Car and Caravan lose control after overtaking Truck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ต.ค. 2016
- dashcamownersaus.com.au/produc... - M1 Monday 17th. How not, to overtake a B double when towing a caravan. Old mate was a bit shaken but ok"
Thanks to Paul - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Just because you can go faster, probably doesn't mean you should. Especially if you're towing something
Yep! The 'trick' is always to have some acceleration in reserve (irresp' of the towing vehicle's performance capabilities) in order that 'snaking' i nduced by overrun can be 'tensioned back out again' by briefly 'gassing it'.
Not from speed but from erratic turning inputs and panic braking, worst two things to do.
482lost any trailer with brakes (ie over 750kg) should require a special licence to tow. How can anyone justify driving a Toyota Yaris or similar small car, then being able to jump in a V8 Landcruiser with a 3.5 ton caravan on the same licence, with no additional training?
Did they not have the sway bars on? Just asking.
"Yeah nah, all good mate! We're just going to camp out here for a couple of days"
😂🤣
Good one, mate! 🤣🤣🤣👍🏼
Historical rare footage of the first ever Caravan caught on film going faster than 80km/h.
Sideways.
SEE YAI AYE that's why they don't go above 80 lol
See what happens!
The flux capacitor on caravans doesn't activate until 88 KPH... or was that MPH? Hell... this guys' going 'Back(wards!) to the Future" either way.
MPH. 88MPH
I've done this(up to the 16 seconds in the video and then drove out of it), very humbling experience. Wife was squeezing my leg hard. Kids in back seat 'Dad! What are you doing?'. I just lifted the pedal a little a kept it straight, feathering the throttle while the speed came down. Scariest thing I ever did and I felt like a real asshole for putting family and others in danger. Incorrect loading(due to 'go fever' to beat holiday traffic), and overtaking a boat on a trailer, totally preventable. Been towing our caravan for years, no problems. Got complacent. Loading up better, and excercising patience/respect I'm pretty sure it won't occur again. Anyone who says speed out of the sway hasn't been in the situation..
The wife squeezing you leg is one thing but the kids questioning, now that's a whole other issue 😆 glad you all made it 👍
Next time just hit the brakes.when the speeds comes down, the swing goes down.
@@Gias1 half right. Applying car brakes won't work as what causes the sway is the van going faster than the car. You need to maintain vehicle speed and manually press electric brake button to slow only the van down
@@gavinclark3266 I've read that you can accelerate out of it but I wouldn't have the balls to try it.
@@neilrobertson811 you're right, floor it. same goes for when a steer tire blows, floor it.
Well at least he was good enough to indicate which side of the road he was going to end up
DAMMIT !!!
Call your shots; Side pocket.
Right side turn indicator = ON - check ... LMAO
This spot will do, save paying the site charges.
As a driver who pulls a caravan all the time due to living travelling around I find on most motor ways of 110kms I travel at 90kms max I get passed by many caravans like I'm standing still. I might piss some people off in a hurry but I want to live. Most truck drivers understand and I make it easy for them to pass me and I try to contact them to help them pass safely. On country roads I stay around 80kms. You can feel the air moving the van when being passed by trucks so at high speed you can lose control. Just slow down a bit and you should arrive safely. You will get to enjoy your trip.
Ned fed up
Yes, air speed/pressure differentials as a large vehicle is passed, can be enough to push the towing rig over the edge of stability.
Ned- I bet you can count on one hand the number of accidents with a caravan- ZERO! I am just getting my training wheels but plan on driving like a Grandpa so I can make it in one piece!
Sway bars would have stopped this before it happened. Get the correct equipment if you are going to tow. Also letting go of the gas and pulling your trailer brakes would have gotten him out of the wag.
As a truck operator I get annoyed by the slow speed on single lane highways 70-90 only to have the vans speed up 100+ on the dual lanes then slow down again on the single lanes. If you could delay accelerating to allow the build up of trucks behind to pass that would be considerate. We are limited to 100 kph and when stuck behind the 'snails' it's not so much lost time but extra fuel being burned carrying 30+ tonnes. I travel Mackay to Canberra and 1 after the other mostly the same. Let us pass please.
@@MartintheTinman ...I have never towed anything as large as a caravan but intuition tells me that if the van begins "fish tailing" then I should slow down. This guy just seems to accelerate.
imagine the cups and saucers cabinet.
They now have a 123 piece set.
Lol
@@gavinwalker8670 lmao!
