2008: Less is more, use rhetoric to let the fans figure things out. 2020: Raw is three hours long and full of replays reminding you of things you just saw five minutes ago.
@randy K15 No actually it was still good till about 2006. After that when Angle, Heyman and a couple others left, it started going down the shitter. Once John Cena began his unbearable reign which for no fucking reason lasted for over a year, that was the end of all kinds of sense, logic and quality. It wasn't until 2011 and the Summer of Punk that we could call it good again. But even that they screwed up after 2 great months. So yeah. Don't let nostalgia fool you. People will let nostalgia cloud themselves over anything. 10 years from now that Rollins vs Fiend hiac match will be called "epic". I know how this works lmao.
I thought about it, then New York. It had to be him. After reading and watching what that guy did, and said... I don't agree with Cornette on everything, but I agree on that name.
The company is called World WRESTLING Entertainment and their largest pay per view is called Wrestlemania. Yet, they can't use the world "wrestling". Wtf is that shit?
Notice its rarely spelled out anymore. Its just WWE, only the letters. Much like KFC or EA (Electronic Arts). The letters are the Brand. They dont stand for anything anymore. Or at least that is what they want you to think.
@@JonasDygd ok buddy ! Behind the elm trees it's so on!!! You Better pack a lunch mister ! * Offer only applies if you are 5ft 2 or less and less than 110 lbs so I have a chance 😁
You've hit the nail on the head here. All this high-handed tinkering with the etiquette of semantics is the behaviour of a managing director painfully avoiding the issue that his lawns need mowing.
I wonder what weird OCD terms Vince makes his family use when he's around them. Stephanie seems to have also forgotten how to talk like a human being and speaks in marketing buzzwords.
Yes....this is what I like. A good long video that I can listen to while lying down, exhausted from work. Not sleeping, but relaxing, resting my eyes, listening to a video of a decent length and not having to click on another video for half an hour.
Always found it funny that the word “wrestling” couldn’t be used when their biggest event of the year was called “wrestle” mania. Lmao. Shocked he didn’t rename it to just Mania
Even more hilarious when you remember that almost all their shows had the word wrestling in it. Wrestling Challenge, All American Wrestling and PrimeTime Wrestling.
“They are WRESTLERS, having WRESTLING matches, wearing WRESTLING boots and WRESTLING tights in a WRESTLING ring for a company called the World WRESTLING Federation.. So why the FUCK would we not call them WRESTLERS?” FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME FCKN BRAINS LOL
Remember when he said the key to a good con is laying a foundation of truth before you flip it on your mark? That's what he was doing when he said that, ironically. I love the guy, but he's a conman and very open about it. His new gimmick is this, Jim Cornette: angry wrestling historian podcaster. He will absolutely exaggerate or even outright snow you if he thinks he's putting eyes on the product (the podcast) and butts in the seats (buds in the ears.) What do you think has changed about his entire profession of lying to people to get them captivated enough they hand over more money to continue being lied to? He said it right to your face in a hundred ways and you still don't believe him, because he's that good. Did he respect the "real" fans when he waxes on about how you know the money was going to roll in for real if you saw somebody get incensed enough by saying truly terrible things about their home and loved ones to take a swing at a cop trying to get to you, in an effort to defend their home or values, in a situation he helped orchestrate and knew was horse hooey, counting on the target of the con to take it seriously enough he missed his kid's next birthday? No. He'll say essentially, "I got those people so hard with my lies they left me no choice but to smack a few of them in the face with a horseshoe, even after I had their money." and laugh uproariously about it If you're not taking Jim with a grain of salt, you're not listening. I'm sure it amuses him the degree to which he can spell out the game to you right to your face and still have you fished in. That sort of thing generally amuses a born grifter.
@@bikecaptain8015 You’re a sad little Reddit moderator. If you expect anyone to read your little dissertation, you’re a bigger mark than I thought you were. 😂🤦♂️
@@Oh_I_Will no, is. if you're comparing him to what WWE is now to what it was when he was involved, then yea, he was. but as far as wrestling itself goes, Cornette is still top tier.
Lee J. Green is agree with that. I don’t think he hates wrestling, just much more that now there are not any real real top name wrestlers about anymore, he just doesn’t know what to do to get the best out of them.
j114 I can actually understand wanting to differentiate and get away from wrastlin, they just went way too far with it. Vince it’s world Wrestling Federation and your premier event is WRESTLEmania.
Vince is resentful about being unable to break away from his carny roots and being accepted by the mainstream, which is why he's had all those failed non-wrestling ventures.
Sounds like Kevin Dunn And Bruce Pritchard are two of the glad handing, non sensical, douchebag yes men that CM Punk was talking about in his pipe bomb promo.
Kevin Dunn looks like Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter. Also Vince carrying on Wrestlemania is like that Simpsons episode where Krusty desperately finds an abandoned network station to broadcast a show in a shed room.
I remember during Bruno Sammartinos hype package for the HOF a few years back, John Cena kept calling him a performer instead of a wrestler, that’s when I really noticed it. Even the old school guys are getting tarnished with the ‘sports entertainer’ tag even though they wrestled years before VKM took over from his dad in the early 80’s.
When Corny said Kevin Dunn doesn’t like associating WWE with sports, it made me wonder how much it irked Dunn when Jerry Lawler compared CM Punk’s crowd reaction at MitB 2011 to the Bears playing the Super Bowl in Chicago.
"What is that?! The Entertainer just pulled an international object out from underneath the ring! Boy, this will really hurt the opponent's title opportunity in this contest! The opponent may be taken to a medical facility!"
