I also felt like the constant meta dialouge of it being a requal, ways to survive, things you should and shouldn't do, needing to bring back the OG characters to not piss off the fans, etc., was overdone. It was basically every other line and overshadowed any actual plot and emotion. I know the old movies did it a bit but they also kept a really strong story and character development going. It was just way too much this time around.
Scream 4 had better writing in terms of original new characters and development that felt like they knew each-other and it balanced them well with the legacy characters while scream 2022 they were poorly written and didn’t have character behind most of the names at all just seemed like people to kill randomly and the legacy characters were so disconnected
Exactly what I feel. 20 minutes into Scream 4 and I already know and love the new cast. They blended so perfectly with the old ones I sometimes forgot they were not carried over from the previous films. Fast forward to Scream 2022 and in the beginning of the final act I'm still trying to remember who was who on Tara's group of friends.
@@gabrielgomes4228 Same here. Liv was useless and totally unnecessary. Liv and Amber could've been merged together as one character and Amber could've had more screen time.
@@MaryTheresa1986 Right? When Amber revealed herself as (one of) the killer(s) and shot Liv I thought: "Wow! So it was... who is this again?". Really, my surprise faded while processing the scene. In no other Scream movie I had the reveal moment diluted by trying to remember who was the character like in this one. I remember now but it's only because I read about it and saw many reviews after seeing the movie.
@@gabrielgomes4228YES! Scream 4, you know all their names, people were freaking the fuck out with Kirby will she/won’t she live etc. I will never forget being in the theater and hearing a woman go,”that bitch has lost her mind” when Jill was going through the table. In 5, there were too many characters , not enough time to develop them, and I really do only remember Mandy. It’s way past the millennium, I need a goddamn motive. This had a huge amount of potential. Even though I loved Judy Hicks, they should have kept her out. It was pointless. She had some of the best one liners in the fourth. I’m late to this channel, sorry for the rant.
The back story just nonsense, the killers motive is beyond stupid (I absolutely hated it), I really didn’t care for any of the new characters. A total disappointment all together, especially Dewey’s death / he didn’t deserve that. I agree with you 1000%
@@LadyLiberty-c8i Yeah, I don’t know why I keep expecting to be impressed by these run-of-the-mill sequels. You can only do the copycat killer thing once, then it inevitably becomes trite and tired.
The motive was brilliant and a direct critique of toxic fans that cannot let things go and move on. Scream ended with Sydney's story arc coming to a close. 4 was garbage a TikTok, Snapchat filter, nepotism of cast with corny jokes.
Your take is refreshing. I was starting to feel like I was the only one let down by the new film. It wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen, but that Wes quote at the end of this video really summed it up. This film seemingly hit all the technical beats, but neglected to add much heart and soul, all while taking the legacy cast for granted. I'd give it a 5.5/10
@@bug8357 Wtf are u talking about?? This movie sucked in comparison to the first 4. This next generation is filled with a bunch of Billy loomis wannabes. How’s that putting a lot of “effort” and “love” into the film????! Cliche after cliche and lazy writing. That’s a fact
I actually liked Sam, i really don’t understand the hate. I like the fact that she’s not like the cliche young virgin, also she has a huge dilema being the daughter of a serial killer, which i felt was really fresh and new, she’s the completely opposite to Sidney’s in the first movie, which is good.
Wes craven was a master at suspense! The film had no suspense and was lacking the build up to the kills which made the chase scenes iconic and synonymous with the scream franchise. Any of the new cat and mouse chase scenes do not compare with the opening of scream 1 or scream 2 'gales chase scene' 🤔
Can I just say I was very disappointed on how Stu’s character was looked over as “oh he was just Billy’s accomplice” nothing special, one of the girls was literally looking back and forward asking “Who’s Stu Macher??” That’s what made the first Scream iconic because it was TWO Ghostface killers and I truly loved Stu’s character because he’s too goofy to be the killer, but SURPRISE! Like Stu was much more than a weak accomplice, Stu never got caught or slipped up, Billy got caught with the phone and got arrested and I felt Stu had to hurry up and pick up and cover were Billy left to continue pulling it off. #RespectStuMacher P.S. I did not like CGI Billy
I totally agree. The surprise element of the "who dun it" is one of the most exciting parts which I think was missing in the new movie. The original was masterful at misdirection which gave it a cleverness we definitely didn't see in this one.
How'd they overlook Stu? They were at HIS HOUSE 😅 or an upgraded version of it anyway. Stu wasn't caught slipping? Sidney killed him tho. Not hating on Stu but just saying. Skeet Ulrich was de-aged
@@rahbeeuh yea Sidney killed him after the reveal, but no one knew Stu was involved, even Randy suspected only Billy, Stu he figured was just a lapdog who couldn’t see Billy as the main suspect
My favorite scene in the movie hands down. When they visited Dewey and he gave Sam and Richie the rules to being in a real Scream movie. Dewey questioned Richie immediately and also said it was one of Tara’s friends. He nailed it just like Randy did in the original. I loved Richie. He spends the whole movie as the voice of reason calling out the possible killers, only to be the killer himself. It was as if Randy was the killer in the original. Great spin, great ghostface.
Mickey in Scream 2 also pointed the blame at others before revealing himself as the killer. He even got Sidney to distrust Derek. Dewey also said it’s always someone in the friend group, not true with Mrs. Loomis or Roman, no one liked that dude. He also said you can never trust the love interest even though Derek and Kincaide were good guys.
@@bronzemuseum504 yep. I’ve been a fan of Timothy Olyphant’s ever since. There hasn’t been a character/performance like his in any of the sequels since. No one’s out here being like, oh that Matt keeslar, he’s a future star
I thought Sam was kind of weak as the main character, Tara would’ve been a better choice. Also in one of the trailers Melissa Barrera said each new character is tied to a legacy character but once the killers were revealed I didn’t really see the connection.
Tara should be the main lead of this new scream trilogy because Melisa Barrera's acting was straight up awful throughout this film. Her character didn't really show much emotion and she was someone you couldn't take seriously.
@Aggressive Filmmaker I guess they counted Judy Hicks as a legacy character in Wes' case. Maybe the killers did care about some of the "stupid Stab sequels".
Sam’s backstory reminded me a mix of Mamma Mia and Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker, plus a mix of fanfiction so I don’t think that’s original. I can see how everyone is connected: Sam is Billy’s daughter obviously, Mindy and Chad are Randy’s niece and nephew, Wes is Judy Hick’s son, and Liv is the ex-girlfriend of Stu Macher’s nephew. (I wonder if Sam and Tara’s father will be seen or mentioned in Scream 6 and if he’ll have any connection or relation to previous characters. Since Kirby is supposedly to return in the 6th one, Sam and Tara’s father could probably be somehow related to her? Maybe Mr. Carpenter and Kirby can be cousins? I don’t know…)
I agree and it’s probably because they didn’t do a scene of her finding out via news. Like the scenes should’ve been dewy death- Sid finds out via breaking news- gale arrives on scene to see Dewey’s body bag. Then we could’ve had a visceral reaction from Sid and see her resolve to come back to woodsboro or even a scene with her telling Kincaid that she has to do this to protect her family and avenger dewy and she needs him to stay with the kids to protect them in case of anything.
My issue with the film is the inconsistencies when amber is ghostface like how she magically gets taller and her shoulders become more bigger and every time she gets hit she sounds like a man and the voice changer isn’t even on for her voice to be different.
Yeah I totally agree!! I hate how Scream is so unrealistic with the height differences and how they use tall Stuntmen.. No way 5’3 tiny Amber can overpower Dewey like that and stab him all the way up & pick him off his feet like that.. I don’t buy it
I agree with most of your points. There was barely any character development for the new cast, which meant the reveal of Amber meant nothing. The audience in the cinema had no reaction at all. I also think Mindy was so forced and cringe. No idea why she’s expected to be the breakout character - all her dialogue and scenes felt unnatural and too desperate to be Randy.
While I enjoyed the movie, my issue isn’t with the acting or the reveal/motives. During Judy’s race home, she asks the police to track her phone AND likely had a firearm, yet she didn’t think to draw it when running to the house. There’s also a massive time issue with Judy being left on the pavement in broad daylight and the amount of time Wes wanders the house. Nobody saw Judy get killed OR see her body laying out there? Only TWO police officers show AND the same ones from the hospital?
Honestly, I almost wonder if they heard that a lot of fans were theorizing that Wes and Judy were going to be the killers, and that's why they killed them off so early. At the same time, I did notice how stab happy at least the female killer who I already forgot the name of who was supposed to be Tara's ride or die BFF. It was almost like a mania. She sort of reminded me of Beth from season 3 of the TV show.
I think this movie and Scream 4 were very similar in concept and execution. I really liked it!! I do think Scream 4 did a better job balancing legacy characters and the new group but I get they’re trying to move forward without the legacy characters
I disagree buddy. The point of the movie was to intro us to a new world and cast WITH the OGs tied in. Sydney came in at the perfect time to me. Gale came at the perfect time.
Ghost dad Billy is straight up unforgivable. I had zero clue what they were going for with that....this didn't even feel like a scream film it just felt like a weird fan film. My suspension of disbelief just was not here for this movie, it felt like actors on a set, saying some meta shit that the writers thought would take their crappy slasher to the next level. I really hate this movie.
This movie was poorly written fan fiction at best. I agree 100%. Scream 4 should have been the last Scream. If this movie proved anything it's that you can't make a Scream film without Wes
@@nicolewhite3157 Yes, I thought he was a manifestion of her anxities and worries that she was going to turn into some kind of psycho because of him. It looks like him because he was the root cause of the problems that occurred in her mind.
@Aggressive Filmmaker But it seems that convincing filmmakers to not add fanservice or to keep it to the bare minimum is an art that have yet to be discovered.
What i dont like, is you have a 6 foot Ghostface the whole time and then the killer is revealed to be the shortest character in the movie lol. It makes it hard to believe that it was her doing the killing and When you break it down, Amber did most of the killing.
I think there was significance to the motive and them luring Sam to the house. They wanted her there because of how important the house was to the OG killings and her relation to Billy. They wanted to pin it all on her. I thought it was interesting. I respect your review and I totally see where you're coming from. Personally I loved the movie and I think it's the best sequel since the second movie.
yeah the reveal itself and motive wasnt that great BUT the way Ghostface was to put all the blame on Sam for being Billy's daughter was great af. First time where the one given the blame makes sense unlike older movies trying to put the blame on Sidney which made 0 sense. Correction Beside 1 time
Watch it at least 3 times before you make your final decision. First time you watch it you're basically subliminally looking for flaws. Second time you watch it you know who the killers are so you watch it knowing this and pay more attention to detail and realise the plot was actually really good. 3rd time you watch it you appreciate it more for what it was the meta, the gore, the performances, you pay attention to detail about every line. And if you can watch it 3 times and appreciate that this is a requel. And the scene where mindy explains it is literal and meta. It sets up and other 2 films at least. This movie had to happen exactly like this in order for the story to continue, which as fans, it's all we really want.
@@bronzemuseum504 that’s not accurate. In the first movie, the plan was to blame Sidney’s father. That did make sense because he was always a red herring, and it would have worked had Billy and Stu not been idiots by stabbing themselves before finishing Sidney. In this newest one, framing Sam doesn’t hold the same weight. She was never suspected, not even to us audience. It was just a convenient plot device since she was Billy’s daughter. That too was insignificant because it made no difference whatsoever to the events of the movie. The sisters could’ve been random girls in this town being targeted by their friends and nothing at all would be different from the actual plot. Why make her Billy’s daughter? Just so we can see Skeet return in an ill advised cameo? They could’ve done better
@@ravengyal + it would be hard for her to be framed since her sister was attacked before she comes back to town... any cops, if they aren't in soapland, would immediatly see the problem.
@@ravengyal i forgot to be more specific about which but yeah the majority is about Sidney taking the blame for different reasons. The first is the only one different. Also the fact that Sam isnt all that great takes nothing away thats shes the perfect scapegoat. Rewatch the movie and pay more attention even Dewey agrees on that point
Yes! They LIED to OG fans to make us think that Sidney, Dewey and Gale had significant roles, in order to get more ticket sales for the movie. It's a shame. When you see the trailer, you think that they have prominent roles, although Sam is the new final girl. But their roles were so small that if they'd been removed from the movie, it wouldn't impact the movie at all.
They didn’t lie we knew since they announced Neve Campbell agreed to do another Scream movie that they weren’t going to have significant roles bc they want to pass the torch.
@@frankpetersen6624 their humor, they fill the Randy void, the male character was expected to be a douche jock and he wasn’t, the female character was witty and funny
I mentioned this to you in Twitter already, but I’m honestly really grateful to see someone - you - openly criticizing the film, and despite the fact that I have a few more grievances, I completely agree with you. It was good, but it just didn’t feel like Scream and for me, the trio IS Scream so seeing them take a backseat felt so wrong. I didn’t feel any sort of connection to any of the new cast besides Sam and Tara, so having the trio used more as devices than the embodiment of the franchise really negated the impact of the story. Gale, Dewey, and Sid are and have always been my draw to the franchise, so sidelining “the heart” as Wes referred to them felt cheap and I genuinely feel like anything beyond this can’t be true to or honoring of the original films now that the trio is no more. A lot of people have compared the impact of [Death] to Randy’s, Tatum’s, Cotton’s, etc. but it’s just not the same because none of those characters are Scream in the way that these three are. But anyway, back to my original point - thank you so much for being honest with your critique!
I really enjoyed the movie, but the motive still doesn’t explain why they couldn’t just create a new movie about the original 3 regardless. Just go after them again
After watching what we got, I would have definitely preferred your idea. This movie suffered because of how little it was connected to the OG 3. I’ve always been a mega fan of them, but I went into this with an open mind. After seeing the movie, I am now a firm believer that Scream is the story of Sidney Prescott (and Gale and Dewey).
100%. Imagine how cool it would have been if there was a scene dedicated to Ghostface calling Sid, Gale and Dewey while they're all living their respective lives luring them back to Woodsboro.
i’m very disappointed, and i’ve been watching these movies since i was a kid, in my opinion the killers motives were just not well thought out, boring, and the new characters were SHALLOW. it felt like they just copied and pasted a lot from scream 4 idk it just felt shallow af and just didn’t do justice after this 10 year wait since scream 4
The opening girl was one of the best - she had a great arc through the movie, and I enjoyed how she survived! That was a fun little new idea... One thing that stuck out to me was how nonchalant Sidney was with the fact that her ex had an illegitimate daughter!! The ex that started all this nonsense... And I agree whole heartedly that the core trio was not used enough at all. Honestly, Dewey should've done a headshot from the first bullet - his character knows a lot better than that. Seemed like a poor excuse to have a shocking death. And the constant "meta" movie talk and "who is it?" dialogue got a little tedious throughout the movie. I could tell Kevin Williamson did not write this one...
“So you’re Billy Loomis’ daughter.” That’s it. No reaction to her being told he had a daughter. We’re not shown her being told he had a daughter. That shit would burn deep. When he shoots Ghsotface at the hospital, I was like yes, let’s kill one the killers before the finale. We haven’t seen that before. Then, never mind. I also hate that he gets distracted by his phone. Like, man, focus on the task at hand. Shoot first, answer phone later. And Ritchie has no reaction to Amber getting shot. And amber overpowers Dewey…
I agree. I would’ve at least liked a nod to the original movie with Sam and Tara’s mom maybe being one of the bitchy girls from the bathroom scene and Sidney possibly saying she knew Billy had been stepping out on her since she wasn’t giving him any sex
Dude…… THANK YOU. The amount of people I’ve seen falling all over themselves to call this a fantastic movie are nuts. It’s a perfectly solid/decent movie. The Mindy love is really crazy to me. Tara/Wes/Richie all killed it IMO. The rest of the new cast were solid (Mindy/Chad/Amber) to barely on screen (Liv/Vince) to downright bad (Sam’s acting really dampened this movie for me).
@@josearaujo2801 Definitely. I just think some people were gonna say it was fantastic movie regardless of how good or bad it really was. Just like I think some people were gonna crap on it regardless of how good or bad it was.
I agree Freddy! Perfectly fine, 6.0 (or 7.0) out of 10 film. Nothing special, idk why so many people seem to be overlooking obvious flaws with the film just to praise it beyond what it realistically deserves. & I’m a huge scream franchise fan. This is not a bad movie at all. Just not as groundbreaking as others claim.
Fantastic entry. Sydney’s line at the end “I always survive.” Was the perfect balance of meta and a beautiful end note to those suffering trauma. Gale not wanting to cover the murders in her next book was the perfect arc for her. She has definitely grown the most over the series. Dewey stole the show as one of OGC. His heroism and courage not just in this film but over the course of all movies - was celebrated in the most beautiful way. This film made me laugh, cry, sit on the edge of my seat. It was smart, it had SERIOUS heart, incredible acting in the likes of Jena Ortega. From the opening scene to Wes and his mom, to Dewey’s demise, Gale and Sydney taking down the killer, the high stake third act. It was 👌🏼
I'm guessing Gale didn't want to write about the murders both because of Dewey's death and because her books about the previous killing sprees partly motivated psychos to become Ghostface for fame.
@@davidallenconnects def my fav kills because of the emotion they brought out of me lol I really liked Wes, but he was barely there basically lol that's a good actor
Agree with everything you said. Motive needed to be more “personal” to Sam-and to Sidney, so as to link the characters in some way. The killers being random people sort of takes it out of the Scream movie template in an unfortunate way.
@@BombatronProductions I agree but maybe they were puppets and there is a leader in future scream. That's what I'm guessing. If u recall in scream 1 there 4 survivors the og 3 and randy. This one had the sisters and brother and sister still alive which makes 4 also. To me it would been better to keep wes alive instead and just kept mindy alive instead of her brother. Cause in a future installment having wes alive with his mom dead same with mindy with her brother death add more investment to them. Having them dwell on there loss would add more depth to there characters that's just my opinion. Example Wes apparently had a crush on Tara similar to randy was to sidney. It's Similar in a sense but differnt cause cause mindy is new randy and tara isnt the finale girl. But the result of the geek getting the girl is the same in that sense. Would of made more sense to me doin sumthing along those lines as there might be a trilogy involved.
you guys are tweaking ... the KILLERS didn't need to have any connection to any of their victims to kill ... if anything, this Scream movie was more realistic seeing as serial killers in real life have always gone after random people .. you guys are weird bruh lol
the connection between sam & billy & the “instinct” was really what saved the ending imo. I think the fan motive was really bland & everyone in the theater was very underwhelmed by that motive. I think there could’ve been something more creative done there. I feel like they went with that motive to make fans almost feel silly for having a dislike for the film, because it would essentially be proving the motives point.
Exactly. If the new movie can’t rely on the new actors and have to rely on the OG Ghostface to somewhat save the day? That’s not good. We can’t have Ghost Billy showing up to save the day in every movie.
I agree with this wholeheartedly and immediately thought this when the motive was revealed lol. It's honestly genius tho and I think it's working. I wanted to see the movie on opening night, but unfortunately didn't get to. every horror fan that I follow on instagram was posting about how much they loved the movie, that it was perfect, and the best scream since the original. obviously I was excited and had high expectations. so when I finally saw it tonight, I was extremely let down. I was genuinely questioning my own opinions because I thought "am I think toxic fan for not loving this as much as everyone else?!" I respect it tho because it makes me view the movie and the fans differently. it wasn't terrible by any means, and I can't wait to see it again. but I think some people are lying to themselves so they don't prove the point of the movie lmao
the motive was perfect .. i think it was written for weird ass fans like you guys .. always upset and knit picking at every movie and every sequel .. the movie was GREAT!! im tired of fans like you shitting on every sequel just because they didnt write the movie the way YOU want it to be written!!
