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I wonder who will use the niji classics this time
"We talked to her"
"We tried to stop her"
"She was putting us in danger"
"She was given so many chances"
This time around it's gona be a black screen video with Vox,Luca and Uki to truly drive home the "there's no favoritism" :D
@@dennishiestermann3055Doubt. None of those three have the spine to host that stream on one of their channels. Vox hid behind collabs instead of his own channel after the black stream happened.
@@MoleculeXmoleculeAnd from what I heard, he started streaming again on Bilibili probably bc he knows he'd get cooked here
Someone there probably can't even wish her well
@@dennishiestermann3055Unfortunately this time it might actually work. Kotoka is already hated as it is.
If she gets fired before Luca I’m gonna laugh my ass off. Ain’t a chance in hell that Niji could beat the favoritism allegations at that point.
Luca should have been out the door once they found out he ignored his contract so that other people could do his work, giving access to confidental information to outside people? nope, sorry that kind of stuff deserved to have the hammer brought down on them.
feel bad for women in nijisanji
Luxiem's success as a whole is responsible for getting at LEAST one person, maybe more, promoted to a pretty good position in AnyColor after they were at risk of getting shit-canned, so the chances of anybody in Luxiem getting booted for genuinely bad behavior are slim to none.
Lmao guess hes on the favourite list of niji en too
there is no war in Ba Sing Se
The thing with Kotoka and Mel is that there are too many coincidences that led people to believe that she said something to her in confidentiality and Kotoka decided to spill the tea. Just way too many coincidences for people not to raise eyebrows.
And Kotoka attacking zaion put a microscope on her specifically which made it more favorable
The thing you all have to remember Yagoo wanting to give her a second chance and didn't want to terminate her But NDA is nothing to scoff at. Mel didn't want Hololive in legal trouble so she CHOSE to be terminated. Not the other way around. Kotoka isn't the cause of her termination. Yagoo knows he isn't stupid. We shouldn't be blinded by rage all because we lost someone. I am upset losing Mel but this rage at someone potentially innocent doesn't help our case.
@@ShioriNovelite1 I think Mel shouldn’t be blaming herself. I think Mel should put the blame on poor management inside NIJISANJI EN management.
Someone please elaborate to me. How does mel and kotoka know each other?
I still think she has something to do with that, but the way people are going about it is greatly uncalled for
Yeah Kotoka was probably fired, its the average niji pattern. Before the month ends we'll probably see that termination letter on niji twitter page for sure🤷🏽♀️
We shouldnt trust any official statement from nijisanji other than she has been terminated. Niji has shown to not only have contempt for the people who work for them but also be unprofessional.
Why are they only firing the female what did kotoka do
Probably for Scarle and Rosemi as well since they don't fall 100% in line with Kurosanji's cult like behavior.
@@_YourMorningLatte_ Kyo isn't female. Kotaka got Mel terminated.
@@yahnservices1978 I know Kyo isn't female and he wasn't fired
Deja Vu, sudden hospital visit, the apostrophe (possibly redundant), streams privated.
She might be on her way out it seems.
best bet, our questions will be answered in the next few days, maybe week.
Probably right after Q4 ends
@@megarotom1590 that's too long, I doubt it
she might be terminated so we just had to wait and see. it can also be KARMA for Kotoka since Zaion got terminated too.
I like how they didn’t even bother covering their tracks for skinwalking their liver’s twitter accounts by using different apostrophe 😂
Aren't Kotaka and Meloco actually in Japan, so they would have a JP keyboard?
I don’t think they did, but if they did, what Legal Mindset said could actually be true. Nijisanji could have a case of gender discrimination. The male members (Vox, Uki, Luca) can do whatever they want, but as soon as a female talent makes a single mistake (Zaion, Selen) they get eviscerated instantly.
Not really. Remember what happened to Kyo with the Korea mention.
@@DinnerForkTongue You got me there. I mean, Kyo could just be an exception, but if he isn’t then it really is just favoritism.
It's the fuckin Clique. Anyone outside the Cliche is gone dude.
@edit: Grammar, srry.
@@memorableman3709I mean, he didn’t get terminated for that, but Zaion did for her jokes.
The only male who got terminated as I remember was yugoo
Check Mint's sub count. She's over 100K. She will finally get to keep a Play button.
Oh, shit.
This does not bode well for Nijisanji.
And I believe she said she was in the hospital from a deleted tweet.
It doesn't at all. Like look Kotoka might be or might not be involved in F up crap but I draw a line when it comes to losing a job over fans opinions. Like wow imagine Hololive talents in Nijisanji instead. Calli would get fired because fans says so.
@@kinglightning5256 I think I don't trust that tweet.
@@kinglightning5256 sadly since we know for sure now that NijiEn management having and taking control every NijiEn social media that deleted tweet cant be trusted
I mean if they follow their previous pattern of terminating people on sick leave, then no. Niji at this point is like a company run by a 17yo thinking they know how adulting works. They'll fire anyone who doesn't 100% agree or who may be gone for a while, thinking that it's how wall street would have done it. Without realizing what it is that brings in money and what it is they're loosing.
