Overwatch 2s Story is Dead
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I want Overwatch’s story to come back so badly…
I mean this is best part of ow
it is the best part of what made overwatch great and even goty
Ow2 is different they took out all of the good parts and all of the most fun stuff and made it into an unhappy environment for casuals to get bullied by high ranks with unbalanced shit, no fun at all, and sad part Battle passes and skins that cost 50$ instead of making an animated cinematic trailer or series which will give the company tons of money instead of making the game unfun
Captain obvious
It dindt go anywhere
Now, only the hub still have animation stories
Honestly, the whole thing needs a reboot. There is absolutely no conception of what the plot even is, at its best it's a bunch of characters who were doing cool stuff a decade ago. Start again with a small group of classic characters and an inciting incident. Something is happening, Winston detects it and has to convince his old team to join him, but they all have lives now and are conflicted.
the ow characters really peaked in high school huh
I'd rather have my ow1 back, instead of this ow2 cash grab.
oh yeah overwatch 3
Overwatch 3 👀
Luckily they have a time related hero. They can have Tracer time slip into the past and start changing the narrative stopping Blackwatch operation and the consequences that come from that change. I think we can continue the story but they need to actually do something with it. They can have multiple arcs and stories at the same time but they need to actually put in work
Unfortunately, Michael Chu who was the senior designer for lore and story in Overwatch left Blizzard in 2020 with a lot of the other high profile Blizzard devs back then so thats a major reason why the Story has been very inconsistent lately. I mean we all know about the Kiriko age discrephancy from a while back.
Kiriko has a very simple explanation: The Japanese just age a lot slower
The Kiriko age discrepancy isnt even the first time that happened. Mercy’s age was anywhere from 20-50 without her aging at all in that time span.
@@razrv3lc Don't forget the debacle with the Cassidy, Deadlock, and Blackwatch discrepancies
Why not just NOT give heroes ages. Look at Arcane. I have no clue what the age of Jinx, Jayce or Viktor is but the story is still crazy good.
@@razrv3lcwell that has a genuine reason, apparently she ages slower due to her tech.
To be honest after Jeff Kaplan left overwatch everything went downhill now they’re focusing on cosmetic for the weapons and skin more than the story
to be fair… everything went downhill WITH jeff kaplan the game was absolutely DEAD
@@mumble1836 the game was absolutely alive with Jeff was still around, it was slowly going downhill because of allegations and the layoffs.
@@Bardock059 so it had nothing to do with the fact they refused to make any major balance changes to their game? that the gameplay loop was stale and infuriating? I had been playing since launch and hands down ow is a lot more alive now than it was in the last couple years of its initial lifespan
I was waiting for an Overwatch campaign for TEN YEARS. I was so excited when the OW2 trailer first dropped, and they announced they were FINALLY giving EVERYONE what they wanted.
I even defended OW2 on release, because yes, it is basically the same game, but I explained to everyone that *this* isn’t the new game. The PvE is the actual reason they’re making Overwatch 2.
And then they scrapped it. They just scrapped all that they were setting up for the past TEN YEARS.
I have never felt so betrayed by a company in my life, and I just stopped playing the game completely.
What I’m trying to say is, the dropoff of Overwatch might be the biggest fumble in videogame history.
gang are you in 2026
@@Zahtarifirst trailer was in 2014, 10 years would be right.
Imagine being concord and you made some of the cinematics already that will or probably never be watched
i feel you, i haven’t waited that much bc i knew OW thanks to the dragons cinematic back in the day, but since then I craved for the story mode. remember the archives missions ? it felt so close and I would just hope the PvE would drop only to just move on past that and heyyyyy players don’t worry here’s your new battlepass and a moira / diablo immortal reference ! and players seem to even have moved on, it saddens me. seeing players claiming that the game is a PvP anyway and complain about comp was just… remember why you were even playing again after waiting 2 years man. it is the biggest waste of potential and one of the biggest middle finger from a video game company to me.
"I even defended OW2 on release", ClownCringe, 2024. Hopefully your town publicly mocked you for the shill you are after that.
Man why couldn’t they make ow1 and ow2 separate games? is it that hard
If they did no one would play ow2
@@Zack-sp6cx lol
Funny you mention that, they said OW1 and OW2 can co-exist but then for some reason they went back on it -- without telling anyone mind you -- and then the rest is history.
In short, OW1 was going to be the PVP and OW2 was going to be the PVE, but they knew that PVE wasn't going to be a thing they just said 'fuck it, we're just making OW2 and make people believe the PVE is coming."
