@@talaniel It's the jacket that I'm not a fan of. They're assimilating her too much. The nightsister clothing she wore is a representation of her culture
It's weird Jedi Survivor is supposed to be more open world but somehow feels even more linear than Fallen Order. I liked the atmosphere in Fallen Order more, Survivor feels like too similar to GoW 2018.
The reason for this is for the 5 different styles they added. They needed more of a play-your-style kind of game then just giving you two styles to switch from. For example the staff saber is much less defensive as you can't buffer block since the animations are too long. And the single saber is slow but balances it out with heavier attacks.
@@Subremedy the staff is the most defensive and force friendly of all the stances, I think they rushed dual tbh it has absolutely no defense and doesn't stagger enough enemies when you're overwhelmed , I personally use single blade and staff because single is the most efficient and swift while staff lets you control how close your enemies get
@@stephencoleman1312 They all have their strengths in my opinion. Dual is really good during boss fights cause it's fast and wears down stamina really quickly. If you're good at parrying it's goated
It's a great game. Great story and they added just enough for the gameplay to not feel like I was still playing Fallen Order. I wish more studios would realize they don't need to reinvent the wheel every time they release a sequel to a game people largely liked. Fix the stuff people didn't like, add a little bit so it feels fresh, and focus on the story. When they're done with the series, then they can reinvent the wheel with the next series.
Fallen Order's art style just far superior than the Survivor. It simply looks amazing and runs a lot more stable. From the gameplay perspective Survivor improved A LOT from the previous game but Fallen Order is artisticly better in nearly every other aspect.
@@ma1istnope. Game looks worse, even on epic settings, the game is blurry with tons of pixelating and artefacting while the performance is significantly worse.
@@rover5058they didn’t forget, they were just too far deep into development by the time the tech became available. they said so in an interview that it was a lot of effort to redo a lot of their work in a different engine
And? This game has 3 times the content than the previous game, who still cares about graphics? Focusing on graphics reduces the amount of content we get and raises the price for the game
Personally I loved the animations looking almost the same in both games since it's the same character. The combat is much more fancy with a lot of the same combos. It's literally just him older and more experienced. His basic form is going to stay the same, just adding more moves
@@danmilli8068Imo survivor improved on fallen order on nearly every aspect. If you prefer fallen order its fine , but Survivor is objectively a much more impressive game . Survivor is better overall.
The double-bladed lightsaber has been massively upgraded since Fallen Order. I played Fallen Order and Survivor back to back and while the Survivor version is very smooth and elegant, the Fallen Order version feels very clunky and not as energetic.
Yes 100%. God of War showed that arena/roguelike modes can exist in modern story games. I hope the trend can continue because the biggest detriment to single player games in the modern era is player retention. People wanna play games endlessly without repeating content
I did not get a single unreal engine crash screen. I got zillions of freezes though :-D They really messed up this one :-) Not sure how it was when JFO was released - I bought it in 2022 IIRC, so probably patched to max already.
I hope they totally revamp the animation in the next one. You can tell they just tweaked a lot of the animations from FO. Even the basic running and walking animations look dated next to other current gen games.
😂 erm, you're left with a mediocre game then, because compared to that, survivor is much better in various aspects, performance is improving, the problem is Denuvo and making such a big game with good graphic quality by integrating that system.
Objectively false . Survivor has better visuals . If you played survivor you would know this . Lighting , environments and character detail , facial animation are way better in the sequal . Its honesly a big difference.
Exatamente oque penso, mas era muito mal otimizado, minha 580 que tem 3 x menos poder que a 6800 atual rodavam o fallen order a 40-60 FPS Já o survivor minha 6800 tá sofrendo em 44-77 fps, qual o motivo sendo que os gráficos nem mudaram tanto
Survivor would have been much better game if they simply copied graphics and optimization of fallen order rather than creating this unstable abomination. For me fallen order runs with nearly max graphics on 120 fps while in survivor i get unstable 40-50 with huge lags in big open areas REGARDLESS of graphic settings.
erm, you're left with a mediocre game then, because compared to that, survivor is much better in various aspects, performance is improving, the problem is Denuvo and making such a big game with good graphic quality by integrating that system.
@@Dyakko_Zayne LMAO the fact you legit believe such a idiotic claim is hilarious 😂 the graphics are literally the exact same as fallen order and the planets are only marginally bigger in scope but suddenly even powerhouse PCs can’t run it when those same PCs run fallen order flawlessly. Next gen my ass!
Fallen Order had much better visuals. The textures were cleaner, the lighting was good and it was stable. Jedi Survivor looks far too vibrant and many textures - especially hair textures look wonky and blurred. Jedi Survivor looks worse and runs worse than its predecessor. Bode's and Cordovas Face look like they're made in 2004 in terms of textures.
