"Bleed" by Meshuggah EXPLAINED (part 2)
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- Time Consuming Ep #7 "Bleed" by Swedish Metal band Meshuggah deals with groupings and rearranging musical chunks, for the most part, in various ways in order to create different musical patterns.
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I knew Meshuggah was all about hugs and kisses!
Such a lovely bunch.
For me they really are.
They have some “spiritual songs” lol
I know I'm almost a year behind here, but I just wanted to add something. The last section you discuss, with the A B and C patterns, the C patterns aren't placed randomly. Or at least, there's a way to describe exactly where they are and what they're doing.
In that portion of the song, every pattern (A, B, and C) all use the same 3 notes: F#, F, and D#. I learned this song on guitar, so for simplicity's sake I'm going to refer to these notes by their positions on the frets of a guitar: F# is 3 (3rd fret), F is 2 (2nd fret), and D# is 0(open/no fret). Within each pattern, the O section and the X section are only ever using 1 note at a time. So for example, if I say that OOOX is the notes 3203, that means the first O is 333-3-, the second O is 222-2-, the third O is 000-0-, and the X is 3---. (In this case the numbers are pick strokes and the hyphens are just the beats where nothing is picked; this is basically guitar tablature notation)
You can imagine each pattern as doing a different task. Every B pattern shifts around to a new "home" note each time it's played. Every A pattern except the first one goes back to the same "home" note instead of going to the next one. There are two little rules to this whole section. Every O section will ALWAYS be the note that follows the section immediately before it. Every X section ALWAYS follows an O section, and it is ALWAYS the SAME NOTE as that section. And in this part of the song, the notes are always going in descending order, with 0 going back up to 3 (so, 3 2 0 3 2 0 3 2 0 3 2 0 etc.). So, to put that all into context, the way the patterns work together is as follows (using the O/X structure from the video as a guide):
0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X
3 2 0 0, 3 2 0 3 3 , 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 0 0, 3 2 0 0 , 3 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 0 0, 3 2 0 0
I'm sure you can see a pattern emerging. Basically, the B pattern moves the song to the next "home" note (the one that gets played twice in a row), and the A pattern just loops back around to the same "home" note again. A simpler way to look at it is that every A pattern is just the last four sections of the B pattern before it. And if you look at the last note from every section, you see the descending order: 3, 3, 2, 2, 0, 0, 3, 3, 2, 2, 0, 0.
SO! In this section, after a few repeats of the basic AB pattern, there's a crash cymbal on the first beat of one of the measures. When I'm playing this section on guitar, that crash signals something to me. The VERY NEXT time we get to 2 as the "home" note, when we're about to use the B pattern to shift to 0 as the "home" note, INSTEAD we play the C pattern. It follows all the same rules (except that the A pattern after it is the same as the A pattern before it), and looks like:
0 0 0 0 0 0 X
0 3 2 0 3 2 2
It is played exactly the same way both times, and it's played in exactly the same place within the note structure both times. From the crash cymbal:
B______A______B________A_______B_______A_________C_________A_______B________A_______B_______A_______B________A_________C________A________B___
0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 X, 0 0 0 0 X, [fill]
0 0, 3 2 0 0 , 3 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 0 3 2 2 , 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 0 0 , 3 2 0 0, 3 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 3, 2 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 2 , 0 3 2 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 2, 0 3 2 0 0, 3 2 0
Interestingly, the C pattern serves the exact same purpose as the A pattern. You'll notice the descending order of the last notes of each section has changed slightly, with the new C pattern almost pausing it. The new order in this part is: 3, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 0, 0, 3, 3, 2, 2, 2, 2, 0, 0. The C pattern extends the amount of time 2 is the "home" note compared to the previous measures. And the way it gets back to 2 is kind of this long, meandering group of sections that feels like it lacks resolution, like it's unsure or wandering aimlessly. It sets up the end of this portion of the song beautifully, with the last note being 0, which then resolves fully into the next section (which is an earlier variation of the opening riff, and then the opening riff itself, both of which use 0 as the "home" note all the way through to the end).
