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Overwatch 2 is like beating a dead horse. Except the horse is made of metal, is impossibly angry, and very. very much alive and equipped with weapons of mass destruction.
U forgot the horse has a spear
U forgot you can ride the horse
U forgot the horse can snipe you
U forgot the horse can do a spin
U forgot the horse is immortal
Orisa : 4 legged robot horse that cant move fast
Mauga : Big boy that can run/charge faster than a horse
Tbf If Orisa had any mobility aside from the speed increase with the javelin spin (which imo shouldn’t even be there in the first place) every game against her would be a fucking nightmare
Beeg chaingun boy with run is still menacing but counter-able
I mean Mauga def. got better fuel.
Orisa can literally turn to gold do you know how heavy gold is
Orisa's basis, the OR-14, had the extra legs to disperse its two-ton weight better and to stop the near-unstoppable rocket charges from Germany's crusader knights, not to increase its speed.
Well to be fair she's clearly a cow, specifically an African Buffalo. Or rather, a robocowtaur. Everyone just calls her a horse.
“i don’t see a way to fix it”
*6v6 staring ominously*
"I don't see a way to fix it."
Samito has joined the chat.
When you're talking about turning your brain off and hitting buttons, Zarya has that exact same problem. The amount of times I've won games by just timing my bubbles and getting 100% charge and then turning off my brain to delete the enemy team is insane
I recently played a game as Zarya, we win because I used my ult and trapped two supports in it, one of them was a life weaver and he pulled his hog away from cart to save them, but we were on overtime so we won lol
I don't think zarya is broken. it's just that zarya can easily exploit bad team communications
@romanbrown2027 Not really bad communication but more so bad opportunities. It's hard to counter her majority of the time unless you cab predict EXACTLY when she's gonna bubble and avoid hitting her. And its worse in lower ranks where people have no idea what she does OR how to counter her
edit: I have also recently learnt that hitscan heroes also are effective against zarya
I can hear the 6v6 creeping over his mind like the shadow of killer in a cartoon
I hate how hard some characters can counter, it’s so annoying when you’re popping off on a hero so a couple just swap and negate you. Like ok sorry for having some fun.
This is every game on Doom tbh
I get two kills on Winston and they go DVa, Bastion, Reaper, Ana, Brig...
I've never agreed more. And then the enemy team tells you all your practice is nothing but luck, like they didn't go Moira, Sombra, Junkrst, and Orisa.
@@chiefinasmith
I feel like it's just catering to noobs. Ever since OW2 went F2P the only way they'll maintain a casual playerbase who will invest themselves enough to buy their microtransactions and battle passes is by making sure low skill players can just swap to a character whose abilities shut down a more experienced player who is good with their hero. It's awful, but that's what they have to do because if you kept getting curb stomped by more experienced players with no form of brain-dead retaliation then those new players probably wouldn't even touch the game.
I remember i was sweating touching point on and off and i noticed neither of my dps even TOUCHED at all. They were just watching me touch like…why r u standing so far away😭 me and tank r stressing and yall r chilling
From now on imma yell at my dps to touch point to get the message across
As a DPS player, I've ALWAYS been the one to touch point, and it's always been a frustrating experience, because 9/10 times, 4 people on the enemy team then rush point, while my team struggles in a 4v1 against a support player.
The blink decoy make me think of forgotten abilities to add. Decoy, prox mines, laser mine, smoke screen (see through for allies), Bee like homing projectile, poison cloud martyrdom, Jump pad (able to orient), Mirror wall to reflect projectiles, invis wall (think harry potter blanket)(projectiles not stopped), ricochet saw blades/glaive, pole-arm or sword based melee character, a swap places ability, or like a recall ammo reload (imagine cassidy but upon reload, his bullets travel returning to him causing damage. Junkerqueen knife bullets minus bleed)(usefull for poor aim, or setting traps)
The decoy is just the tank player, proxy mines exist on ball, venom mine is kinda similar to a laser mine, cass nade is a homing projectile, a poison martyrdom would probably be too similar to junks one, the rest are cool tho.
i like these
Bro quaked always finds the most obscure tech it's insane
6v6 isn't going to solve every problem, but you're kidding yourself if you think it wouldn't solve A LOT. Also bear in mind Flats is tight with Blizzard, which is a good thing because he has some idea of what the playerbase needs and can communicate that with them as well as bring his insight and commentary to future updates for the players, but as a consequence of maintaining that relationship he can't be too vociferous about bringing back 6v6 since Blizzard is running its head into the wall over 5v5 and refuses to even talk about 6v6 returning, so I wouldn't take too much of what he says against 6v6 to heart because he knows it's a touchy subject for Blizzard that they don't want to hear.
