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Even if you don't like her, we can agree this is weird as hell. Some people feel too comfortable behind their screens.
And that is why people are very comfortable to throw pedo accusations & serious slurs insults at others.
Mike Tyson was right all along
yeah its weird as hell,but this is Enna we talking about right? I used to watched Enna back in the day she would jump at any given chance to say she is a virgin so it not that strange if she caught the attention of the trolls after recent event, don't like the troll but she kinda had it coming, saying weird shit on stream, get harass by weirdo.
Isn't that idol in general. They create this image that an idol need to be pure even though they probably married like that anime call oshi no ko
@@zeasygamers1189 yeah but nijisanji never follow that premise only hololive did and even they aren't strictly follow the idol rule either , look at Rushia she was married way before she was terminated and her marriage status only came out after her ex-husband sued her.
The fact that the person is even sending superchats to troll about it.
There goes at least $15.
Meanwhile at Hololive on occasion haters would spend hundreds to troll the girls usually out of joke. Sometimes though Holo haters are unhinged as heck.
@@KureijiOllieZomerade "Usually out of joke", that's how powerful the Holo fanbase was. Nobody want to directly mess with them.
@@ThatchNetherfold nah, there's genuienly hate superchat, like Miko's case that made her cried...
@@topazokenni4869wow how mature that guy or gal is xD
@@topazokenni4869I remembered that. She then went on to say 'if you want to clip this, clip the whole thing'.
Basically from the hate superchat, to her crying, to her getting better because she knows she's loved, to her message to clippers. Admirable baby, right there
What’s so good about trolling Enna about her virginity?
i guess its a mixture of her being a spiteful person, not being traditionally attractive, and her self-depricating 'humor' regarding said virginity but people can think of worse
I don't know. I don't like what she said as actually mentally ill people don't need to be lumped in with this, but this is way too low even for a niji hater. It's not a place you go when the actual issue has nothing to do with it. It's just gross and creepy.
Edit just to clarify: Not a Niji fan or even a niji liker, but these antis are taking it too far
Enna talked about a past relationship in a members-only stream, so she's clearly not a virgin. Her pretending to be one is certainly questionable even if I don't condone the troll who harasses her.
Not that whether she is a virgin or not matters but you do realize that people can be in relationships without having sex right?
@@peachiieke39 No literally. I thought that was common knowledge. I’m starting to think common isn’t as common as I thought.
Harassing somebody over their virginity is ridiculous and makes you look insecure. It's honestly quite pathetic and people like that need help.
agree. i mean there are religion which sex before marriage is greatly forbidden lol
@@alimyusmanto6677 And then there are also those who just prefer to not go with before marriage. Their the ones more likely to stick with it due to being a personal preference. It's well know just what the leaders of different churches have done after all.
@@irystocratictakodachithatmooms To be fair, this was a prespective that I can understand even if I'm not a woman. Pregnancy is a huge risk to women in so many ways, so its natural that they want assurance before taking risks. Sex itself is like gambling in a sense, the only difference being that there is only one first free bet for women - nobody likes an unguarnanteed risk unless you're a born gambler.
@@ThatchNetherfold Well I'm not a woman myself but hold that view. I'd rather not be stuck with child support payments. I know, it's rather selfish with that being the reason.
@@irystocratictakodachithatmooms as Trad Asian, I hate that opinion so much. You touch someone daughter, prepare to fullfil your duty as her husband.
There is so much single mother struggle in the free sex country. And it's not fcking freedom of choice, it's selfish and animalish behavior. Sex and then run? What? You human have brain and heart not like animals
This is f*cked up. Shouldn't the manager be able to monitor-
...oh right, Niji managers don't give a damn about their vtubers.
Wrong. Riku as a whole don't care about Vtubing that is why he hires cheap & dog crap managers.
Millie was too busy moderating reddit and editing the wiki for the glory of the clique.
the talents were managing each other. ie. bullying.
@@matrielle It's spelled as MILLLE with 3 Ls, bro.
@@matrielle What's your source for the "Managers"? 4chan?
Bullying the talents? No, no, that's not the way. No need to make this personal.
