter can dream if they are fronting and they also dream in the inner world. As the commenter below showed some other examples, I think it's one of those things where each system is different.
I remember back when I was 19 I used to explain my personality as sometimes Linda sometimes Victoria, since those are my two names, and it's very noticeable that I act super social in certain situations and super introverted in others (just to name some differences, this is not all there is to it), don't love either and can't control how I'm going to behave. I do not consider this DID but it makes it easier to understand how it may feel at a surface level. Haven't gone deeper into it with my psychiatrist as I am positive I don't want to share what can be considered traumatic experiences. I thank you for your videos
Thank you for explaining the nuances of these two subjects, I always enjoy learning more, and I hope you, the boys, Gaz, and Eevee are all staying safe during this crazy time :)
Dear Jess, Or anyone who is currently Fronting. (I am aware you have answered in part his question in this video, I'm just asking on a personal level) _Are you worried about one of your boys integrating since you are so close_ _Are you worried about how olly, jake, would feel, Or if Ed, lost the individuality of jamie?_ _Do you think it would be difficult for your family to prepare, and is it something your system has talked about or made a plan for_
Thank you for this video you helped our system to kind of calm down and except that we don’t have to fuse if we don’t want to which we never wanted to but we were always afraid that it might happen and hopefully our therapist will help us to be who we are because she is a trauma therapist and is working with me but we aren’t doing trauma focusing yet not until I’m ready or one of my alters wants to come out and process the traumas with her because I have no idea what any of the traumas are as the host of the system and I would like to know what the traumas are but everybody has told me that the altars are there for a reason to keep me from being more harmed than what I already a.m. sincerely Danielle of the chaos system as host PS my wife does not want me to know about my traumas because she thinks it will do more harm than good
This is such a great video thank you for being so fab at explaining these things 🌈 Also, well done for going to trauma therapy!!! You’re amazing and so brave, processing trauma must be so challenging xxx
Our therapist brought up fusion last week as an end goal (we were defining them) in a way of „You have to have fusion as a final goal, otherwise you‘re wrong about it“. We don’t even know how many we are.
I dont have DID but i can kind of understand that some people would be scared to fuse into one whole as all they have ever known is these other people with them. I can imagine it could be quite lonely at first. Always love your videos.Take care
I know its not my place to say this but I think I would miss Jake so much if you would fuse together. I dont mean to be disrespectful though. I stopped watching you guys for whatever reason and I actually missed you all. Your system is just so unique and special. I'm so proud of you - all of you.
I think, you can tell these two words best apart by searching for descriptions most people will know: - Integration: If you start a new class, where nobody knows one another, there are many different people in the first place - but at the end of the school year they may (or may not) work well together, they meet after school, they see this class as a whole thing and can (for example) tell you easily when someone is missing because the person is ill. So, they feel as a whole, but they are still so-and-so-many people with their very own knowledge and personality and habits and so on. - Fusion: Think of Dragonball Z and of Trunks and Goten to fuse to become Gotenks - they go together saying "Fusion Ha!" and then there is only one person standing (after all the light and so is away), who is both boys at the same time (in this little clip for example: th-cam.com/video/R0uQor_juqE/w-d-xo.html )
subbed .. turned on notifications to this wonderful channel of self exploration xxxxx etc etc etc ... ty for this channel, its helped understand myself infinately ... its golden
I know integration and especially fusion can be very challenging for alters to come to terms with. As a singular person I try and empathize and help my loved one with DID but I can’t fully comprehend how this must feel for them all. On the one hand, of course healing and getting past traumas is the goal, but on the other I know some of the alters range from terror to apprehension about integration and fusion.
Thank you so much for the video! Not only do I feel #educaDID :D but it also brings a bright spot to my day to see your smiling face and cheerful personality. Lovely to see you Jess, give my best to the boys.
As always great video. But first this i noticed was introducing herself as jessica not jess. Is it just me or is that something new for the videos? Its always been its jess right?
I thought this, and her "aura" seemed slightly different too 🤔. Although of course that could just be my mind subconsciously expecting a change because of the title of the video 🤷🏻♀️?!
@@bookhousegirl I thought that too. It felt to me like Jamie was near/sometimes co-fronting. It seemed that way both in non-verbal mannerisms and some of the verbal vowel tones.
Hello MultiplicityAndMe, everyone in the system + Gaz! I am a very new follower and am so thankful for all the information, personal experiences and insights you have shared! I'm learning so much and am very thankful for all the energy you have contributed in order for me to be able to! A question: Is it possible for anyone to experience dissociation from events that happen on the inner world? Or is it something that is from the events experienced outside? Thank you all again for your creations! Deanna
Story time. Im researching tramatic forced fusion. Mostly because im pretty sure i had D.I.D. but during a episode where i almost killed myself and suffered permanent damage, I woke up in the hospital..and i was alone for the first time in my life. My brain was empty. It was and still is terrifying. I just have blank spots where the no longer exist and what they were protecting is just....gone. I was just accepting all of them and that they existed when they were just gone. Yes, Im crying right now. I get really emotional about this because its still so scary that they are gone. Its been six years living without them and my life feels like im missing something everyday. Oh, P.S. my mom is actually a diagnoised D.I.D. so i grew up with it.
