205/50/15 or 225/50/15 on 90's Civic?
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0:00 205/50/15 or 225/50/15?
0:27 Wheels and Tires
1:20 Acceleration Test
2:17 Reviewing the Results
3:38 Comparing the Wheels
4:08 205/50/15's
5:42 225/50/15's
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I’m currently running 15x8+35 konig hypergrams on 225/45 hankook rs4s and i am loving the setup, so much grip around the corners at the track, and the fitment is amazing
I want to see pics of 225/45/15 you
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Damn, perfect timing. This is exactly what I was looking for. Those Enkei are the perfect look for a 90s car, much like the BBS for the 80s 944 turbo.
1990 Civic Si Hatchback - SPARCO 15x6 Trofeo 4 and SPARCO 15x7 FF-1. Tire - Federal 595RS-R or NITTO NT01 going 205/50/r15.
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185 65 14s on repainted stock steelies, only the finest for my ej8.
haha I've rocked painted steelies before as well. Before the wheels came in! Own it!
But is there a sport tire in this size ( 14 inches ) ?...
There are, a lot of Asian and European countries still run with some smaller wheels I think. There's some perellis I was looking at but I just put some standard tires on. They are still about $50 each so it's cheap to keep good rubber on them 🤣
@@paulbaker6536 I live in Europe. There isn't a sport tire in this size ( perhaps, Dunlop SportBluResponse and Dunlop FastResponse are the best tires in 14 inches ) because the rest of them focus for the fuel economy. Besides, the 13" and 14 " tires are dissapearing here because they put on old cars... If you want to buy sport tires in Europe, at least they must be 17 inches ( Michelin Pilot Sport 5 or Bridgestone Potenza Sport tires for example ).
Ahh gotcha, that's pretty similar to here (usa) there are a good amount of 15" and up options for sure. The 14s definitely aren't used very often any more.
"do you have a 6j, or an 8j? If you have a 6 run 205 if you have an 8 run 225"
This entire video summed up
Спасибо!
Currently running on my '95 civic hatch, a set of 15x7 Rota Slips on 205/50-15 Hankooks. I originally ran Falken Azenis 205/50-15 for a couple years and enjoyed the grip. Looking to add some OEM+ feels and will be running some 195/55-15 with some EM1 wheels 😎
I did have an '97 Integra 6yrs ago which I did a reverse offset (Kosei K1 15x8 in the front and 15x7 out back on 225/45-15 Nitto NT01) that was pure God-like grip on the backroads).
Editing on this video was 🔥
I rock 205/50/15
Currently running Yoko Advan Fleva V701 205/50/15 on 15x6.5 for my 00' Civic HX. The small wheels help make the car feel quicker than it really is though. Feels nimble and handling is very predictable, I love it. Only mods are a set of coilovers.
96 honda civic hatchback, running 205 50 15 on em1 si wheels and I love the look.
Oo nice. The Em1 Si wheels always look cool
I got em on my 91 Civic Si. They are in perfect shape in TGP
Awesome vid! Was searching because I picked up another set of wheels, after watching your vid, you should scope these wheels I built specifically for my EF hatch, you'll dig it! Cheers!
I’m watching. I run 205/50-15 direzzas on my all motor ‘98, 5 sec 0-60 on the street because very traction limited. Funny how his vid popped up cuz I was just thinking of running a 225/45-15.
The main reason your 225/50 is slower in acceleration is because you increased the rolling radius effectively giving you a taller final drive ratio. This could either help or hurt depending on what track you are running. I prefer the 225/45 like you mentioned due to the lower ratio and less rotational mass. I'm sure you probably know this already, but the further the weight is from the centerline of rotation, the more impact it makes. Lightweight lug nuts, almost no difference. Lighter tires, much bigger benefit. Braking efficiency is also slightly worse on the larger tires vs same 100TW lighter tire.
Rotational mass is killer for low powered cars. Your center of gravity is also slightly higher as you mentioned. Granted, none of this makes any sizeable difference unless you are in a very competitive class chasing those .1% gains. Your new setup is hands down superior to the old though. If your old gearing matched the track better then you would see some improvements stepping down to the 225/45.
