The last 30 minutes of this movie shows how much of a larger scale this should be. This story could honestly be an entire miniseries, or even its own tv show. There’s just too much they weren’t able to include in a 2 hour movie
Regular theater was enough for me. I jumped at almost every gunshot because most of the film is quiet and then BAM there’s a shot going off. I’d probably have a heart attack in the IMAX showing 😂. People think this is an action film. It’s not. It’s a slow burn drama film thats tense and has the most action in the final 20mins or so. It’s a good movie though. I’d recommend.
@@saturn_illus Same here. I felt bad for the guy sitting next to me because I kept jumping so much. The movie was intense to and I felt like at any time something could blow up or they could be attacked. They did a great job of bringing that kind of intensity to the film. Idk if I’d have the same jumpy reactions if the film wasn’t as intense as it was. I saw John Wick 4 in IMAX and nothing made me jump in that one and that film was insanely loud and bassy in IMAX.
One of the underlying themes MUST be the fact that after 30 years of War in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria we literally have how many experienced combat vets? Millions? Living in our population. I see it right here on TH-cam. There's a video of a soldier firing a 50cal machine gun and the comments are full of knowledge that no average person would know with regards to operation, maintenance, and quirks of a military issue 50 cal machine gun.
though a helicopter hovering that low really requires a skilled pilot, due to airflow around the buildings. and of course, any pilot who has served in Mogo knows to stay out of RPG range :)
@@shoemcflextheflex2199it’s obviously there mostly for cinematography but you could argue that staying low gets between it and any radar or infrared guided SAMs and stays below rooftops that might have MANPAD teams on them
I've realised the one thing this was lacking. It got all the realistic civil war tropes right - multi sided, strange bedfellows, everyone wearing the same camo, neutrals, psychopaths taking advantage of the situation, atrocities, massacres. But the one thing lacking are mercenaries, or "volunteers". Civil wars attract them and America with it's huge borders and easy access to guns should have made it really attractive.
@@Germanator good point! Though they're reporters rather than combatants. Not to mention the embedded British reporter's too. So I did miss out the whole foreign correspondents angle. But they are still distinct from mercenaries as they are different kinds of stormcrows
@@stealmysunshine They fought in some kind of militia, maybe green card holders or mercenaries. Film lets a lot of questions open on purpose. The scene was quite intense and I was asking myself if he would shoot me as well as a German. Better be careful on my next trip to the USA. Guess I’m from Montana then….
The Apache 30mm chain gun sounds like nothing that. The rate of fire in reality is much slower and sounds actually a lot as far as RPM close to what an M60 sounds like only a hell of a lot louder. Also, the Apache would be standing off and taking out targets, not right up close like that and with the targeting system they have, they can do it out to 700-800 yards with ease.
The Apache could be flying low to avoid missile defense systems no? I am not sure if it would be that low but there are several images of a KA-52 in Ukraine flying low like that and attacking targets in a staffing run
what I thought was that the helicopters would use the high rises as a shield from the anti-air systems in the city. A literal corridor of steel and concrete.
There were apparently about 4 "factions", but they didn't explain them at all. It was all factions vs the faction in DC the third term prez belonged to.
Dawg the fact that you can't tell who's who until the end where the WF soldiers are rocking their flag patch because everyone is wearing the same uniform.
Field signs. We used them extensively in the early English Civil War, ribbons or leaves or sashes of different colours. Ukrainian soldiers use blue tape today to differentiate them from a visually similar enemy. I see no reason why modern soldiers in a U.S scenario wouldn't do the same.
@@LaMurteDeSinaloathey didn’t give a reason for it. The film doesn’t tell you WHY the civil war is happening it just tells THAT it’s happening. It’s an interesting and entertaining film that’s surprisingly politically neutral, something I can tell you I think we all need for many different reasons. Come to Christ if you haven’t yet AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
@@PthunderYTI can already tell y’all have never heard of modified attack helicopters or been in any form of military combat. The one you seeing is modified and not the original.
If...? It won't. And any and all 'civil wars' would likely result in a lot of history being destroyed, no matter which side won. For the reasons someone else stated, none of the sides are going to want democracy to survive to a degree that doesn't favor their agenda or else they fought/died for nothing. Doesn't matter who the 'good guys' are. Civil war = dictatorship way more often than not. Again though ... it won't. The only thing that changes this is if they allow immigrants to join the military. Well then, when that happens... then shit 'might' hit the fan, in time. And I'm sure it is a plan for some crazy far lefties and why they push it on the hill as their realistic voter base evaporates
It's a simple truth. There is no enduring empire in human history. It's just a matter of time before they fall. Humans are fallible and "the centre cannot hold". It's just difficult to predict exactly when they fall, but in the end they all do.
I'm amazed nobody has said "but not America because..... American Exceptionalism". I said to American friends ten years ago that America would fall, like every other great power and back then they refused to believe it. Yet here we are ten years later.