The problem with the movie is that everything is said on the dialogue, there's no suspense or place to fill the void... For example Dewey and Gale talking about their relationship like... they haven't dealed with it before? It felt like it was just to serve the porpuse of informing the audiencie and not natural at all, or at the end when she says "I know what I will write about...a good sheriff that used to live in this Town" wtf kind of dialogue is that or Sam saying that monologue about been Billy's daughter like all is on the table, no sustance or ínterpretation. Wes Craven deserved better, nothing can replace the way he executed the scene and suspense. This movie fails to understand that just because Sam says we are trap on a fan fiction movie it justifys its lazyness, lack of original ideas and poorly execution. Dewey deserved better than to be killed by Amber (???) what an awful character that wsd, even Emma Roberts got to show at the end of Scream 4 that she was tough to deal with killing people, amber got shot with the bulletproof vest and just carried on like nothing happened to her. Wes Craven once said "never insult the audience" this movie just did that.
The reasons for almost every person that was killed or almost killed was they were related to, or involved with someone from the first 4 movies. Dewey was a legacy character obviously Judy was a returning character Wes was related to Judy Vince was Stu’s Nephew The Meeks twins Randy’s niece and nephew Tara was to lure Sam back Sam’s Billy’s daughter And Liv was just wrong place wrong time (or you can say it’s cause she was cheating on Chad with Stu’s Nephew) If you connect everyone to their lineage, it makes sense.
I think liv could be related to characters mentioned in the original. Casey's dad tells her mom to go to/call the MacKenzies. This was also a reference to the original Halloween.
I think they killed Dewey off to bring Sidney into the movie. She wouldn't have shown up otherwise. He told her not to come to Woodsboro, him dying serves as a good reason to show up.
@@moonlitdoll13 I think Sidney was already on her way back. I don't think she came back upon hearing Dewey died. That would have taken a couple of days and I'm sure it was the same day because why would Gale be at the hospital when she comes into town? Dewey died there so it makes sense for her to be there and mope that same day. And if David didn't want to play Dewey anymore, then they could have at least wrote him out where he still has his life. All that man went through and survived, and he goes out like this? It was bitter sweet.
The character death that I wasn't prepared for was Wes's death. Judy's death was inevitable in my mind when she got the call on her way to pick up dinner. But I thought Wes, her son, was going to get startled by a cop since Judy had called all available officers to her home. I assumed we were going to get a scene where cops come in and tell him to not go outside and he does and sees his mom. But we didn't get that.. So while he is getting everything ready for dinner, the music changes every time he opened a pantry door or the fridge and the whole time I'm thinking this sweet son who loves his Mom enough to carry around mace and tasers, is making up his mom's place setting and getting ice for her drink, reading that lemon square note and scoffing at how how funny his mom is. I just got the picture that they had a good relationship and he cares a lot about her. meanwhile she's been gutted on the porch, steps from the door. By that time I was like, shit a cops gonna come and he's gonna see her dead. SAD. But no, the scene kept going on with him just being a nice teen and helping his mom out for dinner and then he dies too! :( I was like shiiiiiit.
The things that i didn’t like about the movie; 1- Sam’s acting was not it and i wish Tara was the main girl. 2- There was no character development, it felt really rushed. 3- I wish there was at least one chase scene. Killing scenes happened too fast. 4- Trailer showed too much. Vince, Chad, Amber’s burning (Sidney’s hair was also shown), Gale’s mourn (everyone knew that was about Dewey) and they showed too much about opening scene. 5- After Amber revealed herself, suddenly Mindy disappeared and came back at the end of the movie. 6- Chad and Tara literally stabbed to death so many times and survived somehow. 7- When Richie and Sam were fighting to death at the entrance, Gale and Sidney were literally in the kitchen. Amber was already burnt so did they just chit-chatted about weather or something? The list goes on.. I still enjoyed the movie tho.
The original cast were EXTREMELY too sidelined. I felt very cheated by how little they were in it, just to lure us. I got no real closure on those 3, and that is what I was hoping for. (If it’s true that they are leaving them behind, then we deserved it.) Im holding out hope that we might get it in the next one, but I’m afraid they are just going to completely abandon them now. And that’s such a disservice. So disappointed. Why leave them out so much? If it was to give us time to fall in love with the new characters, then that failed. Because although I thought several of the new ones did a good job, I just don’t care about them. I have no interest in where their story goes from here. So extremely sad. I really hope this isn’t the end of the line for me, but it just feels like it is. 😞 Too many characters, trying to cram too much into the time allowed left me not caring about the new cast and cast just wanting more of Sidney and Gale.
Yeah Chad and his sister made it just to make up for all the black characters killed in past Horror movies. While I doubt any Scream fan would choose Dewey to die over Chad. So Chad could get Dewey’s “hey look, he made it!” ending. Mindy not only black but a lesbian also meant she was definitely safe. I mean it just made it more predictable. Like it was the CW’s version of Scream.
Agree 100%. I didn't become invested in any of the new characters. There were just too many of them, and honestly, they didn't have much charisma. I feel like I'm done with the franchise. When I'm in my Scream mood, I'll just put on one of the original four movies.
I agree to a certain extent, the new characters were good but they promoted the movie as if the ogs were a huge part of the movie but that was my only gripe. I love this movie
This was my thoughts on Scream 2022 when I left the movie theather Thursday. The pros, mix and cons Positives: - It has its own identity (I was afraid it would turn out being too similar Scream 4, with this whole "woodsborow massacre" again) [EXCELENT] - Lots of Easter Eggs (classic old themes of the franchise, classic characters like Marta, Randy's cousin and maybe the mention to "Mark" Kincaid?, and so much more) [EXCELENT] - Bold (it killed Judy, Wes, Dewey), Tara survives [EXCELENT] - It made me care for the characters [EXCELENT] - Lots of gore (many stabs in "chilling" places like neck and mouth) [GOOD] - Interection between Sidney and Gale (I LOVED the scene where Gale recgonizes and feeling bad that her books may have created this whole massacres throught the entire franchise) [EXCELENT] - Sidney (and Gale kinda) are more pro-active and less passives like in Scream 4, they have a goal and they work on it [EXCELENT] - A the story overall is good [EXCELENT] - Ghostface is more active in the first half of this film than in any other movie before, with lots of kills and attempts of kill [EXCELENT] - The criticizism of toxic fandom was really nice to be play out here [GOOD] Mix: - It's not a Sidney Prescott's story (I would image this day would come on day: the day that franchise would pass the torch to a new group of protagonists. I understand the reason but I'm so fan of Sidney..) - Nice comment on how some people thinks modern horror movies feels more important and better due to their critiscism of social tackles than the classics "simplistic" older slashers movies (I'm not knowing how to explain my point in english) BUT this comentary only happens just once at the opening scene - The killers motifs (the last STAB movie being bad and outraged fans) were tackled too quick during the movie, what made it a little bit silly (intentionally or not, I didn't get it) - Billy's ghost. It was a little bit weird but I liked seeing Billy somehow again. I thought it was Melissa's character imagination, not Billy's ghost tho - The justification for the killing spree is good, the whole "requel" thing is a good comentary on (horror) movies trend that's going on but I was brought up by Mindy out of nowhere at the beggining of the movie and never brought up again during the rest of the movie until the Ritchie and Amber speech as they explain their motives. And weird how Mindy came at that conclusion too fast, too precisely and end it up being 100% right. If she was the killer, it would be all right, tho Negatives: The major one: The third act in general 1- The review of the first killer was too sudden and quick [REALLY REALLY BAD] 2 - For the most of time I didn't think Sidney or Gale would die, especially because they already had killed Dewey before [BAD] 3 - I liked and believed in the "innocent character Ritchie". I was cheering for him doesn't turn out to be the killer, what ended up happening [KINDA BAD] 4- It had no chase scene at all during the whole movie or tension scenes during the third act like in [REALLY REALLY BAD] Sid's scene with ghostface in Stu's house in Scream 1 Sid and Halley's car scene and Gale and Dewey's scene at the university in Scream 2 The every scene in John Milton's mansion in Scream 3 The scenes in Kirby's house in Scream 4 -Amber was the one character I even forget about it befere she revealing she was the killer. I actually remebered her name was Amber way after the movie was over [LITTLE BAD (it was my fault)] - The injuries from stabs and guns in this movies so not lethal. Sidney, Chad, Tara, Gale, Mindy all suffred a lot of injuries, specially Tara and Chad and they all managed to survive. It felt cheap by the end of the movie [KINDA BAD] - The least emblematic killers considering motifs, on-screen appearence, relevance and psycho interpretation [REALLY BAD] - The killers might be considered too obvious [REALLY BAD/KINDA BAD] - I didn't want to Judy to be killed off (so fast) [LITTLE BAD] In conclusion every movie from 1-4 felt they nailed at the third act so the end of the movie ended up in a high note. I liked Scream (2022) but the whole third was was really not so good as the beggining and the middle of the movie. This drops my ratings on it by a considerate much. I defenitly think Scream 1 and Scream 2 are better than Scream (2022)
@@aaronmckee1698 Yeah. They could have made some chase scenes with Tara, Wes or Mindy when they were attacked but not. The old "appears behind you, stab you, flee" again and again
@@danielcm4237 but why have a chase scene with an athletic looking Wes when we can watch him set the table and open cupboard doors instead? And each cupboard door he opens we can set up with a possible jump scare until we overplay it so much that when Ghostface is finally there no one cares anymore!
@@aaronmckee1698 That’s the point. Lol they literally exaggerate it on purpose to make fun of it, but idk I’ve seen a lot of people praise Wes and Judy’s death scene to be very tense. As well as Chad’s scene in which he DOES get chased.
I’m sad you felt this way. I think they perfectly handled legacy cast without undoing any of the previous movie arcs (if Sidney was more involved or affected by Sam being Billy’s daughter it would show she has never grown/moved on, which she clearly has) and I love the new cast more than any other new cast since the first (way better than Scream 4s cast, aside from Kirby). With or without Sid an led Gale I’m 100% there opening night again for a Scream 6, I would love to see the carpenter sisters journey forward, the Meek twins were absolutely 2 of my favorites and I’m glad they survived, and I love the idea of Sam being Billy’s daughter cause when she killed Richie… it can add a lot of complexity to any stories going forward because people will always be suspicious of her sanity cause she went CRAZY on Richie (Richie being my other standout favorite from the movie) Scream (1996) is still now and will probably forever be my favorite movie. And as much as Scream 2 was an amazing sequel, Scream (2022) is my second favorite installment and excites me by doing what Scream 4 said it would do, and set up a world where Ghostface can reign and we don’t NEED the legacy cast to rely on. RIP Dewey 😭 that It’s an honor line HURTTTT.
honestly knowing this was the final movie with Dewey, they handled it so well. He had many great lines and went out like a hero. Bonus points for giving us one of the most badass Ghostface shot in the franchise
The movie is Awesome but yes not perfect either I wish there was more cheesy chase scenes or creative deaths also the killers were the most random/worst killers like Amber was hardly in it at all until the end.
Man! Am I relieved to hear your review! I’ve been feeling like maybe I’m the only one who was disappointed, especially because of how they handled the original trio. Dewey an alcoholic?!! BS. I don’t believe Dewey would even after breaking up with Gale. Also, making Sidney a mom and married to Mark is such a cop out.
Ok I totally agree with the no significant motive! I was like uhhh…interesting…when Amber was revealed to be the killer I was like oh her? She’s had 5 ish minutes of screen time 🤣
@@billyjoemasterclass605 In all honesty.... Mickey had several scenes cut out on the final film.... Also neither were doing "evil faces".... That gave it away in the first scene
I loved the movie. However the points you made are so valid. The only death that impacted me was Dewey's.. don't know if it was just me but I teared up a little in the theaters seeing Gale's anguish. I also loved in that scene you actually have Ghostface speak instead of hearing it over the phone.
I cried a little when Dewey died not gonna lie, i always said that if they wanna kill one of the trio it's should be Dewey cause i love Sidney and Gale more . But when it actually happened i got really sad and cried.
@@Azelkiel56 I did too, theyve all been through horrific trauma but it was so heartbreaking seeing him die like that and seeing how distraught Gale was. When ghostface said ''it's an honor" chills went through my spine.
Please That Dewey scene, was impactful! UNTIL the killer reveal! That tiny twig girl could never have lasted that long to be able to finish him off. Please. One punch and she would have been done! But no, she was going toe to toe, for a minute, with a grown ass man... after that reveal it made that whole scene and his death a joke! Sure...
I feel like there was a missed opportunity between Sam and Sid. Sidney is great at reading people and I wish she would have recognized that Sam was struggling with being the daughter of a serial killer. When Sam asked Sidney and Gail at the end if she was going to be ok, I would have melted if Sidney would have said something along the lines of Billy not being pure evil and maybe if he had gotten professional help to deal with his anger/abandonment issues that none of this would have ever happened. Seeing a vulnerable Sidney speaks about Billy’s good side to give Sam hope would be such a raw moment
Maybe Sidney could have said something like: I see old Billy in you, the protective, caring Billy Also I was expecting Sidney to be more shocked by the fact that Billy had a daughter. And she could have mentiond Roman atleast once.
They should have just let Kevin Williamson write the movie. I think it wasn't bad at all but it also wasn't good in some parts where it had to deliver. Dewey's death was the most important thing they had to get right but they were lazy and made him die because of a stupid decision and bad luck. The killers were obvious which wasn't really a problem for me, however their motive wasn't really something new. I think the motive should have had a connection to Sam's secret to add more meaning to the Billy Loomis twist and its role in the story. At first I thought Sam is targeted because her father is Billy and the killer is related to a victim in the past that was killed by her father. I know we had the revenge motive already in Scream 2 but the relative of a victim attacking the child of a killer to get revenge would have been a new and fresh idea for the franchise in my opinion.
I can't believe I made my wife rewatch the entire movie series to prep for this one and it was such a let down. I mean, how could one very small and thin amber could have taken on Sid and Gale head on. Took on a football player and took on dewey. Amber magically becomes taller and stronger when wearing the ghost face mask.
I really liked it but I do agree that they didn’t make me care about the characters AT ALL. I really only rooted for Tara to live. At the end when we find out the twins lived I was kinda just like oh ok I guess. I think Tara would have made a much better final girl. The only thing special about Sam was that she was billys daughter.
While I agree with you about the sidelining of the trio, and the motive did fall a little flat (as it did in Scream 4). I don't think it is possible, as long time fans of scream, to relate as hard to any of the new characters as we did to the original line up. An attempt to match would require the late and great Wes Craven and sadly we just didn't have that.
@Mr.Masters. I was a bit disappointed tbh, while there was stuff I did like in Scream (22) overall I left feeling bittersweet and was thinking “was that it”. I personally wanted something different from the franchise but what we got was more of a tribute.
@@nu-metalfan2654 exactly they brought stus house and all the victims family members back just the motive to be a bunch of stab fans ? Like what that was a hudge wasted potential
I'm definitely going to watch it again. For me, Gale was the star. It felt like a return to Scream 1 and 2 Gale, absolute badass. There should definitely have been more than one Gale/Dewey scene. I think Sidney barely being in it kinda goes with the whole 'I'm bored' line when she was on the phone. You know in life when you're so experienced with something and have moved on, you just don't give a sh** anymore. Judy. I wish Judy hadn't died. I wish she'd had more scenes. I liked Wes, Amber was obvious from the beginning, Liv & Chad were cannon fodder, Mindy has potential, but I wasn't keen on Tara/Sam, I didn't feel much of a dynamic between the two.
I called amber being the killer as well. I found her overprotective -ness at the beginning to be very performative. I was like yep. It’s this bitch lol
Yeah I'm glad you guys liked it. It does feel more like scream 1. Where purpose of movie to requel the first one like randy niece said in film. Like the force awakens and terminator dark fate/genisys
yes, exactly! 😭 That was some bs what they did him. This Ghostface was more scarier and more intimidating then the past ones. Ghostface is the one that actually made this film what it was. The characters were one of the issues for me. How are they gonna push all these new characters just for them to only have a little screentime and be killed off just like that?
Nope, more gory yes. Terrifying? Naw. No chase scenes, no tension, he appears and boom. And the fact 1 of the killers was that tiny waif skinny girl... lmao. suree... terrifying!
@@bronzemuseum504 It wasnt awesome! Bad writing.. The cops wouldnt have taken that long to arrive AT THE SHERIFFS HOUSE IN THAT TINY ASS TOWN! Please! The opening the doors and the music and closing it to make us think the killer was behind it... please! No chase scenes, nothing... bad writing!
I think the biggest problem I found with the side characters in this movie is that it didn’t feel that their scenes taught us that much about them that wasn’t in relation to “who’s the killer”. Every conversation (outside the prominent figures) was about the murders. Whereas in Scream 1, there was that, but there was more depth. It never felt like it was pandering to the audience.
Appreciate that you actually posted an honest and authentic review. I agree with everything. Although I liked the brutal Ghostface, did anyone notice there were no chase scenes? Ghostface just popped up and killed instantly for every death scene, it was more like Jason than Ghostface. Also, I was shocked at how little screen time Neve had- as well as the insignificance of Stu's house. The new 'final girl' was definitely not on par with Neve Campbell, just felt like a superficial replacement. And the killer's motive was ridiculous. Still better than Scream 4 though.
@Ab Parry. Yeah completely agree that it’s at least better than Scream 4, but the directors and writers had so much to work with, instead it just felt safe (apart from Dewey’s death, which one of the original 3 needed to die). When Richie and Amber were revealed as the killers I felt disappointed because they were both too obvious. There was so little screen time for Sidney. And yeah everyone was speculating about why Stu’s house is back only to not be that big of a deal. Also the movie went by fast. The only memorable scene was Dewey’s death The only word I can think of that describes Scream (22) for me is bittersweet.
@@abparry5159 Ghostface ran after him, no? Literally a chase 😂 Not saying the movie is chase heavy by any means but to say there was none is inaccurate.
@@chriscullen He ran about 3 meters towards a limping dude. In terms of the Scream movies that does not really constitute as a chase scene. You could then argue Wes had a chase scene because Ghostface 'ran' at him. Or Tara had a chase scene because she was crawling away.
SPOILERS: (Allow people to have their own opinions and be respectful before thinking of reading my review) For me.... Scream (2022) was on the same level as Scream 4.... totally disappointing. Scream (2022) felt like an extended episode of the Scream TV series. They didnt do anything new or fresh and regurgitated pretty much the same from every scream movie. The movie also relied too heavy on nastolgia bate and couldn't find its own grounding or originality. It was pretty much a copy and paste of the first movie. Also the fact that they had an un-experineced scrawny teenager that took on certain legacy characters with tons of experience in this field is an insult to scream fans. The twist was so predictable, the acting was very corny and the killers motives were probably the weakest in the franchise. Also too many people survived and everything just felt forced with the main characters. The only thing it had going for it, was the kills, especially Judy's death. It was quite emotional seeing her trying to save her son, but then getting savagely stabbed by Ritchie. I am never putting my faith into a Scream movie ever again. God knows why people are giving this a higher rating than the original.... come on now. I felt soo let down. 2/5
I’d give the movie a 5/10 myself. A lot bothered me, I can be nitpicky at times, but Scream is one of my all time favorite movies so what follows has a lot to live up to. Sidney had no reason to go back. If Dewey’s death was just to get her back to Woodsboro, then it’s a pointless one. She’s married with two young children. Her priorities are with them. He calls her and she doesn’t even know it’s him, meaning she doesn’t even have his contact info saved on her phone. But she goes back when he dies to put her life in danger and possibly leave her children motherless. It’s insane. Also, did they give Stu a sister? Vince is her son, his nephew, I think… it’s a quick one-line reveal I missed. And he just so happened to have a fling with a member of the friend group the summer prior. I like Kyle Gallner as Vince. He was a menacing presence but his character does nothing and could have been removed and not made a difference. Also, Kirby is alive somehow. There’s an Easter egg hidden in there, I believe. I get that Billy is a killer, but after seeing how adultery ended his parents’ marriage, would he be the kind to cheat? I wish they made Billy the older, father figure version he could’ve been rather than the killer version he was in Sam’s hallucinations. That also would’ve saved us from the de-aged CGI ghoul we got. And Chad. He suffers a gash to his leg I thought cut through an artery. It basically incapacitated him after two steps. But sitting out there for five hours without aid and he’s good. Mindy disappears after Amber shoots Liv. And they never mention her. She should’ve been the one to kill Amber IMO. A little justice served by Randy’s niece because he himself was never given the opportunity. Amber should’ve revealed herself in the basement walking up the steps behind Mindy by stabbing her in the back. Especially after their back and forth dialogue about being the killer. It would’ve impacted harder, I think.
