To be honest most episodes from season 7 are pretty bad to only middling so journey to the centre of the TARDIS is definitely a nice episode to break up all of the okayness
I kinda expected even more exploration of the tardis in this episode. I really liked the idea. But i'm still craving for even more TARDIS exploration. If they do it wel they can tells so much more stories.
I've said it time and time again: 'if this episode was in series 1, everyone would have thought it was genius, but since it was in series 7, everyone acts like it is shite. i always liked this story for all the reasons in this video, but i also liked the tension it placed between Eleven and Clara. i loved their performances in this, bc their relationship was pushed to the limit. and the moment where Eleven feels sad that the TARDIS is dying around him and he can't help, so Clara grabs his hand... WONDERFUL!
Nah we say it’s shit because it’s shit. If it were written in series 1 RTD would’ve overlooked it and made the script better. Moffat’s era from about mid series 6 was just a massive decline.
@@NileSWPhotography that's how u feel and i totally understand, but i disagree entirely. i liked a share of stories since mid series 6. but each to his own :) besides, series 1 had its problems as well. there were episodes that had companion used as plot devices, deuds ex machinas (yeah, those actually began in series1) , the doctor beginning to have sexual tension with a 19 yr old girl, and soap opera drama that started a trend. i can't say that rtd would have made the script better when there were flawed stories in his era, some were his own every now and again. it's not his fault, bc no one can b perfect all the time. but again, that's how u feel, and good for u ;)
@@user-jn1wm3tb8v i wish it didn't, but it did. i wish i could ignore every definition of the term and the history of it, but can't. i can't care about others' perception of reality, just because the truth didn't fit with their agenda.
My opinion of this is I would rather have a companion with the doctor explaining as they go around the TARDIS when there are no crises going on maybe a short series of doctor who about the doctor and the TARDIS just exploring it.
@@NileSWPhotography understandable. each to his own, and that's all there is to it. i love series 3 as well. actually season 3-7 are my fav times of new who... and i like classic who as well. yes, i am one of those strange hooligans who doesn't hate series 7. there's nothing i can do about it. i like it as well and have fun with it, and that's just how the cookie crumbles. peace, friend :)
I loved this episode for what it did. The plot was meh, the villains were meh, and the scavenger guys were meh, but none of that was actually the focus. The focus was on the journey through the TARDIS, we got to see more than ever before, we saw the TARDIS twist and change to defend itself, we saw it feel like a spaceship whilst also feeling alive, and we got to see the one true safe haven turn hostile. The focus was never on the plot, it was on the TARDIS, and I think that was executed brilliantly.
I honestly do not understand, how it is that a great video essay about a well known franchise does not get more views. Probably the TH-cam algorithem is to blame. Thank you for this video and for defending a truely enjoyable, nice and visually stunning episode of new who!:)
Season 7b was my very first season with Matt Smith and I freakin’ loved this episode and Hide especially. For a season of primarily filler episodes aside from The Bells of Saint John (fun but only alright) and The Name of the Doctor (suspenseful but ultimately doesn’t make a ton of sense), this episode was pretty great
I have no idea why but this episode has always been my favourite of all time, despite it not being my favourite doctor/companion duo or favourite season. There’s just something about it, I always go back to this one when I want to rewatch. Also they explore the entire universe constantly when there’s so much to explore right there in the Tardis.
I enjoyed it because I loved that the tardis was extended and also the doctor and Clara have a boyfriend girlfriend moment when he asks if clara and the tardis would be alone because they don't get along
In see it as the TARDIS like a shape shifter or wizard who decided become a planet then humans mine on it. What do you think will happen. The shape shifter will lash out becoming a nightmare world In my opinion it could/should of been a lot worse because it's alive and scared and being torn apart it would behave more aggressive pretective especially over Clara and the doctor An idea for an episode is the TARDIS puts the master though a unending torture while the doctor tries to find him and convince the TARDIS in to giving up Overall i love this episode and want more like it
There's a plot in the books about a tardis that got stretched out by a black hole (I think?) and it became an impossibly huge structure in space and was eventually colonised by billions
i liked it so much, that i thought they could do a much better job with the concept. as i have had the exact itch as moffat since The Christmas invasion, with the wardrobe and sequentially with S5 and 6 with the swimming pool and staircases going up and down in the console room. clara could at least gone into the swimming room, not walk past it for a millisecond. still, im glad the episode exists.
