I dug up a chart of weapon data (motion values and yada yada), and the Sword of Milos deals Pierce damage on backstabs, ripostes, and the dual-wielding backstep L1. Everything else is Standard damage. In case anyone was curious.
13:00 she literally says "if you have any qualms with killing your own, then I shall find another" she WANTS you to kill. Its implied she intentionally got her necklace stolen to find a tarnished who she could recruit.
She additionally conceals that she's from the Manor until AFTER you give her the necklace, and says "Not only a steady hand but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind." She doesn't know about what Rykard did and the snake town, but she knows the Manor kills tarnished.
@@skvaderarts7009 Yeah, she says confronting. The full quote for this part: "That thug made off with a precious necklace. I need someone to retrieve it. Only... He, too, is Tarnished. If you've any qualms confronting your own, I shall find another..." When you hand her the necklace she says: "Oh, yes, that is my missing necklace. Thank you kindly. I am in your debt. Did I forget to announce myself? I am Rya, in the service of Lady Tanith of the Volcano Manor. I seek stalwart Tarnished who might join our house. You are very brave yourself. Not only a steady hand, but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind. Such strength is precisely what my mistress seeks. Please, take this." I will say the 'merciless even to your own kind' part implied she was looking for a merciless killer which was exactly what volcano manor looks for. While Rya seems very out of the loop on a lot of the lore, she also seems to understand her assignment and has done it often enough she's got a routine for getting folks to Volcano Manor.
Crucially, she doesn't ask you to kill Boggart. It's important, for the Manor's recruitment policy, that you make that decision of your own volition. (Just like how Boggart made the choice to rob her!) She does *assume* you killed him even if you bought the talisman, which speaks volumes about the company she keeps, but she never requests it.
Yeah, she absolutely does know what Volcano Manor does. I mean, I love that little snake girl, but she GREW UP there. Seriously Tulok, grow up. It´s impossible she doe snot know this. It is what these guys do day-to-day. Also it is her job to scout people willing to fuck up other Tarnished. And by the way, saying 'bitch' does not make Boggart a misogynist. He is just an ASSHOLE. He has the same dialogue for male and female players and once you know him he is kinda buddy buddy. He just is a broken person that insults people and uses abusive language. An asshole ? Yes. Does he hate women ? 'Marika´s TITS' no ! He hates everyone. My hot take here. Everyone except people who like prawn/crab. Also, I thought he was very rude and killed him the first time I met the guy. And I THOUGHT I was meant to do that - EVERYBODY does think that, since Snake Girl told us to get the necklace in a certain way. Obviously she expected you to kill him, and looky here I did. I never kill NPCs, not even the trader in DS 2 (althoug the outfit gives you bonus souls from grinding...) But I thought you are MEANT to kill him. Silly me ! On my next char I found out you are not needed to. Intended by Hidetaka, and intended by Rya. Facts.
Hey Phil, since you debated my comment on the Boggart video I just want to say I see why you think Boggart is a misogynist. I still find it hard but that's due to me being a woman and befriending the guy, so it feels hard to call him that because of my own experiences with him. Rya is still totally scouting for Manor recruits though (Why do you think her title is Scout?), she literally says that it's good that you are able to kill other Tarnished. She just doesn't know about the Manor's secret snake town, she does know about the killing.
What does boggart say that's misogynist? I checked the wiki and all he seemed to say was Rya was stupid for being tricked by him when he got the necklace. But the wiki bleeped out a lot of his swearing so I figured maybe it wasn't transcribed, but checking in game, he called her lucky and stupid. Now I'm thinking the dialogue was updated at some point cause I cant find what he said for the life of me. The closest I can find is him calling the player a swine for first refusing his to buy the necklace from him then changing their mind.
I love Rya and wish there was an ending for her but I actually like this interpretation because it gives her a bit of complexity besides uwu smol bean. As for Boggart, idk, if I realized that a little necklace I stole was actually a trap laid for me I might call the person a b*tch too, regardless of their gender. Where I don't agree with Tulok is I don't really feel like hating woman is a strong character trait of Boggart--he can say some misogynistic things at times, sure, but I don't think that really defines him as a person.
