I lived under a rock my whole life, only heard of this game 2 years ago. When I started playing I fell in love with it, however that is when all my friends stopped playing.
Me and like 8 of my friends have been playing since around 2018 and all of us have quit the game so I think Overwatch and how it’s changed just hasn’t been fun for older players
I think what people don’t understand when people say overwatch is a dead is that they mean the soul of the game is dead. Overwatch generates no hype at all and the player base is in a war fighting over what format of the game is better because the devs are terrible at decision making. The only reason people still like overwatch is because people are attached to these characters and the story of the game not the gameplay itself, but even then they have not done anything with these characters in months. Overwatch is a stain among the gaming community as a whole and is considered dead by many. Marvel Rivals is just better
I hate to break it to you but its making tons of money every new season. No matter how much ppl love to making COD/OW/Fortnite their punching bag it still generates a shit ton of revenue because the average player is enjoying those games and don't care about internet hate.
Hey I swear I’ve heard this one before…as a fan of both TF2 and Overwatch it seems so familiar…lackluster updates…less and less being added for every update…ignoring blatant problems while doubling down on the monetization options…I swear I’ve seen this before, I just can’t put my finger on it lol
Yes I 100% agree with this statement. Fuck Activision Blizzard... or this case Microsoft because they are technically in charge ever since the whole buyout... ok mabye just the Activision Blizzard section of Microsoft in general. Yeah, fuck the Activision Blizzard section of Microsoft in general.
It’s always been about the fact that all these game companies have forgotten about that fact that games are made to feel fun and not about focusing on money for a product.
The only thing that keeps the game relevant in pop culture to this day, otherwise we would have forgot that it even existed a week after Overwatch 2’s launch.
Remember when Overwatch 2 initially released, the official Twitter account said in their bio: “Overwatch, but with a 2” They were blatantly telling us it’s the same exact game
I mean, comparatively I dont think thats true. Nearly all of Blizzards current releases are doing miles worse then they used to. Sure you had some knobs buy diablo 4 but even a lot of them are now turned off from blizzard products once they realized how shallow it was.
Just as a correction. You CAN buy all skins with credits, with the exception of shop ones. The reason it says the gold premium coins is you dont have enough credits and can't buy more of those, and so you could, theoretically, always have enough (if you buy more gold ones)
If someone switches character to counter play you, then you're the real winner. If a player keeps targeting you and not the real threat, you're the real winner. Kept getting targeted, and it lead my team to victory because they are waisting their resources on me rather than my teammates.
It died when the "2" was added. Ive seen groups of people talking about how they can barely able to afford the skins, but when asked why buy them when it will hurt them financially, their response is "i cant help it, I gotta have it"
Addiction, I've seen it before. They know something is wrong, they know they shouldn't buy them, but they're addicted, they've been looped into Blizzard's trap, and they feel they *need* it. Problems can only begin to be fixed when they acknowledge that they have a problem, which they seem to realize. Now they need to take that first step and practice self-restraint by *not* buying the new skin. It'll take effort, they'll be tempted, but they have to if they don't want to keep shoveling Blizzard money.
I find it still absurd that game companies are effectively able to promise something massive, like a large-scale game mode, and just, never really release it
At that point, if someone is getting suckered into spending $100 in a single instance on in-game items, they really need help, that's not normal, nor the sign of someone with healthy spending habits.
You don't own a digital game. You own a permission slip to use their product that they can take away at any time for no reason. It says this in the TOS of digital games.
I mean I can save coins to buy one battlepass for free for maybe 2 battlepasses. Literally now I saved enough to buy 2 battlepass for free. That's better than most battlepass systsems where the only means to get it is to buy it with real money
@cyfertea8707 most games with battlepasses will award you enough ingame currency to buy the next one and even have more left over or ave ways to earn the currency ingame. In OW2 you can save up the currency from 2 passes yes, but its a 3 for the price of 2 model, esspecially since they removed coins from weekly challenges
@@cyfertea8707 E.G. Rainbow 6 siege: you pay 10 euros for the BP, but get coins worth 15 euros back. spend them how you like, but you could buy one BP and just keep on buying every other Pass from there on out. Fortnite does that as well, even Apex used to do it like that (idk if thats still right nowadays, havent played it in a good year)
To be fair, blaming the devs for the scrapped PvE or the skin prices is just wrong. It was an upper management issue from the very beginning. Since the cancellation multiple people who have worked on OW2 mentioned how they barely got any resources for the additional content, got weird requests from management that they sometimes just changed their mind on AFTER the team has finalized it. And amidst all of this, they had meet, at times, absurd profit quotas.
@@KingOfKazoos It's not an odd design choice, it's purpose is to make you think you have to buy those skins so you will cave in and open your wallet. By the time you complain about it they've already gotten at least 20 quid out of you and your argument about it being unfair that they can only be bought with real money becomes invalidated when a fan points this out to defend them. It's all psychological warfare and deception with Live Service games.
This game already died when Marvel Rivals hit the scene. Edit: Or a better way of saying: it outgrowed Overwatch 2 in terms of popularity but the game is overall not dead because of MR & is just only outgrowed.