I feel this is a significant problem with much of Moffat’s era. Episodes built around a very specific fan fic idea, which I always found as a distraction rather than a fun fact. Like the Magician's Apprentice / Witch's Familiar two parter, which was made so he could have the longest ever Davros and The Doctor conversation scene. Seriously, he went on record saying that he loves all the classic who scenes in which The Doctor meets Davros face to face. "Sparks always fly, but they are always relatively short" so he set out to build an entire episode around making a meeting between the two of them much longer. Never mind that half the reason these scenes were so good was because they were both rare and short. And it showed in this case, the longer it went on the less interesting it became. This is not to say these are bad episodes. The Magician's Apprentice and the Witch's Familiar set the stage for what was to become my favourite season of the Moffat era. I just found this pair of episodes to be weaker than the rest.
For me, I felt like this episode didn't follow up on its promise. I wanted to see more of the TARDIS than we got. We didn't even see the Zero Room or the TARDIS bedrooms, and we only got a glimpse of the TARDIS swimming pool through a doorway.
I think you really glossed over the ending here. My problem with it wasn't so much that time was reset (for all the reasons you explained) but that it was reset with a "magical button" that almost came out of nowwhere. It has been a while since I've seen this episode, but if I remember correctly it went something like "if we can get to this one room before this terrible thing happens, we can fix everything". But then they get there and the thing has already happend. But fear not, because an alternative solution comes out of nowhere a minuite later. I felt so cheated! Its a deus ex machina and those really bug me. It is one of those things that can ruin an entire episode for me, which is a shame, because I like a lot of that episode. Honestly the overuse of deus ex machina is probably the main reason for my dislike of season 7B. They were everywhere.
This was one of my favourite episodes when I watched it. I was 14 at the time and big into playing Minecraft. I made a replica of the TARDIS with the multi-story library, tree, the cliff, observatory, exploding shrapnel room, engine with the star, swimming pool and every detail I could think of. I put over 100 hours into it!
finally someone is talking about this story i have seen all of new who and just under half of classic who and journey to the centre of the TARDIS is my Favourite story of all time
The big problem that i have is that it's disappointing, for someone who was disappointed with the tardis in the 4th doctor era, it was still really disappointing, most of the shorts are just hallways and the odd shots (some of which are really bad especially the ones just glimpsed though doorways, like the swiming poor) of interesting looking rooms (like the liberary, even if it looked a bit small for someone thousands of years old) and one interesting room with the eye of harmany.
It was too messy for me. I definitely don't hate it/dislike it but the salvage team aspect just doesn't work for me, especially the cyborg sub plot. Doctor and Clara deliver as usual, it's still good enough but, yeah. Meh, I guess.
I thought everyone loved this episode like I did, I wanted to see more of the TARDIS though, every time the characters turned a corner I found myself anticipating what could we see next, what rooms will the episode include. I really want another TARDIS episode , but not one with Chris chibs as show runner or writer
What about Logopolis? There was extensive exploration of the TARDIS in that story which didn’t look like abandoned Leisure centres in that one. But nobody remembers that, they always latch onto the stuff they hate, forgetting about episodes which address the previous disappointments.
I actually think this is a really cool, episode and that there should have been more episodes in the Tardis, since it's so massive on the inside, an actually dimension, it's in the name, I really enjoyed this episode then and now. :)
I thought the episode was solid, and still do. I like the fact that the Tardis has a room that creates stuff for the doctor, I like the fact that it's pointed out that the Tardis is going to be upset when someone other than the Doctor tries to steal from it.... I like the fact that the Tardis is more complex... The story itself dealt with one particular aspect of Time travel well.. Doctor Who doesn't actually have 'hard rules' when it comes to time travel, so it's always fun to see them explore a different aspect of time travel.
Little late to comment, but I just had to say that there's literally only one thing wrong with this episode that made me push the memory of it out of my mind as best I can, and that is quite simply the actors playing the brothers. Been a while since I watched the episode, but I remember their "acting" being cringe-worthy bad, even by Doctor Who standards. Wasn't mentioned in the vid and didn't see any mention of it in the comments at a quick glance though oddly, so am I misremembering? Great vid regardless though, gonna binge some more of these older episodes of yours!