Funny cause survivor has allot of bugs and glitches of my time playing it but fallen order though I never had issues since it came out but Fallen order>>>
not a lot in it. character looks better in survivor for sure with better subsuface scattering. generally both really pretty games, but 2 things that arnt't great in either of them, motion blur is whack and when a level or area is loading in and you see all the textures at really low resolution then they pop into high quality isnt great. would be interested to see the 3rd game on unreal 5.
I disagree honestly, the story in Survivor seemed much more deep and impactful. Character development was also much better in Survivor. Just due to performance issues in some worlds I’ll say FO has better environment
they made it pretty easy for themselves and just copied most of the animations etc. combat system and finisher taken over.. actually sad that there were hardly any changes except for the story
Porque ficou tao pesado rodar esse jogos ? Minha rx580 rodava no alto/ultra o fallen order mesmo senso placa de entrada Ja o survivor minha 6800 ta no limite a 44-77 fps senso que os graficos estao a mesma merda ( jogo sem rtx)
Not sure which game I prefer honestly, -SPOILERS POSSIBLE IN THIS COMPARISON WARNING ⚠️ . . . . . . . . . FINAL SPOILER WARNING. . . . The story in Fallen Order is both more immediately gripping and emotional for me. The story in Survivor is more of a slow burn hits a sharp acceleration 3/4 of the way through. Fallen Orders smaller cast made for some great writing and moments, however it’s lacking the breadth of characters that Survivor brings to the table and that’s not to say the characters and moments aren’t good in Survivor. Fallen Order felt even more linear than Survivor. Combat felt more refined in Survivor. I slightly preferred the Zeffo mystery over the High Republic mystery. Dagan is a bit bland compared even to the other inquisitors in Fallen Order although Rayvis had enough personality to like. Bode was a good twist villain but Second Sister Trilla is hard to top as a main antagonist. Although I’m not even sure you can call Bode the “main” antagonist considering he was a twist villain that late in the game. As a pure Star Wars story-Fallen Order, by a few points Planets and environments-Fallen Order, although again not a huge landslide but they had a better and more varied selection of environments I’d say through the game. Gameplay-Survivor, way better this time around I’d say. Not even really close imo but maybe I just need to go back to FO. Which would I rather go back to on a completed file and mess around in-Survivor, lots to do and Pyloons is a gem. Pyloons Saloon characters and vibe bonus-Survivor. Enemy factions random dialogue that’s absolutely hilarious bonus-Survivor. Hopefully they bring the best of both worlds for the final instalment in the trilogy! “Jedi-Master” next?!
Cal has learned so many things in the last 5 years... but he forgot how to clean up the mantis and use his lightsaber as a flashlight 😂
And never learned to cut doors with lightsaber.
@@masstercz6138 Nah, he just needed to let Rick have his moment... his last moment
nah he can still use it as a flashlight
Survivor is better in literaly all, but performance, simple fact
IDK, I liked JFO Merrin design more :-)
The only performance it struggles with is the water
Don't worry, some clown will find something to nit-pick.
@@sambingham1196 unless if it's something you agree with right?
@@talaniel It's the jacket that I'm not a fan of. They're assimilating her too much. The nightsister clothing she wore is a representation of her culture
The gameplay in Jedi Fallen Order feels loose but in Survivor it feels strict.
Almost like it has a hint of turn based combat
It's weird Jedi Survivor is supposed to be more open world but somehow feels even more linear than Fallen Order. I liked the atmosphere in Fallen Order more, Survivor feels like too similar to GoW 2018.
The reason for this is for the 5 different styles they added. They needed more of a play-your-style kind of game then just giving you two styles to switch from. For example the staff saber is much less defensive as you can't buffer block since the animations are too long. And the single saber is slow but balances it out with heavier attacks.
@@Subremedy the staff is the most defensive and force friendly of all the stances, I think they rushed dual tbh it has absolutely no defense and doesn't stagger enough enemies when you're overwhelmed , I personally use single blade and staff because single is the most efficient and swift while staff lets you control how close your enemies get
@@stephencoleman1312 They all have their strengths in my opinion. Dual is really good during boss fights cause it's fast and wears down stamina really quickly. If you're good at parrying it's goated
I’m really enjoying this game, just started and been playing for a couple hours and still have a ways to go
It's a great game. Great story and they added just enough for the gameplay to not feel like I was still playing Fallen Order. I wish more studios would realize they don't need to reinvent the wheel every time they release a sequel to a game people largely liked. Fix the stuff people didn't like, add a little bit so it feels fresh, and focus on the story. When they're done with the series, then they can reinvent the wheel with the next series.
@@btbarr16 absolutely
Fallen Order's art style just far superior than the Survivor. It simply looks amazing and runs a lot more stable. From the gameplay perspective Survivor improved A LOT from the previous game but Fallen Order is artisticly better in nearly every other aspect.