OW night was very common with my family. We'd get on our respective devices and kick some ass. When it became free, I was so excited to play OW2 with my bf, only to find out you have to grind to get a majority of the characters. Not new heros that come out, but old preexisting ones such as Junkrat. It's hard because I know his general play style, I know which character he'd connect the most with, but we have to grind through 100 or so matches as Genji if he wants it, and the community is not very gentle to new players who are figuring out how to play. The hate we'd receive was atrocious at best.
It breaks my heart that I'll never get the "OW?" text from my family again or hear my mom go, "Good luck with that," as she resed us in the middle of a battle. Maybe we'll find a new game to fill that hole and we can all play, but still.
@@karman9585yall should definitely try Marvel Rivals! I loved Overwatch 1 and it has filled that void personally plus all of the characters are unlocked from the start!
I knew about OW1 but got into it when it became free and started playing for the sole reason to play with my friends. I got super into it and they left mostly around season 5 to 6. Within the first couple seasons I got more hours on Ow2 than my friends did who started Ow1. Now I really want to quit (I havent touched the game in like half a month) because the balance sucks and 5v5 is so much worse than 6v6 (especially for tanks) Watching Ow1 gameplay shows a night and day difference especially when it comes to how content creators enjoyed it. A lot of the content creators I watch now are really depressed and not having fun with the game, while in overwatch 1 even during double shield meta, they still had the possibility of being happy while playing the game seriously. Now half of the time they either play quickplay, mindlessly grind ranked with a it is what it is mentality, or play other games.
The story mode was never going to be single player 😂 Still shitty that they just abandoned it though especially after they dared to charge money for the 3 terrible missions they did create, and then got surprised when it didn't sell well.
@sortascouseace can agree, caved in to buy it after the noise.. played through with my friend, and then, what was left? Play the mission as someone else?
Same reason PVP died in World of Warcraft; Blizzard/Activision focused the game on the hardcore gamers, then the casual gamers that make up 95.999% of your player base.
The balance problem is happening because they use [misleading] data to make their decisions. (Its not speculation, they've said it before and currently have a job opening that requires "data driven decision-making")
14:30 you actually can buy epics and legendarys, you can complete the bp and get the credits for free, you can also do quests to earn them, and after a bit you can buy any skin from ow1
A lot of people don't appreciate that at the end of the day you don't have to pay for any of the new characters they drop you don't have to pay for anything that actually affects gameplay like guns in call of duty you only have to pay for skins just look at rainbow six siege you literally have to buy the new operators when they come out. I think OverWatch is one of the most unique and fun shooter games out there and we should be grateful that it even exists at all and still has a healthy player base
What bothered me mostly was cause they stopped pushing out content saying “oh don’t worry we’re working on overwatch 2, just hang on “ And I was like ok no worries then they said nvm in that developer update video I was just baffled. All that time grinding coins that I CANT use AND NOW everything is money involved for basic skins / reskins
My main problem with overwacth, is that in every game i play the damage characters deal something around 5k or even 7k if they have the most Kills, but the tanks almost everytime they have over 15k of damage dealth, the only reason they dont get the kills is because they hit slower than the damage characters so they just get the last shot to steal the kill
I played the original Overwatch back when it launched for maybe a year before I lost interest in the gameplay and the fandom drove me to dislike the game. I have not played Overwatch 2, I have no intentions of playing it, but sheesh, it sure has changed a lot. I kinda stopped caring enough to keep up with the game, so to see it go from Overwatch 1 with all that I remember of it, to now an in-game shop, like, five different currencies, all with different price points and flashy graphics, all of it kinda doesn't feel like the game anymore.
i haven't watched the video, i only read the title, before i watch it i wanna add: it's been dying for a while, all i've been hearing from a couple of years back is that the game is dying, how long does it really take for it to die?
After Blizzard screwed the fans over so many times, if this game ended up dying, nothing of value would be lost and Blizzard would end up getting even more backlash than usual!
As a Tf2 Player , Overwatch is a good game . I will always prefer tf2 , but overwatch as a game is very good as well . The problem with ow2 is Blizzard
Lol, in my country, I could eat lavish breakfasts and dinners for a week and have a bottle of fine wine at weekends on top of it, at the cost of one goddamn skin I wonder why there is still no legal action for that tripe they pulled off. They basically falsely advertised the game, they distributed the bad balance patch with agressive monetization as a new game, and they took the game that people payed money for away from their libraries. This is why "stop killing games" movement desparately needs to be supported by all EU citizens. Greed. Unmasked and shameless greed. At the cost of those who allow you to even exist as a corporation.
The monetization in Overwatch is nowhere near as bad as it could be. Tbh i could care less about cosmetic monetizing if it doesnt effect gameplay. Like having a cool skin is not a requirement to play the game.
