@@mehr0x Yes, but it should be Roborock's detergent to ensure there are no issues. See here - us.roborock.com/products/roborock-floor-cleaning-solution-for-all-robot-mops
Roborocks have been the best navigating vacuums I've used. Camera-only navigation just doesn't do it. Tesla ought to have figured that out by now. I also have an Ecovac Omni S8 with the fancy dock and it gets stuck more often. The other day, it just kept ramming into a wall. No matter how many times I moved it and started it cleaning again, it went right back to the wall and continued ramming. And it loves to re-arrange lightweight furniture. It might be good for robot vacuum demolition derby, but it's not so good at avoiding obstacles and not getting stuck.
100% agree Camera only navigation just is looking quite dated. Cameras + LIDAR feels like the obvious future for robot vacuums. But you also making a good point about the Omni...same basic hardware, but clearly the software layer just isn't as good there. I too wasn't blown away by the navigation on my Omni X1.
@@mlee6050 S8 Pro Ultra, no question. Omni X1 is up there...probably top 5 overall, maybe top 3, but it's clearly not at the level of the S8, in my view.
Definitely. This video is based on our initial round testing. Last week we started what is going to be a 100 day test where we look more closely at long term performance for obstacle avoidance, navigation, cleaning, maintience, etc. We'll have that launching as soon as we can complete the testing.
I haven't tested the W10, but I have tested the L10S, Narwal, Narwal Freo, and others with the spinning moppers. The spinning action in most cases is slightly better, though it's not a massive difference. In any case, the usability and maintience of these different bots have ended up being far more significant factors than a slight performance difference between the mopping types, based on my experiences.
I have a S7 Maxx V ultra. Ive never had mine get caught on a cord. But it has grabbed waistband string from sweatpants touching the floor in my closet. Ive just learned to hang any pants with strings on the higer rack and havent had any problems since. Theres also an option in the settings for "Less Touch" which will use the lidar vs the bumpers to detect an object, Which is my guess to why it touched the cup
They should be about the same (same essential hardware, same software), but at least comparing my experience with the S8 thus far (a month or so) vs. my experience with the S7 MaxV over the last year I'd say the S7 MaxV is the better performer.
@@nathangebben5738 thx Nathan for your response! Waiting for a good offer for the S7 Maxx V ultra. S8 didn't convince me to pay some extra $ for almost no benefits.
@@ModernCastle thx alot. I was expecting the s8 doing way better but with your feedback I'm definitely going with the S7 Maxx V. With 2 little kids, toys on the floor are def. our enemy no. 1 ;-)
I have two large breed dogs that shed a lot. My current robot vacuum leaves clumps and gets clogged in the vacuum a lot. I believe your video shows that this would not be a problem with the robot vacuum part of the s8 ultra. But what about the dock itself? Do you have to clean/maintain the rock dock? It would be helpful if you did a video showing how to clean the dock only. I did not see any how to videos of this nature. Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if we can create a standalone video where we show more specifically how to clean / maintain the dock. There is indeed quite a lot to it.
@@ModernCastle when doing a video on maintaining/cleaning the dock it’s self can you please say very clearly one of these scenarios: “ if you have multiple pets, and have had issues with dog clumps/clogs with your old robot vacuum the maintenance/unclogging on the dock may be problematic for you” or “see the manual unclogging of pet hair was extremely simple and required very few if any special tools”. I hope those two scenarios make sense, and of course it does not have to be spoken verbatim.
Looking for more comparisons against the s7 maxv ultra. I saw cleaning performance was identical in your test. Additionally how loud is the dryer? Also wondering if the mop module can be removed still? In the s7 it wouldn’t raise enough and would still hit the carpet.
Dryer isn't loud at all. It's sitting in my living room and I haven't noticed it a single time thus far. You cannot remove the mop module. It's like the S7 in that it's built in. Perhaps we'll do a S7 vs. S8 video soon.
Thanks for the great review. Can the mop pad itself be removed so you can throw it in the washer? If it's not removeable, what do you do when it wears out? Do you purchase a new mop head and replace it yourself?
