Jim Cornette on His Experiences With Vince McMahon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2022
- From Episode 436 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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“I was tired. I wanted to eat. Turn the air conditioning up and watch TV in my underwear.” - That hits home.
So relatable
I love Corny's idea of a good time after a long day: pizza and tv and air conditioning, without socializing.
Or pants.
@@BurgerQueenDoudrop yes, that part was hilarious..how he just wants to watch tv in his underwear ahahahaha
@@jdspreest I can't stop laughing at that.
Maybe a little 420
A hooker or 2
I’m just imagining the board trying to force Vince out like the Norman Osborn scene from Spider-Man; *DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I’VE SACRIFICED PAL* ??!!
Lol!
😂😂
OUT AM I PAL?!
Good one
LOL the pal at the end makes it
"when he tore his quads and couldn't stand, there were little hints" the only time he sells is when he physically can't hide it 😂
“Imagine if she was a paralegal?AUUUGH” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao Brian is having a blast with all these news of Vince 🤣🤣
He certainly changed over the years. I feel the Vince we know now began when WWE went public in 1999. From that point on WWE was no longer a Wrestling Promotion but a Corporation that delves in Wrestling.
@@willr6521 “Ill take it from here nurse”
Changed? There's been rumors of him doing things like this since the 80's.
@@vinylbuff1515 vince: NO NO NO NO NO!!!
I'd say after like in the Ruthless Aggression Era his own bullshit kept him pumped up. How else do you allow wrestling to fall into the mess it is now? Cena was/is HATED but VKM just forced that big phony down everyone's throats. I guess he felt if can make Austin, Rock, Mankind big he could make anyone matter forgetting Austin, Rock, and Mankind did connect to the mainstream.
@@maxxdahl6062 Exactly. *Rita Chatterton says hello.*
I think when he defeated WCW and took the company public things changed a bit because of growth. The Benoit incident is where he completely lost trust in everyone because of the way his decision making started to change, started to really play it safe and creatively boring deliberately.
The Benoit incident made Vince look completely bad, he survived it but it completely changed him
The show was on a steady decline since 2002 when Rock and Austin left. Giving the title to HHH and letting him beat everybody and cut 20 min promos every night killed the show. Benoit killing his family was and is a tragedy, but the business was already a joke by that point. All the older fans had moved on to UFC by then and Vince will never get those people back.
I think it had more to do with the fact that Vince took over the corporate end in the late 2000's. Before that he didn't care because it was Linda's job to deal with the corporate suits.
@Rschr101 Underrated comment. The UFC is really underestimated in the terms of how much it really hit the WWF. The Golden Era was a product of the times and something I will always think fondly of; however, the Attitude Era really captured those teens and young adults and made the product edgy, but once the UFC took over and WWE became silly and goofy and people were giving birth to hands and shit in the early 2000s, it was really hard to get those old WWF fans back. They went to the UFC which was becoming the cool product.
I am an avid ufc fan, but I stopped watching Wwe when Rock left. I tuned in for personalities that just aren't there anymore. I watch ufc for completely different reasons.
@@Rschr101 You hit the nail on the head 🎯🎯🎯
“Not recognizing who certain people are”
Excellent question Sheldon
Vince shows up in a few weeks with a mustache, "My name is Vincenzo Eduardo McMahon, i'm the younger brother of Mr McMahon and the new permanent chairman of the WWE".
Kevin Owens goes nuts and demands a lie detector
@@J.D.1. Mr America intensifies
Lmao! Not a bad idea, isn't Vince's real mother a Mexican woman named Juanita or something? Not sure if that's actually what you're referencing or you're making a joke that just happens to fit with Vince's part-ethnicity haha.
@@Methodius93 the joke is because of Ezekiel and Elias, but now that you mention that I think it’s both😂
Bro did you really just predict the future? 😂😂😂
I firmly believe if Linda didn’t come back from the office and spring Jim and co. Vince would keep writing with them for 24 straight hours.
Oh man. Ignoring all that's been said and done, what wouldn't I give to go back in time to just be an observer in one of those writing meetings at Vince's house.
Id kill someone and upset the fabric of time to go back to that Night when Vince took the Doomsday Device and Hart Attack in the strip club then went to flairs hotel room got stoned and piss drunk and pissed on flairs bed
'...don't be going over the fucking Sears catalog...' 😂🤣😅
5:22-5:26 I live for Brian's Vince impression. Holy s**t ... 🤣🤣🤣
The bed pan bump is coming back to haunt Vince.