Later... "Ladies and gentlemen of the WWE Universe, we have an update for you. The superstar who was earlier taken to a local medical facility is currently in a vegetative state. As you saw earlier, he suffered a terrible attack out at the ringside area. Medical personnel are currently treating this superstar, and we'll give an update as soon as we hear anything." Renee Young: "Wow. That's something."
@@TheSBleeder The amount of times they said "vegetative state" in the 2010 Kane vs Undertaker feud was unbelievable. Just say coma Vince you utter loon.
@@youtubeadmin1588 I think though, since he became a virtual monopoly it makes perfect sense. That's what was on major TV for 20 years. Nothing else. That's what others have to compete with in the U.S. now. Even a new company on a major cable channel again felt the need to emulate the worst aspects of what he ruined back then.
One of Cornette's best postings. He's controversial and old-school. In this case he's spot on. The hate he has for Dunn and Russo though is probably well deserved.
@@StinkyWhizzleteats Based on Olympic Greco-Roman/Collegiate wrestling viewing figures... NOBODY likes WRESTLING!! "Boots and tights" Cena wears neither; case closed.
@@darrengordon-hill lol true. The whole reason Professional Wrestling was dressed up the way it is now was because legitimate professional wrestling (submission wrestling) doesn't put butts in the seats.
Cornette knows, and I don't know why he won't come out and just say it, the reason for all of this is Vince getting around paying insurance and setting up retirement plans and benefits for the athletes. If it's classified as a professional sport then it falls under the regulations that come with it. It's the reason Vince came out and told the public things were scripted (read as fake) and wants it to be called sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.
Marc Carran actually he’s right. The main reason Vince put out the now famous “sports entertainment” ad was so he wouldn’t have to deal with the athletic commission and save money.
Marc Carran I deleted my very first comment where I agreed with you, because I looked up some info on it. Before Vince did the ‘sports entertainment’ ad, the athletic commission was treating WWF and their wrestlers as real sports and competitors, even tho they knew full-well that everything was predetermined. But the commission was making a lot of money off WWF, and the commission wasn’t going to go out of their way to un-fill their pockets. So Vince got tired of having to go through them every time he had a show, so he came out and said it’s entertainment. What other reason would Vince have to go on tv and say, ‘hey this is all fake.’? There’s no other reason to do so, everybody knew it wasn’t real. There was no need at all to announce this....unless, you’re tired of dealing with the athletic commission treating everyone of your events as a real UFC fight.
@Marc CarranHe's right as far as how it was treated by athletic commissions. Since the whole concept was that it was real and all of the talent followed kayfabe and protected the business, the commission kind of went along with it and treated it as just what they were saying it was...a legit sport. Therefore, they had to follow commission rules and pay whatever and so on and so forth. Back then, it was a price willingly paid by promoters in order to further protect the business. If anyone said it was fake, they could claim they were legit because of things such as the commission being up their ass. Also, the commission from each state most likely went along with it because it was free money. What were the promoters going to do back then, claim it was all fixed and potentially ruin their very business? So, in a way, the commission were kind of extorting money out of the promoters! Vince finally had the balls/brains/whatever to say "Screw this, we're not going by your rules and being subject to your fines, etc" and came clean about the business. At that time I think people were on to it enough so it wasn't as big of a deal compared to if he had done it a few years earlier. I think you're confusing what Vince did to the commissions with Jesse wanting unions.
The entire planet knows who Sting is. One of the biggest singers/composers in the UK. Plus, he was in Dune and other films. And in the TNA Hall of Fame....
Lol thats so funny how Vince doesn’t like the talent holding on to ropes when getting snuffed in the corner but he literally does the same exact thing !
Al Snow lol but I will give a touch of credit to it. If your a wrestl... I mean Superstar, your a tough nut. you don’t allow someone to punk you out in the corner while you stand there and take it. As jacked as vince was back then, he was never portrayed as a superstar. Just a big asshole heel that looked tough but was weak as 2 ply toilet paper.
Vince will also do things like say “never promote a match that will never happen.” Didn’t he announce John Cena for Royal Rumble 2019 or 18, like up to the event itself?
Chris Jericho said in an interview on the Stone Cold DVD about Vince selling a Stunner from Austin badly but he was congratulated and told how good his selling was just because he's the owner. But if Jericho had sold that badly Vince would have lost it.
They should drop the word “Football” from the name as the sport ain’t football. They should adopt the words “Hand Egg” instead. The Nation Hand Egg League sounds so much better.
Hoth Veteran yea we are just getting treated to the performance centre for a few weeks. Ridiculous that they don’t be real with us and say it’s due to COVID 19
You'll be charged with racism if you mention "Wuhaun Flu." Nevermind the virus was called that back in December & January. I say "Wuhaun Virus" to my Chinese co-workers who work in virology R&D and no one bats an eye since they called it that themselves.
Imagine if people in real life actually talked like people do in scripted WWE garbage. "Did you see that one Kitchen Nightmares, the weekly episodic television program, where the member of the _Ramsay-verse_ at the _dining establishment_ got food poisoning by eating an _unorthodox_ lobster and had to be rushed to the _medical facility_ ?"
"Im not allowed to say pro wrestling. Im not allowed to say wrestler. I must say sports entertainment and refer to the wrestler as superstars. Im told to deliberately ignore the moves and the holds during the matches so i can tell storys. " - Joey Styles
Vince got his wish in the one word I haven't used "interesting" and WWE in the same sentence in a long time. Probably a long time before I stopped watching them.