And his wife is still saying - I told you not to overtake
It was his wife's nagging that made him want to get home quicker. He wanted away from her no matter what the cost might be.
@@catfan5756 well in your desciption of the so -called events he got to spend more quality time! ha ha
She's thinking of the mess inside when they open the door
Thanks for the trucker for stopping to check on them. God bless u my friend
Keep your sick jihadist crap to yourself.
@@Rooster1Cogburn Generally "God bless" is a christian phrase.
@@Rooster1CogburnJohn Wayne is dead.
@Rodney Sexual ar u saying he stopped pointed and laughed
@Rodney Sexual why get out , the car is upright and we know that it stinks like shit , why even stop ?
Good to see that little extra speed got you there on time.
“a man’s got to know his limitations!”
Dirty Harry
We know who said it...
I'm pretty sure that was Mr Rogers.
@@gurnblanstein9816 - You mean YOU know who said it. Do you speak for the whole world?
Only drivers who have never gone for a ride like this one drive like that. Once you’ve had a trailer take over, you’ve been cured.
Yes only had it happen to me once, many years ago when I was young. I was lucky I did not touch the brakes but just changed down the gears to slow down with no damage to the towing car, trailer or car on the trailer. I still ended up on the wrong side of the road though facing the direction I had come from!
Yes your right . I've not crashed but got a wiggle on transporting a car , your heart sinks lol .
Hell yeah, when i was about twenty in my HZ holden i towed a car trailer over the Gateway bridge with a HQ wagon on it, thouht i was shit hot passing people going up the bridge (V8)
Got real scary on the big sweeping left hand turn at the bottom when the trailer started to push me, but i learn't when i shit my pants 😃😄😄
Lol, instead of slowing down, simply letting of the gas and not applying the brakes it would have corrected itself they keep driving!
it looks like he gunned it to try to straighten it out
This happened to me yesterday when I was going 50mph. I didn't hit brake, just let off gas but this sway swing didn't stop. It was terrifying but it was not that bad. I was able to slow down and pull over. Idk why people crash with that
Always use stabilizer bars on your hitch, especially if you have a single axle trailer
This looks more like weight distribution was not right
@@kevviekevvie8440 Could be a factor, but trucks throw out a pretty big bow-wave of air, which most people don't really think about. When it hits the side of the camper, it pushes it away, then as you pass the bow wave you enter an area of lower pressure, which sucks the camper back in that direction. At a reasonable speed for the size of the camper and tow vehicle, it's not a problem, but if you are going too fast and with a larger tow-to-trailer difference, you can end up in trouble like this. Campers have a big cross-section and they are fairly light for their profile - the wind affects them more than most trailers. I've had trailer minor sway start from a heavy cross wind caused by coming over a bridge past a hill into an open space and it's had nothing to do with loading. I know the exact weight of my trailer, truck and what's on each axle and I keep it all within specs. You just have to be ready to react to it and slow down.
@@tarkjones as I drive a truck I am well aware of bow-wave wind I also tow a caravan. A well loaded and weight distributed van will straighten after the initial blast.
@@tarkjones you so good at explaining
Imagine someone sleeping in the back LMAO
😂
Lmaoo fr they waking up at the juice wrld concert
Ermagerd 😳 that would be a rude awakening!
I’ve always pictured the rest of the family playing cards at the table in the van with dad up front driving 😂
The camper is probably loaded heavy in the back, the weight should be closer to the front for more stability.
The hitch was too high up, because not enough weight on it compared to the back of the trailer. Also a trailer brake engaged manually will often return control to whipping trailers.
was it really worth it to save 15 minutes off your journey time
Not even 15 minutes, maybe 3 minutes.
Not a half bad camping spot. Nice parking too :)
I have heard using the trailers brakes only via the controller by hand. That is if your trailer has its own brakes
I was once driving a U.K. military Landrover, towing a trailer, and the trailer started to jacknife. I had heard that you carefully increase the speed to drive through it, and the trailer will settle down. No thanks! My way was to carefully decrease the speed and that did the trick.
Pay attention when the dogs tail is wagging!!! Cheers for sharing. Keep safe and healthy.
When I bought my little NuCamp T@b 320S in USA, the dealer in Washington state added a sway bar for me to help prevent fishtailing. The dealer also said NuCamp requires an electric brake controller. I had a problem at the Jeep dealership though and ended up with U-Haul helping me out with that component. I love my setup and the trailer tows like a dream! Safe travels to all 👍👩🦳 🇺🇲 and keep the rubber side down!
Happy holidays!
