Darth Marr was the epitome of the honorable warrior. He was solely focused on obtaining a better life and safety for the Sith people and even his pursuit of war was a means to protect his people. He definitely earned my respect in the game
My most respected sith lord, the top and most authoritive and intellegent Sith lord, and above all the one true sith leader of all of koroban. He is the very definition of what the sith empire had and needed back then and now. He was the one person who could show and give and example of what the sith could've have been, but not brutal, vile, twisted, and mad tyrants. He was a true sith leader, a true example of what the sith empire could have been, and probably the only one i look up too as of now this day.
This sounds like a Sith I wouldn't have minded to follow. Conviction, principle and a concern for others is a thing generally missing from almost all Sith.
I love how you could quite literally hear him grinding his teeth if you got a bit too uppity with him, but he still reigned in his anger. At one point as a bounty hunter you can call him out on all of the backstabbing the Sith deal in, and how, if they'd hire you to kill as many Jedi as you've killed rogue Sith Lords, the Empire would have won the war by now. His reply? "Your tone is not appreciated. Your sentiment is correct." You can hear him seething with anger about this, but he doesn't even strangle you a bit like most Sith Lords would. Swell guy.
"The will of the Force is a flowing current. You can follow it, or fight it, but it is always there. It is not an ally, slave, or transaction. The Force is a paradox. It empowers and imprisons. It destroys and unites. It binds the galaxy together and tears people apart. It has a will... but needs a commander. There is no death, there is only the Force. And it has a plan ". " Let another claim the throne. My place is in the battlefield". - Darth Marr Man is trully the gigachad of the dark council. When the others sith would slice each other to achieve personal gain, he instead did the opposite thing, tried to stabilize the Empire and make it prosper, with no intention to gave himself more power. Interestingly, Marr is trully respected the Jedi so much, not only that he worked with Satele Shan to help the outlander, but long before that when his fleet and republic's fleet got trapped to fight each other in Rishi by the Revanite, he actually bowed to Satele when they meet the first time to talked a peace and alliance againts the Revanite.
Marr saw the bigger picture. Of course he was trying to get more power for himself; he simply recognized that in the course of gathering more power for the Empire, he would naturally gather more for himself at the same time, and by stabilizing the Empire, he would ensure he could more easily hold that power. Plus, a stable Empire meant that the citizens wouldn't be so inclined to revolt, again making it easier to gather and hold power. Darth Marr was the epitome of working smarter.
He and Kreia would have had s field day of an argument. They both saw the force for what it was but differed on how to approach it. He accepted it up and tried to use its power to help in his own way while Kreia sought the eradication of the Force.
More than anything he was the sith that overcame the 1 thing any conventional sith fears: death. He didn't fear or try to cheat or overcome death, he embraced it and saw it as inevitable. That combined with a realistic view of his opponents in the jedi as capable warriors instead of a bunch of weaklings made himself a much better warrior than most other sith.
That is why I don't buy into the simple idea of Sith being evil for the sake of being evil, I would LOVE to see Darth Mar or some Sith similar to him in a movie or tv show some day!
The problem is George Lucas was all over the place. He took from Taoist belief. It might of been stolen from either Japanese movies or from Phillip K Dick. But he didn't quite understood it, and try to add good and evil. the light and dark side does not equate to good or evil in Taoism though. Others who help him write try to bring it back to the true Taoist belief. This is why the explanation of the force is fractured. But Notice some of the statements state, they need balance in the force. Remember Dooku was the smartest of the Jedi and left, and he taught Gui Gonn Jinn, which is the one who keeps talking about the prophesy of balance of the force. Which means that the dark side isn't really evil, but the issue is the lack of balance in the force. also this is not the only other instance of good dark sider. In the video game which stared the red headed actor from Gotham and shameless, Mirrin is a night witch from Dathomere, that is good. They are making a sequal to the movie. Hopeful Ashoka will deal with this as well. Remember, she left the Jedi and not in good terms.
@@slewone4905 Exactly, the force is just like any aspect in real life, you have the extremes and there is a middle, that is why the idea of the High Republic era is not appealing to me at all, I want to see a more nuanced take on the force/force users which doesn't paint the force in black and white only.
What I like about Marr is he embodies ah "light-side sith" he isn't a jedi and he isn't good or a pacifist but puts the empire first before himself and his power and influence is used to improve the empire not bend it to selfish desire. He isn't above trimming the out the useless but he doesn't simply kill people because they upset or talk back at him.