Check out what's going on in Haiti. Miserable doesn't come close to describing that situation. It's hell on earth. Not just because of the warfare, but because an already weak economy is essentially nonexistent and the civilians are starving to death by the hundreds of thousands.
I also got Yugoslavia civil war vibes too, with everyone wearing the same camo, multiple opposing forces and just dickheads shooting people up to shoot people up. And extremely different shades of grey verging on black.
@@stealmysunshine And the war crimes. There are so many war crimes committed by so many different sides to so many different people it's almost funny in a pitch black comedy way.
@@no-lifenoah7861 yes! And that's also important. Whilst the balance fallacy is just that - no side is ever exactly as bad as each others and- you can guarantee the minute ny kind of cause us involved that war crimes are committed. Which is why I only found the neutrals, those offering relief and the two counter snipers in any way sympathetic.
First off, helicopters will never ever ever fly that low in the city just to take out some enemies, you only see that in videogames like Call of Duty or movies. You never fly that low, you can easily get taken out with rockets or grenades or people can even throw heavy steel cables across to jam up the rotors or tail rotor
@@alexandervill146Really? Hm, weird. Well I hope they explained some sort of motivation. It's a really odd pairing, but would definitely be a formidable one.
At one point in the previews someone says three term President. Presidents in the US can only serve two terms. A dictator would be enough to bring California and Texas together.
As both California and Texas are part of the broader Hispanic U.S. there may be common ground there, which puts me in mind of either a film or television drama serial of a few decades back that I saw on British television that was a bit like 'Civil War' in that it was imagining a war in the near to medium-term future where the UK, in an alliance with various other European nations, was at war with a U.S. where Spanish had taken over as the official language, allied to other North, Central and South American nations. It was a very interesting premise and I'll have to look into what it was called as I've forgotten that, sadly.
From my veteran friend after watching it it the theatre: ...oh yeah, about that Apache, they probably didn't need that chopper. They have tanks, and in my book that tank should've been used to blast those , what seems is, easily clear and visible firing positions in the buildings. [...] yeah right, it is probably low to avoid AA fire, but that seems overly low for me lol ... and btw, if the soldiers in these buildings had something like a javelin or RPG... [we both laughed]
But I do have to point out tho, the movie is a quite 'deep moral thought' type of movie. Not the usually action/battle pacted war movie from hollywood.
if they had actual AA in dc those apaches would have been picked off a long time ago. At no point in time will you see these helicopters flying so low and close to buildings. It's chain gun is capable of engaging targets from as far a 4000 meters.
I loved this movie! Happy to see it in theaters, although some of the mixing wasn't the best. I get why they did it, but it was still ridiculously loud sometimes and suddenly. Overall though, super happy I watched this and it will stick with me. Incredibly epic battle scene at the end. Very interesting and tense movie.
The White House Assault scene was my favorite part of the movie (IMAX was amazing asf). Reminded me so much of the Reichstag takeover and “Whiskey Hotel” from MW2. Great film and interesting perspective of the journalists. Hope to see more movies in this setting
@@pavehawk10Well ita said that literally most of the loyalist army surrendered before the Battle took place so it was just like the combats after the Liberation of Paris. But still, the tanks were there for some reason oh boy but the loyalist were stupidier, they used their only AT on a normal military vehicle that could've been taken out with a grenade just to seconds later some tanks arrive. Or may its me and I dont understand the situation
@nosense8744 the vehicle was suppressing them and needed to be taken out quick. The decision to use a missle on it makes sense. Would you sit there and let them suppress you, so they could charge in
with all that talk about Texas 'seceding from the union' when any time they don't get what they want from Washington/Capital Hill, so how long have they been saying that?. Also not to long ago, 30+ percent of California voted to break the state in two, that's NorCal and SoCal. Point being ..... be careful what you wish for.
@@antoniobautista1108 California was never an independent nation. It was part of New Spain until 1821 when Mexico won its independence and then taken over by the USA as a result of the Mexican War in 1848. It was a Federal Territory until 1850 when it joined the Union as a State.
That was the WORST portrayal of an Apache attack helicopter I have ever seen in recent memory. It doesn’t sound proper in the way it’s rotor. Blades are supposed to sound. The chin mounted gun is not correct. And really there’s just a whole lot of other things. It almost sounds like the production team took the sound of something like a bell Ranger for the rotor noise. And the gun sounds more like a turbine, spinning up. Which no gun in at least the American arsenal sounds like that. The closest thing maybe would be the Dillon minigun.
Hey, worked around Military Aircraft a fair bit of time and have seen this in cinemas in IMAX. Rotor sound was 100% accurate in cinemas, sounded like an apache. The rate of fire of the gun was incorrect however it didn’t seem like it was operating the standard 30MM on the apache and seems to be a modified M-134. Please see this movie in theatres, will not disappoint! This apache scene was awesome in cinemas!