I'm afraid about the pet hair, as I have a large breed dog that sheds alot. If the pet hair gets tangled in the axles, I don't think it can be sucked out by the charging station, so then I have to check after every cleaning cycle if the axles are hair-free. If I will do that, I fail to see how this new sophisticated home station automates the process of cleaning and refilling, as I still have to check it regularly. The size of the pet hair is about 8-10 cm. What do you think?
Huge volumes / large pet hair is going to be difficult for basically any robot on the market. You are right to be skeptical about that. As it is likely going to be an issue.
We didn't test vs. any strong stains and I haven't had a chance to see how it is for long term use yet (just started long term tests lasts week). But if it's anything like the S7 MaxV mop, which I would say there is a 95% chance there is, it'll be reasonably good at stronger stains, though not a miracler worker. It's far better as a maintenance / every day cleaning type mop than something that's going to scrub your floors back to mint condition.
Noise level test in your review is an important item, unfortunately many reviewers did not include. High pitch noise of robovac can spread to other room and even apartments but it would be good to measure on hard floor too because carpet will mute the sound since sound include vent and roller brush etc.
Wow...i love your review on this S8 Pro Ultra....and i am considering this S8 too. My only concern is the mop function where the S8 uses a damp fixed vibrating microfibre cloth attached at the bottom that gets dragged all over the floor where the dirt is still on the damp cloth like a swiffer. My Q is: how good is the mopping function of the S8 if compared to the mopping function on Narwal T10's circulating microfiber mop pads or the Smartmi Vortexwave's rotating scrubbing brush or even iLife's W450 Shinebot's rotating brush? Which gives the best mopping function? Any idea?
Overall, I am exceedingly pleased with the mopping performance on the S8. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. At the end of the day, every mop is dragging around dirt on their pads until the pads are cleaned. Which in the case of the S8, it's cleaning it's mopping pad every 15'ish minutes (at least in the case of my home + settings). I haven't tested the Vortexwave or W450, so I cannot say how they compare. But I do have a Narwal T10 and I unplugged it and stopped using it when the S8 Pro arrived. I haven't missed it at all...don't get me wrong, the T10 is fantastic, arguably a better mop, but it's so weak in so many other areas that what little mopping performance I give up in I gain tremendously more in terms of usability, navigation, and overall experience.
Interesting… I have a roomba i bought new 2 years ago. I’m moving and I want a new robot. I saw dyson releasing theirs soon, but it didn’f seem to perform well. I thought roborock was a random brand, but it seems well and it’s $1,600 I believe. I’m between this or the roomba combo j7+. The roborock seems to be superior :))))
Indeed - Roborock is a relatively young brand, just launching in 2014. But today the S8 Pro Ultra is arguably the best robot vacuum on the market. Dyson's new robot launches later this year...but does so without obstacle detection, without a self empty dust bin, without mopping functionality, and (from what I can tell) without LIDAR. I expect the vacuum itself will be powerful, but a robot vacuum is more than just a strong vacuum. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Dyson.
We recently tested Clearly Filtered. Performance was quite concerning. In the first lab test the Clearly Filtered showed that it ADDED cobalt to the water. We assumed it must be an error. So we got a brand new Clearly Filtered pitcher and filter, re-tested, and sent back to the lab for analysis, only to have the exact same result...Cobalt was added to the water.
How would you compare the vacuuming performance compared to the L10s, particularly hair? Your test indicates higher numbers for the L10s, which I find hard to believe with the double brush on the S8.
We need to re-test the L10s at some point, as it was done with our old hair tests. You can read the full long hair and pet hair test analysis here - moderncastle.com/dreamebot-l10s-ultra-review/#long
They seem to clean well now, but obstacle avoidance seems to still lack for cables, shoe laces, floor to ceiling windows and mirrors, navigating around barstools, and not getting stuck in all sorts of random places. I wish more TH-cam reviews would really hammer on these, as this is where the robots are still frustrating.
I'll be sure we cover all of these issues in our 100 day test video (coming up in a few months). I've got all of these obstacles in my home, so we should have some good info on them.
thanks a lot! thats a let down for me. My internet provider says splitting wifi bands into 2.4 and 5 ghz reduces coverage. So was hoping they will support 5Ghz in this new version. Other brands already support it.