He seemed like a calm and reasonable person, considering he was a sith that says a lot. It also seemed like he would've been an advocate for the rule of 2 or at least something like it.
The Rule of Two was a terrible idea. If anything Marr would have been against it. To be betrayed by your apprentice or to find a new one just because they're stronger goes against the "unity" that Marr likes to rep. Cohesion towards a common goal is his modus operandi
Darth Marr is definitely one of my favorite Sith Lords after this video, he truly earned his position and reputation. I would’ve loyally served under him if I was a Sith, that’s a man i could call Master
“Valkorion destroyed my body, but not my reason for being. Force has a Will of its own, and has plans for me. -Marr on why he became a force ghost. All Hail Darth Marr… The sith to loyal to die, the Sith the Force itself alive as a ghost, the avatar of what the Sith could’ve been but can’t be, the man the Emperor himself feared, the greatest member of the Dark Council, the noble and Lawful Evil sith, and the only sith worthy to be emperor since Marka Ragnos.
So, when the Sith Emperor felt like cleaning house, he'd send Lord Scourge down, from his cloaked station, and even the Dark Council often only "interacted" with their ruler through this Sith Juggernaut. Scourge could rather easily cleave his way through even numerous Sith, so I wonder if Lord Marr was actually better than Scourge, or if the two simply avoided a conflict for the good if the Empire?
Thank you for your amazing work doing these videos man, love you. I played swtor for many many years and I gotta say the best thing of Darth mar was his voice , he made normal thing sound so epic I loved it so much that randomly I remember his lines when doing no star wars related things specially his dialogues from pvp matches XD
I played my first swtor character Wrath as if he was a dark jedi that found his place in the empire (not trying to dominate it), kind of how you describe Marr. Which is why when I saw his line against Valkorion it hit home, similarly It felt like crap when Malgus became the False Emperor and there was no allying with him or letting him go (even if it was possibly out of ambition, which I personally don't buy into since I thought he was closer in character to Marr, but that's probably just me)I
Not the ONLY one, no. Kel'eth Ur also, as he said: "...eternal and at peace...". Kel'eth Ur was a Human male and former Sith Lord of the reconstituted Sith Empire who resided on Dromund Kaas. By the end of his life, he taught that passion only led to temporary strength and that true strength was found in peace - a philosophy conventionally associated with the Jedi. In 4606 BBY, he was killed by the Emperor for his heresy - From his holocron: "...It's a lie. Fear is a lie. Passion, a lie. Fear gives only temporary powers, and passion is easily manipulated. Real strength in the Force comes when one is no longer afraid..." - SWTOR
Him, and malgus are my two favorite sith Lords. When I played through the eternal empire quest line, on my sith warrior, his line is what I feel like a true sith should be imo.
darth marr, the man, the sith, the legend. his legacy survived through the jedi and the republic in the end. If he had survived the war the eternal empire, he would have become emperor like wave said, ushered in a new golden age, maybe even changing sithphilosophy in a way. His sithlegacy was destroyed the moment he died, ironic that in that moment he accepted part of the jedicode, the force granting him becoming a force ghost, so his knowledge could be passed on to someone who was worthy. But even in death, his identity was his.
I think it would be fascinating if you covered the story of Darth Imperius, the Light side story of the Sith Inquisitor from this game. As well as the Light story for the Emperor's Wrath.
Although I think that the light side or neutral versions of the character isn't Cannon, Darth Imperius and Occlus, both get along very well with Marr. And it seems they worked to try and better the lives of the imperial population.
Marr was a closet Jedi... Perhaps an ACTUAL EVEN as far to say a Light Sith that no one wanted to believe was closer to a Light Sith or Grey Force User then a traditional Sith. Judging by how, he acted and conducted himself which was QUITE admirable even honorable sounds like..
@@karlrovey maybe, probably, definitely not a Sith Die hard, or Traditionalist by any means. Only reason to TRULY become a Force Ghost and TRULY care about others is to NOT truly be a Sith. They by definition DONT an even CANT care about others an given the Force is VERY clear about this part to be a Force Ghost in the Light way BUT to say THIS is how it somehow happened means when it suited him Marr was entirely Light minded more like Revan and less like Vitiate, Bane or Sideous or anyone like that
Had he survived longer, I could almost see Marr reuniting with the Jedi to create a new more balanced order more like the Jedha that preceded both The Jedi and The Sith.
Too many Sith become so drunk on their own power that they forget why they wanted that power in the first place. I wish there were more dark side force users that gain the self awareness to seek balance, if not for others, for their own sake as followers of the Sith creed.
