XR600R - Size Matters. Testing the Beast.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- I've fixed up the XR600R to the point that it's acceptable to ride, practice, and race on. In this video I went over some of the things I've done so far, and did some shredding to test out how it feels as-is.
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I had that very bike back in the day. I ran Progressive 60/40 (?) springs in the front. A Progressive 600/700 spring out back. I cut the backfire screen out of the airbox and drilled it. I had a White Brothers reverse megaphone slip on with Supertrapp discs on the back. I also set the sag at 100mm (pretty sure that was the measurement) to get rid of the headshake when I chopped the throttle, and I went up one on the pilot jet. It ran awesome. It lost a little low end with the slip on, but gained top end.
@@makeityourself1
Nice dude.
That same 600....I also had a "Roost Boost" on it....something you are likely never to find today. I put it on the same time I did the pilot jet....so I have NO idea if the RB made a difference or the jet did. Likely the jet...I'm sure the RB was pretty much a gimmick...but I had a cool sticker on my fender. I would guess the RB was like a kid with new shoes,"Hell yeah I can run faster!!"
I had this exact same bike for a few years! It was a great bike funny I did most of the work your doing wish I could post pictures of it
Drum brakes are notorious for locking, especially when wheel cylinders leak brake fluid. This was a real hazard, into the sixties, before disk were standard on the front. Should the shoes get contaminated, replacement is the only real option.
Make an effort to refrain from too many personal pronouns, a habit of YOUth.
This guy needs more recognition. Whipping a old big bike around better than a lot of guys on modern 450’s!
Man I agree! Not sure if people realize how heavy and clunky those bikes ride
Do u know slow bikes - fast guy?
@@DH-xt4kw fast guys slow bikes!
@@Jboost412 She's not clunky......she's just big boned!
Yes he def. knows how to ride well.plenty respect for "young un"
I like how you replaced a sketchy street tire with a sketchy dirt tire instead
Your such a jack ass 😎
@@TankToChest no you're
Dirt is better to ride on. But some people got preferences just because he likes street riding doesn't mean you have to call him a jack ass
my xr6 has that same.sketchy rear street tire but i have a set of kendas ready to throw on
My dad took the lights off my 600r because he didn't want me riding it on the streets.
One day I'll put some on.
Some apocalyptic cage headlight maybe.
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Thanks for being different from every other dirt bike channel on TH-cam, you continue to inspire people like me and prove that you you can still have a ton of fun on a super small budget!
It's always been that way, but the world is constantly growing evermore obsessed with having "the latest greatest" thing/technology and consumerism. Most bikes these days are way more capable than any rider ever will be, so an XR600R, DRZ400, DR650 and the like with a few appropriate mods/upgrades will be more than enough bike for the average joe motocross wanna be. Most important think is just go ride what you have and enjoy it.
And you seem to ride it very fast !! (so faster than me in case... ;-)) I just want to add that the XR is needing oil cooler to avoid overheating because the RFVC is heating very fast, and that's all folks !!
@UChcYXpbPNzL4OqhqgiXn75A Not wrong, for sure ! Yeah I'm still very far from every fast riders, but when I rode mine during all day under a really hot sun on sandy tracks, my XR seemed to start overheating. My friend with a Suzie Djebel (had a genuine oilcooler) wasn't worry about the high temperature. You can detect a start of overheat easily when your thumper becomes too difficult in kickstarting. XRs are really amazing machines, mostly about suspensions and brakes cause their lihgt, even I never mind about electric start, I'll add an oilcooler on my next.
Agreed. Really dig his style and philosophy on bikes and riding. It's refreshing and feels more familiar to me as a hobbyist than all these guys trying to be knockoff transworld MX gear and bike reviewers. Cheers!
this bike is definitely not affordable😭
"Literally laying there" is the best way to build anything
With the older iron sometimes it's the only way as well. Nice to have some random junk lying around.
Been riding XR 600's since they were made, best all around bike ever and a good race bike when set up right. Grew up in Hesperia and spent every day after school at Al Baker's XR's only back in the early 80's. Over 50 now and still love the big bike. Glad to see a youngster take an interest in this machine. Down shift to throw the rear end around!
