The Untold History Of Carroll Shelby’s Secret DeTomaso Pantera | G.A.S Extreme Customs
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- Beau Boeckmann made history when he bought Carroll Shelby’s engineless DeTomaso Pantera at an auction for $226,000.
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the detomaso pantera is one of the best looking cars ever made, but its a shame most people have never heard of this car or think its a kit car
My dad had an early 72 with the chrome bumper. It was a real head-turner. It was white with black on the engine deck cover. He sold it to buy a new 308GTB. I miss that Pantera.
The pantera is hands down one of my favorite cars along with the gt40. I remember finding a descent one in 98 that i came close to buying. Such a beautiful car. I think the idea of supercar looks with american v8 is a great combo. Briklin tried but didnt quite hit the mark.
Those wheel arches are hideous
Although a car guy I wasn't aware of Panteras either until I saw a Mangusta for sale at Road America years ago. I ended up buying it and hanging out with many awesome Pantera owners.
Jay Leno has a beautiful blue 1971 De Tomaso Pantera, just an awesome car.
As a mechanic at Pete Shaver Lincoln Mercury in Hammond,IN. in the early 70's I was there when Pete flew to NY to bring back one of the first DeTomaso Panteras . Had a 351 Ford Cleveland engine with a 5 speed manual trans . So sweet .
I was in college and the local Lincoln dealer sold them for $10,500,00, always wanted one and still do.
I knew this car, very well !!! Because it was going to be mine !!! In the 90s I worked as the Asst. Parts Manager in a Dodge Dealership in San Fernando, CA... It was called, Murphy/Shelby Dodge !!! Where this car was for 6 or 7 years that I worked there !!! We had the Car in exhibition in the Showroom Floor !!! After 3 years of me working there, the Dealership General Manager wanted Cars that could be sold in the Showroom Floor !!! So we moved the Car to the Mechanical side of the Shop !!! It was funny that the Mechanics that were asked to get the Car running were unsuccessful in doing so !!! I am a Mopar Muscle Car Head and have never liked or even looked at the Ford Product !!! Except for the 1970 to 1974 Ford Pantera Detomasos !!! They have always have had a special spot in my heart !!! Well I have had my eye on this Car for 3 years !!! And went and checked it out while it was on a hoist and saw the whole underside of this Car !!! I also noticed that the Mechanic that was working on this Car ordered Motorcraft Sparkplugs for a 351 Cleveland Engine !!! And then I spotted the Sparkplugs that came out of this Car, and they happened to be Champion RN9YCs ??? I said to myself a Mopar Plug in a Pantera ??? It can't be ??? I have those plugs in stock in my Parts Department !!! So, I grabbed a set of 8 plugs !!! I measured the gap on the plugs that came out of the Car and I believe it was .28 to .30 if I'm not mistaken !!! I regapped the new plugs that were .34 or .36, to the gap that was on the plugs that came out of the Car !!! At the same time I also got a flashlight and checked the engine out, till I found the engine casting number and The Mighty Chrysler Pentastar !!! It was I needed to see !!! I dropped the Car down on the hoist put the Mopar plugs in the engine !!! I tried turning the engine over that happened to be on a battery charger charging the battery !!! Unsuccessfully, like the luck that the Mechanic that working on it, had !!! I went in the Parts Department again and grabbed a brand new Dodge Diesel Truck Battery !!! And went back to the Car and installed the Battery !!! I sat in the Car and turned the ignition !!! And Viola !!! Bam, it fired up !!! It sound like a Pissed off Devil !!! I was shaking in joy and pride, that I was the one that figured out the formula to fire this Car up and had it running !!! I drove it to another lot where we kept some odd and end cars and a Boston Whaler that belong to Bill Murphy (the other Co-Owner of the Dealership) !!! I stashed the Car !!! The next day, I ordered a Top of the Line Car Cover for it and it went to sleep for another 2 to 3 years !!! Till I propersitioned Pops( that is what I used to call Carroll Shelby) !!! And took him to the lot and show him the Car !!! And told him that I ran the VIN Number with the DMV and the Car came out to registered to him and Peterson Museum !!! He kinda recalled but, with so many Cars in his memory !!! The Car didn't really mean much to him !!! That