Darth Marr succeeded where Yuthura fron Kotor 1 failed. He was able to get over the lust of power the dark side fosters and stayed focused on his goals.
Darth Marr is someone who never does anything without a purpose, even his more cruel acts have a purpose to them. And unlike most Sith he doesn’t seek greater power just for power’s sake but rather seeks power to use as a more effective tool to serve what he perceives as the greater good. He wasn’t hampered by greed or ego and even in his final moments stayed true to his convictions. If I was a Jedi Darth Marr would be someone that while I disagree with I would ultimately respect him for his convictions to his cause regardless of whether I agreed with him or not. So few people both in Star Wars and in real life have that level of conviction and that’s something that should be respected.
Sith Warrior: "Too many Sith--my old master among them--have vied for power against the interests of the Empire. Too many Moffs have tolerated incompetence. The Empire must change. And if we must stand on the precipice of death to do so, then so be it." Darth Marr: "We stand as one." During Echoes of oblivion about Tenebrae to the commander. Darth Marr: He thinks you will be lost here forever.... but you have always known the way to destroy him. Together, we will find his doom. Satele is stronger than this... duplicate believes. She is not the easy prey he assumes. He gleans the facts of his other lives from the memories and impressions of Satele and her students. But he has only the knoweledge of those events. This Tenebrae possesses none of the wisdom earned by experiencing them. Do not share in his arrogance. He is more vulnerable than he would have us believe, but he is still the most dangerous being in the galaxy. If we fail to destroy him here and now, there may never be another opportunity. He is a relic of an era long past. Destroy him-break the chains he uses to ensnare us all. Free the galaxy from his manipulations. Avenge me. Avenge us all!
In a roundabout in somewhat ironic way Darth Mar follow the Jedi code in the betterment of the Galaxy as a whole and even though he followed the Dark Side and the Sith teachings ultimately he turned against completely insane tactics and strategies in which to try and Conquer and and rule the galaxy
Back when i played swtor alot, i never really knew marr, as i onoy played jedi, then eternal empire came out and i saw the badass cutscene of marr stepping up to valkorian, and im like damn hes based asf so i started playing sith and he became my favorite sith lord of all time
i think i've stated this before in regards to Galen but the dark side can be tamed and controlled. the problem is that the things that empower those who use it (greed, selfish acts, lust for power, etc) also empowers the corrupting nature of the dark side. but you have to look deeper. far deeper than any beliefs and look at what the force itself is on a fundumental level. it is the energy of the universe. its will if you like. but its not static. it ebbs and flows. places that are completely neutral within the force tend to be innert. little, if anything, happens there. but there are currents. flows. sources and sinks. places that foster growth and life are rich in the force. places that that that are harsh and barren fosters change and it is that change that is seen as corruption. as the dark side. but then you have places like Dagobah. it was, by all accounts, a "darkside aligned" planet. but why? it had abundant life. it had no native intelegent life. and yet it was "evil"? how? why? change. though vibrant, the planet was in fact in a state of perpetual regrowth due to the harsh nature of its ecosystem. and yet the planet was never corrupted like places such as Dathomer. why is that. because there was no ill will. there was no greed or lust for power or grand ambitions. things did as much as they needed to to survive. no more. no less. then never took from the land. only borrowed, returning it once they died. so why this tangent about a planet? well, think about it. why do most people reach out to the dark side? because they have been tempted with power. now. why did Galen reach out to the dark side? because its all he knew. he was only trying to survive. he didn't want to overthrow Palpatine. he didn't want to rule the galaxy. he just followed his instincts. as such the dark side had very little to corrupt. in fact its only in the dark side endings of both games that it ever does corrupt him and thats because he gives into selfish emotions of revenge. granted this did make him less powerful in the darkside but it meant that he had more control over the power he did have. the same is true of Darth Marr. he had emotions, but he knew how to temper them. more to the point he did not act selfishly, just cruelly; but never without good reason. the light and dark sides of the force are two parts of the same whole. life and death. good and evil. stability and change. its a ballet. there is no reason a jedi cant be selfish nor a sith selfless. it is about how they go about this that changes things. the council acted selfishly in the prequals, oppting to ignore the warnings of a sith. likewise Galen and Marr acted selflessly, not only in self sacrafice but in principle. Galen's motivations were only ever to protect those he cared about. he did nor care about the disruption he caused in his wake. he promoted change and perpetuated the flow of the force. Marr had respect for life and death. he understood their pourpose and the cost of taking it unjustly. a warrior goes to their fate knowingly and willingly (in theory). but a simple farmer startled by your fearful presence and raises their tool it defence? they are only doing as their instinct drives them to in self presevation. there's no need to kill them or even react. it seems that Marr may have been like this. he went with the "flow" of the force and promoted change where he went. all while remaining still within the flow. it is the same stillness that a jedi must have to transcend. its not about the light or the dark. its about being certain of who you are and at peace with your past and at ease with the future you left behind. something a typical sith can never do, due to their desire to gain more and more. but when you act beyond yourself alone you become something more than most could ever comprehend. you become one with the force. the ebb and flow of the galaxy. the constant cycle of life and death. only when you can stop and see that flow can you step beyond it, and walk to the river bank.