@@Zack-sp6cxPeople would if it had more story and SKILL TREES
bc the devs were being too arrogant thinking they can finish pve on time and also force the entire fanbase to play it rather than make a separate game
and imo its stupid coz jeff said ow2 and ow1 will be separate games
the pve will be separate the pvp will be free
they said nothing about 5v5 they only mentioned they want to make tanks fun in 6v6
and then when jeff left Aaron and Jared go like WE SWITCHING TO 5V5 HOORAY RIGHT WAIT WHY NO ONE IS CHEERING
i hate that this so true. I love overwatch so much its so sad to see it be like this
we NEEED a ramatra cinematic, he is the best written character that i have seen come out of over watch 2. his lore with zen, his conflicts god i just want another PROPER ramatra cinematic, too bad its probably going to be locked behind the pve.
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There is, but pve cutscene
Bro, what pve? 🥲
i do love ram but there’s just potential with him, not even that much of lore and investment from blizzard. if you want, he’s just a concept, while he could be and SHOULD be so much more. look at how nice the interaction he has with zen in the "pve" was. it’s nice but needs more development, i agree with you btw if it wasn’t clear
i believe the EXACT same thing for doomfist, he’s such a key character and yet he has nothing for him lore wise
It died away soon after Sigma... I miss the days when Blizzard would entertain fans with minor hints that would spark wild fan theories and the discovery of Easter eggs hidden across various maps.
Overwatch 2 New heroes will never get the same hype that Doomfist did.
same lol i will miss it
instead we get OW2 new skins and shills are gonna go crazy over the skin bundles
while we fans are just waiting for content coz skins are just a fcking lame excuse for content
Right? The Sombra arg was intense lol. Moira’s reveal was amazing. Sigma’s intro was amazing. New heroes now just get plopped in without any fanfare. Venture doesn’t even have a legendary skin over 6 months after being added lmao
@@razrv3lc Even the new maps lack soul; I can't even remember their names; people hated the gamemode, but the 2CP maps were some of the most fun and unique maps.
@@nex5691 not even new skins most of the time 😭😭😭 recolours upon recolours... and reruns too which im not against but TT
I'm just sad that Mery never got her own cinematic. In fact, none of the original healers got any cinematics, and Mercy is THE healer of Overwatch. She and Symmetra had the best potential back stories to tell. How did Mercy develop the valkyrie suit? Did Symmetra willingly replace her arm for cybernetics to be able to create hard light?
As a Mercy main, this hurts 😢
Some of the short stories should have been made into full cinematics. The entire new OW2 short story collection is just scapped PvE scripts.
It's a heartbreak to realize we're never getting Overwatch back. It's a shame what they've done to the player base and it's own employees since 2018. I would rather fight smurfs that purchase thousands of accounts than see Blizzard consistently charge for battlepasses and skins that used to be free rewards for playing the game. If a miracle happens and they pull it back together to make Overwatch 3, I will answer the call. Always.
Well, in defense of Juno’s cinematic, I’d say it has some rewatchability if you saw the comic first then the cinematic. The reason why Mei’s cinematic is better is because it had a proper beginning, while Juno’s cinematic was separated into a comic that no one would read.
Plus Mei was a character we knew, knew something was up, and then shown and told. We saw how her life changed for the worse then better...
We saw Bastion, nobody cared that much for Bastion... then everyone supported his corner shooting. Then comic happened where Torb puts aside his agenda and adopts him.
Juno, even with knowledge of the comic, has nothing. Her story is zilch, not an existing thing, it's kick rock and Earth. It is the definition of pointlessness, and with Ram, Sojourn and Mauga now here, this is the norm now.
I feel like that speaks to the garbage budget lmfao. Im sure the writers wanted to fit it all into one cinematic
oh yea not only that the cinematics were the best bc they put all their love and soul into it and it gave us tears bc it had so many emotional moments which was the best
especially Dragons that cinematic made me go and play overwatch it looked like disney animation studio made it and it was emotional and great
even soujorns that made me hyped for the story of how ow gonna defeat null sector
BUT SADLY THAT AINT EVER GONNA COME BACK COZ BLIZZ REFUSES TO GIVE US MORE LORE, STORY, AND CINEMATICS TO MAKE US LOVE THE GAME EVEN MORE
and instead they are putting all their effort to forcing 5v5 on us and make us forget 6v6 they are trying to go onto us and say 5v5 is better 6v6 is bad dont play it
and they love to buff supps and tanks to infinite health while dps get 100% nerfs and it sucks
I dont want this I asked for lore, cinematics, and story
Ah yes I have to external media to to understand the ORIGIN STORY of a character
This is true. Juno's comic is really GOOD. But the video has a major point that there's basically no development on any actual future story.
Overwatch, as a story, doesn't need any more characters. They need to actually do something. Anything.