Finally, a normal person who just makes it work without pretense and bs.
Ive been riding for 20 years and I’ve watched a lot of your videos. Your a super good rider bro.
You’re joking right?
@@hmobb7838 why would he be joking
You look pretty good on that big bike I have 96 xr400 it rides strong too.
@@hmobb7838 You’re trolling, right?
I've owned and ridden several dirt bikes and the XR600R is the only one that's managed to stick around for close to 10 years!
I like your approach. Rode the 600R for years and the stock suspension and stock motor work well for most people and most riding a lot of the time. Money spent on tires and general upkeep are the bucks you need to commit. After market parts to lighten it up wont lighten it that much. If you are a good rider you can keep up with just about anyone else in your league on a stock 600. I did find that heavier fork springs were necessary even though I weigh in at 175.
This dude deserves way more recognition than what he has. I love this channel. Keep it up man.
I don’t think I’ve ever checked TH-cam so much for an update on if you made more Xr600r videos. I love your videos man
I still ride these old bikes since I am from that time frame, excellent bikes for the day.
You are the 1st real rider i have seen in a while
I had a 96 back in the day when I wanted to be like Scott Summers and I loved it!
Asked Scott once "whats your secret?", he said when in doubt to squeeze the tank with your legs. I remember him coming up on me on a trail, sounded like a helicopter with the Yoshimura (I recollect) pipe. Great rider and kind soul.
@@scottcrowley2061 man that's awesome! Yep he lapped me in Battleground Alabama at a hate scrambles and it was a site I'll never forget 💪👍💪
Now that everything is all fancy and good looking, let’s watch you destroy the whole thing. But for real though I’m actually really excited to see you tame this beast and fight the 450s.
I like how you ride any type of bike aggressive like it's a race bike, it shows that you know what you're doing on a bike 🤙👍
Ive rode a 84' 250R for over thirty years up here in pacific northwest. It's amazing how fast you can go, sitting down, through tight, slimy woods on an old XR.
Still the cabin bike we let all our friends thrash. Best $105 bike, ever. Fresh oil, vslve adj and air filter once a year and it just won't die.
You'll give me pressure to reactivate my '86 XR 600. Not moved since 1989. I'll walk in my cave to check my new project.
Greatings from Europe.
Hmmmm .. my ‘96 XR 600 has been taking a nap under some heavy tarps for about 2 years. It is riding season here in So. Commiefornia , it’s plated for street use but I let the registration lapse for almost 4 years. I’m sure those nice folks at the DMV will understand, I get gut punched for $550.00 a year for my Tacoma already.
New to riding dirt bikes aggressively, I’ve always trail ridden and I’m amazed at how you guys handle these things on lose dirt and gravel, you guys are awesome
The gentle elephant. Those bikes are tough
Updating the brakes to disc oh, and running good tires is a good thing to do to live long. I'm 60. And I still rip on my xr600 just got the motor rebuilt now it really hauls ass
😂 i was out on my 86 XL 600 chasing some kids around an when i stopped an took my helmet off they said" man... Yur rippin on that thing! Purty fast for a old guy"😂 didnt have the heart to tell them i race a KX500 in the desert. Iam 59
@@mikepreciado7807 I've got a property out by Pahrump on the California border tecopa road. Let me know if you ever want to come out and ride it's like 20 minutes to Dumont on the back roads. Have a good one bro
Love my XR650L. I know you didn't not enjoy your experience with the L. But I basically turned my L into an R, sorta. Oil cooler, USD forks/front end, removed all unnecessary parts (probably 20 lbs or so), plus it has the magic e button. It's great, heavy, but great. Enjoy your xr and good luck.
I bought a 1986 XR 600R in 1996, it was bored out, rejetted and had a Supertrap exhaust, that bike was such a blast! Stock gearing was 14/48 but I changed the front sprocket to a 15, that bike was extremely fast! Great video, it sure brought back some great memories! Thanks for sharing!