I know ALOT of people will not agree but it seems to me that he would be like a Qui-Gon Jinn type but more so of the sith way of thinking instead of jedi as he turned into a force ghost by the time he passed. I may be COMPLETELY wrong in my thinking though as I wouldn't know the full story of him
Here is a question to anyone in the comments who replaced Darth Marr on the dark council after his death, at the hands of the emperor of the eternal empire, I believe that it was Darth Crowbush, because she was a tactician and just a skilled Darth Marr what is during his legendary life
Honestly, if the entire Sith Empire was ruled by those who think and act like Darth Marr there is a good chance they could have been stable and strong enough to beat the Republic.
"It is YOU who fears death, Valkorion. I do not. I will not kneel." - Darth Marr's famous last words (as a living being)
I sense u are like 39.......
@@EraserTraceur -18 give or take
@@VoidTemplar wow didn't know star wars fans that young still read and have old school knowledge
NOICE bruh. Im a trekky. Lul 38 years old
@@EraserTraceur it's been 10 years since swtor was released, idk if it's that old
@@meowdaleekittenpaw9443 true
Darth Marr was the epitome of the honorable warrior. He was solely focused on obtaining a better life and safety for the Sith people and even his pursuit of war was a means to protect his people. He definitely earned my respect in the game
My most respected sith lord, the top and most authoritive and intellegent Sith lord, and above all the one true sith leader of all of koroban. He is the very definition of what the sith empire had and needed back then and now. He was the one person who could show and give and example of what the sith could've have been, but not brutal, vile, twisted, and mad tyrants. He was a true sith leader, a true example of what the sith empire could have been, and probably the only one i look up too as of now this day.
Rest in peace, Darth Marr. Least you went out in a blaze of glory, like Bon Jovi said.
I wonder if he ever used an old coat for a pillow 🤔
Come to think of it Bon Jovi is such a plausible name in the Star Wars universe
This sounds like a Sith I wouldn't have minded to follow. Conviction, principle and a concern for others is a thing generally missing from almost all Sith.
Screw up under his service, and he'll still force choke the shit out of you. But at least he probably wouldn't do it because he thought it was funny
@@PhycoKrusk yep. If he was to do it, it would have been for a real incident of very gross negligence. Not out of spite or pique.
I would send a resume to Vectivus first, he really cared for his employees and family and friends
I love how you could quite literally hear him grinding his teeth if you got a bit too uppity with him, but he still reigned in his anger.
At one point as a bounty hunter you can call him out on all of the backstabbing the Sith deal in, and how, if they'd hire you to kill as many Jedi as you've killed rogue Sith Lords, the Empire would have won the war by now. His reply? "Your tone is not appreciated. Your sentiment is correct."
You can hear him seething with anger about this, but he doesn't even strangle you a bit like most Sith Lords would. Swell guy.
That shows a depth of character most people will never notice and just say haha bad guy turned good.
"The will of the Force is a flowing current. You can follow it, or fight it, but it is always there. It is not an ally, slave, or transaction. The Force is a paradox. It empowers and imprisons. It destroys and unites. It binds the galaxy together and tears people apart. It has a will... but needs a commander. There is no death, there is only the Force. And it has a plan ".
" Let another claim the throne. My place is in the battlefield".
- Darth Marr
Man is trully the gigachad of the dark council. When the others sith would slice each other to achieve personal gain, he instead did the opposite thing, tried to stabilize the Empire and make it prosper, with no intention to gave himself more power. Interestingly, Marr is trully respected the Jedi so much, not only that he worked with Satele Shan to help the outlander, but long before that when his fleet and republic's fleet got trapped to fight each other in Rishi by the Revanite, he actually bowed to Satele when they meet the first time to talked a peace and alliance againts the Revanite.