Anyway, PHEW. Just had to get this out there, as I've done a lot of thinking about Meshuggah over the years, and if anyone else watched your video through to the end I figured it might be interesting to get a little of the melodic context to go along with the rhythmic context you provided so succinctly. Thanks for the video!
Super impressive break down! You should really be doing a collaboration or your own vid.
This is called an isorhythm. Simply a pattern as well of pitches. The prechorus of Stengah, this riff, the first 2 and a half minutes of Pineal gland optics, a lot of the riffs in dancers, The descending riff in I am colossus right before the guitar solo, several of the riffs in do not look down, the intro and outro of swarm, and the outro of demiurge are all examples of this.
But I don't know how a drum player would know when to change.
I just remember the ascendancy cue and be done with it, which is not very fair for a drummer
@@kjl3080 but hey the drummer’s able to do it which is really impressive
Massive respect for the work you've put into this!
The way he politely shuts down the elitists at the start of the vid was amazing
This is incredible. Anybody who not only wants to understand “Bleed” but also time signatures in general should watch this. It is so much better than any “drummer reaction” video I have ever seen.
Thanks a lot man. I put a lot of effort into these, and it's always nice to hear it's appreciated!
It's the best analysis yeah, and actually the only one out of these "Bleed tutorials" that actually is of any use, if you want to learn the song, and not just the first two riffs
This would not be of much help to someone who wants to understand time signatures, it’s way to complicated for someone who doesn’t already understand time signatures. Still the best song breakdown I’ve ever seen, but I think something a lot simpler would be better to teach time signatures.
Please somebody make a "Bleed but it's triplets" cover
oh no hahahaa
That's *beyond godlike impossible* bruh
You have to be masochist if you try to pull that off lol
Hahaha sickk
this is a meme job for Adam "the lick" Neely?
"AAABAABAABAABAA!" - my brain trying to follow along.
For real though - the level of detail revealed in this analysis is astonishing. Thanks for all your hard work!
Happy you like it!
That's my blood group
It's also the same sound the singer is making. Coincidence or secret hints revealed? You decide
Brother, your videos are absolutely insane 😂 that amount of work you put in is priceless! You deserve more views! I am your fan!
I appreciate that!
And yeah, especially this one was INTENSE to create!
Happy you like it.
I couldn't agree more with this comment. Great work
@@YogevGabay how much time it took? 😆
@@gdyan4910 This bleed one was at lest 25 hours I think. All in all..
Me too. There is a clown that called him self "drum critic" and he doesn't know crap about music. He is a YOU TUBE CELEBRITY. YEAH!!! LIKE THAT.
Ladies and Djents hahaha
That got me pretty good too, fuck i need some djent friends in my life....
ITS NOT A TRIPLET!
It's really not.
This was so great, really impressed how detailed you were breaking this down. The other day i also was listening to a song a was like "thats a sick triplet pattern... wait thats not a triplet thats a herta." I am now a better human being for understanding what a triple is, all thanks to you!
HAHAHA epic!!! My job here is done.
I had no clue about the herta until these videos. It used to "herta" my brain trying to figure out what was happening.
If the two smallest subdivisions are combined it’s what’s called a pugada
yogev: *pretending he bored everyone away*
me: *watching this video for the 723rd time*
Meshuggah explained... they did this and that and these are the patterns and then... "I have no idea". Perfect :D
As someone who studied music theory and ethnomusicology I appreciate what Meshuggah does so much. There are so many tie-ins with classical music of the modern era (Bartók, Stravinsky, et al using polyrhythmic chains, agogic accents, and phrasing over the barline), Indian music ("talas" / extended beat cycles), Balkan dances (breaking rhythmic chains into long/short steps), and the list goes on. All put into a blender and run through the pure Scandinavian death metal filter. Truly wild.
How can I be so fascinated and so lost at the same time
Dude just power-leveled my musicianship.
\m/
Me too and i only play air drums🤓
I don't understand Bleed anymore than I did before watching both parts, but this is absolutely incredible to see broken down so well.
I've reached metal music theory TH-cam and I love it
This was an incredible analysis, so simple a musically illiterate person like me could understand. Subscribed.
Yeah man! Happy you like it !
I have tried to learn this song a couple times,this really helped to solidify the structure. your videos are insanely good, thank you.