is when him and I made a Deal on the Car, and that I was going to buy it for $15,000.00 dollars, which in 3 or 4 days the Business Office Manager was to take out $500.00 out of my paycheck as the first payment for the Car !!! I was in 7th Heaven !!! Pops, instructed me to call a man named JL at Shelby Enterprises in Gardena and only speak to him !!! It turned out that JL, was Carroll Shelby's right hand man and was the man that oversees everything in the Gardena Shelby Facility !!! The following day, I called JL, and asked him to please locate the paperwork and title of the White Pantera ??? He immediately replied, NO !!! And questioned if I was crazy ??? I answered no sir, and told him that Pops and I made a Deal and that I was buying the Car !!! Mind you, I have had that Car stashed under a Car Cover for 3+ years and every so often, I would go sit in it and fire it up !!! I would literally get my adrenaline fix for the day and would go back to work !!! For 3+ years, I did that !!! I even had the thought of just driving or having the Car towed to my house, because nobody knew anything about this Car !!! But, I am not a thief and I knew if I ever had a chance of buying this Car ??? That, I would be blowing it if I did that !!! So, I never did that !!! So, when I made the phone call to JL, I kinda blew it anyway !!! Because the very next day !!! There was a Car Transporter Driver that came straight to my Parts Department with instructions to get me and to have me take him to the Car !!! That day my heart sank and I as I watched my Dream Chrysler Powered Pantera get loaded in the Simi-Truck Car Transporter and drive away !!! I lost a part of my heart !!! My eyes actually watered and I said to myself !!! It probably was not meant to be !!! And now that I saw this video !!! I am haunted again by this Car !!! And again my eyes are watering !!! Damn it !!! This Car Was Mine !!! Damn It !!!
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After the 500 .00 down payment I would of taken the car home.
@@dash4191 Today, I am kicking my self in the ass for not being a thief !!! That Car was mine !!! Heart and Soul !!! Carroll Shelby (Pops) approved !!! JL, interfered !!! Granted, he was just an employee and was looking out for Pops best interest !!! I do have a clean conscience, and self confirmation that I am not a Thief !!! That Car could have been and probably should have been in my garage, easy 5 years before this video, story and Car came to light !!! Damnit !!! 😢😭,. Deep Down Inside, I am in Peace... I have my 70 'Cuda, 71 Roadrunner, and my 68 Dodge Dart GTS !!! What More can a Man ask for !!! Happy, Grateful and Peace of Mind 🙏🙏🙏
@@lacycoosbmx I dont see why you would consider yourself a theif when $500.00 were taken from your pay as a down payment. The car was yours, and you had every right to take it home, period. Never let a car of high value that belongs to you sit in another mans garage. I had a similar experience with a Chevy 55 Belair coupe when I was 18 years of age, back in 1986. The car was 100% mine, I made the stupid mistake of leaving it in someones backyard a mile away from where I lived. 6 months later the car was gone, stolen. Me and my girlfriend at that time had spent every penny we had in restoring that car. Until this day, I feel the pain of loosing that car. Lesson learned.
God and I know that I should have done exactly that !!! But, I actually told Pops that the Car was stay parked where it was at till I paid it off or that parking spot was needed for something else !!! A Car Dealer and Huge Businessman, made me Cry by telling me that the Stupid Title means nothing !!! That I should've take it home and respectfully made my payments !!! And later on, file a lost Title with the DMV !!! That is exactly, when my eyes opened up and poured !!! The knowledge of certain little iffy things (could be within the law) that some people know ??? Never ceases to amaze me !!! Damn, I F√©k up !!! Now, Pops is Gone and Resting in Peace and I am Rolling in my Grave, that I haven't even gotten to yet !!! What a Traumatic Loss that this Car has become !!! 💔👎 Now, I feel like Crap, again !!!
Big Build Up then we don't get to see the Pantera on the track or the streets, BUMMER ENDING to a Sweet Video!!!
I think I heard a soft Carol Shelby chuckle roll out of the ethereal plane when that newly installed engine fired up... 👍😎👍
I suddenly remembered Ken Miles and Carroll Shelby's relationship, I just can't forget they are the great ones of history.