The old XR is still a competent bike out in the desert. Too many people think they need the latest and greatest stuff to ride but this Honda will get it done just fine!
I have a 98, much improved suspension over the stuff available in 1986, i have a 1985 cr500 that had all these issues so I just turned it into a hill climb bike where precision just is not critical. Kenda tires all around is a good combination for these heavy bikes, served me well.
I always have a special place in my ❤ for this bike and the (don't laugh), DR650. Great to see you ripping on a big enduro.
Love watching the old school plush off road suspension. I used to love my old XRs I think I owned about 8 of them over the years.
I'm lucky, I guess, that I got to experience the air cooled XR's when they were all "state-of-the-art", so to speak. These are the bikes that made it all happen. I miss the reliability but for sure I don't miss kicking my guts out trying to hot start one of these stubborn beasts when they get temperamental on a hot day in the desert. The XR600R is a venerable sled even still toady in the right hands! And holy crap they can be fun to ride! Thank you for posting this video and enjoy the hell out of the XR!
Amazingly easy to start. Get it past TDC and use toes for leverage.Don't touch throttle.If stator gets weak, it will not want to start, if at all. Try to wipe crap off the stator/flywheel, button it back up and try again.
As an old-school thumperite myself ( rotate between a Gen 1 KLR and a DR 650) I Love your perspective! Just adapt, learn , and ride the beast rather than modify the crap out of it... So simple... like the thumper it is!
When my bikes hard to start and I need to stop and adjust things all the time and the forks suck and parts are odd ball sizes and hard to find. - "Its just part of the fun of owning one of these older bikes" - " It has a vintage feel to the way it handles"
Really enjoyed that video. Massively refreshing to see someone learning to ride the older bike as it is and not just change everything to match a new bike.
Having fun on a bike that doesn't cost 15 grand? KTM: "Wait, that's illegal"
I like your style, fixing and cleaning old stuff instead of spending thousands to have the latest and greatest, really shows that skill is more important than money
Thanks. Glad you enjoy it!
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Just subscribed ! Rode my 93xr 600 for 6 year's, its a beast but a blast , throwing that thing around will make you strong !
I rode an XR600 a few years before I bought my new 2004 Kawasaki KLR650. I swear that Honda was a beast and would blow away that Kaw. Wheelies in any gear and damn near any speed. It was a monster.
A friend of mine used to have an XR600R back in the early 00's and yeah, it was a beast. Huge torque and lots of power and it pulled HARD all the way to top speed. Seems like it would do close to 100mph top speed, with stock gearing.
I have a 1990 xr600r first bike I've ever had and I absolutely love it I'm not no small guy I'm 6 ft 4 240 lb guy and I can barely keep the front tire down. Xr600 I'm a fan for life.
I can't tell you how many times I've watched the first 1:18. It's like a Rocky training montage! "Gonna fly now!"
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I'll see myself out.
I love how stoked you are bro!
I also appreciate your willingness to adapt rather than just simply blame the bike. As a newer rider it is very refreshing and inspiring to hear I just need to keep learning rather than spend more money “because the bike is the problem”
Rad video dude 🤙🏻
Awesome, glad you are motivated by it!
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Excellent video. I've owned big XRs almost continuously since the mid eighties, and I'm so set in my ways I'm not likely to ever stop. It's like riding around on your favourite couch. I've never even given a passing thought to setup, other than the very basics. I just adapt, as you so wisely stated.
The xr-600 seat WAS a couch, lol.
Nice video I love it.
I use my XR 600 last 17 years. This motobike ist just brilliant.
I tune it little bit up with custom stainless steel exhaust system, custom camshaft and forged pistons, tuned Carburetor. Results in about 56 HP on Dyno.
10:25 About Valves - set outtake valves up to 0,15 not like Honda says 0,12. ☝️
Really like your approach to this whole thing. Rear drum brake, no worries about bending a rotor. Four stroke air cooled, rock solid. Most bikes are better than the rider. I know my CRF 230f is better than I.