If you really want to knock out some banger laps, throw on a set of Hoosier A7 but they are only good for a few hotlaps before they overheat. The R7 would last longer but are slower on raw hotlap pace. Don't expect either of them to last too long though. Both are rated at 040 treadwear haha. They are also $331 each :/
Currently we're restricted to a 205/50/15 Falken RT660 (Spec Tire Class) on an 8" wide rim. Have ran 275/35/15 Hoosiers with SCCA. We ran a 225/45/15 on a 9" wheel years ago and it felt really good.
The crazy thing about the 205/50/15 RT660 is how wide it runs, it basically is a 215/50/15 and barely looks like it has an stretch on it and is noticeably wider than the RE71r on the same 15x8 wheel...
@@aw614 I noticed the same thing. Hoosier 205's are about as wide as a regular 215.
Is there a decent enough difference in running a 205/50 on a 7" wheel versus 8"? Will the wider wheel give improved steering turn-in response?
Thank you.
195/50/15 Michelin Pilot Sport 3 the best tires I ever put on my car (road use).
Wish I could still find them in stock somewhere -
@@carlloftin2850 are they discontinued? My have a Dot 2022 or so.
@@NikosDIY I cannot find them in the US -
Currently rebuilding my civic. I'm in south GA and would like to check you guys out sometime after first of the year at the Firm. Slowly building civic for handling similar to yours. Both setups look great to me.
Cleveland TN here 🎉
205/45/16 hankook ventus for street and 225/45/16 Firestone Indy 500
I actually have a set of Yokohama S-Drive 215/40R16 mounted to Drag DR31 wheels on my 1990 Civic Si. I got these as my first set brand new from discount tire. This is my daily car which I take to the occasional Auto-X, but for daily comfort I have decided to look for a 15" option. Funny enough, I have been looking for a set of 949 Racing 6UL wheels in a 15x7 size that I would like to match with a decent all season 205/50R15 tire. Totally understand the need for wider tired for the track as my 215 handled about everything I threw at them, but the added height to the tire, when match with a larger sidewall needed to be comfortable to daily, wasn't worth the reduced wheel travel on a lowered car. Cant wait to read others opinions on our beloved Hondas.
I have 205/50/15 on my Del sol because I’m basic and there’s tons of options for the size. I’ve ran 205/45/16 before too and it was essentially the same.
205/50/15 always looks good on the Del Sol too!
Ek coupe - 205-45/16 for the street & 225-50/15 for track.
Wish I didn't have external reservoir coilovers.
I'm running 205-50-15 falken azenis rt615k+ tires on a set of +42 offset 15x7 enkei rpf1's on my ek hatch. They are in my opinion really good at my local track, Portland international raceway.
Nice! Happy to hear you have experience with them out on your track.
185 55 r15 on hypergrams and on Drag DR21... darn near rubber band tires😆 but I love them❤️ I have them on S drive( my car had been sitting for 6+years and I know I need to swap the tires out) and I loved the grip those little tires had. Made me smile every time I parked it😁
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225/50/15 federal 595rs rr. On 15x8 rotas. On my 97 hatch. It was the only thing left and a noticeable weak link. Stickies all day. Take care man
So don't exactly have a 90s civic but here's the wheel/tire setup on my cars:
'85 MR2: 195/50R15 Hankook RS4's on Kosei K1 15x7 +30 offset (very miata like setup, did not want to roll fenders, could of went 15x8, might do that in a future set of wheels if I hit a wall with this setup.
'02 Civic Si (EP3): Random brand 500tw tires, 205/55R15 on Enkei RP02s, I know alot of people rock 17s on EPs but this was originally on the AW11 and it fit well on the EP. Might stick with it and stick some decent allseasons as the EP is more of my daily then the track car my AW11 is.
I think the tire size you choose for track purposes does come down to how much you push your car, I'm still fairly new to MR cars and am largely running on stock power and suspension, aside from a set of coilovers. 15x7 on 195/50R15 seemed to be a healthy size to get comfortable on while retaining acceleration, I will jump up to wider wheels/tires when I feel I need more grip on the corners.
Great video, hoping to grab an EG-gen hatch or coupe myself one day as they're my all time favourite civic.
I run 14x5 +45 with 185/65 tyres on my B16A2 EK4, it might not seem that great from the numbers but in fact I found it's the perfect set up for roll racing, since these small motors usually don't make much power when stock traction is rarely an issue, it's really overkill running larger wheels and tyres on the car unless your car is focused on cornering. Highly recommend anyone looking to get the best performance out of their Civic's for straight line pulls to run the smallest wheels and tyres possible and you'll definitely see the difference, the engine has to work a whole lot less harder when it doesn't have oversize wheels to drag along haha 😄
What brand-model of 14 inches tires are you using now ?. Thank you.