(sorry for my bad english huhu I'm still learning)
The Daytona Coupe was my absolute favorite. Planning to buy a factory five replica very soon. He did make some bone-dogs in the 80's, but many of his brain-children were the most iconic sports cars of the 20th century.
yepper on of my dream cars also, i would take it over the gt40
@@edwardmylnychuk5774 I dont know if I would take that over a GT40, but it gives a close competition. Hard life choices. Maybe some day I'll be lucky enough to have to make such a desision.
@@tedcabana i dont like the doors on the gt40 or lack of any trunk type space, looks wise they are both one of my favs
@@edwardmylnychuk5774 the Daytona coupe is a Beautiful streamline Racecar the FFR Daytona Coupe snap-on built for Joey lagarno is a work of art. I like the FFR 818c but I would put in a Subaru EZ 30 with a side mount Supercharger and tune length headers that would be a great Car to Drive.
The pantera and gt40 were both beautiful and fast
Homeboy was driftin' @ 3:18 LOL!!
Back in the early 90s, when Shelby was starting to build the continuation Cobras with inmates to fund the Series 1 project I got to take a tour of the shop at the skunkworks by the Rio. I saw this Pantera over in the corner. It had the engine in it. It was a 351C with twin turbos and a fabricated blow through air box. couldn't see what it had for carburation. I was told it was a test mule for another project and to please not take any pictures of it.
When did you see it?
This car had a twin turbo Dodge 360 and that appears to be what they put back into it...
I saw that car at Shelby, in Gardena-CA, when I was starting to work on The Series 1 project...and it had the Twin Turbo motor in it...and it sounded soooo sweet. And they were getting the place ready for 75th Birthday also. Plus I have met and talked to the man on several occasions.
Highly under appreciated classic, should start to grow in value.
Shut up!! I'm trying to buy one
Mad Mike was like, "you know what this thing needs? A TV screen in the exhaust."
Missed the whole 80’s collaboration with Chrysler. The GLH, GLHS, Shelby Charger, and so on. Not cool V8’s, but still Shelby cars.
Always skip these, not v8s. I have a csxt and 2 Shelby chargers
I've always loved Panteras in the body that Shelby mongusta with a wide body looks beautiful! I hope it runs as good as it looks! I always find over those vehicles
same here :)
Wish they would have spent more time showing us how the engine was fitted.
I saw one of the original pantera's at a shelby auction in Newport Beach ,California that was to benefit the shelby heart foundation .....
I walked past it thinking it was a Lamborghini but went back to read the window info
It was one of 12 panteras given to shelby to homogalize for Ford not Chrysler and yes it had those same stress cracks on the rear spoiler but still had the original Ford motor with twin turbos however with the Vietnam war going on it was decided that the target market of younger males was dealing with the draft and war protests so the project was cancelled
Along with the one test car there were 11 untitled and unregistered new De Temoso panteras parked right next to it with many other test bed autos
Auction was in 1998 called it shelby's garage sale
Saw a Pantera and Corvette parked side by side and surprised the Pantera looked 1/2 as big...
Carrol shelby will be proud of u two n all you guys staff.Nice.Rest in peace Mr.Shelby.
I remember reading about this car and the twin turbo 360 cubic inch NASCAR V8 Mopar V8 that is and I always wondered what happened to the car. If I dig around I can probably find the magazine article. It was in Hot rod magazine. I do remember that super cool!
there better be a part 2, engine in running.
Insane find, I’d be interested in seeing it in action
Perhaps not too many knew De Tomaso and Shelby had some fall out. The predecessor was named Mangusta. Is Mongoose in English. What Mongoose eats? And who is the maker of snake cars? Can you link the both together?
There was an article written about this car way back when. It had over heating problems and they removed motor because of the epaulets. IT was after all a chrysler experimental car. EPA rules only allowed so many days of use then it had to be made inoperable.
At the NYC auto show at least 20 years ago i saw a silver Pantera with twin turbos feeding a full sized blower ! talk about Cool !