@@pawankulkarni9910 Hrm...that's interesting. That's not my understanding of how dual band coverage works, however, depending the type of wifi / access point that your ISP provides (assuming they provide it), that may be true. A higher end access point would solve that issue. In my experience, it is extremely rarely for smart home devices to support the 5 ghz band. There are only a handful of devices I've seen support it.
Do you think a mixture of vinegar and water on a ratio of 1:4, to be used in the clean water tank is a good idea or do you think it can damage it's components?
I expect Roborock wouldn't recommend it and I would guess that over time it could damage the seals. I had another robot with a similar design that I used a vinegar mixture in and it did not go well. Overtime, it began to leak.
If S8 water tank is not removable, do you have to let it run through cycle on dock before picking it up and taking to different level of the house? That would be a hassle for sure!
I'm not really sure how a dish washer's drain works...so I cannot say. Basically after it cleans it returns to the station, washes the pad, and sucks that dirty water out of the base station bottom and into the dirty water tank. Then it rewets the pads with clean water so the machine can continue cleaning.
I noticed that it has only 1 year warranty, does that mean that something will go wrong after lets say 2 years? Does anyone have experience with those robots over long time?
Correct, vacuuming and mopping performance is very similar. Navigation also very similar. The S8 Pro Ultra adds the drying feature to the mop pad. That's the biggest upgrade over the S7 MaxV.
Roborock S7 MaxV Though their is a very strong likelihood and the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra will be my new favorite by the time we finish our long term tests.
Seems to me like the cup and coord avoidance were successful. The only point of avoidance is to not get tangled, not completely miss it (with the exception of 💩)
Indeed - maybe instead of "no" I should have scored them with a "partial". In any case, we've seen others, including the earlier S7 MaxV fully avoid those issues. So seeing even a slight bump was a difference.
These things need to be coming down in price with each generation, but instead it seems like they just keep increasing them and never having step-down models that slowly introduce the last year's features. Nobody can afford this shit.
The latest and greatest is always going to be crazy expensive, especially a model like this, that's adding new features. But with each new generation the older generations are getting less expensive, while still being amazingly high performers (especially compared to just a few years back). I think of it sort of like the new generation of cell phones. They add more features every year, but the model from 2-4 years back is still amazingly good and not quite as expensive.
Disappointing to see a lot of requested features were left out of this model. For example the app to: show water level estimate in app, ability to drag and drop to reorder routines, ability to copy routines & schedules, ability to save zones like we do with rooms, ability to delete rooms, increase mop lift clearance, etc.
For not being a "real" mop it still pulls a ton of dirt into that dirty water tank. I haven't tested the Shinebot, so I cannot say how it compares. But I can say for sure this is an amazingly good mop. When I'm not testing new robots the S7 MaxV Ultra was the robot vac / mop I am using in my personal home and office.
@@ModernCastle I'd like to see you do a review of the Shinebot, it's a mopping only unit. They work in the same was the old iRobot Scooba did. Put down clean solution then scrub then vacuum up.
The mop pad is improved from the previous S7 generation. The pad has 2 vibration points and also makes a downward force which improves it's moping functionality. Also it has a default setting in the app, that let's the robot vacuum first the entire house, and then begin moping the entire house (you can also set how much moping you want, for example it can pass several times on the same location). While moping only, the 2 vacuum brushes are raised to not leave marks on the floor. This is from what I read about the product, so it sounds like a very good mop actually. And I think @Modern Castle forgot to mention is that the new S8 model Pro Ultra has auto drying feature which will dry the mop, preventing bacteria growth.
I mean...it's a review, not a comparison. We're going to do a complete side by side comparison to the S7 MaxV Ultra and other models in the coming months. No need to get rude about it.
Buy Roborock S8 Pro Ultra - geni.us/tyjQ2 (Amazon)
Questions? Ask away! I do my best to answer all questions within 24 hours.
Please test the BERKEY water filter……..is it as good as they claim their third party testers say it is?
@@Noname-cn4ly It's on our list...hoping to get one later this year for testing.
Thank you for your content! Can we put detergent in the water for the mop function?
@@mehr0x Yes, but it should be Roborock's detergent to ensure there are no issues.
