Jim Cornette on Shane McMahon Being Let Go From WWE
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- From Episode 417 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Shane being pissed at his dad because he won't be handed the company he loves and always thought he would have sounds like an amazing storyline. They oughta go with that
In the attitude Era he cut a promo on his dad talking about that and how Vince would put Shane aside over Stephanie.
It would make a lot of sense to bring back that, but that's why they won't do it.
@@carloscjr23 they can't because it already came true. Art imitates life. They have to manifest something else and deliver it perfectly.
They already have. Shane doesn't get control of WWE so buys wcw to compete! Remember that story line dummy
My sentiments exactly, Steven.
@maryheim-hancock8625 well that wasn't the story line. He just hated his dad and he signed the contract before Vince could. Then Vince got mad and pooped on Linda's head.
I love hearing this stuff. I haven't actually watched wrestling since the late 90s but for some reason, in the past few months I've started listening to stories about pro wrestling and it captivates me for a few hours every week. Cheers friends.
Your not the only one, friend. I’m 38 and have t watched since 97-98. About 3 years ago I started listening to a lot of old stories and I love them. I got through ebbs and flows with it. I’ll listen to wrestling content for a cpl months then won’t listen for 6 or 7 and I circle back and the cycle continues
Same
Same. Cornette has been funnie as hell lately. I hated him when I was a kid but now that I'm older I realize it's cuz he did a good job
Check out wrestling bios, currently doing a rembering the war between wwe and wcw series.
Yeah agree i watched wcw and wwf from 97 to 2001 and it’s amazing to hear all the Shit that went on in the back ground or hear the rest of the stories!!
There goes the money 🎶🎵…
Best comment, and I bow down.
Dolla, Dolla, Dolla, Dolla
😂😂😂
Wow
There it goes... Money walks.
Shane worked in the Attitude Era because he was proving something to the fans, the boys in the back, and to Vince. Gray-haired Shane just doesn't say "boss's son" the way it used to.
I remember my Best friend came into my to go room at outback steakhouse and said look at table 11 tell me it's not Shane McMahon. He didn't wanna ask, but I couldn't resist. Shane said he wasn't Shane McMahon so we brushed it off. After his party finished their meal they exited through the togo office handed me a hundred $ tip(I was not his server) when he exited he did the Shane McMahon shuffle. I lost my mind!!
Cappppp
liar. Shane would not be caught dead at an outback
I wanna believe this story so much
This sounds like Shane. I used to work at his condo building in downtown Manhattan a few years back. Shane was a super generous tipper and the staff loved him. He was always cool as fuck to us.
What the hell is a to go room?
Jim commenting on the stories around wrestling are my favourite thing now, even more so than the wrestling event reviews. Ratings, hirings and firings etc
This nigga wild lmao
Jim Cornette just might be the greatest storyteller in all of wrestling.
Agreed
Me too I don't watch it anymore I just like listening to Jim talk about it.
Jim IS wrestling now.
He's old now. The charm is LONG gone. Sorry Shane.
Seeing him go toe to toe with main eventers while throwing those goofy looking jabs is funny for all the wrong reasons.
He’s the same age right now that Vince was when he first started feuding with Austin
@B W Yeah I see him going around beating guys like Reigns,Lashley,Lesnar. He really is going around beating guys like when he jobbed for AJ,Owens,Braun,etc. I'm seriously confused as to how he's being pushed as a main eventer when he's losing all his matches outside of the match at Mania 35 against The Miz. No one but Lesnar was a star in that match and he didn't even hit Lesnar once so what's the problem? Is it because he eliminated fat ass Owen's who's the lowest drawing champion ever?
I can't stand Shane. The first Crown Jewel pay per view was horrendous and he was a big reason why.
Of all the things people say, and can say, about the McMahons, Shane was a serious performer and a big role in the attitude era. He was genuine about the business and genuine about wanting to do a good job. He could work, he could bump, and he was willing to do whatever. But that was 90s Shane McMahon. In 202x, he still has that history and he still has his boxing background (he has a legitimate boxing background a lot don’t know about. Watch his early matches to see him hit stiff) but he’s older and not as conditioned, and is hard to portray as a guy with legitimate chops against a real striker
Yup
To quote Good Ol' JR....."He's been taken to the Out House and flushed down the toilet." Circa WWF Attitude Era 🤣🤣🤣
When did JR ever say that?