Not going to lie it would be better if they made a animated series with a streaming service. Like what they did with League of Legands
I’ve been saying this. They cannot balance it to save their lives as a game but they’ve made Pixar level magic with animations. They’re focusing on something theyre mediocre at rather than focusing on something theyre great at.
they won’t, too risky. the Warcraft movie didn’t work in theaters and since then, they haven’t tried again to make a project in a similar scale for a bigger audience. i just hope that after arcane and cyberpunk edgerunners impact, or even the upcoming genshin impact anime, that blizzard will take the opportunity. but we would need actual quality, the mauga / doomfist cinematics aren’t the standard they should be based on
@@masekyn5480Yeah it needs to be the Pixar level shorts that we got in the past. Also, I think it’s more realistic to get a movie than a show.
@@masekyn5480 i do agree with what you're saying but imo blizzard definitely has the budget/money to fund an entire movie or show with the same quality from the 3d overwatch cinematics to make that risk, although i absolutely dont doubt it will be very expensive. if anything, they could just air said movie/show on a streaming service instead of theaters like arcane has done with netflix
They already cheeped out with that short series I wouldn’t hold out any hopes
Honor & Glory is the sole reason why whenever someone asks me to switch out of Reinhardt, I say "no u switch"
Real
What bothers me even more is that they have incredible villains with Doomfist and Rammatra, really good antagonists with interesting characters and motivation. They are just wasted on a team that refuses to do anything story-related.
At this point just make an animated show, that would be so much better.
Venture and Juno are such interesting characters but its like the team didn't even know what to do with them
Oh absolutely, not only are they treated porly within the game, like skins and emotes being released later than their launch, but just. I really loved venture as a concept. They're such an endearing and charming character to me, i really wish i could be invested in them more, but there's basically nothing to go for. Like what do they have to do with overwatch? What's their backstory? Why do they like their work sm like even basic stuff we don't know!! And its really getting into my nerves lately.
@@buttercake-3215I absolutely agree. I don’t like Venture at all(abilities are interesting but I’m poor lol) but like what do you offer to the story? Nothing. No connection other than “hey I preserve ancient history from bad guys :D!”. At least Juno has a slight connection and is interesting as a character, but she offers nothing to progress the story as well. I think the story for characters dropped when Lifeweaver came out, cool guy but like what does he do for the story again lol
@@arsenal4739not all the heros have to be linked to the main story, junk isn't, Hammond, hanzo isn't either.
@@craigwolfe249 that’s because they haven’t used Hanzo at all or the Junkers lol. I mean it just seems weird and all given how every hero is connected to one another so who knows how the Junkers would have turned out, like would they have had a partnership with Overwatch cause Null Sector attacked Australia or what like they’re just there literally minding their own business lol. It’s even weirder cause Kiriko is in Hanazaka minding her own business with her vigilante group. Idk if the characters have more stories from comics btw but just saying that the majority of characters all are in this massive good vs evil story and yet some guys are just completely by themselves.
Blizzard is no longer supporting Overwatch 2 as a mainline title its kind of a side thing that they just keep alive barely
Activision should realize there are people playing the game who have no interest in buying new skins and cosmetics or people that don't even have money and just want to enjoy the game.
They dont care if the average player doesn't give them money, only the whales that spend $40+ dollars on a free game.
I hate that I've had to turn to fanfiction to finish some of these incredible stories. I want to see Hanzo and Widowmaker's individual stories develop. I want to see what the whole point of overwatch coming together is. I wasn't able to play overwatch 1 back in the day because of the cost but I poured over lore and videos and any scrap I could get. I've been playing 2 kind of obsessively since it came to steam, and I enjoy it, but It's also likely because I'm new to the gameplay. The lack of story progression really does sadden me.
I can imagine that for someone who is completely new, OW2 works pretty well. But for us, who we have known OW since its release, it is just unfortunate to see how this game lost its soul.
Do people even right fanfiction for overwatch anymore? It used to be super active back in like 2017-2018 but the last time I looked, it was like most of those stories hadn’t been updated since then lol
@@razrv3lc I've found a few. It is hard to find non-smut stories now, though.
From loot boxes to "micro" transactions that cost more than overwatch 1 did, this is why people are moving to games like Warframe
I’ve always said that Overwatch as a brand was absolutely fumbled. They should have been making books, tv shows, comics, movies, other games, etc. Overwatch was the biggest game in the world for a time. This was before Fortnite. For a company as greedy as Blizzard to not try to make Overwatch the next big thing was an absolute L. Look at Arcane and how that made League of legends so popular. Same thing with Cyberpunk Edgerunners, Last of us and even the Witcher show. Overwatch managed to do a very hard thing and that was create a while cast of new characters that people were invested in. We wanted to know how they became who they were, what they were doing now and what would happen next. Blizzard failed in so many ways but the story and characters of Overwatch deserved better.