Nah it’s that garbage can lid Rock hit him with that caused this.
Stone Cold: oh I’ll take it from here nurse.
Vince: No no no no no!
plot twist, he feels it every time it gets replayed, he's been hit about a billion times lol
Lol according to Jim. Vince was like Mr. Belding from Saved By The Bell.
Every time there is a commotion in the locker room or writers room Vince walks in and screams "Hey Hey Hey, what is going on here?"
5:23 "imagine if she was a paralegal" I was screaming 😂 that Vince voice
I think an important factor in the difference between Jim's experience with Vince and later stories is the change in the industry during that period. Jim left at a time when the Monday Night Wars were still ongoing, but shortly after that Vince won, and for the two decades since he has basically been untouchable - he was essentially the entire industry for all that time, and also became a billionaire. That amount of money and power can corrupt, and there's an escalation in Vince's behaviour that tracks with his increase in power and decrease in accountability, nobody's holding him to account because there's no way of holding him to account, he's the CEO of an entire industry and has the numbers of kings and presidents in his phone, it's no wonder he thought he was untouchable, he fucking was! Gradually a board of directors is established and the company goes public, but it's too little too late in terms of reigning in Vince's exploitation of that power, as long as the NDAs keep being signed and paid he will keep thinking he can do whatever he wants and nobody will touch him, and if he'd kept paying Janel Grant he'd probably still be CEO. Decades of unfettered freedom and power warped Vince's mind past the point where Jim would recognise him, and that warped perspective led him to believe that he could fuck over this woman and refuse to pay her, and to hell with the NDA, he still thought he was untouchable because he's Vince McMahon and has been untouchable for decades, and he didn't (or couldn't) recognise that he wasn't untouchable any more. Ultimately, Vince screwed Vince.
Steve when is your 8 hour long video of comparisons between our boy Philip and Vince and their love for all things poo poo?
@@unsaltedskies funny you should mention that, I've been kicking around that idea...
If this gets Vince his heat back, he might as well go with it. One last run as Mr. McMahon.
#NoChanceInHell
Almost 2 years later, after everything that has unfolded...
No chance in hell
Like Jim said once before wrestling companies shouldn’t ever go public. I’m my opinion that’s where Vince really fucked up.
I always thought it was Legion of Doom in the bar and Vince took the Doomsday Device.
That is correct. The Doomsday device was the worst finisher he took that night. But he was taking just about everyone's finisher in that bar.
Maybe jim only met the vince, who was struggling to survive. In the 90s he had to deal with scandals and the rise of WCW. He was just focused on his company
If Vince is removed from WWE, I guarantee you Conrad Thompson will drive to Connecticut to do a podcast.
5:10-5:26 Corny is a man after my own tastes, and Brian's Vince impression DESTROYS me every time!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was only missing a "pal" or two but was basically perfect 🤣
Listening to this now, with the current scandal still ongoing, has been absolutely wild.
5:09 YO! Cornette a Real one for saying that!!!!!
JC being real as usual
You know Vince paid that $3 million so she wouldn't tell the world the steroids turned his balls into raisins.
40 years of steroids made him crazy.
You mean grapefruits, pal
Gotta love how Vince has always said he doesn't like rich people, and yet he behaves like a typical rich person!🤣
Could the era Vince was on his "good" behavior was when he was under the microscope right after the steroid trial, gambling rules, etc anything bad would have killed his image during these investigations and trials and losing would have costed him the business? Then when he wasn't in the investigations microscope he began to act out
"If you're gonna fantasize about Sable wearing something, at least pull out the main event shit! Don't be going through the Sears Catalogue."
Jim Cornette-2022
Words to live by.
he said it last year as well, and most times Sable comes up in conversation lol
@@iamdb1990 Sable is the chick he wanted but couldn't have
I'll take the white cotton panties anyday over BDSM attire
My Wife's father was acting the same way and died 2 months later.. He started doing teenager/young adult stuff out of nowhere... It was weird..
what does that mean? Men of all ages want to have fun... especially sexually. Remember, men 18-60 prefer women 18-24 and are meant to spread our seed far and wide. Not remain with woman for the next 50 years.
Well, Vince has been doing that same stuff for decades. Going back to at least the mid-80s with a Playboy centerfold secretary that was having sex with him and later testified against him during his trial.
So what's your point?
LOL! at Jim's after show ritual of eating pizza in his underwear. He's a curious fellow.