@@Jason-eu5zx on you. I don’t play call of duty. In fact, I haven’t played a call of duty game since probably world at war. If that. No. My expertise comes from the simple fact that I was an army brat as a kid. And while my family members, none of them were a Apache pilots or anything it wasn’t uncommon to have them around. Well, I can forgive the sounds of the rotors slightly. The gun however, is completely false. First off it sounds like as I said before. Something similar to like a turbo charger or some kind of spinning up. Secondly the fire rate is way too high. Unlike the OBRA family of combat helicopters used by the Marines. Which is armed with a three barrel rotary canon. An Apache is armed with a single barrel canon. And it doesn’t fire that quickly quickly. In a way I get where your thoughts of the video game things come from. Because well, let’s face it. This happens a lot. You have people that play certain video games, long enough and then all of a sudden they think they are experts in these kinds of things. You have someone who plays a game like war or world of tanks and all of a sudden they are an expert and armored warfare. but you also need to take consideration the fact that they are out there that have either real world exposure to the thing in question or they’ve done research.
@@nicolasmun13 even if it is a movie and normally you would say that suspension of disbelief could be taken. There are certain aspects that at least in my opinion don’t need to be so blatantly incorrect. Seriously. You can find soundbites of actual Apache helicopters flying, and firing their guns. and they both sound nothing like this. For the most part, I am completely willing to overlook the sound of the rotors. But the guns noise is a completely different story. Firstly, not only is it the sound but it’s also the rate of fire. The rate of fire gives it the impression that the Apache is armed with something similar to a Cobra attack helicopter. And while the cobra has a triple barrel rotary canon. The Apache on the other hand has only a single barrel canon. And it doesn’t fire that quickly. If a single barrel cannon fired at that high of a rate of fire, the barrel would overheat, relatively quickly.
Watching this with my mom and step dad, my step father looked at this scene, scoffing and rolling his eyes and he said: "These mf's even got the apache helicopter wrong."
with all that talk about Texas 'seceding from the union' when any time they don't get what they want from Washington/Capital Hill, so how long have they been saying that?. Also not to long ago, 30+ percent of California voted to break the state in two, that's NorCal and SoCal. Point being ..... be careful what you wish for.
Without ever saying WHY there’s a war, it accurately depicts what one might feel and look like: every random buffoon has a semiautomatic-turned-automatic, and a grudge.
@@st-6837To the loyalist, yes, maybe they did, in the movie we see the last days of the war so pretty much that support (got crushed if they send soldiers) or (wasnt enough)
If that civil war happened again like in the movie, i can't imagine how china, russia and iran would take the advantage of this chaos like trying to "help" One side of the war
They would take advantage to topple, puppet governments that operate on the frontiers of the US empire. For Russia it is the European Union, for China it is Taiwan and Australia and for Iran, the Gulf states and the jwesh nation.
When you change plot structure, the point of the story and even the genre and flip it on its head in the middle of the movie, it’s incredibly difficult to pull off. Parasite 2019. That movie won the Oscar. Bong Joon Ho succeeded in this risky maneuver. Alex Garland fell short.
Chain guns don't shoot like rotary guns, you can notice that it looks like the 30mm M230 autocannon which is a chain gun and it shoots at 600 RPM a rotary can do it at 1000, tbh a rotary gun would be more effective on the Apache it could destroy enemy helicopters faster.
"Erm, actually, Apaches don't sound like that, so inaccurate, can't stand it!" Just enjoy the damn movie, it was an epic scene that you're ruining with your precious preferences.
The tittle of the movie es INCORRECT. It's OK for publicitary intentions, bur not represent the "narrative motivation". Should be something like: "the brutalty of war journalist work", because thatis the center of the movie. The Civil war is only the "stage", but the same effect could be achieved in terrosits attack i.e.
Depends on what the sides are doing. If one side is disrupting the balance of earth and creating something like Mechagodzilla, then Godzilla would be with the opposing side
@@lgnrome and also, watching a movie at home has one other advantage over a theater: at home, you can rewind and fast forward and get to the good parts you like the most.
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"Ramirez! Take down that helicopter!" - Sgt Foley.
"Ramirez! Get the Fu- *static* off the roof!"
Pretty much where my mind went during this scene lol
Mw2❤❤❤🎉
@@abcdef27669 What ever happened to Sgt Foley in that game in Washington DC? Killed or not?!?
The last 30 minutes of this movie shows how much of a larger scale this should be. This story could honestly be an entire miniseries, or even its own tv show. There’s just too much they weren’t able to include in a 2 hour movie
I agree. You can tell they also cut out a lot of scenes that gave some background info.
Honestly if this isn't turned into a series I will be disappointed.
i agree they should explained this into a trilogy or a miniseries
same I wish there was more action scenes
100% They left out a massive amount of information. I was pissed after watching that.
I recommend seeing this in IMAX! The sound quality is on another level!