See here - us.roborock.com/products/roborock-floor-cleaning-solution-for-all-robot-mops
Roborocks have been the best navigating vacuums I've used. Camera-only navigation just doesn't do it. Tesla ought to have figured that out by now. I also have an Ecovac Omni S8 with the fancy dock and it gets stuck more often. The other day, it just kept ramming into a wall. No matter how many times I moved it and started it cleaning again, it went right back to the wall and continued ramming. And it loves to re-arrange lightweight furniture. It might be good for robot vacuum demolition derby, but it's not so good at avoiding obstacles and not getting stuck.
100% agree
Camera only navigation just is looking quite dated.
Cameras + LIDAR feels like the obvious future for robot vacuums. But you also making a good point about the Omni...same basic hardware, but clearly the software layer just isn't as good there. I too wasn't blown away by the navigation on my Omni X1.
Lidar doesn't make sense on a self driving car, cameras + HD radar can replicate it
@@ModernCastle out of S8 Pro Ultra and Omni X1, what one did you view as best? I was looking at i7 or j7 but now thinking between those
@@mlee6050 S8 Pro Ultra, no question.
Omni X1 is up there...probably top 5 overall, maybe top 3, but it's clearly not at the level of the S8, in my view.
@@ModernCastle okay thanks
thoughts on the non removable mop and water tank ? big deal or no ?
Feels like not a big deal.
In the entire time I've used the S7 MaxV Ultra I have never once had the thought to remove the water tank.
Does the s8 pro ultra maintain that noise level when drying the mop? How long does the auto drying function run for?
No, it's very quiet when it's just drying.
Unfortunately, we did not measure the auto drying timing.
Could you please test obstacle avoidance function and compare with those in S7 max V? Thanks a lot.
Definitely.
This video is based on our initial round testing.
Last week we started what is going to be a 100 day test where we look more closely at long term performance for obstacle avoidance, navigation, cleaning, maintience, etc. We'll have that launching as soon as we can complete the testing.
How does this mopping action compare to the spinning brushes moppers like the dreame W10?
I haven't tested the W10, but I have tested the L10S, Narwal, Narwal Freo, and others with the spinning moppers.
The spinning action in most cases is slightly better, though it's not a massive difference. In any case, the usability and maintience of these different bots have ended up being far more significant factors than a slight performance difference between the mopping types, based on my experiences.
Thx for the review. Which obstacle avoidance is better? S7 max v or s8?
I have a S7 Maxx V ultra. Ive never had mine get caught on a cord. But it has grabbed waistband string from sweatpants touching the floor in my closet. Ive just learned to hang any pants with strings on the higer rack and havent had any problems since. Theres also an option in the settings for "Less Touch" which will use the lidar vs the bumpers to detect an object, Which is my guess to why it touched the cup
They should be about the same (same essential hardware, same software), but at least comparing my experience with the S8 thus far (a month or so) vs. my experience with the S7 MaxV over the last year I'd say the S7 MaxV is the better performer.
@@nathangebben5738 thx Nathan for your response! Waiting for a good offer for the S7 Maxx V ultra. S8 didn't convince me to pay some extra $ for almost no benefits.
@@ModernCastle thx alot. I was expecting the s8 doing way better but with your feedback I'm definitely going with the S7 Maxx V. With 2 little kids, toys on the floor are def. our enemy no. 1 ;-)
@@whenmoonsir My pleasure
I have two large breed dogs that shed a lot. My current robot vacuum leaves clumps and gets clogged in the vacuum a lot. I believe your video shows that this would not be a problem with the robot vacuum part of the s8 ultra. But what about the dock itself? Do you have to clean/maintain the rock dock? It would be helpful if you did a video showing how to clean the dock only. I did not see any how to videos of this nature. Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see if we can create a standalone video where we show more specifically how to clean / maintain the dock. There is indeed quite a lot to it.
@@ModernCastle when doing a video on maintaining/cleaning the dock it’s self can you please say very clearly one of these scenarios: “ if you have multiple pets, and have had issues with dog clumps/clogs with your old robot vacuum the maintenance/unclogging on the dock may be problematic for you” or “see the manual unclogging of pet hair was extremely simple and required very few if any special tools”.
I hope those two scenarios make sense, and of course it does not have to be spoken verbatim.
@@cartermw Thanks! I'll make a point to cover those topics.