Kumho Sense, I daily my EK4 so I don’t need anything too crazy haha, cheers
@@MatthewTomkins Ok. In this size, I put on Dunnlop BluResponse or Dunlop FastResponse tires ( but road no circuit ). Thank for your answer.
94 EJ1 w/05 Civic Hybrid wheels. Supalight 😎👍
For my track set up i run 225/50/15 all around on kuhmo ecsta v730 and love it. For regular dailying its a 215/45/16. Will be switching to nankangs next year to see what the hype is about
Nice! Yeah, we've heard good things with the Nankangs as well. Good luck with them!
@@RefineMovement Zestino Gredge 07 RS tires are better.
I'm a little worried about putting 205/50's on my 15x8's. Like how much stretch are we talking about here? I'm hearing 215/45's on 15x8's take away the stretch completely but idk?
I'm currently running Rays RE30 15x7 on some Chinese 195/50. Planning to upgrade to some 205 or 225 to get that beefier look
Wanted to get a set PF05’s in 16x7 for my 98 civic hatch. Wanted to run a wilwood 6 piston front brake set up, and wanted to make sure I had room.
195/50/15 on my DA9.. but for sure will be going with a 225/50/15 with slips and maybe getting 205/50/15 on 5zigen wheels that I love. 😊
Always wider tyre if you can get the fitment right. And by fitment I mean nice track fit. Function = form imo. Also it's pointless testing tyres by drag racing them. Semi slicks are made for track drive not launching. Stiff sidewalls are the opposite of what you want for drag racing
Funnily enough, I had no idea what I was running, because I swapped wheels with my crx. They're 205/50/15 lol. The wheels that came with my civic are horrendous, so I just used what I already had. They definitely look better than the 185/65/14s on it before 😅
I was about to go 225 but after seeing this video im gonna stick with 205.
I'm running 195/55/15 walmart tires on my 04 civic, but they look small in my car. My wheels are hp racing wheels 15x6.5 in black satin. I'm considering changing that tire size but not sure which one yet, I have been using this tires since 2016 so I need to get them out asap. I'm looking for the perfect fit, so recommendations are welcome.
Boosted Vitara build 99 civic ek street car and I run 205/50/15's and I love how they ride and handle. 225's will rub unless you camber the crap out of them lol
1995 honda civic ex coupe, I have 2 sets I play around with, 205/50/15s and 205/45/17s.
For the acceleration the thing about that both are different sizes so it will make your Speedo read slower with the big tire.
Yeah, something I didn't realize at the time when I made that video way back when. Was still a fun test though!
225/45/15 was perfect for my old 94 hatch.
EJ9 here (’99 Civic 1.4)
Just yesterday painted my new steelies (6jx15 et 45) to use with 195/50r15
Question. I’m looking to upgrade up to 7jx15 but wondering what et I should look for?
It’s track car but still OEM suspension.
And yes I wanna buy semi slics for new setup
‘93 Hatchback w/Acura LS meshies and 205/50/r15 Nitto Neogens.
Hankook 195/50/15 on Si OEM rims on my 97 EK hatch. 🔰
Soo I have been racing in h4 for a while while most in the of our region run 225 50 15 toyo RR I found running 225 45 15 allows my gearing to work better since I'm still on the stock final drive. To give you an idea on our omega section at big willow I had to use 2nd gear for th 50 and with the 45 I could use 3rd. If you are on the oem final the 45 gains is gearing is like going from a 4.7 final drive to a 4.9 final drive. Highly recommend going 225 45 15.
Very cool to see that difference of having to use 2nd or 3rd gear in that specific section. Yeah, I'll be getting the 225/45/15 next time around to try it out and compare.
I’ll be doing 16 45 235. As soon as I finish my build
Running 195/50 ventus v2s like you are but i really want to change to a 205 for some more cornering grip(this is my daily but i treat it like a track car 😂)
225/45/15 is what I used to run on front and 215/50/15 on my 98. B20 with gsr tranny needed grip.