I feel like Niji can never escape drama
Drama is in their blood. Either way firing Kotoka not a good move. Many may not like Kotoka but she is a entertaining woman. Yes I am aware many in the community thinking she is a snake but unless Roca herself says otherwise besides that activity of Roca blocking Kotoka..I am giving Kotoka a benefit of a doubt. People may think I am defending a snake or whatever but I draw a line when Nijisanji fires talents for no good reason even if is someone people hate. Luca deserves to be fired. Uki deserves to be fired. Vox deserves to be fired. Wilson deserves a suspension at least.
Idk why, but digger deeper is Nijisanji's specialty.
The reality is they always will end up in drama because they don't want to change. For a while I have wondered why niji keeps on doing this and ruining themselves and at this point I don't care. The Vtuber community has given them multiple chances to improve and they just throw it away.
They feel ignored if they arent being talked about
I don’t really care if you “defend” snakes like Kotoka, just watch whoever you find entertaining and ignore the controversy if that’s what you feel like doing.
Niji be firing everyone except luca at this point 🤣🤣
Elira's clique in Niji EN 😬
More like the NijiBoys & the NijiClique won't get fired (i.e. Luxiem).
The biggest betrayal for Zaion was Kotoka saying, she had nothing good to say about Zaion. After Zaion felt they were really close. And spent much of her time helping.
Mel said she was betrayed by someone she thought could be trusted. Blames herself for breaking NDA and accepts the termination gracefully.
Mel didn't go to some drama tuber. What third party would she leak info to? That it would quickly come back to Cover? And to which company it would be a major offense to leak to?
There is speculation but no solid or tangible proof to blame Kotoka on this
Unless there is a witness, discord messages or chat recipits, or anything else i wont accuse her for the deal f Mel
Thanks for explaining why we can see Mel as being at fault and yet still be pissed at, well, kotoka.
With Zaion it was worse, they were IRL friends, (gender neutral) dude. They knew each other behind the screen and bonded, then Kotoka just betrayed her.
Kotoka is a slimey snake, and I’m glad she finally got terminated. Betraying Zaion and Mel, who both considered her a close friend, is unacceptable.
Mel has been in the industry for years and knows probably hundreds of vtubers/utubers, and she could also have other acquaintances. People acting like it can only be Kotoka because Mel doesn't know any other people.
It already seems likely with what happened to selen
If Mel confirms the allegations against Kotoka, then Cover would absolutely be pissed.
Yup. Kurosanji not even smart enough to change up their playbook after the Dokibird debacle. They're using the exact same series of steps on Kotoka.
@@SaltyPuglordExcept this time it will work super well..because Kotoka unlike Selen or Mel she isn't well liked.
@@NerissaRavencroftJailbirdyeah Kotoka's reputation is already pretty bad with the whole Zaion gaslighting thing. Now with the allegation of her being the reason Mel got terminated, she won't have much backup unlike Selen, also Kotoka is more like a JP member at this point with barely any connection with EN content creators (Selen/Doki have contact with Apex Pro Player and english speaking non-Niji content creator, so she has a lot more backup) so again unlike Selen the english vtuber community won't side with her as much.
in this time, Kotoka wouldn't receive much love unless The allegation is proven.
*"sigh"*
Days without Kusosanji scandal (0)
Allegations popping up, Hopital Visit, Privating VODs and no futher activities in the future Another shadow banning of a liver? Is Kotoka even in control of accounts? This is Kurosanji were talking about. Though hoping for livers to abandon Kurosanji as this is Kurosanji theu are a company all about the money so they support the livers who can rake in that money as they questionable and awful behaving livers under Kurosanji.
of course she in control, everything is fine, nothing bad ever happens in Nijisanji, why don't you donate some money to her, she is fine so of course the money will go to her and not Niji, not like she has clauses in her contract where they can take all the income for a period :)
Jokes aside, remembering the contract legal mindset and others talked about Niji can take all their income if they think the liver was violated their terms, even during a stealth ban :)
This might be a stretched but what if she (hypothetically if the allegations were true) was the one to thank Raziel Warmonic for coming out with her experience with Luca ?
Since Raziel did say one of the livers of the company messaged her and thanked her for spreading the word about his behavior
I honestly could see it.
Perhaps it was Scarle instead
Man first we had allegations against one of their members and now a ton of videos get privated on one of the channels which is strange
If you think that's bad, check the allegations Vox has (likely tied to his PL). I haven't because I already despise his candy ash enough and don't want to turn it up to eleven.
I hear it's Luca tier or worse.
@@shis1988do you mean the pedo incident? If it is, then it isn’t his fault
Niji announcing graduation is bad for their brand...bro that's their entire branding
I unfortunately think they don’t care unless it’s someone from Luxiem or Noctyx
Imagine if Kotoka releases a black screen video slandering Mel regarding her termination
(as a result Mel would fire back against Kotoka with this message which is a parody of Selen regarding her statement with Elira)
I was ready to continue working with the friends I trusted, I had made my last statement and I hadn’t looked at anything regarding my past for 3 months straight. I haven’t looked at anything regarding legal documents or anything regarding my situation since I moved back to Rica. I wanted to be hopeful for the future and never interact with that snitcher again. So to see her all come back and reopen a wound that I was ready to heal from and to have to talk to my lawyer again on how to respond.