Overwatch feels just soulless now. no story, no exciting events, no lootboxes, just removed things from ow1
Overbought is the new name for Overwatch.
Overwatch still fits tho. Cuse we can Overwatch it die :(
Oversell
i still fw Overwhelmingly Negative ☠️
I find it criminal the Ramattra has 0 cinematics when he is essentially one of the big bads for the game.
We’re talking about Blizzard here, they gave Sigma the most interesting backstory then never elaborated on it EVER again
the fact that some people still think blizzard gives a single fuck about what we want is funny
The story was over the moment Michael Chu, the lead story writer, left Blizzard
Which year was that
@@goosefan1 March 2020
It feels like every time a hero joins, cinematic will just be about how they end up joining. Overwatch, Talon and Null Sector and any other organisations or movements they randomly throw in will just be suspended in the moment before action as all the heroes join.
The conflict in general is super uninteresting. Null Sector are really bland and Ramm can't carry it. Talon strives for...chaos? Give us some reason why they're doing what they're doing. Give Doom some depth.
Also it doesn't feel like a "second omnic crisis" is happening. Is Null Sector even a big group that governments couldn't handle? Why are there never any soldiers fighting Null Sector? All the foot soldiers just seem like mindless robots, not revolutionaries like Ramm. Which is why he can't carry the storyline. The more I say it, the name Null Sector sucks, but it's fitting for my opinions about it's value.
Also, on my first point, the game Smite actually had a similar set-up as every time a new God was introduced to the game, they'd just say "Blank couldn't stay idle any longer and has joined the battle of the Gods" which actually works perfectly because they don't introduce any plot hooks to make you invested but gives you interest in the match you're playing as the battle. And they already have lore from mythology. Basically, if you're going to start a story you need to at least carry it forward, but the other viable option is to just give you an outline and let the imagination run wild. Overwatch chose option 1, but stagnated.
the 'story mode' was too little too late in terms of lore, felt like something that should've come in during OW1 days while the hype around characters was real (Sombra, Doomfist). It's hard to care when the game has been Fortnite-ified and jam-packed with heroes with all different hinted-at stories
false, ram hard carries it
@@hex3132not to mention the fact the PvE update was packaged in a $15 DLC so no one would care enough to buy it
This video is so high quality for such a small channel, keep up the good work! You deserve more subscribers.
I loved the cinematics so much, I have gotten people into the game just through them, I even showed my mom those cinematics - just because they were great. They stood alone. You didn't need to know anything for them, they had their little stories, anyone outside of the overwatch community could enjoy them. Lets be real, those cinematics were the main reason people wanted an OW2 - wanted a PVE game - because they saw the story in those and wanted to play that very story. I miss the times a new cinematic dropped and i just had to drop everything and watch it.
Everyone acts like the team stayed the same and just changed direction, rather than the entire team changing. None of the people left on it were the ones that made OW1. They’re pretty much playing with a corpse right now. They don’t know what to do with it because they didn’t make it.
I only rewatch the Kiriko trailer because the trailer is so emotional somehow That make me tear UP each Time i wish Kiriko was this kind in game
WaIt tIlL YoU SeE Me oN My bIkE
@@syvulpie yet this voice Line is so random and i love it
It feels weird that kiriko is so kind and has a great and caring personality in her trailer, but in game she's just annoying.
@@NovaaTheGreatProbably cause Blizzard thinks that’s how teenagers act like 😂😂
@@jvl5379 but in the game she shouldn't even be a teenager, her story was that she trained along side genji and hanzo who are both in their 30's. even if genji and hanzo were like 14 while they were training (which they looked younger than) kiriko should at least be like 25 years old. idk how overwatch is fumbling their own lore so badly to try to make her seem like a teenager
It pains me to know the story was discarded by blizzard, no PVE and the newer cinematics lack a plot, emotion and *cough* budget.
They blow their money on ads, which is sad.
I will forever miss OW1 💔
Archives could be such a smart way to move the story, doing what they LOVE now, selling skins. Make skins that are canon, like the Soldier 24 for Reaper, the talon skins, the overwatch skins for mercy, tracer, rein, torb. Just keep doing this, AND BRING THE OLD GAME MODES BACK! Yes, we played the heck out of them, and we want more, but we're not getting more anyways, just keep the old ones there for the new players to enjoy too. I am genuinely so sad that I can't play these old game modes with my new friends that only played OW2, all because of a false promise of a PVE that will never come to life.