If you never ate pizza in your undies you're missing out.
To be fair, I think a lot of us who can have fun working that schedule would be doing the same a chunk of the time. Trailing Vince in his prime wouldn't even been fun after a while, drinking half asleep would feel like work lol
@Red Comet Except he literally doesn't. But I probably shouldn't give you the attention you so desperately leech for.
Forgetting stuff at his age is perfectly normal. Most old people are very forgetful.
It's great hearing the old road stories from wrestlers on TH-cam but how cool would it be to sit with Jim and hear his stories the guy should right a book.
Is this sarcasm? He has. A couple of them I believe
I dunno about anyone else...But i’ve been a WWE Fan since 1986...It kinda sucks seeing Vince getting old..really...you see it in his face these days so much...he still looks good but I miss the Vince on commentary from 85 until 97..That’s all
I know that feel Bro.
To this day, my favorite commentary team is Vince and Jerry Lawler.
@@rushensingh5048 Me too..Me too...Lawler and Vince 92 when Lawler debut on SUPERSTARS until 97...Lawler in his prime with quick witted funny as hell things to say and Vince being the over the top loud clear straight man...classic
@@MikeyMike-uu3fe no way. Vince & Ventura was where it's at
Vince isn't used to being told no and doesn't like being told no. Very dangerous in itself before adding power and money.
What's really ironic is I'm trying to listen to this but someones gardener with a leaf blower nearby is drowning it out
So they can "force him out" but he still owns it and can book the show. What exactly are they taking from him?
Hahahaha Brian's impressions are gold.
Interesting to listen to this in january 2024
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
Vince’s private area on the plane was at the emergency exit….because of the implication…
The implication 😂
Listening to this end of Jan. 2024 and… wow. Yah, stuff was DEFINITELY different than when Corny was there.
Another reason is the success of the Mr McMahon character. Definitely one of the best characters ever created but sometimes maybe Vince constantly confuses fantasy with reality. Hence him living in his own bubble and calling it the WWE Universe.
On the bright side, we're finally going to see the back of John Laurinitis for good.
Wonder if the board when they talk to them will understand what Laurinaitis is saying?
Only corny can spend 17 minutes saying “Vince and I weren’t that close, we were just co-workers.”
Jim doesn't understand psychopathic tendencies.
Last hates Vince. Vince must not of hired him.
Even with people..
Who really hate WWE product right now,
But..
They are from 80's or 90's generation.
It's sad to see what happened to Vince right now.
Without this man,
There's no our childhood memories and fantastic wrestling moment.
I know, the past is the past..
But ya..it's kinda sad to see this man like this, is he gonna survive this one ?
He prob won’t survive it, but as long as he didn’t do anything horrible then him losing his position would be the worst of it. If more comes out and it’s worse behavior, he could get the Cosby treatment.
@@moralesharold87 If it's nothing horrible, he'll survive it. Vince has done a LOT of horrible things for entertainment on television at the expense of himself and others. Sexual harassment and lewd comments won't be the death of him. If he touched her or threatened her job if something didn't happen then he's fucked.
This doesn't even make the top 5 list for worst things he's done, he'll definitely be fine
@@al5306 Horrible is rape or something to that level. Anything he has done on tv is not close to that.
@@moralesharold87 Wrestling fans also still praise Chris Benoit and he murdered his wife and child. I think Vince is going to be OK.
I hope a cognative test will be harder than Man, Woman, Person, Camera, TV.
Vince getting hit with the Doomsday Device at the strip club is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard
One of my favorite Vince bravado stories; the other one is when he was driving in the rain and was going like 90 MPH and swerving around because in his mind he was the best driver on earth and the rain and slick road conditions didn't apply to him LOL.
Brian’s impression of Vince is just unreal! 😂😂😂 I can’t stop laughing
I kinda got the Sable love she was like a younger hotter Linda that was Vince type
"I'm hurt, I'm injured, I've done something wrong."
Love how Cornette slipped that in.
“Imagine if she was a Paralegal!”
Hey, wtf did Brian mean at the end, about "who's the gutsy podcaster that's gonna get David Shultz on now?" ???
Vince lost his way once WWE went public, and he was lost forever after the Benoit deal where he didn't want to take chances anymore.
