"You're Deceived By Satan" | Ex Christian Responds
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- Have you ever been told that your unbelief in god is due to satan's grip on your life? Christians often tell me I'm deceived by the enemy, and that they are praying for me to gain understanding before it's too late.
But is being deceived a moral shortcoming? Is it a crime to be tricked into believing something that isn't true? In this video I'll unpack the common accusation thrown at ex-christians and unbelievers and make the case for why I don't think god-if he exists- would ever punish you for being deceived.
Please keep in mind that all everything I say here is my subjective opinion, and is intended to deconstruct fundamentalist/evangelical/conservative Christian ideologies from an ex christian perspective
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It's absolutely remarkable how illogical religious thinking clearly is once we begin to ask questions.
one really has to "dumb themselves down" to believe the nonsense.
If Satan punishes you, then Satan is God's agent and helper.
@@bobgreenfield9158 Satan used to be God’s helper. He was an angel but because of his pride he was kicked out of heaven and casted into hell. God sends people to hell if they do not believe in Him. But the good news is that Jesus died on the cross and rose on the third day for your sins. If you trust in Jesus and submit to him, you will be considered righteous by God and you shall inherit eternal life.
@RobKoch1962 Contrary to your belief, Christianity is not just a bunch of fairytales. The Bible is historical truths written down as well as well as eyewitness accounts of Jesus’s life, death, and resurrection. It’s a proven fact Jesus died on the cross and rose again. Don’t go around saying there’s no evidence of Christianity when you haven’t even researched.
@Jay-oj4hj Your religion's explanation for satan doesn't make any sense and certainly doesn't absolve your god of complete responsibility for satan and every human destined for hell. Your god is supposed to be all-knowing. If it is all-knowing then it already knew for a fact what would happen to satan before it made him. Yet god did it anyway. Very evil god if you believe christian religious doctrine.
I've always wondered why we would be eternally cursed for Eve being deceived. It wasn't her fault
Eve was set up in the worst possible way.
She lay with Nachash and conceived Caine from him. The first sin was lust and second murder.
Caine seed is the serpant seed the El ite of El’s Tribe rub in your face everywhere.
And she offered to sacrifice herself for her error after but Adam said stuck by her as his love was that much for her. It’s quite a beautiful story.
Their were two trees the tree of knowledge and the tree of life.
The tree of no wedge was forbidden as we were a new creation like children.
Same way you protect your children from certain knowledge that’s too heavy for them. You aren’t depriving them but protecting their innocence.
When we became aware of evil and good without understanding it’s consequences we couldn’t eat from the tree of life and have eternal life without learning why good is good and evil is evil.
Can you imagine humans living forever in this fallen stage. It’s a mess with the short life span we have anyway.
Don't be deceived -- all over again-- and in so doing follow in the footsteps of Eve ....
A curse was put upon eve on account of her disobedience. Don't imagine for a second that deception and rebellion are not intertwined-- for they most certainly are intertwined.
You see, you're a victim of deception right now -- thinking you will not stand before the judgment seat of Christ-- which you will.
God holds you accountable for that (even though you're deceived).
You do not love the knowledge of the truth. That is your main problem.
If Satan deceived me, that would mean he's more powerful than God.
Fools Satan concepts is created by Christian peoples to destroy previous religion before christanity.
Real God never said he is Satan and worship me. Real God is omnipresent, one in All.
That’s cuz you don’t have faith in God. Satan don’t have to deceive you, you put your thoughts and feelings above God.
@@thangmm9721what about God humble himself and reveal himself to us in our dreams to guide us
@@thangmm9721That person obviously doesn’t believe in your god or Satan, please remain respectful. :)
@@Jumpingonpaws Than tell that dude to no talk about something he dont understand? and respect other religion? but ur telling me to be respectful?
It is so refreshing to see such a young person be so clear-minded and so well-reasoned. I am 65 and am surrounded by young and younger people whose minds are totally consumed by dogmatic religious rhetoric. I wish you the best!
I believe in a supernatural creator. Do show how that's "dogmatic religious rhetoric." 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block Belief in “a supernatural creator” is more of an “illusion” than “dogmatic religious rhetoric”, unless you have some creditable evidence.
@@RankinImagery says the person who clearly ignored the evidence I gave.
@@2fast2block sounds more like pseudo-science reasoning to me, but if it provides comfort to you, run with it
@@RankinImagery you provide NO evidence. You do lie though.
I’ve been duped for 47 years. This content is very helpful.
🩷 happy you've found freedom
Very helpful
No we've been deceived by Satan perpetrated as loving God
I'm officially gone and cut from the faith. I feel bad for my mom who has hopes in heaven and will cry tears of sorrow when she finds out God was the devil.
31 years here
I remember I was going to extreme lengths to justify the things god allowed and did according to the Bible. I was saying things like “Well he’s god so he can do it if he wants to” “there are spiritual implications to our actions and they can’t go unpunished” “it needed to happen because of gods plan” etc.
Now I am able to take a step back and realized how insane I sounded. It was very clear I was desperately trying to suppress the cognitive dissonance I was experiencing.
How did you make it past the first verse of the bible about God creating? Do tell how it happened on its own. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block
"Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point."
You first need to show that the supernatural actually exists because your argument depends on it. No definitive evidence for the supernatural has ever been disclosed by anyone.
@@huffdaddy3845 you got around nothing I gave. You showed nothing to show it's not correct. Yeah, but you WILL face your doom because you love living with your head in the sand.
Congratulations on being able to have decreased cognitive dissonance
@@2fast2block
You did nothing to show you _are_ correct.
I'm Agnostic. I come from generations of pastors, ministers, etc. on both sides of my family. I am outnumbered. They are convinced the devil has feasted upon my soul and now lives within my skin & bone. I call such statements "church-speak". They tell me there is no room for science in belief and I should just have faith. More church-speak. Organized religion is there for control, mind control. I love what you're doing. It's necessary.
I wonder how they think they are living with in the world without science? 🤔
Your courage and integrity are inspirational! I hope you can find other people who are familiar with unconditional love, and appreciate how extraordinary you are in many generations of two families of stuck, fearful people. Too fearful to challenge their own beliefs. Too lacking in integrity to work through cognitive dissonance. There are interesting documentaries on TH-cam about the nature, and neurology, of belief. 😊
Looking into my ancestry, I was totally surprised to find wall-to-wall Methodist ministers and lay preachers on both sides of the family! Needless to say, fixed religion didn't continue in the family, as they liked to study and understand different cultures and perspectives, which provided objectivity. The current living generations are now all atheist or agnostic, fortunately for us! Being viewed as the evil black sheep must be terrible!
Reading from others causes more confusion. God doesn't punish me because I can't get over alcohol. HE STILL blesses me because DAILY, HE is always on my mind!
"...They tell me there is no room for science in belief and I should just have faith..."
As a Christian myself I disagree with that view. I think true science points toward God's existence. I recommend Daily Dose Of Wisdom to you. He's a former atheist who turned Christian and his channel focuses on science, philosophy, and some history to point out the one true faith and the one true living God of the Bible as being real. Christianity is not just another religion, it's reality. God bless. ✝️
@daniellamcgee4251 The funny thing is that much of modern science owes a lot to believers in God, Christians. Including the 'Big Bang Theory'.
I was always angry at God yelling " WHY MAKE ME & PUT ME HERE JUST FOR YOU TO WATCH ME SUFFER AND IN PAIN , I DIDN'T ASK TO BE CREATED TO BE HERE !!" ....then i found YOU !! I turned away from church and more and more answers are coming to me . THE VERY ONES I NEEDED ANSWERS TO ... THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH ❤😊❤
God didn't put you here to watch you suffer. We suffer because of our fallen state and we refuse God's grace. Once I gave into Jesus my life has been blessed immensely
💚Exactly! A Buddhist would explain the same thing but in another way though.