Seeing the EN viewership crumble and their festivals half empty is the way to get even with the company.
Trolls like this are irredeemable.
Meanwhile at Hololive EN: Days with Ollie, Spreading of Jdon my soul, FuwaMoco JP collabs & more Ws.
@@KureijiOllieZomerade NOEEEHHHH NOEEEHHHHHHH
@@Tooyule doggos
Yah trolls don’t care about Doki just their own power trip
@@KureijiOllieZomerade Yagoo Suffering from Success. Also don't forget Fuwawa PoV & Mococo PoV streams are now available.
I believe we've progressed far enough as a society to not care whether or not a person is still a virgin. Holy shit, brother, get a grip.
Unfortunately those that don't care are still a minority.
Frankly, Anti or otherwise, this is unacceptable behavior by anyone. I know Enna is playing it cool, and doing her usual thing when it comes to people like this, but I honestly think she should be a bit more careful. This person feels like they're very close to crossing the line from anti to stalker.
Which ironically again showed Niji's terrible management of Enna's GENERAL addressing of Niji-haters instead of targeting solely those trolls. Khyo was right at this point, it was supposedly targeting trolls, but somehow the general constructive critics were burnt along with them.
Yeah. These trolling behaviour would make the real/legit criticism to Nijisanji being dismissed.
I don’t like Enna, but the harassment from that anti is pushing it. Hate donating is pretty cringe
Tbh, it could be psyops again if they're hate donating so that people champion the talent. If that's a true hater, that person is dumb
Just be apathetic if you hate them. That's the worse you could do because streamers who are truly weak start malding over a little loss of attention. It happens on youtube as it is when the algorithm changes and creators start panicking that they're losing views and go to extremes even though the reality is that youtube just didn't push them
@@littlebee7147 Not every thing is a psyops, I know people who would destroy their lives just to make sure the person they hate got bothered for a day.
This reminded me in the Minecraft community basically at that time there's 2 big mc TH-camr on the top spotlight it is Technoblade(rip) and Dream, they are friend irl but the fandom likes to argue who's the best, I watch the techno stream and everyone literally sending SC just to mock Dream and his fans, so yeah my point is there's a lot of people that willing to pay to do that
"Cringe" doesn't go far enough. In a just world, there'd be a restraining order placed upon them.
@@guysplease778 its been a WHILE since that period, Dream got hates on for other reasons since
If this guy was doing this to a holo member, their ass would have been destroyed after the birthday board stream.
Did the guy that sent 100$ to calli as condom funds get destroyed ??
@@warlockwarlord169 Not really, but she gave that money to someone else.
@@warlockwarlord169the *WHAT* ?!
Is it connected to the horse video? @@warlockwarlord169
@@warlockwarlord169tbf that wasn't that bad, it was like one time and could still be seen as a bad joke, this guy has done it so much it's not even funny anymore
I don't like Enna however going against her like this is too far. We said don't harass the talents yet they do so.
"We" and "they" are not same. They just antis.
As long as we don't do the same, it's all that matters.
No it's not too far. It should go further.
@@andoryusaccelerate
@@andoryus What do you mean by that? It's not good to harass people nor the talents they may have "speculations" and is in a black company doesn't we can harass them. ._.
So she can drive someone to the point of su'cide *TWICE* and then simply say sorry, but when the public does little trolling is too much?
How does that works?
The Anti really needs help like their hatred is turning into harassment, for the long run it's not gonna do any good to them. They shouldn't be obsessing over her virginity.
Even if she lost her virginity so? What is the point that guy trying to make here? He act as if she is the only woman to do that.
@@NerissaRavencroftJailbird From what i had read in the comment of people who used to watch her or who hate her, they dont care about her virginity. They dont care or have problem with Enna being virgin or not. But, they got annoyed by Enna telling them she is virgin again and again. Trolls use this as an excuse to attack her. I also dont care about Enna's virginity. All the vtubers i'm watching may act all innocent,pure and virgin but they never said they're virgin to chat again and again. I would be annoy too.