Personally i just prefer this episode if Clara just said "hey can we look around this place there's gotta be loads to it" n the doctor was just like "sure" and it was just jampacked of shit he found throught the whole series and just showing her how it works
i like this episode mostly because for how do we see the tardis. we know she is alive and stuff, but in this episode i think we can see more of her personality and how much the doctor is connected with her btw, i L O V E the fanservice of the swimming pool, is just G O L D
This wasn't a terrible episode at all people give the plot more crap than it really deserve like you say the visual is stunning, the theme is okay overall it a fun watch
Journey to the centre of the tardis is a play on words with Journey to the centre of the earth, it could also be interpreted with an additional meaning, as the Tardis is the centre of the universe along with the doctor, in a way, too.
Honestly I've kinda gone the opposite as a lot of people. I hated this the first time and cause I was like 10 or something when I saw it, it kinda freaked me out. (so yeah it gave me nightmares like he said) Nowadays, I love this episode. I think it was well thought out and the exploration of the tardis was great.
I know I'm late to the party on this one.....Just finished watching this episode, really love enjoyed it, the pacing, how is shot the mood, seeing the different aspects of the Tardis! Loved it!!
Yeah… even after this I still can’t entirely get behind it. My biggest gripe is with the lore. Russel T Davies established that the Time Vortex was What powered the TARDIS and its heart was an open link to that. The TV movie established that the Eye of Harmony was this mythical time thing. But in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS it just looks like.. an engine. I love the idea of exploring the TARDIS but this strips away too much ofbthe mysticism. It felt like the Midi-Chlorians of Doctor Who. Plus, I dont feel like the Van Braffens deserved their redemption at all. The Doctor says once that one of them isn’t entirely terrible and then at the end of the episode he’s a totally different character for… definitely a reason. Plus, this episode also includes one of my least favorite Moffatisms: the Doctor verbally stating out loud how helpless he is. The worst offender of this was The Doctor’s Wife where he says “I don’t know what to do. That’s new~” as if it’s Moffat saying he’s the first to ever write a conundrum for the Doctor. But his “She was always there for me. Now she needs me and I don’t know what to do.” Is still just… frustrating. Moffat makes the Doctor say stuff like this just to make his stories seem significant
I disliked it when I first saw it. The big problem was the Doctor. Essentially he had some salvagers on his ship, they tried to take part of the Tardis, and he basically just stood there saying "Please don't take it.". He made no real attempt to stop them, as if physically trying to stop them was off limits for some reason.
I loved the episode not only because of the exploration of the TARDIS but to me it seems to be one of the only memorable stories with a supporting cast in the Moffat era...
I remember the first time i watched this episode i was at a sleepover with my friend Caitlin (who at the time i was crushing on and didn't realise. ahh repressed lesbian feels) And both of us are really big Doctor Who fans and we both really enjoyed this episode. I like 7b in general. It's over hated.
I think the title of the episode just promises more than the episode can deliver. I feel like The Doctor's Wife does more to explore the Tardis interior and mystify its space despite devoting comparatively little time to the concept. In hindsight, 'Journey' really does just feel like running around a bunch of hallways. People argue we get to see various cool rooms the Tardis contains, but most of them are just quick flashes of a greenscreen door. Ultimately 'Journey' left me feeling like the Tardis was kind of boring...which is absolutely the last thing an episode like this should make you feel.
the episode is not bad, it just has so much more potential. i wish it was a bit more like the god complex, and play up the endless time maze. and just show more rooms. also the lava monsters are weird and look rubbery. also its a shame that exploring the tardis was in this series 7 set. if it was 12's console or 9's it would have been cooler instead of just grey metal everywhere. as 10's wardrobe was probably the coolest looking tardis room. and the tardis (egg chamber) in this episode was a really cool idea but it felt kinda empty and more like a set in doctor who than a room in the tardis. and i just didnt like the brothers. the begining of the episode was cool and i wondered what was going ot happen next, but the plot just kinda got boring. anyway im glad it exists.
I really liked the TARDIS exploration in this episode, but this was actually the last Doctor Who episode that I watched as it was airing until Bill became the companion. I really hated the whole impossible girl arc so much and I really disliked Clara as a companion that this episode felt like a final straw to me
Wait, there was a swimming pool in this episode? I had to miss it between long scenes of running from the time zombies through dark corridors. I mean, honestly that's my problem with this episode. I would expect every type of wonders inside the TARDIS, but this episode preferred to present me with identical corridors and Moffat Paradox #335, making interesting stuff just blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameos.
