Pt 4 - Dr. Ting Details MSE Aesthetic Changes, and Correcting Facial Height

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2020
  • Part 4 of my interview with Dr. Ting, the world's most experienced MSE provider.
    What is MSE?
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    Dr. Richard Ting, DDS
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  • @david_tovar
    @david_tovar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Changing-life channel. Good on you Ronald.

  • @pissapalli3977
    @pissapalli3977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you for making these videos Ronald.

  • @54321Adela
    @54321Adela 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Ting has blown my mind again, definitely asking about upper teeth intrusion to improve my lower jaw!!!

  • @wow3486
    @wow3486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should also interview your orthodontist that did the mse treatment with you

  • @danielleholland2143
    @danielleholland2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great video! It's exciting to hear about all the ways to reduce facial height. A mm here, a mm there, combine a few methods and suddenly your face isn't looking too bad. :D

  • @Chris-eo1bp
    @Chris-eo1bp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wish all my Mew bros the best of luck!

  • @perseuscameron
    @perseuscameron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My man is back!

  • @tha1thaonlythatsme
    @tha1thaonlythatsme ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where on gods green earth can I find a provider like dr.ting! I’m in the Dallas Texas area & I desperately need an ortho that does mse and uses tads to correct open bites! He literally gave a solution to every problem I have. I have a open bite and vertical downward growth. With the use of tads to intrude the molars to swing my lower jaw forward and close my open bite would be a dream! It would shorten my face but also close my open bite a lot faster!

    • @sanemonk1
      @sanemonk1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm in dallas too. did you find one yet?

    • @Chinita444
      @Chinita444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Melanie L. Throne, DDS, PA

  • @bigsnack
    @bigsnack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely awesome interview!!!! Dr. Ting is a bit of a drive for my family, but close enough that I'm willing to do it if either of my kids need airway related treatment.

    • @JawHacks
      @JawHacks  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      indeed, patients local to Dr. Ting are very lucky

    • @jasonn_lifts
      @jasonn_lifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am 50 minutes away

  • @kilic_
    @kilic_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content!

  • @gabriellameattray9778
    @gabriellameattray9778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:30 alright so I'm a 16 year old girl, hopefully an appliance will be enough to guide my lower jaw to grow forward. This is all the more reason to get it done ASAP...

  • @xxsamperrinxx3993
    @xxsamperrinxx3993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This interview is brilliant thanks again 😊.
    I was wondering though wouldn't intruding the upper teeth with the goal of bringing the lower jaw into a better position only be a bandaid solution to the maxilla being too low or downswung ?

    • @peheros_
      @peheros_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't even know at this point, since people with masseters stronger than their tongue tend to have the same outcome. It's not an aesthetically unpleasing nor unnatural result, so i think it's a pretty ok solution.

  • @spiscold50
    @spiscold50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    5:15 Lifefuel for me man

    • @jasonn_lifts
      @jasonn_lifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FAX BRU😂😂😂😂. I literally jumped up from halpiness

  • @thechallenge293
    @thechallenge293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pls ask if facemask and mse can be used in adult to correct a minor class iii and if yes does the doc have some sample of cases he treated! Thanks you

  • @gautamt5014
    @gautamt5014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I find some of the stuff he's saying quite unbelievable especially about reducing the facial height. And how 1mm intrusion can reduce facial height dramatically. That sounds f*cking incredible. Need to see some examples of this! And need to know whether Dr. ting is the only one that does this?

    • @spiscold50
      @spiscold50 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MSE+Facemask is underrated

    • @fatimav441
      @fatimav441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @A K who the hell is moon?

    • @fatimav441
      @fatimav441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @A K Omg How rude of me!

    • @angelsky6869
      @angelsky6869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spiscold50 it is? Why do you say that?

    • @blockbuster1979
      @blockbuster1979 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. A lot of what Ting says in this video is unbelievable and ridiculous

  • @blockbuster1979
    @blockbuster1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ting says nobody has complained about the aesthetic changes. I had MSE and did not like the aesthetic changes! Bulky cheek bones, less facial symmetry. These are undesireable cosmetic changes that are common with MSE

    • @qoby
      @qoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you go into more detail?

    • @blockbuster1979
      @blockbuster1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@qoby about the aesthetic changes? With cheek bones, the goal aesthetically should be to have high and forward cheek bones (not wide). MSE will likely make your cheek bones wider and less symmetrical. It looks worse. I got MSE and I look worse now than I did before MSE.

    • @qoby
      @qoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blockbuster1979 thanks. Sorry to hear that. Guess that depends on how narrow your face is to begin with?

    • @blockbuster1979
      @blockbuster1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qoby maybe. I would argue that in most cases, MSE will make you look worse, because a wider and less symmetrical face is not aesthetic.