If i was enna i would just said it. That's right you fuck i lost my virginity long ago to quinn😂
Alright, so I did some digging into this by checking out some archived posts that is supposedly from her members / former members instead of just reading some reddit thread, and here's a summary of what I found:
- Enna apparently talks a lot about her virginity in her older members streams to the point where she keeps a counter for them. She herself stated that the moment she stops talking about it is the moment she's no longer a virgin.
- Fast forward to a time where she went to an Air BnB in Paris (I assume this is different from the one she had with Kyo?) and some of her members noticed how she no longer brings up her virginity after that event. Those people have now assumed that she's no longer a virgin because of it.
- That would explain why those harassers keep bringing up the topic so that they could get an answer from Enna. It's likely that this dedicated anti may very well be one of her most dedicated supporters back then.
I'm not sure how true these claims are so take those words with a grain of salt. Feel free to correct whatever is said here.
I'm just the messenger anyways, thus I have no stakes on this debacle.
Sounds about right. The situation has the feel of toxic fan moreso than random troll.
Not sure I buy that the stalker was the only person she was referencing in her earlier comment, but I would be lying if i said I really cared either way about that.
She did this to herself 😂😂😂
Now Enna should attempt
@@YoukaiFofo Make coherent sense.
Enna's been having haters for a long time. What the hell are you talking about? She was still talking about her virginity after the Kyo collab which was at her house. lol. You don't watch her while I an aloupeep do. She's been talking about it since the first few months from her debut lol. It was part of her comedy bit. She's a grown woman and has nothing to do with you or anybody. That information of her talking about she's a virgin is not for outsides like you but for her members as she's comfortable enough to talk about that type of stuff to us out of her own volition but since sociopathic weirdo's like you and others make it your business for some deranged reason running ya mouths I think it's best Enna doesn't talk about that no more.
Ok, this is a complete creep stalker at this point.
Imagine SC'ing your "Enna Lost her virginity" post just to prove your trolling skills. People these days.
yes, they should encourage her instead to go to Aokigahara Forest and hang around amongst the trees....
@@ShadowMoon878brub
@@ShadowMoon878what make us different from the bully who nearly make doki go offline
@@ShadowMoon878 People wish that's what your mother would do.
@@ShadowMoon878 That was just a horrible comment what you just said. Is not funny, is not clever, is not cool
Listen i dont like Niji, but this person is a freak 🙄
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
...ok it definitely makes her statement more reasonable assuming thats the person she's referring to, that guy needs help
Anyways really happy the idolES girls debuted they were all amazing
Boycott, but do not harass.
No. Harass.
@@andoryusdamn are you virgin
@@andoryus, not like this. Boycott, but do not harass. ESPECIALLY LIKE THIS.
@@andoryus no harassing is going to do more harm then good
@@andoryusHarassing only makes things worse, even for you.
Boycotting is a lot saner, and it takes a lot less energy and stress.
Absolutely fatherless behavior from that creep. I do not support most of the Niji members now but being that unhinged in a livestream is absolutely pitiful smfh
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
Thats crossing the line, thats not anti thats harassment....
Let's be real. This isn't a troll or anti this is a stalker / harassment nothing more nothing less.
Does this guy think if she says she is not a virgin people are gonna hate her. Who cares?!
I think its more the fact that she - alledgely - lied about it constantly. And that it was a way to appear "idol-like" or just lead viewers on to get more donations.
But it doesn't change the fact that troll is lame and harassing someone like that is gross and immature.
well, that is a term for woe street girl.
@Bloodstar6078 To be honest expecting a person to be 100% real on the internet especially a vtuber who's supposed to play a fictional character is kinda absurd. Unless they don't cause harm like saying harmful stuff there shouldn't be a reason to be overly concerned about the streamer. Like some people act like it's a girlfriend who cheated on them even though they are strangers. Wich is probably the most disturbing and disgusting part of idol culture ...
@@JustMeAPotatoe something something parasocial?
Just a different way to calling out a hoe imo
Enna is right antis like that have a problem. I personally don't watch nijisanji because I don't like how their company handle things, but not because of that I go out of my way to comment negative things under every liver they have. In general I don't even know what they are doing.