@@sheepdavis During the attitude era. Might not have been the exact quote but he would always say wood shed, out house etc etc.
Never heard JR say that, but that's a so JR quote lol
@@GameTime-yj6qv Yeah he never said it in that context but he had some similar quotes back in the day lol.
@Justin Christopher 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Classic JR right there.
Shane O Mac & Jim Cornette on Sunday Night Heat doing commentary was pure fire 🔥
Shane was horrible on commentary
@@pens87668 Really why do you know who’s good in coming to was Jerry the king Jim Ross Jim Cornett bobby Heenan and most of all Paul Heyman, on my opinion I never heard Shane McMahon in commentary I would love to hear it🥰, oh yeah I’m never going to forget him Joey styles from ECW he was a great commentary 🥰💕
@@pens87668 “Ooohh” “OW” “SLAMMAGE!” 😆 Shane’s commentary was a trip
off the ropes
yeah a dumpster fire
Jim mentioning the Mean Street Posse reminded me how much I liked their entrance theme. Although listening to it now it sounds more like they should've been from Kingston, Jamaica, than Greenwich, Connecticut..
Jim is right, the story says that this was not a real firing of Shane, just letting him go briefly and once the air clears from the Rumble, they will invite him back.
I have a feeling it goes a little deeper then that, every backstage report coming from it said shane was very frustrated and focused on himself. I hope he never does and doubt well ever see him wrestle again
If Shane goes to AEW he is a company mole and this whole thing is a work.
@@phillipsnichole2857 Lmaoo shane mcmahon vs darby in a scaffold match.
I think it’s time for Shane to start his own company.
@@Mclovinit8171 it’s funny that you actually believe stuff coming from the wwe side of things lol
This is further evidence for my belief that Vince is planning on pushing Shane and Triple H out of WWE and is going to adopt Nick Khan as his son and when Vince steps down, Nick McMahon will be the new owner of the WWE.
John Laurinaitis: good seeing you back, Shane
Shane McMahon: Thanks, man. It’s good to be back and spend some time with my dad
Nick Khan: our dad
Shane McMahon: what
Lil' Nicky Mc
And king of the ring
He already adopted R-Truth since Vince and R-Truth have a tight relationship. Just read reports about them and photos. No wonder R-Truth has not been released.
Vince will never forgive Hunter for banging his secret true love
Corn Street Posse
Stan and Bobby gass…Joey Condrey?..🤔
That's a bit corny..
Triple H knows his days are numbered. If Vince can let Shane go, Triple H better have a backup plan.
Lolololololol
I usually take these things with a grain of salt but there was an AMA with an anonymous AEW wrestler on 4chan in January (I don't use that site but I've heard some of the posts) and honestly, I think it might have been legit as some of the stuff he was saying appeared to stack up (he said he'd heard Samoa Joe had been released again....a day before it was publicly announced....). He also said he'd heard through the grapevine from some of the old NXT talent that there's a VERY real possibility that HHH is a free agent sooner rather than later and that the seemingly sudden and hostile takeover (no pun intended) of NXT is absolutely as reported, a direct shot at him. Again, grain of salt but very interesting nonetheless....
@@jjthecat9692 But his wife is basically second in command in WWE. I question how that could work. Those would be some pretty awkward dinners after work every night.
@@JaySports644 Is she though? She's been unusually quiet as of late which I guess is somewhat understandable given her husbands health but still....it appears that having the McMahon name doesn't have the same sway that it has done in the past. Make no bones about it, this is Nick Khans WWE now.
Triple Shit needs to go
Shane should fire Vince to be honest 😆
Vince needs to go, he is running the company down the toilet
Shane's Grandmother passed away about a week before the Rumble. I think she was 101 years but maybe that affected him.
Scary part about that is Vince could still be running WWE until he’s 100 around 30 years from now
Maybe he should stop the roids and GH. He's as red as Yoko's tights.
@@rofbagging9749 If you've seen Vince lately, he'll be lucky to make next year's Rumble before he hits the century mark.
@@TRoller927 Vince looks like an animatronic character from Showbiz Pizza that has melted from too much lack of care.