💚If you’re existence seems pointless and suffering is too much, that doesn’t mean you’re not going to react to the suffering and thus cause even more suffering.
It doesn’t have to be about your relationship with God. It can merely be about how your going to transcend suffering and Christianity has a good way but you’re tripping on the magical packaging that is unimportant like the question of God’s existence is not necessarily important but it is important if that’s how your going to transcend suffering.
Have you ever tried insight meditation from the Buddhist tradition? What about kindness meditation?
Jesus loves you ❤
Excellent response! I left Christianity 4 years ago and I had developed a lot of similar arguments, but never articulated them so concisely. I’m subscribing - nice work, and keep up the fight for freedom!
@Sully Your love is always conditional.
@Sully yeah, my Christian relatives love me so much they won't even have anything to do with me
No matter how we view it the Bible is still fact not fiction ?
@@noneofyourbusinessna740 A question mark after your statement? Guess you don't buy the religious b.s. either.
@@Amazing_Markthe "love" that xtians brag about is purposed to be spiteful , malicious , manipulative , & psychologically wicked.
the xtian "love" is all about control , dominion & being subordinate to self-righteous , self-justified hypocrites who will instantly & seriously force you to be the object of their scorn , malice & filth
I’m so proud of you, and I’m glad that I’ve had the opportunity to watch your journey unfold.
Thanks so much friend 😊
Your approval means nothing Gerald Coffer. To forsake God's approval and gain man's is a deadly snare.
“There is a way which seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.” (Proverbs 14:12, WEBP)
@@servantofmessiah1071 You sound like a crazy person.
@@bigcheese1618 You obviously do not understand what I said. I said the approval of man (including Gerald Coffer, or myself, or another other person) means nothing in the face of eternity. What a person needs is God's approval, not man's.
"Trust in Yahweh with all your heart,
and don’t lean on your own understanding.
In all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make your paths straight." (Proverbs 3:5-6)
"It is better to take refuge in Yahweh,
than to put confidence in man." (Psalm 118:8)
"Some trust in chariots, and some in horses,
but we trust in the name of Yahweh our God." (Psalm 20:7)
@@servantofmessiah1071 You're aware the people who watch Kristi's videos probably do not give a crap or are immune to insane people like you, yes? Don't waste your time here. No one's listening no matter how many times you reply to everyone's comments.
Now I think I've seriously become addicted to your content. You have a beautiful way of making your point - as simple and eloquent as possible and no simpler. If a Christian has no argument for your points other than "you've been deceived", then they have no intellectual right to be sure of their own footing.
Please keep making these wonderful and thought-provoking videos.
I believe this life is to be lived without guilt or shame. (Responsibility and accountability, yes! But not guilt or shame). Thank you for your posts, this helps me much. I stepped away from the Catholic Church but still suffer the guilt and shame part that I mentioned. It’s good to hear someone validate my feelings about questioning the beliefs I held for so many years.
I am so glad you have helped me deconstruct so much! Thank you for making me realize I can still be a good person even without religion. ❤️
You absolutely can be good without god. I would argue even better without god. You've got this ❤ I'm rooting for you
@@jezebelvibes thank you! And my dad fully supports my decision. I actually feel happier being an agnostic.
With or without religion, no one is good but God alone. The very reason we need Jesus is to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” (John 3:36, KJV)
@@servantofmessiah1071 amen 😇
Do not be deceived read the scriptures Jesus talks seeds some fall on good soil and grow other fall and grow for a certain point then are choked and killed by weeds and some fall on the road we’re they never do grow. this is speaking of the person being a believer a true believer grows in Christ a fake believer make at one point think they are saved but then after a point they deny Christ due to the weeds which are due to sin and lies they choose to believe and others refuse to ever grow because they refuse to know Christ. Go’s isn’t a religion he isn’t requiring a religion with u instead God wants a relationship with u. We can not enter heaven by good deeds only one way to heaven that’s through Christ who died for the sins of man.
The way you articulate all this is phenomenal .I applaud you on so many levels !! You and me share a similar deconstruction phase .I married a Calvinist christian,and I grew up very southern Baptist from birth and the Calvinist doctrine really started my deconstruction journey.I was like ,how can a god that is so "Loving" go "iny miny miny mow pick a human by the toe" for all eternity ... doesn't makes sense and is surely not worthy of worship !!
Correct! That’s why Calvinism (no offense to your significant other) is a false doctrine.
Matthew 13 16-23
16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
My boss tried telling me yesterday that "god knows all paths but doesn't know which path ur gonna chose" to which I replied, "how could he be all knowing but not know which path I'm going to chose? U don't see the hypocrisy?" He doesn't see...
I'm an atheist, but I'm with the theists on this one. I think it's reasonable to define "all knowing" as knowing everything that logically could be known. If the future's not determined, then it's not something that could logically be known. If there was a god that knew everything that was, is, and could be, then despite not knowing exactly what will be, I'd consider it reasonable to call that "all knowing". I'm just not convinced there is such a god.
Ex christian, now pagan i really appreciate your breakdown of this false teaching. More people need to think for themselves. I applaud you for your free thinking!
Could you tell me more about your journey and how you’re finding paganism. Why paganism? What drove you there/ what was your thought process.
Also consider scientific pantheism. It also looks to nature and has similarities to paganism except without the magical thinking.
The term 'magical thinking' is used here in a philosophical sense referring to supernatural beliefs of any kind. Magical thinking is also a weakness of most religions so the idea is to avoid jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
@@douglascutler1037 The realm of spirituality has always been of interest to me. I believe in God as a benevolent spirit. God can't be proven, nor would I try. But we all have a right to own our own personal beliefs/spiritual truths, and a mortal responsibility to respect other's if no harm is done. I do relate to many aspects of various religions, especially the one to which I most identify. But I do question, I research. I try to think critically, but also give credence and value to the more non tangible thoughts and experiences that come my way. I have disbeliefs and doubts. Always have; expect I always will, and I'm grateful for my questioning nature. Many aspects of Pantheism, Panentheism and Spiritual Animation concepts speak to me in many ways.
@@barbarawinkle1042 When thinking about the world I like to stick to scientific and critical-minded methodologies.
But I'm also a life-long meditator. In meditation I like to go straight for the off switch on the internal dialogue, bring my thoughts to a stand still. Kind of like an eternal now because without thought there is no past or future, only the moment.
How matter produces consciousness is still a huge mystery to science. But in deep meditation, consciousness ceases to be a problem because you 'become' consciousness. At least for a little while.
Einstein was pantheist. Didn't believe in a personal or supernatural God but still related to metaphorical 'God talk' to the extent it evokes the sheer wonder and mystery of existence.
I went the other direction. Ex-Christian, now spiritualist. There is life after death, the bible just messed it up for so many.
When you start to deconstruct, it ALL comes crashing down. Thank you.
One of the questions that helped me break away years ago. If the punishment is so severe, why then is God so unclear and so unconvincing? At that point it's on him.
No, it's on you. God has ALL the evidence. You can't even explain how creation can happen on its own with ANY evidence. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
Real!
This is a well articulated and beautiful video! Great job, I’ve been a non believer for a while now and I understand that people will look down upon you because they truly believe you are being deceived by Satan. I never knew how to take that, but I stuck with my intuition and stopped myself from ever believing I was actually being deceived. That would be a terrible mix for certain individuals who still have a huge fear towards Satan. It’s honestly a traumatic tactic to get a person to stick with the opposing sides faith. I’m confident and feel free in what I believe in & I accept that I don’t know what the real truth of this crazy life we have is. I just know that when I die I’m not going to suffer for eternity by just being a human being who didn’t ask to be here anyways. LIVE YOUR LIFE WITH NO MENTAL RELIGIOUS BLOCKS AND OPEN YOUR MIND
Satan IS deceiving her, and you.