Currently running 205/50/15x7 5zigen fn01rc on my hatch, 195/50/15 OG TE37 on the teggy but might go 15x8
Is it safe to put a 225 /45/15 on a 6.5 wheel or am I better off with a 205/50/15
I’m running a 15x7 +25 offset mst42s or something like that and running a 195/50/15 hankook Ventus v2 I will always regret not getting the 205 🥲😭
You know what you need? Some bright blue Diamond Racing wheels 😂
91 civic hatchback 15x7 rota slips with 205/50 Hankook ventus v2 concept
Can I ask what are offset s for both wheels ??? They both look really good!!!
225/45/15 > 225/50/15 for road racing and autocross and tire choice.
The 225/50/15 size seems more common for drag racers...I see more tire choices for 225/45/15 in 200tw. Some like the A052, RT660, RE71rs are probably faster than the R888 for those one lap sprints and come in that size...
One of the common themes I remember reading on old Honda tech posts that the 23in tire was the magical tire diameter you want for gearing and grip which the 225/45 and 205/50 would have over the 225/50...
The 23 inches tire is excessive for this car...
@@mdev8846 With a D series, might as well go even smaller? Like something 13in?
@@aw614 In the middle is virtue ( no 23 inches tires, no 13 inches tires ).
Yokohama 052 is a great tire.
What is the stock size for the 95 civic? I'm on 195/55 r15 tho
What rims size is it for the 225/50/15 ?
Can you help:
I had flat tire today (pothole), front right side.
I drove 4x 215/50/17.
I had only r16 spare, so I ask for service help - they put same tire from back right to front right, and put a spare 225/50/17 on back right.
Will it affect my ride in any aspect (control, balance).. I drove to home pretty slower, because I was afraid of some sort of disbalance and stuff like that.. do I have to worry, and should I purchase same 215/50/17 as soon as possible?
Thanks
Hey car guys and gyals, so I have a 97 honda civic lxi, and I need help to find out what coilovers would be best for my car, TIA 💯🙏🏾
Not a civic but I'm running 17x9 245/40 in the front and 17x8 225/40 in the rear on my 99 Accord (Track build)... They look nice and meaty!
Nice! Haven't seen too many '99 Accords on track by me
@@RefineMovement she's almost out of the garage, can't wait to start making content with it 🙏🏿
Jdm BBS RG-F red lip + Michelin pilot sport 3 195/50r15 on my eg8 d15b 3 stage vtec.
175/65/R14 on my 1992 Civic VX
I’m currently gonna go fat fives onna eg 94 hatch 205/50/15
205 50 15 Nitto Neo Gens on 15x8 buddy club P1s on a 94 eg hatch
I'm currently running 205/50/15 on my 15x7 949Racing 6UL and my 15x7 Advanti Storm wheels. Wondering if 225/50/15 will fit? Robbie you're running 15x8 right?
Yeah, I have a 15x8. I'm pretty sure the 225/50 will fit on a 7" wheel. I'd imagine the tire would bubble over a decent amount.
@@RefineMovement Yeah i'd be worried about too much roll over on the sidewall...hmmm....must do more research.
The title although correct is still somewhat misleading. Tire compounds are so different that it doesn't matter what tire width you have. A stickier compound vs a street tire would always be grippy on track, that's a no brainer. what I want to know is would a difference in rim size matter at all... Everything should be the same, except rim size. For example 205/50 R15 vs 205/50 R17 on the same brand and model tires. Which would be faster in a track.
I'm running 225/255 stagger on my S2K
Niiiice. Sounds awesome
91 Civic SI 205 50 15 with rota Wheels
205/50/15 Hoosier SM7's on a Gen3 15x7+35 (either that or +38) 6UL wheel. Very chunky/blocky looking.
Ah very timely you made this video bro 'coz I'm having some trouble what wheels will perfectly fit in my car. I also have 92 eg hatch running on a 15x8 et20 195/50/15 tires. I'm not satisfied with the looks of it as it is an inch out in the fender. Please help me bro, please tell me what et i need on a 15x8 wheels. Your enkei 15x8 wheels are perfect, i just need to know the et/offset of that. Can you please tell me. Big thanks
+35 offset is where you want to be with the 90's Civics in my opinion. +32 to +35, any where in there is likely the look that you are trying to achieve.
@@RefineMovement so 15x8 +32 or +35 with 205/50/15 would be perfect. Thanks so much bro. God bless
That's what happens when you buy wheels in the wrong offset lol.