Don't say performance but they have a Performance Center. Don't say business but Triple Haitch said it all the time. Don't say war except when Raw used to be war. Micro managing at it's worst.
The banned list came *after* Raw is war and shit like that 🤦♂️ you cant go back in time and ban a word from use if it wasnt banned at the time. Good lord kiddo, it aint hard to figure that part out lol
@@TRivera13 "dont say war except when raw use to br war" implies they should retroactively go back and ban that word kiddo... 🤡 good job, try learning what implication means in the English language before telling someone they can't read 🤡 nice.
@@JackTheripper911 In no way does my comment say they should "retroactively" ban the word. If you were stupid enough to think that, that's a *YOU* problem.
Some of you may be too young to remember this but Vince started changing terms due to lawsuits. From the steroid trials to the world wildlife federation, he has learned to try to avoid these problems by changing terms. That only accounts for a little over half the terms. The other half definitely seems like has been trying to erase anything to do with professional wrestling.
No no, I watched 1 documentary prior to the WWE thing. No, he was saying it before that, making fun of Ted Turner. That lawsuit was an excuse. I think this is why he was eager to get rid of Bret Heart. That's way too much of a pro wrestler, even the later version. Had to go.
Don't say "Talent" I concur ... current roster is lacking that... rather insulting to those with actual talent. I hate the fact they aren't allowed to call the name of the moves or background of wrestlers... I learned so much from JR calling moves....
Big Cog, Little Cog. The big cog rotates slightly "click", and down at the bottom of the machine the little cogs are spinning at 10,000 RPM to keep up...Vince himself at this point probably doesn't remember all the words he has "banned."
Vince must be clueless because all my friends that mention it to me, or see me watching it or something, to the non-fan, they refer to it as wrestling.
@@michaelcoffey1991 that's just it, they keep offering people obscene amounts of money to comeback and wrestle because their current stars can't cut it. I mean, FFS Goldberg? Edge? To be fair, I love Edge, but he has no business in a ring anymore. I'd be gutted if he gets injured permanently, or even again. Christian and Punk will be back within the year, I almost guarantee it. Thank god stone cold has enough money to just never go back. Fuck, Batista and the Rock won't even do it anymore. Even Cena is mostly done, and he's in phenomenal shape, regardless of what else you may think about him. Vince needs to either step down, or let the "superstars" say whatever they want (within reason) like he did when people actually watched his show.
Cornette proves a point I have said for years. WWE is thinks the fans are so stupid because they think no one watches any other promotions. WWE actually thought no one was going to know who Terry Funk was? smh.
On the recent empty Performanve Center Raw, Austin said he was "blown up" from his ring entrance. It reminded me of when the Dudley Boys imitated the Public Enemy one time back in the real ECW. LOL
By that logic Kevin Dunn isn't a "baseball fan", he's part of the "MLB universe".
LMA😂
Hes a part of theBugs Bunny cosplay fanclub-what a loser.
Its not football its the fifa universe
@@jetblack81 well that's actually true cause without FIFA there is no football.
Should just call it rounders and call Football gridiron football
2008: Less is more, use rhetoric to let the fans figure things out.
2020: Raw is three hours long and full of replays reminding you of things you just saw five minutes ago.
On the bright side, at least the WWE doesn't have to worry about anyone using the word "interesting" to describe their shows.
2008 Raw was pretty trash as well
evrbody you forgot 1999
@randy K15
No actually it was still good till about 2006. After that when Angle, Heyman and a couple others left, it started going down the shitter. Once John Cena began his unbearable reign which for no fucking reason lasted for over a year, that was the end of all kinds of sense, logic and quality.
It wasn't until 2011 and the Summer of Punk that we could call it good again. But even that they screwed up after 2 great months. So yeah.
Don't let nostalgia fool you. People will let nostalgia cloud themselves over anything. 10 years from now that Rollins vs Fiend hiac match will be called "epic". I know how this works lmao.
@@AxeDharme it wasn't even Cenas run that killed it for me, It was JBL. Felt like it lasted years
I take it the “Shit Stain” Jim referred to is Vince Russo Lmao.
Anybody loyal to the Jim Cornette talks knows. He doesn't even gotta say his name lol
I thought about it, then New York. It had to be him. After reading and watching what that guy did, and said... I don't agree with Cornette on everything, but I agree on that name.
Totally got Kevin's teeth confused with the pause button, that's hilarious 😂
Have you been examined
Me too omg 😂😂😂😂
Literally every wrestler is a Superstar. If everyone is a superstar then no one is.
The women aren't
I have said the same thing for years.
@@josiahsterling7308 Actually they are. They removed the word "women" from the women's title and they no longer say diva.
I think the idea is all of THEIR roster are superstars implying that no one else is.
The irony is that none of them are! Hulk Hogan was, Austin and Rock were. Nowadays most of them are barely recognisable to the average person.
The company is called World WRESTLING Entertainment and their largest pay per view is called Wrestlemania. Yet, they can't use the world "wrestling". Wtf is that shit?
The world's biggest non problem
Notice its rarely spelled out anymore. Its just WWE, only the letters. Much like KFC or EA (Electronic Arts). The letters are the Brand. They dont stand for anything anymore. Or at least that is what they want you to think.
A huge world title match main event at this years Sportsentertainmentmania!
"WWE" World Wide Entertainment" much like it was WWWF "world wide wrestling federation"
"Entertainer" just makes them sound fake. For god sake, call them athletes, fighters, contenders...
Grappler works
Now you getting it..
I disagree. Want to entertain about it? I will entertain you anytime, any place!