@@artstation707 Well when you see him politely ask him to stop 🥺
@@nev3336 He hops from one body to another. He also stops when ordered to. He's not the brightest tool in the box, though.
Everything you said is sooooo exact to my experience, you are absolutely spot-on and honest. Love how you break it down and make it easy to understand. Thank you so much for what you do. Hopefully your video's will help others break from their chains of religion.
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Where was the part where she has evidence we got all this on its own? 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
Yeah I wondered why they say I’ll get punished for being deceived, bc if he’s omniscient then he knew I was being deceived and still let it happen 🤨
if some deceived you then that was a choice they made but God also tell us to be aware has well to not be fooled by lies to be always ready because satan is like a hungry lion waiting to devour anybody he can this is why knowing the Lord is important because if u go through life not aware of satan and how he uses others to deceive they it’s your own fault for not wanting the knowledge God gave to us.
@@adrianquinonez6667 good thing I don’t believe in God nor Satan, what you said still doesn’t justify me being punished for someone else’s behaviour. If I really need to believe in God, he should’ve made it more convincing for me to
You have all the proof and evidence you will ever need in the "new birth". Jesus is saying this to you right now,
"unless your are born again, you CAN NOT SEE OR ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD." (John 3:3)
If you fell into deception it is because you rejected the love of the truth that you might be saved. (2 Thess. 2:10)
Yes! At church I was actually willingly told that god lets you be deceived, because satan only has power if god allows it. So basically, I was just expected to be ok with the fact that god willingly deceived me, then blamed me for being deceived.
Religion is the greatest con every conceived by man.
Yet a relationship with Jesus is the greatest truth every known to man.
@@christophergibson7155 but what about Allah tooth fairy flying spaghetti monster how is Jesus more true than they are?
@@TotalAnalyst2 The only proof and evidence you will ever need is this: "the new birth." Jesus is saying to you and everyone else, "...unless you are born again YOU CAN NOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD." Until that experience happens in your life, you can most certainly contineu to mock and scoff about the fairy tale of the flying spaghetti monster.
Seriously quotes come up with actual proof
The only proof you need of the Flying spaghetti monster is this
Boils Chapter 5 verse 2
Unless you accept the Flying spaghetti monster as your lord and savior you cannot be saved from the Boling water please accept his love and mercy.
@@TotalAnalyst2 Because of the hardness of your heart and your love for your sin; is what is keeping you from knowing the Savior Jesus.
But if you come to the light, your deeds will be exposed and Jesus will forgive and cleanse you, and will give you eternal life in the kingdom of God. You must repent, (turn around, have a change of mind and heart toward sin and self), then TOTALLY TRUST
JESUS to save you. He is ever so faithful !
I've been searching for something to release the suffocating grip of fear that I'm being deceived. Your insight is THE BEST I've found yet and may actually help me sleep at night. I'm going to save it and replay it often until it sinks in!! Thank you so very much.
I'm sorry you've been experiencing so much fear. Wishing you a lot of peace and healing🩷
Many religious people keep saying that the lord is coming but still nothing happens. They’ve been saying this for centuries and that’s why I’m realizing what world we really live on.
The bible even states how Jesus told his deciples (while levitating to the clouds) that some of them (the deciples) will never taste death until he comes back. It's been centuries now. Another false prophecy.
@@thabangmakhayi8962 you taking the scripture out of context,
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They also waited for centuries to see the messiah , many died without seeing the prophecy but eventually after so many years,the messiah appeared.
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No one knows the exact time when Jesus will appear again. But the prophecies are an indication that we are in the last days now.
@@baloyishane3223 I could say the same thing about you, that you are taking the bible out of context, it's so sad how Christians can never think they are taking the words out of context. They are convinced that the other person is wrong and their view on the word is the correct one 🚮. And when you say they waited for centuries and he came back, where is the proof for that? And how come the world ddnt end, coz as you said, the day nor the hour is known whereby the the savior will come and he will not be coming like a dove in the first appearance, the earth will be shaken, the moon blah blah blah, etc. (I added some words from the bible that u ddnt say urself). If Jesus came, and these things ddnt happen( that's a huge assumption that he did come back), that still means the prophecy ddnt come true. But what I said before wasnt a lie, Jesus indeed told his deciples that some won't taste death until his second coming, he hasn't come yet, and the deciples have been dead centuries ago
What are talking about? you don't have to wait centuries to know God is real , just wait until you die which is less than 80 years give or take.
Exactly! Any day now... seriously, I can feel it... I'm setting my alarm clock... lol
Left Christianity at 13 years old. I'm 25 in the year 2023 and I've heard all the rhetoric. But when I talk to those fools who try to sell that faith, I put a dent in theirs.
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You are so right ..girl
I was raised upc
I spent most of my young years terrified of the rapture and hell
No matter how we see it the Bible is still fact not fiction ?
@@noneofyourbusinessna740we truly don't know
@ted200582, It is very strange that the people who are so afraid of hell and persecution, that they then make a vital decision by fleeing from The Lord God and that leads them to the very condemnation to eternal hell! It's pure suicide. A stubborn person who thinks he has chosen freedom - will be disappointed, you will end up in a trap of the deceiver lucifer and his demons. Then try to get out of it on your own. Do you now understand why we need The Lord Jesus Christ? for the forgiveness of our sins and deliverance and healing of the evil spirits.
I love watching your views, and you have encouraged me to be free in sharing them just as believers are free to “witness”
❤❤
Your'e a great speaker. You drew me in from TikTok and now really enjoy your longer talks on TH-cam. Please keep them coming!
Thank you for saying that 🥰 so happy to have your support.
Satan is a great speaker, too. He spoke so eloquently and led the entire world into rebellion. Being a great speaker is of no merit if the person does not know the way. And what is the way? Jesus is the way. There is only one God.
“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6, KJV)
@@servantofmessiah1071 Keep watching her vids, you'll get there 👍
@@servantofmessiah1071 why doesn't god just get rid of Satan then? Ohhhh or is your point that God is less powerful than Satan and that's why?!!
@@kirstywillowlove Satan is "permitted" in order to test the hearts of humans. The tree in the middle of the Garden of Eden was also a test to see if Adam and Eve would obey. We are commanded to resist temptation. Temptation is all around us. We should resist it. Then, we will be telling God that we are on his side. God did not create robots. We have a free will. Those who freely choose to love God are the ones that he will accept. (One day, Satan will be done away with. This is all in the Bible.) Thank you. Have a good day.
Thanks for this video. I'm still in the "what if I'm wrong" stage, but this helps.
Just keep asking questions!
Satan deceives by asking questions, not by providing facts. He did so in the garden and to Jesus in the wilderness. Seek the kingdom and enjoy it for eternity by opening your heart, through prayer, to hear truth. You may have to be patient, but the truth will come and it will set you free.
Omg this makes sooooooo much sense girl and it’s so refreshing to hear this. Left Christianity a year ago bc too many things just were not adding up. Now I’m just living my life how I want lol, I consider myself agnostic now, I think there may be a higher power out there but I’m not too sure what it is & I don’t depend on it anymore. I’m just doing me & it feels so good
We arrive here on earth one day and our journey starts, if God is real and all powerful then it's possible to connect with Him in your own way without anyone's say how, just find Him by yourself.
Yes, if you think maybe...that can lead to a struggle. Either way is tough but a little of both is tougher. All the best
@@IgshaanBarnes-pk5uoNice. Only a few people can point the straight and narrow path but to walk it alone is even harder. There's only a handful, mostly people pretend for church sake. That's why we messed up.
Saaammme
@@jasfan8247 Well, if it doesn't lead to actual, literal fulfilment, of John 14:12 - or even of Matthew 17:20 - then I do not, altogether, see the point, maybe?