The old show should have used film cuts and mat paintings like you like did see in the background along with the idea of Q in Star Trek that it is more then a old building but this is all your mind right now is able to see it as. Using the story of christopher columbus and the indians for people to better understand. It is said the indians could not see the boats as it was something outside of what they could understand but as one did start to see he told the others and they did see to.
Personally I found the production design rather hit and miss. The outside sets and the black hole look great but the corridors are soo bland and fell into a similar issue that invasion of time did. The camera angles are good but if there were at least roundels then I might have been more forgiving. I also think that those time monsters would have been much more effective if they were just something that came from within the TARDIS as it went on forever and as a result some people got lost and came across a source which converted them into whatever those things were. That adds to the mystery of the Doctor due to the stuff that he has got hidden deep within the TARDIS and caused the audience who wonder what he’s actually like when he goes deep inside the TARDIS and he’s truly alone. I don’t think this is the worst episode ever but a dud due to wasted potential.
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I really don’t understand the hate for this episode; personally it’s one of my faves from series 7
Right?! It's a great episode, severely underrated
To be honest most episodes from season 7 are pretty bad to only middling so journey to the centre of the TARDIS is definitely a nice episode to break up all of the okayness
Same.
I gotta agree there
Personally I enjoyed the episode because to be honest I always wanted to see more of the TARDIS or at least the Legendary Swimming Pool
Exactly! It might just be fanservice, but I always love seeing more of the TARDIS
Well, it is the best ship in the universe.
@shlamabam it was shown on the episode
I kinda expected even more exploration of the tardis in this episode. I really liked the idea. But i'm still craving for even more TARDIS exploration. If they do it wel they can tells so much more stories.
Hopefully for series 13
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I've said it time and time again: 'if this episode was in series 1, everyone would have thought it was genius, but since it was in series 7, everyone acts like it is shite. i always liked this story for all the reasons in this video, but i also liked the tension it placed between Eleven and Clara. i loved their performances in this, bc their relationship was pushed to the limit. and the moment where Eleven feels sad that the TARDIS is dying around him and he can't help, so Clara grabs his hand... WONDERFUL!
Nah we say it’s shit because it’s shit. If it were written in series 1 RTD would’ve overlooked it and made the script better. Moffat’s era from about mid series 6 was just a massive decline.
@@NileSWPhotography that's how u feel and i totally understand, but i disagree entirely. i liked a share of stories since mid series 6. but each to his own :) besides, series 1 had its problems as well. there were episodes that had companion used as plot devices, deuds ex machinas (yeah, those actually began in series1) , the doctor beginning to have sexual tension with a 19 yr old girl, and soap opera drama that started a trend. i can't say that rtd would have made the script better when there were flawed stories in his era, some were his own every now and again. it's not his fault, bc no one can b perfect all the time. but again, that's how u feel, and good for u ;)
@@philadelphiawhovian5641 imagine thinking deus ex machinas started with series one.
@@user-jn1wm3tb8v i wish it didn't, but it did. i wish i could ignore every definition of the term and the history of it, but can't. i can't care about others' perception of reality, just because the truth didn't fit with their agenda.
@@philadelphiawhovian5641 huh? I'm just mentioning how classic who did it too.
"It's the BBC, there's no price for admission anyway."
He said, while paying the license fee.
Jiм Pickеns yes was going to say the same, the unique way your bbc is funded!!
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I know, right! Everyone has to pay so they don't have to rely on making good content.
@@DeBanked doesn't matter if people watch their stuff, they still get paid
swimming pools like his fetish? no no you misunderstand, he was just trying to get a scene of Karen Gillan or Jenna Coleman in a bikini lol
It was a noble goal tbh
fair enough
I'd pay for that
@@J.Jonah.Jameson. Watch Coleman in Room at the Top
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Thank you.
honestly just running around the tardis for an hour is good enough for me, ITS THE TARDIS
Journey to the Centre of the Tardis is one of the few gems of series 7.
My opinion of this is I would rather have a companion with the doctor explaining as they go around the TARDIS when there are no crises going on maybe a short series of doctor who about the doctor and the TARDIS just exploring it.