Agreed
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
Disagreed. Antis like that are good
This is the first time i've even heard of MyHolo TV, which seems a little late.
too late
I very much dislike Enna she got away with indirectly almost killing doki but I keep my opinions away from her channels as there's people who do like her for some reason and I don't want to disturb them just trying to vibe.
Agreed
i agree too
Disagreed. They should not feel happy
Was she one of the people that bullied doki?
@@renegade4x4 apparently yes my guess
That guys a psycho, the respectable antis disavow him. It’s none of anyone’s business what Enna does off-stream in her private life and that purity culture mentality is gross and weird
man, where's your "buhbye"?
NOOOOOO I CUT IT ON ACCIDENT
Shit like this is why I keep saying we should hold our tongues on who is or if there even are bullies. It just gives bad actors a target who doesn't deserve what they're willing to do to them, regardless of the target's actual innocence. People have just been accepting anything that paints the livers in a bad light without giving it absolute scrutiny, especially the stuff that Niji, y'know the BLACK COMPANY that by definition would be willing to throw them all out if it benefits them, has said while all terminated livers have remained silent on potential bullies.
Demanding someone "tell their fans" when/if they lose their virginity is an INSANE thing to do.
And to be so obsessed with it???
Naww. Come on man. Enna doesn't deserve that.
I may no longer like Niji EN, but that guy definitely took it too far. Like why spend money just to harass someone?
Dude might’ve better off hiring a fucking hit man at that point with how comfortable he’s spending “hate money”
(No, I am not endorsing actual assassination, it’s a joke, know your place sisters)
Even if you don't like her with some valid reasons here. You can't just do this here. The best way to stop support is not Watch her at all. Don't do this bullying friends
this person seems like a deranged stalker more than an anti
Man, to think the only dramas currently going on in Agencies like Hololive and Phase Connect is Fuwamoco doing JP streams and a growing segment of the Phase fanbase being convinced Sakana and Dizzy are married (that includes me).
Ngl, most people probably support them together lol
And the thing that i really can't piece together, is why in the actual fuck the private sentimental relations of X streamers should be considered as matter of controversies and dramas by the fandom in first place?
Do people realize that Dizzy doesn't even know who her fans are, let alone that she's unaware of their singular existence?
If they are I would be surprised that the other talents could keep their mouths shut
I don't know much about Phase but isn't Sakana the boss? That seems like a conflict of interest that could lead to some problems. Potentials SH claims against him and the company if the relationship goes bad, but also could just cause favoritism or appearances of favoratism. Just generally not a good idea if you are a serious business person.
@@jador9641 Oh, I'm sorry, I'm leaving out important context.
It's not a matter that the audience is mad about Sakana and Dizzy likely being married. The controversy is we BADLY WANTS Sakana and Dizzy to be married.
Everytime they're together or talk about each other, it's so cute and playful.
This dude has been against her for a while even before all of this. i was in that membership stream since i was still a aloupeep then and he also was on chat saying why did we watch her when she was lying about her relationships because she was kyos GF. Those comments from that person can also be found on some clippers videos
She calls him "bestie", he's in the friend zone. Guys in the friend zone are never boyfriends
Several accounts same outcome, sounds like a friend who first supports you and then tries to be the worst enemy you can ever imagine.
Anyone who harasses needs to go touch grass
Enna arguments always has that air of "Holier-than-thou" Type of shit.
It's honestly infuriating.
In the past, before doki shit, I still see it as playful at best and maybe detached dark sarcasm at worst.
But then doki shit brought to light. Shit suddenly turn for the worse when you look back to whatever her unhinged arguments she have in the past. I can't never see her the same way.
I won't count any of her banter with her co-workers that many been debating on some other comments and on khyo other video, you decide on those shit yourself, I mean strictly just when she talk to "chat" Arguments she usually have.
And just that, it's still infuriating
What seemed clumsy and kinda endearing in the past seems cruel and ignorant now, I agree.
we say unhinged sht with your friends when playing game all the time while laughing together . if they are offended then they are not friends basically :v
I always figured it was just how she tried to be entertaining. Legit my first chat on her streams was "You seem kinda mean." And she tried to explain it. It's not a joke, she acrively tries to drive away people she doesn't like. Too many nasty snaps and quips about collabs when talking with chat led me to believe she wasn't a very good person.