Marr saw the bigger picture. Of course he was trying to get more power for himself; he simply recognized that in the course of gathering more power for the Empire, he would naturally gather more for himself at the same time, and by stabilizing the Empire, he would ensure he could more easily hold that power.
Plus, a stable Empire meant that the citizens wouldn't be so inclined to revolt, again making it easier to gather and hold power. Darth Marr was the epitome of working smarter.
He and Kreia would have had s field day of an argument. They both saw the force for what it was but differed on how to approach it. He accepted it up and tried to use its power to help in his own way while Kreia sought the eradication of the Force.
A Sith Lord who followed the dark side but used its power to benefit others. Respect
Absolutely love Darth Marr. He and Malgus were supremely interesting and deep.
& Revan too
@@gonhunter3994 revan's story is fantastic
More than anything he was the sith that overcame the 1 thing any conventional sith fears: death. He didn't fear or try to cheat or overcome death, he embraced it and saw it as inevitable. That combined with a realistic view of his opponents in the jedi as capable warriors instead of a bunch of weaklings made himself a much better warrior than most other sith.
Better than all Sith in my point of view. He was the example of what the Sith could have become.
Probably the only to ever master the Dark Side without being corrupted by it.
Darth Vectivus too
Revan (at least accordingly to KOTOR lore), Kreya and Malgus as well.
Possibly Outlander, Plagueis, Dooku and legends Luke Skywalker as well.
Ooh good point.
@kacperrutkowski6350 dooku no... plageius yes until the last days where he was corrupted
That is why I don't buy into the simple idea of Sith being evil for the sake of being evil, I would LOVE to see Darth Mar or some Sith similar to him in a movie or tv show some day!
The problem is George Lucas was all over the place. He took from Taoist belief. It might of been stolen from either Japanese movies or from Phillip K Dick. But he didn't quite understood it, and try to add good and evil. the light and dark side does not equate to good or evil in Taoism though. Others who help him write try to bring it back to the true Taoist belief. This is why the explanation of the force is fractured.
But Notice some of the statements state, they need balance in the force. Remember Dooku was the smartest of the Jedi and left, and he taught Gui Gonn Jinn, which is the one who keeps talking about the prophesy of balance of the force. Which means that the dark side isn't really evil, but the issue is the lack of balance in the force.
also this is not the only other instance of good dark sider. In the video game which stared the red headed actor from Gotham and shameless, Mirrin is a night witch from Dathomere, that is good. They are making a sequal to the movie. Hopeful Ashoka will deal with this as well. Remember, she left the Jedi and not in good terms.
@@slewone4905 Exactly, the force is just like any aspect in real life, you have the extremes and there is a middle, that is why the idea of the High Republic era is not appealing to me at all, I want to see a more nuanced take on the force/force users which doesn't paint the force in black and white only.
Passion isn't necessarily evil afterall.
I would love to see this guy get more content made on him.
What I like about Marr is he embodies ah "light-side sith" he isn't a jedi and he isn't good or a pacifist but puts the empire first before himself and his power and influence is used to improve the empire not bend it to selfish desire. He isn't above trimming the out the useless but he doesn't simply kill people because they upset or talk back at him.
I wish there was a movie based on Darth Marr. I have a lot of respect for him.
He seemed like a calm and reasonable person, considering he was a sith that says a lot. It also seemed like he would've been an advocate for the rule of 2 or at least something like it.
The Rule of Two was a terrible idea. If anything Marr would have been against it. To be betrayed by your apprentice or to find a new one just because they're stronger goes against the "unity" that Marr likes to rep. Cohesion towards a common goal is his modus operandi
All Hail Darth Marr, a true Sith and a great guy. Something you don't normally associate with Sith Lords.
The only sith to stand by darth nox's side in the old republic
As far as non-companion Sith in the Old Republic mmo, Marr is my favorite Sith, and one of my favorite Sith ever in the rest of the Legends Universe
Darth Marr would of been great Sith Emperor.
Darth Marr is definitely one of my favorite Sith Lords after this video, he truly earned his position and reputation. I would’ve loyally served under him if I was a Sith, that’s a man i could call Master
“Valkorion destroyed my body, but not my reason for being. Force has a Will of its own, and has plans for me.
-Marr on why he became a force ghost.
All Hail Darth Marr… The sith to loyal to die, the Sith the Force itself alive as a ghost, the avatar of what the Sith could’ve been but can’t be, the man the Emperor himself feared, the greatest member of the Dark Council, the noble and Lawful Evil sith, and the only sith worthy to be emperor since Marka Ragnos.