Series 7 was my first exposure to Doctor Who, I could never hate it.
me too!
Literally the worst season was your first exposure that’s so sad …
@@NileSWPhotography when it comes to worst, it's all subjective. for many, it sucks. for others, it's definitely fun.
@@philadelphiawhovian5641 my first season was season 3 and thank God it was 😩 I was here for the golden age
@@NileSWPhotography understandable. each to his own, and that's all there is to it. i love series 3 as well. actually season 3-7 are my fav times of new who... and i like classic who as well. yes, i am one of those strange hooligans who doesn't hate series 7. there's nothing i can do about it. i like it as well and have fun with it, and that's just how the cookie crumbles. peace, friend :)
I loved this episode for what it did. The plot was meh, the villains were meh, and the scavenger guys were meh, but none of that was actually the focus. The focus was on the journey through the TARDIS, we got to see more than ever before, we saw the TARDIS twist and change to defend itself, we saw it feel like a spaceship whilst also feeling alive, and we got to see the one true safe haven turn hostile. The focus was never on the plot, it was on the TARDIS, and I think that was executed brilliantly.
4:19 This and many other reasons is y Smith's 1st Tardis is my fav!!! It's bright, lovely and really shows the "golden age" of NewWho
Actually, in Series 6, they do, somewhat, explore the TARDIS, coming upon the tenth iteration’s control room while House is playing tricks on them.
I honestly do not understand, how it is that a great video essay about a well known franchise does not get more views. Probably the TH-cam algorithem is to blame. Thank you for this video and for defending a truely enjoyable, nice and visually stunning episode of new who!:)
Aw, thank you so much! I don't make these videos for views, I just make them because I enjoy it!
Season 7b was my very first season with Matt Smith and I freakin’ loved this episode and Hide especially. For a season of primarily filler episodes aside from The Bells of Saint John (fun but only alright) and The Name of the Doctor (suspenseful but ultimately doesn’t make a ton of sense), this episode was pretty great
I have no idea why but this episode has always been my favourite of all time, despite it not being my favourite doctor/companion duo or favourite season. There’s just something about it, I always go back to this one when I want to rewatch. Also they explore the entire universe constantly when there’s so much to explore right there in the Tardis.
I enjoyed it because I loved that the tardis was extended and also the doctor and Clara have a boyfriend girlfriend moment when he asks if clara and the tardis would be alone because they don't get along
In see it as the TARDIS like a shape shifter or wizard who decided become a planet then humans mine on it. What do you think will happen. The shape shifter will lash out becoming a nightmare world
In my opinion it could/should of been a lot worse because it's alive and scared and being torn apart it would behave more aggressive pretective especially over Clara and the doctor
An idea for an episode is the TARDIS puts the master though a unending torture while the doctor tries to find him and convince the TARDIS in to giving up
Overall i love this episode and want more like it
There's a plot in the books about a tardis that got stretched out by a black hole (I think?) and it became an impossibly huge structure in space and was eventually colonised by billions
@@GlitchyTheGlitch oh shit o wanna read that u know the books name?
i liked it so much, that i thought they could do a much better job with the concept. as i have had the exact itch as moffat since The Christmas invasion, with the wardrobe and sequentially with S5 and 6 with the swimming pool and staircases going up and down in the console room. clara could at least gone into the swimming room, not walk past it for a millisecond. still, im glad the episode exists.
only recently found your channel and been binging your videos, loving your content especially as there can never be enough discussion on doctor who!
Thank you so much! I just enjoy making videos about things that interest me, so it's always great to get such support!
I feel this is a significant problem with much of Moffat’s era. Episodes built around a very specific fan fic idea, which I always found as a distraction rather than a fun fact. Like the Magician's Apprentice / Witch's Familiar two parter, which was made so he could have the longest ever Davros and The Doctor conversation scene. Seriously, he went on record saying that he loves all the classic who scenes in which The Doctor meets Davros face to face. "Sparks always fly, but they are always relatively short" so he set out to build an entire episode around making a meeting between the two of them much longer. Never mind that half the reason these scenes were so good was because they were both rare and short. And it showed in this case, the longer it went on the less interesting it became.