What load of crap lol. Survivor is just more polished and prettier in every way
@@ma1istnope. Game looks worse, even on epic settings, the game is blurry with tons of pixelating and artefacting while the performance is significantly worse.
Am I the only one who prefers the more Centred camera angle in fallen order?
About the star wars game? The fallen and survivor is very intense
In my opinion the lightsaber colors in Jedi Fallen Order are better and the different ignition sounds too.
Right point bro
I honestly like fallen order more
Survivor is better in every way except the story. Like I want to fight the empire not bounty hunters.
Yeah, I have to give it to Fallen order.
@@ronanadub7156 Thats your opinion lol
I miss when 4 years in the gaming industry had a huge leap in graphics, nowadays it's literally the same graphics😢
This is EA's fault, because they forgot to port the game to Unreal Engine 5 mid development.
@@rover5058they didn’t forget, they were just too far deep into development by the time the tech became available. they said so in an interview that it was a lot of effort to redo a lot of their work in a different engine
True! Difference between a 2003 and 2007 game was very big. Prince of Persia to Crysis.
And?
This game has 3 times the content than the previous game, who still cares about graphics?
Focusing on graphics reduces the amount of content we get and raises the price for the game
@@theelectricprince8231 i care
Survivor just has slightly more detail in the gameplay and the environments that is all.
Personally I loved the animations looking almost the same in both games since it's the same character. The combat is much more fancy with a lot of the same combos. It's literally just him older and more experienced. His basic form is going to stay the same, just adding more moves
amazing work guys
The video would be better if you synchronised movements in face-to-face comparison moments
fallen order felt more like star wars. it was a balanced game.
Survivor isn't balanced? hmm?
@@Subremedy i have my opinions
@@danmilli8068 ur opinion is wrong but I guess ur entitled to your wrong opinion
@@vprometheussv8590 what do you think?
@@danmilli8068Imo survivor improved on fallen order on nearly every aspect. If you prefer fallen order its fine , but Survivor is objectively a much more impressive game . Survivor is better overall.
Maybe when the new star wars game will release jedi survivor will be finally optimised
Lowkey like Fallen Order more. Padding was already an issue but Survivor straight up doesnt respect your time
The double-bladed lightsaber has been massively upgraded since Fallen Order. I played Fallen Order and Survivor back to back and while the Survivor version is very smooth and elegant, the Fallen Order version feels very clunky and not as energetic.
I hate that they removed the combos from single to double lightsaber in Jedi survivor
They should definitely add the battle grid mode from Fallen Order game +
Yes 100%. God of War showed that arena/roguelike modes can exist in modern story games. I hope the trend can continue because the biggest detriment to single player games in the modern era is player retention. People wanna play games endlessly without repeating content
@@NoCluYTat least if you're on pc you are guaranteed to have mods like ai spawner
MIght as well be an image with actual content versus an unreal engine crash screen. So many crashes, it really doesn't matter.
I did not get a single unreal engine crash screen.
I got zillions of freezes though :-D They really messed up this one :-) Not sure how it was when JFO was released - I bought it in 2022 IIRC, so probably patched to max already.
Is the performance better now or Jedi survivor
fallen order feel tense like souls game while survivor give me action vibe
I hope they totally revamp the animation in the next one. You can tell they just tweaked a lot of the animations from FO. Even the basic running and walking animations look dated next to other current gen games.
i love that synthwave
About halfway through survivor and the story and characters pale in comparison to fallen order. Survivor feels like a generic hack and slash game.
😂 erm, you're left with a mediocre game then, because compared to that, survivor is much better in various aspects, performance is improving, the problem is Denuvo and making such a big game with good graphic quality by integrating that system.
fallen order is more dark and best graphics
Objectively false . Survivor has better visuals . If you played survivor you would know this . Lighting , environments and character detail , facial animation are way better in the sequal . Its honesly a big difference.
@@johnmack7013 oBjEctIveLy
Story, animations, locations, characters, atmosphere and little details are better in fallen order. Survivour is bigger but bigger is not better.
Cere got cancer now?
Tanto se nota la diferencia como para no sacarlo en ps4 o xbox one?
Exatamente oque penso, mas era muito mal otimizado, minha 580 que tem 3 x menos poder que a 6800 atual rodavam o fallen order a 40-60 FPS
Já o survivor minha 6800 tá sofrendo em 44-77 fps, qual o motivo sendo que os gráficos nem mudaram tanto
BD-1 it was much better designed in Fallen Order...
Survivor would have been much better game if they simply copied graphics and optimization of fallen order rather than creating this unstable abomination. For me fallen order runs with nearly max graphics on 120 fps while in survivor i get unstable 40-50 with huge lags in big open areas REGARDLESS of graphic settings.
erm, you're left with a mediocre game then, because compared to that, survivor is much better in various aspects, performance is improving, the problem is Denuvo and making such a big game with good graphic quality by integrating that system.