After all - most other things, are not unique, to Christendom, after that.
Others walk a mile in people's shoes, or with them - and feed the hungry, and give shelter, etc. See maybe Mahavira, and Jainism - for one?
And if only a few people can do it - and walk a narrow, maybe even 'predestinated' (ahem) path - then what's the idea that it was set up, effectively? Or described, effectively?
A good reason, maybe, why John 14:12, should again, be fulfilled, by many Christians - perhaps? ('These things - and GREATER, than I - shall you do' - sic)
And no, you are not responsible, for Luther, Calvin, Augustine, Pope Paul III, and Torquemada - ah, 'messing up' (which is, somewhat, of an understatement)
And also, I'm not sure that they, wholly are - either.
Because, who saw exactly what they were doing, and getting into - but, kept, rather quiet, about it, continually? And indeed 'sees all'...?
Or was short, on advice, or correction...?
Recently deconverted from Christianity and I NEVER thought I'd say that. I realized how flippantly I dismissed the evidences of other faiths while giving mine the benefit of the doubt. That's a double standard. It was only fair that I put my own beliefs under that same amount of scrutiny. In short, they didn't hold up.
Kristi, your TikToks and YT videos have helped me put into words some of the things that I couldn't. Thank you for sharing! Looking forward to future videos.
I'm so happy you found your freedom of thought. It's crazy to be on the other side looking in, isn't it? You can see all of the cognitive dissonance and biases you held to maintain the belief. It's tough to recognize, but at least we made it to the other side 😊
@@jezebelvibes all thanks to some Mormons that came to my door 😂
Yes, the cognitive dissonance melted away.
@@bendreed9 Mormons was started by Freemasons and is a Masonic based belief system?
All these things they will do (like "deconverting") because they do not know me, says the Lord. If you knew him, you certainly would not deconvert, because he's near to all who call upon his name (Psalm 145:18).
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I love how your videos stay in my mind and keep me thinking about how much christianity does not make any sense
It makes perfect sense and is the Way,the Truth and The Life. Viva Cristo Rey!
Makes perfect sense. Jesus rose from the dead and offers eternal life to all who call upon his name. What's not to like?
@@servantofmessiah1071 I’d genuinely rather skin myself alive than even have eternal life
@@servantofmessiah1071 He will torture anyone who does not behave how he wants for all of eternity. He also sees nothing wrong with Sex slaves as long as you pay the Father 50 sliver coins which in today's currency is 20 dollars. Read Deuteronomy 2:28 if you don't believe me( yet a loving relationship between people of the same gender is wrong in his mind) He also claims to care about life and free will especially for little kids but drowned almost everyone in Noah's Ark including babies and little kids and sent them to hell for being born before Jesus Christ got sacrificed just because not as perfect as him and his 😇 but still won't kill satan. He is still against abortion even if the woman got raped could die etc but has no problem killing babies as a sacrifice to him or drowning them or burning them alive because their father stole from him etc. Yet still at the end of the day he claims to love us more than everybody but the Bible shows he treats his people the same way North Korea treats their citizens. Also if he is half as smart he thinks he is. He should be able to use his wisdom to convert everyone to Christianity without even proving his existence.
"christianity does not make any sense" ----
I often said the same about algebra in my seventh grade math class.
I so love your amazing common sense and ability to communicate honest simple concepts! I've never run across anyone like you before. Your talent is rare.
I totally agree with you. Your topic really resonates with me. Thank you for posting this video! It will be an eye opener for some that are unsure of their Christian faith. Your video’s will help people that have unanswered questions. We need more good people like you in the world.
It seems like most believers are ok with blaming the victim. Look at the way they vote.
Hate the religion not the Christian
Who’s the victim? Christ died for the sins of man so now man has no excuses why they didn’t repent God had offered eternal life to all people if they choose to reject it the. They are not victims because they choose willingly not to be saved now didn’t they. Sin is a crime against God and without Christ sin has to be paid for the wages of sin is death but God offers eternal life through his son so their are no victims here only those who make the choice to be saved or not.
@@adrianquinonez6667 But Christ created sin in the first place causing problems and then somewhat fixing them just for the sake of fame does not make them a hero. Also you said people have a choice to accept God or go to Hell. By this logic abusive parents give children the choice to do whatever they say or get sent to emergency room or to the morgue are victims and their children willing choose to deny them.
@@TotalAnalyst2 no we created sin not Christ he told us and warned us of what would happen sin was created because of us that is why Christ came down and lived a perfect sinless life and gave his life up for our sins so that we may be forgiven of our sins a child who doesn’t listen to their parent is disobedient. And they’re are consequences for it when I was a child if I didn’t listen my parents didn’t ignore it they disciplined me. God had every right to send all of us into the lake of fire for the wages of sin is death with each sin has it’s wages which is death but because of Christ sacrifice we can be forgiven of our crimes against God and be given the inheritance of the kingdom of heaven with God. anybody who end up in the lake of fire it’s because they choose to live a sinful life and that’s a crime against God and they did not seek repentance and salvation from sin so their price will be paid with eternal death.
@@adrianquinonez6667 your trying to convince me God sending people to hell is on them not him because he warned them what would happen. That's not free will by this logic anybody Christians who end up in Gulags in north Korea is on them since King Jonn un warned them what happen if they disobeyed them too. 2 Getting grounded or spanked is completely different than being tortured for all of eternity. Parents who really love their children will punish only when the kid has done something like stealing lying etc and they will forgive them in time also once there kids are adults a good parent will let them be free to live their own lives and make their own choices instead of control ing them forever. Not throw them in a dark basement starve whip and torture them for the rest of their lives also God did create sin Isaiah 45:7 from King james I form the light and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Don't try to justify what God has done with he works in ways beyond our understanding and we should not question him. If he was half as wise as he claims he is then would be able to help humanity understand all of his decisions in a way their minds can understand. When someone tells you not to ask questions it's because they don't have answers. Don't tell me God created us he can do with us as he please because by this logic Parents should be allowed to beat and rape their children since they brought them into this world and put a roof over the heads and if their kids don't want them they are ungrateful and deserve any punishment the Parent does them. Also if you're God is fair smart and loving why does he get Mary a married 13 year old pregnant with himself without asking for consent so he can then kill himself to save the world from himself.
I love the way you think. Listening to your VERY thoughtful and valid points is eye opening and thought provoking, keep it up!
What doesn't make sense is that we're told that we are sinners from the second we're concieved.....So I being punished for being born altough I didn't even choose to be born! Weird.
My deconversion was couple years ago. I was part of a pentecostal church in Finland for 25 years. I love your content. You seem nice, intellegent and interesting person. Keep up the good work.
0:22 I heard that as well. I am happy I am an agnostic now. I can live my live and guide myself.
So happy for you! 😊
@@jezebelvibes thank you!!
"Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever desires to SAVE HIS LIFE SHALL LOSE IT, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospels SHALL SAVE IT." 'For what will it profit a man if HE GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD, and LOSES HIS OWN SOUL? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? (Mark 8:34-37)
@Sully I appreciate the motivation. I am sure Human Yeshua would have loved me. Historical one.
Thank you for being brave & sharing your story. I’m going through the same thing.
Love your channel, I just discovered your videos!! It’s interesting how the moment you want to be educated on your religion, thats the same moment that it all starts falling apart. Almost immediately.
I literally have friends and family who think I’m in the clutches of Satan and one friend even accused me of being a satanist just because I was asking questions, and just wanting concrete answers.
It’s also interesting how fast Christians turn on one another as soon as somebody wants real, educated, true answers and evidence.
I think “do not lean on your own understanding” was planted to make sure Christians never asked questions. Because the moment we are allowed to critically think on these topics, things don’t add up!