Manually activate the trailer brakes and gently accelerate with the tow vehicle. This will pull the trailer back behind you in control. Then slow down, pull over and catch your heart beat!
Trailers have brakes???
@@nicks40 yes
it's never good when the tail wags the dog
Va HOSS perfect..😂
I've seen that movie 'wag the dog '😆
Nope ....you come off second best
What is it about Aussie truckers...? They're so damn nice fellas. I remember one night in the 80s traveling from Melbourne (I can't remember the destination). My idiot friend drove too damn fast on a foggy night and spun the car out of control. Hit a ditch and got stuck there, couldn't get out. It was in the middle of nowhere & completely dark. No cars passed by until minutes later... it was a truck. Driver stopped, got some harnesses out of his truck, got under the car (it's a Holden) to hook it up and pulled it out of the ditch. All that while 3 of us stood there watching him do all theh work (yeah, I feel bad). He didn't want anything from us. He just told us to drive safely and moved on. God bless him.
Uhaul recommended 60/40 weivht distribution balance front to back over wheel axle
th-cam.com/video/6mW_gzdh6to/w-d-xo.html
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actually PHYSICS determines that ratio, as the short video demonstrates.
This is why it's important to keep all the weight you load the caravan up with ahead of the axle. When it's back past the axle, it pendulums and you get accidents like this occurring.
within the constraints of tow ball loading
Since this is in Australia, will the trailer spin in the opposite direction?
That's how the cement stocks build up in my shed, I'm always having to add a bag when I overload my trailer with timber to get the draw bar weighted. Now I just need a concrete project.
Thanks for stopping Peace
He had plenty of opportunity to straighten that thing out if he had any driving ability at all.
The car driver maybe thought he got nudged by the trucker which is why he started accelerating instead of slowing down and straightening more. This is my theory.
That could have also been why it appears they decided to return to the right (→) lane just before completing the manouvere.
@@SSLCLIPS-TV, slowing down exacerbates the problem.
Exelerate out of the whip
That is why I like twin axle trailers, you don't get pushed as easily by the air flow of the truck when overtaking or being over took.
i had this happen while towing a truck on a car trailer. the way they loaded it i was on a downward hill and didnt notice i had no tongue weight. the second i got up to about 70mph it started doing this. i just let off the brake and casually slowed down. was a miracle i didnt lose it.
the truck had no axles on it so i couldnt push it forward and i had a 850mile trip. i had to do 55mph the entire way and had to be carfull not to sway it at all. made for a fun time, probably saved me a few tickets though
Thanks for telling me what to do to get out of a swing like that, if I ever have to tow anything. Just slow down, simple really. Only useful comment here.
Good on the trucker to check the tourists were ok.
Good to see the truck driver start to pull over in case of injury.
Thats Australian truckers for you.
People need to learn how to distribute their load and make sure they have the proper hitch weight. There are other factors too, but once the tail starts wagging the dog, you're in trouble. Slow down to get out of it and quit aggressively oversteering to try to compensate. Then go figure out what your hitch weight and load distribution are, if you still have a caravan.
Correct. That one single thing would have kept this accident from ever happening. Stabilizers and brake systems help but the root cause was too much weight behind the axle...
Damn! That's scary! I'm glad he's not hurt.
He? What about the family? What about the.KIDS❓ And the dog? What a mess ! Whatever the causes, driving slower is the all-purpose solution 🔑
@@carlospiso I agree. I hope no one else was hurt.
And the tail said to the dog “you’re outta here”. Glad they didn’t roll 👍
It makes you wonder what would possess anyone to do that.
Some people think as long as you got power you can do anything.
Even being overtaken by a semi can cause the van to sway.
Sadly people don't see airflow.
The semi is pushing air both sides of the cab just like all vehicles do.
You end up with loads of air and higher pressure between truck and van and lower pressure on the other side of the van and this pushes the van to one side and starts the sway.
It is similar to the air on a wing of a plane, high pressure under the wing and low over equals lift.
In the truck scenario it is exactly the same principle but working in a horizontal plane and not vertical.
Also remember the van is like a pendulum, when it swings back it will swing the other side as seen by here.
Nice of the truck driver to stop.
@Steven de Vroom Legal requirement for what?
Watched a similar video this afternoon: The truck never even slowed.
and the resulting chaos was much worse than this one.
Someone commented " Not my monkeys, not my circus".
It was the USA.
@@patagualianmostly7437 In some states in America, bystanders can be sued for medical expenses by the victim if they try to help. Bonkers, but there you are.