@@rofbagging9749 he may out live us!
I’m actually a fan of this. I don’t want him on television anymore. When he was young and hitting all those insane, athletic spots, it was novel. But now we’re supposed to buy that this dude is on the same level as Taker and other main eventers despite being a non wrestler, and in his 50’s.
Why not? Vince did it himself for over 20 years. Wearing dress pants, shoes, and a tank top to show off his steroid physique. The apple doesn’t fall far from the Vince.
@@Voysh2Voysh69 And Vince got his ass whooped in most of his feuds.
I remember in the 80's when old washed up 60 year old Verne Gagne was beating up Bruiser Brody in AWA lmao. It's always funny when unrealistic things like that happen on tv.
@@fmthebaron To be fair, Gagne was a legit athlete and legit wrestler, I'd believe it out of him more than I'd believe it out of Vince Jr.
@@eastwaters4082 and? It was still a joke to watch back then like it is today. Which is the entire point. Stop putting old gray haired McMahons in matches with top talent
WWE holds young talent down and keeps bringing back old stars. The same thing they laughed at WCW for doing.
WWE is so hypocritical, it's not that they can't make new stars. They just refuse to make any, and rely only on legends
Yeah but they are usually 1 offs. But the younger guy should be going over. Like Kevin Owens should go over Stone Cold.
It’s the same thing they’ve ripped AEW for doing aswell
@@mrembustero00 I think they are not able to create new stars and have to rely on past stars.
Well it's smart. If you look at the movies that are the highest grossing recently it's movies for kids and reboots for millennials..
So, to get people in seats you'll have to go get these older millennials who grew up with the rock, dx, stone cold and Goldberg.
When a review is this long, it's always golden.
Why do Jim and Brian still take Meltzer's reporting seriously? The guy has been flat out wrong about a bunch of things and I wouldn't be surprised if someone at the WWE if deliberately feeding him fake news
Because if Meltzer says something you go with the opposite lol
It's because Last is a huge huge fan of Meltzer. He hasn't made that a secret.
Thank you. Derpy Dave is clearly just full of anti-WWE BS at this point.
You are right i heard the original plan was going to be Austin Theory vs Shane at wrestlemania think about it and look at the booking over the last few months, and Seth was never going to be champion, and they was 2 matches for the wwe belt ever Randy vs Riddle or Bobby vs Omos, what Dave said was all bullshit
@@ACDCfreak50 That friendship has since desolved.
These are the kind of segment from Jim I enjoy the most, when he tells a lot of stories of what went on in the backstage from the point of view of someone who was actually there. Much more entertaining and grounded than all of Melzer's "sources" and "scoops".
Meltzer is the worst.
It’s been said a million times in these comments, but saying Kurt Angle has never had a five star match removes all credibility he’s ever had
An entertainer is more entertaining than a journalist??? Perish the thought.
Why, exactly did Shane McMahon's face turn red during the Royal Rumble match, again?...
It's a work people. Shane is involved with other businesses and somewhat successful with them. Ideanomics is one of them
Instead of building up Shane, they didn't build up anyone.
Honestly, who came out of the men's rumble looking good?
Everyone who wasn't in it lol
Brock
Fucking looked like Randy or riddle were gonna win it for a moment
The women. Lol
Uh the main person who was supposed to win Brock. That's all they needed to look good the rest of them aren't stars anyway. Who's bad bunny anyway? Like come on what damage did Shane really do to that match?
I still love how everyone remarks on Shane's "Coast to Coast" move, always ignoring that he stole the damn move from RVD.
As though that makes it less impressive a physical feat somehow?
Ones a wrestler and one aint
@@Treklosopher Becomes less impressive the more people that do it.
Not only did he stole it he performed the move on the big stage while they never let RVD do it
@@moondogrex4627 I seem to remember RVD doing it in WWE at least once. Could be wrong though.
Shane is the best McMahon
Post WM 39: He should've stayed fired. At least his quad would still be intact 😂😂😂
Shane is in a position where his parents are getting visibly older, his dad has lost his touch, his grandmother just died, his brother-in-law is seemingly out, it looks like the company will be sold sooner rather than later, all of those emotions swirling around seemed to have made him act out of character in an attempt to preserve his family's legacy, knowing the McMahons will be out of the wrestling business within the next ten years max.