"Do not lean on your own understanding" is such an effective tool for discouraging critical thought :(
@@jezebelvibes True. And yet the person who wrote that as a rule, leaned on their understanding while telling others not to do so. That's messed up.
@@WayWalker3 Think genius! Find out what the word means -- meant!
Your videos are so thoughtful, clear, and potentially effective. Keep them coming.
i co-parent a 6 year old, and his mom is a fundamentalist christian. i’m surrounded by these types and your videos make me feel less alone. thanks
Its written in John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son”. God wants to save you not condemn you but are u willingly to accept that.
My daughter’s mom is into this as well. It’s a tough road. I’m sorry you have to struggle with it, and I hope our kids will be ok. It’s difficult to provide and counterweight without turning their minds into a battlefield.
@@trooperslayer5910 no
@@jaymurphy1306 thanks and yes i agree, i can’t even talk to them about it because it’s such a touchy subject. i wish you well too my friend
@@trooperslayer5910 And Leviticus 20:9 says, "If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.” So, even if your parents are *exually abusing you, and you curse them, you must be killed, and it's your fault? Such mercy. You would definitely need to be mad to believe that evil and unjustifiable notion.
99% of people are deceived by other people while 1% are actually deceived by ‘satan’. I’m SO glad and proud of you for making these videos. I’m on board with you 100% in your beliefs. You sound QUITE rational and I’m quite sure you’re NOT going to ‘hell’.
You sound like you control the entrance to Hell. How do you know who will be going to hell?
@@henrim9348 - I guess what I replied to her went way over your head. Read it again. It was a metaphor.
Henri - how do YOU know, my friend? How do we know hell exists at all?
Actually revelation 12 verse 9 says satan the devil deceives the whole world
Angie, how is it rational we got all this on its own? 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
Omg. I am so glad I found your posts. I have been fighting Christianity my whole life. Thank you for this message.
How do you fight reality? 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
As a non-believer, I too used to worry about being decieved until I asked myself a simple question. Out of all the people I have met and interacted with, in my life, which ones were the worst? My life experience says... religious people. Full of judgement, condemnation, tribalism, fear and hatred, and a sense of superiority. I have personally watched so called "saved" people destroy the lives of others because they were different. How can anyone possibly want to follow them? Join them? Be them?
Yes the superiority complex is what throws me off. They are also always in fear & full of hatred.
@@Fourwindsofsuccess I heard an expression the other day, "The most powerful hatred in the world is a Christian's love." They are so quick to claim they have God's love inside them, but show only hate to anyone different from themselves.
These are not real religious people, I promise! We Christians are taught to serve everyone and to be kind, just like Jesus did. Really, I respect everyone! But, just as Jesus did, we have to remind other people that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to The Lord but through Him. I do not accept sinful behaviour, but, like I said, it's only the behaviour! Not the person themselves! It's so sad that so many people don't understand the Bible.. It's a book full of symbols and metaphorics, you cannot just read it like a normal book.
I'm really sorry for your bad experiences with Christianity... I'll pray for you and everyone else that they will find the truth 🙏 God bless you
@@loveandpeace1923 Save your prayers for someone else. While I appreciate the sentiment, I fear you are wasting your time. I have grown into more of an Atheist. The Bible is filled with contradicts, hypocrisy, lies and impossibilities. There is not a single sliver of REAL evidence that proves anything in the Bible actually occurred. And, before you ask, yes, I have actually read the Bible. You said that you wish to remind people that the only way they can come to the Lord is through Jesus? Pretend for just a moment that I believed in God and Jesus. Why would I want to come to him? Based on the Bible, God isn't very kind to people whom he supposedly loves. Abraham and Issac, Moses, Lot, David, Job. Seems to me that people who've "come to the Lord" end up being tortured, punished, humiliated, ruined, destroyed or murdered. You have to admit that Old Testament God is pretty messed up. And... before you say..."Well, that was Old Testament God. After Jesus everything changed." God's past behavior is still questionable. It's still a window into his personality. Love, perfection, kindness, divine father figure? I don't see that. I see jealousy, wrath, cruelty, sloth, and apathy. Would you welcome a former serial killer into your home? Hell no! Lol
@starbrand3726, You are already claimed by lucifer so don't make a fuss and live your earthly life without knowing the truth. One day you will face the truth with your own eyes.
It's hard to break the thought processes your indoctrinated with. You start out looking through a certain lens. You have to step back and take another look.
We already looked, we mocked Christianity,we criticized every little thing about it. And yet,here we are today ,we are the exact thing we used to mock.
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Now we understand why we were mocking it and criticizing it.
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Its sad to see people living such a beautiful thing and become Atheists.
@@baloyishane3223I use to have questions similar to Kristi, and never was fully able to find the answers, because the questions will never end. Even if you find all the answers to your questions, more can come up, and it can be endless. So ultimately, a person has to step out in faith, and start living the Christian life.
@@kevinmalone3210 the problem is not the question but the heart of a person. When you want to leave the Faith, nothing can stop you. The answers don't matter. What matters is what will help you get out so you can have a justification for it
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I have questions also, some get answered and some don't,am patient cause i know that i'll get answers. My heart is with Christ, the questions are never the problem.
Yes, only with the ability to step out of our framework of beliefs can we be objective. With objectivity, without bias, we are more likely to see things clearly, even if clarity doesn't include answers.
@@baloyishane3223I have a spiritual based practice and there’s questions about the universe too but I feel like the fundamental questions of Christianity are what makes it confusing. We can’t even understand his love.
This is the exact problem of why i could not leave, frankly i stopped beliving long time ago but family members got upset if i didnt go. i told my self it would be dishonest to attend church and pretend like everything is ok. you helped me so much. I have cut off all ties with the religion doing my best to recover. No one really knows what happens in the afterlife heck i dont even know much of this world. Im gonna focus on my life instead of worrying about what happens when i die.
Satan knows the Bible just like Jesus , cause God creates Satan and Satan did not want to obey god rules in heaven so hid threw him away, Satan was a fallen angel . So if hid isn’t real ? His is Satan real ?
Revelation 12/9
And da great dragon was thrown down and the ancient serpent who is called the devil and Satan the decider of the whole world , he was thrown down to da earth
Do you agree there is a comon near death experince that many people report ? Most of them say that their life passes infront of them in an instant. Everthing important that ever happened right in front of their eyes. Then they're somehow jolted back into their body somehow. Doesn't that seem to be like a kind of review of all youve everdone for good or bad? Kinda like a personal judgement day...
Good for you. You are on the right path, now that you have freed yourself from mindless and rote beliefs.
@@garyshort9007 If I recall correctly, most people coming near death and surviving don't have a "near-death experience". And the ones who do will have an experience that usually corresponds to their religious beliefs no matter if they are Christian or Hindu or something else.
@js34lee. You really shouldn't give up so easily. Scripture happens to state that at some point people will long for death. That really cannot be a pleasant predicament. Perhaps you should start again. Investigate scripture for yourself, rather than hearing about it from people who haven't done proper research.
Always fantastic insights. I wish I had these videos 10 years ago when I began my deconstruction! Very inspiring!
I love your channel. Great content. I'll be showing my children all these videos. Thanks.
If god requires us to worship him in order to not go to hell, then he’s an enemy as well.
The hell doctrine is one of the false doctrines of mainstream christianity
Humanity's default destination is hell. God gave us a way out through Jesus Christ. No one on this thread has EVER encountered God and it's clear because it seems as if everyone is basing their de-conversion/non-belief on logic, reasoning and feelings. but hey...
@@jfate2311 buddy its a fairy tale, religon is based on the needs of a military commander in his time as a last ditch effort to control the common person, noone is going to save you, you have to save yourself, everything you do or dont do is your fault, the devil has nothing to do with it god has nothing to do with "Miracles" you do that, humans have the power to do everything, I dont need an external force to save me from my own actions, if i need to bow down to a GOD in order for him not to send me to burn forever then he does not have my support, I AM GOD, I AM SOURCE I WILL MY OWN FATE.