Looking for more comparisons against the s7 maxv ultra. I saw cleaning performance was identical in your test.
Additionally how loud is the dryer?
Also wondering if the mop module can be removed still? In the s7 it wouldn’t raise enough and would still hit the carpet.
Dryer isn't loud at all. It's sitting in my living room and I haven't noticed it a single time thus far.
You cannot remove the mop module. It's like the S7 in that it's built in.
Perhaps we'll do a S7 vs. S8 video soon.
@@ModernCastle i would love to see a comparison
@@geoffzephyrus9849 We'll definitely have that later this year once we can complete our long term tests of the S8.
It would be nice if they have a trade-in program... 😅 Still with the s7 pro. Pretty hardy.
Thanks for the great review. Can the mop pad itself be removed so you can throw it in the washer? If it's not removeable, what do you do when it wears out? Do you purchase a new mop head and replace it yourself?
Yes, it can be removed and machine washed.
@@ModernCastle Thanks very much!
@@Dagot1948 You're welcome!
The S7 max is on sale at moment and includes the drying module, would you recommend holding off and waiting for the s8?
I'd probably wait for the S8, as it should be launching within the next couple of months.
I'm afraid about the pet hair, as I have a large breed dog that sheds alot. If the pet hair gets tangled in the axles, I don't think it can be sucked out by the charging station, so then I have to check after every cleaning cycle if the axles are hair-free. If I will do that, I fail to see how this new sophisticated home station automates the process of cleaning and refilling, as I still have to check it regularly. The size of the pet hair is about 8-10 cm. What do you think?
Huge volumes / large pet hair is going to be difficult for basically any robot on the market. You are right to be skeptical about that. As it is likely going to be an issue.
Hi, how is mopping for strong strain
We didn't test vs. any strong stains and I haven't had a chance to see how it is for long term use yet (just started long term tests lasts week).
But if it's anything like the S7 MaxV mop, which I would say there is a 95% chance there is, it'll be reasonably good at stronger stains, though not a miracler worker. It's far better as a maintenance / every day cleaning type mop than something that's going to scrub your floors back to mint condition.
Noise level test in your review is an important item, unfortunately many reviewers did not include. High pitch noise of robovac can spread to other room and even apartments but it would be good to measure on hard floor too because carpet will mute the sound since sound include vent and roller brush etc.
Indeed - we always make a point of including a real world noise test and a dB reading
Wow...i love your review on this S8 Pro Ultra....and i am considering this S8 too. My only concern is the mop function where the S8 uses a damp fixed vibrating microfibre cloth attached at the bottom that gets dragged all over the floor where the dirt is still on the damp cloth like a swiffer.
My Q is: how good is the mopping function of the S8 if compared to the mopping function on Narwal T10's circulating microfiber mop pads or the Smartmi Vortexwave's rotating scrubbing brush or even iLife's W450 Shinebot's rotating brush? Which gives the best mopping function? Any idea?
Overall, I am exceedingly pleased with the mopping performance on the S8. I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.
At the end of the day, every mop is dragging around dirt on their pads until the pads are cleaned. Which in the case of the S8, it's cleaning it's mopping pad every 15'ish minutes (at least in the case of my home + settings).
I haven't tested the Vortexwave or W450, so I cannot say how they compare. But I do have a Narwal T10 and I unplugged it and stopped using it when the S8 Pro arrived. I haven't missed it at all...don't get me wrong, the T10 is fantastic, arguably a better mop, but it's so weak in so many other areas that what little mopping performance I give up in I gain tremendously more in terms of usability, navigation, and overall experience.
Interesting… I have a roomba i bought new 2 years ago. I’m moving and I want a new robot. I saw dyson releasing theirs soon, but it didn’f seem to perform well. I thought roborock was a random brand, but it seems well and it’s $1,600 I believe. I’m between this or the roomba combo j7+. The roborock seems to be superior :))))
Indeed - Roborock is a relatively young brand, just launching in 2014. But today the S8 Pro Ultra is arguably the best robot vacuum on the market.
Dyson's new robot launches later this year...but does so without obstacle detection, without a self empty dust bin, without mopping functionality, and (from what I can tell) without LIDAR. I expect the vacuum itself will be powerful, but a robot vacuum is more than just a strong vacuum. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Dyson.