This is a problem for a lot of games. Greedy companies just takes the soul out of the game and slowly kills it. You have Apex and Overwatch being two good examples.
who woulda guessed... ruining a good game "fixing" the game with a sequel no one asked for making said sequel as a complete cashgrab not fixing major issues, still lying for years about a PvE mode (not even mentioning all the in-company harassment and issues) ... would lead to a popular beloved game dying Overwatch ain't dead, it's just evolved into a hentai tab because that's the best thing it's used for now
Keep defending your tr4sh game !diot. That's why Blizzard is going to continue to walk all over you while Fortnite players actually get treated well and accommodated way more by the game devs
For me, OW2 feels less fun overall than OW, so I stopped playing. I still like watching content, but I miss the old gameplay and the more reasonable grind for skins.
13:08 statement is partly true, but mainly due to the balance team back then failed to adhere to the advice the community was trying to give. Like Brigitte for example, she wasn't too crazy except for the level of sustain she can provide with the AoE passive healing and the armor packs. Community tried to say Brigitte's sustain is too powerful, blizzard decided to nerf everything except the sustain. Same with double shield, blizzard nerfed pretty much everything EXCEPT THAT. Usually the community advice, especially the good advice tends to fall on deaf ears.
Game is very far from dead, game servers are still full and every patch day the servers are so full you have to sit in a queue. Game is dead to me though when i saw the skin prices
ive played overwatch since day one in 2016. i grinded and wasted so much of my time with that game that when OW2 was coming out i was so excited to play the pve, but the fact that it became worse and worse made me just stop playing this game entirely. its a complete ripoff
A lot of the balancing issues came from Overwatch 2 trying to appeal to the Esport crowd instead of casual gamers. What the E sports people find balanced doesn't mean fun, while what casual gamers find fun wouldn't exactly be balanced in some cases.
Yea Ana and Bap and Brig were all fine for me in gold at release but they got dumpstered now I have to run amock with Moira who the high ranks deem harmless lol
The funny thing about counter picking, i play vs ai alot and I notice it will sometimes do 2 soldiers or 2 meis when our team cant do that. Plus ive had the ai tank swap to zarya when I was dva lol
At this point, I firmly believe that some billionaire kids got themselves addicted to video games to the point of self-sabotaging (despawning themselves, wasting the company's money on video games, refusing to marry and do normal things because of video games). That billionaire is on a quest to acquire all things video games to ruin it as an act of revenge against this industry. The movie industry is just collateral damage.
it died the day they announced PVE is canceled. PVE, in custom games and vs AI is all you have. Its ... kinda boring. I refuse to pay for "the missions", which they said would be first of many FREE updates.
I bought Overwatch back when it cost money. It is absolutely nutter butters that a company like Blizzard can sell you a game then later replace the game you bought with a steaming pile of horse dung. Like.... Why is this legal? I've been robbed of the game I purchased. This isn't the game I bought. This. This is a bad game. I bought a good game.
Because you don't really own games digitally. You basically own a license to use it that they can revoke at any time for any reason. Most TOS will state that. That's why the move to digital only for so many studios should concern people.
lmao this game will never die unless the community decides to leave an for sum reason in 2024 a community for a game would know the game is shit yet still would play the game an still put 1,000s of dollars in these people pockets its insane
I’ve played it a few times, its fine. I didn’t in particularly like playing when my friends where offline. And at some point I just went to tf2. Which is really a fun game with and without fruends
The white credits can be used to acquire rarer skins but it takes more credits than what is the listed gold credit price. I.E. 1000 gold credit skin needs 1500 white credits to unlock. Unfortunately there are a number of skins that are exempt.
I loved Overwatch until they decided to nerf Mercy, ruins Orisa's skills and they decided to charge so much money for everything. I also I stopped playing because of my internet service, which also sucks.
As a overwatch 1 player I honestly agree with a lot of points made during this video. I am mainly angry at the whole company and the development team: Not only did they decide to base ow2 mainly on the PvE, they downright lied or should I say "Cancelled due to unforeseen consequences" (my arse) they also ruined everything that the game had going for it in the first game! I remember very vividly that the ow1 team was actually one of the best teams in it's time, it became my favourite development team because they actually CARED, Jeff Kaplan was by far the best developer, I remember very well that he engaged with players on twitter and other platforms. He genuinely seemed like he liked his game, which is a trait that the new team does not have whatsoever for some goddamn reason???? They refuse to listen to anybody but the 'pro' players who just seem to complain about everything, if they can't find a problem in the game they just decide to nerf/buff a hero that DEFINETLY DOES NOT NEED??? They keep locking everything behind a pay wall?? They ruin every part of the game and yet they do not stop and think for just a second: "Hm maybe the fans are right? Maybe we are doing something wrong?" NO! They keep ignoring the fans need I need to remind that they promised ow1 players 'compensation' for deleting ow1 and making the new one free to play, they made it seem like the players would actually get something good that would basically give the players from ow1 money's worth... The moment I realised I only received 2 crappy skins and a weapon charm for literally having the hero edition base game bought was literally soul shattering and I'm sure I speak for so many other ow1 players that just realised they got crapped on. The main issue with the game now is the development team, the faster they realise that THEY REALLY ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF THE GAME, the faster they can make changes and become semi-respected than they are. But if I'm being honest? No matter what they do not everyone will forgive them, they have been acting immature for far to long and I'm sure many fans will not comeback ever. The only thing that keeps the game alive is it being free to play. Remember when we used to say Paladins was a direct copy of ow1? I'd rather play that game now than this forsaken new game. THAT'S how bad it is right now.