Yeah, she absolutely does know what Volcano Manor does. I mean, I love that little snake girl, but she GREW UP there. Seriously Tulok, get a grip. It´s impossible she does not know this. It is what these guys do day-to-day. Also it is her job to scout people willing to fuck up other Tarnished. And by the way, saying 'bitch' does not make Boggart a misogynist. He is just an ASSHOLE. He has the same dialogue for male and female players and once you know him he is kinda buddy buddy. He just is a broken person that insults people and uses abusive language. An asshole ? Yes. Does he hate women ? 'Marika´s TITS' no ! He hates everyone. My hot take here. Everyone except people who like prawn/crab. Also, I thought he was very rude and killed him the first time I met the guy. And I THOUGHT I was meant to do that - EVERYBODY does think that, since Snake Girl told us to get the necklace in a certain way. Obviously she expected you to kill him, and looky here I did. I never kill NPCs, not even the trader in DS 2 (althoug the outfit gives you bonus souls from grinding...) But I thought you are MEANT to kill him. Silly me ! On my next char I found out you are not needed to. Intended by Hidetaka, and intended by Rya. Facts.
The nuance talk about the prison system and the difference between misanthropy here is super appreciated. I really do hope you can keep the energy for some of these bits. One important part of lore on the Omen set- The Dung Eater armor isn't specified to be an from an Omen. I am only bringing this up because some of the text on the armor mentions this: "Malformed helm resembling an Omen with its horns cut off. Worn by the Dung Eater, their form is a vision of the landscape of his mind, and of his appearance as he wished to see it. The heart of an omen without the body to match; could there be any crueler existence? What does it matter, then, if the curse claims at all?" The last sentence making me think that he also had some type of body dysmorphia and this continues with the themes of self loathing and general hatred for everyone, including himself. As well as pointing out how even just identifying with the Omen was looked at as a "cruel existence". While I think that line sounds like it possibly wasn't translated the best.
The sword doesn't have Claymore's R2. That's a stab, the default R2 for SoM is where it drags on the ground and runs forward. The Ash replaces it with the three hit swings.
ngl these videos have kept me sane during my last semester of college (also no idea who mango is and at this point I'm too scared to ask) looking forward to more from TulokTime
"Rya doesnt know what the Volcano Manor does" "I am Rya, in the service of Lady Tanith of the Volcano Manor. I seek stalwart Tarnished who might join our house. You are very brave yourself. Not only a steady hand, but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind. Such strength is precisely what my mistress seeks. Please, take this." huh?
The reason the Sword of Milos is pierce is because its critical attacks are thrusts. If it chopped into the target from the side like a colossal sword does, it wouldn't have any pierce. Doesn't matter that much for it, but it's neat for other Greatswords because it allows piercing Ashes such as Giant Hunt to be used.
You mentioning how MND helps you resist frenzy makes me realize theres like zero mixing between frenzy and magic use. Like thematically that would be a cool show of horror, to see even those who regularly peer in the theoretically infinite cosmos, to still gaze at the flame and fall to it
You can get the Dung Eater gear before killing a single rememberance boss by doing the Ruptured Crystal tear skip to Leyndell so it's a SECRET STARTING CLASS
New video formats means more chances to try weapons that don’t neatly fit into secret starting classes, like Fallingstar Beast Jaw or Stormhawk Talon. Those are pretty neat, but just examples.
The Poop Stomper ! FINALLY ! ^^ Okay, not to be 'that guy' once again, but I actually thought in the Boggard run "Oh well, he doesn´t know..." Thing is (correct me if this was patched out) - when you go the Dung Eater doll route, right after you administer the potion - wait for his head to slump down - the prerequisite for Seluvis is DONE. But the DE still has a hitbox... You can just KILL him and get all his armor and weapon, PLUS the doll from my least favorite mage. I know it is cheesy (more than) a little, but hey, Miyazaki made it this way ! Man this would have made this a super easy early game for our fecal-friendly serial killer XD PS: Anemia is when you have LITTLE blood, so that would make them bleed LESS (and also weak and feeble). Hemophilia on the other hand means you bleed way MORE, thus dying fast from bleeding wound. This one is what enemies like Mogh have. He WISHES he was anemic, so he won´t bleed so fast.
There is only one sponsor that would work for this video. RAID The bug spray, because after feasting on fecal matter, obviously your number one worry is being sanitary and dealing with pests.