You seem to have missed the part where Sydney tells Sam that you can’t out run it. She went back because she knew her family was in danger and the only way to save them was to kill whoever was doing this because she knew they would target her and her family next. It’s always revolved around Sydney so she really didn’t have a choice. Also being a celebrity as she is I’m sure it wouldn’t have been hard to find her address.
@@randallrohr623 she absolutely had a choice and it was absolutely the wrong choice. She’s not responsible for stopping every Ghostface killer, especially when she’s not even in Woodsboro. She’s not law enforcement, she’s a target and potential victim. She should keep her and her children safe from a very far distance. Her decision to leave her family behind to put herself in danger makes zero sense. I would love to see that conversation between her and her husband. I imagine he’d say something like, “This is insane. You have no family there. We’re all right here. The only thing Woodsboro has to offer is death. I think your friend has proven that. There’s nothing you can do but be another target for this asshole. If you leave us for this, we won’t be here when you get back. I won’t put our girls through this.” Or something like that
@@aaronmckee1698 Dude, look at Scream 3. She was basically in witness protection and the killer found her. There's no telling who could have tracked her down this time and she wasn't exactly living in secret so she could easily be discovered. Chances are, the killers could have tracked her down and why live with that burden over her head at if she were to just stay put? She needed to confront them and make sure they were gone because chances are, there likely won't be any other killers to do this yet a sixth time. Stop being stupid about this just because you felt there was no need for her to be in the story when she had every right to be in the story. She didn't even play a big role which shows her involvement is winding down now, so you can at least be satisfied with that. Also, Sidney went ALONE, she didn't bring her family with her so at least they would have been fine, even if she didn't make it out alive.
@@devontehuntley6274 Of course the killer found her in Scream 3. It’s called a script. Him finding her is necessary to the plot moving forward. That’s what they call plot convenience. But how did he find her? Even Kincaide couldn’t find her and he’s In law enforcement with unlimited resources. So how did Roman find her? How did he track down Maureen? They don’t tell you because they don’t know how he did it. They needed it to happen so they made it happen. It’s really that simple. He also just managed to track down the phone number of where she worked, there’s nothing to suggest he knew where she lived… Sidney had a right to be in the story, of course, but there’s no purpose for her to be there. She’s not related to anyone. She doesn’t live there. She has a family of her own to look after. Would you leave your wife and children behind to throw yourself in the middle of a killing spree? How would your wife feel about it? Sidney going to Woodsboro in this movie as it’s written makes her a bad wife and a terrible mother. As for her going to Woodsboro instead of waiting for killers to find her, that’s doing all the work for them. And if you think they’re trying to lure you out of hiding, that means they can’t find you and if you going to them is what they want to carry out their plan, maybe don’t go. But that’s me Also, No reason to name call. Relax.
@@aaronmckee1698 Excuse me, the script means nothing given we're talking about within the story, not how it had to be structured to play the movie out. You're not about to go there. The point is, Sidney was HIDING and was discovered. So why would she take the chance to just live her life full as day without a low profile when she was just told there was another killer on the loose doing the same crap? I'd be hunting them down too and given that she stopped like FIVE of them in the past beforehand, she's armed and capable. It's not about her being related to anyone, but she's a legacy character, the main survivor, the IT girl, the girl even her cousin tried to be as famous as, so she had some special purpose here. You're looking at this all the wrong way to just excuse her not being in the story and it's not going to work. Sidney came and did what she does best and now she can rest at night feeling as though it's finally over. She did better work than any police office or FBI agent ever could and that you can give her props for. Now sit down and stop being a clown about this you Sidney involvement HATER. I'm about to pull her out of the Scream world and come track you down. Would you have preferred if they brought the Woodsboro killer to HER area, that way she's not technically trying to get involved. WOULD THAT HAVE WORKED FOR YOU?
I’m glad I’m not the only fan who felt that this movie was deeply flawed. I felt bad reading everyone’s rave reviews when I felt that it was just ok. They set up so many great moments but ultimately those moments fell flat to me. Like squandered opportunities. There was a great movie there, it just never emerged.
I feel like it's only realistic for the legacy characters to be sidelined the way they were. No one's trying to kill Sidney anymore and if they were anymore involved than they were, this would've been silly. Dewey was the ONLY reason Gale and Sid even came back which makes sense, come on. This movie showed me that Scream can actually stand on it's feet without them and it shocked the shit out of me. As far as the new cast, the TWINS were money. Loved them. They will be classics. I do say this with respect, i just feel like you're holding on to the past films and not allowing this franchise to evolve. Sorry.
Nope! Wrong! The twins were annoying... especially the jock brother! Please psychos would love to take down Sidney.... It cant stand on its feet... the only reason fans were excited were because of the legacy characters, which didnt get enough to do in this... but you are young... and think ooh lets have some SJW on here! bye!
Sidney coming back so that they could kill her and blame it on Sam was all apart of the plan though.. So they were, in fact, trying to kill Sidney again lol.
I mean, it was an honour to claim Dewey’s life, so it’s not out of the question for the killer. My attention looks more at how Sidney is a mother now, and cared more for Jill than she did for Sam. Maybe it was a matter of trust, but that’s weak considering the theme of the movie practically blames Sidney and the success she’s created for the franchise. They really seemed to just cheese the cameos but otherwise I enjoyed it.
I was disappointed too. I wasn't expecting it to be as good without Wes craven. But since Willamson was involved I think it would hold up among the previous 4. It's hard to explain but I felt the other four had much more to say about horror, film industry etc and the 5th didn't had much to say.
Stu’s house could’ve been as iconic to this franchise as the Myers house is to the Halloween franchise. Imagine it 25 years after Billy and Stu’s massacre, stood in disrepair. Stu’s parents unwilling to sell it due to it being their family home with so many happy memories of Stu growing there as a child. They can no longer live there because of the pain of what happened there. Windows boarded, tired looking walls, overgrown lawn. It’s prominence grown by local lore over the years. The residents of Woodsboro want it torn down as it brings shame to their community. The people who live there have turned their back on what brought there town infamy after 2 bloody ghostface massacres in 15 years. One inspired by the other. The perfect stage for a final showdown. Add Stu to the mix, but have him NOT be ghostface. Released from prison/medical facility after serving 25 years would make one hell of a movie IMO.
I really really wanted to love this movie and finally saw it, left feeling like hey that was fun? (first Scream I got to see in a theater) but the more I dwell on everything I just feel like it was disappointing and couldve been so much better. I watched the others leading up to the release and they were wayyyy better with pacing, characters, and suspense. I don't know if it's just me having a connection to the movies from childhood making me more biased but even 4 was way more solid and fun of a film compared to 5. And seeing everyone rave saying this is perfect amazing and the best sequel but I'm not even inclined to go back for a rewatch in theaters because of how meh it ended up being.
Honestly, I don’t get why people dont like the motives in 4 and 5 .. I think as far as a motive for the killers, they are the best ones, because they the meta social commentary that is specific for the times.. 4 - the rise of the influencer era, 5 - the toxic and never satisfied fandom .. I’m surprised people find this the weaker part pf the movies, whereas I love how creative they were with it.. the only thing I didn’t like about the movie was the lack of personality in Sydney.. I love Neve but it felt she was there for a paycheck, maybe it was the writing, but sooo much could have been done with her character even with a smaller screen time.. also I think it would have been better if they killed off Sam and it turned out that Tara becomes the main girl for future installments.. because Jenna is a much better actress than Melissa and I think she can carry the franchise and have a great development
It was basically SCREAM 4!!! I thought scream 4 was wayy better it just came out two years too early for the times. The scenes with billy showing up was such a WTF!!?? It was like a netflix series made into a film.
I was thinking it was impossible to do worst than Scream 4 and then, Scream 2022! No chase scenes, except Chad's small one. Most of them opened a door or closed a door, get stabbed, died. No character development. A terrible new final girl. Bad acting. No humor. Dumb motives. No atmosphere. Bad decor (Tara's house from the outside... Oh God!). Terrible opening scene. A very melodramatic vibe for the first part of the movie. And the cherry on the top: useless Billy's apparition. Poor Wes, poor us... real fans
Billy's motivation was based on thé consequences of his father having An affair, and now they Tell us he was cheating himself? It just doesn't make sense
Well to be fair (not saying he was justified but to make some sense of why he cheated) Sid was holding out on him after her mother died, I’m guessing it’s possible the cheating happened after the killing of Maureen Prescott and Sidney couldn’t have sex with Billy at that time so Billy cheated
@@ChevonJBenzo valid Point. Or maybe he did it to show his contempt for Sidney. But still, it would have worked better if they had given more background, as it is a stretch from thé Billy we knew
Loved the movie and everything about it. If I had to point out some cons for me, I'd say the pacing towards the third act was too fast. I feel they could've added more before act 3. I also feel they could've developed other characters more. Such as Liv and Vince. We didn't see too much of them and it's obvious they had history. Vince was killed too quick and Liv didn't really give me what I needed to click with her before her death. The killer reveal wasn't a big letdown for me. I just felt it was kinda predictable. It was obvious Ritchie was gonna be the killer, but the other killer I thought it'd be Mindy, Chad, Tara or even Liv and Amber. Low and behold, it's Amber. Wish I could've seen more of Sidney and Gale, but I understand why they were pushed to the side a bit. Gives room for the new character and their stories. Overall, besides those cons, there's many pros that make the movie spectacular imo.
I can just about agree with everything you said. To me Scream 4 was the perfect setup to “pass the torch” and had Wes Craven not passed away that probably would have happened. That cast was way more interesting than this one. Personally I felt like the casting of Sam was not good, like, at all. The performance for Sam came off very soap-opera-y where it was so over acted that it made what should have been impacting scenes almost comedic. Perhaps if Jenna Ortega instead had portrayed Sam instead of Tara this may have changed things for the better because she seemed to understand the tone of this world better. I too have issue with the motivation of the killers. Coming off of Jill’s motivations for Scream 4 (which I still think was so ahead of it’s time it’s not even funny) I found Scream 5’s to be a bit of a let down. Crazy fans wanting to “reset” the franchise just doesn’t have the same impact and more importantly has just about zero connection to Sidney since ultimately their issue is with the Stab franchise and not actually the occurrences of Woodsboro so like, who cares? There was essentially nothing at stake for going in this direction. I personally wanted Sam to be Sidney’s daughter too which would have given us that connection making Sam’s decision of what path to take all the more conflicting. I mean they don’t even mention her mom so we just have to accept Billy hooked up with some random person and here’s the daughter we haven’t heard about like ever. Even in Scream 4 Sam would have been in the area right but no one is aware he has a daughter growing up in Woodsboro? They could have at least made Jack Quaids character Stu’s son, then this would have brought things full circle and given some connection to Sidney for him wanting to avenge Stu’s death. There just seemed to be a lot of missed opportunities where even though there was reference to the past, none of those connections seem to actually matter or lead to anything when the actual killers just ended up being random fans of Stab. Again, who cares? And the extra Stab scenes shown with the “Randy” character, like why? Totally generic. Mickey being a super-fan of film had a much more interesting motive than this in Scream 2. One of the killers at least should have had some direct connection to Sidney which at least would have strengthened the motive. Though I agree this one was a bit more brutal technically (which isn’t really necessary for a Scream film but whatever) I actually think this was Ghostface’s worst representation in terms of his abilities because it seemed like every two seconds he was getting his butt kicked and people were surviving left and right. Especially in the first scene, I just felt like “Omg this Ghostface kind sucks look at this character fighting him off.” And this happened several times. One may argue “Well these killers being fans they may just be crappy at actually killing people” but it’s not like any other killers of the past were professional or anything. In fact all of the past killers except maybe Billy’s mom were fans of horror too and they had a relentless nature to them. I mean look at Charlie’s Olivia kill in 4, Mrs. Loomis’ Randy kill or freakin Roman’s Jennifer kill in 3…all of these were relentless that made you know Ghostface meant business and wasn’t playing. The Ghostface kills in 5 though violent yes, weren’t nearly as clever or creepy because he was so bad at it. And to think Dewey had survived all these past killers and dies at the hands of this crappy killing Ghostface seemed such a disservice to this character that we loved and deserved better. That he died was expected but at the hands of such a sloppy Ghostface was more cringey. I did enjoy this film too and I felt the tone was on the right track but it really fell victim to Exactly the commentary that is covered in the opening of Scream 4 where they talk about the repetitive impact of meta, there being no element of surprise, you don’t care about the characters because there’s no development etc. Scream 5 pretty much fell into all of these issues in my opinion.
I found that the kills were a bit lack lustre. Like Vince’s death was a quick jab to the neck and he was down. Wes was stabbed through the neck as well but slowly, there was no real chance scenes except Tara’s and the male twin, the killer reveals weren’t good. I wanted the mask to be torn off revealing the killer not them basically saying ‘I’m the killer’ look it was a good movie and I loved it but it had a lot of flaws. I just wish Wes was used better aside from the nice friend that dies after showering. Judy Shouldn’t have been killed off either considering there’s now no cop at all in the series (unless you count Mark who is Syd’s husband?) I just feel like they missed the mark (pun not intended) with this one. It just felt like maybe poor writing let it down? I loved the plot and how it brings in new final girls Tara and Sam but they needed to give Gale and syd more time on screen. Even a funeral scene for Dewey and have someone at the funeral get a text saying ‘do you think it’s over?’ Like we needed more than what we got idk I’m just rambling now
I actually had a theory that the killer could've been related to Casey Becker from the original film and blamed the popularity of the Stab Movies and their fans in Woodsboro for the killings that have happened since the original bloodbath. Therefore I thought the killer would commit their own bloodbath to try and taint Hollywood and the fans of the Stab franchise.
Thank you for this video. Your final statement about how you were surprised to see/read all the favorable reviews is exactly my sentiment. I was not pleased with the movie at all. As you mentioned, Sidney, Gale, and Dewey could have not been in the movie and it would have been the exact same.
The line from Wes Craven about wanting to build the new characters around the legacy characters is the second main thing that this movie disrespected him. The other thing being remedied apparently by something that I didn't see. There was an interview with a survivor named Kirby mentioned. Had Scream 4 lead into a new trilogy, Craven definitely wanted Kirby to come back. At the same time, I really enjoyed the movie and where it made me cry, I respected the fact that they had the balls to kill off Dewey after they made him look like he was about to do something majorly badass.
Kirby did survive the events of Scream 4. There was a "blink and you'll miss it" moment where stab 8 was being played on TH-cam in the film and the next thumbnail is an interview with Kirby Reed
@@MetalMadness_00 true .. but they were trying to redo what billy and Stu did .. so at the end of the movie Jenna took the spot as Sidney’s dad in the first scream
My favorite part: Basic Instinct vibes with Sam stabbing. I actually enjoyed watching that moment a lot! After a very dry and almost reluctant acting job by Barrera, she finally let go and came out of her shell. That might have been the intention from the beginning. Worst part: I found myself impatiently waiting for Neve Campbell to show up most of the film. This is who I came to see. I agree the trio was sidelined. As much as I didn't enjoy that, I feel that was necessary though, if the film makers intentions was to move on. But then again, why do they have too? Do they propose Sam will be the new Sidney and save the day? The only draw for the next film for me would be to see how they pull that off. Best scene: the opener! I was really drawn into Ortega and I believed what was happening and it was tense. She did an amazing performance through the whole movie I thought. Good stuff: the emotion in this movie. There hasn't really been any throughout the series. Deaths: I didn't care about anyone except Ortega and the trio. I want those feelings back I got when these were killed- Casey, Tatum, Hallie, Jennifer, Kirby. The surprise and the sadness.
Personally, one of my favorite Scream films, but the lead actresses acting seemed incredibly dry. Originally thought she was intentionally emotionless when the news of her sister being attacked was unveiled as a hint to her being killer. Nope, just poor acting or direction.
hopefully if she returns Sam will be more like towards the end of the movie where she accepts being Billy's daughter. Im not sure if it will make her more interesting than Tara but at least it should be better
Honestly I fucking looove scream. Love all the films. Love seeing ghost face on the screen. The ONLY thing i HATED about this film was it did NO JUSTICE for the OG characters. They were on the screen for like a total of 15 fucking minutes. I wish they would have made a better way to end the OG characters story.
I would give it a much higher score myself but I do agree with most of your points. I think they should've shrunk the new cast or left the original cast (at least Sidney and Gale) out completely in order to leave time to develop the new characters more. For me, it's not the original cast that keeps me watching Scream movies, it's Ghostface. By now I just wanted to see Sidney happy already and watch Ghostface take on some new people for a change. I liked Tara the most, followed by Sam (mainly for her potential as an antiheroine in future sequels) and I liked Mindy well enough. But the others were severely underdeveloped in this one, much like the new characters in previous sequels. My only hope with that is that they left so many of these characters alive in order to make a Scream 6 where they'll get more development. As for the commentary and motives: I strongly enjoyed the toxic fandom commentary. Being a part of the star wars fandom, I could honestly see some psycho go to extreme lengths to get a 'better' movie they think they're entitled to. BUT I do think the trailer was misleading and made me think of a potentially better motive. I honestly thought someone (possibly a surprise Randy who didn't really die) was going to kill people linked to previous killers so that another Ghostface would never happen again. I was looking forward to seeing how all of the new cast was related to previous killers and I didn't really get that, and you're right, the killings seemed kinda random (especially Vince). I also realized Sam wasn't in any real danger pretty early on since the plan was to frame her as the killer. I would've liked it better if someone wanted to kill her because of a belief she'd turn out just like her father. Her acting did fall a little flat for me for the most part, but her going full Billy at the end made me excited for her future potential. I just wish I'd seen her take on more of his expressions, mannerisms, etc so the relation was more obvious and interesting throughout the movie and not just at the end.
I love the movie, but I am bothered that they have made "there are always two Killers" cannon. Because 3 only had one.... Unless you are a fan of thinking that Angelina was the second killer but was killed/betrayed by Roman..
Not to mention Roman, Sidney’s brother, is the TRUE ORIGINAL Ghostface who started all this by corrupting Billy into being a killer in the first place. Scream 3 I would say was just a way to wrap up Sidney’s story arc with her coming to grips with her mother being dead due to Roman and Billy. She killed both of them and avenged her mother. That film really stood out. Scream 5 just felt basic and brutal, but that’s it. I didn’t like the motivation in this one. It wasn’t bad, but it doesn’t hold up compared to the first 4 scream films. This new generation lacks the personal motivation behind their actions. It seems like this film was made just for a cash grab for the next generation for shits and giggles. That’s weak in my opinion!
Same. This movie didn’t feel like it was related to Scream 1-4 at all, like a completely different universe. Sams acting was baffling. I’ve never been completely taken out of a movie from such bad acting before. No memorable set locations. Just all around disappointed. I was gutted walking out of that theatre. I also didn’t feel like I was there, I felt like I was in EVERYBODYS FACE the whole damn movie. What the hell were they thinking? Also..Billy?? Decent idea but absolutely terrible execution. He looked weird as hell and everything he said in the hallucinations was just cringe... Tara, Mindy, Chad, and Liv were enjoyable. But like I said, Sam ruined most of the movie for me... The kills were good. GF was quick and violent. That’s about it for me. I would honestly be totally fine if I never saw it again. It wasn’t as big of a disappointment as Halloween kills... but it’s close.