@@MrHarleyoldfart To help a fellow human being in distress. This is Australia, after all, not ... somewhere else.
@@nicks40 You're saying it's a legal requirement to stop and help someone in distress, i don't think so, not even in Australia.
That's what happens when people forget they have a trailer behind them. I've seen it happen here in the US when four wheelers jerk the steering wheel too quickly and this is what happens.
there's a sticker on the car's rear window that says.." If you can read this I've lost my caravan" LOL
Whenever I get a new van, I take it up to 60 k's and try to swerve the car abit to see how the van reacts. Does it go straight instantly when you stop moving the steering wheel. I increase the speed by 10 and try again. If it looks like it gets squerily at 90 then never exceed 90. and get your balance checked. Check your tow ball weight.
I've seen this fishtailing effect on travel trailers here in California. I guess Australians call them Caravans. It must be frightening for the drivers and hard to recover from. I don't see it as often with 5th wheel rigs.
because trucks are engineered and designed to pull stuff not only that we have training.. Caravans are just wacked on and muppets think they can still do 100+Km/hr.... arriving late is better then not arriving at all
Stick at a safe distance behind a road train, but still close enough to enjoy the broken wind they create. It'll save you fuel plus you'll essentially have a 100+Tonne Bullbar... They stick on 100km/hr (maximum tow speed). Makes your trip cheaper and relatively stress free. Plus if you have a two way, have a yarn with him, it's always nice to hear peoples stories and what they're doing...
That's the end of his holiday.
at least there was some adventure
And a story to tell around the next campfire.
Thats all that would be needed. Enough shit flies around at those Happy (Chataeu Cardboard) hours.
What holiday was it? Christmas? Thanksgiving? New Years?
Holiday outside the U.S. is actually a vacation. We U.S.A. citizens use holiday when we get a scheduled day off whereas the rest of the world uses holiday when they get a day off or go on a trip.
errgh what's the bet most of the weight is in the rear of the caravan
100%
Hey..This is a good spot!! Let's camp here.
All caravans should be fitted with “Alko” trailer control system. I have it on my Bailey Senator and it’s amazing.
I have recently passed my linces to tow 7.5t total (incl car weight) I have also traveled long distances with caravan on my car. I find 80 km/h the safe speed in straight roads, but I know my friend likes to push it... He can drive up to 120 km/h with he's car and we have the same pull weight (2.2t).. Short story, he still lives but I would never allow it, if I was inside my friend car.
Most disturbing is how people claims speeding will fix a waging trailer... Stupid people
the poor bugger did everything wrong, the driver tried to compensate for the caravan wandering all over the road by doing the same with the car and then the driver sealed the deal by slowed down using his brakes too hard. If they had just kept going straight and given it a bit of gas if below 100km/h to force the caravan straight or taken their foot of the accelerator and not touched the brake if going 100km/h or higher the driver would have been fine.
Alternatively, jam on the trailer brakes while hitting the accelerator to straighten it out. then gently use normal braking to get back down to a reasonable speed and get back behind the lorry.
MyGun4hire not sure why I'm bothering to reply to such an incredibly well thought out reply, but here goes. Normally, if the trailer actually has brakes (some small trailers don't have brakes at all) then there's a separate trailer brake controller in the cab of the tow vehicle. Even big rigs have a separate brake controller. On the controller, there's a lever or button you can squeeze to apply the trailer brakes independently from the tow vehicle brakes - specifically for situations like this, or any other reason you might need to apply more braking force with the trailer than with the tow vehicle - can be especially useful in slippery conditions such as snow and ice.
Gibson99dotcom Yea......hit trailer brakes too hard and your wagon will be passing ...
There's always one know it all in the comments section.
Intersting isnt it that there is a variety of expert advice here on what the driver should have done? Accelerate, back off, brake, brake hard, engage caravan brake. Good indication of the core problem, that people are driving these things and reacting on the basis of urban myth or what their mates told them.
Rumour has it that stretch of the road is haunted. I counted no less than 7 dents where other drivers hit the guard rails.
At least 3 things probably were the cause a) incorrect loading, too much weight at the rear b) traveling too fast, stick to 90kph or less c) not slowing as soon as things started to go to crap, don't just jump the brakes. Also the van really should have been fitted with stability control which automatically brakes the wheel when it scenes things are wrong. They probably didn't add that option when buying the van.