i do not have did/osdd. i have dissociative amnesia and ptsd (diagnosed) and i felt like the “parts” i had have integrated over time ex; i had this part named Vasalina, born sept 23 2001 and was Ukrainian, mostly online and sexual. Rose was asian, like the Kpop group Black-pink (i really liked that group as a kid) and was shy and nice but then theres me, which is this mixture of all of those people that i had as a child (9-14). i now go by Moth and am treated for dissociative amnesia, ptsd, and bipolar 1
I don't know if there is a way to message you directly but a part of my system integrated naturally. With there being safety in separation and that Alter being an intrical part of me and the system in my opinion I am mourning their loss but don't really know how. My head is a little less quiet and while this helped with my trauma and me having way less PTSD attacks, way less intrusion of flashbacks especially in my sleep it's great and something I've needed just wasn't ready in the process to lose an integral part of myself. Thankfully I have a counselor but since I know that you have fully integrated your system I was wondering if you could make a video on if there was a grieving process, what maybe you felt like, and how to go on from here because I feel stuck. Also on a side question if an Alter has an accent could you gain that accent if they fully integrate. Thanks in advance.
I've always heard "integration" described as the dissociative walls between two or more alters or parts breaking down so they become one new alter. What you're describing sounds more like functional multiplicity which doesn't mean alters are becoming less separate people as the word integration implies, it just means they are working together better. Maybe the terms are different in different countries or the practical usage has changed, but you're the first person I've personally heard using those definitions so I'm not sure I agree.
The community (including me!) have been using integration as the interchangeable meaning for years. The act of getting closer to your alters is integration because that brings parts closer together, but once they are literally together, that’s fusion 😊 check out links in description if you needed the backup (or coping with trauma and dissociation by van der hart, Steele and Boone). Functional multiplicity is also whereby someone has processed trauma but still lives as fully multiple (step 3/4 in recovery)
When alters fuse do the 2 alters communicate this to each other prior to the fusion or is it more spontaneous? I'm trying to figure something out in my own system so many feedback is appreciated
I just had an integration of realizing I'm a real person. At first I was mindblown and just in awe of the feelings, but within an hour of being in that experience, I started to feel overwhelmed and a bit lost on what to do
I don't want to fully fuse with my alters because I am really happy with having alters. One of them, Lia, is also dating our boyfriend and we have made life plans as the three of us. We are conscious of the fact that Lia and I can end up fusing either with eachother or with other alters so these plans aren't set instone but ideally it's gonna be like that...
Thanks for this video. I don't have DID but I'm trying to get educated on it. I find this topic a bit confusing, not least because I'm sure some systems refer to what you described as fusion as integration, so I kind of got the idea that they could be used interchangably. So this topic does still confuse me a bit but thank you for all that you do anyway.
Some systems use it interchangeably, because they are either not well informed on the difference between the two themselves, or by the time they learned the difference they've already become so accustomed to saying it differently that they default to that. There are probably other reasons out there as well, but these are the reasons I've seen. I do personally think it's good if as many of us as possible use the words correctly, so people learn the right words and don't get confused anymore. Because I've seen too many systems shut down therapy unnecessarily, because the therapist kept bringing up integration, and the system thought they meant fusion. I think it would be great if this happened less.
I haven't heard of these terms but did process to the point of fusion myself. I thought of it as merging it's was a few years ago and now I wonder if I have missed a part because since merging I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. fatigue n pain n memory loss..cannot work and anxiety. I didn't know about unmergeing.i experienced a traumatic experience..a man broke into my home and assaulted me. so. maybe that's what happened. I became unfused.
Can a whole system fuse together and be "Cured" of DID? If this is possible, could it be possible in the future for a new alter to come about after total fusion has taken place? Also, if a fusion happens, can the host take on abilities that the alter has (ie, if an alter is able to play an instrument)?
I'm new to the world of DID and am trying to learn more. Your videos are very insightful, thank you for sharing your experiences. I know most of Hollywood portrays DID in such a negative light. I wonder if the movie Sybil is also a negative potrayal?
I didn't understand your explanation about the difference between integration and fusion, so I'll try to explain it with my words and I want people to correct me if I am wrong. Integration is the term used to describe a process, the process per which amnesia barriers between two alters are gradually lowered. Fusion is not a process, it is the result of integration, it refers to the moment where amnesia barriers disappear between two alters. From what I understand, integration can happened without fusion, it just means that the alters can cooperate more, but I am not sure if fusion can happen without the process of integration. Now about the alter resulting of a fusion. Fusion causes two groups of memories to become one group. The brain needs one alter per group of memories, that's how it works, so it can't keep the two alters as they were to keep hold of the same groupe of memories. Since the memories didn't change in themselves, and since memories are what condition an alter's personnality, the resulting alter logically shares similarities with both of the previous alters.
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You introduced yourself as Jessica instead of Jess and I thought you were making this video to tell us you all had fused lol.