Imagine if we got a movie to continue the storyline
I’d rather a TV show but yeah
"Lost the plot" lol Overwatch literally never had a plot. It was just some loose character backgrounds with zero actual developing story. They kept hinting at stuff happening and then nothing would happen. Probably because they started saving the "story" for the Overwatch 2 pve.
ow2 story is the biggest nothing burger ever, it’s like if they want to make a story without making a story. in short *the* *story* *can* *fit* *in* *one* *paper*
It’s insane that OW2 makes me miss leveling my account for loot boxes
its cause they viewed fortnite as a competition when they really shouldnt. what made overwatch special was its story and characters. the archives had good -ish pve, but if they weren't fully ready to build those mission they should've opted to go an arcane sort of route instead. but they are continually fumbling the bag. its crazy.
It’s kinda like Fortnite, it had such great lore but went down the drain the more they collaborated with company’s and making the game away from battle Royale
It wasn't even battle royale originally
I’ve started playing Overwatch back in 2017 and have stuck with the game through all its trouble. I’ve been with the game through its worse moments. It’s just now that I’ve finally put the game down. I no longer play the game on my own anymore and will only redownload the game if my friends want me to play.
It makes me so sad to she the state of this game now. This game has honestly changed my life. It’s sad to see it fail so bad and become unrecognizable from the game I fell in love with.
Even with the actual cinematics of Overwatch 2, the story is so decidedly dead that the only time they consider making a cinematic it is to sell the new hero, and that is, while they still consider selling the new heroes, because this trend of giving less and less budget to make the cinematics only show that Microsoft is feelling less and less willing to spend money on stuff that won't directly give them money back...
The Overwatch plot never made sense in game : They release so many cinematics to build up the fact that OW was dismantle long ago but must get back toghether so Winston made the call.
And yet, when you finally get your hands on the game, you quickly realise that, these characters you're playing as, are not in their "Post--Call" version but more like what they look like/Last seen appearence when OW got dismantle.
We had to wait OW2 to finally get the post-call version and the cinematic were they actually reunite.
I'm sure they had good intention with the plot but my god. When you oversell those legendary heroes getting back toghether but you fumble this hard, it's safe to say the OW "plot" was lost a long time ago or was only meant to be a badass backstory to sell some cool world building and characters and nothing more.
Yeah. Backstories. That's all Overwatch ever was at this point.
The story has long BEEN dead since this game's "sequel" came out. It's just finally setting in for all of you.
I used to be so hyped up about the overwatch lore expanding and seeing new cinematics, now its just advertising on colabs amd bundles and millions of skins for kiriko
Real. ow ip had the potential to be a complete superhero franchize. The story and worldbuilding has so much potential.
Honestly feel bad for all the VAs, the ones I met at cons were all excited for a proper story mode, a show, movie or anything.
And I think at the times I met some of them the original plan for OW2 story mode may have been being recorded. Cause how they spoke to some of us about a potential campaign could see a sparkle in their eyes.
But now it’s just been canned cause greedy ceos, investors and more.
Every time I launched Overwatch on PS4, I watched the whole cinematic of Winston's speech.
To hear that "are you with me?" and yell "hell yes" before playing.
The one cinematic I re-watch from the old ones is Honor...and I still tear up everytime. Reinhardt's story is just that good in that cinematic.
2:06 omg that’s wicked 💀
I don't know much about Overwatch lore, I only know that there is an official Reaper novel/book (idk) in which they made a continuity error so big that it implied either:
A-Retconning almost the entire history of the character.
B-Reaper was a police officer at the age of 5/8 years old.
Amazing.
yeah, Reaper was an imposing edgy man since his infancy. He just came out like that
honestly they have a huge problem with all the aging of the characters in overwatch 2, due to all the old lore they released several of the characters should be much older than they are (in their late 20's to early 30's) but instead are in their early 20s. kiri should be older than they say she is, reaper should be older, phara should be younger. Overwatch has a huge problem with needing to retcon a lot of their character information that got ruined when overwatch 2 came out
@@battlepho I think the biggest problem was saying the ages of the characters, some stories avoid doing this to avoid these inconsistencies in the future and limit themselves to letting people interpret the ages, but I don't know why, Overwatch insists on giving exact ages and in the end they have to retcon several things or add lore to justify errors that they hadn't thought of at the beginning.
The lore folks were fired
So yeah, the plot walked out the door
Rather literally, yeah.
wym they werent getting anythign done while they were employed either
the only ow2 cinematic I regularly rewatch is mauga's "great day". I love watching this guy charging through those omnics and causing pure chaos on the ship, and I was like 'oh man I can't wait until he comes out to the game so I can also charge through enemies, crush them with the stomp, and *finish* them with miniguns, and then he comes out and I can't even charge because his "identity" is to stand still in the choke and press m1+m2 for the entire match...