Yup, it’s a movie to watch it on imax theater fue sure
Regular theater was enough for me. I jumped at almost every gunshot because most of the film is quiet and then BAM there’s a shot going off. I’d probably have a heart attack in the IMAX showing 😂. People think this is an action film. It’s not. It’s a slow burn drama film thats tense and has the most action in the final 20mins or so. It’s a good movie though. I’d recommend.
@@49ersFan415 sniper shot and red sunglasses shot jumpscared the living shit out of me in IMAX
@@saturn_illus Same here. I felt bad for the guy sitting next to me because I kept jumping so much. The movie was intense to and I felt like at any time something could blow up or they could be attacked. They did a great job of bringing that kind of intensity to the film. Idk if I’d have the same jumpy reactions if the film wasn’t as intense as it was. I saw John Wick 4 in IMAX and nothing made me jump in that one and that film was insanely loud and bassy in IMAX.
Dude i can tell you that all the sounds.....Holy, ive never heard such an accurate portrail of Gunfire
One of the underlying themes MUST be the fact that after 30 years of War in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria we literally have how many experienced combat vets? Millions? Living in our population. I see it right here on TH-cam. There's a video of a soldier firing a 50cal machine gun and the comments are full of knowledge that no average person would know with regards to operation, maintenance, and quirks of a military issue 50 cal machine gun.
we really dont have that many vets that have seen combat. on top of that vets that are combat effect
@barackobama9215 you really think so?
Don't believe everything you read on TH-cam. People lie and make up stories all the time, ever heard of Stolen Valor.
@@barackobama9215 we have at least a million or so. That's plenty.
Just like in the real Civil war, how many active duty would remain loyal the "United States" much less carry out orders against their fellow citizens.
The fighting in DC was what made this movie
Remember MW2 when Ramriez and Sgt Foley fought in the city limits
Its reminiscent to the battle of Berlin
Definitely made me think of mw2
@CrossOfBayonne how to forget whiskey hotel, man. The best COD ever.
@christo-gj1qk How about Aachen when the 1st Infantry Division stormed the first German city to be captured, It was also depicted in COD WWII
The urban combat scenes were decently good
though a helicopter hovering that low really requires a skilled pilot, due to airflow around the buildings. and of course, any pilot who has served in Mogo knows to stay out of RPG range :)
@@alertgasperan Apache definitely would not need to be that close
never seen/heard a mini gun make that kind of sound before, but those tracer rounds sure do look pretty.
@@shoemcflextheflex2199it’s obviously there mostly for cinematography but you could argue that staying low gets between it and any radar or infrared guided SAMs and stays below rooftops that might have MANPAD teams on them
Almost like World War II era combat footage
I've realised the one thing this was lacking. It got all the realistic civil war tropes right - multi sided, strange bedfellows, everyone wearing the same camo, neutrals, psychopaths taking advantage of the situation, atrocities, massacres. But the one thing lacking are mercenaries, or "volunteers". Civil wars attract them and America with it's huge borders and easy access to guns should have made it really attractive.
What about the HK guy who get shoot? What’s his take and his friend?
@@Germanator good point! Though they're reporters rather than combatants. Not to mention the embedded British reporter's too. So I did miss out the whole foreign correspondents angle. But they are still distinct from mercenaries as they are different kinds of stormcrows
@@stealmysunshine They fought in some kind of militia, maybe green card holders or mercenaries. Film lets a lot of questions open on purpose. The scene was quite intense and I was asking myself if he would shoot me as well as a German. Better be careful on my next trip to the USA. Guess I’m from Montana then….
@@Germanator I think that's a fair assessment my friend. And a good point made well 😁.
Imagine being on Alaska or Hawaii in civil war (note, there is no US civil war it's now new China provinces)
Watching this movie in IMAX, the sound design did not need to go that hard holy shit
The Apache 30mm chain gun sounds like nothing that. The rate of fire in reality is much slower and sounds actually a lot as far as RPM close to what an M60 sounds like only a hell of a lot louder. Also, the Apache would be standing off and taking out targets, not right up close like that and with the targeting system they have, they can do it out to 700-800 yards with ease.
maybe supply chain problems for Apache spare parts forced the rebel Texans to improvised and had to settle with a mounted mini gun
It’s a modified version
The Apache could be flying low to avoid missile defense systems no?
I am not sure if it would be that low but there are several images of a KA-52 in Ukraine flying low like that and attacking targets in a staffing run
If you look there are CIWS tracers in the back ground so they have to fly low and use the buildings for cover.
what I thought was that the helicopters would use the high rises as a shield from the anti-air systems in the city. A literal corridor of steel and concrete.
Wait. Wait. "The so-called Western Forces of"... Texas, AND California? Well there's clue #1 you're the bad guy, if those two are tag-teaming you.
The Republicans probably overthrew Newsom and the Democrat government there
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” -Sun Tsu, possibly
There were apparently about 4 "factions", but they didn't explain them at all. It was all factions vs the faction in DC the third term prez belonged to.