Cat Lynn I thought the same thing, then I was like...no...Jess is short for Jessica lol
SAME lol
@@AltairScuti777 it flew over my head, went back and yeah, sounds weird, in a good way tho
Same😅
I almost cried lol
I can't express how deeply it upsets me that assistance (for lack of a better word, I mean therapy/"treatment") for DID and other ptsd issues is so expensive. I understand the therapist needs to have had extensive training to be able to effectively assist in the healing process, but DAMN the system is broken if you have to pay for your trauma in so many ways.
This doesn't feel like a coherent vent but I needed to put it out there.
Our therapist loved to talk about integration. She said that that's what she wanted for us. Never talked about fusion making us feel was the same thing. She terrified us that bad that even talk about it could trigger us. Bad. Thanks for explain this to us.
I'm sorry to hear that, my heart goes out to you as someone who knows how hard it can be talking to the a therapist that doesn't work for you.
I'm one that used to be terrified of the word integration, but once my therapist explained the difference between integration and fusion, it changed everything. I'm not scared of that "i" word anymore. We've come a long way since then as a system. We've had some natural fusions happen, including one of our hosts fusing with 2 other former hosts, but fusion isn't our goal. Integration of parts and memories is the goal so that we see less PTSD and amnesia.
Thanks for this video!
- Jess
This video, like all your videos, is brilliant. It always blows me away how well you explain these complicated concepts.
You are also very good at explaining complicated concepts. 😘
Wow it really felt like Jess and Jake were speaking at the same time! Glad to see you've gained a lot of on camera confidence Jess!! 😊
At the beginning of the video when introduced as Jess I was like 🤨 you sure there?
I heard Jake as well! Whomever is fronting, I'm so glad they chose to make the vid, and educate us. 💜
@@sydneymomma11 yeah, i also thought of Jake.
This is the first time I have been aware enough to notice HEY That's Jess talking with us. I've only accepted my systems existence for about a year. Cant find a trauma doctor, yet. I am also just recognizing when and who speaks as front, when co-fronting or enen everyone wanting to be out at the same tine and how body experiences this. And the way frustrations come to happen..
@@CN-dv9nj good luck with your journey !!!
Even though I don't have DID, I think I can understand the fear of "losing" yourself. For me, I've had anxiety and a panic disorder since my very first memory (around 3 years old). I'm afraid that by going through with treatment, I'll be giving up how my mind has operated my entire life. I can't imagine living life with a mind that's slowed down or relaxed. For your system, it must be so much more scary to think of living a life without having each other in the way you do now.
I had the same fear with pretty much the same story. My first memory is from when I was four and was a panic attack. As someone who has been in treatment heavily for four years, my brain is still the same for better or worse. Treatment for me has been less about slowing down my brain but more about how to deal with it when it becomes detrimental to what I'm trying to do instead of beneficial. while medication has help tremendously for me, its not for everyone. sometimes all you need is a good arsenal of coping skills to get you through the extreme anxiety. I know that you didn't ask for my two sense but my point is saying all of this is that with the right therapist who knows what you want out of treatment, you CAN embrace the positive sides of an anxiety brain while having coping skills to deal with the negative sides of it if that's something you want!
@@MS-pi4um Huh, alright. I'll keep that in mind for the future. Maybe once things settle down with coronavirus I'll look into it.
This is probably the first video on this subject that didn't panic or distress me. You presented the information very well and in a non scary way. I'm so thankful that you guys made this video, it is very helpful. I hope it helps others to know the difference between the terms as well. I see these terms often being misused in different DID/OSDD communities. -Elsie
I just recently fused/integrated, and our whole experience was really weird. I as our gatekeeper/shell Leith definitely didn’t choose it, and I’m not sure whether our trauma holder Nora did or not.
My theory is that because we have OSDD, my parts aren’t super distinct so there’s not that much keeping us apart beyond the circumstances that created us. The integration happened in a moment when something really rough had happened, and I as Leith suddenly completely understood why Nora was the way she was (we didn’t always get along). Looking back I feel that Nora wanted someone to help her be braver, and Leith wanted help with dealing with the world. I expect the brain decided that we were in such a similar frame of mind that we didn’t need the emotional amnesia between us anymore. Perhaps it felt we would be stronger together. I don’t know.
It was certainly a rough ride at first. I as Leith was mad at Nora for at least a week after it happened. But now I’m enjoying learning about the person I’ve become, and I have the biggest appreciation for the role Nora had in the system (one which I never understood until we fused) and I’m also learning to really appreciate our combined worldviews and personality all in one place.
So um I guess a lot of words to point out that this video was really timely! Thanks for the great content as always!
~ Ylva
Haven Elkham Do you mind if I ask, how do you pronounce your name? It’s a lovely name.
Katie Thanks! ^.^ though I do have to ask which name (I get this question a lot :P)
Ylva is pronounced like “ill-vuh”.
Stay strong guys!
I'm glad we are not the only one that experiences this sometimes. Sometimes its consensual other times its not.