You can blame 5v5 for the counterswapping
The game would be fine without the 3 horseman of the apocalypse being in every game. Other tanks have soft counter that you can play around with relative ease compared to Mauga hog and orisa. Not a 5v5 thing, entirely a balance thing.
Balance thing. Thats why its been an issue since open alpha?@@skyler7017
Anyone else feel like they're dying faster as tank after the midseason update. I feel like im just exploding the second I peek.
Armor changes - you're better against low damage rapid fire characters like tracer and from what I understand weaker to larger single sources of damage like pharah rockets or widow shots
Thats because even tho the armor change is better against pellets hero like Tracer and Reaper, it became worst against normal heroes. Before the patch, every single damage was reduced by armor, reduced by less yes, but still everything.
i actually have to track storm arrows now if i play tank
@@gort42069 Don’t get me started on Storm arrows + discord now 😭
Arent they buffing hanzo eventually too??
Like get me off of this role lmaoo
@@gort42069you havnt been already? They’re the stuff of nightmares
Great timing I just woke up
Stop copying me
@@canlex goodmorning
Goodmorning, have a good day
I find it so silly that Orisa is a centaur a litteral half horse. she has a spear ... and instead of a speedy mobile charging and impaling tank. she is the most static one in the game. she is outsped by a guy with two machineguns and two hearts pumping and an 70yo space marine with a litteral wall in his pocket.
i need a 1 hour vid of this amazing content
The one thing I wish they did in overwatch (which I know it wont happen), is for them to make it so you cant switch heroes mid match, and then balance the characters around that fact
You can tho?
If you mean while alive, then definitely not. Imagine you’re playing sigma, then quickly swap to DVA to cancel Illari Ult or Flux. If you mean while dead… that exists.
@@Randomplaceinruralamerica sorry, i meant cant switch heroes like you currently can in the game, I fixed the typo
Hearing him repeat "Ori" made me instantly die laughing 😂
A lot of people call mauga "Maui," and it makes me want to die inside every time
Echo hot rod with gold weapon skin looks good. Also, carbon fiber with jade looks real good too
Only hard couner swaping had me laughing my as* of
You forgot to mention that javelin spin is just another defence matrix sigma ability copy
Orisa with a movement ability is the most insane take I've heard in a while. She exists as she does because sometimes you just need your tank to be a wall. She's boring af and annoying to play against but she's a necessary evil.
I only accept her because she keeps hog in check since they just love buffing hog up since his rework that did nothing. I hate orisa cause I’m a rein main but I hate hog more on basically every other tank more
if its a necessary evil to have a hero like that then the game is poorly designed
@@Moffattt well duh. That's why they gave 5v5. Instead of making roles enjoyable to play...they reworked the fundamentals to mitigate the problem.
Why is she a necessary evil?
very unccessarry evil, orisa can be fun and not evil instead of boring and evil. Its not a problem they can like just do that please let them do that dear god please.
They should replace fortify with an ability that lets you throw a teammate on your back and charge. 😂
In my opinion the only way to "fix" the endless counterswapping is to make a new game mode called "No-Swap" or something. Basically like Paladins how you can't change your hero once you've locked in. I would honestly play that mode 24/7 over role queue where people think they're playing Pokémon and they HAVE to send out a grass type to your water type
Me watching as my teammate switches to sombra immediately after we lose the first fight (he doesn't know how to play sombra) also yeah i'd play that mode in a heartbeat
Problem is that it will be on your tank to take the best tank cause if your tank picks Dva and theirs picks Zarya, it’s done.
In Paladins, the item and load-out system is what makes countering impossible cause if their character is CC centric? Just buy resilience, they have deployable abilities, buy the item, too much cooldown? Item and loadout.
@@TheLastEgg08 i mean dva can also just ignore the zarya and go for the backline, tons of dva players i've seen just ignore the zarya altogether, also, if your tank has a poor matchup the DPS and support can also cover the matchups, tanks aren't the only ones that can control the matchups especially when characters like sombra, Ana and kiriko exist.
@@zander2758 Problem is tanks DO control the space making, when one of your dps sucks there’s always a second one to make up for that, same for supports but there’s only one tank, I’ll let you imagine how that goes.
Also imagine you have a Mauga on your team, they have an Orisa and an Ana but no Kiriko on your team, you’re just done for.