I know the media literacy check is somewhat popular, but you could skip most of it by going for 12-14 scadoosh tree fragments and only getting the ones on your way
Excited about the Bardbrarian revival! Of course, please pace yourself as much as possible. If you’re interested, I’ve got some unfinished ideas for a few species and subclasses collecting dust lol. If nothing else, this comment boosts the algorithm!
If you've seen one-shot challenge videos, they are basically that. The runner just spends like twenty seconds putting on different buffs and then deletes the boss in a single hit.
What is the origin of the "I doubt it... but you never know," clip? It makes me chuckle every time I see it in here and I have no clue where it comes from lol. I tried to do a google but it didn't give me anything. These videos are delightful, as always :) I look forward to more (on this channel and the casual one)
Only person I can think of worse than Dung eater would be shabriri, and thats because he is also a lier, at least dung eater doesn't try and hide who he is
I got Green Day's 2024 album Saviors, and the song Bobby Sox is written like you're trying to ask someone out with a song, but they're gender fluid, so you just cover all your bases.
Dung “I love perpetuating cycles of violence” Eater
Dung "I will end the cycles of violence by committing the most violence" Eater
I dug up a chart of weapon data (motion values and yada yada), and the Sword of Milos deals Pierce damage on backstabs, ripostes, and the dual-wielding backstep L1.
Everything else is Standard damage.
In case anyone was curious.
I was curious, thank you for your service.
@@o7_steak o7
ODD.
Thanks, this really bothered me, too ^^
Yooooo! Tulok finally found the Poop Stomper
Hopefully he uses the proper scooper thrwomper with it
Huge callback W
holy moly
13:00 she literally says "if you have any qualms with killing your own, then I shall find another" she WANTS you to kill. Its implied she intentionally got her necklace stolen to find a tarnished who she could recruit.
She additionally conceals that she's from the Manor until AFTER you give her the necklace, and says "Not only a steady hand but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind." She doesn't know about what Rykard did and the snake town, but she knows the Manor kills tarnished.
Doesn't she say confronting and not killing?
@@skvaderarts7009 Yeah, she says confronting.
The full quote for this part:
"That thug made off with a precious necklace. I need someone to retrieve it.
Only... He, too, is Tarnished. If you've any qualms confronting your own, I shall find another..."
When you hand her the necklace she says:
"Oh, yes, that is my missing necklace. Thank you kindly. I am in your debt.
Did I forget to announce myself?
I am Rya, in the service of Lady Tanith of the Volcano Manor.
I seek stalwart Tarnished who might join our house. You are very brave yourself. Not only a steady hand,
but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind. Such strength is precisely what my mistress seeks.
Please, take this."
I will say the 'merciless even to your own kind' part implied she was looking for a merciless killer which was exactly what volcano manor looks for. While Rya seems very out of the loop on a lot of the lore, she also seems to understand her assignment and has done it often enough she's got a routine for getting folks to Volcano Manor.
Crucially, she doesn't ask you to kill Boggart. It's important, for the Manor's recruitment policy, that you make that decision of your own volition. (Just like how Boggart made the choice to rob her!)
She does *assume* you killed him even if you bought the talisman, which speaks volumes about the company she keeps, but she never requests it.
Yeah, she absolutely does know what Volcano Manor does. I mean, I love that little snake girl, but she GREW UP there. Seriously Tulok, grow up.
It´s impossible she doe snot know this. It is what these guys do day-to-day. Also it is her job to scout people willing to fuck up other Tarnished.
And by the way, saying 'bitch' does not make Boggart a misogynist. He is just an ASSHOLE.
He has the same dialogue for male and female players and once you know him he is kinda buddy buddy. He just is a broken person that insults people and uses abusive language. An asshole ? Yes. Does he hate women ? 'Marika´s TITS' no ! He hates everyone. My hot take here. Everyone except people who like prawn/crab.
Also, I thought he was very rude and killed him the first time I met the guy. And I THOUGHT I was meant to do that - EVERYBODY does think that, since Snake Girl told us to get the necklace in a certain way.
Obviously she expected you to kill him, and looky here I did. I never kill NPCs, not even the trader in DS 2 (althoug the outfit gives you bonus souls from grinding...) But I thought you are MEANT to kill him.
Silly me ! On my next char I found out you are not needed to. Intended by Hidetaka, and intended by Rya. Facts.