Damn!!!! You might be right.
Empathy is most of the times the right way to get proper answers, remember when Charlotte also had this kind of erratic behaviour around July 2021?
Did the McMahon make it 60 years + ?
In the wrestling sport history
THATS DEEP
I hope so. Perhaps we can see actual wrestling again
Shane risked his life jumping off a cage plenty of times for nothing. Having an overbearing dad that’s never pleased or proud of your achievements, is very sad.
You act like you know them and the true family dynamics. We don’t know shit about any of it.
Well, it is hard to impress your dad falling from cages when your dad fell off things too and he is also, you know, a billionaire.
The fact Shane is who he is precisely because Vince is a billionaire, is a sad fact that's obviously lost on Vince.
@@hankhell5663 And how do you know Vince cares about him when constantly turns down Shane's ideas but will embrace Stephanie's horrible ideas?
@@RheemQ reread my comment, that’s my point 😂
Falling from cages darn sure don't make you a good wrestler.
One thing that is irritating about Meltzer, regarding Shane taking over WWE, "...something he probably considered was his birthright". Sometimes Meltzer is like a fiction writer who can read the mind of the subjects he writes about. It is OK to speculate about McMahon's thinking but a writer needs to be very precise about injecting that speculation into coverage.
You forgot to add the ummms and likes and getting to the point 9380649 minutes later.
@@eiephants ummm ahh are u ahh sure he ummm does the because when I I'm was a kid their was never ahh umm basketballs for sale and ahhh so that why ahhh WWE ummm can't put fans in the ahhh seats.
Yeah that´s exactly what you shouldn´t do. Like when news reports say "When he left his house that morning, he never thought he would get robbed at gunpoint by 3 men". How do you know that? Maybe he had his suspicions because it´s a dangerous neighborhood or had a bad feeling about that day.
He said probably.
Yet Corny still reads his reports as part ot the show
Should make this a work and have Shane bring back WCW
to bad his dad wont let that happen
And bring back the WHC 👍🏾
If the reports are true then this is more about him pissing off the wrestlers. If he only pissed off Vince then Vince would just ignore him, but now he's getting on the bad side of the locker room. Having said that, this is Meltzer reporting it so take it with a grain of salt.
A Mcmahon is a Mcmahon after all.....if all these reports are true
My issue is that Shane hasnt had much if any bad thing said about him. Have even been praised by attitude era guys like Angle, Foley, and Edge. But now all of a sudden, a 50+ year old Shane is having a power trip and trying to make everything about him. It's a bit out of nowhere.
@@JT7Blu Yeah you have to wonder if some of this is Meltbrain writing some fanfiction on top of what really happened to make it sexier/to bury a mcmahon
Psycho Mind, I appreciate you phrasing it as "Having said that" as opposed to the usual "That being said" that is being overused to death by millenials and Gen-Z'ers. Thanks for thinking outside the box.
@@sjdrifter72 And coming from somebody who can't spell "millennials", that means so much...
They should do a reality show with Vince and Trump living together and firing everybody everyday for stupid reasons.
Backstage "unprofessionalism" is what pro wrestling is missing, it makes things interesting.
You making sense! You have to Buck against the system to make things better.. Too many yes men and not a enough stand up men..
It'll take generations for us to get back there.. The average fan today is as soft as fresh baby shit. Their sensibilities wouldn't be able to handle moments like Lesnar sending Zach Gowen a one way ticket down the stairs in a wheelchair. They reeeeeee over everything, even things they like.
@@blakejames9743 The industry was infiltrated by its enemies who began the program of mass recruitment of casual savages as the "WWE Universe" when the PG era began. Reinforced by Total Divas.
@@goodday2760 When they first brought up the "Universe" concept, I thought they'd have at least keep the quality standard they set in 2002, but with more interactivity. It was the complete opposite. Everything went to shit around the time they introduced social media and Cole wouldn't shut the hell up about them trending on Twitter. Now it's unrecognizable.
People having stressful lives and workplace conflicts, so that you could have some petty entertainment?
Just go watch some reality tv.