The document mentioned was at first made to document my thoughts and history with evidence so that my lawyer could see the general picture of what was going on before and after my termination and if there were issues that should be addressed. It was first made during my darkest time mentally and I wrote everything on my mind little by little at that time. I made the document thinking that it was never going to be public to anyone but to my lawyer. Although it was a document filled with my confidential information as well as privacy information that should not be public, there were no other addresses or specific locations mentioned. Regarding a recording, this was not intended to be anything other than a distribution test for planning a collaborative event between two people, which happened to be left over from one test recording, and I never recorded any other conversations with anyone. The recording was never shown anywhere even in a legal setting and there are no other records. However, I regret that it was mentioned and I am sorry to all parties affected for the misunderstanding in this.
I requested that I just wanted to regain the trust I had lost. Sometimes I didn’t hear anything for days from the lawyers on the other side and felt like I’d be alone and isolated for a long time. It made it so hard for me mentally. On Feb 5th, my lawyer discussed and said it would be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after I requested part. It was never intended to be used for anything else, I’ve asked my lawyer to convey that and have communication that the document as it was written wasn’t going to be released anywhere, and my lawyer did so when sending the document. Less than two days after my lawyer sent the document, the termination notice came out. I was very shocked but thought that was the last time I would hear or think about the document and that this, personally and in my own opinion, was the end of the lawyers and legal involvement.
All of the communication was done between lawyers not in Japanese but also English as well. Things are not black and white and everything gets more complicated and muddled when lawyers are involved in a different country. When things are conveyed to multiple parties through different degrees of communication, everything turns into different narratives and different translations. I thought it was over and I've accepted what happened and am ready to continue working with the friends I cared dearly. Everything I posted to the public about the situation was a response. If it was a month ago, it would have been different as I was angry but I was also very alone in my head. But it's not a month ago and I've accepted it. I wanted it to be neutral and private but now the whole world is involved and the public is watching every step that happens.
I am not perfect and I have faults. I had to watch my mom Ayamy cry and break down in tears in a stream for the first time during the day I was terminated. Despite everything that has happened, please show kindness to all parties involved, there are real people behind the monitors. One of the reasons why I wanted this to be private is that the people on the other side I recently collaborated with can be cruel and deceiving and I knew this would happen the moment my end of contract dropped. What I didn't reveal to anyone and only my coworkers and management was that I wasn’t fired for being backstabbed, but I was also robbed and plagiarized because that friend who snitched on me also copied the document I made for my lawyer which is illegal, and my income that I made for the past 5 years was completely stolen from me, which happened 2 days after the termination. My friend who was in heartbroken tears after my contract had ended found me in time after searching for me for hours before anything happened. I was in a dark place and I do not wish this to anyone. No one should go through what I went through. I reveal this now not for pity but to state that no life, no matter what should be risked for ego or winning anything. There are no winners in this. Please don't make it like high school. Treat everyone like adults and with some empathy and kindness.
For those who wish to see receipts or documents or anything else, hoping I will reveal them, I'm sorry but these are the things that should be private and if needed, between lawyers. Revealing private documents and talking about the details within will only just make things worse and more complicated as outside parties get involved and will just hurt everyone. No one deserves to be pushed over the edge. So many people have been hurt and involved even if they were innocent bystanders. In the end, I will always be here to respond and that is the only thing I will do in public. I hope this will be the last statement I have to make.
It's gonna be F'd up on Kotoka side, can't imagine such a dumb act
This is Niji we’re talking about.
@@otakueve117 could've learned from Elira's scripted stream😭
That would somehow have been more on brand for her than it was for Elira, by all accounts.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
- Albert Einstein
Don't see it below a Nijisanji member to do such stupid, fucked up things
A week before AR live btw
They make sure to get the good press going for it /s
Lets see how much more can they get away with before the AR live
honestly before joining nijisanji she alr has a huge following on her twitter and youtube. used to play games with other vtubers and collab with other irl jp content creator. plus, super pretty irl.
What even is that anyways?
Normally, I would say that assuming that Kotoka snitched simply because she was the last out of company person to interact with her on stream is ridiculous, but Mel specifically stated that her trust was broken in her statement. Kotoka and Mel were very close. They collabed numerous times, so the fact she conveniently unfollowed her on both of her accounts right as she says that is too much of a coincidence. I thought Selen's termination was the final nail in the coffin for the Nijisanji, but my goodness, if Nijisanji is responsible for robbing not just another corpo, but one of the entire industry of one of its pillars, they're definitely doomed. Good riddance. As if the trauma of nearly losing a friend and pillar of the entire community didn't already cause enough industry-wide damage and burn enough of their bridges.
If the allegations against Kotoka for getting Mel terminated are true, she will easily become the most irredeemable member of Niji in my eyes.
If Kotoka ever does do a black stream video similar to Elira, then that means that Mel has absolutely had enough, and that may confirm Kotoka ended Mel’s contract, and that her reaction to Mel’s termination is absolutely negligible.