Owned many dirt bikes thru the years, KTM, Maico, Yamaha, Honda CR to name a few. Raced desert starting in 1978 to 1994 last class was senior veteran. My last and best racing bike was the 1992 xr600r, several overalls and many first in class. Who ever designed this package hit the mark.
My Dad had an 88' XR 600r. I probably had more seat time on it than on my own bike at the time. Mainly cuz it was the only bike that could keep pace with his CR500 in open desert. 30yrs & about a dozen bikes of various sizes later it's still in my top 3 based on the fun factor. True story, I rode up what I thought was a trail to the top of a 25ft drop off in 2nd gear, well they didn't stop on a dime even going uphill so I bailed but the bike was sent over. In a panic I slide down the way I came up to get to the bike & assess the damage. The bars were buried so deep on the left side I thought they broke in half but I knew they weren't cuz the sand was holding clutch lever in & the beast was still idling!! Literally went off a cliff & was idling at the bottom. Bars were tweaked but that was the extent of the damage. The best advice I was told on how to ride those sleds was "point & shoot".
This was my first and last dirt bike. It was fantastic, reliable, and unstoppable. I wouldn’t recommend it for beginners, even though I was. It’s heavy, but will climb anything. Hard to pick up, but I jumped it many times. I still think about that bike all the time. Cool video, looking forward to watching more content.
Great video mate. I've had a long term love affair with the Honda XR's since my first XR75. The 600 is a great bike that is reliable and surprisingly fast. Sure it won't feel as light as a modern 450 but once you figure out how to "flow" the bike, they work very well. The big beast needs a totally different technique compared to a modern 450. You'll love it once you get the hang of it. Seeing the condition of the oil that came out of the forks I'd be at least getting the rear shock serviced and maybe a new spring. It has probably never been apart! Take a good look at the linkages while you have the shock out as well. Re-build kits for the rear linkages are available and reasonably affordable. I'm glad to see a young man giving the dinosaur a chance and keeping it alive. Fresh oil, Fresh oil filter and a clean air filter after every race will keep the XR going forever!. Oh, heavy duty clutch springs are a good mod as well as making sure the clutch basket isn't worn and full of grooves. They are hard on clutches if they get abused. Lastly, enjoy the simplicity of the XR. Once you have it sorted you'll have little to do other than wait for the next ride! Cheers. I have subbed to keep an eye on your progress with the old girl.
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I learned to keep mine a gear higher than I expected, steer with the throttle and correct with the bars with surprisingly better results than expected, as I'm sure you know the drama comes when backing off!
In my recollection, is there not a 1/4 inch long or so oil pipe when taking off the clutch case?
The part i like is the fact that you are NOT sponsored. It would ruin you and your channel. With that said i like most who will watch have bins and bins of parts you can have free of charge to help this awesome channel. Keep up the good work young man as you are a rare one.
I loved my xr600. I was major bummed when honda racing dropped the xr for baja and went to the 450s. Bob Bell totally changed my xr into a manageable snarling beast. The single most noticeable engine mod is to bolt in a HRC cam...totally changes the xr.
Rode an '86 XR600 for several years on trails in northern Michigan and hare scrambles in Illinois. I put a K&N on it, Super Trap, cut the bars down 1" on each side, added Bark Busters and kicked all my buddies butts!
None of us were any good but that bike WAS A BLAST!
Til the porcupine stops in the middle of the trail, lol.
Thank you for changing that front fender!
This dude gets it! It's the rider not the bike!
Great video! This guy is just so nice to watch and listen to. Thank you!
Great video!! I myself have had an amazing experience on an 95 XR600 I bought from a good friend and completely restored it except for the engine . Loved it to death! Mine had the rear disc so I feel your pain!! Have fun on it your young with a good right leg to kick it!! Ride on!!!
Glad to hear that people are keeping these old bikes alive.
the 1986 xr600 outgoing model has fully adjustable suspension. 43 mm air-adjustable leading-axle Showa cartridge fork with eight-position compression damping adjustability for the front and Pro-Link single Showa shock with spring preload, 20-position compression, and 20-position rebound damping adjustability. identical to the present day 2021 xr650L, if memory serves right.