Hey Phil, since you debated my comment on the Boggart video I just want to say I see why you think Boggart is a misogynist. I still find it hard but that's due to me being a woman and befriending the guy, so it feels hard to call him that because of my own experiences with him. Rya is still totally scouting for Manor recruits though (Why do you think her title is Scout?), she literally says that it's good that you are able to kill other Tarnished. She just doesn't know about the Manor's secret snake town, she does know about the killing.
Ive always been confused by that I always thought that was the point
What does boggart say that's misogynist? I checked the wiki and all he seemed to say was Rya was stupid for being tricked by him when he got the necklace. But the wiki bleeped out a lot of his swearing so I figured maybe it wasn't transcribed, but checking in game, he called her lucky and stupid. Now I'm thinking the dialogue was updated at some point cause I cant find what he said for the life of me.
The closest I can find is him calling the player a swine for first refusing his to buy the necklace from him then changing their mind.
@@ACEYGAMES if you attack him he says “that bitch put you up to this” or something like that
I love Rya and wish there was an ending for her but I actually like this interpretation because it gives her a bit of complexity besides uwu smol bean. As for Boggart, idk, if I realized that a little necklace I stole was actually a trap laid for me I might call the person a b*tch too, regardless of their gender. Where I don't agree with Tulok is I don't really feel like hating woman is a strong character trait of Boggart--he can say some misogynistic things at times, sure, but I don't think that really defines him as a person.
Yeah, she absolutely does know what Volcano Manor does. I mean, I love that little snake girl, but she GREW UP there. Seriously Tulok, get a grip.
It´s impossible she does not know this. It is what these guys do day-to-day. Also it is her job to scout people willing to fuck up other Tarnished.
And by the way, saying 'bitch' does not make Boggart a misogynist. He is just an ASSHOLE.
He has the same dialogue for male and female players and once you know him he is kinda buddy buddy. He just is a broken person that insults people and uses abusive language. An asshole ? Yes. Does he hate women ? 'Marika´s TITS' no ! He hates everyone. My hot take here. Everyone except people who like prawn/crab.
Also, I thought he was very rude and killed him the first time I met the guy. And I THOUGHT I was meant to do that - EVERYBODY does think that, since Snake Girl told us to get the necklace in a certain way.
Obviously she expected you to kill him, and looky here I did. I never kill NPCs, not even the trader in DS 2 (althoug the outfit gives you bonus souls from grinding...) But I thought you are MEANT to kill him.
Silly me ! On my next char I found out you are not needed to. Intended by Hidetaka, and intended by Rya. Facts.
Someone put the dancer of Rhana on the poll, he's been gettinv too comfortable
Have him use the cestus only, and the blunt one, not the spiked one
I honestly think we’d get by just fine on an EldenRing video every OTHER week. Tulok Time is more entertaining anyway.
Poor phil you can tell homie doesn't wanna keep making elden ring vids so bad
The nuance talk about the prison system and the difference between misanthropy here is super appreciated. I really do hope you can keep the energy for some of these bits.
One important part of lore on the Omen set- The Dung Eater armor isn't specified to be an from an Omen. I am only bringing this up because some of the text on the armor mentions this:
"Malformed helm resembling an Omen with its horns cut off.
Worn by the Dung Eater, their form is a vision of the landscape of his mind, and of his appearance as he wished to see it.
The heart of an omen without the body to match; could there be any crueler existence? What does it matter, then, if the curse claims at all?"
The last sentence making me think that he also had some type of body dysmorphia and this continues with the themes of self loathing and general hatred for everyone, including himself. As well as pointing out how even just identifying with the Omen was looked at as a "cruel existence". While I think that line sounds like it possibly wasn't translated the best.
Surprised no one wanted to sponsor. Not even Miralax. Or Depends, even.
Honestly, if you take out the fact you are cosplaying the dung eater, it’s a good build for ng+ between the good armor and the quality scaling weapon
Followed tuloktime after watching the first video over there. I will subscribe to as many channels as you make Phil.
Here here
BABE NEW TULOK AND MANGO VIDEO DROPPED 9 SECONDS AGO WAKE UP (he's also finally doing the stinky man)
I hope he uses the poop stomper, I'm gonna be mad for no reason if he doesn't.