@@NeonKat At least for me, now with 2 fusions under my belt, they have never been consensual 😂
I was diagnosed with DID in 1994 when fusion was the goal of treatment however it was never my goal.However after decades of intense healing work(and a few incredible therapists) fusion occured for me last fall.Now that I have experienced what it feels like to be fully present in my life I would never go back.I feel so much stronger-mentally,physically,and spiritually! I have always felt homesick for my entire life;now that I am finally home,I am happy,healthy,and truly free!Nameste
We have 3 integrated alters in our system and it’s really nice to hear it talked about! Thanks for explaining it more for people who don’t understand or want to learn more-Kaylee
Also for this more possitive look and feeling about integration! It's important we share this video with this and other communities
I have found about this disorder not too long ago and have been reading and spreading it's awareness ever since, and so many times I have found people that found this condition hard to believe, only because they are not patient enough to understand it's causes and implications. Thank you for teaching and clarifying so many misconceptions!
Thank you for sharing! I don't have DID but because of you guys I'm going into the Psychology field to uncover more about this subject.
That’s incredible!!! Best of luck with your studies 😊💖
I wonder what are Jess and the boys opinions on integration and if they ever feel afraid of it for many evident reasons, but being french, it's difficult for us to understand everything that was said. But judging by your face and tone, I guess that you're not?
Anyway it's good to see you guys doing a video about this ^--^
-Nils
In a Q and A livestream Jake said he was really scared of not existing anymore when he was asked if I remember correctly
Chey Daniella yes, as is Ollie. Therapy for now is focused on Jess and Ed working through trauma memories and integration/fusion isn’t really on the horizon yet as far as what I have gathered.
From how she talks about them, Jess seems very fond of "her boys" (love that) as well. While it can be possible to maintain that love and appreciation of an alter while fusing into a singular being, I'm uncertain if that's what she and the rest of the system would ultimately want to work towards. I don't know them personally, but many of them seem very happy living the way they do, and it is possible when the individual alters sort out things mentally that they may get to experience more of that when in this outer world.
I’m a school teacher and I wanted to tell you that this was an amazingly well done educational video. You have a natural talent for teaching. Your visuals and manipulative aided this lesson’s concept so well. You make a great teacher.
Loved hearing you talk about this. When we were first diagnosed, we really pushed for fusion. Yep, bad call. But as we were able to accept our parts and allow them to fully be who they were, integration happened. After that, our focus was on each part being healthy. As they got healthier, that lead to spontaneous fusions.
Does that mean that a person with DID can fully integrate into one person or identity? And if so does that mean they won’t have DID anymore
Yes and yes 😊 that’s called final fusion
@@MultiplicityAndMe would you still have the ability to split though? So if a new trauma occurred, you'd be able to split again?
Jennifer Fletcher Good question!
@@jenniferf4471 from what I understand a person with DID can always resort back to creating a new alter as a result of trauma. It becomes their brains main defense mechanism and even if they were to fully integrate, the brain would still have the ability to create another alter if need be. I've seen this mentioned on DissociaDID's channel before!
Jennifer Fletcher yes she mentioned in the video that if they went through some rough time they can split into separate people
I don't comment much, but I'm going to say you've helped me understand this disorder much better. I'm happy you are doing much better. Much love to everybody in the system, Gaz, the baby, and the pets. Stay healthy ♡
I have been watching another's channels journey the past few days and I have been anxious and sad seeing them going through fusions and splits over the past 2 years. I just want to better understand people and the world but I am very empathic so worry and fear for them (not of them) weighed heavy on my mind. This video and diving into the differences of fusion/intergration and what they mean overall helps me to better understand. Thank you for that and much love for all Systems and their journeys to happiness no matter what that looks like for each and every one of you
the way you compared this issue to like "rain falling down a window pane" really helped me to see how this really works. thank you so much for putting yourself out there!!
I love how well spoken and confident you are in this video! Thank you for explaining this so well!
I absolutely love how you not only explain with your words but with visual examples. It really helps cement what you are talking about!
Omg YYAASS, I stopped at stage 1. Then we fell apart and sought help. That's when I was finally diagnosed. Also found out that I partially integrated on my own. Definitely hit hard stops and drop offs. Yes want to not have the unprocessed stuff but we all need to be here 💚💜💛 thank you
When I was first discovering my DID i was so scared to have more alters.
But now years later its weird to think if not having them.
I've gotten to know them and it feels like I'd be taking them out of existence if we were to fuse.
AndiZana yeah same here
I myself don't have DID but I love you, DissociaDID, and Pinatas videos! They've helped me understand DID better and helped me to educate myself on this stigmatized disorder. I have depression and anxiety with BPD and I hope that ALL mental health stigmas can disappear some day.