What you where describing about the front tire, I’m not trying to tell you what I think you should do but simply share my experience, I own a Ktm 300 and the front end can get get knify, what I found that really helps this outside of a steering damper was going to a 110 on the front, golden tyre specifically, but regardless the added width as a byproduct also smoothed out the tracking and washout
I owned a 94 XR600R I loved that bike! I miss it so much! I should not have gotten rid of it when I injured my left knee.
7:48 onwards. That is exactly why I like you and your channel man, you do everyday mods and improvements with tight budgets an I can relate to that, and god forbid... even learn stuff! The sponsor-fest channels are a dime a dozen but real stuff like this is hard to come by.
You've been a huge motivation for me to build my bike just the way I want to and not feel bad, that I'm using sourced- and bin parts.
kKep doing what you're doing man, you rock!
Got one of these old bikes but have disc brakes on it. Im 300 lbs so a stiff suspension is a must.
Yes the new bikes are superior in handling but what really burns me about new cycles is the initial price, high and frequent maintence costs, and the small oil capacities. I wish there was a 600-700cc bike with modern design but simple components and larger oil capacity and better reliablity. Im just an old guy who rides trails and old tracks recreationally and dont need to race so being reliable trumps ultra peeformance any day of the week.
I love my xr600r. Appreciate the content!
650R was the best pal to pair with KLR or DR6. My trip to Thai was the best time in my life to ever whip that one.
Didn't hear about 600r before, so kudos for your review!
Refreshing to hear someone who’s making it work for them. You’re on the right track. Get it!
Sick dude! I can’t believe how you are flying on wheelies past those Joshua trees - they are super sharp!
I love your spirit and patience with an old bike.😎
I raced a 97 XR600 in NETRA Enduros’ and Hare Scrambles (New England Trail Rider) it was fantastic in the woods, with just a blip of the throttle to clear off camber roots.. since I am 6 foot 2 It wasn’t much of a problem at all to throw the 285 dry weight bike around in the woods
Growing up, if you could start xr600.... you could ride it, epic bike
I run Odi lockons on all my bikes. You get a fresh throttle tube every grip change too keeps it fresh.
This looks like so much fun. In the 1990’s I had an XR 500 it was so much fun
You man handle that big heavy thumper! You definitely can ride bro!
I used to be very competitive in gncc amateur 4stroke class about 25 years ago.. Did it on an xr 600.
Bought a 650l last spring. I don't remeber them being sooo heavy. Sure I weigh 70 lbs more and I am old but danm! Electric start is way nice!
Btw idk if you said it but that top triple is off an xr650l I believe.. Never seen an xr 600 with a full speddo.
A very cheap mod is the fork brace and it makes the handling much more precise. It bolts on the the forks right above the tire to prevent twisting. Think I picked on up for $80. I was going to do a front end swap but after the brace it was good enough.
Man you can ride very well. You're just being humble and that's a good thing! Love the video and the old air cooled four stroke 😀
Best channel on youtube. Keep rocking, dude. Great content. You deserve to hit 100k subs and more.
I had the XR600 with the drum brake and always wanted one with the disc. The drum takes some getting used to for sure.
That bike is alive!!! 👍🏼You are so right! it’s funny how some people get so technical🤦🏻♂️... i’m surprised they haven’t measured The airs molecules due to the centrifugal force caused by the Palladium on the 10th power divided by 1.5 to ask Marty how much further he can travel through the air.🤷🏻♂️😂✌🏼
This is the perfect platform to build a “Mad Max” bike. Flat black everything. Don’t kid yourself, your rational for parts selection is what most normal people do. The “use what you have” approach is the best if your just playing.
I've got a 2000 xr650R. Love it, I've got rear disc brakes which definitely helps however I don't use it much. In order to get the back end around I just give it gas. I live and ride in the Canadian Rockies.
I have the last production year of the XR600r. near perfect condition. But make no mistake,. It is no easy bike to race. Better know your limitations. This guy rides it pretty good
This is true. I got my crap pushed in by the bike when I tried to race it lol
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The XR600R was my choice from 89-2001. I love my 525EXC but every time I ride a 600R it feels like an old pair of tennis shoes.