@toastmaster914 oh he better or we're gonna bust out the pitchforks 😡
"Poop Shit Doodoo Ass" is my new name for placidusax
Posting at lunch time is a decision I personally am not bold enough to do
Finally, the Poopstomper! We've been telling you since the beginning
The piercing heavy is from the Claymore moveset. When you roar, you replace it with the wild swing moveset.
The sword doesn't have Claymore's R2. That's a stab, the default R2 for SoM is where it drags on the ground and runs forward. The Ash replaces it with the three hit swings.
@@gerg905 yep, my bad. The Zweihander is the one ruined by the roar.
Finally the poop stomper video, I adore this guys sword actually he’s so fun
Man I love Thursday
i saw the commissioned dnd video, was really cool that the person who comissioned it linked it on the subreddit!
Thanks phil and mango this poop video really complimented the poop I had to stomp down my toilet after I finished the video ❤
All greatswords have pierce because if you are dual wielding them the backstep attack is a thrust
poopshitdoodooass is some of your best work tulok i approve
people watch the crab video! not only its good, also helps the channel a lot if we support the variety content!
The video was so good, it made me buy the game.
I will say that as much as I love the super long videos, these shorter ones are a little easier to digest.
I, too, busted to the Dung Eater
DUDE! I was just thinking today “I wonder if he’ll make a dung eater episode”. LETS GOO
Dungeater sucks shit, but will he crap out at the Swag Jump?
ngl these videos have kept me sane during my last semester of college (also no idea who mango is and at this point I'm too scared to ask) looking forward to more from TulokTime
Never this early. I only find these vids days later
Yooooo been so excited for your next cardbarian and tulok time videos!
Any hints on what commander your doing your next video on???
I like how you didn't stress the "li-turd-gical town" joke.
"Rya doesnt know what the Volcano Manor does"
"I am Rya, in the service of Lady Tanith of the Volcano Manor.
I seek stalwart Tarnished who might join our house. You are very brave yourself. Not only a steady hand,
but a steady heart, merciless, even to your own kind. Such strength is precisely what my mistress seeks.
Please, take this."
huh?
The Ymir hat-window peek is my favorite part of the week.
Before i even watch the video, i can tell this is going to rock. Strong weapon, strong armor, strong spirit ash
Love the Spaceballs reference! One of my favorite movies!!
The dad jokes get me everytime
The reason the Sword of Milos is pierce is because its critical attacks are thrusts. If it chopped into the target from the side like a colossal sword does, it wouldn't have any pierce.
Doesn't matter that much for it, but it's neat for other Greatswords because it allows piercing Ashes such as Giant Hunt to be used.
The Poopstomper was the angry weirdo we killed along the way. Anyways this seems like a great time to rewatch the funny crab game!
You mentioning how MND helps you resist frenzy makes me realize theres like zero mixing between frenzy and magic use. Like thematically that would be a cool show of horror, to see even those who regularly peer in the theoretically infinite cosmos, to still gaze at the flame and fall to it
Fact:the pierce damage is coming from the backstep attack from dual wielding greatswords for those who don't know
Your crab video made me wanna check out another crabs treasure after I play bloodborne
Still waiting for the day i meet phil at Hard Times or some other local punk show. (And for the crossover with phil of ThatDangDad fame)
"What does the Dung Eater eat?"
AVGN style answer: "AAASSS!"
You can get the Dung Eater gear before killing a single rememberance boss by doing the Ruptured Crystal tear skip to Leyndell so it's a SECRET STARTING CLASS
Been camping the page, glad I can be early to the episode :D
Thank god he finally used the poop stomper!
Thx for making the video i requested 💪🔥🙏
The real dung was the friends made along the way.
I can’t wait for that convergence video
MY LORD. "SITTING ON THE TOILET" TOOK ME BACK
as a metal head i love that hot to go needle drop
New video formats means more chances to try weapons that don’t neatly fit into secret starting classes, like Fallingstar Beast Jaw or Stormhawk Talon. Those are pretty neat, but just examples.
Wow 38 seconds in and we have the Cake Roll. Incredible.
Phil I cackled at the hands bit. Fuckin outstanding.