@@austin-tyler5229 Stus house was there for the sake of being there. And personally, I couldn’t even tell it was stus house because the entire movie was one massive closeup
@@davidallenconnects Yea I’m definitely not an expert either and I’ve literally never complained about terrible acting until Halloween Kills and Scream 5.
I feel like the legacy cast definitely wasn't used enough.. Gale and Sydney felt rushed and I'm sorry the performances did NOT fall into their characters. I also felt like there was a huge lack of character development.
They gave away too much in the trailer. The movie was actually made with Stu‘s house being a big REVEAL… But instead, they told the audience beforehand, 100 times, by even including a “come stay at the scream House“ PR campaign…
I respect your opinion but I really liked the new cast and how they were handled. You compared this to Halloween, but I feel like that doesn't hold up. Michael is basically supernatural, and obsessed with killing Laurie. With Scream, for the franchise to continue to focus on the legacy cast they'd have to keep coming up with new reasons for new psychos to don the Ghostface costume and go after Sidney forever. It's just not sustainable for making more movies. I'd like a new trilogy following Sam and Tara, with Sidney and Gale popping in every now and then but not being so involved.
@@lalareal180 Repetitive crime intoxication. Anyone who lives in a place like Woodsbro with a killer legacy. They know they may lost their lives and their friends and mostly they would be helpless. Similar to media intoxication, this impact people to be less emotive and reactive. An extreme example in this movie, I would argue is Liv. Because while the rest of the others are ready to take precautions and embraces the fact that they too are under doubt(respecting other's doubt on them), Liv couldn't just stand her boyfriend and friends taking precautions on her. That was a stupid mindset in such a deadly situation. But guess what, even such a response is not impossible in some scenarios
Everyone needs to re analyze Dewey's death scene. He's attacked in the hospital where there's access to blood , operating rooms and doctors. We see a deputy who is killed. There's an ambulance and coroner van outside. We don't see who's in the body bag. We don't see the name on the body bag tag. When Sydney arrives Gale is still in the hospital after Dewey's "Death" They never actually say Dewey' dead. Judy dies which now leaves no sheriff and I'm pretty sure Radio silence would expect a backlash killing a legacy cast member. They always keep us on edge when it comes to Dewey and at the end Sam asks Gale how's she's doing Gale responds, "Ask me in a couple of days." Also if they kill a legacy cast member I think they would of at least gave Dewey a memorial service
You’re so right. Even if David says Dewey is dead he could be lying to not spoil anything. It would be a clever way. I also did think that it was not 100 percent clear that he’s dead. And I am kind of sure they did this on purpose.
Let’s be real- a lot of the disappointment is due to the fact that movies get over exposed on the internet nowadays. Would have worked in 2010 or something.
The writing let this down. From many characters hardly being in this,before they were killed,not killed or revealed as a killer. While the other killer was so predictable, because the writer's gave way too many clues. A main characters backstory,and a cameo appearance surrounding it,was the best aspect of this. Overall a missed opportunity.
Spoilers for the movie! Finally, an honest review. All the other reviews just seemed like they were lying to make the movie money, like with "scariest movie in the franchise" and "almost better then the original". For me it didn't feel like a Scream movie, it was way to fast, they threw away a lot of the characters for the sake of nothing at all. The main 3 came in way to last. Dewey's death was left for nothing with only 2 scenes of Gale being sad, Sidney not even showing an expression, and Gale moving on just too fast. I couldn't feel any emotion because of that, and the way he died. I appreciate the Wes stuff, but don't bring back Judy and give her a son to just kill them off for a 5 second banner, they could have named Wes something else and named someone else that, or they could have just not given Judy a son. (Did Wes want to be killed in a movie or something? I get he was a horror director but I don't think he would like to die in a movie.) I really liked Sam and Tara though, I feel like they took away the movie. With Sam I feel like the whole movie it was getting to the point of her murdering someone. I really think she might go to the killer side in Scream 6. Tara was amazing, I don't have much to say about her right now except I loved her relationship with Sam. To many references. References took away from scenes we could have got in my opinion. We keep seeing Richie watching Netflix and TH-cam when those scenes could have been switched with other characters. There's no horror in this movie, except for the opening scene. For me the whole movie was full of references and dumb comedy that wasn't funny. Even Wes's scene was more funny then scary. Or more sad. Not even the 3rd act was scary. That's all I can say, good honest review though.
The end was too generous with survivors. It was like Oprah was saying “you get to survive! and you get to survive!” When we only cared if Sidney, Dewey, Gale, Tara and Sam survived. Dewey of course didn’t since the trailers made it obvious he wouldn’t.
well if they wanna continue to make movies they need a cast to set the foundation? Sam, Tara, Chad, and Mindy are 4 they can use without needing to rely on Sid or Gale. Scream 1 had 4 survivors as well so I don’t see how it’s “too many”
I just saw the movie in the theater. A lot of mixed feelings but I don't want to comment or review it just yet. One thing I will say and which I'm very sad about is that there isn't a single chase scene. Like a good Helen Shivers from IKWYDLS or Casey from the original. I really wanted atlest one intense long chase scene.
Victim is basically dead before they even know Ghostface is there in this one. Wes showed what you can do with a chase scene in a single room with Tatum in the garage and make it exciting. There’s none of that in this movie, which is so bizarre because Ready Or Not is basically one giant chase scene…
Scream 3 is definitely better than 4. Without Roman’s Ghostface there’s no Ghostface or Scream movies. He don’t get enough credit. Jill’s motivation for fame was stupid. Not to mention roman is Sidney’s brother and he’s the one who corrupted Billy into becoming a killer in the first place. Gave him advice and taught him how to be a skilled killer. Let’s put respect on the man’s name for his charisma. The guy was a one man army in the third film too. He’s the only who did it solo.
@@cainbutler6291 Jill's motivation was not stupid and it was completely prescient and relevant to even today, and it was a lot more believable than the retcon to make Roman the mastermind which was just completely silly.
I thought Scream 2022 was decent, but I had many of the same issues you pointed out. For me, it had sort of the opposite problem of Scream 4. In the 4th one, I thought the first two thirds of the movie were kind of so/so, but the third act and killer reveal really saved the movie from being forgettable. Scream 5, on the other hand, was relatively strong up until the end, but the killers and their motive kind of ruined it. It wasn't the motive per se, but more that it seemed disconnected with the Ghostface we had seen (and heard on the phone) up to that point. The killings seemed angry and personal, so I had a hard time buying that the killers actually had no beef with the victims and just wanted to create source material for a new Stab movie. I also agree about most of the supporting characters being underdeveloped, and I was bummed that Gale and Dewey didn't have more scenes together. I thought Judy and Wes really sold the mother-son dynamic for the few scenes they had, but pretty much everyone other than Sam and Tara was forgettable. I hope they come out with an extended cut that has more character development for the supporting characters.
This movie was hands down the worst of the series. The music was odd, the characters weren’t interesting, the story was too convoluted, had ridiculous CGI, the killers had weak motivation, the short and tall heights of the revealed killers made no sense, and the actors all blended together and you didn’t really care about them, and the suspense was severely lacking. Sam wasn’t a great main character either. Don’t agree? Watch the first one and then watch this one again back to back. The feeling is just totally different. It’s bad. Really bad. Dare I say…Disrespectfully bad.
I agree with you. Wasn’t bad but could have been sooo much better. The potential was there. My biggest gripes with it were the characters, the killers motive, and and the lack of screen time by the OG cast. I literally didn’t care about any of the new characters other than tara. Jenna Ortega was brilliant in the movie. As for the motive, it felt lazy. I would have much preferred that the lead was not related to billy and that the killer was instead related to billy. This person learned about what happened to billy, is obviously crazy as well. Then have Tara and Sam related to Sidney somehow. That way, the motive is for the killer to get sid, tara, and Sam all back at the original house and to finish what billy couldn’t. The whole we thought these movie endings sucked so we want to write a better one was just a lame excuse to kill. Also not having the OG cast in it more was a sad. I felt misled there for sure. Having Tara be attacked in the beginning (and if they went with the arch that her and Sam are related to Sid) then Sidney obviously would have shown up earlier in the film and had a chance to actually have scenes with Dewey. Again I enjoyed the movie but it left me with a lot of “I wish they did this instead”
I loved it! Only complaint is the teenagers ages were really inconsistent… Some actually looked like realistic 17/18-year-olds and others looked clearly 25… If you are going to cast older people as teenagers they need to all be older or cast all younger people because it was confusing and they didn’t all look to be in the same grade. But I honestly really enjoy this film, it was exciting, impactful, loved the callbacks and the ghostface reveals surprised me. I very much think it lived up to the first couple films.
I completely agree with all your points. I felt off when the credits started to roll. Another complaint I have is WHERE WERE THE CHASE SCENES?!?! For me, this felt more like a Scream fan-film than an actual Scream sequel. The Easter eggs were great, but everything else was lackluster in my opinion.
Great critique. You nailed it. The characters/actors in the new film are terrible. I recently watched the MTV series Scream. This is where they pulled these characters from. Vapid, vain, narcissistic characters that don't appear disturbed, sad, or shocked by the deaths around them. They are more concerned with the petty issues in their lives. They are more concerned about their appearance and having toxic relationships. WTF? There is an episode where the male characters put a drunk, passed-out partygoer on a boat and stick him in the middle of the lake, late at night. Forget the killer, what if he rolled over and tipped the boat? No one cares. Considering the killer, why would these kids do that when there is a killer on the loose? Several people have already been killed up to this point, These characters, on TV and in the new Scream 2022 are Unlikable people. Like the Walking Dead, they killed off all the great, interesting characters for boring, lifeless characters we don't like. It's all about gender and race than writing interesting, 3-dimensional, complex characters that we care about. The writers pretend that having a lesbian character is good enough and having any depth is not important. What's important is will she overcome the bias of other school kids? Will she find true love in a biased world? Yes- in 2022, it appears that homophobic behavior is rampant in schools and society. This show is out of touch with reality. Lesbian characters are fine- but give us more to the character. After 6 episodes I gave up. I didn't care about these horrible people. They should be getting together to discuss how they are going to stop the killer. No. It's as if the killings are a natural part of life so they deal with it with a shrug like everything else. Hollywood: Write good characters. Write a good, original story. In fact, approach the new script like this: If it's been done in the previous films: don't put it in your script. Avoid cliches, and don't remake the original and disguise it as something new. Make something new. You've had 10 years since the last film to get it right. How about leaving clues, making it look like Sindey and Gail are the killers, Have the killer show himself to Dewey. The killer leaves and Dewey writes the Letters S... and I... in the blood pooling around his body. This creates suspicion and has people's minds reeling. Was it S I dney? Did she finally crack? Is Gail helping her? What's her motive? She has lost her audience. A new book will make her famous again. Is this a red herring, or are they the culprits? How about someone kills the killer at the end of the 2nd act? The following day, when everyone is feeling safe, the one who killed the killer is killed, and people realize there are more than two killers, or someone was mistaken for the killer and killed by mistake. Again, you have the audience thinking. In the 3rd act, it is discovered there were originally 3 killers, and two were twins. (There are several horror films made in the past with a killer siblings trope). They could have also called out or poked fun of how the killer's monolog explains this and that and why this and why that, and too much for their own good, and all the monologuing is pointless because the bad guys have the upper hand and all they have to do is shoot the victims, but no, they keep on talking. This is what ultimately gets the bad guys killed. I'm not even a screenwriter and I got better ideas than the new scream.
Yeah I thought the movie was boring. The only good scene was the death scene of Judy Hicks (which the race home kinda felt like Scream 3's opening anyway, so even that wasn't original lol). Sorry to disagree - but I didnt think Dewey's death scene was that great. Think of it this way - if that death scene were a different character instead of Dewey, would you still think it's a good scene?? My ranking of the Scream movies from best to worst: 1) SCREAM 1 (BEST) 2) SCREAM 2 3) SCREAM 4 4) SCREAM 3 .... .... .... 5) SCREAM 5 (WORST).
@@Logan-dn6uv Yes, it was. It really hurts the presence of Ghost Face knowing THOSE two pansy-a** clowns are supposedly wearing the costume. Then the heroes are not relatable. They're hardly likeable. I don't even remember their character names... outside of "the twins"
I loved the movie and respect your opinion, of course. When Skeet Ulrich appeared I got so excited. I think no one was expecting. Also, Dewey's death was brutal with Ghostface kicking his body like a Mortal Kombat's fatality was cruel but necessary. Jack Quaid's acting was awesome, funny and interesting at the same time. I didn't expect that the writers were going to just repeat the boyfriend killer so it was kind of surprising. Amber was more obvious and I guess she could have had a better motive (e.g. being in love with Tara). Glad that we saw Martha Meeks, and that Chad and Mindy survived, I really liked Mindy. Loved the meta dialogues and all the references to the original. KIRBY'S ALIVE! Judy could have had more screentime and I missed the epic chase scenes from Scream 2. So, Scream 2022 for me it's 4/5 My ranking: 1.Scream (1996) 2.Scream (2022) 3.Scream 2 4.Scream 4 5.Scream 3
@cindy anally wisconsin when Richie (Jack Quaid's character) was watching a TH-cam video about Stab 8, there is a video being suggested to the right of the laptop's screen that says "Interview with survivor Kirby Reed"
What I really missed was a chase scene! Scream 4 did the same … barely (if any) actual chase scenes! Ghost face just pops up for a jump scare and stabs. I got so bored of it :(
Im with you on this opinion. Something that kept bugging me was the film trying to convince US that Amber a small sized girl was able to over Power and kill these people. In some scenes she even was taller than Dewey and Wes...? Yea it didnt convince me and the more it played in my mind after watching the film it kept ticking me.
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I also felt like the constant meta dialouge of it being a requal, ways to survive, things you should and shouldn't do, needing to bring back the OG characters to not piss off the fans, etc., was overdone. It was basically every other line and overshadowed any actual plot and emotion. I know the old movies did it a bit but they also kept a really strong story and character development going. It was just way too much this time around.
Agreed
i disagree
i disagree
I'm not surprised whole meta commentary and self awareness has been overdone
Disagree and well, that is what the Scream franchise is known for 🤣🤣
Scream 4 had better writing in terms of original new characters and development that felt like they knew each-other and it balanced them well with the legacy characters while scream 2022 they were poorly written and didn’t have character behind most of the names at all just seemed like people to kill randomly and the legacy characters were so disconnected
That’s the difference between the great Kevin Williamson and his rich world-building characters versus fanboy-wannabe-Scream screenwriters.
Exactly what I feel. 20 minutes into Scream 4 and I already know and love the new cast. They blended so perfectly with the old ones I sometimes forgot they were not carried over from the previous films. Fast forward to Scream 2022 and in the beginning of the final act I'm still trying to remember who was who on Tara's group of friends.
@@gabrielgomes4228 Same here. Liv was useless and totally unnecessary. Liv and Amber could've been merged together as one character and Amber could've had more screen time.
@@MaryTheresa1986 Right? When Amber revealed herself as (one of) the killer(s) and shot Liv I thought: "Wow! So it was... who is this again?". Really, my surprise faded while processing the scene. In no other Scream movie I had the reveal moment diluted by trying to remember who was the character like in this one. I remember now but it's only because I read about it and saw many reviews after seeing the movie.
@@gabrielgomes4228YES! Scream 4, you know all their names, people were freaking the fuck out with Kirby will she/won’t she live etc. I will never forget being in the theater and hearing a woman go,”that bitch has lost her mind” when Jill was going through the table. In 5, there were too many characters , not enough time to develop them, and I really do only remember Mandy. It’s way past the millennium, I need a goddamn motive. This had a huge amount of potential. Even though I loved Judy Hicks, they should have kept her out. It was pointless. She had some of the best one liners in the fourth. I’m late to this channel, sorry for the rant.
The back story just nonsense, the killers motive is beyond stupid (I absolutely hated it), I really didn’t care for any of the new characters. A total disappointment all together, especially Dewey’s death / he didn’t deserve that. I agree with you 1000%
It’s the 5th fucking movie in the franchise what do you expect they’re just here to make money
What was their motive?
@@LadyLiberty-c8i Yeah, I don’t know why I keep expecting to be impressed by these run-of-the-mill sequels. You can only do the copycat killer thing once, then it inevitably becomes trite and tired.
The motive was brilliant and a direct critique of toxic fans that cannot let things go and move on.
Scream ended with Sydney's story arc coming to a close. 4 was garbage a TikTok, Snapchat filter, nepotism of cast with corny jokes.
Your take is refreshing. I was starting to feel like I was the only one let down by the new film. It wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen, but that Wes quote at the end of this video really summed it up. This film seemingly hit all the technical beats, but neglected to add much heart and soul, all while taking the legacy cast for granted. I'd give it a 5.5/10
That’s just wrong though, there was clearly ALOT of heart and love put into this film and you can definitely see it.
@@chaseraube-boyer7067 it’s not a matter of agreeing, what I said was a fact. There was a lot of love put into this film. That’s a fact, not opinion.
Yes, exactly :( Such a disappointing movie.
@@jayerm it wasnt
@@bug8357 Wtf are u talking about?? This movie sucked in comparison to the first 4. This next generation is filled with a bunch of Billy loomis wannabes. How’s that putting a lot of “effort” and “love” into the film????! Cliche after cliche and lazy writing. That’s a fact
Tbh i hate that Sam is taking on Sidney's role. I think Tara deserves it much more. She is a bad ass
love how she called Richie and scared him towards the end
@@bronzemuseum504 fr just like Sidney did with Stu in the original. Another reason she should take on Sids role
I actually liked Sam, i really don’t understand the hate. I like the fact that she’s not like the cliche young virgin, also she has a huge dilema being the daughter of a serial killer, which i felt was really fresh and new, she’s the completely opposite to Sidney’s in the first movie, which is good.
@@depressedboy2212 No i like her too. I think shes cool but idk i just like Tara better. Tara stuck out way more to me than Sam
Lowkey I feel like Tara’s gonna get a bigger role in 6. Sam could be a supporting character or might even bite the bullet
Wes craven was a master at suspense! The film had no suspense and was lacking the build up to the kills which made the chase scenes iconic and synonymous with the scream franchise. Any of the new cat and mouse chase scenes do not compare with the opening of scream 1 or scream 2 'gales chase scene' 🤔
I think it did have some suspense in it.
I figured out who killer was the moment Damien didn't provide his last name when he was introduced.
Can I just say I was very disappointed on how Stu’s character was looked over as “oh he was just Billy’s accomplice” nothing special, one of the girls was literally looking back and forward asking “Who’s Stu Macher??” That’s what made the first Scream iconic because it was TWO Ghostface killers and I truly loved Stu’s character because he’s too goofy to be the killer, but SURPRISE! Like Stu was much more than a weak accomplice, Stu never got caught or slipped up, Billy got caught with the phone and got arrested and I felt Stu had to hurry up and pick up and cover were Billy left to continue pulling it off. #RespectStuMacher
P.S. I did not like CGI Billy
I totally agree. The surprise element of the "who dun it" is one of the most exciting parts which I think was missing in the new movie. The original was masterful at misdirection which gave it a cleverness we definitely didn't see in this one.
Wrong
How'd they overlook Stu? They were at HIS HOUSE 😅 or an upgraded version of it anyway. Stu wasn't caught slipping? Sidney killed him tho. Not hating on Stu but just saying. Skeet Ulrich was de-aged
%100 agree
@@rahbeeuh yea Sidney killed him after the reveal, but no one knew Stu was involved, even Randy suspected only Billy, Stu he figured was just a lapdog who couldn’t see Billy as the main suspect
My favorite scene in the movie hands down. When they visited Dewey and he gave Sam and Richie the rules to being in a real Scream movie. Dewey questioned Richie immediately and also said it was one of Tara’s friends. He nailed it just like Randy did in the original. I loved Richie. He spends the whole movie as the voice of reason calling out the possible killers, only to be the killer himself. It was as if Randy was the killer in the original. Great spin, great ghostface.