So, when the Sith Emperor felt like cleaning house, he'd send Lord Scourge down, from his cloaked station, and even the Dark Council often only "interacted" with their ruler through this Sith Juggernaut. Scourge could rather easily cleave his way through even numerous Sith, so I wonder if Lord Marr was actually better than Scourge, or if the two simply avoided a conflict for the good if the Empire?
Darth marr understood that a leader must be both cruel and merciful. One cannot lead through fear alone
Glory to the Empire.
Didn't know about this dark warrior before.
Thanks for this!
P.S.: Always love your enthusiasm and commitment to the bit 😄👍👍
Thank you for your amazing work doing these videos man, love you.
I played swtor for many many years and I gotta say the best thing of Darth mar was his voice , he made normal thing sound so epic I loved it so much that randomly I remember his lines when doing no star wars related things specially his dialogues from pvp matches XD
I played my first swtor character Wrath as if he was a dark jedi that found his place in the empire (not trying to dominate it), kind of how you describe Marr.
Which is why when I saw his line against Valkorion it hit home, similarly It felt like crap when Malgus became the False Emperor and there was no allying with him or letting him go (even if it was possibly out of ambition, which I personally don't buy into since I thought he was closer in character to Marr, but that's probably just me)I
Playing as Darth Imperius i felt like Darth Marr was the only other sith that i had a true camaraderie with, made me sad to see him go
Sith harness strong feelings , and righteous anger can be very powerful if harnessed.
Corrupt Jedi and Noble Sith are my vibe
Not the ONLY one, no. Kel'eth Ur also, as he said: "...eternal and at peace...".
Kel'eth Ur was a Human male and former Sith Lord of the reconstituted Sith Empire who resided on Dromund Kaas. By the end of his life, he taught that passion only led to temporary strength and that true strength was found in peace - a philosophy conventionally associated with the Jedi. In 4606 BBY, he was killed by the Emperor for his heresy - From his holocron: "...It's a lie. Fear is a lie. Passion, a lie. Fear gives only temporary powers, and passion is easily manipulated. Real strength in the Force comes when one is no longer afraid..." - SWTOR
Started following you and a couple of other SW channels during the pandemic and I still enjoy your content, all of your videos are awesome dude.
You should do a video about what was Vitiates most powerfull form/body
Him, and malgus are my two favorite sith Lords. When I played through the eternal empire quest line, on my sith warrior, his line is what I feel like a true sith should be imo.
darth marr, the man, the sith, the legend. his legacy survived through the jedi and the republic in the end. If he had survived the war the eternal empire, he would have become emperor like wave said, ushered in a new golden age, maybe even changing sithphilosophy in a way.
His sithlegacy was destroyed the moment he died, ironic that in that moment he accepted part of the jedicode, the force granting him becoming a force ghost, so his knowledge could be passed on to someone who was worthy. But even in death, his identity was his.
I like the clip when the sentence “lustful with power” was said lmao . If you know , you know
I think it would be fascinating if you covered the story of Darth Imperius, the Light side story of the Sith Inquisitor from this game.
As well as the Light story for the Emperor's Wrath.
Your new outro is fire
What feeds the Dark Side?
Passion.
What feeds passion?
Purpose.
Excellent character with a true sense of duty.
Although I think that the light side or neutral versions of the character isn't Cannon, Darth Imperius and Occlus, both get along very well with Marr. And it seems they worked to try and better the lives of the imperial population.
Darth Marr was a warrior with conviction and that's why I believe that, even though he was a Sith Lord, he was in essence a good man.
Marr was a closet Jedi... Perhaps an ACTUAL EVEN as far to say a Light Sith that no one wanted to believe was closer to a Light Sith or Grey Force User then a traditional Sith. Judging by how, he acted and conducted himself which was QUITE admirable even honorable sounds like..
I tonk he was firmly entrenched in the Dark Side until the alliance against the Revanites.
@@karlrovey maybe, probably, definitely not a Sith Die hard, or Traditionalist by any means. Only reason to TRULY become a Force Ghost and TRULY care about others is to NOT truly be a Sith. They by definition DONT an even CANT care about others an given the Force is VERY clear about this part to be a Force Ghost in the Light way BUT to say THIS is how it somehow happened means when it suited him Marr was entirely Light minded more like Revan and less like Vitiate, Bane or Sideous or anyone like that
Very few sith would do things to better the empire and its citizens. Marr being one of the very few exceptions
Had he survived longer, I could almost see Marr reuniting with the Jedi to create a new more balanced order more like the Jedha that preceded both The Jedi and The Sith.