Just ignoring the drama and lies blizzard just blatantly told I've given the game a chance after 2 years of not playing It's an amazing game BUT it's way too easy to either be the team that absolutely stomps the other and just walks over them or be the team that can't seem to get an inch without everyone ulting at once The forced 3 roles is the problem IMO Let people decide how many tanks, DPS or heals they bring. Amazing flexibility, counter play, dynamic. That's the one thing it really misses from the original launch
@@waddledee8919 having a role queue and open queue doesn't fix the problem it just splits your players Longer wait times, fewer player pools. It's a lose lose.
@@waddledee8919 and to be clear, the game is balanced around the 2 dps 2 support 1 tank meta Having a playlist with any role combo is inherently going to be unbalanced and the lesser experience no matter what
I agree with most of this but the people saying rivals is already better are ridiculous imo, y’all are ignoring massive issues with that game just because you WANT it to better, not because it IS
You're right. *Overwatch 2* failed by recycling the original game and gutting the promised PvE content. Blizzard’s greed and laziness show in overpriced cosmetics and weak balancing. It’s not about innovation anymore; it’s a cash grab. The soul of the game is gone, and that’s why it feels dead.
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I lived under a rock my whole life, only heard of this game 2 years ago. When I started playing I fell in love with it, however that is when all my friends stopped playing.
No literally, I only play by myself now
Me and like 8 of my friends have been playing since around 2018 and all of us have quit the game so I think Overwatch and how it’s changed just hasn’t been fun for older players
yeah same, but i dont have any friends to begin with
you missed out brother. 2017 was a hell of a year
Me too. I find the game very fun, although I understand why is so hated nowadays. Empty promises really can damage the reputation of a game.
I think what people don’t understand when people say overwatch is a dead is that they mean the soul of the game is dead. Overwatch generates no hype at all and the player base is in a war fighting over what format of the game is better because the devs are terrible at decision making. The only reason people still like overwatch is because people are attached to these characters and the story of the game not the gameplay itself, but even then they have not done anything with these characters in months. Overwatch is a stain among the gaming community as a whole and is considered dead by many. Marvel Rivals is just better
Exactly this
Rivals made me feel like ow1 when i first played it. Its so much fun
I hate to break it to you but its making tons of money every new season. No matter how much ppl love to making COD/OW/Fortnite their punching bag it still generates a shit ton of revenue because the average player is enjoying those games and don't care about internet hate.
@@NicholasWolfwood002 EXACTLY.
You are just plain wrong lol
it is far from dead, people just hate it a lot
dead in terms of quality, and on the way in terms of player base
Queue time is more than 10 min in SEA. Sometimes 20++. Not high rank.
Lmao ikr??? Ow2 was always been a dead game since release like ffs
Facts
FAR from dead
"I don't mean to sound entitled" - no, DO sound entitled because after all the shit Blizzard pulled and promised we ARE entitled to it.
Hey I swear I’ve heard this one before…as a fan of both TF2 and Overwatch it seems so familiar…lackluster updates…less and less being added for every update…ignoring blatant problems while doubling down on the monetization options…I swear I’ve seen this before, I just can’t put my finger on it lol
@@anexplosiveenthusiast9315 we've come full circle
Yes I 100% agree with this statement.
Fuck Activision Blizzard... or this case Microsoft because they are technically in charge ever since the whole buyout... ok mabye just the Activision Blizzard section of Microsoft in general.
Yeah, fuck the Activision Blizzard section of Microsoft in general.
@@gachalordnoobie4911 oh absolutely 10¹⁰% agree
It’s always been about the fact that all these game companies have forgotten about that fact that games are made to feel fun and not about focusing on money for a product.
exactly.
Greed has swallowed them up and it reflects on the game itself.
The nsfw is still better than the game tbh
might I introduce to you to tf2 nsfw
I dont care if you like women.
Im just rock hard for big swole sweaty oiled up MEN
I dont really care if you like women
I just like MEN
The only thing that keeps the game relevant in pop culture to this day, otherwise we would have forgot that it even existed a week after Overwatch 2’s launch.
@@schizophreniagaming1187I applaud your honesty. You have a good day.
Remember when Overwatch 2 initially released, the official Twitter account said in their bio: “Overwatch, but with a 2”
They were blatantly telling us it’s the same exact game
everyone is ranting but everyone is still shoving blizzard money in their arses
Your comment is nonsensical
Yea sure
2016 is the last time i bought any blizzard product.
Yeah I did pay money for ow just for them to go to ow2 for free and it’s a worse game. Other than that I have never given these people money.
I mean, comparatively I dont think thats true. Nearly all of Blizzards current releases are doing miles worse then they used to.