This is not to say these are bad episodes. The Magician's Apprentice and the Witch's Familiar set the stage for what was to become my favourite season of the Moffat era. I just found this pair of episodes to be weaker than the rest.
This was one of my favourite episodes, at least with Clara.
For me, I felt like this episode didn't follow up on its promise. I wanted to see more of the TARDIS than we got. We didn't even see the Zero Room or the TARDIS bedrooms, and we only got a glimpse of the TARDIS swimming pool through a doorway.
I think you really glossed over the ending here. My problem with it wasn't so much that time was reset (for all the reasons you explained) but that it was reset with a "magical button" that almost came out of nowwhere. It has been a while since I've seen this episode, but if I remember correctly it went something like "if we can get to this one room before this terrible thing happens, we can fix everything". But then they get there and the thing has already happend. But fear not, because an alternative solution comes out of nowhere a minuite later. I felt so cheated! Its a deus ex machina and those really bug me. It is one of those things that can ruin an entire episode for me, which is a shame, because I like a lot of that episode.
Honestly the overuse of deus ex machina is probably the main reason for my dislike of season 7B. They were everywhere.
This was one of my favourite episodes when I watched it. I was 14 at the time and big into playing Minecraft. I made a replica of the TARDIS with the multi-story library, tree, the cliff, observatory, exploding shrapnel room, engine with the star, swimming pool and every detail I could think of. I put over 100 hours into it!
finally someone is talking about this story i have seen all of new who and just under half of classic who and journey to the centre of the TARDIS is my Favourite story of all time
Yeah gotta agree with Moffat. That episode in the classic was a bit underwhelming. Like it's a futuristic time machine not a hospital.
The big problem that i have is that it's disappointing, for someone who was disappointed with the tardis in the 4th doctor era, it was still really disappointing, most of the shorts are just hallways and the odd shots (some of which are really bad especially the ones just glimpsed though doorways, like the swiming poor) of interesting looking rooms (like the liberary, even if it looked a bit small for someone thousands of years old) and one interesting room with the eye of harmany.
8:59 did anyone see the name on that key, funny little detail :)
It was too messy for me. I definitely don't hate it/dislike it but the salvage team aspect just doesn't work for me, especially the cyborg sub plot.
Doctor and Clara deliver as usual, it's still good enough but, yeah. Meh, I guess.
I didn't realise many people disliked this, I've always really liked it
I thought everyone loved this episode like I did, I wanted to see more of the TARDIS though, every time the characters turned a corner I found myself anticipating what could we see next, what rooms will the episode include. I really want another TARDIS episode , but not one with Chris chibs as show runner or writer
I absolutely loved this episode, I didn't even know there was stigma around it. It's honestly one of my favorite Matt Smith Era episodes.
What about Logopolis? There was extensive exploration of the TARDIS in that story which didn’t look like abandoned Leisure centres in that one. But nobody remembers that, they always latch onto the stuff they hate, forgetting about episodes which address the previous disappointments.
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I actually think this is a really cool, episode and that there should have been more episodes in the Tardis, since it's so massive on the inside, an actually dimension, it's in the name, I really enjoyed this episode then and now. :)
The fact that he actually got a photo of young Steven Moffat
I just can’t get on board with Clara. I have tried, but she’s very unlikeable to me. Flawed characters are fine, but she is not my cup of tea.
I thought the episode was solid, and still do. I like the fact that the Tardis has a room that creates stuff for the doctor, I like the fact that it's pointed out that the Tardis is going to be upset when someone other than the Doctor tries to steal from it.... I like the fact that the Tardis is more complex... The story itself dealt with one particular aspect of Time travel well.. Doctor Who doesn't actually have 'hard rules' when it comes to time travel, so it's always fun to see them explore a different aspect of time travel.
7:21 looks like a statue of meme man (Stonks)
I agree! It's actually a really good episode :D
I know, right?! I've always enjoyed it
@@HarboWholmes Yeah I'm so happy the episode exists tbh :)
Neeeaaaa!
I like this episode as I like films or episodes where the main characters are in a maze running away or trying to escape, not sure why.
I loved this episode, it was so intriguing! I didn't understand the hate for it.
Little late to comment, but I just had to say that there's literally only one thing wrong with this episode that made me push the memory of it out of my mind as best I can, and that is quite simply the actors playing the brothers. Been a while since I watched the episode, but I remember their "acting" being cringe-worthy bad, even by Doctor Who standards. Wasn't mentioned in the vid and didn't see any mention of it in the comments at a quick glance though oddly, so am I misremembering?