Much love ❤️
So I was originally diagnosed with Paranoid Schizophrenia. But no matter how much I tuned them out they just kept getting louder. Finally I remembered learning about DID and how they have voices too in Psychology class in college. Then I decided to look into it. The treatment plan for Paranoid Schizophrenia is tuning them out and medication. But none of that seemed to work. And i was on 3 different medications at 3 different times. Started one, upped the dose several times, stopped one, started another one, upped the dose, stopped it, then tried the one I am on now. And upped the dose. The treatment plan for DID is to ask them their names and acknowledge them. So I decided to do that. They responded with their names and ages. Sophia (same age 27), Michael (30), Johnathan (7), Silvia (same age as Johnathan, the "twins", Erin (25), James (90s), Desiree (15). And I am the core personality Shane. There is actually a total of 13 but I only have names for them. So I named one of them Robert. And I haven't met all of them yet. I have introjected alters that some of them sound like people that bullied me. I think it is Other Specific Dissociative Disorder. Because I don't seem to have amnesia and am coconscious with Michael. However Michael had been fronting from 15 to 27. A few months after I turned 27 that is when I began to front again. And that is when I figured everything out. Though I guess it would make more sense to say he wasn't fronting the entire time just most of the time. At 15 the abuse of my father and bullying got so bad that my head phsyically hurt. I was stressed to the point where I cried myself to sleep in agonizing pain from my head. When I woke up "I" was depressed. Before that I had always been happy and quite naive. After that is when I guess Michael took over. He is completely consumed with hatred. The twins were there from the beginning. They'd switch with me and I would lose time as a kid. But nobody seemed to notice because I was always very quiet. For a long time I thought I was just zoning out. But I always thought it was weird that this zoning out was for hours on end. Didn't think anything of it. They love playing video games. Erin is a book worm. James was born Feb 10 1926. Desiree has a bubbly personality so to speak. Sophia is the one I want to front as and have her pull us together. She is more capable than me. And I identify as Transgender, Pansexual, and Poly because of her. But I put too much pressure on her and she split in two only to then pull herself back together some time later. I was tired for quite some time after she split and couldn't accept that she was gone. Which lead to her pulling herself together but at a price. She no longer wants to talk with me. If I do fuse if I can convince them to fuse. Then I will have to conquer my hatred and let it go. Our System name is Legion because we have a sick sense of humor and we think it sounds cool. Sophia formed from rejection to the point of sucidal. Erin formed because all the tasks that I was asked to do were too much and we need a task manager. lol. Weird how this reminds me of a computer. I was abused in early childhood and since I don't remember I couldn't tell you how the littles formed. But I can ask them sometime. Desiree formed from not being able to understand ourselves at a young age which caused stress till she formed.
I know that was a lot to say but I wasn't diagnosed yet. My next appointment is soon and I might find out then. So far do you think it is possible that I have DID or DDNOS? I gave as much information as possible. I stil don't know everything yet. We are still learning. Here I am still using "I" when it is possible that there is more than one of us. Although I been using I my whole life so I guess I shouldn't worry about it.
Hello! I just wanted to say you are an amazing, strong, brilliant person who deserves everything that is good in your life. I don't want to sound rude or disrespectful, but when I found your channel I was a little bit afraid of watching stories about people with DID. I don't know anyone who has been diagnosed with DID nor I have it but your channel made me realized how brave, unique and strong you are and made me understand how you have dealt with really difficult stuff. I am glad with you because you educated me. You have a beautiful family (your husband is an extremely nice person with you) and I just hope all of you live as happy as you can. Thanks a lot. (Sorry for my English, I am still learning)
Thank you for this video! I'm so grateful I found your channel a few years back as now I'm in a wonderful relationship with a system and understand their condition a little better. Integration and fusion are topics coming up lately so this video is really helping me. Lots of love from Germany!
Thank you for talking about this! Integration sounds like a good process when done right. Thanks and Smilies!
It definitely is 😊 it’s all part of recovery
I've heard many takes on fusion, and honestly, since it seems to be a sensitive topic, I never wanted to ask any system about it, because I don't want to be rude, but this video cleared all my questions! Thanks! 💕
can i just say that after watching y'all's channel for years seeing the relationships/bonds y'all have made with each other and seeing jess become more confident in herself as well as the whole system becoming more confident as a whole makes me so happy. y'all have grown so much and i'm SO proud of y'all 💙💙💙
You all are beautiful. It takes courage to accept yourself completely
I'm so glad that you are back ❤️❤️
I didn't even know there was a difference between integration and fusion, thank you for explaining that! :)
- Rylan
Thanks for all the information! It really makes sense and summarises a lot of medical information in an understandable way as well.
As an alter integration, thank you. This helped me explain to the littles what happened to Luna and Sarah (my 2 halfs), Ily Jess!
i had a friend who has DID. one of her alters was really close to me and we formed a special relationship.
but he fused with another alter just recently, and the boy i grew to love so much disappeared forever.
your video helps me a lot to cope with this grief and sadness.
thank you
Was Jamie close? Thought I heard a few phrases that sounded like him. Hope you guys are keeping safe with all this craziness going on! x
I could also hear Jamie! I kept expecting him to make an appearance.
I thought it was Jamie. Sounded like Jess’ accent kept dropping off and going posher like Jamie’s
I heard Jamie and Jake
Very informative! I have been confusing integration and fusion for a long time. Also, the explanations of teething time to adjust to fusion, as well as the concept of it falling back apart was helpful. I always enjoy your videos!