Sure you had some knobs buy diablo 4 but even a lot of them are now turned off from blizzard products once they realized how shallow it was.
And the more people keep buying the more blizzard stays the same
Just as a correction. You CAN buy all skins with credits, with the exception of shop ones. The reason it says the gold premium coins is you dont have enough credits and can't buy more of those, and so you could, theoretically, always have enough (if you buy more gold ones)
Ah that makes sense, thanks for the correction!
But wouldn't that mean that venture and Juno wont have any legendary or epic skins for free since they didn't release with them?
YEAH NOW THAT IS A PRETTY RECENT CHANGE
@@devonpena1025That yas changed on season 2-3, more than a year ago
Sheen, this is 77th week in a row when you said that overwatch 2 died
Pahaha!! Finally someone who defends this game
The lootbox was nice bc I already had a majority of the skins and stuff from playing, so I basically always got all coins from boxes.
They should have left loot boxes but only the ones that you can't buy with your wallet
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT
If someone switches character to counter play you, then you're the real winner.
If a player keeps targeting you and not the real threat, you're the real winner.
Kept getting targeted, and it lead my team to victory because they are waisting their resources on me rather than my teammates.
It died when the "2" was added.
Ive seen groups of people talking about how they can barely able to afford the skins, but when asked why buy them when it will hurt them financially, their response is "i cant help it, I gotta have it"
They are dumb and the reason why the gaming Industry turned into this mess.
Addiction, I've seen it before. They know something is wrong, they know they shouldn't buy them, but they're addicted, they've been looped into Blizzard's trap, and they feel they *need* it.
Problems can only begin to be fixed when they acknowledge that they have a problem, which they seem to realize. Now they need to take that first step and practice self-restraint by *not* buying the new skin. It'll take effort, they'll be tempted, but they have to if they don't want to keep shoveling Blizzard money.
I find it still absurd that game companies are effectively able to promise something massive, like a large-scale game mode, and just, never really release it
When Marvel Rivals came out
I want everybody to look at the Lifegaurd bundle and think. It would be 100 dollars for those skins. It's not even worth the half price 55.
At that point, if someone is getting suckered into spending $100 in a single instance on in-game items, they really need help, that's not normal, nor the sign of someone with healthy spending habits.
I want my refund for ow
You don’t get to just take something, which I paid full price for, out of my hands
ToS EULA
You don't own a digital game. You own a permission slip to use their product that they can take away at any time for no reason. It says this in the TOS of digital games.
Every season someone says the game is dead then continues to play the game
On the monetization: dont forget the battle pass doesn't even reward enough coins to buy it again... like pretty much every other game does it
I mean I can save coins to buy one battlepass for free for maybe 2 battlepasses. Literally now I saved enough to buy 2 battlepass for free. That's better than most battlepass systsems where the only means to get it is to buy it with real money
@cyfertea8707 most games with battlepasses will award you enough ingame currency to buy the next one and even have more left over or ave ways to earn the currency ingame. In OW2 you can save up the currency from 2 passes yes, but its a 3 for the price of 2 model, esspecially since they removed coins from weekly challenges
Destiny doesn't even have the option.
@@cyfertea8707 E.G. Rainbow 6 siege: you pay 10 euros for the BP, but get coins worth 15 euros back. spend them how you like, but you could buy one BP and just keep on buying every other Pass from there on out. Fortnite does that as well, even Apex used to do it like that (idk if thats still right nowadays, havent played it in a good year)
To be fair, blaming the devs for the scrapped PvE or the skin prices is just wrong. It was an upper management issue from the very beginning. Since the cancellation multiple people who have worked on OW2 mentioned how they barely got any resources for the additional content, got weird requests from management that they sometimes just changed their mind on AFTER the team has finalized it. And amidst all of this, they had meet, at times, absurd profit quotas.
Credits can actually be used for higher tier skins, But it doesn't show the option UNTIL you have enough.
Yeah that was a mistake on my part, although bit of an odd design choice by them
@@KingOfKazoos It's not an odd design choice, it's purpose is to make you think you have to buy those skins so you will cave in and open your wallet.
By the time you complain about it they've already gotten at least 20 quid out of you and your argument about it being unfair that they can only be bought with real money becomes invalidated when a fan points this out to defend them.
It's all psychological warfare and deception with Live Service games.
They ruined Doomfist. I'll never forgive them.
The game may die, but the hentai will last forever...
This game already died when Marvel Rivals hit the scene.
Edit: Or a better way of saying: it outgrowed Overwatch 2 in terms of popularity but the game is overall not dead because of MR & is just only outgrowed.
OW night was very common with my family. We'd get on our respective devices and kick some ass. When it became free, I was so excited to play OW2 with my bf, only to find out you have to grind to get a majority of the characters. Not new heros that come out, but old preexisting ones such as Junkrat. It's hard because I know his general play style, I know which character he'd connect the most with, but we have to grind through 100 or so matches as Genji if he wants it, and the community is not very gentle to new players who are figuring out how to play. The hate we'd receive was atrocious at best.