@@Dyakko_Zayne LMAO the fact you legit believe such a idiotic claim is hilarious 😂 the graphics are literally the exact same as fallen order and the planets are only marginally bigger in scope but suddenly even powerhouse PCs can’t run it when those same PCs run fallen order flawlessly. Next gen my ass!
@@Dyakko_Zayne what he said is that he prefers good optimization instead of graphics, most of us are! he didn't said anything about the game.
oh poor you expecting a perfect game at launch
@@ZildoghUNTER no he wants bare minimum lol
Fallen Order had much better visuals. The textures were cleaner, the lighting was good and it was stable. Jedi Survivor looks far too vibrant and many textures - especially hair textures look wonky and blurred. Jedi Survivor looks worse and runs worse than its predecessor. Bode's and Cordovas Face look like they're made in 2004 in terms of textures.
Survivor looks better. They fixed a lot of what wasn't a part of FO
You need a doctor. A good one, lol
@@andreatoppi5627 1:41 You can't be serious
Funny cause survivor has allot of bugs and glitches of my time playing it but fallen order though I never had issues since it came out but Fallen order>>>
Survivor IS fire.....i Hope dlc for visite more systèm....and maybe another game with master castis and New History
THAT NOT DIFREAND BUT WHY SURVIVOR NEED MORE PERFOMENCE
fo has more art design
not a lot in it. character looks better in survivor for sure with better subsuface scattering. generally both really pretty games, but 2 things that arnt't great in either of them, motion blur is whack and when a level or area is loading in and you see all the textures at really low resolution then they pop into high quality isnt great. would be interested to see the 3rd game on unreal 5.
You can turn off motion blur..
Masterpiece
Same story??
The graphics is only slightly better. Liek the difference is very small.
From a 10 minute video?
You havent played Fallen Order
You havent played Jedi Survivor
Lol
Song?
New!
Fallen order had better environments and story
I agree with story but not environment.
Totally agree.
I disagree honestly, the story in Survivor seemed much more deep and impactful. Character development was also much better in Survivor. Just due to performance issues in some worlds I’ll say FO has better environment
first games story was so boring ong.
@@catdix_shorts9596 yea coming back to this comment idk why I said this
I thought Merrin looked better in survivor
they made it pretty easy for themselves and just copied most of the animations etc. combat system and finisher taken over.. actually sad that there were hardly any changes except for the story
There's dual saber, blaster and crossguard stance. You can't just say they didn't add anything new
You did not play the game
why next gen title looks so bad? and old gen title looking much better.....???😮😂 wired.....
Porque ficou tao pesado rodar esse jogos ? Minha rx580 rodava no alto/ultra o fallen order mesmo senso placa de entrada
Ja o survivor minha 6800 ta no limite a 44-77 fps senso que os graficos estao a mesma merda ( jogo sem rtx)
It's EA this the best they can make, just clean up their first version and added new combat movements
Really doubt that you played survivor . Survivor is a phenomenal game and improved on nearly every aspect.
Play the game
faces are better in fallen order
Not sure which game I prefer honestly, -SPOILERS POSSIBLE IN THIS COMPARISON WARNING ⚠️
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The story in Fallen Order is both more immediately gripping and emotional for me. The story in Survivor is more of a slow burn hits a sharp acceleration 3/4 of the way through. Fallen Orders smaller cast made for some great writing and moments, however it’s lacking the breadth of characters that Survivor brings to the table and that’s not to say the characters and moments aren’t good in Survivor. Fallen Order felt even more linear than Survivor. Combat felt more refined in Survivor. I slightly preferred the Zeffo mystery over the High Republic mystery. Dagan is a bit bland compared even to the other inquisitors in Fallen Order although Rayvis had enough personality to like. Bode was a good twist villain but Second Sister Trilla is hard to top as a main antagonist. Although I’m not even sure you can call Bode the “main” antagonist considering he was a twist villain that late in the game.
As a pure Star Wars story-Fallen Order, by a few points
Planets and environments-Fallen Order, although again not a huge landslide but they had a better and more varied selection of environments I’d say through the game.
Gameplay-Survivor, way better this time around I’d say. Not even really close imo but maybe I just need to go back to FO.
Which would I rather go back to on a completed file and mess around in-Survivor, lots to do and Pyloons is a gem.
Pyloons Saloon characters and vibe bonus-Survivor.
Enemy factions random dialogue that’s absolutely hilarious bonus-Survivor.
Hopefully they bring the best of both worlds for the final instalment in the trilogy!
“Jedi-Master” next?!
一整個就是無雙的感覺
1:41 everything we need to know
3:54 big L for Jedi Survivor