Tbh, it seems Kotoka might have trusted Niji over Zaion and this is the result. People being dumb over hearsay.
Niji is very focused on company loyalty, that's just the culture they set over in that company
@@BeyondDaXand that costed them. A lot. I can’t wish her good luck, not after her act of treason
@GoldRichness Bro, stfu 😂 You acting like she fucking betrayed YOUR ass. Sayu, Kotoka, nor Mel dont even know you. Stop inserting yourself into the fucking situation.
karma? though she did mention how she was unahppy at Niji
their sense of loyalty is rather twisted @@BeyondDaX
Please let Sayu have more viewers than Kotoka when she tries to go indie. We'll see who's wishing the best for who then.
It would be a MASSIVE karma.
I'd still watch both regardless
Kotoka has a very small chance of surviving alone as indie. I actually hope she doesn't attempt, because it'll be hell for a long time. Doki had all the fanbase overlap across Niji behind her and even some former Niji creators that care about her (and I'm sure Mint cares too), Sayu was all alone for about a year and it took a toll beyond what we can imagine, thing is that her vindication arrived and care for her to the point she doesn't want to be followed over it and instead be followed for herself. She also has people in Phase now that care for her enogh to collab.
Who would Kotoka have when she is known to betray people? And Elira will be in that position too. They targeted someone else at least once under (presumably) no obligation to do so and were influential on that person attempting on their life. If they have a grain of empathy they'll feel eaten by the guilt for as long as they live.
As someone said above, she could squeal and claim Niji forced her to do it. It won't stop the hostility, but would be coming clean of sorts, especially if she personally apologizes to Sayu (and Rica if she did do it). From there she'd have a while of hate and very few indies or small creators wanting to associate with her (if at all), but it'd be a good start to rebuild herself and gain trust from a community.
@@shis1988 Never trust a traitor lest they betray you too, whether she was "forced" or not the fact that she did it (if she did it) at all will be devastating for any future prospects regardless if she apologizes or not, the best course of action would be to either ignore it and not bring more attention to it (scummy behavior sure, but better than an a apology that confirms the allegations as true) or to somehow prove she had nothing to do with it, though this might be risky and has potential to burn a few bridges it will ultimately regain her a lot of her lost trust and in time people will be more likely to support her
I would really want more information regarding the suspected incident between Kotoka and Mel, I known more will start to emerge as time goes by, in Vtuber world, nothing can stay silence forever.
I wouldn't say completely nothing. There are some things behind the scenes we do not know. Only the stuff people are willing to hack their way into finding out.
I didn't watched Kotoka's content, but I think there's still a chance she was just "in the wrong place at the wrong time"
Who knows at the end.
Most of the expert comments here said she indeed was the one.
@@Pepe-dq2ib
What's an "expert comment"? 😅
Most of it is speculation no one have proof other then Mel pl unfollowing kotoka
I can see either a graduation at best, a contract termination at worst, or a one-year hiatus much like Moira.
What a bad start in the new fiscal year for Nijisanji.
It’s not a golden goose, so it’ll be negligible, right?😂
I will say they usually don't private vods ahead of a graduation. They usually do that a month after the graduation.
people speculated that nijisanji was posting on her twitter account to "break her silence". however there was a japanese apostrophe, which really made people believe that anycolor was posting on her account. the japanese apostrophe is also present in the tweet that kotoka posted. however since kotoka is fluent in japanese herself im not going to jump to conclusions here and nor am i saying thar anycolor DID post on their accounts. this is just a theory iv come up with
Edit: i have just noticed thar kotoka has used this apostrophe a handful amount of times, but with the apostrophe change with selen i dont think that it is an unlikely change that management didnt do this. this is a very messy theory if its wrong dont take it seriously-
Punctuation Schizos winnin once again.
I mean, Kotoka herself is Japanese, and she lives in Japan, the same with Meloco.
Remind me again, which one are the apostrophes as opposed to the posts by the VTuber themselves?
Kotoka is Japanese
Isn't she a Japanese who join EN branch? It shouldn't be that unusual if she use the Japanese apostrophe.
Oh well if it is just a one time issue with Zaion but when issue with MEL and hololive popped up I doubt these rumors are not true. More than just one instance is a pattern of behavior usually we don’t see
Well, why isn't Mel standing up for Kotaka if she is innocent ?
Paterns are not on that Niji talent's side.
@@yahnservices1978we also haven’t seen her accuse her either though
@@yahnservices1978 She is far from a close friend. All friends in hololive
@@megarotom1590 Mel is too kind to attack people, even those that hurt her.
She should definitely name the snake tho.
@@senkodesign Doesn't matter, Mel is a good person, she will most definitely stand up for a fellow VTuber she partnered with.
Honestly, I'm on the same opinion as that guy who simply said he doesn't give a damn about Kotoka. And honestly, after backstabbing Zaion I wouldn't see it below her to do the same to poor Mel. She's the kind of person who would step over others if she can benefit from it somehow. But again, and because of that, I couldn't care less about what happens to her
You're a really sad person you know that
Another day, another Kurosanji video. 🙃
This type of sentences doesn't only mean something actually went wrong for the vtuber, but it's pretty clear in my opinion that the company wants them out, I feel seriously bad for Kotoka in both cases...