Thanks Alejandro! happy you like it.
That C pattern riff actually DOES make sense! It's because they aren't just working with rhythms, but tones too. As the A/B sections repeat, they switch what tone they end the riff on. They add those two sections in order to change what tone the riff ends on, so they can end the last phrase on the lowest of the 3 tones.
@Yogev Gabay you need to see this !!!
I suspected it had to do with that, but wondered about the placement of those Cs. I mean, They could have just jammed them at the and, but they didn't so I'm wondering!
@@YogevGabay If you listen to the tones it's because the C always occurs on the same tone :) It happens when the previous A and B has ended on the middle tone, and the next one SHOULD be lowest but it adds the extra length to make it end on the middle tone again. Personally I think it was Fredrik Thordendal just going "I like that tone, I want more of it" 😂
This is an isorhythm. A pitch pattern that cycles. And in Meshuggah's case it creates a secondary cycle.
@@drumkidstu Aye, that's the word! Thank you!
Holy shit, I stopped paying attention for a second and we went from Xs and Os to batmobiles, gonna need to rewind this one a bit lmao.
Just found your channel maybe half an hour ago and Im loving it, subscribed with no hesitation lol
HAHAHAHHA I forgot I did the batman animation hahahah wow
Dude, these two videos are CRIMINALLY underrated!
I think Bleed is honestly one of the greatest metal compositions because of its cunning use of rhythm. I knew it was 4/4 and used the herta rudiment, but I didn't realise just to what extent it went into with the intricacies of the subdivisions. The thing that gets me is they not only had to write it and remember it, but they had to practise the hell out of it to pull it off (especially Tomas Haake).
There's two geniuses here: the ones who wrote the damn thing and the one figured the damn thing out. I shall appreciate it much more now that you've demonstrated it in real time. One day - yikes - I may even have a go at playing it.
Subscribed man. Keep up the great work, because you're like the Rick Beato of rhythm!
Thanks a lot Jack!
I'm happy you find it useful!
do you know how many people have come across this song and said “Im not even gonna try and comprehend this shit” and yet here you are doing the impossible
MORE MESHUGGAH PLEASE!!!
finally after 8 months of practice (without a solo ) I can play bleed on a 6 string acoustic
best tutorial to play bleed ever
Meshuggah is one of the most fascinating bands, for me. I've always liked how breaking down one of their songs feels a bit like decoding a crypted message. Once you have it it's so satisfying to play along ! And the way they focus on the pure rythm with very little melodic variation makes it quite hypnotic and pleasant to listen to.
Thank you for making those videos, it's always very clear and entertaining at the same time.
"ladies and djents" ... it took me 3 times watching this video before I finally figured out what pun you were talking about! xD
Man. It's so awesome that you took the time to make this two-parter! I watched it entirely. This song has perplexed the shit out of me since I first heard it -- specifically, the two parts where they play circle 6 times. It always felt so cool to listen to, but I could never really seem to pin down exactly when it would happen. Listening to the song as you've laid it out, it makes total sense, but the end result of listening to the song without sitting down to figure out exactly how it's composed, really feels magical. Anyway, thanks again for investing all the time and effort that you did to make these videos. It's shame this is almost too niche of a topic and band, musically, to get all the views you deserve for this effort. Thanks again; I will definitely be revisiting these in attempt to tackle this song on guitar all these years later. =)
Oh man thanks!
And yeah, Meshuggahs songs are always a treat to listen to and I love sitting down and discovering what's actually going on. I'm happy you enjoyed this! This song blew my mind and still does, and Meshuggah will be a band I'll DEFINITELY cover here more than once.
Happy you like it!
If you learn the guitar pattern for that part, itll be easier to guess where the 6 circles happen since thats where the riff essentially restarts, ill write a more detailed commend in the general thread, check it out if you want.
The production level and informational value you are able to cram in your videos is simply amazing! I have a very basic undertanding of rhythms, notation and time signatures as I used to study music and playing drums as a kid.
The way you're breaking this down is incredible, I mean this is a highly complex arrangelent, yet I can very well understand how how to follow. There's no way I would have ever, ever in a million years understood and break this down without your video.