I concur with grappler , and would also like to throw the word pugulist in the ring , if I may
@@JonasDygd ok buddy ! Behind the elm trees it's so on!!! You Better pack a lunch mister !
* Offer only applies if you are 5ft 2 or less and less than 110 lbs so I have a chance 😁
Vince's personal #1 banned word: Retirement
good god thats the truth. Just look at Wrestlemania this past month. A won-out Goldberg putting on a
You've hit the nail on the head here. All this high-handed tinkering with the etiquette of semantics is the behaviour of a managing director painfully avoiding the issue that his lawns need mowing.
Vince don’t believe in retirement 😂😂😂😂
Zach F According to him on the last ride documentary, that was takers last ride
guess what...
Right now a banned word is probably "postpone".
pspower 😂
I guarantee that “Sneeze” is another one right now 😂😂😂
Omg 😂😂😂
and CM Punk
sneeze an covid sounds like a 90's tag team
I wonder what weird OCD terms Vince makes his family use when he's around them. Stephanie seems to have also forgotten how to talk like a human being and speaks in marketing buzzwords.
Yes....this is what I like. A good long video that I can listen to while lying down, exhausted from work. Not sleeping, but relaxing, resting my eyes, listening to a video of a decent length and not having to click on another video for half an hour.
TH-cam does have autoplay. Just a thought.
Damn that sounds so peaceful hope you enjoy it
Until you get hit with an ad and have to get up to press the skip ad button...
I love going to sleep with the soothing sounds of Corny's rants myself ☺️
@@TBrizzle01 Ah but adblock and watch on chrome, not TH-cam apps. All blocked.
Vince: "He's a Mastodon! We'll call him The Mastodon!"
Cornette: "... It's fucking Vader!"
MANTAUR PAL
Imagine Walt Disney reprimanding his employees for using the word "animation."
LOL
I think cartoon would be the banned word here. Animation seems more like sports entertainment.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot424 He'd probably ban both!
Lmaoooooo frfr
"created movement"
"Don't say interesting!" Oh don't worry Vince, when it comes to WWE I'm sure nobody's saying that anymore.
You win the comment section
Yep pretty much 👌👌
Lol solid joke. 10/10
Facts 💯🎯
😂😂
Always found it funny that the word “wrestling” couldn’t be used when their biggest event of the year was called “wrestle” mania. Lmao. Shocked he didn’t rename it to just Mania
Rob Miljus I also hate when they point it’s so retarded and hokey
sportsentertainmentmania
Or wwemania.....its retarded
Van Zammerz Right
Even more hilarious when you remember that almost all their shows had the word wrestling in it. Wrestling Challenge, All American Wrestling and PrimeTime Wrestling.
I swear...these Cornette rants are getting me through this lockdown lol.
Same!
Facts
Fasure. I barely like wrestling haven't watched for more than 15 minutes since 03'
TNA Lockdown?
Definitely
"Well this is wrestling motherfucker, sit back and let the professionals drive." BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
“They are WRESTLERS, having WRESTLING matches, wearing WRESTLING boots and WRESTLING tights in a WRESTLING ring for a company called the World WRESTLING Federation.. So why the FUCK would we not call them WRESTLERS?”
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME FCKN BRAINS LOL
I appreciate the fact Jim Cornette respects the wrestling fans' memory and intelligence. The example of Terry Funk is extremely appropriate.
Remember when he said the key to a good con is laying a foundation of truth before you flip it on your mark? That's what he was doing when he said that, ironically.
I love the guy, but he's a conman and very open about it. His new gimmick is this, Jim Cornette: angry wrestling historian podcaster. He will absolutely exaggerate or even outright snow you if he thinks he's putting eyes on the product (the podcast) and butts in the seats (buds in the ears.)
What do you think has changed about his entire profession of lying to people to get them captivated enough they hand over more money to continue being lied to? He said it right to your face in a hundred ways and you still don't believe him, because he's that good.
Did he respect the "real" fans when he waxes on about how you know the money was going to roll in for real if you saw somebody get incensed enough by saying truly terrible things about their home and loved ones to take a swing at a cop trying to get to you, in an effort to defend their home or values, in a situation he helped orchestrate and knew was horse hooey, counting on the target of the con to take it seriously enough he missed his kid's next birthday?
No. He'll say essentially, "I got those people so hard with my lies they left me no choice but to smack a few of them in the face with a horseshoe, even after I had their money." and laugh uproariously about it
If you're not taking Jim with a grain of salt, you're not listening. I'm sure it amuses him the degree to which he can spell out the game to you right to your face and still have you fished in. That sort of thing generally amuses a born grifter.
You are sad
@@bikecaptain8015
You’re a sad little Reddit moderator. If you expect anyone to read your little dissertation, you’re a bigger mark than I thought you were. 😂🤦♂️
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@@bikecaptain8015jesus christ
The documentary "sports entertaining with shadows" is fantastic.
LOL
That right there sums up why VKM never should have bought his father's business.
Lol that was so good 😂 wwe is making the company rediculas and kinda boring
@@ryanhadley2685 It sucked since 2003.
😂😂😂 this killed me
Jim is the one of the smartest minds in wrestling
BW Burks III amen
Was
@@Oh_I_Will no, is. if you're comparing him to what WWE is now to what it was when he was involved, then yea, he was. but as far as wrestling itself goes, Cornette is still top tier.
OH_I _Will no smark
@@Oh_I_Will Your mother's a dumbass for not choosing abortion
Vince has also removed a lot of wrestling fans from his product too!