*je'daii
Too many Sith become so drunk on their own power that they forget why they wanted that power in the first place. I wish there were more dark side force users that gain the self awareness to seek balance, if not for others, for their own sake as followers of the Sith creed.
For Emporia and Empire. That would have been his motto.
Darth Marr sounds like a parent with 12 grown kids and they keep Messing up the house🤣
Now that guy would make a good Star Wars movie! If we ever see Star Wars movies from the old republic hopefully we will!
they were going to make one, but it's on hold or cancelled, due to the issues that happen after Han Solo movie.
Few interesting sides of darth marr can be found in fatal alliance and inhalation books
Pretty worthy holocrans to open
It's good to know that he's a good Sith.
Darth Marr, I Love this guy!
What an amazing character and one that runs tangent to the typical sith
Darth Marr succeeded where Yuthura fron Kotor 1 failed. He was able to get over the lust of power the dark side fosters and stayed focused on his goals.
That guy's something else.
A sith with morals interesting 🤔
I love the fact that his force ghost is still in full armor. Dude was a warrior indeed
Darth Marr is probably my favourite Sith Lord of the Old Republic era if not of all time.
Darth Marr is someone who never does anything without a purpose, even his more cruel acts have a purpose to them. And unlike most Sith he doesn’t seek greater power just for power’s sake but rather seeks power to use as a more effective tool to serve what he perceives as the greater good. He wasn’t hampered by greed or ego and even in his final moments stayed true to his convictions. If I was a Jedi Darth Marr would be someone that while I disagree with I would ultimately respect him for his convictions to his cause regardless of whether I agreed with him or not. So few people both in Star Wars and in real life have that level of conviction and that’s something that should be respected.
Earth marr sounds like an ancient form of thrawn
Okay ... everything about him is cool as shit
Sith Warrior: "Too many Sith--my old master among them--have vied for power against the interests of the Empire. Too many Moffs have tolerated incompetence. The Empire must change. And if we must stand on the precipice of death to do so, then so be it."
Darth Marr: "We stand as one."
During Echoes of oblivion about Tenebrae to the commander.
Darth Marr: He thinks you will be lost here forever.... but you have always known the way to destroy him. Together, we will find his doom. Satele is stronger than this... duplicate believes. She is not the easy prey he assumes. He gleans the facts of his other lives from the memories and impressions of Satele and her students. But he has only the knoweledge of those events. This Tenebrae possesses none of the wisdom earned by experiencing them. Do not share in his arrogance. He is more vulnerable than he would have us believe, but he is still the most dangerous being in the galaxy. If we fail to destroy him here and now, there may never be another opportunity. He is a relic of an era long past. Destroy him-break the chains he uses to ensnare us all. Free the galaxy from his manipulations. Avenge me. Avenge us all!
In a roundabout in somewhat ironic way Darth Mar follow the Jedi code in the betterment of the Galaxy as a whole and even though he followed the Dark Side and the Sith teachings ultimately he turned against completely insane tactics and strategies in which to try and Conquer and and rule the galaxy
Darth Marr is one of my favorite sith lords from Star Wars The Old Republic
Would love a series of Darth Marr he does sound like a very interesting character
Who would study archives when there are lords alive we can learn from
Great backstory!
There was actually another Sith that was good as well but great video.
He is without a doubt one bad ass looking Sith. I mean wow he looks so sick.
Reminder to Sith Lords: Be more like Darth Marr.
One of the few sith I can respect
Next to Revan Marr is my favors Star Wars character and if I was a sith I would want Marr as my master
Back when i played swtor alot, i never really knew marr, as i onoy played jedi, then eternal empire came out and i saw the badass cutscene of marr stepping up to valkorian, and im like damn hes based asf so i started playing sith and he became my favorite sith lord of all time
A sith that achieved a force spirit wow amazing. You could say that in his death he achieved the light side.
im pretty sure him becoming a force ghost had nothing to do with him being good, was just something pre canon
Darth Marr one of the guys I really like with the Sith.