Well I guess we gotta see how that termination notice is going to drop and what's it go say because we've seen this kinda of story twice with nijisanji en.
After Zaion, I don't.
@@FuwaMocoNumber1DoggyPack I never mentioned anything about the Mel case. I'm not Johnny Tsunami or whatever his name is. All I said is I don't care for Kotoka after how dirty she did Zaion.
@@DinnerForkTongue honestly i really hope it was niji that caused that. Though i hope she can at least apologize no matter how little that could mean now. Its quite obvious niji wouldn't let her if she wanted to.
@@FuwaMocoNumber1DoggyPack Don't lump the rest of us with yourself. If you sided with Niji back then that's on you and nobody else, so why don't you stop with this whole "we" thing.
How about that? Pomu getting a Play Button she can ACTUALLY touch.
"oh boy, it's been a good day! sure hope there wont be any niji bs today!!"
Niji was indeed, doing more bs today
0 days since last Niji drama
She is definitely leaving, now we need to wait to see if it is graduation or termination. I don't particularly care for her since her comments after Zaion termination but i do not wish her any harm, those people harassing her over acusations with zero proof are idiots
Yeah, these idiots will not stop until they can prove their point (even if there's no proof to begin with). Sometimes, I really wonder who tf actually these people are. Definitely not Mel's fans since she already told them to just let it go, but they didn't listen.
@@SatoshiKenjibecause they don’t condone mob mentality. Mob mentality is a red flag in itself. Loyalty can blind someone to such depths.
You’re just naive. The timing was too good. It’s not normal to UNFOLLOWED and BLOCKED your friend who you just COLLAB FACE TO FACE before the termination. Use your brain maybe you’re the idiot one
Or maybe you’re just blind and cant think even for a minute. She blocked kotosnake after saying her trust had been broken. How clear can it be 🧠
@@MirV7Again did she name her? Did she? The events seems too convenient. How clear can be? As blind as the NDF.
“Hey Siri? Play ‘Drama’ by Aespa”
Yeah the mass nukes will happen soon but the most important is that you reminded me of Mint stream today. TY.
I did not even know Mint was Pomu. I remember Mint streaming years ago but never realized she was actually Pomu.
The only reason I can think of Kotoka's disappearance is that she is terrified because she has angered the world's largest Vtuber community Hololive
If it happens, you know she f up. And hololive community blame her for Mel termination
Perhaps an ex-moderator of Kotoka could expose her disgusting actions and expose her horrible actions behind the scenes, how and why she betrayed Mel. If Mel and her lawyers would give permission to thoroughly review the allegation document.
Hey Khyo!
I just wanted to say thank you so much for doing what you're doing on this channel!
I've never actively watched Vtubers (only subbed to Suisei, a visual novel focused vtuber and Ina just to support them) but ive been mildly curious about how the vtuber community was like: yours really gave me the insight I wanted into this place!
Though I do sub to FalseD as well to see his professional reports, I genuinely looked forward to yours because of how digestable and comfy your video are.
Ngl good song choice in ur background music, kinda spurred me on to make this comment and make me feel nostalgic in a way!
PS: I've only actively started keeping an eye on this corner of the internet because of the Selen drama - I thought Niji & Hololive were healthily competetive with each other :/
There are no competition, Holos focusing on their own thing, and Niji keep comparing themselves with Holo as the leaked discord chat showed
@@foursoup7922 leaked discord chat? :0
Mel unfollowed her while talking about her trust being broken. How clear can it be
Clear as mud for both the NijiSisters and Defense Force, for sure.
That's probably the biggest proof people need to see. It's almost the same as that Gen 3 live about Rushia, without feelings. That was great proof that what Rushia did was very bad for her partners
@@fabricioramos3091true, Trust is hard to build again after betrayal
If you told me a year ago Niji's undoing would be striking a cover MV would be their undoing, I'd have called you farfetched. But holy hell. First Doki breaking the spell and then LM, Sayu, and others basically absolving Niji's contract as flappable had obliterated Niji's hold on the EN talents seemingly. If, as Luka's case has shown, they weren't easily manipulatable in the first place.
Sayu planted the first real seeds of doubt, so let's give her credit too.
@@balargus319 Sayu, Mano Aloe, and others certainly loosened the jar - they all deserve credit for getting the lid off this can of silly string as much as Doki (or even Kuro and Matara for that matter.) It really shouldn't be remarkable then how little it took to pop it, but it at least wasn't the timeline I expected.
After Kotoka threw Zaion/Sayu under the bus. I’ll just say I never considered myself an “anti” of anyone until that happened.
I keep hearing this thing about Kotoka throwing Zaion under the bus but I never got the full context?
@@sejama6625 She went on a whole rant on stream about how Zaion was in the right and thus deserving of being terminated. Literally going out of her way to take the opportunity to slander her when she couldn't even stand up for herself.