You're so amazing! Your videos are so easy for those of us who don't have DID (I have plenty of other mental & physical issues but that's another story) to understand and learn from. I hope you're all doing well and I send SO much love to you. Please keep doing the amazing job that you're doing!
Just wanted to say I love watching your Chanel. It's so fascinating and love listening to each of you talk and learning how your life works ❣️
Hey Jess and co. Thanks for this. It helped me understand my place in our system better.
I formed from an accidental fusion of our previous host and what we understand to be a very recent fragment of said host. The host was experiencing lots of gender dysphoria and depression and confusion of identity, and this new person appeared who felt much more sturdy in their gender and identity and felt much stronger and more capable. About 2 months later we realised they were both gone and I was there instead, and nobody was really ready or expecting it.
FYI it took us so long to realise because we experience similar to OSDD-1b (I say similar because we are undiagnosed) so we aren't always aware that we've switched unless we look in a mirror.
Thanks again for helping me understand how I came about
- Jamie
I really enjoy learning about DID, I've always been fascinated by how it works. I really enjoy your channel 💙💙💙
Thanks for explaining! I can use the terms correctly now because we want functional multiplicity and integration, but not final fusion.
I absolutely LOVE the orange analogy, so helpful
Love this video!! I don’t have DID, but I feel more educated on how to approach and interact with those who do. Also, rockin’ that red!!
Discovered you on Facebook and been binging your videos all evening, absolutely fascinating and enriching info about your disorder and seeing your alters within the videos, as I'm currently studying to be an art/occupational therapist! And now I only just realised when I scrolled through your video descriptions that you live near to Cardiff, which is so close to me!! 🤩 How exciting!
Differently another video that's educated me, you make them so easy to understand thank you stay safe ❤️
We really appreciate you breaking this down because our system has been way too over the top and at times silent and it scares us we feel this is something that is happening because we can feel it and it tends to scare us (me especially)because we dont hear that familiar voice we are all so use too
I've read a number of comments that they feel Jake was partially present maybe even a touch of Ollie.
I got mainly Jamie vibes with some Jake, maybe a touch of Ollie (sometimes I get Ollie's and Jess's happiness/excited-ness mixed up) and even a very slight touch of Ed at one point. If I'm totally wrong and out to lunch (so to speak), I'm sorry.
it all feels very busy
Love all of you guys and Jess and Gaz
Gosh motherhood looks good on you all - glowing! Thank you this video, so informative :)
Thanks jess. This is our first time integrating and we needed help because I feel awful. I have a headache, fatigue and a stomach ache
Thanks Jess & Jake for the informative video! I really enjoy learning more about DID through your channel. Keep up the great work guys!! Love from Cape Town, SA
Happy to see you, I like the way that your lip color and shirt complement eachother. Lovely video, as always
It was very nice seeing you again. It did clear up something about what integration actually is. So thank you. Hope your system and your family are doing alright.
Thank you this kinda helped me and what's going on right now.
Hey! My girlfriend has recently been really enjoying your videos but she’s too shy to leave a comment herself. She’s been wondering when you dream, which of the alters dream if any, and what do you dream of? Is it whoever is in control when you sleep or something like that? If this has been answered already or anyone else knows the answer I would love to hear it! Thanks in advance!
I don’t know if this helps at all, but in a video by the Entropy System their host Wyn talks briefly about how some of the alters would get bad nightmares so they would choose one of the alters who didn’t get nightmares as the “designated sleeper”, to be fronting for the night. Doesn’t answer all her questions but certainly suggests that at least in the Entropy System the different alters have different dreams.
DissociaDID also did a video about dreams. I haven’t seen it yet so I don’t know whether it answers any of your girlfriend’s questions but might be worth checking out.
Hope this helps a little!
This is quite an old comment so you may know the answer by now but just in case: Ollie addressed at least part of this question in his video about their inner world. He said each alter can dream if they are fronting and they also dream in the inner world. As the commenter below showed some other examples, I think it's one of those things where each system is different.
I remember back when I was 19 I used to explain my personality as sometimes Linda sometimes Victoria, since those are my two names, and it's very noticeable that I act super social in certain situations and super introverted in others (just to name some differences, this is not all there is to it), don't love either and can't control how I'm going to behave. I do not consider this DID but it makes it easier to understand how it may feel at a surface level. Haven't gone deeper into it with my psychiatrist as I am positive I don't want to share what can be considered traumatic experiences. I thank you for your videos
Thank you for explaining the nuances of these two subjects, I always enjoy learning more, and I hope you, the boys, Gaz, and Eevee are all staying safe during this crazy time :)
Dear Jess, Or anyone who is currently Fronting. (I am aware you have answered in part his question in this video, I'm just asking on a personal level)
_Are you worried about one of your boys integrating since you are so close_
_Are you worried about how olly, jake, would feel, Or if Ed, lost the individuality of jamie?_
_Do you think it would be difficult for your family to prepare, and is it something your system has talked about or made a plan for_
Thank you for this video you helped our system to kind of calm down and except that we don’t have to fuse if we don’t want to which we never wanted to but we were always afraid that it might happen and hopefully our therapist will help us to be who we are because she is a trauma therapist and is working with me but we aren’t doing trauma focusing yet not until I’m ready or one of my alters wants to come out and process the traumas with her because I have no idea what any of the traumas are as the host of the system and I would like to know what the traumas are but everybody has told me that the altars are there for a reason to keep me from being more harmed than what I already a.m. sincerely Danielle of the chaos system as host PS my wife does not want me to know about my traumas because she thinks it will do more harm than good
This is such a great video thank you for being so fab at explaining these things 🌈 Also, well done for going to trauma therapy!!! You’re amazing and so brave, processing trauma must be so challenging xxx
I felt like Jamie was confronting here to help you out :) hope you are doing well!