Can you please review the Clearly water pitcher. Is it better than the waterdrop chubby?
We recently tested Clearly Filtered. Performance was quite concerning.
In the first lab test the Clearly Filtered showed that it ADDED cobalt to the water. We assumed it must be an error. So we got a brand new Clearly Filtered pitcher and filter, re-tested, and sent back to the lab for analysis, only to have the exact same result...Cobalt was added to the water.
Hi, the purchase link doesn’t work. Do you know when it’s planned to be available for purchase?
I believe it's launching in May 2023
when can i buy it ?
It'll be available here - geni.us/tyjQ2 (Amazon) - by the middle of May 2023
As for pet hair issues, what is the best Robotvacuum you guys have used for this?
Robrock S8 is way up there, as is Roborock S7, Roomba S9+, Roomba i7+, and Roomba j7+
How would you compare the vacuuming performance compared to the L10s, particularly hair? Your test indicates higher numbers for the L10s, which I find hard to believe with the double brush on the S8.
We need to re-test the L10s at some point, as it was done with our old hair tests.
You can read the full long hair and pet hair test analysis here - moderncastle.com/dreamebot-l10s-ultra-review/#long
They seem to clean well now, but obstacle avoidance seems to still lack for cables, shoe laces, floor to ceiling windows and mirrors, navigating around barstools, and not getting stuck in all sorts of random places. I wish more TH-cam reviews would really hammer on these, as this is where the robots are still frustrating.
I'll be sure we cover all of these issues in our 100 day test video (coming up in a few months). I've got all of these obstacles in my home, so we should have some good info on them.
I agree.. I have the S7 max V and I would concur. You still have to babysit these things, especially when it comes to avoiding cords
Hi, does the S8 connect to 5ghz wifi band? or only 2.4 ghz like its predecessors?
Only 2.4
thanks a lot! thats a let down for me. My internet provider says splitting wifi bands into 2.4 and 5 ghz reduces coverage. So was hoping they will support 5Ghz in this new version. Other brands already support it.
@@pawankulkarni9910 Hrm...that's interesting. That's not my understanding of how dual band coverage works, however, depending the type of wifi / access point that your ISP provides (assuming they provide it), that may be true. A higher end access point would solve that issue.
In my experience, it is extremely rarely for smart home devices to support the 5 ghz band. There are only a handful of devices I've seen support it.
@@ModernCastle thanks! I was not aware of this. Not sure if I can explain that to my network provider though 🙂
@@pawankulkarni9910 Will your ISP allow you to get your own router / wifi access point? That would probably be easiest.
Do you think a mixture of vinegar and water on a ratio of 1:4, to be used in the clean water tank is a good idea or do you think it can damage it's components?
I expect Roborock wouldn't recommend it and I would guess that over time it could damage the seals.
I had another robot with a similar design that I used a vinegar mixture in and it did not go well. Overtime, it began to leak.
@@ModernCastle I see. Well I guess I will just use distled water until they come up with some special solution. Ty!
@@radul476 My pleasure
vinegar is an accid and will damage seals over time
If S8 water tank is not removable, do you have to let it run through cycle on dock before picking it up and taking to different level of the house? That would be a hassle for sure!
No, you don't. Why would you? I move the S8 all the time without issues and restart it elsewhere.
Is it auto drainage system Like Dish washer
I'm not really sure how a dish washer's drain works...so I cannot say.
Basically after it cleans it returns to the station, washes the pad, and sucks that dirty water out of the base station bottom and into the dirty water tank. Then it rewets the pads with clean water so the machine can continue cleaning.
No. This won't hook up to the drain. Maybe if you're a madman and modify it in some way 😂
I noticed that it has only 1 year warranty, does that mean that something will go wrong after lets say 2 years? Does anyone have experience with those robots over long time?
1 year warranty is pretty standard across the entire industry
Is it true s7 maxV ultra overall score is the same as the new s8 pro ultra? ..Making it a very minimal upgrade?
Correct, vacuuming and mopping performance is very similar. Navigation also very similar.
The S8 Pro Ultra adds the drying feature to the mop pad. That's the biggest upgrade over the S7 MaxV.