Yup Damn Shame SMFH 🤦🏾♂️
🐐 comment 😂😂😂😂
Yeap allot of WWF loyal Fans that made him rich
well, it isnt really wrestling... is it? some of these guys might have real wrestling backgrounds... but its pretty damn far from actual wrestling.
that’s because Vince and Kevin wanted to be big shot Hollywood Movie Directors most likely
Vince is fascinating in that his entire fortune and legacy is based on an industry he clearly hates.
j114 out of touch more like it
Lee J. Green is agree with that. I don’t think he hates wrestling, just much more that now there are not any real real top name wrestlers about anymore, he just doesn’t know what to do to get the best out of them.
j114 I can actually understand wanting to differentiate and get away from wrastlin, they just went way too far with it. Vince it’s world Wrestling Federation and your premier event is WRESTLEmania.
The irony is that it's irrelevant now. He, and WWE ARE wrestling. Like it or no, his company is the leader.
Vince is resentful about being unable to break away from his carny roots and being accepted by the mainstream, which is why he's had all those failed non-wrestling ventures.
They've probably added "Elite" to the list.
and DELETE
Tha_SilverBlack_16 and BROKEN
@@primusvsunicron1 Wasnt BROKEN always banned?
Botchamania is probably banned
@@crowns9966 it should be banned with how fucking Awful that gimmick was.
Kevin Dunn with the black ops 2 logo in his mouth.
Gooner Man lmao
😂 good one
I actually double checked
Are you a Vince Russo fan ?
@@xxtravdamanxx No. I am not but that's besides the point...
"The most electriciying man in whatever the fuck he's in" i love that lol
Sounds like Kevin Dunn And Bruce Pritchard are two of the glad handing, non sensical, douchebag yes men that CM Punk was talking about in his pipe bomb promo.
Several names are interchangeable...Gerald Briscoe is another
@Nick Hughes he mentioned Johnny by name
The only interesting 7 minutes of Raw since 2003
*Prichard
There is no t in the name
randy K15 it’s subjective, but wrestling is not for me anymore. That’s okay though.
There’s nothing worse than hearing WWE universe 10 times a show
WWE Universe is such a lame term.
yep this term is a complete shit
yeah ill admit even back then it sounded stupid
vince is such a LAME owner.....
I think it's a good reason that everything in WWE sounds so contrived. The branding of absolutely everything makes it all sound unnatural
Definitely is but then again, r&b artists in early 2000's were calling their websites usherworld and all that.
2008: Don't say perform!
Ten Years Later: Welcome to the performance center.
Savage 😂😂😂
Lol.
WWEs tombstone will read:
“Micromanaged to death”
🤣 🤣 🤣
Whenever corny starts an answer to a question with the phrase “oh god” you know it’s gonna be a good one
'In these meetings were Vince, Shane, Prichard, shitstain, and Dunne'
Doesn't take a genius to know shitstain is obviously Russo.
It’s Cornette’s designated name for Russo.
Kevin Dunn and all those guys sound like complete nightmares.
They are probably the type of guys to say Vince if they heard you disagreeing with one of their ideas to get you fucked
What's that show called again? I forget. Oh, right.
It's... WRESTLEMania!
Yeah, the biggest show of the year for that company.........what's it called? Oh, World WRESTLING Entertainment.
*EntertainmentMania fixed it for you homie 💪🏾
they should change it to CelebaMaina if we can't call it Wrestling , Wrestlers
@@2ColdScoprio shut up nerd
@KING MIKO no. Just Mania.
Harlem Globetrotters is sports entertainment.
Kevin Dunn looks like Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter.
Also Vince carrying on Wrestlemania is like that Simpsons episode where Krusty desperately finds an abandoned network station to broadcast a show in a shed room.
"So what does Wrestle in Wrestlemania stand for?"
Vince: *tears another quad trying to get angry*
he should just put a re-run on and hope nobody notices. OH SHIT I DIDN'T KNOW THE MACHO MAN WAS BACK!
@@L1am21 I'd prefer to see natural 80's beauty Miss Elizabeth than the over inflated lips of Carmella, any day of the week.
Why you gotta insult Pettigrew?
Live, unscripted comedy! Featuring mr scorpion and mr battery!
24:29
"This is wrasslin' modderfucker, so sit back and let the professionals drive!"
I just had this on in the background and I laughed out loud!
I remember during Bruno Sammartinos hype package for the HOF a few years back, John Cena kept calling him a performer instead of a wrestler, that’s when I really noticed it. Even the old school guys are getting tarnished with the ‘sports entertainer’ tag even though they wrestled years before VKM took over from his dad in the early 80’s.
Man i miss wrastlin, "sit back and watch the professionals drive" what a boss dude
When Corny said Kevin Dunn doesn’t like associating WWE with sports, it made me wonder how much it irked Dunn when Jerry Lawler compared CM Punk’s crowd reaction at MitB 2011 to the Bears playing the Super Bowl in Chicago.
"What is that?! The Entertainer just pulled an international object out from underneath the ring! Boy, this will really hurt the opponent's title opportunity in this contest! The opponent may be taken to a medical facility!"
Later...
"Ladies and gentlemen of the WWE Universe, we have an update for you. The superstar who was earlier taken to a local medical facility is currently in a vegetative state. As you saw earlier, he suffered a terrible attack out at the ringside area. Medical personnel are currently treating this superstar, and we'll give an update as soon as we hear anything."
Renee Young: "Wow. That's something."