@@jfate2311 Why is hell our default destination? Because we have a "sinful nature" from birth? Who cursed all of humanity to have that nature after Adam and Eve? God. And even then, God knew exactly how everything would play out, he didn't tell Adam and Eve about Satan, the potential for temptation, or why exactly they would "die" if they ate from the tree of knowledge. In fact, it's called the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, why wouldn't they want to eat and truly learn what to do and might not do against themselves? Like an abusive parent, what if God had a ulterior motive and that's why he wanted to keep them ignorant?
@@kntranced719 have you searched for these answers on youtube? there are plenty of talks about it that can go in depth in a way that i cannot on here. likely a comment with limited characters would leave you with a line of questions, i'm sure, that a search online would answer. i would assume you really want the answers and aren't asking rhetorically with no intention of obtaining the truth. it was a tree that had evil intertwined with good. like a child sex offender who likes and loves children so much so that they have sexual exchanges with children. being kind, and generous to a child is good right? having sexual relations FEELS good right? but it's mixed with evil, in molesting a human being who is not of age. but to that individual, it's all 'good'. free will is the only parameter in which TRUE love can exist. if you don't have a choice to choose love, it's not really love is it? so God gave them free will to obey Him in love and like humans have a tendency to do, we messed it up lol. i'll share a couple of links that can answer your former question tho.
I honestly love all your videos. I've been following you on tiktok for a year now, and basically everything you say summarize what took me 7 years of christian deconstruction.
I've always been a very logical person, but when it came to religion, I was blinded by a cognitive dissonance created because of what I thought it was logical and what I was taught to believe since I was a little kid raised in a catholic and later on, a Seventh Day Adventist family.
At the age of 12 (when I start to realize I was gay) I started to have a lot of internal conflicts including desires of k***ing myself, just because I felt that god would never accepted me. Tried to change many times, neglecting my sexuality, fasting (as the bible says), Christian camp, reading more the bible, praying on my knees for hours, crying myself to sleep, just because I wanted for him to change me.
After 7 years of that, I realize that "free will" has never been a thing to begin with. How is it free will, when god in the bible has intervened physically in a person's life (like Adam and Eve that you just mentioned, or Job, or Jonah, Abraham, David, Salomon, Samson, Esther, etc). In every story of the Bible we can see god intervening in peoples fate, whether they want it or not. Most of them didn't have any option. And by being able to realize that, I started to question everything I believed and discovered that if you change the main character of the bible (god) for a normal human being, you get a literal Hitler. A lying, powerful, narcicist, mass murderer and controlling entity that believes that what is doing is for the greater good... a being that does not follow his own moral standards, yet he enforce them to us... If he was real, he's not a god of love. And that's what the whole faith is based on. Without that, I just stopped believing. That was basically my beginning of deconstruction, but there's a lot more that I would love to talk about, but is a really long story, just like most people that has gone through this.
That is why, when TikTok recommend you un my FYP, I connected with everything you say in your videos. Because I've lived it. I've went through that as well. And the more I think about everything I learned those years, the less sense it makes to believe in it.
I appreciate everything you do in the internet, because there's a lot of people believing with blind eyes a faith that is really dangerous. Specially when "religion, does not apply to happiness of each individual".
Hope you get really far with all of what you're doing, and to be happy by living your most authentic self❤️
No, it's not true that God always intervenes. If he intervenes sometimes, yes, that could be a good thing. But he honors freewill. For example, in Matthew 23, Jesus condemned Jerusalem because they rejected their Messiah. It was not God's choice, but their choice, to reject him. Similarly it's not God's choice (or will or desire) that you reject Jesus. His will is that you turn to him.
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3:9, KJV)
@@servantofmessiah1071 the fact this is all you took from this comment and disregarded the part where a 12 year old child tortured themself and wanted to d1e because they feared that the so called loving god wouldnt accept them speaks volumes on your morality. and didnt you get your morality system from god? hmm.
@@gyeonnai You mention disregarding. Well, the entire video, and all who are sympathetic towards it, is about disregarding the God of the Bible and giving him the cold shoulder, putting judgments upon him that do not make any sense, and which are not in accordance with the true teachings of the Bible, but rather what someone has "spun" in their minds. To ignore God is fatal. One must not shun the living God. That has eternal consequences.
God is a lover of souls. Jesus died for the ungoldy (me and you ...). We ought not to shun that!
@@servantofmessiah1071 but he does intervenes, over and over. Take the whole book of Jonah for example. He didn't wanted to go to Niniveh in the first place. Got into a boat and sail to the opposite direction. If "god" truly respected "free will" he would had called another profet, instead, he sent a storm and was willing to destroy the boat with everybody inside. And even tho was Jonah decision to jump, at what point was that free will? He was in a moral dilemma where he could stay in the boat and perish with the rest of the people or jump. He jumped because he knew what his "god" was capable of. He believed in a "god" that has killed for things was less important than that. So, even tho he jumped by "choice", it wasn't that much of a choice. Also, side note... when they sort the lots and the lot fell on Jonah... was that even luck or "god" manipulating Jonah's fate (because thats way too much coincidece)? And then after Jonah jumped from the boat, he got swallowed by a fish and got spit out where he didn't wanted to be, in Niniveh. And that's just and example of many in the bible where god doesn't not care about free will. Should I talk about Virgin Mary and how "god" put a kid inside her without even asking?
@@servantofmessiah1071 And I can agree with you about something. "God" is a lover of souls... I mean, that would explain all the genocides he did like the deaths of the first borns in Egypt, or Sodoma and Gomorrah (which btw, the bible never mention that they were destroyed because of homosexuality, idk where many christians got that from) the family of Job... literally the entire humanity annihilated by the Flood of Noah... he loves souls so much, he decided to kill them all... right... so much of a soul lover.
Love this so much. Thanks for sharing.
This is the current stage I’m in now😭. My heart is so heavy. Thank youuu!!!
Do not listen to this woman. She herself does not understand what she's saying. The Christianity she rejects is false. She blames Christians for this, not knowing almost everyone on Earth has been duped. To put this in a way you might understand. You're part of the reason that Satan exists. He did not want this whole thing, to belong, to you. His goal was to replace you -- and his final gambit, upon being exiled here, was to masquerade himself as a counterfeit saviour. It's from this false religion those looking for truth flee. Don't make the mistake of jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. Christ does exist. That is the real one, and he looks a bit like you.
Genius, Insightful, Awesome, Freeing, Full of Truth - Thank you & Have a great week!
That opening about people hurling rhetoric at you is SO TRUE... My goodness.. "you just hate God" "Where do you get YOUR truth?!" "You are so hateful" etc.... that's my mom in a nutshell lol. Great video
Your explanations are incredibly clear. I wonder if I would resist them if I weren’t already deconstructed. I almost want to share these with family and friends but … nah. Better not. Lol 😂. Please continue this content. I really appreciate this 🥰
Loving your videos! This one was especially insightful. I never looked at it that way before and it's so true!
im so glad whoever you are, went ahead with this channel, its amazing, im learning how to interact with those who love me, but are distanced since i asked them why they dont read the bible yet every sunday show up in nice clothes
Perfect question. Really helps deconstruct.
This is so good! Thank you for helping many people break through the cognitive dissonance. ❤️
Denying that Satan exists is good????
Kristi I wish you all the best and thank you for all you do ❤
“Is being deceived a crime?” Woa. Such a great question. This helped me so much in my dating life. I have fallen for men who are deceiving me…time and again. I keep asking myself why I am not seeing it…but then remember what Dr Ramani the foremost expert on Narcissism says. That even as an expert, sometimes it takes a few months of seeing thru what people want her to believe about themselves. Hearing your question helped me see Being deceived says more about the deceiver than it deceiver than me! Booya
Kristi, I just love your videos. You have such a logical, rational mind. You present complicated (and not-so-complicated) concepts in a simple, easy to understand way. Today I subscribed and belled your channel.