Mickey in Scream 2 also pointed the blame at others before revealing himself as the killer. He even got Sidney to distrust Derek.
Dewey also said it’s always someone in the friend group, not true with Mrs. Loomis or Roman, no one liked that dude. He also said you can never trust the love interest even though Derek and Kincaide were good guys.
@@aaronmckee1698 Mickey was an awesome ghostface in both kills and phone calls
@@bronzemuseum504 yep. I’ve been a fan of Timothy Olyphant’s ever since. There hasn’t been a character/performance like his in any of the sequels since. No one’s out here being like, oh that Matt keeslar, he’s a future star
I thought Sam was kind of weak as the main character, Tara would’ve been a better choice. Also in one of the trailers Melissa Barrera said each new character is tied to a legacy character but once the killers were revealed I didn’t really see the connection.
Tara was the better fighter & smarter person she’s basically the Sarah’ Michelle Gellar to Sam’s Jennifer Love Hewitt except she didn’t die like Sarah
@@MetalMadness_00 I appreciate the SMG and JLH reference 🙂
Tara should be the main lead of this new scream trilogy because Melisa Barrera's acting was straight up awful throughout this film. Her character didn't really show much emotion and she was someone you couldn't take seriously.
@Aggressive Filmmaker I guess they counted Judy Hicks as a legacy character in Wes' case. Maybe the killers did care about some of the "stupid Stab sequels".
Sam’s backstory reminded me a mix of Mamma Mia and Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker, plus a mix of fanfiction so I don’t think that’s original.
I can see how everyone is connected: Sam is Billy’s daughter obviously, Mindy and Chad are Randy’s niece and nephew, Wes is Judy Hick’s son, and Liv is the ex-girlfriend of Stu Macher’s nephew.
(I wonder if Sam and Tara’s father will be seen or mentioned in Scream 6 and if he’ll have any connection or relation to previous characters. Since Kirby is supposedly to return in the 6th one, Sam and Tara’s father could probably be somehow related to her? Maybe Mr. Carpenter and Kirby can be cousins? I don’t know…)
Sidney was NOT upset enough over Dewey’s death. That alone killed this movie for me, but there was a tonne of other stuff I loathed too.
Considering how many close people have died to her she probably numb at this point
@@joshpaul6417 Bollocks. Dewey was like family.
@@BombatronProductions so was Tatum, so was Randy, shit her actual family was trying to kill her. I wouldn't doubt she was numb to it.
I agree and it’s probably because they didn’t do a scene of her finding out via news. Like the scenes should’ve been dewy death- Sid finds out via breaking news- gale arrives on scene to see Dewey’s body bag. Then we could’ve had a visceral reaction from Sid and see her resolve to come back to woodsboro or even a scene with her telling Kincaid that she has to do this to protect her family and avenger dewy and she needs him to stay with the kids to protect them in case of anything.
She was just focused on the bs
My issue with the film is the inconsistencies when amber is ghostface like how she magically gets taller and her shoulders become more bigger and every time she gets hit she sounds like a man and the voice changer isn’t even on for her voice to be different.
That’s kind of to be expected tho. Mrs. Loomis is probably way too old and unfit to pull off half the shit she did in Scream 2
Yeah I totally agree!! I hate how Scream is so unrealistic with the height differences and how they use tall Stuntmen.. No way 5’3 tiny Amber can overpower Dewey like that and stab him all the way up & pick him off his feet like that.. I don’t buy it
bro, just deal with it 😌
I agree with most of your points. There was barely any character development for the new cast, which meant the reveal of Amber meant nothing. The audience in the cinema had no reaction at all. I also think Mindy was so forced and cringe. No idea why she’s expected to be the breakout character - all her dialogue and scenes felt unnatural and too desperate to be Randy.
Right. She just came off as a smug stoner to me and it was very one note lol.
@@OrthoLou that was kinda the point...
When they revealed Amber I was like who tf is she? She was in the movie for like 5 minutes before getting revealed as a killer.
@Ghostface worst scene of the whole movie!
@@Bawitdabadabangdadang lol, amber had more screen time than mickey, Ms. Loomis, and Roman
While I enjoyed the movie, my issue isn’t with the acting or the reveal/motives. During Judy’s race home, she asks the police to track her phone AND likely had a firearm, yet she didn’t think to draw it when running to the house. There’s also a massive time issue with Judy being left on the pavement in broad daylight and the amount of time Wes wanders the house. Nobody saw Judy get killed OR see her body laying out there? Only TWO police officers show AND the same ones from the hospital?
I thought that too. I seen a police officer call an all hands and those people were there like lightning
Honestly, I almost wonder if they heard that a lot of fans were theorizing that Wes and Judy were going to be the killers, and that's why they killed them off so early. At the same time, I did notice how stab happy at least the female killer who I already forgot the name of who was supposed to be Tara's ride or die BFF. It was almost like a mania. She sort of reminded me of Beth from season 3 of the TV show.
She left her gun with Wes
@@djcruiselover3827 that bothered me so much. why did the cops take so long to arrive at the SHERIFF’s house?
@@StarshineGoomba omg she did give Beth vibes
I think this movie and Scream 4 were very similar in concept and execution. I really liked it!! I do think Scream 4 did a better job balancing legacy characters and the new group but I get they’re trying to move forward without the legacy characters
I thought David was great in the movie, as I pointed out in my review on my channel.
I disagree buddy. The point of the movie was to intro us to a new world and cast WITH the OGs tied in. Sydney came in at the perfect time to me. Gale came at the perfect time.
@@_manofreal3133 problem was the new cast were unlikeable you didn't give a toss about them being killed
@@_manofreal3133 I agree.
@@markpugh6808 sorry to tell you, but you have an unpopular opinion. Most people loved the Meeks, the Carpenter sisters, and Amber.
Ghost dad Billy is straight up unforgivable. I had zero clue what they were going for with that....this didn't even feel like a scream film it just felt like a weird fan film. My suspension of disbelief just was not here for this movie, it felt like actors on a set, saying some meta shit that the writers thought would take their crappy slasher to the next level. I really hate this movie.
Well looks like your in the minority
This movie was poorly written fan fiction at best. I agree 100%. Scream 4 should have been the last Scream. If this movie proved anything it's that you can't make a Scream film without Wes
There's no ghost Billy "Billy's" first line is literally 'antipsychotics aren't working as well as they used to' it's a psychotic hallucination
@@nicolewhite3157 Yes, I thought he was a manifestion of her anxities and worries that she was going to turn into some kind of psycho because of him. It looks like him because he was the root cause of the problems that occurred in her mind.
@Aggressive Filmmaker But it seems that convincing filmmakers to not add fanservice or to keep it to the bare minimum is an art that have yet to be discovered.
What i dont like, is you have a 6 foot Ghostface the whole time and then the killer is revealed to be the shortest character in the movie lol. It makes it hard to believe that it was her doing the killing and When you break it down, Amber did most of the killing.
That is a problem with a lot of Screams. The ghostfaces in scream 2 and 4 frequently had this problem
@@baders087 Nope. You can can see which kills were Mrs Loomis vs Micky. It wasn't an issue in 2.
I think there was significance to the motive and them luring Sam to the house. They wanted her there because of how important the house was to the OG killings and her relation to Billy. They wanted to pin it all on her. I thought it was interesting. I respect your review and I totally see where you're coming from. Personally I loved the movie and I think it's the best sequel since the second movie.
yeah the reveal itself and motive wasnt that great BUT the way Ghostface was to put all the blame on Sam for being Billy's daughter was great af. First time where the one given the blame makes sense unlike older movies trying to put the blame on Sidney which made 0 sense. Correction Beside 1 time
Watch it at least 3 times before you make your final decision. First time you watch it you're basically subliminally looking for flaws.
Second time you watch it you know who the killers are so you watch it knowing this and pay more attention to detail and realise the plot was actually really good.
3rd time you watch it you appreciate it more for what it was the meta, the gore, the performances, you pay attention to detail about every line.
And if you can watch it 3 times and appreciate that this is a requel. And the scene where mindy explains it is literal and meta.
It sets up and other 2 films at least. This movie had to happen exactly like this in order for the story to continue, which as fans, it's all we really want.
@@bronzemuseum504 that’s not accurate. In the first movie, the plan was to blame Sidney’s father. That did make sense because he was always a red herring, and it would have worked had Billy and Stu not been idiots by stabbing themselves before finishing Sidney.
In this newest one, framing Sam doesn’t hold the same weight. She was never suspected, not even to us audience. It was just a convenient plot device since she was Billy’s daughter. That too was insignificant because it made no difference whatsoever to the events of the movie. The sisters could’ve been random girls in this town being targeted by their friends and nothing at all would be different from the actual plot.
Why make her Billy’s daughter? Just so we can see Skeet return in an ill advised cameo? They could’ve done better
@@ravengyal + it would be hard for her to be framed since her sister was attacked before she comes back to town... any cops, if they aren't in soapland, would immediatly see the problem.
@@ravengyal i forgot to be more specific about which but yeah the majority is about Sidney taking the blame for different reasons. The first is the only one different. Also the fact that Sam isnt all that great takes nothing away thats shes the perfect scapegoat. Rewatch the movie and pay more attention even Dewey agrees on that point
Yes! They LIED to OG fans to make us think that Sidney, Dewey and Gale had significant roles, in order to get more ticket sales for the movie. It's a shame. When you see the trailer, you think that they have prominent roles, although Sam is the new final girl. But their roles were so small that if they'd been removed from the movie, it wouldn't impact the movie at all.
They didn’t lie we knew since they announced Neve Campbell agreed to do another Scream movie that they weren’t going to have significant roles bc they want to pass the torch.
@@a1ac953 yeah I’m not buying plus they killed Dewey the most expendable character in pathetic fashion
@@MetalMadness_00 I agree I think Dewey went out like a str8 up rookie
@@a1ac953 hell if Tara is holding her own in bad condition then this should be a walk in the park for Dewey
@@MetalMadness_00 wait? You mean you don’t think a 90 lbs girl could lift a grown man off the floor with a knife? No way! You sexist!
I liked the twins. The sisters are a solid new lead and douey was a badass! But Wes was massively under used he could of been a great character
The twins sucked! They were bitchy and douchey and nothing nice about them. They were thrown in for diversity.
@@frankpetersen6624 I liked the twins
@@cthomas5962 And why is that. What made them appealing and fun to be around?
@@frankpetersen6624 their humor, they fill the Randy void, the male character was expected to be a douche jock and he wasn’t, the female character was witty and funny
@@frankpetersen6624 why is someone else's opinion causing u migraines?
I mentioned this to you in Twitter already, but I’m honestly really grateful to see someone - you - openly criticizing the film, and despite the fact that I have a few more grievances, I completely agree with you. It was good, but it just didn’t feel like Scream and for me, the trio IS Scream so seeing them take a backseat felt so wrong. I didn’t feel any sort of connection to any of the new cast besides Sam and Tara, so having the trio used more as devices than the embodiment of the franchise really negated the impact of the story. Gale, Dewey, and Sid are and have always been my draw to the franchise, so sidelining “the heart” as Wes referred to them felt cheap and I genuinely feel like anything beyond this can’t be true to or honoring of the original films now that the trio is no more. A lot of people have compared the impact of [Death] to Randy’s, Tatum’s, Cotton’s, etc. but it’s just not the same because none of those characters are Scream in the way that these three are.
But anyway, back to my original point - thank you so much for being honest with your critique!
I really enjoyed the movie, but the motive still doesn’t explain why they couldn’t just create a new movie about the original 3 regardless. Just go after them again
After watching what we got, I would have definitely preferred your idea. This movie suffered because of how little it was connected to the OG 3. I’ve always been a mega fan of them, but I went into this with an open mind. After seeing the movie, I am now a firm believer that Scream is the story of Sidney Prescott (and Gale and Dewey).
They explained a requel, and the rules. That’s why.
They wanted a requel.. so they where going to blame Sam
They wanted it based on actual events again didn't he say that in the movie?? Richie
100%. Imagine how cool it would have been if there was a scene dedicated to Ghostface calling Sid, Gale and Dewey while they're all living their respective lives luring them back to Woodsboro.
i’m very disappointed, and i’ve been watching these movies since i was a kid, in my opinion the killers motives were just not well thought out, boring, and the new characters were SHALLOW. it felt like they just copied and pasted a lot from scream 4 idk it just felt shallow af and just didn’t do justice after this 10 year wait since scream 4
Judy’s and Wes’ deaths were tragic and heartbreaking, I felt so bad for them both especially Judy. I too didn’t care that much, but I still felt bad.
The opening girl was one of the best - she had a great arc through the movie, and I enjoyed how she survived! That was a fun little new idea... One thing that stuck out to me was how nonchalant Sidney was with the fact that her ex had an illegitimate daughter!! The ex that started all this nonsense...
And I agree whole heartedly that the core trio was not used enough at all. Honestly, Dewey should've done a headshot from the first bullet - his character knows a lot better than that. Seemed like a poor excuse to have a shocking death. And the constant "meta" movie talk and "who is it?" dialogue got a little tedious throughout the movie. I could tell Kevin Williamson did not write this one...
Yep Sidney told Dewey to shoot Roman in the head
You said it perfectly. The meta commentary felt forced, something that would never happen in a Kevin Williamson film.
“So you’re Billy Loomis’ daughter.” That’s it. No reaction to her being told he had a daughter. We’re not shown her being told he had a daughter. That shit would burn deep.
When he shoots Ghsotface at the hospital, I was like yes, let’s kill one the killers before the finale. We haven’t seen that before. Then, never mind. I also hate that he gets distracted by his phone. Like, man, focus on the task at hand. Shoot first, answer phone later. And Ritchie has no reaction to Amber getting shot. And amber overpowers Dewey…
I agree. I would’ve at least liked a nod to the original movie with Sam and Tara’s mom maybe being one of the bitchy girls from the bathroom scene and Sidney possibly saying she knew Billy had been stepping out on her since she wasn’t giving him any sex
At this point, Sid probably thought, "Of course the bastard had an illegitimate daughter!"
Dude…… THANK YOU. The amount of people I’ve seen falling all over themselves to call this a fantastic movie are nuts. It’s a perfectly solid/decent movie. The Mindy love is really crazy to me. Tara/Wes/Richie all killed it IMO. The rest of the new cast were solid (Mindy/Chad/Amber) to barely on screen (Liv/Vince) to downright bad (Sam’s acting really dampened this movie for me).
Remember that movie’s opinions are subjective
@@josearaujo2801 Definitely. I just think some people were gonna say it was fantastic movie regardless of how good or bad it really was. Just like I think some people were gonna crap on it regardless of how good or bad it was.
I agree Freddy! Perfectly fine, 6.0 (or 7.0) out of 10 film. Nothing special, idk why so many people seem to be overlooking obvious flaws with the film just to praise it beyond what it realistically deserves. & I’m a huge scream franchise fan. This is not a bad movie at all. Just not as groundbreaking as others claim.
Every-time I see a comment saying something similar to this one, I love the movie more and more lmao
@@frostichops3411 I’m happy my opinion of a movie could have this much influence over you. Glad you enjoyed the movie.
Fantastic entry. Sydney’s line at the end “I always survive.” Was the perfect balance of meta and a beautiful end note to those suffering trauma. Gale not wanting to cover the murders in her next book was the perfect arc for her. She has definitely grown the most over the series. Dewey stole the show as one of OGC. His heroism and courage not just in this film but over the course of all movies - was celebrated in the most beautiful way.
This film made me laugh, cry, sit on the edge of my seat. It was smart, it had SERIOUS heart, incredible acting in the likes of Jena Ortega.
From the opening scene to Wes and his mom, to Dewey’s demise, Gale and Sydney taking down the killer, the high stake third act. It was 👌🏼
I agree 100%. And Judy and Wes' deaths were so painful and sad to watch!
Agreed!!!
Judy and Wes’ deaths hit me hard. Dewey’s hit me hard as well. Literally cried in the theater.
I'm guessing Gale didn't want to write about the murders both because of Dewey's death and because her books about the previous killing sprees partly motivated psychos to become Ghostface for fame.
🗣️Not Today!
@@davidallenconnects def my fav kills because of the emotion they brought out of me lol I really liked Wes, but he was barely there basically lol that's a good actor
I completely agree. I could tell I'd be disappointed from the opening scene alone. It just wasn't very good.
@Im just a Troll whos intentions are good No it wasn't very good.
AT ALL IT WAS TRASH
@Im just a Troll whos intentions are good no it wasn't
Agree with everything you said. Motive needed to be more “personal” to Sam-and to Sidney, so as to link the characters in some way. The killers being random people sort of takes it out of the Scream movie template in an unfortunate way.
Killing people because you disliked ‘Stab 8’ is not grounds for reviving a classic franchise.
@@BombatronProductions I agree but maybe they were puppets and there is a leader in future scream. That's what I'm guessing. If u recall in scream 1 there 4 survivors the og 3 and randy. This one had the sisters and brother and sister still alive which makes 4 also. To me it would been better to keep wes alive instead and just kept mindy alive instead of her brother. Cause in a future installment having wes alive with his mom dead same with mindy with her brother death add more investment to them. Having them dwell on there loss would add more depth to there characters that's just my opinion. Example Wes apparently had a crush on Tara similar to randy was to sidney. It's Similar in a sense but differnt cause cause mindy is new randy and tara isnt the finale girl. But the result of the geek getting the girl is the same in that sense. Would of made more sense to me doin sumthing along those lines as there might be a trilogy involved.
Absolutely.
you guys are tweaking ... the KILLERS didn't need to have any connection to any of their victims to kill ... if anything, this Scream movie was more realistic seeing as serial killers in real life have always gone after random people .. you guys are weird bruh lol
@@richieave55 we don’t want realistic, we want good storytelling.
the connection between sam & billy & the “instinct” was really what saved the ending imo. I think the fan motive was really bland & everyone in the theater was very underwhelmed by that motive. I think there could’ve been something more creative done there. I feel like they went with that motive to make fans almost feel silly for having a dislike for the film, because it would essentially be proving the motives point.
Exactly. If the new movie can’t rely on the new actors and have to rely on the OG Ghostface to somewhat save the day? That’s not good. We can’t have Ghost Billy showing up to save the day in every movie.
I agree with this wholeheartedly and immediately thought this when the motive was revealed lol. It's honestly genius tho and I think it's working. I wanted to see the movie on opening night, but unfortunately didn't get to. every horror fan that I follow on instagram was posting about how much they loved the movie, that it was perfect, and the best scream since the original. obviously I was excited and had high expectations. so when I finally saw it tonight, I was extremely let down. I was genuinely questioning my own opinions because I thought "am I think toxic fan for not loving this as much as everyone else?!" I respect it tho because it makes me view the movie and the fans differently. it wasn't terrible by any means, and I can't wait to see it again. but I think some people are lying to themselves so they don't prove the point of the movie lmao
the motive was perfect .. i think it was written for weird ass fans like you guys .. always upset and knit picking at every movie and every sequel .. the movie was GREAT!! im tired of fans like you shitting on every sequel just because they didnt write the movie the way YOU want it to be written!!
@@frankiesoiree yeah it was super evident in the theater when the motive was revealed that a lot of people were kinda like “?? that’s it?”
Honestly her embracing Billy and him nodding to her in the end just felt....wrong. Almost icky and sketchy.
The problem with the movie is that everything is said on the dialogue, there's no suspense or place to fill the void... For example Dewey and Gale talking about their relationship like... they haven't dealed with it before? It felt like it was just to serve the porpuse of informing the audiencie and not natural at all, or at the end when she says "I know what I will write about...a good sheriff that used to live in this Town" wtf kind of dialogue is that or Sam saying that monologue about been Billy's daughter like all is on the table, no sustance or ínterpretation.