@@heideknight9122 it's normal to drive away ppl you don't like from you . But , talk to them directly not behind their backs and no need to persuade other ppl to hate ppl that you don't like . Persuading ppl to hate someone is a bad behavior. Asmon ban ppl everyday on his chat if they are rude and said stupid argument hahaha . It is freedom of speech but , you can clean up your media too it is in your rights .
I like how the comment section when from targeting the talents for Niji’s wrong doings to actually have the brain to reflect on how ridiculous it is. People really love to repeat when they did to Sayu a year ago to other talents and thought they’re doing the right thing this time. Have we learned nothing? Have we not listened to Doki, Sayu, the lawyers, and other former Niji members to remain neutral on the stance?
Now explain to me how a troll and virginity connect with Doki, Selen and being neutral?
No this comment section and the dramatubers don’t care khyo just like a comment agree with misinformation on enna so they don’t learn what so ever. There goal is target anyone for doki
Yeah but if the same happened to their favorite streamer it would be totally unacceptable...
@@IsaacBelliniKhyo mentioned it in this video early on that he made a video on this situation already and posted it a few days ago and in that video the comment section was full of negativity, insults and criticisms about Enna's actions and alot more. This comment is referring to the fact people in our community keep harassing vtubers without pure factual evidence and mostly just speculation.
I like how this comment section is also filled with e-crusaders who are convinced that a "comment section" is a monolith.
The question is: Why so hung up about that topic? of all the other topics. Sounds childish... unless.... and just a little hunch. This person isn't an anti-Enna, but someone who is doing this on purpose to generate controversy and point fingers at, like when you point out someone is a victim of a circumstance.
If anyone see the video analyzing Zaion/Sayu's termination yesterday, it seems to follow this pattern of "an event that make a wronged party see as a victim as well".
I don't said is maybe that as a fact, it could be just someone that really hates Enna that much for some stupid reason.
I also see it this way, of all the things that happened, the troll sends a super chat talking about virginity?
And Enna doing that stream where anyone could draw anything right after the drama was really weird.
@@IsaacBellini yeah! i been questioning it since something seems ... odd! to much convenient for someone who was also in the eye of the storm not so long ago.
someone already explained the virginity thing but the tldr is
ena used to yap about the fact she's a virgin in member streams up until she visited paris and she stopped yapping about it so members have assumed she lost it around that time. so most likely the dude is not an anti per say more like a unicorn who hated the fact his oshi is not longer a virgin
@@greatninja2590 i guess so. That makes more sense.
adding onto the tldr of a summary of a reddit post. Her paris stream was 2 months ago. While your argument has validity it cant necessarily be proven. If we back track even more, while this maybe separate because its holo drama. During the taiwan incident Fubuki was one of the most popular vtubers in bilibili having around 1million subs. She had interacted with Coco and had her sub count halved in an instant and had her youtube chat be spammed by one person and a couple more used bots to spam her. The incident wasnt just her many other livers went through the same treatment. From what has been seen from that time it was around the same individuals who did that. If we were to apply thst to that scenario and imo it still fits because the mistake and what set all of it off in the first place was childish (context: Haachama went on stream and checked out her analytics on stream and referred to taiwan as a country because it was stated in the analytics that it was. She got hate but forgiven because the chinese thought it was a mistake. Coco who was asleep during the drama tried to do the same and repeated the same mistake in which made the chinese explode on her. And well history is history). If we are to put your theory to the test that incident wouldn't be able to be applied because it wasnt what happened. What happened was it was straight uo angry people. While i agree thst seems like something plausible i think its best we dont speculate and just think of the person as a delusional fan who was probably a parasocial delusional fan and now is angry about the silence considering the virginity rants were mostly in membership streams. if not just a troll.
First of all: We have NO evidence that Enna was one of the Bullies, she could’ve been a witness of the Bullying for all we know.
Second of all: Everyone who actively harass Niji Livers like the one in Enna’s Streams are just as pathetic as the. Bullies.