    • @phatbui8924
      @phatbui8924 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blockbuster1979 who did your MSE case?

  • @mariamahani3684
    @mariamahani3684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it a good idea to use braces example (invislign) to tip teeth outwards expand teeth outwards? wil it make a bit of a fuller/wider looking face?

  • @mrgoddammit
    @mrgoddammit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super informative

  • @Hhjhfu247
    @Hhjhfu247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He was suprised by aesthetic changes
    Btw everything for CCW rotation

    • @KenGold666
      @KenGold666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is a CCW rotated craniofacial complex what makes brad Pitt good looking?

    • @Hhjhfu247
      @Hhjhfu247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenGold666 yes cause his midface is compact and gonial angle quite low.
      If you have decent forward growth, compact midface, and above average fwhr and won't be bloated you at 98% will be above average handsome looking.

  • @gabriellameattray9778
    @gabriellameattray9778 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:00 does MSE bring the mandinle/maxilla forward or only widen? Because I want my tongue out of my airway!

  • @acousticalien
    @acousticalien ปีที่แล้ว

    When the lower jaw swings forward does it help with recessed chin?

  • @submarooo4319
    @submarooo4319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wait so expanding appliances worsen the face aesthetic

  • @victoreight3158
    @victoreight3158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's your IMW ronald? What's the best way to measure it?

    • @danielleholland2143
      @danielleholland2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most accurate is with a mold and dial caliper. th-cam.com/video/-6IcjRUdHDM/w-d-xo.html
      But most people for everyday purposes will bite into cardboard or a hunk of cheese and put a ruler to the indentation (measuring inwards from the inside of the first molars like Mike explains in that video).
      Interested in hearing Ron's IMW as well - it's gotta be in the mid-40s I bet.

  • @alil3231
    @alil3231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the address for his orthodontist please?

  • @danielleholland2143
    @danielleholland2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd recommend amplifying your audio and placing ads at the end of sentences/sections because the ads would BLARE me out of nowhere with my volume at 100%, lol.

    • @JawHacks
      @JawHacks  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh man, yeah i don't mess with add placement that's wayyyyyy too much work. i barely edit videos.

    • @danielleholland2143
      @danielleholland2143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JawHacks Never too late to start :p

  • @93683409
    @93683409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Ting is like Ken Jeong but with a more masculine jawline

  • @spiscold50
    @spiscold50 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need CCW so bad

  • @yoyo-gv8zs
    @yoyo-gv8zs ปีที่แล้ว

    How i wish they were people like him in England :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((( IM STRUGGLING

  • @disillusioned2710
    @disillusioned2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, what would be the best angle to pull with for a 16 yr old? (For the mse hooks)

    • @nathanlang8345
      @nathanlang8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +30

    • @disillusioned2710
      @disillusioned2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanlang8345 thanks,source?

    • @nathanlang8345
      @nathanlang8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deadlyman 121 there was a study done on protraction with MARPE and based on the anterior positioning of the MSE, +30
      Is ideal

    • @disillusioned2710
      @disillusioned2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanlang8345 that was not marpe, that was n2 implant, mse is not positioned anteriorly. Most probably the angle would be +30, but I want to confirm, I think he will ask him in upcoming vids, anyways thanks for the reply.

    • @nathanlang8345
      @nathanlang8345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deadlyman 121 Im getting it w ting and he said angle doesn’t even matter but I think +30 is safest. And where is MSE positioned? Pretty sure you can’t position things in back of palate since it’s soft

  • @AshishHekre
    @AshishHekre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does me work after the age of 30

  • @bmh2570
    @bmh2570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what u and dr.ting mean by turns?

  • @mansoori6650
    @mansoori6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will the TADS shorten the midface, if you have a gummy smile though?

    • @Hhjhfu247
      @Hhjhfu247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You probably dont understand where midface is

  • @Bigdom420
    @Bigdom420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your site isn’t working?

  • @shigwig9751
    @shigwig9751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is facepulling going to be discussed

  • @Bigdom420
    @Bigdom420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is he located in ny

    • @angelac9694
      @angelac9694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rancho Santa Margarita. About 50 miles south of Los Angeles

  • @kseniyazarubina5484
    @kseniyazarubina5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have underdeveloped maxilla, but my mandible is much worse, If I do this one, I'll look like yoshi :(

    • @spiscold50
      @spiscold50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BSSO or IMDO after

    • @indoeuropeanmithras
      @indoeuropeanmithras 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SPIsCold. imdo would be good but it’s fucking impossible to find someone to do it

    • @DanPorterMusic
      @DanPorterMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@indoeuropeanmithras Sergio Gonzales otero in Spain

    • @angelsky6869
      @angelsky6869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who’s that? Yoshi

  • @doodoo7207
    @doodoo7207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that blue guy is so symetrical