AWESOME ENGINE with AWESOME SOUNDS!! Only a TRUE AFFICIONADO of FINE AUTOMOBILES(like SHELBY, DETOMASO and IACOCCA) can bring a concept to LIFE like this!! It shows their APPRECIATION and GENIUS!! Molto BELLISIMO, SI!!?? IT'S A THING OF BEAUTY!! ANDIAMO!!
1:03 YOU SAID 80s and then kicked in the Synthwave! That was the BEST!!
What's that beat or song
That Pantera is awsome ❤️...Love the music..wonder who is the artist?
yes great music ! The artist please....
I read somewhere that Carroll Shelby and Gale Banks built a twin turbo Mopar engine in a Panterra.
Cyberpunk 2077's Quadra V8 is based heavily on this amazing design.
That makes sense actually, and you mean quadra VTech. Cause they made two quadras, type 66 and VTech
was there a follow up video/ episode ?
I was also wondering about that. What engine did they put in?
This model of car is something I would give almost anything to own, Doesn't even have to be his it could just be a stock one That's in semi decent condition that still runs And I would take it in a heartbeat
Pantera's are readily available. They made them for decades. Not in huge numbers, but if you want one, it is achievable.
Very informative video. So glad this was suggested. A bit of American super car history.
Magic Mike!.... hey bud no kick ass stereo in this one, k? The exhaust is the music.
Beau, wr need ALL the history and info and anything you've got on this.
I'm always taken aback by the history that must come before these things. WE ALL KNOW who Shelby is. If you clicked this video you are interested in the car not the history you know. If someone doesn't know the name of Carroll Shelby the odds of them clicking on a DeTomaso video are next to nil. I say get on with it and rid us of the histrionics. They serve NO purpose and bloat the video.
Maybe an added info video. Check out dennis collins buying the world's fastest pantera as told by it's driver and the ritual a$$ whooping of carrol shelby's race team at lyme rock. Could be the inspiration to this car. As it's said, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Where is the second part of this video? It appears the thing was released a year ago
Great design!
I heard it was a twin turbo 340 in the day
Thanks for the horsepower and torque figures. And all the other information lacking from this video.
20 years ago, a OLD nascar engine builder shop burned, in the rubble i found a HALF GONE Shelby intake for a SMALL BLOCK CHEVY. I asked the old man what was i holding, he tole me Ahelby did a xollaberation with chevy once. And did 30 of these SHELBY on CHEVY engines.... (The back half was melted, i THINK it was acrapped with the rest if the junk intakea). Even sadder there was. 427 SOHC with multiple intake systems, MANY hemis, and shit we never heard of... All gone.
Looks so much like the Lansia Stratus from the side!!! Wow it really confused me for a while!
what is a Lansia Stratus ???
@@silvanadaltin180 1970 Lancia Stratos HF 0
@@silvanadaltin180 2m€ rally car
Panteras were made and sold for 30 years...
Shelby could have auditioned for the drill instructor role in FULL METAL JACKET. He sort of has that chutzpah.
How do the turbos feed the carb? I see where they go into what looks like a intercooler, but no plumbing to the carburetor.
The carb is at the turbo air inlet, that feeds air through a custom intake manifold.
It's a pull through system like a 1962 Olds Jetfire...
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Is there any more information on the engine? Is it an FE?
It had a 360 ci crysler hemi!
robertpolicastro1 ....that's blasphemous, there should be a FORD motor powering that car....
Dodge 340/360 twin turbos. It's a pull through system like a 1962 Olds Jetfire...
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The SynthWave hit good ... I almost have enough for a Pantera, but the prices keep going up -- ha ha!
BEATIFUL DESIGN
Was there a part 2?
This guy makes it sound like Shelby made all of the cobra himself but he didn't as he used a British AC ace chassis.
Shelby bought the remaining AC parts inventory after bankruptcy and built "AC" replicas.
It’s funny that they repeatedly seem to forget that both the cobra and the gt40 wouldn’t have been off the ground if not for British engineering.
@@artfiend75 yes your right as LOLA created the GT40 CHASSIS, EVERYTHING is American to Americans.
@@adamweston4152 that’s correct sir, along with the first, I think 3/4 iterations where also redeveloped by British engineers as the Americans couldn’t get it running correctly, we did although not get it quite right. But before the Americans did get it right and make it completely American built.