Wes Craven deserved better, nothing can replace the way he executed the scene and suspense. This movie fails to understand that just because Sam says we are trap on a fan fiction movie it justifys its lazyness, lack of original ideas and poorly execution. Dewey deserved better than to be killed by Amber (???) what an awful character that wsd, even Emma Roberts got to show at the end of Scream 4 that she was tough to deal with killing people, amber got shot with the bulletproof vest and just carried on like nothing happened to her. Wes Craven once said "never insult the audience" this movie just did that.
Do you wanna know something else it did? It maid 100 million dollars
@@LadyLiberty-c8i LOL... SOOOOOOOO TRUE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reasons for almost every person that was killed or almost killed was they were related to, or involved with someone from the first 4 movies.
Dewey was a legacy character obviously
Judy was a returning character
Wes was related to Judy
Vince was Stu’s Nephew
The Meeks twins Randy’s niece and nephew
Tara was to lure Sam back
Sam’s Billy’s daughter
And Liv was just wrong place wrong time (or you can say it’s cause she was cheating on Chad with Stu’s Nephew)
If you connect everyone to their lineage, it makes sense.
I think liv could be related to characters mentioned in the original. Casey's dad tells her mom to go to/call the MacKenzies. This was also a reference to the original Halloween.
I think they killed Dewey off to bring Sidney into the movie. She wouldn't have shown up otherwise. He told her not to come to Woodsboro, him dying serves as a good reason to show up.
Also. In an interview, David Arquette told them he didn't want to keep playing Dewey. So he wanted his character to be killed off
@@moonlitdoll13 I think Sidney was already on her way back. I don't think she came back upon hearing Dewey died. That would have taken a couple of days and I'm sure it was the same day because why would Gale be at the hospital when she comes into town? Dewey died there so it makes sense for her to be there and mope that same day. And if David didn't want to play Dewey anymore, then they could have at least wrote him out where he still has his life. All that man went through and survived, and he goes out like this? It was bitter sweet.
@@paladin1385 oh damn, I didn’t even think of that. Good call!
The character death that I wasn't prepared for was Wes's death. Judy's death was inevitable in my mind when she got the call on her way to pick up dinner. But I thought Wes, her son, was going to get startled by a cop since Judy had called all available officers to her home. I assumed we were going to get a scene where cops come in and tell him to not go outside and he does and sees his mom. But we didn't get that..
So while he is getting everything ready for dinner, the music changes every time he opened a pantry door or the fridge and the whole time I'm thinking this sweet son who loves his Mom enough to carry around mace and tasers, is making up his mom's place setting and getting ice for her drink, reading that lemon square note and scoffing at how how funny his mom is. I just got the picture that they had a good relationship and he cares a lot about her. meanwhile she's been gutted on the porch, steps from the door. By that time I was like, shit a cops gonna come and he's gonna see her dead. SAD. But no, the scene kept going on with him just being a nice teen and helping his mom out for dinner and then he dies too! :( I was like shiiiiiit.
The things that i didn’t like about the movie;
1- Sam’s acting was not it and i wish Tara was the main girl.
2- There was no character development, it felt really rushed.
3- I wish there was at least one chase scene. Killing scenes happened too fast.
4- Trailer showed too much. Vince, Chad, Amber’s burning (Sidney’s hair was also shown), Gale’s mourn (everyone knew that was about Dewey) and they showed too much about opening scene.
5- After Amber revealed herself, suddenly Mindy disappeared and came back at the end of the movie.
6- Chad and Tara literally stabbed to death so many times and survived somehow.
7- When Richie and Sam were fighting to death at the entrance, Gale and Sidney were literally in the kitchen. Amber was already burnt so did they just chit-chatted about weather or something?
The list goes on.. I still enjoyed the movie tho.
Omg yeah Sidney and Gale really said “Should we help Sam? Nah 😌💅🏻”
The original cast were EXTREMELY too sidelined. I felt very cheated by how little they were in it, just to lure us. I got no real closure on those 3, and that is what I was hoping for. (If it’s true that they are leaving them behind, then we deserved it.) Im holding out hope that we might get it in the next one, but I’m afraid they are just going to completely abandon them now. And that’s such a disservice. So disappointed.
Why leave them out so much? If it was to give us time to fall in love with the new characters, then that failed. Because although I thought several of the new ones did a good job, I just don’t care about them. I have no interest in where their story goes from here. So extremely sad. I really hope this isn’t the end of the line for me, but it just feels like it is. 😞
Too many characters, trying to cram too much into the time allowed left me not caring about the new cast and cast just wanting more of Sidney and Gale.
Yeah Chad and his sister made it just to make up for all the black characters killed in past Horror movies.
While I doubt any Scream fan would choose Dewey to die over Chad. So Chad could get Dewey’s “hey look, he made it!” ending.
Mindy not only black but a lesbian also meant she was definitely safe. I mean it just made it more predictable. Like it was the CW’s version of Scream.
@@Jim222001 you sound like the people the killers are parodying
Agree 100%. I didn't become invested in any of the new characters. There were just too many of them, and honestly, they didn't have much charisma. I feel like I'm done with the franchise. When I'm in my Scream mood, I'll just put on one of the original four movies.
Maybe they'll have a bigger role if there's a Scream 6 (minus a certain character of course).
I agree to a certain extent, the new characters were good but they promoted the movie as if the ogs were a huge part of the movie but that was my only gripe. I love this movie
I was very disappointed too
This was my thoughts on Scream 2022 when I left the movie theather Thursday. The pros, mix and cons
Positives:
- It has its own identity (I was afraid it would turn out being too similar Scream 4, with this whole "woodsborow massacre" again) [EXCELENT]
- Lots of Easter Eggs (classic old themes of the franchise, classic characters like Marta, Randy's cousin and maybe the mention to "Mark" Kincaid?, and so much more) [EXCELENT]
- Bold (it killed Judy, Wes, Dewey), Tara survives [EXCELENT]
- It made me care for the characters [EXCELENT]
- Lots of gore (many stabs in "chilling" places like neck and mouth) [GOOD]
- Interection between Sidney and Gale (I LOVED the scene where Gale recgonizes and feeling bad that her books may have created this whole massacres throught the entire franchise) [EXCELENT]
- Sidney (and Gale kinda) are more pro-active and less passives like in Scream 4, they have a goal and they work on it [EXCELENT]
- A the story overall is good [EXCELENT]
- Ghostface is more active in the first half of this film than in any other movie before, with lots of kills and attempts of kill [EXCELENT]
- The criticizism of toxic fandom was really nice to be play out here [GOOD]
Mix:
- It's not a Sidney Prescott's story (I would image this day would come on day: the day that franchise would pass the torch to a new group of protagonists. I understand the reason but I'm so fan of Sidney..)
- Nice comment on how some people thinks modern horror movies feels more important and better due to their critiscism of social tackles than the classics "simplistic" older slashers movies (I'm not knowing how to explain my point in english) BUT this comentary only happens just once at the opening scene
- The killers motifs (the last STAB movie being bad and outraged fans) were tackled too quick during the movie, what made it a little bit silly (intentionally or not, I didn't get it)
- Billy's ghost. It was a little bit weird but I liked seeing Billy somehow again. I thought it was Melissa's character imagination, not Billy's ghost tho
- The justification for the killing spree is good, the whole "requel" thing is a good comentary on (horror) movies trend that's going on but I was brought up by Mindy out of nowhere at the beggining of the movie and never brought up again during the rest of the movie until the Ritchie and Amber speech as they explain their motives. And weird how Mindy came at that conclusion too fast, too precisely and end it up being 100% right. If she was the killer, it would be all right, tho
Negatives:
The major one: The third act in general
1- The review of the first killer was too sudden and quick [REALLY REALLY BAD]
2 - For the most of time I didn't think Sidney or Gale would die, especially because they already had killed Dewey before [BAD]
3 - I liked and believed in the "innocent character Ritchie". I was cheering for him doesn't turn out to be the killer, what ended up happening [KINDA BAD]
4- It had no chase scene at all during the whole movie or tension scenes during the third act like in [REALLY REALLY BAD]
Sid's scene with ghostface in Stu's house in Scream 1
Sid and Halley's car scene and Gale and Dewey's scene at the university in Scream 2
The every scene in John Milton's mansion in Scream 3
The scenes in Kirby's house in Scream 4
-Amber was the one character I even forget about it befere she revealing she was the killer. I actually remebered her name was Amber way after the movie was over [LITTLE BAD (it was my fault)]
- The injuries from stabs and guns in this movies so not lethal. Sidney, Chad, Tara, Gale, Mindy all suffred a lot of injuries, specially Tara and Chad and they all managed to survive. It felt cheap by the end of the movie [KINDA BAD]
- The least emblematic killers considering motifs, on-screen appearence, relevance and psycho interpretation [REALLY BAD]
- The killers might be considered too obvious [REALLY BAD/KINDA BAD]
- I didn't want to Judy to be killed off (so fast) [LITTLE BAD]
In conclusion every movie from 1-4 felt they nailed at the third act so the end of the movie ended up in a high note. I liked Scream (2022) but the whole third was was really not so good as the beggining and the middle of the movie. This drops my ratings on it by a considerate much. I defenitly think Scream 1 and Scream 2 are better than Scream (2022)
You’re right about the chase scenes. There’s none of that here. Ghostface just suddenly appears behind their victim and attacks. So exciting!
@@aaronmckee1698 Yeah. They could have made some chase scenes with Tara, Wes or Mindy when they were attacked but not. The old "appears behind you, stab you, flee" again and again
@@danielcm4237 but why have a chase scene with an athletic looking Wes when we can watch him set the table and open cupboard doors instead? And each cupboard door he opens we can set up with a possible jump scare until we overplay it so much that when Ghostface is finally there no one cares anymore!
@@aaronmckee1698 That’s the point. Lol they literally exaggerate it on purpose to make fun of it, but idk I’ve seen a lot of people praise Wes and Judy’s death scene to be very tense. As well as Chad’s scene in which he DOES get chased.
@@chriscullen the Chad “chase” is like five steps. It’s all in the trailer, that’s how short it is. I don’t even think the camera has time to move lol
The way Sidney, Gale and Dewey were hardly included made it feel like the trailer showed too much.
I’m sad you felt this way. I think they perfectly handled legacy cast without undoing any of the previous movie arcs (if Sidney was more involved or affected by Sam being Billy’s daughter it would show she has never grown/moved on, which she clearly has) and I love the new cast more than any other new cast since the first (way better than Scream 4s cast, aside from Kirby). With or without Sid an led Gale I’m 100% there opening night again for a Scream 6, I would love to see the carpenter sisters journey forward, the Meek twins were absolutely 2 of my favorites and I’m glad they survived, and I love the idea of Sam being Billy’s daughter cause when she killed Richie… it can add a lot of complexity to any stories going forward because people will always be suspicious of her sanity cause she went CRAZY on Richie (Richie being my other standout favorite from the movie)
Scream (1996) is still now and will probably forever be my favorite movie. And as much as Scream 2 was an amazing sequel, Scream (2022) is my second favorite installment and excites me by doing what Scream 4 said it would do, and set up a world where Ghostface can reign and we don’t NEED the legacy cast to rely on.
RIP Dewey 😭 that It’s an honor line HURTTTT.
honestly knowing this was the final movie with Dewey, they handled it so well. He had many great lines and went out like a hero. Bonus points for giving us one of the most badass Ghostface shot in the franchise
The movie is Awesome but yes not perfect either I wish there was more cheesy chase scenes or creative deaths also the killers were the most random/worst killers like Amber was hardly in it at all until the end.
I DISAGREE IT WAS TRASH
Man! Am I relieved to hear your review! I’ve been feeling like maybe I’m the only one who was disappointed, especially because of how they handled the original trio. Dewey an alcoholic?!! BS. I don’t believe Dewey would even after breaking up with Gale. Also, making Sidney a mom and married to Mark is such a cop out.
Ok I totally agree with the no significant motive! I was like uhhh…interesting…when Amber was revealed to be the killer I was like oh her? She’s had 5 ish minutes of screen time 🤣
That’s the same with Mickey and Mrs Loomis in Scream 2 so get a grip
Exactly Scream 2 in a nutshell 😂
@@woodsborosfinest625 Scream 3 too. You barely saw Roman until he revealed himself as the killer
@@billyjoemasterclass605 In all honesty.... Mickey had several scenes cut out on the final film.... Also neither were doing "evil faces".... That gave it away in the first scene
I loved the movie. However the points you made are so valid. The only death that impacted me was Dewey's.. don't know if it was just me but I teared up a little in the theaters seeing Gale's anguish.
I also loved in that scene you actually have Ghostface speak instead of hearing it over the phone.
I cried a little when Dewey died not gonna lie, i always said that if they wanna kill one of the trio it's should be Dewey cause i love Sidney and Gale more . But when it actually happened i got really sad and cried.
@@Azelkiel56 I did too, theyve all been through horrific trauma but it was so heartbreaking seeing him die like that and seeing how distraught Gale was.
When ghostface said ''it's an honor" chills went through my spine.
@@Hellstothenaw seeing them cry and hug eachother just hit me in the feels😞
Please That Dewey scene, was impactful! UNTIL the killer reveal! That tiny twig girl could never have lasted that long to be able to finish him off. Please. One punch and she would have been done! But no, she was going toe to toe, for a minute, with a grown ass man... after that reveal it made that whole scene and his death a joke! Sure...
@@ShonaSixx96 Yeah that part got to me as well. It’s amazing how far Sidney and Gale have come. They had to team up again to take down the killers.
I feel like there was a missed opportunity between Sam and Sid. Sidney is great at reading people and I wish she would have recognized that Sam was struggling with being the daughter of a serial killer. When Sam asked Sidney and Gail at the end if she was going to be ok, I would have melted if Sidney would have said something along the lines of Billy not being pure evil and maybe if he had gotten professional help to deal with his anger/abandonment issues that none of this would have ever happened. Seeing a vulnerable Sidney speaks about Billy’s good side to give Sam hope would be such a raw moment
Maybe Sidney could have said something like: I see old Billy in you, the protective, caring Billy
Also I was expecting Sidney to be more shocked by the fact that Billy had a daughter. And she could have mentiond Roman atleast once.
bruh .. are you serious??? Billy killed Sid's mother .. why the hell would she say something like that about her mother's murderer????? smh
yeah her response to Sam's words at the end were underwelming.
@@richieave55 bruuuuuh thank you! I hate how everyone is tryna all of a sudden victimize the killer .. that shit is weird af
@@livingdeadgirl5691 She would never think that. I am glad you aren't a writer.
Did anyone see, while Richie was looking at the TH-cam video, one of the videos said, “Interview with Woodsboro Survivor Kirby Reed?”
They told us this movie wouldn’t be so meta like the previous films. This move was THE MOST meta in the entire franchise 😑
They should have just let Kevin Williamson write the movie. I think it wasn't bad at all but it also wasn't good in some parts where it had to deliver. Dewey's death was the most important thing they had to get right but they were lazy and made him die because of a stupid decision and bad luck. The killers were obvious which wasn't really a problem for me, however their motive wasn't really something new. I think the motive should have had a connection to Sam's secret to add more meaning to the Billy Loomis twist and its role in the story. At first I thought Sam is targeted because her father is Billy and the killer is related to a victim in the past that was killed by her father. I know we had the revenge motive already in Scream 2 but the relative of a victim attacking the child of a killer to get revenge would have been a new and fresh idea for the franchise in my opinion.
he will not write scream anymore . he said so.
I can't believe I made my wife rewatch the entire movie series to prep for this one and it was such a let down. I mean, how could one very small and thin amber could have taken on Sid and Gale head on. Took on a football player and took on dewey. Amber magically becomes taller and stronger when wearing the ghost face mask.
I really liked it but I do agree that they didn’t make me care about the characters AT ALL. I really only rooted for Tara to live. At the end when we find out the twins lived I was kinda just like oh ok I guess. I think Tara would have made a much better final girl. The only thing special about Sam was that she was billys daughter.
While I agree with you about the sidelining of the trio, and the motive did fall a little flat (as it did in Scream 4). I don't think it is possible, as long time fans of scream, to relate as hard to any of the new characters as we did to the original line up. An attempt to match would require the late and great Wes Craven and sadly we just didn't have that.
@Mr.Masters. I was a bit disappointed tbh, while there was stuff I did like in Scream (22) overall I left feeling bittersweet and was thinking “was that it”.
I personally wanted something different from the franchise but what we got was more of a tribute.
@@nu-metalfan2654 yeah it was 100% an homage to WES and Scream 1. Hopefully the new movie does more new stuff and can be more unexpected
@@nu-metalfan2654 exactly they brought stus house and all the victims family members back just the motive to be a bunch of stab fans ? Like what that was a hudge wasted potential
@pmerk25 if I'm honest with myself, I can't stand Emma Robert's. Her performance may have ruined that motive for me. The Culkin killed it though.
I'm definitely going to watch it again. For me, Gale was the star. It felt like a return to Scream 1 and 2 Gale, absolute badass. There should definitely have been more than one Gale/Dewey scene.
I think Sidney barely being in it kinda goes with the whole 'I'm bored' line when she was on the phone. You know in life when you're so experienced with something and have moved on, you just don't give a sh** anymore.
Judy. I wish Judy hadn't died. I wish she'd had more scenes. I liked Wes, Amber was obvious from the beginning, Liv & Chad were cannon fodder, Mindy has potential, but I wasn't keen on Tara/Sam, I didn't feel much of a dynamic between the two.
I called amber being the killer as well. I found her overprotective -ness at the beginning to be very performative. I was like yep. It’s this bitch lol
Yeah I'm glad you guys liked it. It does feel more like scream 1. Where purpose of movie to requel the first one like randy niece said in film. Like the force awakens and terminator dark fate/genisys
Gale did nothing in this movie
@@cakes3958 she killed amber
@@cakes3958 sure she did... Heller lol
Ghostface this time around was a lot more aggressive and terrifying this time. The scene with Wes had me on the edge of my seat
yes, exactly! 😭 That was some bs what they did him. This Ghostface was more scarier and more intimidating then the past ones. Ghostface is the one that actually made this film what it was. The characters were one of the issues for me. How are they gonna push all these new characters just for them to only have a little screentime and be killed off just like that?
100 Percent Agree.
yeah that whole Judy/WES scene was awesome. They played with the environement so well that felt like WES could die at any moment
Nope, more gory yes. Terrifying? Naw. No chase scenes, no tension, he appears and boom. And the fact 1 of the killers was that tiny waif skinny girl... lmao. suree... terrifying!
@@bronzemuseum504 It wasnt awesome! Bad writing.. The cops wouldnt have taken that long to arrive AT THE SHERIFFS HOUSE IN THAT TINY ASS TOWN! Please! The opening the doors and the music and closing it to make us think the killer was behind it... please! No chase scenes, nothing... bad writing!
I think the biggest problem I found with the side characters in this movie is that it didn’t feel that their scenes taught us that much about them that wasn’t in relation to “who’s the killer”. Every conversation (outside the prominent figures) was about the murders.
Whereas in Scream 1, there was that, but there was more depth. It never felt like it was pandering to the audience.
Appreciate that you actually posted an honest and authentic review.
I agree with everything. Although I liked the brutal Ghostface, did anyone notice there were no chase scenes? Ghostface just popped up and killed instantly for every death scene, it was more like Jason than Ghostface.
Also, I was shocked at how little screen time Neve had- as well as the insignificance of Stu's house. The new 'final girl' was definitely not on par with Neve Campbell, just felt like a superficial replacement. And the killer's motive was ridiculous.
Still better than Scream 4 though.
Chad got chased.
@@chriscullen You mean he limped to the shed and back? Scraping the barrel there dude.
@Ab Parry. Yeah completely agree that it’s at least better than Scream 4, but the directors and writers had so much to work with, instead it just felt safe (apart from Dewey’s death, which one of the original 3 needed to die). When Richie and Amber were revealed as the killers I felt disappointed because they were both too obvious. There was so little screen time for Sidney. And yeah everyone was speculating about why Stu’s house is back only to not be that big of a deal. Also the movie went by fast.