@@gabetalks9275i thought everyone in xsoleil talk bad about zaion. They all posted a 20 minute video talking about the situation around the same time
@@loppipoppi Group beating is kinda Niji thing since forever. People had problems with Kotoka because she seem too enthusiastic about Zaion termination. One of the main argument to protect the livers is the "Company force them to do so" but with such enthusiastic, Kotoka lost her privilege of said argument. And when Selen termination drag Zaion termination back on stage because how similar it was, Zaion was proved to be innocent, people start to look back on the most "dedicated" livers performance on her termination, Kotoka fit the bill.
>threw Zaion under the bus
>threw Mel under the bus
>bullies Selen
>somehow she needs therapy
no accountability
Tbf bullies do need therapy. A LOT.
Probably because a therapist is the only person that will help justify this behaviours, gotta keep the client coming and get their bags 😂
I was wondering if kotoka was the only friend Mel had irl and if she also bullied selen. Thanks for the evidence that it was all true.
The Zaion thing I agree with but everything else..
No evidence.
@@Tizjizno evidence? You’re delusional and blind if you think she’s not involved. After zaion case and the timing with mel unfollow her acc specifically. Yeah you’re delusional
I certainly hope that Nijisanji stopped the auto-renewals on Kotoka's membership just so her fan's aren't paying for nothing?
Don't count of it, not until her channel is closed
This is kurosanji. Expect maximum intentional incompetence.
If Kotoka really did get the vampire fired, it wouldn't be the first time Niji and the sisters got a holotalent lose their job.
What was the previous instance?
What was the previous instance?
@@balargus319 mano aloe.
@@liesandy291NO WAY... For real?
Yagoo needs to cut any nexus with them. I'm saying this for long time.
@@fabricioramos3091 yep harassed by the sisters. Did an attempt too jumping from 5th floor luckily a tree cushioned her fall (her dad is abusive too) ffs.
It was definitely Kotoka, and Mel heavily implied it so.
Blocking Contacts, trust issues emerged, yep.
Luca could break every clause in the contract and walk away free, yet Niji drop the guillotine for the girls for far more less
I think there's a red flag hidden in one of the membership videos..... I don't know for certain what kind of red flag, but it could be something that indicated Kotoka was in contact with Mel or she knew something about Hololive that she was not meant to know. As there are back-ups of all the vids, they can't just private or shorten only one vid, so all the videos get privated to cover the tracks.
You do wonder if Nijisanji are willing to go THIS far to censor the truth, will Nijisanji look for an excuse to terminate Kotoka soon just to bury the idea of corporate espionage/sabotage so it doesn't fall back on them, rightly or wrongly.
Not impossible for a company that skinwalks on it's talents accounts when they are in the hospital, responds to private legal statements with public attacks on their character wrapped around termination letters, and has timed legal acceptance activation switches built into contract changes.
Kotoka is following the Zaion and Selen route.
Regardless of what she may or may not done, I hope she is okay, we don't need another attempt after Selen incident.
After what happened to Mel, then no she doesn't deserve such hope.
@@angkhoanguyen6114So you wish someone to off themselves over what is rn a rumor about her
@@angkhoanguyen6114 horrible mindset
@@angkhoanguyen6114man really wants someone to off themselves over an unproven rumor
@@angkhoanguyen6114 imagine being so fucking low that you cant even respect your oshi's wishes by not being a massive asshole. Go believe that rumor and see what it does to your life lmao
Well, I think it's very likely that Kotoka is the reason that Mel was fired, there's too many things that coincide to give it credibility. Why say there's no evidence, when the unfollowing and the recent off collab are evidence? It's at least enough to raise a big red flag. Either way, I'm over the fact that Mel was terminated, I think that Hololive didn't have to do it, and shouldn't have done it, but I'm glad to see that Rica is doing well despite that. As for Kotoka, I don't think anyone deserves to be harassed, even if they're a horrible person. If it is true that she was the one responsible, I do hope she feels guilty for that, but I ultimately want her to get the help she needs to sort out her issues, and learn from this experience.
I’m still highly suspicious of her, considering how she behaved with Zion, but this is not going to make things better or get anything done.
I don’t think she deserves this, but any color definitely does
Welp unless her fireing was planned ahead of time the 3d concert will probably be delayed again so they can delete her footage if she was participating.
3d concert didn’t include her to begin with probably. It was only gens 1-5
Kotoka patern of "dissapearing" seems awfully familiar to that other "dissapearing" at the begginin of the year...
.........coffee anyone?
i don't think we will see anything drastic on corporate end until the AR Live.
It really feels like they are axing the entire branch close afterwards, and they are just stemming the loss.
Cant wait for the 3 page letter from Niji disparaging another one of their talents.
Everytime there is a health problem. It's the companies health that is implied.
*Member post about Medical/Being in Hospital*
*2months later*
*Graduate/Terminated*
The sad thing of all this, is that we can't trust anymore in any statement provided of any talent, in niji at least
What about the nijisanji talents that had nothing to do with the drama?
@@BeyondDaX once you are working for a corpo, you have to follow their rules, that means that there are so many things we don't know about the contracts, but one thing we know, the talents don't own their models nor their social medias
@@BeyondDaX Still no since the people who went on "breaks" after Selen's termination had non-western apostrophes
This is very out of character even for the terminations, I'm curious if maybe they're checking vods for things she's said or something, we know management has full access to everything
Honestly I never liked kotoka but doesn't mean I should ignore she is human like the rest of us and humans make mistakes
And mistakes should have consequences. We shouldn't be handing out free passes for everything. There are genuine mistakes made in the moment, and there are actions we don't realise are mistakes until hindsight because taking another course of action had more obvious benefits.