For me personally I do not watch NijisanjiEN anymore since we dont know who the Bullies were + the Company itself is sh*t but I would NEVER bully anyone especially when I dont know who bullied Doki. Just let them be and be glad we got Doki back and happy.
It's not even good trolling; it just sounds like they're jealous that Enna gets more action than them. I'm not condoning it, mind you; just that if you're going to, do better than this guy so that you, the troll, doesn't just sound pathetic.
I disagree. It is very effective trolling. He not only pissed off Enna but a lot of people too. Just check the comment sections.
I dont really know much about Enna specifically beyond the SUS clip of her talking about "people digging for the truth" but if its about people like that guy spamming hate supers over virginity, yea....I get it. That shit is cringe.
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
The "digging for the truth" was out of context, the whole thing was basically "Don't ruin your mental health digging for the truth"
Hating people is alright (not saying it is good) but to a limit. I like enna and the some of the other nijisanji en livers except the three and the company. I dislike seeing a vtuber or streamer getting continuously trolled or hate for doing something that they have apologized.
This is sad. Donating money to send hate is beyond pathetic. The fact that they care so much about "her virginity" is peak incel behavior.
Like who cares about virginity? I'm an aroace, so maybe I'm just mentally behind on the subject, but i feel like that kind of stuff shouldnt matter or should be private. It makes no sense
Listen I don't have any respect for Enna, she lost that a long time ago. But constantly anti'ing her and harassing her in her own streams is something I would never do. If someone I watch collabs with someone I don't like I just don't watch the stream.
Hopefully this dude trolling her gets a life and grows up, this is childish behaviour.
I agree I do the same thing
Looking forward to Mozzu 2
Well That's just the price of being well known on the Internet. You're gonna get these types of people if you people starts noticing you
Honestly, I would love to see more insane individuals leave other companies alone and instead focus on shit talking Enna, she's such a nasty individual.
Do you have proof, because you could say that about anyone
I liked Enna--I enjoyed her darker sense of humor and the girl can sing. But after everything coming to light with Niji, I refuse to subscribe or watch any of their livers. And while admittedly, there is an air of distrust also preventing me from watching regarding how they handled the Selen/Doki situation, I've never once seen a reason to go to their streams to make a comment, chat, or even give their videos/streams a single extra view.
That harasser is deplorable though.
I want to remind everyone that the statement that she bullied Selen is not confirmed. And It's very sad that people are harassing / bullying her even tho it is mostly the agency's fault.
I want proof but the Dokitards don't actually give shit for anyone
Not a fan of Enna, but she should probably look into some kind of legal action against that stalker. She has her share of sins, but her sex life is none of our business. Sounds like someone with a parasocial attachment to her felt betrayed by a rumor.
8:25 I just saw their first vtuber streamed something abiut breaking silence.
LoL, the title in the thumbnail made me think Enna has beef with Target (the store)
jfc, I hate nijisanji with all my heart and Enna is one of the prime suspects for the internal harrasment.
But fucking hell, this isn't just trolling or whatever, this is straight up sexual harrasment and abuse.
Selen is my absolute kami oshi but like the way to resist against her possible bullies and former companies is to just treat them like air not this disgusting behavior
yaknow as much as i do not really like enna, i have to agree with her saying that person is a bit mentally ill or something is not right with them
Forgive me if this makes me look like a "nijisister" or "NDF", but Enna isn't entirely wrong (in the clip shown at the beginning). There ARE antis that only hate and hate, instead of ignoring and focusing on important things. Whether you like her or not, focusing so much in another person is never healthy in the long run.
Moving to the weirdo that bothers her with the virginity thing; creepy, extremely bizarre. Is it really a troll? Seems more like a REAL mentally ill person :/
And finally speaking about IdolES: As a Dominican, I'm excited for seeing more content from them. Unfortunately I can't support them monetarily, but I'll try watching their streams from time to time.