Dawg the fact that you can't tell who's who until the end where the WF soldiers are rocking their flag patch because everyone is wearing the same uniform.
Yea I’m pretty sure Rebel Forces would use older Camo to look different from Government Troops
You’re right. That two-star patch definitely saved them from friendly fire
@@rubenlopez3364 I did see some Marpat and AOR on the spotter but everyone was wearing Multicam
early American Civil War allusion
Field signs. We used them extensively in the early English Civil War, ribbons or leaves or sashes of different colours. Ukrainian soldiers use blue tape today to differentiate them from a visually similar enemy. I see no reason why modern soldiers in a U.S scenario wouldn't do the same.
The sound and visual effects are Oscar worthy
Are you kidding? this movie looks like CGI from the 90s, and the sound doesn't sound any better than any other movie.
@@DRob-gq3ki you’re entitled to your opinion
this movie was interesting...just finished watching it in the theater
And they found a good reason for Texas and California to fight on the same side?
@@LaMurteDeSinaloa Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas would whoop on Texas and California if it ever came to it
@@LaMurteDeSinaloathey didn’t give a reason for it. The film doesn’t tell you WHY the civil war is happening it just tells THAT it’s happening. It’s an interesting and entertaining film that’s surprisingly politically neutral, something I can tell you I think we all need for many different reasons. Come to Christ if you haven’t yet AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
@@adwarriorlegend1 Absolutely, for our Chris and Country.
@@greenghost5009 I wouldn’t be sure about that one
I can't get the idea of Ron being president out of my head anytime this movie is mentioned
Yeah me too 😂😂😂
Already can't stand the inaccuracies of the depicted Apache helicopter
Suspension of disbelief is required for movies
@@TZ19999 This is too much for so many of us.
Haha when did the 30mm shoot at 1000 rounds per second
Edit: Yes, ik it's a modified Apache. Some people don't get sarcasim
@@TZ19999ah fuck it
@@PthunderYTI can already tell y’all have never heard of modified attack helicopters or been in any form of military combat. The one you seeing is modified and not the original.
If they used an AH-1W Super Cobra or AH-1Z Viper, that could have been more believable with the sound of the canon fire
The only think I would want to say, if this ever really happened. Could we please leave the good historical sites alone? Since it is all our history.
too late, the Lincoln Memorial is ......
I think the powers that be would very much like to destroy our history.
If...? It won't. And any and all 'civil wars' would likely result in a lot of history being destroyed, no matter which side won. For the reasons someone else stated, none of the sides are going to want democracy to survive to a degree that doesn't favor their agenda or else they fought/died for nothing. Doesn't matter who the 'good guys' are. Civil war = dictatorship way more often than not.
Again though ... it won't. The only thing that changes this is if they allow immigrants to join the military. Well then, when that happens... then shit 'might' hit the fan, in time. And I'm sure it is a plan for some crazy far lefties and why they push it on the hill as their realistic voter base evaporates
@@al28854 I think they just shot it up not destroyed it
Oh yeah and let like 30 soldiers hiding in it behind our lines? Oh god no, call an apache on it
“ALL EMPIRES FALL” yep hmmm foreshadowing???
It's a absolute foreshadowing. This is the purpose of these movies: unfortunately, China will take over.
Biden will save us
@@OddDudeSays 45 yr track record says otherwise.
It's a simple truth. There is no enduring empire in human history. It's just a matter of time before they fall. Humans are fallible and "the centre cannot hold". It's just difficult to predict exactly when they fall, but in the end they all do.
I'm amazed nobody has said "but not America because..... American Exceptionalism". I said to American friends ten years ago that America would fall, like every other great power and back then they refused to believe it. Yet here we are ten years later.
That inaccuracy of the Apache helicopter is why War Thunder players leak classified documents
if i get killed by a dude with blonde dyed hair and different colored nails imma be so mad
What are you, 12?
Agreed. It was weird.
In the 90s early 2000s lots of people bleached their hair they were Eminem fans.
@@doublevision84 yeah....I'm asham3d to say I did
Those were to identify what side they were on. We see the same form of ID in the sniper scene earlier.
Watching this in IMAX took it to another level . Also living 10 min from where this scene took place was tough
i liked this movie it was about war photography more than the dystopian civil war
they did a good job of keeping politics out of movie
they mentioned maga and antifa
Dumb move for a movie like this
@@shanmantvactually pretty smart. Don’t feed into people’s fear and others dreams
And intelligence
@monkhead7217 a war like this would start because of politics and political party alignment.
Saw it today. A civil war would be miserable
It's not a commom american experience but lots of countries recently had it.
Check out what's going on in Haiti. Miserable doesn't come close to describing that situation. It's hell on earth. Not just because of the warfare, but because an already weak economy is essentially nonexistent and the civilians are starving to death by the hundreds of thousands.