Great vid regardless though, gonna binge some more of these older episodes of yours!
Um, this video is fantastic why does it only have 4,500 views?
Personally i just prefer this episode if Clara just said "hey can we look around this place there's gotta be loads to it" n the doctor was just like "sure" and it was just jampacked of shit he found throught the whole series and just showing her how it works
Would be a good way to disguise a clipshow episode
I think Stephen Thompson is an underrated writer in general.
I want to see more of these types of episodes so I can make more rooms for my TARDIS
i like this episode mostly because for how do we see the tardis. we know she is alive and stuff, but in this episode i think we can see more of her personality and how much the doctor is connected with her
btw, i L O V E the fanservice of the swimming pool, is just G O L D
The Tardis can look like a random disused 1970's hospital if it wants.
The hate for season 7 baffles me. I love almost all of it.
Same
Same here
This wasn't a terrible episode at all people give the plot more crap than it really deserve like you say the visual is stunning, the theme is okay overall it a fun watch
NGL, this was one of my fav 11th Doctor episodes!
Journey to the centre of the tardis is a play on words with Journey to the centre of the earth, it could also be interpreted with an additional meaning, as the Tardis is the centre of the universe along with the doctor, in a way, too.
Honestly I've kinda gone the opposite as a lot of people. I hated this the first time and cause I was like 10 or something when I saw it, it kinda freaked me out. (so yeah it gave me nightmares like he said) Nowadays, I love this episode. I think it was well thought out and the exploration of the tardis was great.
I love the swimming pool as much as Moffat. It feels what you'd need to make the tardis feel like home
I know I'm late to the party on this one.....Just finished watching this episode, really love enjoyed it, the pacing, how is shot the mood, seeing the different aspects of the Tardis! Loved it!!
If I were to things that I agree with but I find the brothers to be very annoying and also I find the robot android thing to be just very cruel
"that people enjoyed at the time"
... Really?
Cuz I'll be honest
The episode made me feel ill
Loved it then and still. I would not say its anything but great. The mood, the setting. Clara and the Doctor, all great.
Yeah… even after this I still can’t entirely get behind it. My biggest gripe is with the lore.
Russel T Davies established that the Time Vortex was What powered the TARDIS and its heart was an open link to that. The TV movie established that the Eye of Harmony was this mythical time thing. But in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS it just looks like.. an engine. I love the idea of exploring the TARDIS but this strips away too much ofbthe mysticism. It felt like the Midi-Chlorians of Doctor Who.
Plus, I dont feel like the Van Braffens deserved their redemption at all. The Doctor says once that one of them isn’t entirely terrible and then at the end of the episode he’s a totally different character for… definitely a reason.
Plus, this episode also includes one of my least favorite Moffatisms: the Doctor verbally stating out loud how helpless he is. The worst offender of this was The Doctor’s Wife where he says “I don’t know what to do. That’s new~” as if it’s Moffat saying he’s the first to ever write a conundrum for the Doctor. But his “She was always there for me. Now she needs me and I don’t know what to do.” Is still just… frustrating. Moffat makes the Doctor say stuff like this just to make his stories seem significant
I loved this episode, and still do. Its sooo like, confusing. But I love that.
I disliked it when I first saw it. The big problem was the Doctor. Essentially he had some salvagers on his ship, they tried to take part of the Tardis, and he basically just stood there saying "Please don't take it.". He made no real attempt to stop them, as if physically trying to stop them was off limits for some reason.
I loved the episode not only because of the exploration of the TARDIS but to me it seems to be one of the only memorable stories with a supporting cast in the Moffat era...
Ahhhh the good old days when HMV’s were everywhere💔.
- I hope the TARDIS breach we saw in the new Trailer means we’ll see more of 13’s TARDIS❤️
I really liked it and still do. Recently bought seasons 5-7 on dvd for cheap and this was one of the first episodes i watched from them
I remember the first time i watched this episode i was at a sleepover with my friend Caitlin (who at the time i was crushing on and didn't realise. ahh repressed lesbian feels) And both of us are really big Doctor Who fans and we both really enjoyed this episode. I like 7b in general. It's over hated.