It breaks my heart that I'll never get the "OW?" text from my family again or hear my mom go, "Good luck with that," as she resed us in the middle of a battle. Maybe we'll find a new game to fill that hole and we can all play, but still.
@@karman9585yall should definitely try Marvel Rivals! I loved Overwatch 1 and it has filled that void personally plus all of the characters are unlocked from the start!
A lot of people got mad and stopped playing after they shut down Overwatch. And the transfer skins and all problem. Aggressive monetization
People have been saying OW is dead for like 5 years now, still waiting
Very far from dead I feel the only people with skill issues say this
I knew about OW1 but got into it when it became free and started playing for the sole reason to play with my friends. I got super into it and they left mostly around season 5 to 6. Within the first couple seasons I got more hours on Ow2 than my friends did who started Ow1. Now I really want to quit (I havent touched the game in like half a month) because the balance sucks and 5v5 is so much worse than 6v6 (especially for tanks) Watching Ow1 gameplay shows a night and day difference especially when it comes to how content creators enjoyed it. A lot of the content creators I watch now are really depressed and not having fun with the game, while in overwatch 1 even during double shield meta, they still had the possibility of being happy while playing the game seriously. Now half of the time they either play quickplay, mindlessly grind ranked with a it is what it is mentality, or play other games.
bro "until it wasnt going to be anything at all" 3:30 is the best interpretation of my frustration when they said that
Ill NEVER forget overwatch. Its a better made game than Rivals. But ill be playing Rivals for the next 3 to 4000 hours because Blizzard can eat shit
The story mode was never going to be single player 😂
Still shitty that they just abandoned it though especially after they dared to charge money for the 3 terrible missions they did create, and then got surprised when it didn't sell well.
Missions are not that terrible, but they are clearly like first 3 tutorial missions in the story that's the problem and no talents.
@@TheTom20 they are, they have no Replayability at all. they are just archive missions but somehow worse.
@sortascouseace can agree, caved in to buy it after the noise.. played through with my friend, and then, what was left?
Play the mission as someone else?
It was a stillbirth. Dead before it didn’t deliver on its promises.
The weekly "Ow2 is dead" like bait,truly the only thing keep it alive lol
Same reason PVP died in World of Warcraft; Blizzard/Activision focused the game on the hardcore gamers, then the casual gamers that make up 95.999% of your player base.
8:41 so true it’s crazy making
I wish they had actually made something with pve, a pve overwatch game genuinely could of gone hard
The balance problem is happening because they use [misleading] data to make their decisions. (Its not speculation, they've said it before and currently have a job opening that requires "data driven decision-making")
Can we bring overwatch 1 back
14:30 you actually can buy epics and legendarys, you can complete the bp and get the credits for free, you can also do quests to earn them, and after a bit you can buy any skin from ow1
Wtf is bp
@@kojirosasaki8129 battle pass
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Wasn't it like 8 month for 1 legendary skin via the free route?
@@kojirosasaki8129 battlepass smh
its just going through what all competitive esports shooters go through inevitably
A lot of people don't appreciate that at the end of the day you don't have to pay for any of the new characters they drop you don't have to pay for anything that actually affects gameplay like guns in call of duty you only have to pay for skins just look at rainbow six siege you literally have to buy the new operators when they come out. I think OverWatch is one of the most unique and fun shooter games out there and we should be grateful that it even exists at all and still has a healthy player base
Bringing back Jeff kaplain and his original vision will fix everything, just like what’s happening with WoW
God I hope they do. He’s the only person that can save that sinking ship we call Overwatch 2.
What bothered me mostly was cause they stopped pushing out content saying “oh don’t worry we’re working on overwatch 2, just hang on “
And I was like ok no worries then they said nvm in that developer update video I was just baffled. All that time grinding coins that I CANT use AND NOW everything is money involved for basic skins / reskins
My main problem with overwacth, is that in every game i play the damage characters deal something around 5k or even 7k if they have the most Kills, but the tanks almost everytime they have over 15k of damage dealth, the only reason they dont get the kills is because they hit slower than the damage characters so they just get the last shot to steal the kill
They know they fucked up
Do they? 😂 What makes you say that? They just released some nerfs and Mauga is still beyond broken.
"you fukd up"
I played the original Overwatch back when it launched for maybe a year before I lost interest in the gameplay and the fandom drove me to dislike the game. I have not played Overwatch 2, I have no intentions of playing it, but sheesh, it sure has changed a lot. I kinda stopped caring enough to keep up with the game, so to see it go from Overwatch 1 with all that I remember of it, to now an in-game shop, like, five different currencies, all with different price points and flashy graphics, all of it kinda doesn't feel like the game anymore.
i haven't watched the video, i only read the title, before i watch it i wanna add: it's been dying for a while, all i've been hearing from a couple of years back is that the game is dying, how long does it really take for it to die?
it never died because it never lived
💯 OV2 was never alive
After Blizzard screwed the fans over so many times, if this game ended up dying, nothing of value would be lost and Blizzard would end up getting even more backlash than usual!
As a Tf2 Player , Overwatch is a good game . I will always prefer tf2 , but overwatch as a game is very good as well .