This whole scene gives off World War II vibes especially in the European theatre where urban warfare was commonplace
I also got Yugoslavia civil war vibes too, with everyone wearing the same camo, multiple opposing forces and just dickheads shooting people up to shoot people up. And extremely different shades of grey verging on black.
@@stealmysunshine And the war crimes. There are so many war crimes committed by so many different sides to so many different people it's almost funny in a pitch black comedy way.
@@no-lifenoah7861 yes! And that's also important. Whilst the balance fallacy is just that - no side is ever exactly as bad as each others and- you can guarantee the minute ny kind of cause us involved that war crimes are committed. Which is why I only found the neutrals, those offering relief and the two counter snipers in any way sympathetic.
@@stealmysunshine True especially when Black Ops 6 is around the corner
@@Voucher765 I like that analogy my friend. Be safe and I hope you have a great day
The action scenes in D.C. are worth the price of the movie ticket. It had a lot of shock value.
First off, helicopters will never ever ever fly that low in the city just to take out some enemies, you only see that in videogames like Call of Duty or movies. You never fly that low, you can easily get taken out with rockets or grenades or people can even throw heavy steel cables across to jam up the rotors or tail rotor
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And guess what… it’s a movie 💀
Spot on!
It’s a movie who cares
You know this movie is basically call of duty right!
Best war film since Battle: Los Angeles
0:30 why does this look EXACTLY like the deserted highway from The Walking Dead??
Because it is
Interested in seeing this movie. Im curious how the director thinks that Texas and California would be on the same side??? We shall see I guess.
The politics aren’t spoken of which I believe is a great thing
@@alexandervill146Really? Hm, weird. Well I hope they explained some sort of motivation. It's a really odd pairing, but would definitely be a formidable one.
Not stated in the movie but if I had to guess I would say probably bc they have a common enemy and have decided to work together for now at least.
At one point in the previews someone says three term President. Presidents in the US can only serve two terms. A dictator would be enough to bring California and Texas together.
As both California and Texas are part of the broader Hispanic U.S. there may be common ground there, which puts me in mind of either a film or television drama serial of a few decades back that I saw on British television that was a bit like 'Civil War' in that it was imagining a war in the near to medium-term future where the UK, in an alliance with various other European nations, was at war with a U.S. where Spanish had taken over as the official language, allied to other North, Central and South American nations. It was a very interesting premise and I'll have to look into what it was called as I've forgotten that, sadly.
From my veteran friend after watching it it the theatre: ...oh yeah, about that Apache, they probably didn't need that chopper. They have tanks, and in my book that tank should've been used to blast those , what seems is, easily clear and visible firing positions in the buildings. [...] yeah right, it is probably low to avoid AA fire, but that seems overly low for me lol ... and btw, if the soldiers in these buildings had something like a javelin or RPG...
[we both laughed]
But I do have to point out tho, the movie is a quite 'deep moral thought' type of movie. Not the usually action/battle pacted war movie from hollywood.
if they had actual AA in dc those apaches would have been picked off a long time ago. At no point in time will you see these helicopters flying so low and close to buildings. It's chain gun is capable of engaging targets from as far a 4000 meters.
@@texas6792 I agree with you. We were just trying to make sense of why that chopper was there 🤣. That's why we pointed out it was WAY TOO LOW lmao.
@@chengzi6416 Haha makes sense brother, I've seen the movie I guess they just put it so close to the buildings to make it looker to the audience.
Did he ever see combat
I loved this movie! Happy to see it in theaters, although some of the mixing wasn't the best. I get why they did it, but it was still ridiculously loud sometimes and suddenly. Overall though, super happy I watched this and it will stick with me. Incredibly epic battle scene at the end. Very interesting and tense movie.
That Apache is badass
This is Hollywood, but I’m guessing we can all agree we don’t want a Civil War, ever 😂
I can only imagine how this movie sounded in Dolby
Is this a documentary? 😊
Nope, just foreshadowing is all.
Yeah, a democratic and republican lead state working together ... very realistic.
Not yet…
Yes 😢
@CrniWuk you'll find this actually happens rather consistently when it comes to down to sending troops somewhere.
Reminds me of Olympus has Fallen
Helicopter sounds like it's shooting laser beams
The White House Assault scene was my favorite part of the movie (IMAX was amazing asf). Reminded me so much of the Reichstag takeover and “Whiskey Hotel” from MW2. Great film and interesting perspective of the journalists. Hope to see more movies in this setting
My boa said it reminded him of “Freedom Fighters” from a journalist view
These Scenes Slapped in IMAX! Absolute High Quality Sound.
Everyone who didn’t like Joker: don’t let dumb people watch this movie, it will make them violent
What kind of American are you boy?
@@MenaCourtadeProductions- One who pays for eggs over the cost of a movie. :)
For all the tanks they had in the city battle...there only like one that used it's main gun.
They Probably didn’t want to level the city.