@Modern Castle -- Great review! Thank you for the reply. Good point, the drying module is an extra add-on for the s7 maxV.
@@mikeyfl My pleasure!
@@ModernCastle i have bought drying module for s7 maxv u and it works absolutely perfect, so seems there is no reason to upgrade :)
@@vikino83 Yep, that makes perfect sense. No real reason to upgrade if you already have S7 MaxV.
What would you say is your personal favourite robot vacuum so far that vacuums and mops? Thanks :)
Roborock S7 MaxV
Though their is a very strong likelihood and the Roborock S8 Pro Ultra will be my new favorite by the time we finish our long term tests.
@@ModernCastle Nice! Thanks for the reply. When will testing be completed? Also do both of these models sense objects like shoes/loose wires etc.?
@@ModernCastle Sorry just one last thing! Do you have a favourite within lower budget options?
@@GazalV 2.5'ish months
We're just a few weeks into a 100 day test
@@GazalV Roborock's S5 / S6 remain good robots.
If you don't need the mopping then iRobot's e5 / i7 / i3 are all excellent choices.
Seems to me like the cup and coord avoidance were successful. The only point of avoidance is to not get tangled, not completely miss it (with the exception of 💩)
Indeed - maybe instead of "no" I should have scored them with a "partial".
In any case, we've seen others, including the earlier S7 MaxV fully avoid those issues. So seeing even a slight bump was a difference.
Edit: Roborock s8 Pro Ultra does not have a RGB camera, only structured light
Sorry about that mistake! Thanks for calling it out, Marc.
These things need to be coming down in price with each generation, but instead it seems like they just keep increasing them and never having step-down models that slowly introduce the last year's features. Nobody can afford this shit.
The latest and greatest is always going to be crazy expensive, especially a model like this, that's adding new features.
But with each new generation the older generations are getting less expensive, while still being amazingly high performers (especially compared to just a few years back).
I think of it sort of like the new generation of cell phones. They add more features every year, but the model from 2-4 years back is still amazingly good and not quite as expensive.
Agreed. These types are at least 5 years out of being somewhat affordable.
I wait until they make a version that dos not require a vacuum bag in the dock , unless they already did this , and you just don’t tell us about it?
They don't have any version that doesn't require a bag.
I believe Shark is the only self empty dust bin I've seen that doesn't utilize a bag.
@@ModernCastle thank you for letting me know 😘
@@nissen4700 You're welcome
Disappointing to see a lot of requested features were left out of this model. For example the app to: show water level estimate in app, ability to drag and drop to reorder routines, ability to copy routines & schedules, ability to save zones like we do with rooms, ability to delete rooms, increase mop lift clearance, etc.
Those indeed would all be excellent additions. I haven't seen those types of features on any robot.
It's really not a mop. At the moment only the ILIFE Shinebot series is a real mop. They are more like wiping than mopping.
For not being a "real" mop it still pulls a ton of dirt into that dirty water tank. I haven't tested the Shinebot, so I cannot say how it compares.
But I can say for sure this is an amazingly good mop. When I'm not testing new robots the S7 MaxV Ultra was the robot vac / mop I am using in my personal home and office.
@@ModernCastle I'd like to see you do a review of the Shinebot, it's a mopping only unit. They work in the same was the old iRobot Scooba did. Put down clean solution then scrub then vacuum up.
The mop pad is improved from the previous S7 generation. The pad has 2 vibration points and also makes a downward force which improves it's moping functionality. Also it has a default setting in the app, that let's the robot vacuum first the entire house, and then begin moping the entire house (you can also set how much moping you want, for example it can pass several times on the same location). While moping only, the 2 vacuum brushes are raised to not leave marks on the floor. This is from what I read about the product, so it sounds like a very good mop actually. And I think @Modern Castle forgot to mention is that the new S8 model Pro Ultra has auto drying feature which will dry the mop, preventing bacteria growth.
@@Boodieman72 I'll see if I can get one for testing
All that work and not even a comparison to last years model. Such a waste. Cannot wait until @vacuumwars does it properly
I mean...it's a review, not a comparison. We're going to do a complete side by side comparison to the S7 MaxV Ultra and other models in the coming months.
No need to get rude about it.
@@ModernCastleagreed, that was rude.