Another female talent looming to be terminated. Meanwhile, Luca are getting away from lots of violations. 🙄
Luca much like a lot of the niji boys have an army of rabid, ultra loyal and verbal female fanbase
I’m wondering how is Uki and Luca not terminated??
After streaming Suisei and Kobo's latest songs, I stumbled here. Damn, what a whiplash.
No, you can stay in niji Kotoka san. You deserve niji.
honestly the best fate i can hope for her if the allegations are true.
@@z-v-x8324 She can stay in hell.
If Kotoka has been fired, but Luca isn't, it sounds like they may have a gender discrimination case on their hands.
Some niji mod have hate bonner for hololive kotaka might have told someone from staff or a mod got that information and decided to do something to make troubles for holo since this happened when niji is under fire
Hey Khyo, I'm curious why haven't you talked about COVER USA yet? Or have you already and you just haven't released the video yet?
"Apologies for the silence"
Ahhh shxt, here we go again...
Nijisanji days without drama: 0
I still have no idea where people got the accusation of Kotoka sabotaging Mel's career from. I just kinda assumed that Mel vented to a cousin or something who blabbed too much about it and wouldn't shut up.
Probably because Mel/Rica unfollowed Kotoka's accounts. Both Niji and PL.
Besides, I think that if it was some random talking too much, the Internet would've found out by now something (tweets, messages), which leads me to believe it was someone from within the industry, and someone from cover found out someone outside knew too much about things they shouldn't, which was traced back to mel
How does the saying goes again? once is an accident, twice a coincidence but three times is a pattern?
Will she get to do it a third time, tho?
If you see her channel scrubbed of videos beyond member's streams, she's fired
i'm pretty nijisanji still removes vods and videos for some graduated members. it seems to be determined by how popular you are, but i'm not completely sure.
From what i hear, Cover wanted Mel to stay but Mel left to protect the company. Something tells me Cover was so pissed they told Anycolor that they told them to take care of Kotoka or they will go after them or block their collaborations. Even A Chan when commenting on Mel said we lost a long time friend. I dont want to talk about it mucg. All i have to say is Kotaka already has a history of being fishy from her dating rumors to the Zaion firing. She always was fishy. She was the last collab with Mel too.
I swear if Kotoka releases a black stream video that destroys Mel’s reputation in Hololive before and after her termination, she is absolutely going to face the wrath of Cover for defamation and termination of contract, because she might break the contract involving subcontracting.
If the Luca document is to be believed then there are at least two livers there unhappy with his behaviour and (presumably) unhappy with Nijisanji not taking action against him, now I am not saying there's correlation between liver's using their Previous\Personal Life Twitters but I am not not saying it either.
Who?
PLs re-emerging?
Not a good sign for AnyKuro
Not to be a Niji defender -ew no- but just because Kotoka was the last person Mel collabed with, doesn't mean it's her. Are Kotoka and Mel close enough that Mel would share such intimate things that would violate her contract? Did they speak in person or on SNS? Personal or official accounts? Because if it was the latter, then it might not have been Kotoka, but a Niji staff, as we all know that Niji staff have access to all of their talent's official accounts. And if it is on official accounts, then Niji staff might have seen it and contacted Cover because of it. There are too many unknowns for me to confidently point fingers. Too many careers have already been run over because of rumors.
Close enough that that last collab was an off collab. Can't imagine having someone you don't really know coming into your own home.
They knew each other in real life actually. Mel implied on it a lot
Im just waiting for the day NIJISANJI/ANYCOLOR officially releases a statement terminating ALL their vtuber activities. They cant even handle their livers properly.
can we go 1 month without a nijisanji controversy, drama, termination or graduation? unless its Luca...his termination is welcome and long overdue. But can they manage? starting to think they hoard bad PR nightmare as badge of honor now..
adding more, didnt want to make a novel, never liked Luca, always felt to me like he was entirely fake(even considering the vtuber persona). He always seemed to think himself better than the others or the leader of his generation but in reality, he always gave me an air of being petty, easily bruised by words and a god damned drama and diva queen packaged into one.. I didnt expected to be that close with my first impression of him but i'm not surprised in the slightest..
Don't forget Uki. That man is creepy and an issue to himself and a lot of people, really.
@@Influence417never watched nijisanji much, only when I was enthralled by Vox's voice.. it did things to my bi-sexual side XD thats how I got introduced to Lucas and he set off my weirdo senses..the bad one..
@@thargs9184
I don't blame Vox for that one. Guy's a natural and a pro, but that only made him more of a puppet to NIJI.
For Luca, yeah he needs to be booted ASAP.
It's like Selen and U-San all over again. At this point, I would not be surprised if Niji had possession of Kotoka's account and released her statement 0:03
what is the"number x" thing next to the view count and release date on the videos ?
I still don't get how Niji recruitment going.