@@pavehawk10Well ita said that literally most of the loyalist army surrendered before the Battle took place so it was just like the combats after the Liberation of Paris. But still, the tanks were there for some reason oh boy but the loyalist were stupidier, they used their only AT on a normal military vehicle that could've been taken out with a grenade just to seconds later some tanks arrive. Or may its me and I dont understand the situation
@nosense8744 the vehicle was suppressing them and needed to be taken out quick. The decision to use a missle on it makes sense.
Would you sit there and let them suppress you, so they could charge in
Trojan horse. Proceed.
In what world would tx and ca join forces I wonder.
Interesting premise, I'll wait for HBO or whatever tho.
Both were independent nations before joining the US
with all that talk about Texas 'seceding from the union' when any time they don't get what they want from Washington/Capital Hill, so how long have they been saying that?. Also not to long ago, 30+ percent of California voted to break the state in two, that's NorCal and SoCal. Point being ..... be careful what you wish for.
@@potatobang7713 Lol definitely fantasy land then; neither side would ever allow for a non party system. :)
@@antoniobautista1108 California was never an independent nation. It was part of New Spain until 1821 when Mexico won its independence and then taken over by the USA as a result of the Mexican War in 1848. It was a Federal Territory until 1850 when it joined the Union as a State.
Damn Pablo Escobar Got Resurrect Again 😂😂😂
i cannot get over the 3000rpm 30m on the apache😂
ps it should be around 650
That was the WORST portrayal of an Apache attack helicopter I have ever seen in recent memory.
It doesn’t sound proper in the way it’s rotor. Blades are supposed to sound. The chin mounted gun is not correct. And really there’s just a whole lot of other things.
It almost sounds like the production team took the sound of something like a bell Ranger for the rotor noise. And the gun sounds more like a turbine, spinning up. Which no gun in at least the American arsenal sounds like that. The closest thing maybe would be the Dillon minigun.
Also just a movie with a made up story. Lol
Hey, worked around Military Aircraft a fair bit of time and have seen this in cinemas in IMAX.
Rotor sound was 100% accurate in cinemas, sounded like an apache. The rate of fire of the gun was incorrect however it didn’t seem like it was operating the standard 30MM on the apache and seems to be a modified M-134.
Please see this movie in theatres, will not disappoint!
This apache scene was awesome in cinemas!
Ah yes I’m sure your countless hours playing Call of Duty have shown you how an accurate Apache attack helicopter sounds like
@@Jason-eu5zx on you. I don’t play call of duty. In fact, I haven’t played a call of duty game since probably world at war. If that.
No. My expertise comes from the simple fact that I was an army brat as a kid. And while my family members, none of them were a Apache pilots or anything it wasn’t uncommon to have them around.
Well, I can forgive the sounds of the rotors slightly. The gun however, is completely false. First off it sounds like as I said before. Something similar to like a turbo charger or some kind of spinning up. Secondly the fire rate is way too high. Unlike the OBRA family of combat helicopters used by the Marines. Which is armed with a three barrel rotary canon. An Apache is armed with a single barrel canon. And it doesn’t fire that quickly quickly.
In a way I get where your thoughts of the video game things come from. Because well, let’s face it. This happens a lot. You have people that play certain video games, long enough and then all of a sudden they think they are experts in these kinds of things. You have someone who plays a game like war or world of tanks and all of a sudden they are an expert and armored warfare. but you also need to take consideration the fact that they are out there that have either real world exposure to the thing in question or they’ve done research.
@@nicolasmun13 even if it is a movie and normally you would say that suspension of disbelief could be taken. There are certain aspects that at least in my opinion don’t need to be so blatantly incorrect. Seriously. You can find soundbites of actual Apache helicopters flying, and firing their guns. and they both sound nothing like this.
For the most part, I am completely willing to overlook the sound of the rotors. But the guns noise is a completely different story. Firstly, not only is it the sound but it’s also the rate of fire. The rate of fire gives it the impression that the Apache is armed with something similar to a Cobra attack helicopter. And while the cobra has a triple barrel rotary canon. The Apache on the other hand has only a single barrel canon. And it doesn’t fire that quickly. If a single barrel cannon fired at that high of a rate of fire, the barrel would overheat, relatively quickly.
Going this weekend can’t wait to see it
Dont waste your money. It was all hype
I loved it!
I love predictive programming
The one time they made an aircraft cannon actually go too fast, normally they go way too slow
It's only a movie but; it is predictive programming. We are on the periphery of madness.
Loudest scene in the theater!
One of my favorite movies I've ever seen. I love the mix of action and suspension.
this would be a great plot for a video game
Modern Warfare actually do something like this.
Was that a laser being fired by the helicopter?
It's basically a few thousand Roman candles per minute. Mostly the incendiary rounds yourre hearing.
Watching this with my mom and step dad, my step father looked at this scene, scoffing and rolling his eyes and he said:
"These mf's even got the apache helicopter wrong."