I mean he was competitive with Undertaker at WrestleMania in a Hell In A Cell match.... They dubbed him "the best in the world" then proceeded to have him beat up Kevin Owens, Miz, & other better/younger (by several decades) wrestlers. He was the ring leader of Raw Underground. He even roasted & demasculated Braun Strowman for a few months.
So what about the Rumble wasn't in line with how his character had been portrayed in the last few years? Of course he thought he could come in there and whoop Brock Lesnar.
WWE has no idea what they are doing anymore
@@mrembustero00 they havnt for over a decade
When Cornette said "Well, Shane is only in his early 50's, He's..." . oof. The older ya get the more shocking it is to hear your childhood heroes are *also* getting older. lol
Quite honestly, I thought he'd be much older. Cornette hasn't aged much from the 1990s.
Jim Cornette said something about Shane McMahon's face being red around 11:42-11:49.
Why, exactly did Shane McMahon's face turn red during the Royal Rumble match, again?...
Exhaustion. Couldn't keep up
@@nowwithattitude4685- That was what I thought Jim Cornette meant.
Good thing I asked.
Thanks, a lot...
"Blood is thicker than water my ass!" - Shane McMahon, probably.
*Shane then proceeds to dance his way outta headquarters*
Lol money thicker than blood
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb. So, it's actually accurate.
I read that as "blood is thicker than my ass."
Tony's dad should follow suit
I think this is an important part of the whole royal rumble weekend. Vince lost his mother who was a big part of the McMahon family. Shane lost his grandmother. That could explain the out of character behavior.
Vince seem like the type that would be effected to that degree that we the fans would be able to tell? He seems like a mind on the money money on the mind type. Not saying heartless abt his mom but very adept at compartmentalizing every aspect of his life......
@@crittoneida958 you know him personally to come to that conclusion?
@@davidnelson4347 sure do. Lol! Of course not. But if we are to believe the stories that HHH heyman jr cornette Russo and others have said abt his obsession with all things WWE, his 3am work calls to them and his non stop work ethic it seems reasonable to me to think the way I do abt Vince. Its all speculation, since none if us know him, just like the original post I responded to.
@@davidnelson4347 What a dumba$$ question. Just listening to this podcast, you would get that impression. There's an Omnibus episode on him where Jim talks about him for hours. Literally everybody that knows him who talks about him publicly portrays him that way... But let's pretend this guy's an idiot for saying that since he doesn't know Vince personally.
@@influencerpodcasts first off I don’t waste time listening to 5 hours of somebody talking. Two listening to someone talk about his experience with someone he worked for doesn’t give full picture about how someone feels about their mother dying. Thirdly I didn’t call the guy an idiot only you are assuming that because I’m going to assume you’re an overly emotional individual based on your emotional response
"Even though Shane has an ego as big as Texas, he's still my fav. McMahon!"
I think the funniest line I heard was that Shane FINALLY agreed to put Brock Lesnar over 😂 (I about split a gut when I heard THAT!)
I think brock would make Shane put him over even if that wasn’t the plan
@@peterlee6374 No, Lesnar would put Shane over. Over his knee and slap the taste out of him.
Dave Meltzer saying Shane is fired is proof he is the clickbait of the wrestling world.
@@unknowniam121 Russo is a million times better than Meltzer
@@jurtra9090 lets not get crazy about it
5* review.
I wonder why he never reveals AEW's backstage scoops
@@arthurdaffos1490 no, i'm not
I remember an early Shane commentary where he screamed "Come on Scotty! PUMP THOSE JOINTS!!!" during a Scot Taylor was doing his windmill corner punches.
I agree with Jim but I'm almost sure Shane doesnt want these moves his father are making happening. He's proud of what the WWE was and may want to keep the business one way. It just seems Vince is moving all the kids away so he can do with the company whatever he pleases.
*RAW Underground*.
"We wish Shane the best in his future endeavors."
Can you imagine, "We wish Vince the best in his future endeavors (Nick Khan)" LMFAO
Nick Khan really had Vince "budget cut" his own family. This s**t is wild lmao welcome to the new era of WWE folks
Dear Shane McMahon, we wish you the best in your future endeavours. Love Dad.
Haha yeah you better believe it.
♬ THERE GOES THE MONEEYYYYYYYY ♬
Right to AEW
Maybe its all a massive swerve to get people to talk about a show no one gave a shit about a few days ago.