I think he has changed and a lot of it has to do with both going public and him maybe taking a few too many shots to the head. Up until he went public, he was working towards a goal and that helps keep you focused more, you don't do anything that will mess that up. Once wwe went public and bought WCW and ECW, the challenge was over - he more or less owned wrestling and now was exceedingly rich because of it. Plus everyone was talking about what a genius he was, what a great business man he was, etc - don't tell me that didn't blow up his ego. But he also got into the ring more and did more extreme stuff and if he doesn't tell people he is hurt, how much damage could be done? I mean they kept Danielson out of the ring for years over concussions, Vince isn't known for taking time off. So I think you have a guy whose now so wealthy, whose ego is pumped up so high and maybe not thinking quite at 100% anymore thinking "I'm Vince McMahon, I can do anything" and he does.
Yep..nicely said
Change? Accused of rape in the 80s
@@kevindouglas5333 Accused, not convicted. Not saying it didn't happen but people say a lot of things that turn out not to be true - Vince and Shawn were also gay lovers remember. Give what the WWF was doing in the 80s, could have been something said by another promoter to screw over Vince, we just don't know. But we do know of stuff over the past 20 years and it shows someone who thinks his wealth can get him out of anything. Remember Vince is the one who told the pilot he'll buy the plane when the pilot told him to settle down and quit banging against the plane door - if you lose pressure at 30000 feet, doesn't matter how much money you have. That's not normal thinking.
@@dcb_75 Didn't even know the rumors extended to Vince himself but I guess when crap gets flung around, it gets everywhere and on everyone.
Respect to the stock holder whho held kayfabe in such a high esteem ! :)
These Saturday uploads have been right on time lol
Bret Hart has a story about smoking weed with Vince and Owen and others in Flair's motel room.
I can't believe Vince stepped down...
Me neither, thought hed die before it happened
He hasn’t steped down at all untill he is no longer the head of Creative
@Justin Christopher i know but he’s still head of creative
@Justin Christopher your missing the point. He still has the power to make raw and Smackdown ass
@Justin Christopher it is power though he can make peoples lives miserable with that
I smell a big Mr MacMahon comeback on the way. This recent shyt was released in an effort to create a lil corporate heat for himself 💯
I have heard a LOT of stories about about Vince barely sleeping/ if at all. Given his age if he’s often been going without sleep it’s quite possible he’s suffering some form of mental deterioration? I hope not but you combine that with chair shots and bumps in his older years… anyway just musing/ hoping that’s not the case.
Sadly, that does affect Alzheimer.
Vince has been known to be up till 3am if not longer doing gym workouts.
@@GokuMcDuck see that’s kinda where my brain was going too (or other cognitive issues)
@@robertnapier624 This. I know he works out, but even part of a hard workout is a good long night sleep.
@@MrMugen1985 I know as sadly I dealt with both of my grandmothers losing them to it.
Yooo who makes these thumbnails!?!? 😂😂😂 Whoever draws Cornette must be having their time of their life
5:09 “If you’re gonna fantasize… least pull out the main event sh!t…” -I LOVE JIM’S DELIVERY 😂🤣👙
05:11 damn good taste old fella.
White cotton Panties ugghhhhhh😭🤣😭🤣😭 funniest shit ever🤞🏿
Forcing Vince out was like how the Jedi try to force Palpatine out
Its treason then, pal...AAARGH!
Do you think that people are still “nice” or at least not disparaging towards Vince, because they still might be hoping for another payday some sort of way in the future? Also, does Vince always keep a “fall-guy” near him, like a Kevin Dunn or Johnny Ace, so incase something like this happens that he can always have a back up plan to pin it on? Very similar to how mob bosses are well insulated??? Any thoughts anybody?
He is a lot like Trump super erogant and also willing to throw someone under the bus to save his own hide
Vince seems like the type who would easily compartmentalize
He definitely would have been in peak business mindset around the time corny was there since those where the days he was trying to be number 1. Then it was to maintain that position. But even Vince can't keep that competitive mindset when there is no competition and he had monopoly over everything and that's probably when boredom set in and then these things creep up
I picture Vince like Mr Belding from Saved By The Bell.
He's more like Mr. Burns from The Simpsons, fitting since he hasn't been out of his house or the office since 1983.
Johnny was the ACE in the Hole. Tag team buddies! At least it was a woman not a guy!
Lmao 🤣 🤣🤣... yeah pat Patterson
Ohhh sable is hot pal !!!