Either it's Nepohires or the one in charge just look at twitch streamers and said "yep good enough, you're hired"
Twitch streamers are bunch of snakes, I'd rather be in a room with serial killers than twitch streamers.
The way I see it, they might be looking for the most vulnerables, those they can control and "brainwash", to feed them the idea that the company is responsible for all of their success.
You can see how broken Nina, Pomu, Selen and Zaion were when leaving the company. Doubting themselves and thinking they might be unworthy of streaming on their own as indies.
It's the main reason I don't want to hate on any of their current streamers, even Kotoka, regardless if she's truly involved in Mel's termination or not, regardless of how guilty or how much of a snake she might be, we will never know how broken the person is behind the scenes.
Well , a company always have that one person that push everyone into abyss
Does anyone know if there’s possibly something in her members stream she doesn’t want the public to know about? Like how the Pomu once in a lifetime thing went mainstream after she unprivated all of her member vods?
I don’t really care if it’s paid content, at this point I feel like the information, should there be any, would be vital to understanding the work culture of Nijisanji. That’s if it’s negative at least. People could be right in that she’s being investigated and being legally held responsible for the alleged Mel incident but that’s just speculation. Would partially explain her mental health break though.
It’s likely an early warning sign of a graduation but hey, just a theory.
I believe she's on extended break, and will shut down her membership for a period.
I didn't know about Petra. I'm concerned.
I honestly won't be surprised that ninji announces her graduation somewhere around this month
If there's going to be any graduations / terminations it would be announced in May at the very earliest. They need to squeeze every cent out of April for the Q4 financial report.
@@EndellionQT u ain't wrong they gotta get whatever cash they can before the talent leaves🤷♂️
I would like to order tea. *Sips* 🍵
Is this a voice line or the VA sang it in one of his streams???
I saw some jp post on twitter about Luca, Meloco and Kotoka but I didn’t know what it really meant because translation was pretty bad.
Can someone tell me the PL Aia account please? I wanna follow her early before she graduates out of Kurosanji. I already have Scarle's PL account to follow. Thanks.
Oh and by the way good job reporting these news Khyo, keep it up brother!
LaDeathMachine on YT, should be an empty channel except for a community post
I don't think any fans are going to rally around Kotoka lol
Well well well, you underestimate nijisanji hooligans
@@videoloversful Funny enough, I bet the Niji sister gonna trying to throw Kotoka under the bus to shift the attention off Luca drama.
@@Duong-zv3pf well, sisters and dragoons alike would be have a brief, beautiful moment of unity as they curbstomp a snake.
if 4 chan was the source of kotoka being the reason for mels termination its highly possible as the 4chan community is almost accurate all the time. The thing with luka, ever since he was javaa ive heared words goinng around about the real him not being a good person. Well I cant really blame the guy, as his environment at home is probably so bad that he became the guy he is. But I think he did not take the opportunity to change if his still the same as the old him.
isnt kotoka on vacation to usa or something? didnt she say that on stream some time ago that it was planned?
At this rate, Niji's AR concert graphic is gonna be nothing but those starry filler panels they used for the other graduated livers
What is “doom posting” and why is Petra supposedly doing it?
It's basically a thread of posts about someone being cynical or hopeless for something. But I don't know why Petra's doing it too, but a look at NIJI might give you a hint at that.
Is it just me or does the audio sound different? Like the microphone without pop filter.
man so this is what people watching reality tv feels like xD the drama and suspense :P
Sorry not sorry for Kotoka, She deserves what is happening to her after what she did to Mel, So many people in Hololive are still feelings the effects of her leaving like that, My sadness hasn't fully gone away either.
If Kotoka ever wanted any chance of redemption she should come clean and say she's sorry, But considering what she did to Zaion... That probably ain't happening.
Didn't he just say not a make any speculations?
@michaelhall736 You're right bro we can't assume
Wait, I thought that just a rumour?
So, what the f is actually happen behind Mel's termination?
I thought you were going to mention Zaion, not Mel 😅
As the video showed, there's still not proof she snitched on Mel, and as Rica/Mel asked, no speculation.
I think is OK to have your opinion about what she talked about Zaion,but taking for granted she was the one who accused Mel is a long stretch. Maybe she was, maybe not. You can have your opinion but is not OK to take it as a truth until there's solid proof.
@@gianncmedina7805 Yeah. I don't even want to assume the allegations against Luca are 100% true or 100% false considering what happened with the Vic Mignogna fiasco.
I'm in the camp believing she backstabbed Mel due to that whole fiasco Mel unfollowing her before she got terminated. So... I don't give a fck about her. Deserved.
So after the AR live we'll know 🤔
_schrodinger's AR live_
I might go so far as to say that it was a statement written by a new PR guy who took experience and learned from all the previous bad statements they made before. We already know that when they want to punish someone they take away all social media accounts and sometimes post a statement pretending to be the person. Scarle went silent then the first thing we get was a statement from someone else, meaning that they did not take away her social rights but did forbid her from talking. Kotoka might end up on an indefinite hiatus or gone completely from the scene. Likely she talked about something on her member stream but couldnt remember which one, so best thing management could do is to private them all to prevent someone from making clips.