This film is masterpiece
This is what Tom'Clancy The Division look like
Western forces of Texas and California pahaha 😂😂
with all that talk about Texas 'seceding from the union' when any time they don't get what they want from Washington/Capital Hill, so how long have they been saying that?. Also not to long ago, 30+ percent of California voted to break the state in two, that's NorCal and SoCal. Point being ..... be careful what you wish for.
Without ever saying WHY there’s a war, it accurately depicts what one might feel and look like: every random buffoon has a semiautomatic-turned-automatic, and a grudge.
21st century Apocalypse Now. Very thorough provoking movie.
Lmao no
The choppers won’t survive long in urban warfare..unless of course no one in US army has the portable air defence system
Whats the other countries like those in NATO or the adversaries of the US during this civil war?
Well the rebelling states had control of most of the nuclear weapons
@@pavehawk10 that make sense but still surely they would send some support right?
@@st-6837To the loyalist, yes, maybe they did, in the movie we see the last days of the war so pretty much that support (got crushed if they send soldiers) or (wasnt enough)
Captain Nascimento was enough the war on Rio so he decided to join the civil war
I wonder if this is a prediction, based on what we see on the news
Nah, they had multiple chances and didn't do shit
Sure hope so!
Marvel fans gonna be mad confused by the title
If that civil war happened again like in the movie, i can't imagine how china, russia and iran would take the advantage of this chaos like trying to "help" One side of the war
They would take advantage to topple, puppet governments that operate on the frontiers of the US empire. For Russia it is the European Union, for China it is Taiwan and Australia and for Iran, the Gulf states and the jwesh nation.
China would take Taiwan, Russia would keep fighting Ukraine while Iran would step on Israel.
What a scene... the apache like a monster hunting prey
Now i want to play a new ,,The Devision,,
When you change plot structure, the point of the story and even the genre and flip it on its head in the middle of the movie, it’s incredibly difficult to pull off. Parasite 2019. That movie won the Oscar. Bong Joon Ho succeeded in this risky maneuver. Alex Garland fell short.
In what world would texas and California be on the same side.
The trailer is the entire film lol😅 🎬
Excalty 🤣😂
Chain guns don't shoot like rotary guns, you can notice that it looks like the 30mm M230 autocannon which is a chain gun and it shoots at 600 RPM a rotary can do it at 1000, tbh a rotary gun would be more effective on the Apache it could destroy enemy helicopters faster.
It was meant to chew through armor like the T-72 tank
@@Voucher765 t-72 armor? m230 is not gau-8, kid
"Erm, actually, Apaches don't sound like that, so inaccurate, can't stand it!"
Just enjoy the damn movie, it was an epic scene that you're ruining with your precious preferences.
terminator ahh chain gun 😂😂
If where do you see yourself in the next 10 years was a movie.😂
I still enjoyed the movie even with the short comings. Will buy the DVD when it comes out.
Thanks sleepy brandon
Nah It was Sleepy Stinky Trump!
This movie is disturbing and great.
A prediction of the future of the USA.
🥱
No… not at all lmfao
@@BlackHawk2901 is the Capital building still standing?, I haven't seen it yet. No one would ever .........
@@al28854 what crack have you been smoking and where can I get some? 🤣😂
Modern kaiserreich I can't wait to watch it
Even though the combat isn’t accurate. It’s damn good tv
This movie looks dope af
Best movie this year
That would be me.I'd be smiling.That would be quite in the rush
Sweet Jesus why is that Apache using a Minigun?
Looks like they forgot to switch the apache model with the Huey cobra
Obviously choices were made to make things more visible for the viewer. But would DC not enforce a blackout if it was being invaded?
0:30 isn’t this the same highway from the walking dead?
Apache changed 30 mm cannon to a minigun? XD
These clips pretty much show the ending of the movie lmao
The tittle of the movie es INCORRECT. It's OK for publicitary intentions, bur not represent the "narrative motivation". Should be something like: "the brutalty of war journalist work", because thatis the center of the movie. The Civil war is only the "stage", but the same effect could be achieved in terrosits attack i.e.
I think all of us agree, fighting on American soil is sad, except for D.C….
What if Godzilla took a side during the Civil war?
Depends on what the sides are doing. If one side is disrupting the balance of earth and creating something like Mechagodzilla, then Godzilla would be with the opposing side
What if it was Shin Godzilla? 😂
imagine Emilia Clarke AS A SOLDIER IN THIS
A24 is on top of the game rn everything they drop is fire
Also Normal Day In USA
They hyped up this movie. It was just ok
Trailers can do that to some people. Kind of goes to show that if one keeps there expectations low, they won’t be disappointed
@@benjackson5411 So true
@@lgnrome and also, watching a movie at home has one other advantage over a theater: at home, you can rewind and fast forward and get to the good parts you like the most.
just like a Taylor Swift concert movie trailor.
They could have at least made the apaches chain gun sound right and the audio of the helicopter is a black hawk lol