If you dropped the aspect ratio on the 225 to 45 or 40, I would have said 'that titre'...however, in this case, the 205/50 is the (most) right size out of these 2 and it just looks 'right'. The mesh wheel it is mounted on looks the part too. Also, the 205/50 is lighter than the 225/50. My vote is for the 205/50/15 tire. ✅__.:R🏁
94 cx gsr fat 5s 225/45/15 hankooks
205/50R17 on the ek thinking about a 225/45R17 for rainy weather
& 205/50R15 on dry summer time
No, you are wrong ( in a rainy day a bigger tire has aquaplanning ).So 225/ 45 R17 tire for dry summer; 205/50 R15 tire for rainy days.
@@mdev8846 agree but with some floods I’d much rather a little taller.
my next tire setup is gonna be a 225 45 15 Rt660 cuz im now k swapped.
Nice!
Rn on my civic 99 sedan running 195 45 15 te37 time attack
running 195/50 R15 No problem on my eg
Friend, you can't measure acceleration times like that with different wheel/tire sizes. Since the speedometer reading is related to the rotational speed of the wheels, your actual speed will never be the same at any given speedometer reading, when you compare wheel/tire setups with different circumference. What I mean is; when the speedometer needle is at 60mph, for example, your actual speed when using the wheel/tire setup with the larger circumference will be greater than your actual speed when using the wheel/tire setup with the smaller circumference.
Yes, I understand that now, and I didn't back then when I made that original video. Thank you!
work ewing rsb 15s and 195/50s period correct style
I’m on 205/45 16x8.0 but im thinking of going 205/50 oh I have this on my JDM dc2
I also was thinking about going to 15x8.0
I'm running 195/45/15 on my ef... Way to small of tire...
Newbie here
Bridgestone potenza re002 195/50/15 on 96 EK
1995 civic coupe 195/45/15
ek hatch 1997 staggered fallen azensis all around b20/b18c frankenstein building for road racing
16x8 225/50 16 up front
16x7.5 215/45 16 in the rear
175/70/13 for my ‘91 Civic.
13's, nice!
I didn't even know they still made those.
In this size, the best tire for daily driving is Dunlop Street Response 2.
I want a beefy setup
Im running 205 45 17s (work rims) on my honda civic sedan if you wanted a 90s look you got to have that bigger wheels 😂😂😂
I think it better to go light on wheel to have more speed just my opinion tho
I have 205 45 r17 front and 215 45 r17 rear
Just have to launch in higher rpm with 225's. Thats why the 205's had a better 0-60. You bogged with 225 and spun a little with 205. 225 are way better. Nothing wrong with 205's
195/40 on 16x8+15 klutch sl1
195/50/15 what I ran on my 95 eh2
My car still on jackstands.
195/50/15 Toyo Extensa hp2 for my daily....
195/50
I’m on stock rims for now 🤓
maybe ill raise my car and not be so slammed xD, runnin a 190/45/15 lmao
The 0-60 really isn’t super accurate, as there is a circumference size difference of 3.5%. It’s not going to make a giant difference but there are 29 less revolutions per mile on a 225, aka will read a lower speed on the speedo then the vehicle is traveling.
205/45/16 for street
235/40/17 for track
Hey mate I don’t think your 0-60 time where accurate as the 205/50/15 has a height of 23.1 inch and the 225/50/15 have a height of 23.9. Would be cool to see the same runs on a gps or even a quarter mile run to see what the difference is for 0-60
Yeah, totally agree with a gps it would be accurate. It was still fun to do hah
235/40/17 is the perfect size for BMW E36.
195/50/15
My older Civics are running a x7 195/50/15 and a x7 205/50/16 (wanted a 45 profile) on some old school wheels on an 84-87 Civic.
Helps the car grip up but the purist in me wants 13s but it's hard to keep it functional.
Why do you want a 45 profile ?.
@@mdev8846 I was pushing the limits and wanted to run a 45 profile for guard clearance
@@lloydshondabordello Ok. I understand you. Thank you for your answer.
In Europe the best tire in 13 inches is Dunlop Street Response 2.
@@mdev8846 In australia I do have some options but sizing is a limiting factor.
I do prefer smaller wheels but I need stopping power too.
I prefer a 195 /50/15
205 55 15 on ah ek hatch
195/45/15 on 15x9 cause I'm slow
Both of those are to much tire for stock/ bolt on set up the 205/50/15 is better choice because it’s not as tall. A 195/50/15 would do u better
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