I agree
I thought it was ridiculous when he wrestled the undertaker at mania and was competitive
Oh cawd!
And goldberg was believable lol..
@@owl509 kaylaaaaaaa!
@@jgbadblood414 what he wrestled Goldberg too?
@@jgbadblood414 no need to make comparisons buddy if something is stupid then you can call it that without dragging other things into it
Shane was actually great when he first came around. He was funny, a comedy act. Not a great worker but did crazy shit which was great at the time. But in recent years hes been portrayed as this fucking hard man bad ass and it was embarrasing
I saw Shane leap from top of titantron to land on someone (Big Show?) on a card table, must have been the late 90's as I haven't been to a show since then. You cannot say he was not committed to the product.
Lol I love how people are treating this like this is a real firing, as if he’s not the son of the owner of the company. Sounds like they had to “fire” him because he stepped on the toes of the agents and went into business for himself. He can always come back if he wants.
Exactly.
He was just the scapegoat for the messed up Royal Rumble
Like Pat Patterson being let go that time. Just a temporary thing
It's so silly. No one's even said he was *fired* they just said creative wasn't going to be planning for him in the future and the internet decided that meant he was showing up on AEW this week.
yeah he’ll be back
I thought it was announced that Shane was taking WCW out of the grave.
Its shaping up to be Nick Khan's WWE or it can be sold off. And also Shane have wwe stock do he will be fine. So will stephanie and Triple H
To be fair, nick khan seems like a very smart business guy and great for making a business very profitable. But he obviously isn’t a wwe fan guy
Having stock in WWE is like having the clap. It's something no sane person wants and is impossible to get rid of. But that's my two cents on the matter.
Sometimes it is not about the money but about being recognized as the chosen one to steer the ship
Definitely being sold.
@@Disneymagic24 good we need someone that not a mark to run the company
"Shane Screwed Shane!!!"
-Vinny Mac
I love these podcasts about the current status of wrestling and the great analysis of wrestling if you can call it that. The current status of wrestling doesn't really surprise me but seems like its drama on its own. Jim Cornette is a genius and was a great manager in front and behind the camera and knows everything there is to know about wrestling. True historian and legend.
Love hearing the awesome commentary from his perspective because its reality and authentic.
This week on AEW --- The arena lights dim.....the music hits -- "Here comes the money!"......the video screen is awash in bills....and JR shouts -- "Bah Gawd, it's Shane McMahon!".
Vince won the Royal Rumble in 1999. He was about Shane's age now at that point. I think Shane wanted that torch and Vince was not willing to hand it over.
Jim is one of the few on podcasts I can listen to talk about wrestling that doesn't make my eyes roll.
not to mention he's fucking hilarious LMFAO
When he first came back in Detroit years ago it was a great moment. Nobody had seen or heard from him in years. Now that he's back all he does is throw 50 fake punches and tries to jump from somewhere high in the arena to get a pop. Whenever I see him now it is just sad. He needs to be more in a Vince McMahon type of character. Like how his dad was when he was his age and wrestling. He shouldn't portray himself as a great wrestler, just as a boss that's trying to wrestle. If he does that then I will get behind him again. Would be more entertaining.
Seeing the bosses son beat up some of the greatest wrestlers really take away from believing those wrestlers are that great
He has become an embarrassment
If Shane O'Mac was the G.M. of RAW, it would be cool. "RAW Underground" was a better segment: it introduced Commander Azeez (aka Dabba Kato).
I was at that show in Detriot, I popped and so did the rest of the crowd
I was front row in Detroit, and I've gone to every event in Detroit since 98. The only pop that was louder was stone cold and the zamboni..but his pop lasted so long Shane came out during the commercial break to thank us. Insane moment
When Shane and HHH are being removed well.. that just says a lot. Either only Stephanie will have say once Vince goes or WWE will really be sold. Hard to imagine why they'd want to sell. Does Vince see it as dying figures the family can't keep it running after he passes? Does he want to sell while alive and put jump 1000% into the movie business and only focus on that?
Maybe they see Shane and Stephanie's kids start getting interested in being in the business and are saying fuck no, that's enough with the carny shit. we're rich now, this can stop.