I believe Enna gotten confused with an anti as critics, whcih kindish makes it less believable. (I understood what she's saying, but it's misinterpreted severely. What she meant to say is the haters or the harassers that are mental ill, not the critcs. Which makes that statement makes sense if she interpret it like that.)
sadly tho enna will always be a target for hate, shes had antis since months before the selen incidents and the fact that she is considered the "most likely bully" only makes it worse
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
You should attempt along with your Enna
@@andoryus ? Be a little bit more clear
Even Nijisisters and some Niji livers dislike Khyo,he still talk nice about Enna
To that one Enna's troll : who hurt you? No, seriously, who hurt you?
I really don't understand people who's willing to throw away their money just to send troll/hate message. Seen this happened a few times before with other vtuber and on ridiculous amount too. Like, if someone sending that kind of stuff with 300 dollar red superchat, it really makes me wonder if it's really their own money or just some spoiled rich kid throwing their parent's money like nobody's business.
But, really, get some help. If you really doing things like these repeatedly, there's really something wrong with your head.
Great, the guy going after Enna because of her love life gave me strong Oshi No Ko flashbacks
Imagine coming to a Nijisanji Enna's stream and supporting them financially by giving them super-chats and engagement just so you can bully her on-stream.
That being said, Enna was very vague in her statement. Considering the way she addressed the situation, I doubt she was only referring to this kind of anti in particular.
I dislike Kurosanji like a lot of people but there are some other thst enjoy them so going to their streams to "troll" is a low move and ruining the mood there
Sounds less like a hater and more like an obsessed stalker. As much as I dislike Enna, I hope she has good security.
I was an aloupeep before then when i heard her "even if i kill you'll support me" atfer that i completely stopped and started becoming a hater.
why? Not trying to defend her, but out of all the statements, why the heck is that the one?
@@w1nther930because alledgely she and others in her circle drove selen to make an attempt. not a good thing to say in the circumstance. or at all really.
@@Bloodstar6078 Key word: Alledgely. There is no confirmation and is all speculation at this point. Of course, that was bad timing as she said that the day before it was revealed, but i would have thought there would be other way more controversial things she could have said
Bro such a focus on virginity is just gross. This person needs to get help. And that’s no one’s business but her own.
She right the strategy is to ignore them but it becomes some people actual whole personality like this person
I waited release of Moonlight blade on the west for almost 10 years
Hang on a minute, could that person sending super chat harassing Enna (Mysta’s former giga fan turned mega hater) be bananamuffin/Horayo?
I cannot say he is one of us. Like my god he is more Braindead than I thought.
The myholo notice was weird
I said it again,and again.
Leave the livers alone. Don't harrass them on their face.
We're going for the company.
It's the Internet, everyone gets trolls and haters eventually. There nothing you can really do about it, once you get rid of one another one would just pop up
Yup. You could call it a "price of becoming famous". Just look at how many similar cases there were with actors, singers and so on...
I swear to god she has no idea how to use mod tools.
The fact they send her superchats to insult her kinda proves her point.
I think this only makes the storm worst.
Enna paying NO attention to those supers must have taken a MASSIVE amount of mental discipline + stability.
Enna is someone who needs to take her own words to heart and shut. No reason showing your own mental illness talking trash.
To be fair though, that chatter probably needs to just drop Vtuber stuff for a bit..
Even tho we hate nijisanji, but this anti turn into harassment, which is fuck up -_- that specko guy and party time guy maybe is the one who is a virgin -_-
I don't like Enna but doing this is so weird, bullying them doesn't help at all
Even though its kinda ironic how someone who's indirectly the cause of someone trying to "off" themselves talking about mental health, the antis are wild asf
Never thought I'd see the loss of virginity being used as a gotcha. Before we know it, getting married and having a job will be something to mock someone for. Gotta love the Vtuber community.
Is moonlight blade available on ios?
Antis are like the extremist terrorist of the Doki side of the Doki-Niji War.
Its really immature...in addition to not being a good troll anyway...i hope the parents took away their allowance
Putting aside the troll's psychopathic behavior for a minute, and also putting aside the fact that they're willing to spend money to send hate messages, I don't even get the angle of attack.
Who the fuck cares if Enna is a virgin or not, seriously, like how is that actually insulting? At least in the west I cannot think of another era in the last 100 years where a grown woman's virginity has mattered less either in the positive or negative sense, and it certainly matters a lot less than it used to in the east as well.