The problem with ow2 is Blizzard
Its not the same game ow1 plays way different then ow2
Lol, in my country, I could eat lavish breakfasts and dinners for a week and have a bottle of fine wine at weekends on top of it, at the cost of one goddamn skin
I wonder why there is still no legal action for that tripe they pulled off. They basically falsely advertised the game, they distributed the bad balance patch with agressive monetization as a new game, and they took the game that people payed money for away from their libraries. This is why "stop killing games" movement desparately needs to be supported by all EU citizens. Greed. Unmasked and shameless greed. At the cost of those who allow you to even exist as a corporation.
Overwatch will never be dea, it'll just always be hated, it's the definition of "I hate this, it's my favorite thing"
The monetization in Overwatch is nowhere near as bad as it could be. Tbh i could care less about cosmetic monetizing if it doesnt effect gameplay. Like having a cool skin is not a requirement to play the game.
Bro really said what I was thinking 12 days ago
Not me playing over watch 2 as I’m watching this video rn
This is a problem for a lot of games. Greedy companies just takes the soul out of the game and slowly kills it. You have Apex and Overwatch being two good examples.
who woulda guessed...
ruining a good game
"fixing" the game with a sequel no one asked for
making said sequel as a complete cashgrab
not fixing major issues, still
lying for years about a PvE mode
(not even mentioning all the in-company harassment and issues)
... would lead to a popular beloved game dying
Overwatch ain't dead, it's just evolved into a hentai tab
because that's the best thing it's used for now
Overwatchs dead for me as well. I'll give it another chance if they switch back to 6v6
It won't work. The new tanks are incomparable with the 6v6 model.
"Babe wake up! Obscure youtuber #42089 has uploaded another video on yt on how OW has died again with a slightly different thumbnail!"
Keep defending your tr4sh game !diot. That's why Blizzard is going to continue to walk all over you while Fortnite players actually get treated well and accommodated way more by the game devs
Overwatch hater TH-camrs after ignoring all the console and other launchers other than steam "ThE gAmE Is DeAd!!1!1!1!!!"
There is a game?
Been dead since OW2 is LITERALLY OW 1.5
For me, OW2 feels less fun overall than OW, so I stopped playing. I still like watching content, but I miss the old gameplay and the more reasonable grind for skins.
"What can I say you welcome" mauga
At least they put it on Steam. Valorant isn’t because Riot just thinks they’re too different from Valve.
"I'm kind of bad at the game"
I guess it must be playing on PC that makes your movement so crazy and accuracy so high
Mechanical skill is half the battle
13:08 statement is partly true, but mainly due to the balance team back then failed to adhere to the advice the community was trying to give.
Like Brigitte for example, she wasn't too crazy except for the level of sustain she can provide with the AoE passive healing and the armor packs. Community tried to say Brigitte's sustain is too powerful, blizzard decided to nerf everything except the sustain. Same with double shield, blizzard nerfed pretty much everything EXCEPT THAT.
Usually the community advice, especially the good advice tends to fall on deaf ears.
(in response to title)
“The day it came out! Final answer!”
Game is very far from dead, game servers are still full and every patch day the servers are so full you have to sit in a queue.
Game is dead to me though when i saw the skin prices
Everyone who plays the game is a bot
Can't wait for Overwatch 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 and...
ive played overwatch since day one in 2016. i grinded and wasted so much of my time with that game that when OW2 was coming out i was so excited to play the pve, but the fact that it became worse and worse made me just stop playing this game entirely. its a complete ripoff
A lot of the balancing issues came from Overwatch 2 trying to appeal to the Esport crowd instead of casual gamers.
What the E sports people find balanced doesn't mean fun, while what casual gamers find fun wouldn't exactly be balanced in some cases.
Yea Ana and Bap and Brig were all fine for me in gold at release but they got dumpstered now I have to run amock with Moira who the high ranks deem harmless lol
Yeah it’s not dead but people hate it
That genjis skin is just the ice version recolored. Like wtf
"That game ain't that bad if you play it for their ass." Sun Tzu
The funny thing about counter picking, i play vs ai alot and I notice it will sometimes do 2 soldiers or 2 meis when our team cant do that. Plus ive had the ai tank swap to zarya when I was dva lol
My God the bots are adapting
I stopped playing after I bought the story mode only for them to drop it faster than a team fight in push.
At this point, I firmly believe that some billionaire kids got themselves addicted to video games to the point of self-sabotaging (despawning themselves, wasting the company's money on video games, refusing to marry and do normal things because of video games). That billionaire is on a quest to acquire all things video games to ruin it as an act of revenge against this industry.
The movie industry is just collateral damage.
100 million players, and only 1/4 of that actually play it
it died the day they announced PVE is canceled. PVE, in custom games and vs AI is all you have. Its ... kinda boring. I refuse to pay for "the missions", which they said would be first of many FREE updates.
I bought Overwatch back when it cost money. It is absolutely nutter butters that a company like Blizzard can sell you a game then later replace the game you bought with a steaming pile of horse dung. Like.... Why is this legal? I've been robbed of the game I purchased. This isn't the game I bought. This. This is a bad game. I bought a good game.