Sell to Tony Khan. They’ll never see it coming.
The WWE is up for sale. They will sell it because the price of companies like that is high right now and it makes estate planning for the McMahon's simpiler. Vince McMahon does not believe any of his children can succeed him.
I think it is entirely possible Vince knows at this point nobody from his family can keep WWE afloat in the corporate world.
That fantasy they all lived until not too long ago is over.
And maybe it is better to sell it, get his kids some stock, some extra millions, maybe a good office position for HHH who at least knows the business well by this point, and then retire. Rather than leaving it to HHH and Stephanie and watch them get completely fucked.
Actually that makes so much sense, maybe Vince doesnt even care Nick Khan will fuck him over a bit, he knows he needs him to seal the deal and he is already thinking beyond this and into his retirement.
It has gotta be like this, Vince is smart when it comes to the business side.
@@EinvolkMusic I actually think Tony Khan is pretty much the only rich investor out there who might genuinely care about wrestling and who would truly care about WWE, the wrestlers and the product.
"Floating like a lead zeppelin and stinging like a feather."
- Jim Cornette (Ca. 2022)
I like the Mean Street Posse Jim Cornette 😂
Might be a work. We’ll have to see.
I always felt like Shane should have just joined the full time wrestling roster back in 99. From 99-2002 or so he had some of the better matches in the company. It always seemed like he wanted to just be one of the wrestlers but no idea why he didn't just do that.
Imagine Shane being WWE CEO and his sons walking backstage learning and such.
The way he seamlessly transitioned into an ad is why hes one of the best. Lmfao
No one is safe in wwe except vince and Nick Khan.
This smells like a work. It's the perfect setup for an epic father vs. son angle.
plz no vince to old for and angle😂😂
Already happened at WrestleMania 17 and it was great.
…Or vince uses austin theory vs shane o mac for the mcmahon fortune with a triple h and stephanie run-in
Sorry friend, but I think that's giving the WWE too much credit
Or Shane goes to the competition 2.0
Remember the end of WCW?
Would be some heel shit if Cody Rhodes brings Shane in to AEW to team with him.
In my opinion Shane ain’t no slouch in the ring he can go his match with styles at mania was a classic and the best match on the card.
When you book that horseshit of a rumble you should be fired
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Shane was "semi fired" most likely for basically botching the entire men's rumble match. Of course, it didn't help when Kofi botched his elimination, and the final 4 was a joke, and Mcintyre was treated like jobber against Brock with possibly the most short lived final elimination between two superstars ever. It was just way too scatter brained to have ever worked, and I just cant believe nobody saw that as if they were all on coke when planning it.
The Female rumble was pretty good other than the way Ronda came out of nowhere and won it similar to how Becky beat Bianca to regain the title, and how fan favorites like Lita and Bianca didn't have bigger moments. I was excited when Michelle McCool came back and had a significant amount of time though.. God does she still got it and is as hot as ever.. So yeah, what killed the rumble was basically how superstars were underutilized and guest appearances were overutilized. And all I really learned was if the WWE wants to be great again, they need to re-inject the veterans back into the game, but give them the proper roles to make it all seem sensible.
The WWE simply isn't going to get by on the talent they're using now, and it's sad to say. They really need the power of nostalgia to help float their boat. Wrestlers like McCool, Mickie James, Trish, and Lita for the Women, and for the Men I would be asking for the impossible or nothing with wrestlers like The Rock or John Cena with the addition of ANYONE else who still has it. They need ALL the help they can get right now.
I would like to see a picture of Vince as King Theoden from Lord of the Rings with Nick Khan as Grima whispering into his ear while a banned Shane is being escorted out of the palace.
Nick Khan is moving all the chess pieces for a CHEAP BUY from his friend DJ
You have no power here!!
@@AGCcachanilla going about it the wrong way by all the money they are making.
If Shane was available (and I'm not saying he is). I wouldn't put it past Tony to sign him. Like it or not, having a McMahon appear on any non WWE wrestling show would get a ton of attention.
There's a great storyline to be done there.
Back in the 90s there was a mass exodus from WWF to WCW, when Hogan, Savage, Hall, Nash and later Bret Hart and whole bunch more went to WCW. After WCW fell there was a conspiracy theory that they were all sent to WCW by Vince McMahon to bring WCW down from the inside.