Big thanks and thumbs up from Finland 👍👍👍
OHH thanks man !!!
Looks like a chance to learn the damn thing start to finish.
12:24 of course we're here. That's EXACTLY why we're here. Great breakdown!
the one person disliking this video probably went to watch a kenny g video thinking "i like this jazz better".
hahahahahahahahaha
I'd love to see Tomas' reaction to this
Me too
"And the secret is finally revealed - we were just stoned playing tic-tac-toe and this is what we ended up with."
The guitar tones and kick drum tone in this song are just absurd
I may be 4 years late, but this is truly informative and educational and helped me better understand what was going on in this astonishing piece. Many thanks! (PS. I thought it was a triplet!). No wonder it took Tomas 6 months to learn this! How complex it all is!
great stuff, YES we're still here geeking out with you lol check out these comments people be diving in
Opening statement, Preach!
Hi Yogev… at least I’m here… I’m from Mexico City and I appreciate your efffort,, keep doing it, it’s worth it. You’ve ease my approach to Messhugah’s music and I’m grateful. Keep it going! You’re not alone! 🤟🎸😎
Thank you so much! I'm super happy you like it
I think my brain just melted processing this information
Five minute song, takes at least 20 minutes to explain its surface level concepts, and worth it. When it first came out, I just thought it was a banger of a tune. The more thought I've devoted to it, the more I'm prepared to call it a masterpiece.
This is the channel ive been begging the lord for
The hanger for the ching rings though!! GENIUS
yeeeeessss thank u so much i never really understood why everybody loves tomas til now... insane polyrhythms with max accessibility... i always thought i was a groove man but now i realize chops mean something to me
The song is about a aneurysm or bleeding in the brain. I think the growing you talked about is to symbolize the blood spreading until the person dies. Just a thought! Awesome video sir! Please keep it up!
I subscribed to this channel purely because of this video and part 1 + you seem like an awesome guy and teacher.
Listening to Bleed a whole different level, but playing it is another experience. I have zero clues in theories and polyrhythms. Bleed, while difficult to play, has suspiciously easy patterns that you just got the hang of it once you see the patterns. I was pretty mindblown.
I love Meshuggah.
Oh man, we all love Meshuggah!
Wow! That opening statement about the vocals is so crucial! I almost missed out on a life changing artist because of it, but I learned to both like and respect him big time.
Thanks for the professional breakdown. You are very good explaining to where we all can understand. The song deserves this type attention.
You have just earned a new subscriber. Epic breakdown of an epic song
Man, the sheer amount of effort you put in to the visuals, editing chunks of the song and so on for this video blows my mind.
So does the breakdown. That blows my mind too >.< Thank you man.
Thanksssssss
Wow man - I'm mind-blown - That's the best way anyone has ever explained anything in history.
holy shit, this is so cool and finally i understand this crazy song
Really nice breakdown!! Thank you :)
That was a great breakdown
I knew it. Meshuggah take our money for something this easy.
You, sir, have earned yourself a new subscriber this day
This is an amazing video dude, thanks so much
This is so useful! Thanks. (also great production value with the cute animations)
your channel is so incredibly underrated, keep on going man
I appreciate that!
Honestly I'm super impressed. Not in a million years did I think that I'd be able to make a lick of sense of what's going on in bleed. I'm shocked that it's all in 4/4, hadn't picked up on that. Thank you, great work and big ups!
Thank you for this!❤️
You are not alone
That was the most incredible explanation of a complex concept i have ever seen. The graphics, the editing, syncing the song with it all. Genuis. I'm not a drummer, but i kind of understood it. Blew my mind!
im so grateful u sacrified ur viewer retention for this😭
Hahahahahha best
I learned a decent amount from this. Not just about Meshuggah but about music theory in general. I have barely looked at music theory since high school, I actually might get back into it.
This makes me love the song even more.
"hope you are still here, I feel so alone" my dude, this work will be being referenced long after we are dead and gone:) you are with us forever now
Hahahaha epic
Your works are absolutely mind blowing and never seen analysis like this before. Big fan of yours👍👍
Thank you very much!
Yogev Is great.this series are One of the best on TH-cam.