The Overwatch IP was dead on the vine before Overwatch 2 even launched. The reason it is so bad now is because Overwatch 2 is actually nothing more than RAID: Shadow Legends forcibly inserted into Overwatch's rotting corpse, making it dance around to sell cosmetics for money. The only reason OW2 hasn't been completely shut down yet is because newer gamers who never played Overwatch and simply don't know any better are still buying skins and battle passes. Thanks Bobby Kotick.
The fact there’s no Ramattra cinematic is damning
You’re totally right like he is basically the big bad of the story and we didn’t get a cinematic
#JusticeForRamattra
@@jello_are3372Ramattra is not the big bad, lol
This isnt a doompost I swear.
The piece of the puzzle you're missing here is that WHOEVER is calling the shots no longer gives a fuck about overwatch's(and blizzard's in general quite frankly) public perception.
If youre old enough to remember blizzard's early games at the time they used to be the golden child. Their quality of cinematic and games in general were kind of a mirror to square enix at the time, massive work for not as much return just to be the household name(and maybe a bit of ego flexing). It worked, blizzard cemented themselves as the cool guys and theyve been riding it since. Pretty sure the people who set it on that path are long gone, and the people left are just riding the train with no destination, not realizing why most people have long since left. Or maybe they just realize their reputation is so bad that nobody cares anymore. Im sure the shareholders are filled with confidence at their competence regardless of the topic or subject as long as money is the end result.
Swear its not a doompost, just putting this frame of reference out there. Its likely never returning
They killed the story when they scrapped the PvE mode
"Oooo, as usual I'll buy the skins!"
Translated; dont think, consume product
It's genuinely so fucking sad how we'll never experience anything like overwatch 1 again. The game was actually good, even getting game of the year awards, but now it's just a laughing stock and has been ever since overwatch 2 released.
I really just wish they never replaced overwatch 1 with overwatch 2, and instead just focused on making overwatch 2 its own game, a pve, which would've been a continuation of the franchise and a fun game to play for the lore, story-line and even gameplay considering the skill trees and all.
But no. Replace an actual good game that had so much heart and soul put into it throughout it's years and just make it a marketing mess. Why not I guess?
The game isn't even fun anymore, all the magic that was in overwatch 1 just isn't here. I still don't understand why 5v5 over 6v6 is an argument people make either. I'd rather go against 2 tanks than one unkillable mess that outdamages the damage characters anyway.
I could go on about this for ages but the point is there.
Aaron Keller had a fairly recent blog post saying they went to 5v5 for two main reasons:
1) Queue Times
When they switched to role queue to stop GOATs, queue times drastically increased with DPS usually waiting 6 minutes for a game. Removing a tank cut the queue times in half for the other two roles.
2) Bad Optimization
Since they decided to do a big engine update with improved graphics for OW2, they had a lot of difficulty getting the game to run on the weaker consoles it supports like the Switch. A sixth player would exacerbate the issue.
Notice neither of the reasons mentioned were gameplay related.
@@Zhohan-
1) Tank queues were the shortest to begin with. The only reason queues were long is because the game WAS RECEIVING UPDATES EVERY 6 MONTHS. It was dead, they were too busy working on overwatch 2 to care.
2) You can still go 6v6 in custom games, so there's literally no excuse. 6v6 with workshop involved at that. The game runs just fine.
They're making shit up to try and justify their poor decisions lol.
It's fair to say that Overwatch has lost its vision and has become stagnant. Even if Blizzard or now Microsoft decided to put more effort into the story and pushing it forward, it's not guaranteed that the game will become as big as it used to be. It's a sad state of affairs and we all wish greed could be put aside and let a creative vision take its course.
But on the other hand, it's also a bit unfair to blame people for getting excited about collabs, even if they are just glorified advertisements and shop updates. You can't tell me Optimus Prime as a rein skin doesn't go hard. But more importantly, as sad as it is to say, they're really one of the last few things left to feel excited about in this game, and it's not looking like that's going to change.
i didn't lose my shit for echo BUT i did had a "OOF" reaction when she flies hyperfast dodgig stuff
The current OW story is that literally everyone responsible for the OW story got fired ✨🤷♀️✨
I think one of the major contributors to the failures of overwatches story also has to fall into the antagonist department. When doom fist came out in OW1 with his cinematic, it actually felt like the story was progressing. It finally gave a head figure for overwatch to challenge instead of Reaper and Widow while also giving the villains of overwatch a sense of progression. Yet, doomfist and talon since then has basically felt stagnant and hardly even a team. Instead of Doomfist actually feeling threatening he just feels like a typical evil villain who sits back and lets reaper do something random for the thousandth time. When Ramattra was introduced the prior feeling of progression was renewed as he felt like a huge threat that had very clear motives that not only threatened overwatch but talon....right???? No, instead rammatra was chalked up as another character thats brushed aside as soon as the next hero drops.