The only memorable scene was Dewey’s death
The only word I can think of that describes Scream (22) for me is bittersweet.
@@abparry5159 Ghostface ran after him, no? Literally a chase 😂 Not saying the movie is chase heavy by any means but to say there was none is inaccurate.
@@chriscullen He ran about 3 meters towards a limping dude. In terms of the Scream movies that does not really constitute as a chase scene. You could then argue Wes had a chase scene because Ghostface 'ran' at him. Or Tara had a chase scene because she was crawling away.
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(Allow people to have their own opinions and be respectful before thinking of reading my review)
For me....
Scream (2022) was on the same level as Scream 4.... totally disappointing. Scream (2022) felt like an extended episode of the Scream TV series. They didnt do anything new or fresh and regurgitated pretty much the same from every scream movie. The movie also relied too heavy on nastolgia bate and couldn't find its own grounding or originality. It was pretty much a copy and paste of the first movie.
Also the fact that they had an un-experineced scrawny teenager that took on certain legacy characters with tons of experience in this field is an insult to scream fans.
The twist was so predictable, the acting was very corny and the killers motives were probably the weakest in the franchise.
Also too many people survived and everything just felt forced with the main characters.
The only thing it had going for it, was the kills, especially Judy's death. It was quite emotional seeing her trying to save her son, but then getting savagely stabbed by Ritchie.
I am never putting my faith into a Scream movie ever again. God knows why people are giving this a higher rating than the original.... come on now.
I felt soo let down.
2/5
I knew this was going to happen, anytime you keep continuing movies a big majority of them become trash
@@whatsgoodfam772 me too. As soon as I watched The Matrix Ressurections, I knew this film was in trouble.
@@abrimfulofasha heard it was crap
@@whatsgoodfam772 on the same level as Scream 5 dude.
@@abrimfulofasha dang that sucks I also heard movies coming out in January usually suck
I’d give the movie a 5/10 myself. A lot bothered me, I can be nitpicky at times, but Scream is one of my all time favorite movies so what follows has a lot to live up to.
Sidney had no reason to go back. If Dewey’s death was just to get her back to Woodsboro, then it’s a pointless one. She’s married with two young children. Her priorities are with them. He calls her and she doesn’t even know it’s him, meaning she doesn’t even have his contact info saved on her phone. But she goes back when he dies to put her life in danger and possibly leave her children motherless. It’s insane.
Also, did they give Stu a sister? Vince is her son, his nephew, I think… it’s a quick one-line reveal I missed. And he just so happened to have a fling with a member of the friend group the summer prior. I like Kyle Gallner as Vince. He was a menacing presence but his character does nothing and could have been removed and not made a difference.
Also, Kirby is alive somehow. There’s an Easter egg hidden in there, I believe.
I get that Billy is a killer, but after seeing how adultery ended his parents’ marriage, would he be the kind to cheat?
I wish they made Billy the older, father figure version he could’ve been rather than the killer version he was in Sam’s hallucinations.
That also would’ve saved us from the de-aged CGI ghoul we got.
And Chad. He suffers a gash to his leg I thought cut through an artery. It basically incapacitated him after two steps. But sitting out there for five hours without aid and he’s good.
Mindy disappears after Amber shoots Liv. And they never mention her. She should’ve been the one to kill Amber IMO. A little justice served by Randy’s niece because he himself was never given the opportunity.
Amber should’ve revealed herself in the basement walking up the steps behind Mindy by stabbing her in the back. Especially after their back and forth dialogue about being the killer. It would’ve impacted harder, I think.
You seem to have missed the part where Sydney tells Sam that you can’t out run it. She went back because she knew her family was in danger and the only way to save them was to kill whoever was doing this because she knew they would target her and her family next. It’s always revolved around Sydney so she really didn’t have a choice. Also being a celebrity as she is I’m sure it wouldn’t have been hard to find her address.
@@randallrohr623 she absolutely had a choice and it was absolutely the wrong choice. She’s not responsible for stopping every Ghostface killer, especially when she’s not even in Woodsboro. She’s not law enforcement, she’s a target and potential victim. She should keep her and her children safe from a very far distance. Her decision to leave her family behind to put herself in danger makes zero sense. I would love to see that conversation between her and her husband. I imagine he’d say something like, “This is insane. You have no family there. We’re all right here. The only thing Woodsboro has to offer is death. I think your friend has proven that. There’s nothing you can do but be another target for this asshole. If you leave us for this, we won’t be here when you get back. I won’t put our girls through this.” Or something like that
@@aaronmckee1698 Dude, look at Scream 3. She was basically in witness protection and the killer found her. There's no telling who could have tracked her down this time and she wasn't exactly living in secret so she could easily be discovered. Chances are, the killers could have tracked her down and why live with that burden over her head at if she were to just stay put? She needed to confront them and make sure they were gone because chances are, there likely won't be any other killers to do this yet a sixth time. Stop being stupid about this just because you felt there was no need for her to be in the story when she had every right to be in the story. She didn't even play a big role which shows her involvement is winding down now, so you can at least be satisfied with that. Also, Sidney went ALONE, she didn't bring her family with her so at least they would have been fine, even if she didn't make it out alive.
@@devontehuntley6274 Of course the killer found her in Scream 3. It’s called a script. Him finding her is necessary to the plot moving forward. That’s what they call plot convenience. But how did he find her?
Even Kincaide couldn’t find her and he’s In law enforcement with unlimited resources. So how did Roman find her? How did he track down Maureen? They don’t tell you because they don’t know how he did it. They needed it to happen so they made it happen. It’s really that simple. He also just managed to track down the phone number of where she worked, there’s nothing to suggest he knew where she lived…
Sidney had a right to be in the story, of course, but there’s no purpose for her to be there. She’s not related to anyone. She doesn’t live there. She has a family of her own to look after. Would you leave your wife and children behind to throw yourself in the middle of a killing spree? How would your wife feel about it? Sidney going to Woodsboro in this movie as it’s written makes her a bad wife and a terrible mother. As for her going to Woodsboro instead of waiting for killers to find her, that’s doing all the work for them. And if you think they’re trying to lure you out of hiding, that means they can’t find you and if you going to them is what they want to carry out their plan, maybe don’t go. But that’s me
Also, No reason to name call. Relax.
@@aaronmckee1698 Excuse me, the script means nothing given we're talking about within the story, not how it had to be structured to play the movie out. You're not about to go there. The point is, Sidney was HIDING and was discovered. So why would she take the chance to just live her life full as day without a low profile when she was just told there was another killer on the loose doing the same crap? I'd be hunting them down too and given that she stopped like FIVE of them in the past beforehand, she's armed and capable. It's not about her being related to anyone, but she's a legacy character, the main survivor, the IT girl, the girl even her cousin tried to be as famous as, so she had some special purpose here. You're looking at this all the wrong way to just excuse her not being in the story and it's not going to work. Sidney came and did what she does best and now she can rest at night feeling as though it's finally over. She did better work than any police office or FBI agent ever could and that you can give her props for. Now sit down and stop being a clown about this you Sidney involvement HATER. I'm about to pull her out of the Scream world and come track you down. Would you have preferred if they brought the Woodsboro killer to HER area, that way she's not technically trying to get involved. WOULD THAT HAVE WORKED FOR YOU?
I’m glad I’m not the only fan who felt that this movie was deeply flawed. I felt bad reading everyone’s rave reviews when I felt that it was just ok. They set up so many great moments but ultimately those moments fell flat to me. Like squandered opportunities. There was a great movie there, it just never emerged.
I feel like it's only realistic for the legacy characters to be sidelined the way they were. No one's trying to kill Sidney anymore and if they were anymore involved than they were, this would've been silly. Dewey was the ONLY reason Gale and Sid even came back which makes sense, come on. This movie showed me that Scream can actually stand on it's feet without them and it shocked the shit out of me. As far as the new cast, the TWINS were money. Loved them. They will be classics. I do say this with respect, i just feel like you're holding on to the past films and not allowing this franchise to evolve. Sorry.
@Zinta Foxana & The Painted Shadows Yes 👏🏾👏🏾
Nope! Wrong! The twins were annoying... especially the jock brother! Please psychos would love to take down Sidney.... It cant stand on its feet... the only reason fans were excited were because of the legacy characters, which didnt get enough to do in this... but you are young... and think ooh lets have some SJW on here! bye!
@@lalareal180 I'm not wrong about anything. Speak for yourself. I said what I said.
Sidney coming back so that they could kill her and blame it on Sam was all apart of the plan though..
So they were, in fact, trying to kill Sidney again lol.
I mean, it was an honour to claim Dewey’s life, so it’s not out of the question for the killer. My attention looks more at how Sidney is a mother now, and cared more for Jill than she did for Sam. Maybe it was a matter of trust, but that’s weak considering the theme of the movie practically blames Sidney and the success she’s created for the franchise. They really seemed to just cheese the cameos but otherwise I enjoyed it.
I was disappointed too. I wasn't expecting it to be as good without Wes craven. But since Willamson was involved I think it would hold up among the previous 4. It's hard to explain but I felt the other four had much more to say about horror, film industry etc and the 5th didn't had much to say.
Stu’s house could’ve been as iconic to this franchise as the Myers house is to the Halloween franchise.
Imagine it 25 years after Billy and Stu’s massacre, stood in disrepair. Stu’s parents unwilling to sell it due to it being their family home with so many happy memories of Stu growing there as a child. They can no longer live there because of the pain of what happened there. Windows boarded, tired looking walls, overgrown lawn. It’s prominence grown by local lore over the years.
The residents of Woodsboro want it torn down as it brings shame to their community. The people who live there have turned their back on what brought there town infamy after 2 bloody ghostface massacres in 15 years. One inspired by the other.
The perfect stage for a final showdown.
Add Stu to the mix, but have him NOT be ghostface. Released from prison/medical facility after serving 25 years would make one hell of a movie IMO.
I really really wanted to love this movie and finally saw it, left feeling like hey that was fun? (first Scream I got to see in a theater) but the more I dwell on everything I just feel like it was disappointing and couldve been so much better. I watched the others leading up to the release and they were wayyyy better with pacing, characters, and suspense. I don't know if it's just me having a connection to the movies from childhood making me more biased but even 4 was way more solid and fun of a film compared to 5. And seeing everyone rave saying this is perfect amazing and the best sequel but I'm not even inclined to go back for a rewatch in theaters because of how meh it ended up being.
Honestly, I don’t get why people dont like the motives in 4 and 5 .. I think as far as a motive for the killers, they are the best ones, because they the meta social commentary that is specific for the times.. 4 - the rise of the influencer era, 5 - the toxic and never satisfied fandom .. I’m surprised people find this the weaker part pf the movies, whereas I love how creative they were with it.. the only thing I didn’t like about the movie was the lack of personality in Sydney.. I love Neve but it felt she was there for a paycheck, maybe it was the writing, but sooo much could have been done with her character even with a smaller screen time.. also I think it would have been better if they killed off Sam and it turned out that Tara becomes the main girl for future installments.. because Jenna is a much better actress than Melissa and I think she can carry the franchise and have a great development
Jill's motive in 4 is my favorite. People dislike that?
This movie wasn’t about the original cast. It was about the new kids.
It was basically SCREAM 4!!! I thought scream 4 was wayy better it just came out two years too early for the times.
The scenes with billy showing up was such a WTF!!??
It was like a netflix series made into a film.
How was it like Scream 4?
I was thinking it was impossible to do worst than Scream 4 and then, Scream 2022! No chase scenes, except Chad's small one. Most of them opened a door or closed a door, get stabbed, died. No character development. A terrible new final girl. Bad acting. No humor. Dumb motives. No atmosphere. Bad decor (Tara's house from the outside... Oh God!). Terrible opening scene. A very melodramatic vibe for the first part of the movie. And the cherry on the top: useless Billy's apparition. Poor Wes, poor us... real fans
Billy's motivation was based on thé consequences of his father having An affair, and now they Tell us he was cheating himself? It just doesn't make sense
Well to be fair (not saying he was justified but to make some sense of why he cheated) Sid was holding out on him after her mother died, I’m guessing it’s possible the cheating happened after the killing of Maureen Prescott and Sidney couldn’t have sex with Billy at that time so Billy cheated
@@ChevonJBenzo valid Point. Or maybe he did it to show his contempt for Sidney. But still, it would have worked better if they had given more background, as it is a stretch from thé Billy we knew
Loved the movie and everything about it. If I had to point out some cons for me, I'd say the pacing towards the third act was too fast. I feel they could've added more before act 3. I also feel they could've developed other characters more. Such as Liv and Vince. We didn't see too much of them and it's obvious they had history. Vince was killed too quick and Liv didn't really give me what I needed to click with her before her death. The killer reveal wasn't a big letdown for me. I just felt it was kinda predictable. It was obvious Ritchie was gonna be the killer, but the other killer I thought it'd be Mindy, Chad, Tara or even Liv and Amber. Low and behold, it's Amber. Wish I could've seen more of Sidney and Gale, but I understand why they were pushed to the side a bit. Gives room for the new character and their stories. Overall, besides those cons, there's many pros that make the movie spectacular imo.
I can just about agree with everything you said. To me Scream 4 was the perfect setup to “pass the torch” and had Wes Craven not passed away that probably would have happened. That cast was way more interesting than this one. Personally I felt like the casting of Sam was not good, like, at all. The performance for Sam came off very soap-opera-y where it was so over acted that it made what should have been impacting scenes almost comedic. Perhaps if Jenna Ortega instead had portrayed Sam instead of Tara this may have changed things for the better because she seemed to understand the tone of this world better. I too have issue with the motivation of the killers. Coming off of Jill’s motivations for Scream 4 (which I still think was so ahead of it’s time it’s not even funny) I found Scream 5’s to be a bit of a let down. Crazy fans wanting to “reset” the franchise just doesn’t have the same impact and more importantly has just about zero connection to Sidney since ultimately their issue is with the Stab franchise and not actually the occurrences of Woodsboro so like, who cares? There was essentially nothing at stake for going in this direction. I personally wanted Sam to be Sidney’s daughter too which would have given us that connection making Sam’s decision of what path to take all the more conflicting. I mean they don’t even mention her mom so we just have to accept Billy hooked up with some random person and here’s the daughter we haven’t heard about like ever. Even in Scream 4 Sam would have been in the area right but no one is aware he has a daughter growing up in Woodsboro? They could have at least made Jack Quaids character Stu’s son, then this would have brought things full circle and given some connection to Sidney for him wanting to avenge Stu’s death.
There just seemed to be a lot of missed opportunities where even though there was reference to the past, none of those connections seem to actually matter or lead to anything when the actual killers just ended up being random fans of Stab. Again, who cares? And the extra Stab scenes shown with the “Randy” character, like why? Totally generic.
Mickey being a super-fan of film had a much more interesting motive than this in Scream 2. One of the killers at least should have had some direct connection to Sidney which at least would have strengthened the motive.
Though I agree this one was a bit more brutal technically (which isn’t really necessary for a Scream film but whatever) I actually think this was Ghostface’s worst representation in terms of his abilities because it seemed like every two seconds he was getting his butt kicked and people were surviving left and right. Especially in the first scene, I just felt like “Omg this Ghostface kind sucks look at this character fighting him off.” And this happened several times. One may argue “Well these killers being fans they may just be crappy at actually killing people” but it’s not like any other killers of the past were professional or anything. In fact all of the past killers except maybe Billy’s mom were fans of horror too and they had a relentless nature to them. I mean look at Charlie’s Olivia kill in 4, Mrs. Loomis’ Randy kill or freakin Roman’s Jennifer kill in 3…all of these were relentless that made you know Ghostface meant business and wasn’t playing. The Ghostface kills in 5 though violent yes, weren’t nearly as clever or creepy because he was so bad at it. And to think Dewey had survived all these past killers and dies at the hands of this crappy killing Ghostface seemed such a disservice to this character that we loved and deserved better. That he died was expected but at the hands of such a sloppy Ghostface was more cringey. I did enjoy this film too and I felt the tone was on the right track but it really fell victim to Exactly the commentary that is covered in the opening of Scream 4 where they talk about the repetitive impact of meta, there being no element of surprise, you don’t care about the characters because there’s no development etc. Scream 5 pretty much fell into all of these issues in my opinion.
I found that the kills were a bit lack lustre. Like Vince’s death was a quick jab to the neck and he was down. Wes was stabbed through the neck as well but slowly, there was no real chance scenes except Tara’s and the male twin, the killer reveals weren’t good. I wanted the mask to be torn off revealing the killer not them basically saying ‘I’m the killer’ look it was a good movie and I loved it but it had a lot of flaws. I just wish Wes was used better aside from the nice friend that dies after showering. Judy Shouldn’t have been killed off either considering there’s now no cop at all in the series (unless you count Mark who is Syd’s husband?) I just feel like they missed the mark (pun not intended) with this one. It just felt like maybe poor writing let it down? I loved the plot and how it brings in new final girls Tara and Sam but they needed to give Gale and syd more time on screen. Even a funeral scene for Dewey and have someone at the funeral get a text saying ‘do you think it’s over?’ Like we needed more than what we got idk I’m just rambling now
I actually had a theory that the killer could've been related to Casey Becker from the original film and blamed the popularity of the Stab Movies and their fans in Woodsboro for the killings that have happened since the original bloodbath. Therefore I thought the killer would commit their own bloodbath to try and taint Hollywood and the fans of the Stab franchise.
Who would have been that close to her tho? She didn't have any siblings. Maybe a relative of Steve?
@@babyfaceweeb8937 maybe she could've had a sister or brother?
Thank you for this video. Your final statement about how you were surprised to see/read all the favorable reviews is exactly my sentiment. I was not pleased with the movie at all. As you mentioned, Sidney, Gale, and Dewey could have not been in the movie and it would have been the exact same.
The line from Wes Craven about wanting to build the new characters around the legacy characters is the second main thing that this movie disrespected him. The other thing being remedied apparently by something that I didn't see. There was an interview with a survivor named Kirby mentioned. Had Scream 4 lead into a new trilogy, Craven definitely wanted Kirby to come back. At the same time, I really enjoyed the movie and where it made me cry, I respected the fact that they had the balls to kill off Dewey after they made him look like he was about to do something majorly badass.
Stop crying about Kirby. People bitch about everything
Just let the new directors do their thing. Just because wanted Kirby back doesn't mean they'll have to bring her back. Just saying.
Kirby did survive the events of Scream 4. There was a "blink and you'll miss it" moment where stab 8 was being played on TH-cam in the film and the next thumbnail is an interview with Kirby Reed
@@georgek2222 at least shes alive so ha!
@@georgek2222 ... Did you just agree with me in the form of an argument?
Jenna Ortega was phenomenal. We have to remember that from an actors POV, that scene was mostly her and a phone. It’s up there with Drew.
true
I thought it was stupid the killers kept her alive after she was able to hold her own against them
@@MetalMadness_00 they did that as bait .. they wanted her sister
@@moodforever I get that but don’t u think this would’ve been just as effective if they killed her?
@@MetalMadness_00 true .. but they were trying to redo what billy and Stu did .. so at the end of the movie Jenna took the spot as Sidney’s dad in the first scream
My favorite part: Basic Instinct vibes with Sam stabbing. I actually enjoyed watching that moment a lot! After a very dry and almost reluctant acting job by Barrera, she finally let go and came out of her shell. That might have been the intention from the beginning. Worst part: I found myself impatiently waiting for Neve Campbell to show up most of the film. This is who I came to see. I agree the trio was sidelined. As much as I didn't enjoy that, I feel that was necessary though, if the film makers intentions was to move on. But then again, why do they have too? Do they propose Sam will be the new Sidney and save the day? The only draw for the next film for me would be to see how they pull that off. Best scene: the opener! I was really drawn into Ortega and I believed what was happening and it was tense. She did an amazing performance through the whole movie I thought. Good stuff: the emotion in this movie. There hasn't really been any throughout the series. Deaths: I didn't care about anyone except Ortega and the trio. I want those feelings back I got when these were killed- Casey, Tatum, Hallie, Jennifer, Kirby. The surprise and the sadness.