Unfortunately, she is also leading many other people astray, because God is real and we will each have to stand before him at the judgment seat of Christ one day. The Bible says that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. (Please read Philippians 2.)
@@servantofmessiah1071 There is plenty of evidence that God didn't write the Bible. It is evident only humans did, with all the numerous historical and scientific errors, and contradictions, chapters edited out, and the human morals of that time and place (slavery, human and animal sacrifice, women bought and sold as property with no autonomy, incest, and men having sex with whomever they wanted to marry, whenever they wanted (except not lying with men), was all perfectly morally fine).
Also, if the Bible was God's divine message, the Bible would have one single interpretation that all his created people believed. As it is, not one person interprets the Bible in exactly the same way.
So, what is your evidence that God was involved in humans writing of the Bible? One verifiable form of evidence would be sufficient for me to believe.
I have loved watching your videos and your deconstruction journey . Thanks for sharing them .
Thank you! This helps many people who're actually chained by religion that expect to find a way out.
That is a good point. Why would an all-powerful God be so narrow-minded by judging someone badly because that person was deceived? That don't make any sense to me either 🙄
I appreciate your no-nonsense way of explaining your thought process, step by logical step. I just subscribed and look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks for doing this. I don't feel so alone.
I left religion. I didn't leave my true self. I still help my neighbor, I'm still kind. I didn't change, I just quit buying into the churches, shaming and judgement. I prefer to accept people as they are, whatever that is. Such freedom.
It is all nonsensical💙💜💚
Thank you Kristi! ❤️🙂
im sorry you have to deal with these comments :( great video 💗
love the way you speak so eloquently. makes me want to hear what you have to say even more
Thanks so much. You are uplifting and comforting. Just listening to you work through these ideas, is so helpful. I grew up in Christian Science, which killed both my sister and brother. Perhaps it's the most extreme of Christian cruelty, but in a measure there is some quality of destructiveness in every aspect of Christianity. I'm 67 but still struggle daily with the violence of Christianity. Which makes me very grateful that you are willing to work out this religious hurt in a public manner where others can be helped. Thank you, Francis
I've been following your videos only lately but it is helping answer a lot of questions I began asking myself about my Christian faith and my upbringing as a Christian. Though I left believing in Christianity and all other religions for that matter, there were still some questions behind my mind which your videos are explaining very clearly. Thanks Kristi.
Your videos are amazing and give me hope that we will see the end of toxic Christianity in my lifetime.
Doubt it
If god is so powerful, why does he let Satan exist.
Without satan it all would come crumbling down, he is the key to all of this non-since.
Love your perspectives!
“…. little ignorant human puppets….”
Maybe not this precise wording, but this sentiment is exactly why I gave up on religion almost five decades ago. It was just so exhausting trying to keep deluding myself and ignoring truth, science and reason.
Glad you were able to find your true self.
Great video Kristi. I just need some advice for when family say stuff like “it makes me sad that I won’t see you in heaven” and all the rest. I know they use a myriad of logorrhea, but help with the Christian conservative family would be appreciated!
Hi, Kristi. You came up in my recommended videos, probably because I'm fascinated by religious belief and the dialogue surrounding it. I like understanding how theological systems work, and I could never quite connect the dots with Christianity. Even as a little kid growing up Catholic I had questions that no one could answer, or was willing to answer. I loved the rituals and the beauty of the Mass. I wanted it all to be true. But after years of unanswered prayers, I passed from bewilderment and hurt, to guilt, to anger with God, and finally to unraveling what little belief I had altogether.
There may or may not be something beyond this life, and the question continues to fascinate me. But it's quite obvious that the Abrahamic myths are just that -- myths. The omni-God, as I call him, cannot logically exist, and the theology surrounding him just doesn't hold water. There's a reason your comments section is filled with Pascal's Wagers and No True Scotsman fallacies: Free thought isn't encouraged, because if you press too hard, the entire edifice comes crumbling down.
I still admire the ethics of the Sermon on the Mount, but most Christians seem to ignore Jesus' words in favor of Paul's. Being Catholic, I also took comfort in Mary as a compassionate mother figure, but in the end she was a reminder of the degree to which the sacred feminine is neglected and ignored in Christianity.
The Christian myth has bound together Western civilization for centuries, but I'm not sure how much longer it can sustain itself. It has valuable lessons to impart, but those lessons go mostly ignored, leaving nothing of transformative value for this world. Everyone's so busy focusing on getting their free ticket to heaven that they forget to live in this world.
Awesome B-Rolls! Very professional and well done!
Awesome video! Love your logic and reasoning in this one! Believers are one of the worst people as they just blindly follow , try to force their religion down non believers throat , and contradict themselves in every way possible. Im glad theres hope in humanity to leave it behind sooner or later!
One point I always found interesting is that allegedly the only unforgivable sin is disbelief in the existence of "the Lord and savior." So every other sin is committed willfully and knowingly, and they can be forgiven. But the only one that can't be forgiven, is the only one where you're the victim.
if you don't believe how can you be forgiven in the first place? also i'm quite sure you've never experienced God for yourself, but hey...
@@jfate2311 I’m sure YOU totally have experienced God right? 😉
@@Wrestleroftheyear you're asking or you're telling? ☺ i have and i've also experienced demons. so i know that there is a reality we exist between that can't be quantified by 'science' carry on.
Wow! I’m so impressed by how you explain things that I’ve been having hard time sorting it out for the past two years.. kudos to you! I’m in the process of deconstruction myself. So, this really helps a TON! What is challenging to me is now- I’m looking for something to new hold onto as I’m mentally letting go of of my previous beliefs. That in-between feels even more vulnerable and almost without form or no foundation (not sure if you felt like this in your journey). If you did, do you have any advice or suggestions how to overcome it?
I went through the same thing and I think most people do when reviewing and deconstucting their long held beliefs. It is hard to let go of an ingrained belief system if you have nothing to replace it with, it can leave us feeling lost, scared, empty and confused. Some people over time can probably become strong enough to let go of a belief in God and be happy living like that. For me personally I still need to feel connected to something spiritual and I've had too many experiences of being helped out of very hard situations to believe that there is no God at all. As much as I don't believe in the wrathful God of the bible anymore I still believe that there is a loving God/creator of the Universe who originally put into every human heart good moral principles to live by to give us a solid moral foundation and these moral principles ended up in the bible and in the texts of many other religions. That is why we will always find some grain of truth in most religions. I've just let go of the toxic, fearful notion of fire and brimstone that is in the bible, as that was most likely written by humans to control and subdue but I've held onto the moral wisdom I learned from the book as this helps me navigate my life in the best way. In other words just because we've let go of of the bigoted, intolerant fearful parts of the bible doesn't mean we have to totally let go of some of the good principles written within it or in the belief in a loving creator. 💖
@@taniaseal7154 You are absolutely right! My heart and soul still believes in God/ Creator and it’s comforting. Even from my life story, before Christianity ( I was raised in India-Hindu family), I knew there was a higher power that’s helping us and is loving and wise. I keep reminding myself that, and working through separating the fear aspect from the man made religious dogma. It’s such a comforting feeling to know that I’m not alone going through this journey and that there’s hope and peace, outside of the walls of the church or a specific religion. Thank you for being vulnerable and open to discuss with boldness, the truth in you! I know it’s helping many souls! Blessings!