Its not like theres a lack of material as there's so many people and character motivations that can lead the story. Characters like Hanzo, Rammatra, Cass, Doom, Winston, and so many others all have not only established motivations but relationships and tensions with other characters that can move a story forward. The only major problem is that your two main villains don't feel important in the slightest anymore and therefore keep the stakes for Overwatch at an extreme low. If blizzard just put a minimal amount of effort into story cinematics and helped build up their villains again, the story could set itself on a much better path. Yet, Blizzard would rather have their new trailers and their characters going on scavenger hunts or just flat out promoting skins and collabs.
The devs don’t care about the story at all. Literally even the in-game dialogue is a downgrade from the OW 1. There’s little to no lines between the original Overwatch cast.
i love how they’re wasting rammattra’s potential as a character
The original OW trailers and character videos are a legimate a 1-2 hour movie that can rival Pixar.
it has been death since Kiriko , who apparently grew up together with Hanzo and Genji but is only half their age.
Blizzard used to take what was already done in the industry and made it better, now they're chasing every trend possible while doing it worse somehow. Thanks for firing your creative staff guys!
I remember being so hyped whenever there was a story mission out bro, really sad that now all that we have is 3 missions behind a paywall
Can’t believe they’re ruining this goldmine of an IP 😞
Unfortunately the portion of people that do care about the skins and purchase them when they release are the reason why this is the way it is. Not blaming any particular streamers either, this game for some of them is their job. But as long as Blizz keeps giving people what they "want" (see Kiriko and Mercy skins vs anyone else...) then we're stuck like this. Not enough people are doing the same for it to matter either 'cause they just did a bunch more layoffs. They're focused on short-term easy money. Comparing OW to LoL is laughable now than it was back when OW was in its prime. LoL doesn't need collabs to stay afloat, they already set their foundation and can just build up without a care.
what story lol? overwatch 2 developers never tried to do anything, the only pack of missions relased were made by overwatch 1 developers, the rio mission had a demo playable in 2019 and they show a lot of the other two missions. the things we saw later were going to be the zenyatta mission vs talon but overwatch 2 developers couldnt even finish a single fucking mission
Overwatch 1 : Hype heroic stuffs
Overwatch 2 : Come and buy this thing!
I still can't believe some people still think overwatch 2 is in a better place than overwatch 1, they are huffing so much copium, but overwatch 1 is 100x superior in every way possible
At this point, I'll just imagine my own version of the lore and story in my head.
Overwatch has lost it's entire pve...it was promised, and they didn't deliver. Ergo i refuse to play the game because they didn't give what was promised. The cinimatics were the only thing keeping me interested and even those are losing quality.
At this point, they need a reboot or at least reconfiguring of the PVE story to become cinematics.
And if the 3D style is too much, im down for some change (the Doomfist and Mauga trailer were some ideas in mind) I just want OW to have a soul again
Now that I think about it, Helldivers 2 is what Overwatch should've been, kinda. The Cinematics being very integral to the game.
OW1 cinematics were really good ADs for the pay2play game.
Now devs release a season trailer every 2 months, ~3 collaboration trailers and 3 heroes every year.
Spending so much money for less hype doesn't worth it
When I first played overwatch I was so excited I drew my own character for it! I made her abilities, ultimates and even spared time to draw cosmetics, I was obsessed with the idea of her being an actual character for a game I’m proud of… now however I’d be absolutely fcking ashamed. I literally burned my art of her from all those years ago because the game I made her for isn’t the game I’m playing today.
I've been a fan since before I even hit my teens purely because of the cinematics. I never played games other than pokemon really but I remember stumbling upon an overwatch cinematic on TH-cam and I loved it so much I became a hard-core fan! I never actually realised it was a game and only managed to play it for the first time when overwatch 2 came out but those cinematics probably in some way effected who I've become today. I so badly hope that they start creating more true stories so that eventually we have a game with some backbone other than just gameplay (and it would be cool if every character had a cinematic but that might be a bit much to hope for right now).
It's a shame because Blizzard could satisfy both needs. They just need to create cinematics where the characters are wearing new skins and boom: story progression and ads for skins in one
The animations were beautiful...❤😢
Your words absolutely hurt me. Not because I disliked them, but because how real they are.