289 Cobras were AC bodies and frames and ridiculous transverse leaf spring front suspension. However 427 Cobras only shared a very similar body to the 289 cars. It is also true that the first 289 powered GT40 were Lola built chassis with Ford engine and Ford contract built in the US trans axle. However once again after the 289 car proved to be underpowered for some tracks Ford took the lessons from Lola and with input from Carrol Shelby and his crew built the 427 powered GT40 with Shelby. Or vica versa as it depends on how you look at it. The GT40 only ever happened because of Ford money and massive research and development ability but the package as a whole was conceptualized by Shelby's business and ultimately produced because of there vision, experience and ability. As a side note a 427 powered Shelby Daytona coupe would completely obliterate a Pantera on all but the shortest tightest of race tracks as would a GT40 as well.
If you've got the money then that's a great buy!
Cual es el nombre del tema en el primer minuto
When do we get to see it in action?
OMG! It's the pimp my ride crew!
The detomaso was the exotic ford gt.
Who did the music at 1:05?
Did you ever find this out? i'm still looking! Awesome track!
@@jameshope1574 I'm still looking
@@bsmith9316 timecop1983 moving on
It's the Corvette ahead of it's time and what a fiero could have been
Beautifull car awesome
I had a detamaso mangusta. I wonder how it differed from the detamaso pantera.
The frame
How is this the only video where is the next video I have to see more?!?!
Awesome, Rebuild !!
What song starts playing at 1:05?
Wow beutifull car
I believe I watched a show of gas monkey garage and he built one pantera from the 70s ? with a big mid engine in it also they both very nice cars
IMO, the second best looking car, the first being the GT40.
Was waiting for Xibit to show up and say the Pantera had been officially PIMPED
Anyone know where the rest of this video is? Was it a TV show and this is part of an episode? Why is this showing up on a UK channel and Ive never heard of it in the US??
Was wondering where matchbox got the Pantera from.
You needed some “Z” guys to help you put that engine in😅. They put engine and transmissions in all the time😎 they long as hell.
I have an OE 1971 Hand Made Push Button. i love mine!
How many cars does this Man have hidden, pretty soon someone's gonna find Carrols car that's the meaning of life or something
It's numberplate will say 42.
Timecop1983 Moving On is the song, but it sounds better in this video IMO
What's that beat or song starting at 1:05
Timecop1983 moving on
I have a scale model in white of this from when I was a kid
Wow!! What a gorgeous car.
All foreplay and no happy ending
They should have made the viper a mid engine car.
That's what I was thinking... and light enough it only needed a V8 instead of a V10...
The Mangusta was as raw as a kit car and if you ever drove or rode in a Pantera and considered that a refined machine. Ha Ha. Well compared to the 'Gus' it was, some what. They were small cars like VW bugs with hi-pro V-8s where a back seat usually goes. Too bad De Tomaso couldn't deliver enough cars to the Link-Merc dealers to keep the Deuce (Henry Ford II) happy.
You really should have touch upon Iacocca's falling out with Henry Ford the 2nd that lead to him being the executive at Chrystler that lead to the development of the Viper. The gas crisis lead Ford needing to make a new fuel efficient car and Iacocca wanted to bring the Escort from Ford Europe over as it was the best selling compact car year in and year out over there, and Henry refused to admit that Ford Europe had a beat them to the punch (by a whole decade at that) and instead stubbornly developed a whole new car from the ground up, the Pinto...and we all know how that ended.
Awesome 😎👍
Badass why the kept quiet looks like Lamborghini
Looks like Panteras... made for 30 years...
Missed it
What engine did they put in it?
A twin turbo Dodge 360 back in it now... forever...
darnnnnnnnnnnn what a Beautiful car!!!
The guy with the hat, was he on pimp my ride?
anyone know the synthwave track?