This is some mega high-key incel energy.
Yee tell that to parasocial individuals.
What happened that people believed she lost her virginity in that month? It has to be based on something, even if it is small and ridiculous, right? …. Right?
Harassing someone for their virginity is very telling about what the harasser is insecure about
I've been absent from Kurosanji drama for a long while now do I'm kinda just catching up on things, and I'll have to admit, although the wording could’ve been better, I had a slight hunch that Enna was addressing a specific person. Like, I don't follow any Kurosanjo vtubers (nor a lot of vtubers tbf) but even I could tell there was some underlying issue going on. And I'm glad I didn't assume too much, especially since it felt out of context when I saw the clip, cuz holy shit that dude's hella crazy..........
Frankly, that PERSON needs to be stripped of their human rights as whole.. Very vile type of thing.... like wtf ? Absolutely gross behavior..
To quote Jessica Candle from The Division “I really want to sit down and have a talk with one of these people. One to figure out what makes them tick, and to strangle them while they tell me”
Only someone mentally ill would make a joke about "attempts"
It's not a joke. Enna should attempt
@@andoryus agreed
@@andoryusBruh, you good bro? I get disliking someone but that's way too far. We're still talking about a human being after all.
@@TENthe10th you think that animal is human?
@@andoryus stop joking about suicide. It's not funny.
Dude... I know Niji suck ass... But when we are about to hate Niji, we make just the numbers roll down
I understand that nijisanji disappointed you as a viewer and as a liver in connection with the recent events, but to attack the liver that already had a bad life before, but also add negativity in their address.
I am even more convinced that Nijisanji is Chernobyl in the vtuber world, when the Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident occurred, the residents of Pripyat were evacuated and the radiation background settled on concrete high-rises, on trees, on structures, on living creatures.
In Nijisanji there was also an accident with selenium and the norms fans unsubscribed from all the nijis and followed him, and hate settled on the liver of nijisanji and nijisisters. And it will continue for months after the branch closes.
It is sad that a once revolutionary company has turned into a chernobyl due to negligence of the management, greed and inaction of the management..
I dislike enna a lot because i dont vibe with her personality and what she does but those trolls are absolutely disgusting and uncomfortable. It is nobodies business who ppl sleep with, if at all.
Now this completely changes the whole thing. Never attacked her or talked bad about her, but I was arguing with people who defended her words in the comments of the last video. I don't regret anything I said, cause obviously I still believe what I said to be correct in the context it was said in, and I never criticized Enna or talked bad about her beyond what she said in the clip, but this does bring a completely new light to the situation, and takes away any fault in anything she said. I just hope she can somehow do something about this weirdo. This goes well beyond just being an annoying anti, it is genuine harrassment
I hate kurosanji as much as the next guy, but shiz like this is unacceptable. If you want to see the hellhole burn down, stop watching them and let them die out as the viewership and income drops. Harrassing people is NEVER ok. You can criticize them and talk bad about them, and you can spread your hate towards them to make more awareness of their BS, but DO NOT do this kind of shiz. Remember, we're not just bringing down the company, we're setting an example that we won't accept such treatments within companies so that others won't do it in the future. There's no point in the resistance if we look like the bad guys by the end
Of course not that this anti is an actual kurosanji critic, they're obviously just a very...... lets say "troubled" individual. But I still felt it needed to be said
Your comments section is slowly turning into 4chan it seems
I was not expecting what the anti was obsessed with jfc
As much as she may have been part of the bullying,if you stoop to her level then you’re no better.
For an Anti, to be hung up on someone virginity is just giving me "It should've been me, not him, it's not fair! orz" vibe... it's pretty pathetic.
I’m trying so hard to be mad at the weirdo harassing her, but I can’t stop giggling at their obsession with her virginity. Bro is acting like she promised it to him and lied. Lmao
I actually found the harasser's twitter account and their posts replying to enna is just about the exact same thing they say in the superchat donations. And the best part is everyone is ignoring them. So it is more likely that this harasser is a troll.