If Jaime Lee can play Laurie.. are legacy characters can exist and still be relevant!
Personally, one of my favorite Scream films, but the lead actresses acting seemed incredibly dry. Originally thought she was intentionally emotionless when the news of her sister being attacked was unveiled as a hint to her being killer. Nope, just poor acting or direction.
hopefully if she returns Sam will be more like towards the end of the movie where she accepts being Billy's daughter. Im not sure if it will make her more interesting than Tara but at least it should be better
Honestly I fucking looove scream. Love all the films. Love seeing ghost face on the screen. The ONLY thing i HATED about this film was it did NO JUSTICE for the OG characters. They were on the screen for like a total of 15 fucking minutes. I wish they would have made a better way to end the OG characters story.
I would give it a much higher score myself but I do agree with most of your points. I think they should've shrunk the new cast or left the original cast (at least Sidney and Gale) out completely in order to leave time to develop the new characters more. For me, it's not the original cast that keeps me watching Scream movies, it's Ghostface. By now I just wanted to see Sidney happy already and watch Ghostface take on some new people for a change. I liked Tara the most, followed by Sam (mainly for her potential as an antiheroine in future sequels) and I liked Mindy well enough. But the others were severely underdeveloped in this one, much like the new characters in previous sequels. My only hope with that is that they left so many of these characters alive in order to make a Scream 6 where they'll get more development. As for the commentary and motives: I strongly enjoyed the toxic fandom commentary. Being a part of the star wars fandom, I could honestly see some psycho go to extreme lengths to get a 'better' movie they think they're entitled to. BUT I do think the trailer was misleading and made me think of a potentially better motive. I honestly thought someone (possibly a surprise Randy who didn't really die) was going to kill people linked to previous killers so that another Ghostface would never happen again. I was looking forward to seeing how all of the new cast was related to previous killers and I didn't really get that, and you're right, the killings seemed kinda random (especially Vince). I also realized Sam wasn't in any real danger pretty early on since the plan was to frame her as the killer. I would've liked it better if someone wanted to kill her because of a belief she'd turn out just like her father. Her acting did fall a little flat for me for the most part, but her going full Billy at the end made me excited for her future potential. I just wish I'd seen her take on more of his expressions, mannerisms, etc so the relation was more obvious and interesting throughout the movie and not just at the end.
Check out my review on my channel and let me know if you agree with any of my
points?
your last two sentences... amazingly put =]
You truly believe that people who don't like the last jedi would kill to have a better movie, in a literal sense?
I love the movie, but I am bothered that they have made "there are always two Killers" cannon. Because 3 only had one.... Unless you are a fan of thinking that Angelina was the second killer but was killed/betrayed by Roman..
Not to mention Roman, Sidney’s brother, is the TRUE ORIGINAL Ghostface who started all this by corrupting Billy into being a killer in the first place. Scream 3 I would say was just a way to wrap up Sidney’s story arc with her coming to grips with her mother being dead due to Roman and Billy. She killed both of them and avenged her mother. That film really stood out. Scream 5 just felt basic and brutal, but that’s it. I didn’t like the motivation in this one. It wasn’t bad, but it doesn’t hold up compared to the first 4 scream films. This new generation lacks the personal motivation behind their actions. It seems like this film was made just for a cash grab for the next generation for shits and giggles. That’s weak in my opinion!
@@cainbutler6291 or perhaps John Milton corrupting/taking advantage of Rina Reynolds
@@cainbutler6291 or Hollywood/America/Capitalism corrupting John Milton LOOOL
@@remedy2075 that too lol. If Milton didn’t rape Maureen, there would be no Ghostface killer PERIOD
Same. This movie didn’t feel like it was related to Scream 1-4 at all, like a completely different universe. Sams acting was baffling. I’ve never been completely taken out of a movie from such bad acting before. No memorable set locations. Just all around disappointed. I was gutted walking out of that theatre. I also didn’t feel like I was there, I felt like I was in EVERYBODYS FACE the whole damn movie. What the hell were they thinking? Also..Billy?? Decent idea but absolutely terrible execution. He looked weird as hell and everything he said in the hallucinations was just cringe...
Tara, Mindy, Chad, and Liv were enjoyable. But like I said, Sam ruined most of the movie for me... The kills were good. GF was quick and violent. That’s about it for me.
I would honestly be totally fine if I never saw it again. It wasn’t as big of a disappointment as Halloween kills... but it’s close.
There was a huge memorable set location. The return to Stu’s house was epic.
@@austin-tyler5229 Stus house was there for the sake of being there. And personally, I couldn’t even tell it was stus house because the entire movie was one massive closeup
I agree about Sam. And I hate saying that. And I’m no expert - but even I could tell the acting was off.
@@davidallenconnects Yea I’m definitely not an expert either and I’ve literally never complained about terrible acting until Halloween Kills and Scream 5.
@@RyDawg918 it looked exactly like Stu's house lol
I feel like the legacy cast definitely wasn't used enough.. Gale and Sydney felt rushed and I'm sorry the performances did NOT fall into their characters. I also felt like there was a huge lack of character development.
They gave away too much in the trailer. The movie was actually made with Stu‘s house being a big REVEAL… But instead, they told the audience beforehand, 100 times, by even including a “come stay at the scream House“ PR campaign…
I respect your opinion but I really liked the new cast and how they were handled. You compared this to Halloween, but I feel like that doesn't hold up. Michael is basically supernatural, and obsessed with killing Laurie. With Scream, for the franchise to continue to focus on the legacy cast they'd have to keep coming up with new reasons for new psychos to don the Ghostface costume and go after Sidney forever. It's just not sustainable for making more movies. I'd like a new trilogy following Sam and Tara, with Sidney and Gale popping in every now and then but not being so involved.
How can you like the new cast? Seriously? They were annoying, didnt seem to care if a friend was killed... they were annoying!
@@lalareal180 Repetitive crime intoxication. Anyone who lives in a place like Woodsbro with a killer legacy. They know they may lost their lives and their friends and mostly they would be helpless. Similar to media intoxication, this impact people to be less emotive and reactive.
An extreme example in this movie, I would argue is Liv. Because while the rest of the others are ready to take precautions and embraces the fact that they too are under doubt(respecting other's doubt on them), Liv couldn't just stand her boyfriend and friends taking precautions on her. That was a stupid mindset in such a deadly situation. But guess what, even such a response is not impossible in some scenarios
Sorry but the movie had a lot of things that really did make sense. Maybe you should rewatch it.
yeah some people smoking some hard stuff. Maybe they watched Scary Movie 1 instead
Everyone needs to re analyze Dewey's death scene. He's attacked in the hospital where there's access to blood , operating rooms and doctors. We see a deputy who is killed. There's an ambulance and coroner van outside. We don't see who's in the body bag. We don't see the name on the body bag tag. When Sydney arrives Gale is still in the hospital after Dewey's "Death" They never actually say Dewey' dead. Judy dies which now leaves no sheriff and I'm pretty sure Radio silence would expect a backlash killing a legacy cast member. They always keep us on edge when it comes to Dewey and at the end Sam asks Gale how's she's doing Gale responds, "Ask me in a couple of days." Also if they kill a legacy cast member I think they would of at least gave Dewey a memorial service
David said in the q+a that Dewey is dead.
They did a fan q+a at some of the Thursday screenings
You’re so right. Even if David says Dewey is dead he could be lying to not spoil anything. It would be a clever way. I also did think that it was not 100 percent clear that he’s dead. And I am kind of sure they did this on purpose.
@@robertprice4826 Any links to this q&a
@@christie368 no. It was a livestream at some films
@@robertprice4826 Ah ok Thanks.
Let’s be real- a lot of the disappointment is due to the fact that movies get over exposed on the internet nowadays. Would have worked in 2010 or something.
The writing let this down. From many characters hardly being in this,before they were killed,not killed or revealed as a killer. While the other killer was so predictable, because the writer's gave way too many clues.
A main characters backstory,and a cameo appearance surrounding it,was the best aspect of this.
Overall a missed opportunity.
i disagree
Spoilers for the movie!
Finally, an honest review. All the other reviews just seemed like they were lying to make the movie money, like with "scariest movie in the franchise" and "almost better then the original". For me it didn't feel like a Scream movie, it was way to fast, they threw away a lot of the characters for the sake of nothing at all. The main 3 came in way to last. Dewey's death was left for nothing with only 2 scenes of Gale being sad, Sidney not even showing an expression, and Gale moving on just too fast. I couldn't feel any emotion because of that, and the way he died.
I appreciate the Wes stuff, but don't bring back Judy and give her a son to just kill them off for a 5 second banner, they could have named Wes something else and named someone else that, or they could have just not given Judy a son. (Did Wes want to be killed in a movie or something? I get he was a horror director but I don't think he would like to die in a movie.)
I really liked Sam and Tara though, I feel like they took away the movie. With Sam I feel like the whole movie it was getting to the point of her murdering someone. I really think she might go to the killer side in Scream 6. Tara was amazing, I don't have much to say about her right now except I loved her relationship with Sam.
To many references. References took away from scenes we could have got in my opinion. We keep seeing Richie watching Netflix and TH-cam when those scenes could have been switched with other characters.
There's no horror in this movie, except for the opening scene. For me the whole movie was full of references and dumb comedy that wasn't funny. Even Wes's scene was more funny then scary. Or more sad. Not even the 3rd act was scary.
That's all I can say, good honest review though.
The end was too generous with survivors. It was like Oprah was saying “you get to survive! and you get to survive!”
When we only cared if Sidney, Dewey, Gale, Tara and Sam survived.
Dewey of course didn’t since the trailers made it obvious he wouldn’t.
well if they wanna continue to make movies they need a cast to set the foundation? Sam, Tara, Chad, and Mindy are 4 they can use without needing to rely on Sid or Gale. Scream 1 had 4 survivors as well so I don’t see how it’s “too many”
I just saw the movie in the theater.
A lot of mixed feelings but I don't want to comment or review it just yet.
One thing I will say and which I'm very sad about is that there isn't a single chase scene. Like a good Helen Shivers from IKWYDLS or Casey from the original. I really wanted atlest one intense long chase scene.
Victim is basically dead before they even know Ghostface is there in this one. Wes showed what you can do with a chase scene in a single room with Tatum in the garage and make it exciting. There’s none of that in this movie, which is so bizarre because Ready Or Not is basically one giant chase scene…
My Scream ranking Top 5
1. Scream (1996)
2. Scream 2
3. Scream 4
4. Scream 3
5. Scream (2022)
Scream 3 is definitely better than 4. Without Roman’s Ghostface there’s no Ghostface or Scream movies. He don’t get enough credit. Jill’s motivation for fame was stupid. Not to mention roman is Sidney’s brother and he’s the one who corrupted Billy into becoming a killer in the first place. Gave him advice and taught him how to be a skilled killer. Let’s put respect on the man’s name for his charisma. The guy was a one man army in the third film too. He’s the only who did it solo.
@@cainbutler6291 Jill's motivation was not stupid and it was completely prescient and relevant to even today, and it was a lot more believable than the retcon to make Roman the mastermind which was just completely silly.
Thank You! I was quite disappointed in it as well. That's only my opinion as I'm an old school fan of the 1st and 2nd Scream movie.
Same, dudette.
Why I think the movie was real good I liked everything in the movie 🎥
I thought Scream 2022 was decent, but I had many of the same issues you pointed out. For me, it had sort of the opposite problem of Scream 4. In the 4th one, I thought the first two thirds of the movie were kind of so/so, but the third act and killer reveal really saved the movie from being forgettable. Scream 5, on the other hand, was relatively strong up until the end, but the killers and their motive kind of ruined it. It wasn't the motive per se, but more that it seemed disconnected with the Ghostface we had seen (and heard on the phone) up to that point. The killings seemed angry and personal, so I had a hard time buying that the killers actually had no beef with the victims and just wanted to create source material for a new Stab movie. I also agree about most of the supporting characters being underdeveloped, and I was bummed that Gale and Dewey didn't have more scenes together. I thought Judy and Wes really sold the mother-son dynamic for the few scenes they had, but pretty much everyone other than Sam and Tara was forgettable. I hope they come out with an extended cut that has more character development for the supporting characters.
This movie was hands down the worst of the series. The music was odd, the characters weren’t interesting, the story was too convoluted, had ridiculous CGI, the killers had weak motivation, the short and tall heights of the revealed killers made no sense, and the actors all blended together and you didn’t really care about them, and the suspense was severely lacking. Sam wasn’t a great main character either.
Don’t agree? Watch the first one and then watch this one again back to back. The feeling is just totally different. It’s bad. Really bad. Dare I say…Disrespectfully bad.
I agree with you. Wasn’t bad but could have been sooo much better. The potential was there. My biggest gripes with it were the characters, the killers motive, and and the lack of screen time by the OG cast.
I literally didn’t care about any of the new characters other than tara. Jenna Ortega was brilliant in the movie.
As for the motive, it felt lazy. I would have much preferred that the lead was not related to billy and that the killer was instead related to billy. This person learned about what happened to billy, is obviously crazy as well. Then have Tara and Sam related to Sidney somehow. That way, the motive is for the killer to get sid, tara, and Sam all back at the original house and to finish what billy couldn’t. The whole we thought these movie endings sucked so we want to write a better one was just a lame excuse to kill.
Also not having the OG cast in it more was a sad. I felt misled there for sure. Having Tara be attacked in the beginning (and if they went with the arch that her and Sam are related to Sid) then Sidney obviously would have shown up earlier in the film and had a chance to actually have scenes with Dewey.
Again I enjoyed the movie but it left me with a lot of “I wish they did this instead”
I actually like the idea of sam bein Billy kid. And u might be right if they make a trilogy maybe they can do sumthing like that.
they already had a killer in a sequel who was related to billy. Doing that again would have been lazy recycling.
I loved it! Only complaint is the teenagers ages were really inconsistent… Some actually looked like realistic 17/18-year-olds and others looked clearly 25… If you are going to cast older people as teenagers they need to all be older or cast all younger people because it was confusing and they didn’t all look to be in the same grade. But I honestly really enjoy this film, it was exciting, impactful, loved the callbacks and the ghostface reveals surprised me. I very much think it lived up to the first couple films.
I completely agree with all your points. I felt off when the credits started to roll. Another complaint I have is WHERE WERE THE CHASE SCENES?!?! For me, this felt more like a Scream fan-film than an actual Scream sequel. The Easter eggs were great, but everything else was lackluster in my opinion.
Great critique. You nailed it. The characters/actors in the new film are terrible. I recently watched the MTV series Scream. This is where they pulled these characters from. Vapid, vain, narcissistic characters that don't appear disturbed, sad, or shocked by the deaths around them. They are more concerned with the petty issues in their lives. They are more concerned about their appearance and having toxic relationships. WTF? There is an episode where the male characters put a drunk, passed-out partygoer on a boat and stick him in the middle of the lake, late at night. Forget the killer, what if he rolled over and tipped the boat? No one cares. Considering the killer, why would these kids do that when there is a killer on the loose? Several people have already been killed up to this point, These characters, on TV and in the new Scream 2022 are Unlikable people. Like the Walking Dead, they killed off all the great, interesting characters for boring, lifeless characters we don't like. It's all about gender and race than writing interesting, 3-dimensional, complex characters that we care about. The writers pretend that having a lesbian character is good enough and having any depth is not important. What's important is will she overcome the bias of other school kids? Will she find true love in a biased world? Yes- in 2022, it appears that homophobic behavior is rampant in schools and society. This show is out of touch with reality. Lesbian characters are fine- but give us more to the character. After 6 episodes I gave up. I didn't care about these horrible people. They should be getting together to discuss how they are going to stop the killer. No. It's as if the killings are a natural part of life so they deal with it with a shrug like everything else.
Hollywood: Write good characters. Write a good, original story. In fact, approach the new script like this: If it's been done in the previous films: don't put it in your script. Avoid cliches, and don't remake the original and disguise it as something new. Make something new. You've had 10 years since the last film to get it right. How about leaving clues, making it look like Sindey and Gail are the killers, Have the killer show himself to Dewey. The killer leaves and Dewey writes the Letters S... and I... in the blood pooling around his body. This creates suspicion and has people's minds reeling. Was it S I dney? Did she finally crack? Is Gail helping her? What's her motive? She has lost her audience. A new book will make her famous again. Is this a red herring, or are they the culprits? How about someone kills the killer at the end of the 2nd act? The following day, when everyone is feeling safe, the one who killed the killer is killed, and people realize there are more than two killers, or someone was mistaken for the killer and killed by mistake. Again, you have the audience thinking. In the 3rd act, it is discovered there were originally 3 killers, and two were twins. (There are several horror films made in the past with a killer siblings trope). They could have also called out or poked fun of how the killer's monolog explains this and that and why this and why that, and too much for their own good, and all the monologuing is pointless because the bad guys have the upper hand and all they have to do is shoot the victims, but no, they keep on talking. This is what ultimately gets the bad guys killed. I'm not even a screenwriter and I got better ideas than the new scream.
Yeah I thought the movie was boring. The only good scene was the death scene of Judy Hicks (which the race home kinda felt like Scream 3's opening anyway, so even that wasn't original lol).
Sorry to disagree - but I didnt think Dewey's death scene was that great. Think of it this way - if that death scene were a different character instead of Dewey, would you still think it's a good scene??
My ranking of the Scream movies from best to worst:
1) SCREAM 1 (BEST)
2) SCREAM 2
3) SCREAM 4
4) SCREAM 3
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5) SCREAM 5 (WORST).
That's a perfect ranking IMO
Scream 5 is bad
@@Logan-dn6uv Yes, it was. It really hurts the presence of Ghost Face knowing THOSE two pansy-a** clowns are supposedly wearing the costume. Then the heroes are not relatable. They're hardly likeable. I don't even remember their character names... outside of "the twins"
I loved the movie and respect your opinion, of course. When Skeet Ulrich appeared I got so excited. I think no one was expecting. Also, Dewey's death was brutal with Ghostface kicking his body like a Mortal Kombat's fatality was cruel but necessary.
Jack Quaid's acting was awesome, funny and interesting at the same time. I didn't expect that the writers were going to just repeat the boyfriend killer so it was kind of surprising. Amber was more obvious and I guess she could have had a better motive (e.g. being in love with Tara).
Glad that we saw Martha Meeks, and that Chad and Mindy survived, I really liked Mindy.
Loved the meta dialogues and all the references to the original.
KIRBY'S ALIVE!
Judy could have had more screentime and I missed the epic chase scenes from Scream 2. So, Scream 2022 for me it's 4/5
My ranking:
1.Scream (1996)
2.Scream (2022)
3.Scream 2
4.Scream 4
5.Scream 3
@cindy anally wisconsin when Richie (Jack Quaid's character) was watching a TH-cam video about Stab 8, there is a video being suggested to the right of the laptop's screen that says "Interview with survivor Kirby Reed"
What I really missed was a chase scene! Scream 4 did the same … barely (if any) actual chase scenes! Ghost face just pops up for a jump scare and stabs. I got so bored of it :(
Im with you on this opinion. Something that kept bugging me was the film trying to convince US that Amber a small sized girl was able to over Power and kill these people. In some scenes she even was taller than Dewey and Wes...? Yea it didnt convince me and the more it played in my mind after watching the film it kept ticking me.
Also the way she was able to kill that big ass cop in the hospital before going for Tara.
Y'all really act like shoe lifts don't exist.
@@babyfaceweeb8937 Shoe lifts work for a couple inches, not an entire foot.
@@abparry5159 in scream 4 5'6 Rory culkin kills everyone yet the killer always looks over 6'0. It is what it is.
@@bondjones9093 yeah that's why Scream 4 sucked cos the casting was awful.