@@TheSBleeder The amount of times they said "vegetative state" in the 2010 Kane vs Undertaker feud was unbelievable. Just say coma Vince you utter loon.
"I R HUMAN"
Sounds like something you’d here in a WWE Video Game
Vince McMahon is really off his rock and out of touch.
MrBlackraven989 theyre talking about stuff from 10-20-25 years ago.
@Walt Clyde "Noooo not my Vincerino, you can't criticize my out of touch CEO!"
Walt Clyde ok big Brian Pillman Mark
It's mainly that buck teeth fucking idiot kevin dunn
@@youtubeadmin1588 I think though, since he became a virtual monopoly it makes perfect sense. That's what was on major TV for 20 years. Nothing else. That's what others have to compete with in the U.S. now. Even a new company on a major cable channel again felt the need to emulate the worst aspects of what he ruined back then.
One of Cornette's best postings. He's controversial and old-school. In this case he's spot on. The hate he has for Dunn and Russo though is probably well deserved.
Probably? It is well deserved!
@@JerGer918Dunn, Russo, Herd, and McMahon are the biggest reasons wreatling is the clown show it is today.
Can't say performance but Wrestlemania is coming from a building literally named the Performance Center.
They say performing all the time, they don't use terms like "fighting"
Ok, I can understand the PC, many sports would have some facilities focused on improving peformance
Byron Kennedy if the talent will fly there, they can't get wrestlers there for empty arena house shows at the moment.
PerformanceMania!
WRESTLEmania lmfao
10:26 "Our Fans Are Not Wrestling Fans." I think what you meant to say is, "Our Bosses Are Not Wrestling Fans."
Our fans....both of them.
@@StinkyWhizzleteats
Based on Olympic Greco-Roman/Collegiate wrestling viewing figures... NOBODY likes WRESTLING!!
"Boots and tights"
Cena wears neither; case closed.
@@darrengordon-hill lol true. The whole reason Professional Wrestling was dressed up the way it is now was because legitimate professional wrestling (submission wrestling) doesn't put butts in the seats.
Is it bad that the moment he said "shitstain" I knew exactly who he was talking about
Nope we ALL know, and hate the fuckface
I'm guessing this individual uses "bro" a lot
@@MikeyMUnited LMAOOOO he’s his own stereotype
He uses "Shitstain" and "Russo" interchangeably.
Literally anyone familiar with Jim knows who shitstain is. You arent special in that regard kiddo. Its a well known thing
“I am a wrestling fan” sounds like a good shirt idea
Vinnie Mac be like: "I am a sports entertainment fan"
@@quadroxism6645 no we todd.
It's wrestling
Pro Wrestling.
That's all.
Kevin Dunn is we todd ed
Cornette knows, and I don't know why he won't come out and just say it, the reason for all of this is Vince getting around paying insurance and setting up retirement plans and benefits for the athletes. If it's classified as a professional sport then it falls under the regulations that come with it. It's the reason Vince came out and told the public things were scripted (read as fake) and wants it to be called sports entertainment instead of pro wrestling.
Marc Carran actually he’s right. The main reason Vince put out the now famous “sports entertainment” ad was so he wouldn’t have to deal with the athletic commission and save money.
Marc Carran no, it was 100% about saving money.
Marc Carran I deleted my very first comment where I agreed with you, because I looked up some info on it. Before Vince did the ‘sports entertainment’ ad, the athletic commission was treating WWF and their wrestlers as real sports and competitors, even tho they knew full-well that everything was predetermined. But the commission was making a lot of money off WWF, and the commission wasn’t going to go out of their way to un-fill their pockets. So Vince got tired of having to go through them every time he had a show, so he came out and said it’s entertainment. What other reason would Vince have to go on tv and say, ‘hey this is all fake.’? There’s no other reason to do so, everybody knew it wasn’t real. There was no need at all to announce this....unless, you’re tired of dealing with the athletic commission treating everyone of your events as a real UFC fight.
@Marc CarranHe's right as far as how it was treated by athletic commissions. Since the whole concept was that it was real and all of the talent followed kayfabe and protected the business, the commission kind of went along with it and treated it as just what they were saying it was...a legit sport. Therefore, they had to follow commission rules and pay whatever and so on and so forth. Back then, it was a price willingly paid by promoters in order to further protect the business. If anyone said it was fake, they could claim they were legit because of things such as the commission being up their ass. Also, the commission from each state most likely went along with it because it was free money. What were the promoters going to do back then, claim it was all fixed and potentially ruin their very business? So, in a way, the commission were kind of extorting money out of the promoters! Vince finally had the balls/brains/whatever to say "Screw this, we're not going by your rules and being subject to your fines, etc" and came clean about the business. At that time I think people were on to it enough so it wasn't as big of a deal compared to if he had done it a few years earlier. I think you're confusing what Vince did to the commissions with Jesse wanting unions.
You can’t call it a professional sport. It’s choreographed with pre determined winners.
I'm surprised Kevin Dunn didn't say nobody knows who Sting is.
How has no one popped him in those fucking ridiculous looking buck teeth that he has yet. What a jackass.
The entire planet knows who Sting is. One of the biggest singers/composers in the UK. Plus, he was in Dune and other films. And in the TNA Hall of Fame....
So even jobbers are considered superstars according to Vince smh
I think they call them local talent now.
@@MrJjburgess11 You can't say talent, though.
Barry Horowitz would be patting himself on the back
Same way all former employees are called “legends”
are there jobbers anymore?
Until they said Foriegn Object I didn't realize how long it'd been since I've heard that.
So long you forgot how to spell it!