Our therapist brought up fusion last week as an end goal (we were defining them) in a way of „You have to have fusion as a final goal, otherwise you‘re wrong about it“.
We don’t even know how many we are.
I dont have DID but i can kind of understand that some people would be scared to fuse into one whole as all they have ever known is these other people with them. I can imagine it could be quite lonely at first. Always love your videos.Take care
I know its not my place to say this but I think I would miss Jake so much if you would fuse together. I dont mean to be disrespectful though.
I stopped watching you guys for whatever reason and I actually missed you all. Your system is just so unique and special. I'm so proud of you - all of you.
Thank you so much for explaining this. I’ve been wondering for a while and wasn’t sure if it was a question that should be asked.
I think, you can tell these two words best apart by searching for descriptions most people will know:
- Integration: If you start a new class, where nobody knows one another, there are many different people in the first place - but at the end of the school year they may (or may not) work well together, they meet after school, they see this class as a whole thing and can (for example) tell you easily when someone is missing because the person is ill. So, they feel as a whole, but they are still so-and-so-many people with their very own knowledge and personality and habits and so on.
- Fusion: Think of Dragonball Z and of Trunks and Goten to fuse to become Gotenks - they go together saying "Fusion Ha!" and then there is only one person standing (after all the light and so is away), who is both boys at the same time (in this little clip for example: th-cam.com/video/R0uQor_juqE/w-d-xo.html )
Always appreciate the education. Hope everybody is doing well :D
subbed .. turned on notifications to this wonderful channel of self exploration xxxxx etc etc etc ... ty for this channel, its helped understand myself infinately ... its golden
I know integration and especially fusion can be very challenging for alters to come to terms with. As a singular person I try and empathize and help my loved one with DID but I can’t fully comprehend how this must feel for them all. On the one hand, of course healing and getting past traumas is the goal, but on the other I know some of the alters range from terror to apprehension about integration and fusion.
Thank you so much for the video! Not only do I feel #educaDID :D but it also brings a bright spot to my day to see your smiling face and cheerful personality. Lovely to see you Jess, give my best to the boys.
Absolutely fascinating!, I also couldn't help notice the funko pops in the background 😁
As always great video. But first this i noticed was introducing herself as jessica not jess. Is it just me or is that something new for the videos? Its always been its jess right?
I thought this, and her "aura" seemed slightly different too 🤔. Although of course that could just be my mind subconsciously expecting a change because of the title of the video 🤷🏻♀️?!
@@bookhousegirl I thought that too. It felt to me like Jamie was near/sometimes co-fronting. It seemed that way both in non-verbal mannerisms and some of the verbal vowel tones.
Thank you, this is really helpful. The Sidran article touched me deeply!
Hello MultiplicityAndMe, everyone in the system + Gaz! I am a very new follower and am so thankful for all the information, personal experiences and insights you have shared! I'm learning so much and am very thankful for all the energy you have contributed in order for me to be able to! A question: Is it possible for anyone to experience dissociation from events that happen on the inner world? Or is it something that is from the events experienced outside?
Thank you all again for your creations! Deanna
Story time. Im researching tramatic forced fusion. Mostly because im pretty sure i had D.I.D. but during a episode where i almost killed myself and suffered permanent damage, I woke up in the hospital..and i was alone for the first time in my life. My brain was empty. It was and still is terrifying. I just have blank spots where the no longer exist and what they were protecting is just....gone. I was just accepting all of them and that they existed when they were just gone. Yes, Im crying right now. I get really emotional about this because its still so scary that they are gone. Its been six years living without them and my life feels like im missing something everyday. Oh, P.S. my mom is actually a diagnoised D.I.D. so i grew up with it.
i do not have did/osdd. i have dissociative amnesia and ptsd (diagnosed) and i felt like the “parts” i had have integrated over time
ex; i had this part named Vasalina, born sept 23 2001 and was Ukrainian, mostly online and sexual.
Rose was asian, like the Kpop group Black-pink (i really liked that group as a kid) and was shy and nice
but then theres me, which is this mixture of all of those people that i had as a child (9-14). i now go by Moth and am treated for dissociative amnesia, ptsd, and bipolar 1
Jessica your so beautiful!!! I love to see your happy face! You all are such a strong group! ❤️ can’t wait for your next video!!!