The problem also comes from the new characters arent ex OW/Talon/etc operatives, rather some randos connected to 1 maybe 2 vanilia chars. LW,Juno? Who cares
Illari,Venture? No one knew about them even in the cast
Only Mauga is getting a pass cuz hes been teased since 2018
Not gonna lie, I started playing this game in 2017 because I sat down with my uncle who showed me all of those cinematics, to this day Bastion one is my favourite
I had kinda grown apathetic to OW2s story in such a way I was starting to think it was never that great. Thanks for reminding me how great it was.
This is why (among other reasons) I gave up on overwatch months ago and haven't looked back. Blizzard is a hollow shell of their former selves, Overwatch 2 is and was a mess that couldn't just pick one direction to move in, and Microsoft have only gutted huge swaths of employees since they acquired Activision blizzard. It has no future. So what's the point of caring anymore?
To be fair, Venture doesn't really deserve a cinematic anyway.
Yes they do? Why wouldn’t they deserve it?
@@phoenixflamegames1because she's trash
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Because Venture deserves nothing.
@@phoenixflamegames1They is so fucking cringe 😂 Im sorry but it is grammatically doesn’t make any sense
@@phoenixflamegames1She doesn’t and you know she doesn’t. She’s some entirely disconnected character that again has nothing to do and doesn’t progress shit beyond being another rando for OW to pick up, I miss a majority of heroes having SOMETHING to do with what is going on be they Sym connected to the big corporation or as impactful as Ram who is one of the biggest villains of the setting.
true...i really hated the juno animation and i got so annoyed seeing ppl say that it's ''good'' or ''cute'' it's so ass and cringe
The thing that pisses me off is that they knew the game wasn’t going to be what they promised, and STILL decided to show us the zero hour cinematic and tricked people into supporting the game because we were thinking they were cooking. Absolutely ridiculous and scummy behavior. I still play the game, but I have not spent a single penny for anything in the shop.
It just sucks that this game is so rich with character and environment and all of it is just regulated to voice lines with each other in the game…
Couldn’t have said this better. You literally described the exact feeling I have towards this game.
Agreed
Movie. They should have just made the thing a movie. It has such a rich story and lore and characters. It would make an awesome animated movie.
Budget and income makes it so that its not viable financially to create fully fledged 3D cinematic as of now. The game is at its lowest, and it would take a shitload of work to fix it which is a shame cause the general gameplay and design is incredible.
I´d wager that making an actual movie cinematic or series would more or less be more profitable by now if done right. But thats money and years of production which Blizzard probably cant afford. The 3D cinematic teams are incredibly talented. As well as the people behind the doomfist 2d animated trailer. A shame to see it sink like this.
Zenyatta still hasn’t got his cinematic 😢
A little unfair you didn't include the 3 part Genesis series Overwatch put out last year, that did a lot to expand the lore of the Omnics, Aurora and Mina Liao as well as giving us a bit of a teaser on what a full fledged 2D animated overwatch series might look like.
yeah thats also an ad buddy, it was to sell pve drops.
@@TastyMeatChunksTTV Hundreds of thousands of dollars put into Genesis to sell a $5 PvE (since it also came with the 1k premium currency)? Come on you can't have bad faith arguments that silly, guy.
“Kinda died” it’s BEEN Dead, BEEN Dead! I can’t believe people hold on to a money grab game instead of giving their attention to new good games coming out
Dawg. We've seen what happened when OW2 cancelled PVE. The copium was through the roof.
Im not saying overwatch is doomed but it definitely wasted its potential for a story to focus on skins and live service
Wow never thought that i would cry. Seeing the old cinematics drop me back in a time where Overwatch was like magic for me ...there is something lost nowadays and it makes me sad.
I hated the colabs as soon as i saw them. It took me that long to realize the soul of the game was completely gone
I have stated that I am highly disappointed in OW. When the first one was at it's peak around it's release I desperately wanted to be involved in the fun. I finally got Overwatch one a year or two before OW2 release and absolutely grinded it down with fulfillment. When OW2 came out I was excited to see what was to come, mostly excited for PvE, skill trees are just an awesome concept in gaming to give players different experiences. As soon as I was overwhelmed with microtransactions and skins with PvE being ripped away from me (why should I buy 3 missions with unfulfilled mechanic promises?) I gave it up and never touched it since, and how it's going with all these collabs and propositions I'm unimpressed and uninterested to download it and play again. I liked the lootboxes better. Sure gambling is a bad thing but just playing the game gave you free boxes or enough currency to see what you get, and the feeling of getting something my friend hasn't gotten gives me a sense of uniqueness, and makes playing more thrilling when everyone has different good items to show off.