OW is still based on a counter system, Paladins isn’t because of the depth it has with the load-out system and items shop.
@@TheLastEgg08 there is no making up for 1 of your teammates being vastly worse than the others, any one person has a lot of agency on how the matches go so if they suck you aren't coming back from that no matter the role as this is a team game.
Also yeah, i'm a support main, if my tank goes mauga i go kiri to cover his problem points, if the team doesn't want to help shore up the teams weaknesses that is their fault and i did my part already trying to contribute to the team best i can.
Part of the reason I prefer Paladins is that there is much less of an emphasis on counter-picking, which makes sense since you can only change character once the match starts, and you only get to see who the other team have in ranked.
I was there for the booktok discussion Aware
2:35 The size of a ICBM missile? The size of an intercontinental ballistic missile missile? Man he really wanted to emphasize the size of that javelin
The finals catching strays 😭
Big boy is upset at a game that has fun gameplay
@@awsomedudeguy12corny ass comment.
@@awsomedudeguy12 that game is literally dominated by Hog and Mauga equivalents. Feels clunky. Looks like carboard
@@nurikkulanbaev3628 hoping the eye surgury goes well 🙏
@@nurikkulanbaev3628 i agree that heavy meta is annoying. However, the visuals are amazing
Jade Skin on Vanhelsing Cassidy works real good too
i wish the fakeout blinks didn't get patched out. i actually did kinda used this tech to fuck with people. and it WORKS EVERY TIME especially in a 1v1 situation you can poke hide for a min then blink off the wall to make them turn the corner and have their back to you. it was funny to see.
For orisa why does she have 2 spears when it doesnt show that she is equipped with 2 like junk mines, rein fire strike. If she uses spear or javelin spin using 1 of the 2 they borh need to go to cooldown. I just find that odd with orisa.
The best way to stop hard counter picking at tank would be go back to two tanks
I literally got told once because I was the tank it's my job to stay near the push bot
I either laugh at enemy tanks just standing on cart. Or when there’s like 4 stacked on bot. Or … scream at my tank for just chilling on cart instead of pushing up - likewise my team 4 stacked on the bot “DO SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE”
I think a fairly decent way to potentially stop hard counter swapping but still allow people to change heroes is to put a timer on swapping heroes. Something like every 30 seconds, every minute? There will be a sweet spot but idk I feel like being able to swap at any time is just annoying because you can never have fun as the heroes you want to play
Down here in the metal ranks tank seems easier to play now
The only thing hard about that Reinhardt skin combo was the light
roll for sandwich when
there was one yesterday, have some patience
I need a series called top 5 worst by flats
The only acceptable nickname for Orisa is horse
Replace orisa’s fortify with her bongo drum which increases her damage done by 15% with a 10% damage reduction to just herself for 10 seconds but cooldown for 25 seconds and range of like 15 meters which she can still engage with but can be destroyed
Nah you right jade hardlight rein looks great, I wasn't a fan of the hardlight hammer, but it works good with that starcraft skin for sure.
I'm wondering if the guy in the first ticktock was sober
0:53 fun fact: Ori is Finnish and means male horse
Day one of asking flats two to play “For Honor”
I don't normally comment on these, when I do it's few and far between. @8:05 man's was spittin'
11:25 wish he showed this off in a place with better lighting, lmao.
11:33 okay, glad I wasn't the only one.
Ori is a indie game it kinda threw me off a bit 😂
ily flats but the yap is insane at this point
5:03 to fix it bring back 6v6 just saying
Honestly, they should've kept that tracer bug as a tech
All i'm saying is Blizzard is in the perfect spot to drop diamond comp weapons and everyone would collectively be satisfied
i have a idea for a possible orisa rework, instead of having fortify, when you press shift orisa bends over and anyone one the team can ride her like a horse, when carrying someone you have your movement increased
7:50 THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been saying this forever.
So in flat's eyes, one rein skin that looks good for his weapon (in his opinion) makes it worthwhile as a competitive reward you unlock with specific currency on top of a skin you have to purchase?
That’s not what he said
I'm not traumatised. I'm LIBER-TEA drinkin' Democracy Soldier
@8:15 as a healer or tank I would LOVE if one of the dps sat on cart while we pushed forward :(
Ori means like male horse/stallion, so close enough
About the Jade weapons.. Hear me out : Make them matte and slightly translucent, like actual jade. I don't understand the neon green and the "shiny metal" finish on them...
I don't think Orisa is boring, but them being meta for half a year made us hate it.
Troll blink should be readded, thats a tech, not a bug. It requires you to use a blink so i feel like its kind of fair.