Alejandro DeTomaso was Argentinian, not Italian. His main manufacturing company was in Italy though. He was not an executive at De Tomaso, he was The Owner and Founder of his own company: De Tomaso ( founded in 1959 ). You will notice that on the original DeTomasos, the trademark emblem are the colors of the Argentinian flag: Light blue and white. You can see that in this video too, it appears at 1:50, front hood . The logo also appeared in the wheel caps and steering wheel. Italians like to brag its an Italian car, and americans call it the american supercar, but the beast is Argentine. Shelby worked with him, but two big egos are too big egos, and their relationship soured quickly, each going their own way...Sorry. Alejandro was very proud of mentioning that this was an Argentine car, it came into fruition long after Shelby had been gone, which was even way before the De Tomaso Mangusta came into existance.... DeTomaso took over Maserati (bought the holding) too, in the early 1970s when Maserati was bankrupt and made it a profitable, sustainable company until he sold the holding. He was always in charge of his own founding company De Tomaso, throughout its entire existence up until 1993 when his son took over. I do know they also had an affair with Daihatsu too, when his son took over, although not sure to what extent though. His cars are perhaps even more sought out today than when they came out, great design but had some bugs, pretty much like any supercar of that era, although perhaps less bugs than the average super car of that era.
Shelby had a shot at revamping his business enemy car.., long after the original car hit the market. He was not the creator of this car.
The Detomaso Pantera, is an Alejandro Detomaso brain child. Period.
He said he was Argentinian.. You don't listen. Both the Mangusta and Pantera were team design efforts. The principal Italian designer also did the Fiat X19 and even the Innocenti. Many design elements are shared, but your facts are sloppy. Name the designers... All of them. Give credit where it is due. One was American btw.
@@andykerr3803 -
The great Tom Tjaarda was the American responsible for the Pantera's now iconic shape.
@@monsieurcommissaire1628 He was one of 3 designers, you see the influence of the Mangusta, but yes, I believe the American gave it a snappier look all over 👍
@@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv Detomaso was born July 1928 in Buenos Aires, and raised in Argentina, of inmigrant descent. With your skewed view- criteria, 90% of Argentinians are not Argentinians, but rather Italians or of other European nationality, including myself. You should write a letter to the United Nations comitee expressing this international injustice and request that almost all Argentinian nationals, and Argentina, to be rebaptized from now on, Italy número 2.
So, following your logic, is Bugatti an Italian company? Because Ettore Bugatti was Italian, and the first Bugattis were all designed by him...
Anyway, If Italians(not just Italians) consider De Tomaso cars to be Italian, there are valid reasons:
1- The company is located in Italy. Alejandro De Tomaso knew very well that only in Modena he could create such cars.
2- Chassis are designed by the Italian engineer Gianpaolo Dallara.
3- The Body was by Italian design center Ghia (Giugiaro for the Mangusta and Tom Tjaarda for the Pantera).
4- Assembled line was in Turin, at the Vignale factory.
But the Engine is a Ford.
So, maybe it's not a 100% Italian car, but sure not an Argentine car.
Question: What is the name of the instrumental track that is being played in the background? March 16, 2024. USA.
A Mythical Beast
name of the song at minute 1.09 🙏 please
Why are the turbo's not plumbed up to the carb ? 🤔
Well, it's a pull through system like a 1962 Olds Jetfire...
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Most early turbo motors were draw through rather than blow through, it was a simple setup that negated the need to increase fuel pressure as boost pressure rose. Not good for turbo longevity though.
@@paulzx10 - Superchargers are draw through so they simply did the same thing with turbos for the first 75 years...
Somewhere in eternity, you can sure as hell bet that Alejandro DeTomaso is needling his old frenemy Shelby for benchmarking his Pantera for the Dodge Viper
What have you guys done?
Hey boys I read the original story in Car Craft magazine years ago. The Pantera actually had a twin turbo 340.
Ah yes my favourite Lampadati Viseris
This car should be a DLC for Cyberpunk 2077
Quadra
Awesome!
All is well
Are these the guys from pimp my ride???
Where's the section on the track???????
We have really destroyed cars with bureaucracy safety and the subscription model. Everything about this car is simple enough to produce cheaper than today's cars, and beautiful enough to sell better than today's cars. But instead they make a corvette cost as much as a house
Since Carroll's not here to validate the story. I'm adding a grain of salt.
I tried skipping through this reality tv show to find some content. But apparently missed it.