International object
Undocumented object, more pc
@@bravetitangrizzly No, that would be Migrant Object.
Alien object.
i keep looking at kevin dunn's teeth in this picture and thinking it's a pause symbol
Bruh🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FUNNY....I WAS NEVER A JIM FAN UNTIL THESE PODCAST.... HE'S ACTUALLY THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS. SUBSCRIBED
Vince is a great businessman.
Was a great heel boss.
Vince also destroyed the wrestling business.
Thanks to Jim and this video, the word "banned" has now been replaced with "prohibited verbiage".
Jim just needs to call Kevin Dunn by the name he gave him, Bucky Beaver from now on.
5:32 I can literally imagine that meme of the corpo meeting and Jim ending up being thrown out of the window when he suggested "wrestler" lol
Road to Entertainmania LMAO
I'm here in public with peoples around me looking why I suddenly laugh out loud lol
LMAO!! UNDERRATED COMMENT!
Gorilla monsoon is rolling in his grave. ......he was my favorite commentator and he couldn't work at wwe now. Ironic
I bet Gorilla and Bobby would have fired back and said "F*CK YOU!" to VKM and his demanding instructions on the headset and his stooges too!
Gorilla could’ve overruled Vince lol he was untouchable and always had a job in wwe thanks to SR
Gorilla's legendary "gimme a break!" would probably be reduced to "I request a rupture."
Lol thats so funny how Vince doesn’t like the talent holding on to ropes when getting snuffed in the corner but he literally does the same exact thing !
Al Snow lol but I will give a touch of credit to it.
If your a wrestl... I mean Superstar, your a tough nut. you don’t allow someone to punk you out in the corner while you stand there and take it.
As jacked as vince was back then, he was never portrayed as a superstar. Just a big asshole heel that looked tough but was weak as 2 ply toilet paper.
@@lordsinister1232 That's an interesting point really, never thought of that!
Vince will also do things like say “never promote a match that will never happen.” Didn’t he announce John Cena for Royal Rumble 2019 or 18, like up to the event itself?
Chris Jericho said in an interview on the Stone Cold DVD about Vince selling a Stunner from Austin badly but he was congratulated and told how good his selling was just because he's the owner. But if Jericho had sold that badly Vince would have lost it.
@@Jackalblade9 "Don't say interesting, pal" ~ said in gravelly Vince parody voice
Imagine if the NFL commissioner banned the word football
And stopped calling us “football fans” and instead said we were the “nfl universe”
They should drop the word “Football” from the name as the sport ain’t football. They should adopt the words “Hand Egg” instead. The Nation Hand Egg League sounds so much better.
I will do suicide
@@Cwattyeso LOOL
@@Cwattyeso yeah that joke was never funny to begin with mate. Just makes you look dumb. Its called football, get over it.
There’s already a word for all this. It’s called “newspeak”.
Maybe WWE should be rebranded as INGSOC
Don’t say Coronavirus Pal! Just don’t say anything at all! WWE Superstars never get Sick!
Hoth Veteran yea we are just getting treated to the performance centre for a few weeks. Ridiculous that they don’t be real with us and say it’s due to COVID 19
I don't see why that's bad, we hear Covid-19 100 times a day, why would I want to hear about it when I'm trying to relax and escape.
You'll be charged with racism if you mention "Wuhaun Flu." Nevermind the virus was called that back in December & January. I say "Wuhaun Virus" to my Chinese co-workers who work in virology R&D and no one bats an eye since they called it that themselves.
If they get sick, they are taken to a nearby medical facility.
@@juicyfruit6311 COVID19
Imagine if people in real life actually talked like people do in scripted WWE garbage.
"Did you see that one Kitchen Nightmares, the weekly episodic television program, where the member of the _Ramsay-verse_ at the _dining establishment_ got food poisoning by eating an _unorthodox_ lobster and had to be rushed to the _medical facility_ ?"
With Ramsay calling it "culinary entertainment" or something.
*Gordon Ramsay slices a perfect medium rare steak*
*VINTAGE GORDON RAMSAY*
"Im not allowed to say pro wrestling. Im not allowed to say wrestler. I must say sports entertainment and refer to the wrestler as superstars. Im told to deliberately ignore the moves and the holds during the matches so i can tell storys. " - Joey Styles
No, you're right, say "towpay sue a cedar" more
"Which is damn insulting to the WRESTLERS - not entertainers - WRESTLERS who leave their families 300 days a year to ply their craft IN THAT RING!!"
He mocks God HE MOCKS GOD!!!
"And most importantly, I'm sick of Sports Entertainment".
@@adanbravo4722 👏 Beat me to it 😂
Vince got his wish in the one word I haven't used "interesting" and WWE in the same sentence in a long time. Probably a long time before I stopped watching them.
DracoTora then how do you know if it’s good or not...just bc Corny and Russo say it sucks, doesn’t mean that it’s so...well, maybe it still does
"Wrestling is the most bipolar fucking business " - CM Punk
You can’t call the wrestlers in the wrestling company “wrestlers”?🤨
Nope. Now, they're "talent".
What the fuck does WWE even stand for then? Are we looking at a KFC situation here?
@@Hillthugsta it stands for World WWE Entertainment
much like GNU is Not Unix
Hahahaha kevin dunn omg them rabbit teeth 🤣🤣🤣
More Beaver-ish. As he also looks like a beaver. And is referred to as a beaver
Damnit Jim! I told you not to design the thumbnail yourself.