I needed this episode. I always wanted to see more of the Tardis.
Maybe while she was a person, the TARDIS told the 11th something about the swimming pool that we don't know...
This is one of the few episodes I never saw to its end. So no it is not just in hindsight for all of us
I think the title of the episode just promises more than the episode can deliver. I feel like The Doctor's Wife does more to explore the Tardis interior and mystify its space despite devoting comparatively little time to the concept. In hindsight, 'Journey' really does just feel like running around a bunch of hallways. People argue we get to see various cool rooms the Tardis contains, but most of them are just quick flashes of a greenscreen door. Ultimately 'Journey' left me feeling like the Tardis was kind of boring...which is absolutely the last thing an episode like this should make you feel.
No true fan can fail to be moved by just the swimming pool and the library and the sheer heft this lends to the ship
I didn't know this episode was hated... it's one of my absolute favourites
I loved the episode because we finally got to see more of the Tardis. I hate that we only see the console room although the Tardis is infinite
3:30 There's the swimming pool in Classic Who
I loved this episode, my favourite for season 7b if you aren't counting Day of the Doctor
the episode is not bad, it just has so much more potential. i wish it was a bit more like the god complex, and play up the endless time maze. and just show more rooms. also the lava monsters are weird and look rubbery. also its a shame that exploring the tardis was in this series 7 set. if it was 12's console or 9's it would have been cooler instead of just grey metal everywhere. as 10's wardrobe was probably the coolest looking tardis room. and the tardis (egg chamber) in this episode was a really cool idea but it felt kinda empty and more like a set in doctor who than a room in the tardis. and i just didnt like the brothers. the begining of the episode was cool and i wondered what was going ot happen next, but the plot just kinda got boring. anyway im glad it exists.
I really liked the TARDIS exploration in this episode, but this was actually the last Doctor Who episode that I watched as it was airing until Bill became the companion. I really hated the whole impossible girl arc so much and I really disliked Clara as a companion that this episode felt like a final straw to me
Have you caught up since? There have been some real gems in series 8 and 9
"But hey, its the BBC, so there was no price of admission in the first place"
Not when I don't pay my TV licence there isn't!
Honestly, this is the ONLY episode of Series 7 that I revisit.
I didn't even know people hated this episode, really like it.
Wait, there was a swimming pool in this episode? I had to miss it between long scenes of running from the time zombies through dark corridors.
I mean, honestly that's my problem with this episode. I would expect every type of wonders inside the TARDIS, but this episode preferred to present me with identical corridors and Moffat Paradox #335, making interesting stuff just blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameos.
The old show should have used film cuts and mat paintings like you like did see in the background along with the idea of Q in Star Trek that it is more then a old building but this is all your mind right now is able to see it as. Using the story of christopher columbus and the indians for people to better understand. It is said the indians could not see the boats as it was something outside of what they could understand but as one did start to see he told the others and they did see to.
Too jazzy?!
Its news to me that people dont like it i think its fab
Clara knows the Doctor's name. She just forgot it, but she might remember
I actually always liked this episode....thanks for doing this.
what’s the song?
I always wondered how the tardis was and this was really good!!!!
Personally I found the production design rather hit and miss. The outside sets and the black hole look great but the corridors are soo bland and fell into a similar issue that invasion of time did. The camera angles are good but if there were at least roundels then I might have been more forgiving.
I also think that those time monsters would have been much more effective if they were just something that came from within the TARDIS as it went on forever and as a result some people got lost and came across a source which converted them into whatever those things were. That adds to the mystery of the Doctor due to the stuff that he has got hidden deep within the TARDIS and caused the audience who wonder what he’s actually like when he goes deep inside the TARDIS and he’s truly alone.
I don’t think this is the worst episode ever but a dud due to wasted potential.
ouch that HMV joke hurt 😔
People can hate on series 7 but it’s in my top 5 best series
Casually ending the episode with an admission of not paying the TV license...
Its the bbc, No price of admission... apart from the "T.V license"
Do like this episode tbf like seeing more of the tardis
“It’s the BBC, there’s no price of admission.”
There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
this is one of my favorites, i don;t really get why ppl don't like it
In this episode, the Doctor went into psycho mode.
this episode is despised??? I think it's a masterpiece.
I always heard good things about this episode.