Countet swapping in spawn is put endpoint. It can't go lower than this
good way to fix counter swapping, dont let the charcters be shown on scoreboard. Makes it to whre they have to lose so muc time going from spawn with new swap making them lose. make sa down side to swapping and forces you to try first
That tracer one was actually pretty cool why was that patched out lol
So with weapon skins what if they added skins for hitting a specific rank (obviously gold would have to be changed to something else) but like if your play you get a plat skin diamond you get diamond and all previous skins etc
That was a cool Tracer tech that Blizzard removed because they don’t like fun.
Give Orisa a gallop like charge that knocks people out of the way and gives her over health for each person hit with the charge and allow her to use javelin spin while charging, instead of her fortify
congrats you’ve just created mauga
@@ProtsmanPanther Nah, Mauga doesn't get overhealth on his charge, and knocks people down in his stomp.
I'm thinking like what happens when someone is slightly off center of a rein pin
There is away to fix it and its called 6v6
5v5 doesn't work with evidence. Lol
i will say, orisa is a centaur... she probably SHOULD have a movement ability
Wait… I play OW2 and DBD… how did he know?! 😂😭😂
6:14 I feel called out I like the finals ToT leave me alone
Give orisa her old gun back with bigger/more damage bullets in close range absolutely awful damage at range and replace fortify with like a stamped ability! Moves fasters, resets overheat on weapon and does damage to players in front of her👏
dps players think there are only 2 players on the team who matter and the rest are just there to back them up
the truth is there is only 1 player who matters and that is the tank
Concept of 4 pushing up so 1 pushes cart to create space is not how you play over watch 2 under diamond lobbies lol . Plat and below are playing cart
Bill Maher has this Big Bang Theory sort of comedy. People dont really laugh or cheer because its funny. They do because they got fed something that feels smart so they feel smart and good.
I find hog way more annoying, at least against orisa you can play space and time your engagement. Againsy hog you peak to kill him and your either hooked and instakilled or heals and mitigates almost all damage on a 2 SECOND COOL DOWN!!! Literally all you can do is ignore him kill the supports and hope you dont get randomly hooked
What if blizzard makes it that you can’t see when someone swaps?
New content? No way
Orisa is boring and frustrating to play against because her javelin has long range, and can cancel a LOT of ultimates if used on them. You can say "just ult when she doesn't have it. But sometimes its either not an option, or players (especially metal ranks) will either not be able to track the CD, or will just not think about it and become frustrated when their ult is cancelled by 7 second ability. Also the spin should be removed for a shield and fortify should either make you even slower or not as much DR. Spin sucks.
couldnt counterswapping be stopped by putting a timer on how much you can swap characters?
Give me back OW1 orisa. Nerf the fvck out of fortify and reduce damage amp from bongo, maybe reduce halt to 1 enemy per use and we’re good.
She worked better as a poke tank that could actually die when you get on top of her, versus a brawl tank that can out brawl actual brawl tanks
Hey I saw my Tiktok comment on that swapping video 5:11
“6v6 would fix this btw”
good to see flats still has like A tier game balance idea's while having the worlds worst takes on what a good skin is
Orisa on release WAS more fun than current Orisa. I'm not saying bring the pull orb back, I'm just saying it WAS the only way to get me to play tank.
I love watching recaps of why overwatch 2 is an unplayable game for anyone who enjoyed truly competitive games
You want orisa to get MOVEMENT???? That way she chase tanks down even HARDER, orisa mains are smoking crack istg
Is there a difference between him saying something is "going hard" vs..."it's fire"? Sounds the same with the context. The jade skin mixed with another skin is "fire". Or it's "goes so hard".
What da dog doin?
i think there are 2 better rein skins, personally I like the 2020 all-star skin with jade and the paragon with hard light and gold.
In terms of how fun she is to play she's just Sigma but worse. Sigma is her but he has a dozen meaningful interactions.
Was counter swapping a problem with 6v6 and 2 tanks?
make orisa able to fly
I prefer flats over flats 2. Seems like a nicer guy
the skin problem is i think a texture problem its jade make it look like jade not some gross dipped mall knife
I don’t touch ranked cause of Que times
spinny spear is DUM give Orisa her shield back
Me. I'm the person who thinks jade weapons are sick af.
Orisa is fun
Tf
The finals is good
NO TF ITS NOT LOL 😂
Barely hear anyone talking about it 😂😂
the rein skin show off would've looked better with just the base skin hammer hard light + jade is not it big feller