Because you don't really own games digitally. You basically own a license to use it that they can revoke at any time for any reason.
Most TOS will state that.
That's why the move to digital only for so many studios should concern people.
It's kind of sad that I want someone at Blizzard to pull the plug on this game that I love so it doesn't need to suffer anymore. 😢💔
now the marvel rivals is out and it's basically a better version of overwatch with same UI
To top it off the game crashes quite often, loading times are insane
The gameplay is still fun, but it's a soulless shell of what the original was.
lmao this game will never die unless the community decides to leave an for sum reason in 2024 a community for a game would know the game is shit yet still would play the game an still put 1,000s of dollars in these people pockets its insane
I’ve played it a few times, its fine.
I didn’t in particularly like playing when my friends where offline.
And at some point I just went to tf2.
Which is really a fun game with and without fruends
The white credits can be used to acquire rarer skins but it takes more credits than what is the listed gold credit price. I.E. 1000 gold credit skin needs 1500 white credits to unlock. Unfortunately there are a number of skins that are exempt.
i was never a ow fan but i got pissed when they announced the pve mode got cancelled.
I loved Overwatch until they decided to nerf Mercy, ruins Orisa's skills and they decided to charge so much money for everything. I also I stopped playing because of my internet service, which also sucks.
I mean it doesn't help that you only consider the Steam player count. Taking the stats from the Steam charts and not checking the full player count.
There’s no easy way to check stats for battle.net numbers which makes it hard to gauge
Its dead bro lmao
As a overwatch 1 player I honestly agree with a lot of points made during this video.
I am mainly angry at the whole company and the development team:
Not only did they decide to base ow2 mainly on the PvE, they downright lied or should I say "Cancelled due to unforeseen consequences" (my arse) they also ruined everything that the game had going for it in the first game!
I remember very vividly that the ow1 team was actually one of the best teams in it's time, it became my favourite development team because they actually CARED, Jeff Kaplan was by far the best developer, I remember very well that he engaged with players on twitter and other platforms.
He genuinely seemed like he liked his game, which is a trait that the new team does not have whatsoever for some goddamn reason????
They refuse to listen to anybody but the 'pro' players who just seem to complain about everything, if they can't find a problem in the game they just decide to nerf/buff a hero that DEFINETLY DOES NOT NEED???
They keep locking everything behind a pay wall??
They ruin every part of the game and yet they do not stop and think for just a second: "Hm maybe the fans are right? Maybe we are doing something wrong?" NO! They keep ignoring the fans need I need to remind that they promised ow1 players 'compensation' for deleting ow1 and making the new one free to play, they made it seem like the players would actually get something good that would basically give the players from ow1 money's worth...
The moment I realised I only received 2 crappy skins and a weapon charm for literally having the hero edition base game bought was literally soul shattering and I'm sure I speak for so many other ow1 players that just realised they got crapped on.
The main issue with the game now is the development team, the faster they realise that THEY REALLY ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF THE GAME, the faster they can make changes and become semi-respected than they are.
But if I'm being honest? No matter what they do not everyone will forgive them, they have been acting immature for far to long and I'm sure many fans will not comeback ever. The only thing that keeps the game alive is it being free to play.
Remember when we used to say Paladins was a direct copy of ow1? I'd rather play that game now than this forsaken new game. THAT'S how bad it is right now.
Just ignoring the drama and lies blizzard just blatantly told
I've given the game a chance after 2 years of not playing
It's an amazing game BUT it's way too easy to either be the team that absolutely stomps the other and just walks over them or be the team that can't seem to get an inch without everyone ulting at once
The forced 3 roles is the problem IMO
Let people decide how many tanks, DPS or heals they bring.
Amazing flexibility, counter play, dynamic.
That's the one thing it really misses from the original launch
The open ques still exists. They just added role ques with it
@@waddledee8919 lets split the player base...
@Merkantoine what u mean??
@@waddledee8919 having a role queue and open queue doesn't fix the problem it just splits your players
Longer wait times, fewer player pools.
It's a lose lose.
@@waddledee8919 and to be clear, the game is balanced around the 2 dps 2 support 1 tank meta
Having a playlist with any role combo is inherently going to be unbalanced and the lesser experience no matter what
I agree with most of this but the people saying rivals is already better are ridiculous imo, y’all are ignoring massive issues with that game just because you WANT it to better, not because it IS
TF2: Dude you cant even stay online for 2 years now huh? I mean, my bot crisis is kinda.. solved you know?
You're right. *Overwatch 2* failed by recycling the original game and gutting the promised PvE content. Blizzard’s greed and laziness show in overpriced cosmetics and weak balancing. It’s not about innovation anymore; it’s a cash grab. The soul of the game is gone, and that’s why it feels dead.
It died when they instructed role queue
Can we talk about that everyone spend 60$ on this game when it came out and there was literally 0 problems financing the game????
And now that it’s free and their content just a predatory cash grab that Blizzard is actually running out of funds for it????