Imagine if she was a paralegal :D
I wonder if Brock has ever brought this up in conversation with his boss? 🤔 would love to be a fly on the wall for that
Jim & Bryan, I haven’t told you today, so here goes ….. Love ya both! 🇨🇦
Cornette has said this about Vince is that "Working with Vince was like develpoing a twitch trying to figure him out" and I believe him. Anybody who has worked with Vince knows what they're gonna expect from him. Vince had all these crazy bat$h!t insane ideas, sometimes they make it onto TV or get shot down. I think the reason why everyone has had an in between relationship with Vince (love-hate) in my estimation is probably because they love his ideas at times, but hate how they get treated. Take Jim Ross for great example, why he got treated the way he got treated by Vince, I have no idea, but JR didn't deserve that at all, but at least in AEW he's getting the respect he rightfully deserves instead of being treated like $h!t
One thing history has taught us since the beginning of time no matter how invincible someone might seem eventually they make a fatal mistake that causes their downfall and Vince might be on the doorstep of learning that lesson.
Vince became Mr McMahon he became the gimmick….or it was Mr McMahon who played Vince for years
I don't know anything about anything, but the concussion thing is not something I have ever thought about
"He just holds their head."
Fuckin Corny. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fabulous Moolah 2: Genetic Boogaloo
Crazy Couple of Weeks in Professional Wrestling and I’m just Wondering how Many NDA’s Vince McMahon & Pat Patterson got those Ring Boys to Sign?!…. 👀
those won’t matter, they were waaay before the company went public and other people owned stock in it
@@ccrz77 Still wouldn't be a good look no matter when it happened.
People who till this day believe the pat thing,,, i got news for you the only reason they blamed pat was because of his sexuality because homosexuals were discriminated terribly. Tl;dr: if you believe the pat thing you’re a legit homophobe.
This is funny since the HR director of my employer looks like Vince McMahon.
You a para legal?
@@northleedspoppa
Laborer at a juice factory.
@@LoganSewell83 cool you're safe
What I find funny is Corny trashes wrestlers for “exposing the business” but isn’t explosively negative on Vince for literally getting on national television and saying this is all a performance and none of this is real on numerous occasions. I guess we have different opinions on what exposing the business is.
He's already spoken on it several times. How many more times does he need to bring it up? Besides, it's not like Vince constantly does an angle, then immediately goes on a podcast with his opponent to discuss how they set up the match.
So doing a podcast is worse than literally calling the business fake? You can’t tell me he talks about Vince the same way he talks about other wrestlers. He doesn’t even call Vince twinkle toes.
if you listen to the full segment from podcast, when theyre talking about the upcoming (fri) smackdown appearance and it gets mentioned the script was thrown out - jc expresses his usual frustration
@@LoPhatKao thank you, I will listen to it. I’m not saying he’s never been critical of Vince, rather his language is never as colorful when Vince exposes the business as opposed to other people he perceives does.
I think Jim is waiting on the Hall of Fame invite.... whether he accepts it or not will be interesting.
It wouldn't surprise me if these allegations were true we are talking about Vince McMahon
The image should have been Cornette in his underwear with a slice of pizza in his hand in front of a TV with the AC cranked up.
Corny lyin' like carpet 🤣😂🤣
I believe you Jim cornette but screw Vince McMahon
if hes forced out, he damned well better return under a mask
Power Money Respect is all he wants
5:05 White cotton panties🤣🤣🤣 Hell naw... That's how you know Mr McMahon was born in the 1900s😅😅😅 I won't expect him to say anything else that his age🧓
Mr McMahon and Popeye's into the same thing🤣🤣🤣
4:37
Jim gets it. After a long day I just want to eat alone in a climate controlled room, too.
Regardless of Vince's situation, to be a billionaire and run a global business for over 20 years...to not have any scandal's is impossible. Vince is really just like any of us if we was to ever be in his position
Don't speak for me, stranger 😂
“Not have any scandals” is the funniest thing I’ve heard all year
@@TheOrlandoTrustfull uh become a multi millionaire with nice cars and homes with a blue check mark next to your name on Twitter... most will change. Maybe it doesn’t last forever... but most will have fun with it.
Loool facts
Any possibility that the few matches Vince had had a detrimental effect on his mind?
Took a nasty bump and hit his head badly in the cage match with Austin. Nothing to suggest that couldn't cause some form of brain damage even if it was only one incident, and we've seen what head injuries can do to a person's personality and behaviour.
Vince has an evil twin!
AEW fans having a field day.
Maybe he has CTE...👀
Talking about very detailed stories. Liars tell very detailed stories.
past endeavored