This dude needs a game you could easily do a revan like story and make it a duo or trilogy if the source material is plentifull
i think i've stated this before in regards to Galen but the dark side can be tamed and controlled. the problem is that the things that empower those who use it (greed, selfish acts, lust for power, etc) also empowers the corrupting nature of the dark side. but you have to look deeper. far deeper than any beliefs and look at what the force itself is on a fundumental level. it is the energy of the universe. its will if you like. but its not static. it ebbs and flows. places that are completely neutral within the force tend to be innert. little, if anything, happens there. but there are currents. flows. sources and sinks. places that foster growth and life are rich in the force. places that that that are harsh and barren fosters change and it is that change that is seen as corruption. as the dark side. but then you have places like Dagobah. it was, by all accounts, a "darkside aligned" planet. but why? it had abundant life. it had no native intelegent life. and yet it was "evil"? how? why? change. though vibrant, the planet was in fact in a state of perpetual regrowth due to the harsh nature of its ecosystem. and yet the planet was never corrupted like places such as Dathomer. why is that. because there was no ill will. there was no greed or lust for power or grand ambitions. things did as much as they needed to to survive. no more. no less. then never took from the land. only borrowed, returning it once they died. so why this tangent about a planet? well, think about it. why do most people reach out to the dark side? because they have been tempted with power. now. why did Galen reach out to the dark side? because its all he knew. he was only trying to survive. he didn't want to overthrow Palpatine. he didn't want to rule the galaxy. he just followed his instincts. as such the dark side had very little to corrupt. in fact its only in the dark side endings of both games that it ever does corrupt him and thats because he gives into selfish emotions of revenge. granted this did make him less powerful in the darkside but it meant that he had more control over the power he did have. the same is true of Darth Marr. he had emotions, but he knew how to temper them. more to the point he did not act selfishly, just cruelly; but never without good reason. the light and dark sides of the force are two parts of the same whole. life and death. good and evil. stability and change. its a ballet. there is no reason a jedi cant be selfish nor a sith selfless. it is about how they go about this that changes things. the council acted selfishly in the prequals, oppting to ignore the warnings of a sith. likewise Galen and Marr acted selflessly, not only in self sacrafice but in principle. Galen's motivations were only ever to protect those he cared about. he did nor care about the disruption he caused in his wake. he promoted change and perpetuated the flow of the force. Marr had respect for life and death. he understood their pourpose and the cost of taking it unjustly. a warrior goes to their fate knowingly and willingly (in theory). but a simple farmer startled by your fearful presence and raises their tool it defence? they are only doing as their instinct drives them to in self presevation. there's no need to kill them or even react. it seems that Marr may have been like this. he went with the "flow" of the force and promoted change where he went. all while remaining still within the flow. it is the same stillness that a jedi must have to transcend. its not about the light or the dark. its about being certain of who you are and at peace with your past and at ease with the future you left behind. something a typical sith can never do, due to their desire to gain more and more. but when you act beyond yourself alone you become something more than most could ever comprehend. you become one with the force. the ebb and flow of the galaxy. the constant cycle of life and death. only when you can stop and see that flow can you step beyond it, and walk to the river bank.
I thought i saw a Vampire in the Thumbnail😆
I never heard of a good Sith. Cool!!
I wonder how the Rule of Two era Sith viewed him.
Imagen if this guy was the sith emperor instead of Palpatine in a what if,the galactic empire would become a prosperous empire
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I love the old republic, but arent you forgetting how vader or anakin turned into a force ghost in EP 6?
SOME LOUD ASS MUSIC AT THE END REALLY KILLS THE VIBE WHEN IM AT WORK KILLING TME
He sounds so cool
I will like to see him in a Movie, or TV show.
Stu, you need to compare and contrast Dark Jedi, Grey Jedi, and Jedi sith/lightside sith.
I know ALOT of people will not agree but it seems to me that he would be like a Qui-Gon Jinn type but more so of the sith way of thinking instead of jedi as he turned into a force ghost by the time he passed. I may be COMPLETELY wrong in my thinking though as I wouldn't know the full story of him
He's really cool
Here is a question to anyone in the comments who replaced Darth Marr on the dark council after his death, at the hands of the emperor of the eternal empire, I believe that it was Darth Crowbush, because she was a tactician and just a skilled Darth Marr what is during his legendary life
I wonder how Yoda's Jedi Council feels about him
Some level of respect but not much because he was a Sith.
I think Darth Marr is tied with Exar Kun for my favorite character
Darth Marr is like Spock logic runs his program
Honestly, if the entire Sith Empire was ruled by those who think and act like Darth Marr there is a good chance they could have been stable and strong enough to beat the Republic.
Good Sith died bravely and became a force ghost.
I can respect Darth Mar.
Best sith ever
He was my ancestor. That means that anything great that he achieved is also my achievement because genetics
Basically if plo koon was a sith
Yes!