AEW could use this with Shane. Shane shows up and reveals that the conspiracy theory was true and now history is about to repeat itself. He forms a faction made up of former WWE guys and from there, there is paranoia and chaos. Nobody knows whose going to be next to turn on AEW.
That would be fun but…there’s no chance in hell, pal.
I would hate if that happened. It would make me watch AEW less. But I could see Tony doing that too if Shane were open to it.
And a ton of Nuclear heat. I honestly think Vince would never speak to him again lol
@@jonburkitt3729 I wouldn't be talking to my father if I had done as much as Shane has and I wasn't inheriting the company. But i'd wait until dear old dad was dead and once I for sure didn't get it I'd shit on him just so VKM wouldn't get some second wind of McMahon hate and actually try again.
The old fuck ruined the buisness he took over. He's only good for wars he's a lousy king
I think what was really said was hey let’s pretend to fire you it will really get me over with the locker room
That was a fantastic advertisement Segway.
What was the ad for
This is highly anticipated I've been waiting on Jim's take on this situation
I don’t wanna see Shane anymore. I don’t wanna see Goldberg anymore. I don’t wanna see Edge anymore. I am tired of seeing old ass hall of famers getting better pushes than their current full time talent not named Reigns or Lashley.
Edge is probably the one that can be used properly if the booking allowed it. Instead hes being wasted on wedding cakes angles with The Miz
Shane Mcmahon use to be a commentator on Sunday Night Heat as well. I enjoyed him as a commentator. But anyway, I always heard that Shane McMahon was a favorite of the wrestlers. Shane knows how the wrestling business should be. I would not mind seeing him running WWE. He would do a great job.
Based on what?
@@nialllappin4159 He has a reputation being for the wrestlers . He is popular with the fans.
Never thought I’d see the day when a member of the McMahon family was fired 😂
Anytime I see Shane on TV i groan. It’s just played out with him, people say part timers take away spots from deserving guys, well Shane’s the definition of stealing the spotlight.
True that
He did it on purpose
sad thing is Shane has more talent than damn near everyone else on the roster these days.
He's got go away heat with me ever since that "best in the world" bullshit
This. Perfectly said
Even their commercial promos are golden, Jim and Brian can do no wrong
Shane was NEVER going to take over the business. Stephanie has always been daddy's favorite.
Vince is going to live 20 more years and make increasingly insane booking decisions the entire time. I can't wait bros.
The fact that Shane continues to do those 'punches' shows he simply doesn't get it and letting him go from an onscreen talent perspective is the right call.
What?
@@rojayreid908 Some smark wants better fake fighting no one is watching.
@@darthbigred22 ok
I feel bad about Shane being fired, always liked all his work on WWE he was a good gimmick in The Corporation & The Corporate Ministry, then the Here Comes The Money "Shane O'Mac" gimmick too. Enjoyed his matches at WrestleMania too for what he is, we all know Shane would bring WWE in a completely different direction & that's why he will never own or run that company IMO.
Best part of this story that nobody is talking about is apparently Shane and Randy Orton had their entrance numbers switched, and Orton told him “i’m not coming out to here comes the money”.
Looks Like Shane Overstayed His Welcome.
He's already in negotiations with AEW
I wonder if Shane ever had private talks with Vince about how HHH is basically taking his spot in the company. That may be why Shane soured on WWE and decided to step away.
Always wonder how things would've gone had Vince made Shane head of creative in 2000 instead of Steph.
🎶There goes the moneeeeyyy..... there goes the money!🎶
All thanks to Jim Cornette, I'm gonna use the phrase around 21:20-21:25 of "You don't know shit from apple butter about what the rest of us are doing...", from now on whenever somebody tries to tell me they think they know what's going on & I prove them wrong.
IMO Shane as a wrestler has always been overhyped and overrated. Never saw why so many people thought he was special in that regard.
You're crazy
Shane shows up on WCW
20 years later
Shane shows up on AEW lol
The person Tony Khan is talking about is Jonathan Gresham. Jay Lethal just signed up with Terminus and the forbiddin door is Terminus working with AEW
The Royal Rumble 2022 is now Shane’s own December to Dismember.