@@tanvigawde1612 Bless your heart 💖 It breaks my heart to know people suffer and worry for years over unhealthy religious beliefs, then when we allow ourselves to think rationally and try to deconstruct those ingrained beliefs we can start to feel a new sense of unsettlement, fear and confusion of where to turn next. Beliefs develope over time which usually start from childhood and attach to our emotions, becoming part of our personalty and identity, so being indoctrinated into a dogmatic religion or belief system from a young vulnerable age, it's no wonder we can feel unnerved and become just as vulnerable and unsettled when we start to pull away from that way of thinking. The truth is none of us know what the ultimate truth is but as Kristi wisely states in this video, a loving, omnipotent omniscient God would not punish His beloved children for being deceived, when it is He who set it all up that way in the first place. He allowed so many faiths and belief systems to exist in the world, which all claim to be the only true way so how is anyone to know which is the right one to follow? If there is a God He/She/whoever, gave us brains to think rationally about these things. I, like yourself take comfort in believing there's something spiritual watching over us, (for me that's Jesus, for you and others it could be another deity) but what matters is whoever created us also gave us hearts that we could love and care for our fellow humans, so if we just try our best to be decent people and live by the golden rule of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" that should be enough for a loving creator. Don't ever feel you're alone in trying to work all this out yourself as there are so many of us who are going through the same, so we can all help each other out 😍 Watching videos like this, educating ourselves and using our discernment will help to get rid of those old fearful beliefs bit by bit so we can start living a more productive, peaceful life. 🙏💖
Reality, the world of real and honest things, which has supported you all through your life, will continue to support you. The in-between phase you mentioned is like an addict coming off drugs. It takes time to normalize and wean yourself off the remaining fumes of delusion and fantasy that you were unwittingly addicted to. It is important to avoid undue emotional stresses that may cause you to fall back into old habits, or to blindly reach out to 'alternative' beliefs when you feel afraid, as these will most likely be just as illusory as those you left behind. Deconstruction takes years, decades even, but you can learn to externally watch your behaviours, and thereby discipline yourself by advancing your learning and by listening to similar accounts from those who have not only survived the abuse of belief systems, to go beyond them, and repair and redirect your own mind towards a more rational future existence. This is the path of truth, logic, reason which leads to a properly developed being, not in a hippy-dippy sense, but a true understanding of reality and all its great potential. Best of luck on your journey.
Hey beautiful I truly love and appreciate u and your videos. You articulate everything that i have come to reason during this very tough deconstruction in my 33 yers of being completely devoted jw. The pain and fight has been hard and lonely but i love your grace, love, common sense, and vulnerability. Its helped me so very much. So again thank u beautiful 😍 and keep em coming ❤
You make so much sense to me. Thanks for your videos.
I never have these conversations anymore. Maybe because of the people I am surrounded by or that I am middle-aged and people assume things about me. Great video and clear thinking.
You and Kristi don't think much. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block 1LofT, 2LofT?
@@telgato711 wow. First and second laws of thermodynamics.
@@2fast2block That's been debunked for years, decades even. Laws of thermodynamics don't prove god. Wow back at ya. also logical fallacy - jumping to conclusion without evidence.
@@telgato711 Nope, NOTHING you gave showed the evidence I gave is not correct. Your blah blah didn't work.
Hey Kristi, Beautifully said like all your videos, keep up the good work. Keep deconstructing.
Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video! I left the faith 5 years ago and I still question if I did the right thing. This video helps! ❤️
I admire your courage and honesty Kristi and the good work you are doing.
Being deceived is most certainly a crime and I've been deceived to
Love isn't supposed to hurt
Yes it is.
On an idealistic basis, it would be nice if it did not hurt. Yet giving people freewill (like God did) by necessity means that all people will make bad choices some of the time. And bad choices generally hurt.
Love hurt Jesus, that's for sure.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16, KJV)
Notice the pain? Jesus died and bled on the cross for your sin and for mine. He loves us.
So does love hurt? Yes, it led Jesus all the way to the cross.
@@servantofmessiah1071 When people ask me what does Love look like. I show them a crucifix. Thank you Jesus for your great sacrifice
@@michellemcdermott2026 sacrifice? he already had everything planned, he literally created sin and then sent jesus to die to pretend like he was saving us from his own creation. sounds like manipulation to me
@@gyeonnai He gave us free will, and we rejected him and worshipped ourselves.
He sent His Beloved Son and we rejected Him too. Yet He still loves us and dies fir us daily at The Holy Sacriice of the Mass.
Its a narrow gate into eternal bliss and it requires sacrifice. We need to stop worshipping ourselves.
You make excellent videos. They are extremely well-organized and simple to follow. You are one of my new favorites.
Kristi's insightful perspective hits different. This was brilliant.
Hi, Kristi. I'm currently going through the motions. I already know I don't believe. But there are people in my life that are Christian that I like being around. I'm afraid to tell them I no longer believe because I fear I will lose them.
I've been there. You don't owe anyone an explanation of your spirituality. But when you're ready to tell them, those that truly love you and want the best for you will support you no matter what. Sometimes it takes being open and honest with people to find out who's worth keeping around 🫶 best wishes. Be kind to yourself.
NO BIG LOSS.
I no longer go to any churches, but I didn't throw my brain away because of them. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@ProJMFPWT14 well you free her from the ruin she's in. Tell her how you are so smart that we got ALL of this all by itself naturally. 1LofT states that energy can't be created or destroyed, it can't happen naturally. One aspect of the 2LofT shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
@@2fast2block why do you single me out in the comment section?
Quality philosophical content, right here !
I needed to see your videos today, so thank you.
My Dad is a Christian and I’d class myself as Spiritual- he’s always saying everything is the work of Satan and how I need to turn to Jesus as I’m on the ‘New Age’ path and being deceived.
Everything my Dad says about the Bible brings me so much fear and I’ve felt such an internal battle for a good year, especially with what’s happening now.
All I can say is thank you Kristi.
Actually, the Bible doesn't even say it was Satan in the Garden. It says it was a talking serpent, "the wisest of all creatures". The idea that the snake was Satan was added only way later, by Augustin I believe. Read Elaine's Pagels' book "The Invention of Satan".
Think about: if lucifer - satan doesn't exist why the elite of the world are satanists??
Love how the wind chimes chimes every time you’re making a point about God and his character 💕
Lol, god is cheering me on 😏
@@jezebelvibes 🤪😂💕💕
Is the presence of the wind a confirmation that God has put his approval on someone's message? On the contrary. Messages (including preachers, etc) need to be checked out by carefully examining the Scriptures to see whether the person's message is in agreement with what God says in his word (the Bible). Paul himself was cross examined, as it were, by the Bereans. For after Paul had preached to them, we read:
“These (the Bereans) were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.” (Acts 17:11, KJV)
So basically that is how you do it. And by so doing it that way, you would indeed end up rejecting certain (erroneous) teachings put forth by certain "Bible teachers" and it would put you in a better position to actually know the true God of the Bible (he is good). 🙂
@@servantofmessiah1071 Isaiah 45:7
I assume by quoting Isaiah 45:7, you are saying the Bible teaches that God is the author of evil. But the Bible does not teach that. Here's a good commentary that clears that up. It is written by John MacArthur, and although I differ in some areas with him, I wholeheartedly agree with his statement on this passage:
If God is sovereign, is He responsible for evil?
No. Scripture says that when God finished His creation, He saw everything and declared it "very good" (Genesis 1:31). Many Scriptures affirm that God is not the author of evil: "God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13). "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5). "God is not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33)-and if that is true, He cannot in any way be the author of evil.
Occasionally someone will quote Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) and claim it proves God made evil as a part of His creation: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (emphasis added).
But the New American Standard Bible gives the sense of Isaiah 45:6-7 more clearly: "There is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, the One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these." In other words, God devises calamity as a judgment for the wicked. But in no sense is He the author of evil.
Evil originates not from God but from the fallen creature.
Source: www.gty.org/library/articles/A189/is-god-responsible-for-evil