I don't know if there is a way to message you directly but a part of my system integrated naturally. With there being safety in separation and that Alter being an intrical part of me and the system in my opinion I am mourning their loss but don't really know how. My head is a little less quiet and while this helped with my trauma and me having way less PTSD attacks, way less intrusion of flashbacks especially in my sleep it's great and something I've needed just wasn't ready in the process to lose an integral part of myself. Thankfully I have a counselor but since I know that you have fully integrated your system I was wondering if you could make a video on if there was a grieving process, what maybe you felt like, and how to go on from here because I feel stuck. Also on a side question if an Alter has an accent could you gain that accent if they fully integrate. Thanks in advance.
Absolutely loved the video!! Made a lot of sense, and straightened it all out for us, well done and thank you!!
I've always heard "integration" described as the dissociative walls between two or more alters or parts breaking down so they become one new alter. What you're describing sounds more like functional multiplicity which doesn't mean alters are becoming less separate people as the word integration implies, it just means they are working together better. Maybe the terms are different in different countries or the practical usage has changed, but you're the first person I've personally heard using those definitions so I'm not sure I agree.
The community (including me!) have been using integration as the interchangeable meaning for years. The act of getting closer to your alters is integration because that brings parts closer together, but once they are literally together, that’s fusion 😊 check out links in description if you needed the backup (or coping with trauma and dissociation by van der hart, Steele and Boone). Functional multiplicity is also whereby someone has processed trauma but still lives as fully multiple (step 3/4 in recovery)
Love seeing videos from you all!❤️❤️
very informative. Thanks for sharing
Jess you look absolutely gorgeous!
That’s so lovely of you to say ☺️ thank you
MultiplicityAndMe of course !! Great video as always. Thank you for all you do
When alters fuse do the 2 alters communicate this to each other prior to the fusion or is it more spontaneous? I'm trying to figure something out in my own system so many feedback is appreciated
I just had an integration of realizing I'm a real person. At first I was mindblown and just in awe of the feelings, but within an hour of being in that experience, I started to feel overwhelmed and a bit lost on what to do
I don't want to fully fuse with my alters because I am really
happy with having alters. One of them, Lia, is also dating our boyfriend and we have made life plans as the three of us.
We are conscious of the fact that Lia and I can end up fusing either with eachother or with other alters so these plans aren't set instone but ideally it's gonna be like that...
민지야~ I hope everything goes great for you guys !! ^-^ -Pandora
Thanks for this video. I don't have DID but I'm trying to get educated on it. I find this topic a bit confusing, not least because I'm sure some systems refer to what you described as fusion as integration, so I kind of got the idea that they could be used interchangably. So this topic does still confuse me a bit but thank you for all that you do anyway.
Some systems use it interchangeably, because they are either not well informed on the difference between the two themselves, or by the time they learned the difference they've already become so accustomed to saying it differently that they default to that. There are probably other reasons out there as well, but these are the reasons I've seen.
I do personally think it's good if as many of us as possible use the words correctly, so people learn the right words and don't get confused anymore. Because I've seen too many systems shut down therapy unnecessarily, because the therapist kept bringing up integration, and the system thought they meant fusion. I think it would be great if this happened less.
Another incredible video! Thank you for what you do!
@multiplicityandme Thanks for explaining things so well. I am struggling to get to know my parts right now. How did you go about it?
I haven't heard of these terms but did process to the point of fusion myself. I thought of it as merging
it's was a few years ago and now I wonder if I have missed a part because since merging I have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. fatigue n pain n memory loss..cannot work and anxiety. I didn't know about unmergeing.i experienced a traumatic experience..a man broke into my home and assaulted me. so. maybe that's what happened. I became unfused.
Can a whole system fuse together and be "Cured" of DID? If this is possible, could it be possible in the future for a new alter to come about after total fusion has taken place? Also, if a fusion happens, can the host take on abilities that the alter has (ie, if an alter is able to play an instrument)?
I'm colourblind so I didn't know you were wearing orange until you said I genuinely thought it was bright red!!!!!❤️
It's a very reddish orange rather than a true orange in the lighting of the video
I 💜 you guys and learn SO much!!!
Wonderful video! So explanatory
This is so informative! Thank you 🙏
I'm new to the world of DID and am trying to learn more. Your videos are very insightful, thank you for sharing your experiences. I know most of Hollywood portrays DID in such a negative light. I wonder if the movie Sybil is also a negative potrayal?
I didn't understand your explanation about the difference between integration and fusion, so I'll try to explain it with my words and I want people to correct me if I am wrong. Integration is the term used to describe a process, the process per which amnesia barriers between two alters are gradually lowered. Fusion is not a process, it is the result of integration, it refers to the moment where amnesia barriers disappear between two alters. From what I understand, integration can happened without fusion, it just means that the alters can cooperate more, but I am not sure if fusion can happen without the process of integration.
Now about the alter resulting of a fusion. Fusion causes two groups of memories to become one group. The brain needs one alter per group of memories, that's how it works, so it can't keep the two alters as they were to keep hold of the same groupe of memories. Since the memories didn't change in themselves, and since memories are what condition an alter's personnality, the resulting alter logically shares similarities with both of the previous alters.