The Poop Stomper ! FINALLY ! ^^
Okay, not to be 'that guy' once again, but I actually thought in the Boggard run "Oh well, he doesn´t know..." Thing is (correct me if this was patched out) - when you go the Dung Eater doll route, right after you administer the potion - wait for his head to slump down - the prerequisite for Seluvis is DONE. But the DE still has a hitbox...
You can just KILL him and get all his armor and weapon, PLUS the doll from my least favorite mage. I know it is cheesy (more than) a little, but hey, Miyazaki made it this way ! Man this would have made this a super easy early game for our fecal-friendly serial killer XD
PS:
Anemia is when you have LITTLE blood, so that would make them bleed LESS (and also weak and feeble).
Hemophilia on the other hand means you bleed way MORE, thus dying fast from bleeding wound. This one is what enemies like Mogh have. He WISHES he was anemic, so he won´t bleed so fast.
I loved the part where you ate Dung in this video! Keep up the dung eating!
Wow, that moveset after shriek of Milos is cool af. Will give a chance to this sword based in that alone.
There is only one sponsor that would work for this video. RAID
The bug spray, because after feasting on fecal matter, obviously your number one worry is being sanitary and dealing with pests.
FINALLY a Poop Snacker run
I know the media literacy check is somewhat popular, but you could skip most of it by going for 12-14 scadoosh tree fragments and only getting the ones on your way
There’s a “bang the dung eater” joke video floating around TH-cam. It’s hilarious.
We going to the For-Harris lands with this one boys 🎉
I was expecting a Fart-e-sax joke, but Forti-shats works, too 😂
Excited about the Bardbrarian revival! Of course, please pace yourself as much as possible. If you’re interested, I’ve got some unfinished ideas for a few species and subclasses collecting dust lol. If nothing else, this comment boosts the algorithm!
I checked out your other channel. Enjoyed the crab souls video.
The boggart build comes back with a second harvest.
“Almost takes our first stock” was that… A Smash Bros reference?!?!
Double tulok time with tuloktime yippee!!
Tulok on the last day of my cruise hell yeah
So, I am incredibly depressed, and while I always find your jokes funny, I don't actually laugh all that much anymore. 8:45 had me cackle! Bravo
Busted builds to remember: Dung Eater.
Let's see if I'm gonna regret eating while watching this
Edit: I laughed like an absolute doofus over the Johnny Asshand joke, good sh*t.
Yay highlight of the week
finally the poop stomper
Since weapon builds are getting too easy it’s time to go back to suffering through spell builds… (still gotta do a Renalla build)
This video? Great!
finally the legendary poopstomper stompin poop
I have a faith build, I offhand dung eater sword and run the stacking trinket for mana kills regularly for a long sustain
"The Mad Taint" for next secret starting class?
I will definitely hop on your other channels to support you not having to just play elden ring 300 more times lol
Can you imagine doing all the Buffs, plus the Debuffs?! The game would feel like ripping through wet tissue paper!
If you've seen one-shot challenge videos, they are basically that. The runner just spends like twenty seconds putting on different buffs and then deletes the boss in a single hit.
It feels like I haven't heard Lazytown/Lil Jon in forever
Dung eater go brr
Missed opportunity to name the video "this build DOESN'T take s**t from no one"
I thought that “the loathsome” was a part of his name until I played the game
You could do DS3 or BB too!
I'm glad he's not going to talk about magic again.(I write as I begin the video)
Can't wait for the rakshasa elden ring build
the Dung Eater crushes As tel it dies all the way to hell
i fully support the rya support
What is the origin of the "I doubt it... but you never know," clip? It makes me chuckle every time I see it in here and I have no clue where it comes from lol. I tried to do a google but it didn't give me anything. These videos are delightful, as always :) I look forward to more (on this channel and the casual one)
Only person I can think of worse than Dung eater would be shabriri, and thats because he is also a lier, at least dung eater doesn't try and hide who he is
I literally only came for the media literacy check
Love the Smelly Boi, very sad we don't get media literacy checked
I got Green Day's 2024 album Saviors, and the song Bobby Sox is written like you're trying to ask someone out with a song, but they're gender fluid, so you just cover all your bases.
Been waiting months for this
The sword's stance break crit animation is a stab, maybe that's the pierce damage??
I found it ITS THE BACK STAP ON NPCS OMG
That’s price damage
I think Goldfrey should be called Velveeta Godfrey this is my attempt to make it catch on