The extra hundred pounds makes me feel like I wrestled a bear but that flat torque curve and slow handling remind me of being young and not worrying about radiators.
Yes, a fresh trashmaster is a great 17in tire for a 600R.
awesome. love your approach of keeping it utility oriented... i think we all get too swept away with doing every last mod instead of just enjoying the machine. i know i do. you're sick on that thing!
Can you imagine how good the XR 250 / 400 / 650 would be with the suspensions and frames of today Reliability second to none
They cant rebuild the 650 because its grandfathered in to all the transportation, and epa rules, so if they made a new model it wouldnt be able to meet the modern requirements.
As usual, you did a great job with fixing up your XR600R as well as your riding.
Hopefully you got a great deal on the bike as it's clear that the previous owner(s) never heard of the word 'maintenance'.
I raced a 92' xr600r raced in desert racing, gran-prix's. I cut 1 inch off each side from bars, changed front sprocket from 13 to 14 and stock 48 rear. with bark busters' w/guards for cactus. I found the xr to track better thru rocky rutted terrain.
Ohhhhhhh. It was a nice time. Cintula in Berlin was a Dealer for XR 600 R from the USA. Heartbroken Bike. I love it.
Had issues with brake shoes delaminating my 84 xr500. My hub seemed to be well worn. A lot less choices with 17 inch tires but you can still find some decent ones. You can do this.
Keep the old bikes rollin . Way to go and the self education you’re getting is amazing .
Your hand guards are on wrong sides, if you flip them they have a flap to protect your master cylinder, but right now that flap is pointing down
Good spot!
I did a yz250 fork conversion on a 2011 klr after an incident. It had Ricor valves and Progressive springs and new oil in the factory sticks.
The conversion gives little more clearance, travel and adjustment but less turning radius.
For the time and money to convert the forks, it was cheaper and easier to just replace the guts of the stock forks. Really no difference for my riding. It looks cool. And with the heavier spring wrapping the factory rear shock, this pig can fly😆 and land.
I like the description of the front tire giving a crap. Haha! It works though! I get it
Schweet! Busy rebuilding an XL/XR hybrid: XL600R engine in an XR500R frame with (I think) XR600R front and rear goodies... turning out to be an interesting project. Thanks for sharing.
I owned the 600rf for 10yrs from new...great machine.Heaps of low end grunt!
Nice bike and nice 4Runner currently rockin’ a 83’ xl200r with 4000miles and a 97’ 4Runner with 347xxx miles
I had those handguards...they are ok for bush protection but not for falling...they bend realy bad every fall and needed to strech them after amlost every ride otherwise levers got stuck so they create more problems than if I took them out... Brought only the bars from Moose racing for cheap (~25$), install one piece brackets (without the joint) for them and they are really night and day difference.
The threading bolts for the Bushwacker are ideal for all off-road bikes no more of those Molly's that ago in the end of the handlebars get the threading kit that cost 10 to 13 bucks never have to worry about them rusting and falling off on the trail.
Dude! I'm glad to hear how you go about picking some of your parts and gear. I've always had the mindset of riding around some of the negative things bike ABC has. I think it's made me a more capable rider. And it's definitely more satisfying when you're faster than other guys with all the expensive performance princess bikes!
Back years ago I use to run pirelli scorpion rally on the front for that reason, your shocks need some air pressure put in to help with damperning their not like upside down forks how you have to get the air out, from memory you stand up the bike and pump air in until it raise up a inch with a push bike pump just keep each side the same and just run the oil at the Right level I think it was 130mm, but look up the spec, I always ran castrol 4t and never had a clutch problem, just don't let it get past dark brown. but she's really looking good 👍👍 hope this helps
Great video- this dude looks like a pretty legit rider 👍🏼
Lol, right on brother just ride and have fun. You got the attitude far it. Great job brother rubber side down. peace
That 1/8 turn throttle was probably the best mod possible!
I love that bike. Had one when I was a young fellow and didn't appreciate it. Now I ride a xr400r and love it but I need the 600 again.