Wow, thanks!
The amount of music theory you have to know to be able to simplify this so easily is insane, great work man
Very clear now because of your visual explanation , thank you so much !
why is this not number one on trending make this man famous youtube
HEEELLLPPPPPPPPP man, people don't like to think
fantastic breakdown! so much to learn from meshuggah
Thoroughly enjoyed this! First metal song I took a very close look into, thanks to you.
I know practically nothing of music theory - I love your videos. These make me understand that I really do like complicated music.
מדהים! תודה.
ותפסיק לשאול האם מישהו עדיין רואה אותך.😜 בטוח כולם נהנים. 🙂
Excellent excellent excellent work!!!
The reason for the 2 seemingly random 6 "O"-s is because the riff resets itself into the same position after the first 3 of those 6 "O"-s. The riff plays 3 notes over that 3/4 "O" switching pattern, so each time you end up on a different note pitch. It plays F# - F - Eb. The F is played on the open 8th string while the other 2 notes are in a higher octave, but for the ease of explanation lets put them in the same octave, played on the 6th string, the pitches all fall within a minor third interval: 3-2-0. So we got this pattern:
333-3--222-2--000-0------333-3--222-2--000-0--333-3----- and so on, repeating over the beat with a note being shifted each time since its only 3 pitches but over either 3 or 4 "O"-s in the pattern as explained above. When the time comes for that random 6 group of "O"-s, it plays like this (for the sake of brevity i concatenated same pitches into a single digit):
0-3-2-0-3-2--
If you replace those "2"-s with "0"-s on the 8th string each time, you get the correct pitch of the song (in fact many tabs have it incorrectly tabbed as 0-3-2, but you can find the separate guitar track of Bleed on youtube and clearly hear its an open 8th string instead of 2 on the 6th).
Those 6 digits are the 6 "O"-s of this video and the longer dashes in the end are the "X". It really makes sense when you learn the riff and comes very naturally after a while. In fact its surprising how a lot of the stuff in this song falls into place after you spend enough time honing it in. In the end, the hardest parts to nail down remain the bends in the riff, especially towards the ending because its hard to understand where exactly the bend starts and its different in length each time i believe.
Oh man this makes sense! I was thinking in t hat direction, but couldn't put my finger on it.
Thanks!
This is so good! Always loved their albums and tried counting in all sorts of ways. Now I really understand,. My head banging live has always been in 4 | 4. You just have to follow the singer…
I was willing to sub after part one. I found myself saying yes when you asked if someone was still here. Thank you for breaking this down...
This is called erudition and dedication.
Man. I think I cannot thank you enough for the knowledge that these videos give to everyone. Thank you man!
you are a legend man! not gonna say more cause you know it ;D
Awesome work on these videos, subbed
Top notch content!
the little riff at 3:20 or so song time right before riff 2 is one of my favorite meshuggah riffs ever, sad we didnt go over it
And to think, all of that got cut out of the music video. What a slap in the face.
So helpful having it written out like I’m in kindergarten (I’m not kidding, thank you)
Bless you and thank you Yogev for your opening statement. I have felt the same since 1998 when I first was captured by Meshuggah. I owe my entire drumming improvement and growth (and mind splitting) to these legends in Meshuggah.
Thank you so much for making this. I'm a singer so this is very foriegn but one of my favorite songs of all time.
The amount of energy You put in this video to cut these elements on "bitmap" just to show us what is it about is so big. Thank You for your hard work to explain Us Bleed!
You're very welcome !
Thank you so much man, this is priceless. I hope you are monetizing this.😉
Incredible breakdown in TWO videos. You feature many bands I love so I subbed pretty quick!
Thank you for the opening statement
I've been listening to Meshuggah for a few years and have always struggled to figure out the count.... These videos are perfect for me.
Ill be tuning in for Mayshuggah!!!!
Keep it up brother!!!
You are absolutely amazing at this man
"You can still headbang to this so easily" - uhhhh it was me and two other people headbanging at one of their concerts.
Add the intro PSA to part 1 too…and to all your Meshuggah videos. And keep up the good work!
I’m bleeding through my mind and my ears are flooded with the blood of dissonance.