@@eLiFILMSinc Yep. "Beav, roll the footage ". XD
It's not rabbit teeth their his fucking beaver fucking teeth as Jim has referred to them as
Other than the obliviousness of how great of a baseball player Pete Rose was (and how much people remember him), this is pretty spot on.
How does he remember all this shit!? Even the dates and times and what he ate for lunch ... 👀🤣
Kevin Dunn In the thumbnail art!! Lmao 😆 I’m dead
I despise wrestling now. I really miss the territories but like a lot of things they are gone forever
Vince McMahon needs to retire from WWE. PERIOD!
He’s still in the age range for a Wrestlelamia main event though
Or drop dead
@@bigdon6910 I don't wish death on Vince. I'm just saying, if he DOES die -- whenever that may be -- WWE will be great again.
to bad it will not be as great as it was back in the 90's early 2000's
Kevin Dunn needs a drug 💉 will make him drop dead
when he stops this insanity is when we get the good times again. Pay attention aew.
Don't say performance but they have a Performance Center. Don't say business but Triple Haitch said it all the time. Don't say war except when Raw used to be war. Micro managing at it's worst.
The banned list came *after* Raw is war and shit like that 🤦♂️ you cant go back in time and ban a word from use if it wasnt banned at the time. Good lord kiddo, it aint hard to figure that part out lol
@@JackTheripper911 Hey kiddo, how about you learn to read? I clearly point that out.
@@TRivera13 "dont say war except when raw use to br war" implies they should retroactively go back and ban that word kiddo... 🤡 good job, try learning what implication means in the English language before telling someone they can't read 🤡 nice.
@@JackTheripper911 In no way does my comment say they should "retroactively" ban the word. If you were stupid enough to think that, that's a *YOU* problem.
This reminded me that genius George Carlin bit about euphemisms
The Kevin Dunn on the video image. 😂 Oh man
Some of you may be too young to remember this but Vince started changing terms due to lawsuits. From the steroid trials to the world wildlife federation, he has learned to try to avoid these problems by changing terms. That only accounts for a little over half the terms. The other half definitely seems like has been trying to erase anything to do with professional wrestling.
No no, I watched 1 documentary prior to the WWE thing. No, he was saying it before that, making fun of Ted Turner. That lawsuit was an excuse. I think this is why he was eager to get rid of Bret Heart. That's way too much of a pro wrestler, even the later version. Had to go.
This artist is awesome. Always nails it.
7:47 thank god we have Jim Cornette in the wrestling world
Kevin Dunn's teeth perfectly suit the pause button on my phone
Everything that Vince thinks makes his product "better", is what's making his ratings plummet. Why can't he put these two things together? 🤔
Early stages of dementia
It's not that he cant, its that he genuinely doesnt care what the fans want. Because he knows it doesnt matter, he will make a profit regardless
Cornette is the man a true wrestling treasure.
Don't say "Talent"
I concur ... current roster is lacking that... rather insulting to those with actual talent.
I hate the fact they aren't allowed to call the name of the moves or background of wrestlers... I learned so much from JR calling moves....
Big Cog, Little Cog. The big cog rotates slightly "click", and down at the bottom of the machine the little cogs are spinning at 10,000 RPM to keep up...Vince himself at this point probably doesn't remember all the words he has "banned."
"This is not a sport."
Meanwhile... "Sports Entertainment!"
Lmao names off names then"and shit stain" was perfect I love you Jim.
Vince must be clueless because all my friends that mention it to me, or see me watching it or something, to the non-fan, they refer to it as wrestling.
Kevin Dunn’s Bucky beaver teeth in this cartoon 😂 😂
“Company money”- “hush money”
“Retirement”- “PR stunt”
There you go vince
Superstar in WWE is the equivalent of a "Cast Member" cleaning a restroom at Disneyland.
Vince is fucking insane.
You can't say *WRESTLING* in the World *Wrestling* Federation.
Holy, fucking, shit!
EDIT: I was summarily chastised. = )
If people stop watching it due to nostalgia it can die as it should of long ago
😂
It's like a milk farmer not liking the word milk and instead insist you call it bovine lactate juice.
@@PomazeBog1389 you sir, have a powerful rebuttal, and as such, I stand corrected.
@@michaelcoffey1991 that's just it, they keep offering people obscene amounts of money to comeback and wrestle because their current stars can't cut it.
I mean, FFS Goldberg? Edge? To be fair, I love Edge, but he has no business in a ring anymore. I'd be gutted if he gets injured permanently, or even again.
Christian and Punk will be back within the year, I almost guarantee it. Thank god stone cold has enough money to just never go back. Fuck, Batista and the Rock won't even do it anymore. Even Cena is mostly done, and he's in phenomenal shape, regardless of what else you may think about him.
Vince needs to either step down, or let the "superstars" say whatever they want (within reason) like he did when people actually watched his show.
Vince and kevin are freaking out of their mind.
I feel like this is George Carlin sharing his 7 words you can’t say on television
I missed the old days, going the the lousville gardens every tuesday night. Watch lawler and the fabulous ones, to jo yamamoto and jerry jarrett.
Cornette proves a point I have said for years. WWE is thinks the fans are so stupid because they think no one watches any other promotions. WWE actually thought no one was going to know who Terry Funk was? smh.
Vince in 2008: The belt represents hard work and dedication
Vince in 2020-2021: Title swaps between existing champions
On the recent empty Performanve Center Raw, Austin said he was "blown up" from his ring entrance. It reminded me of when the Dudley Boys imitated the Public Enemy one time back in the real ECW. LOL
Vince wouldn't dare tell arguably the biggest star the company has ever produced what to say though lol