Craig Best - You're right but there's also driver-induced oscillation where the driver trying to correct makes it worst. Electric trailer brakes with manual override would have been the cheapest prevention. Sometimes the oscillation is only at a set speed. I've had a small oscillation at 60km/h with a car trailer which stopped at 70km/h. Thankfully I paid extra for electric brakes so had no trouble.
Is there any way to determine if a caravan is loaded badly (short of weighing every bit of cargo) or do you just have to eyeball it?
MistrDamige - Measure the height of the front and back of the car before loading and again after. You can measure at any points as long as you measure the same points after loading. When correctly loaded the car height shouldn't change much, front or back. If there is any change in height it's safer for there to be a small rise at the front of the car and the back to sit down slightly. If the back rises then there's an increase in the probability that you'll experience what happened in this video. If the front rises too much then you'll lose the steering when accelerating out of a corner. Determining what is too much depends on each individual vehicle. If you want you can weigh the jockey wheel while it's supporting the caravan and it shouldn't be above 500kg (but the upper limit is sometimes much less for some vehicles). A towball weight of 200-300kg should be a generally safe figure for most vehicles.
***** That's a very comprehensive and useful answer, thank you.
Craig Best yes, also the speed differential between the caravan and the truck played a part - trucks have massive bow waves with its best to ease through - at tat speed it would have been like having a sudden impact on the side of the caravan. You can actually see the sway starts as the axle of the caravan passes the front of the truck. Many caravan towers forget they are much more susceptible to the bow wave of a truck than a car or motorcycle trailer due to their large flat sides
This was deeply pleasing
Man I love this shit. The ultimate lesson on what to never ever do again.
As if. He blamed the lorry
The driver towing the caravan showed true class to fuck up his holiday and all of his dignity just to make us laugh. Legend.
That second HGV driver though...
"Shall I pull over too?"
NAH FUCKIT
lmfao
That was close---he almost lost control!
brown pants time
Hey, he stayed upright.... if you're going to crash, make sure you can get out unaided.
improper weight distribution
Identical accident witnessed by us, we were driving a motorhome, and was over taken by a car and caravan..at speed.!
Well the accident unfurled in an identical fashion, the van taking control of the car..it starts a a minute whip..and turns into a massive snake..its as if its in slow motion..I too was told many years ago as a caravanner to brake hard, to control the whip, no point in trying to steer out of it..since then i have bought a couple of dash cams.,as this truck driver had fitted..
I'll think I will stick to my tent!
Over confidence will get ya every time!!
Damn that’s gotta be an expensive claim, hopefully they’re ok.
If a trailer or caravan start to swing it is a scary experience. You do not even have to be going that fast, just if it is loaded wrong. The stabilizer bars that you can fit to your tow bar are good at preventing this but you should still drive slowly when towing.
If it had electric brakes, which it should, and Using the hand control on the electric brakes to apply the van brakes will help pull it back on line. Just one of the many things you can do , if you listen, and read about, to safely tow a van.
Remember the scene in 'Parenthood' . Steve Martin, Mary Steenburgen ?
good on ya Paul for stopping
People just slow down and you will enjoy your trip and get to where you are going. Towing a caravan can turn to crap for lots of reasons, strong winds, driving to fast, wet weather, people pulling out in front of you etc just slow down and you can reduce these issues. Take care on the road we all share it.
Camping trip cut short ??
Good of him to park it out of the traffic lanes. Nice secluded spot to spend the night.
Just waiting for a mate, thought it was time to stop and brew a coffee.
Wind effect from the truck started that sway.
I thought they made hydraulic stabilizers that attached to the bumper, and to the trailer on both sides of the tongue, to prevent this from happening. That's what the extra holes on the bumper/hitch left and right of the ball are for.
Serves him right. Didn’t even attempt to slow down after losing it. No sympathy here
He is slowing and the van is pushing the car. no van brakes .If he put the power down it would of pulled it strate.
Add air water no brake lights seen on van. Therefore didn’t slow down. It’s common knowledge that you slow down in these situations.
@@deadlyroadsdashcamdiaries1650 using your brakes in a situation like this will jack knife and probably flip the trailer and car. If this ever happens you DO NOT hit the brakes. You need to accelerate to straighten the trailer.
Danny D no you dont. You ease off the gas ⛽️
once that happens the only way to get out of it is to speed up and let the tralor correct itself. but most cars won't have enough power to do that with 2 or 3 tons on the back
RE: 0:13, correct me if I'm wrong, but was not the cause of the 'sway' the way he jerked the wheel a bit to change back instead of smoothly gliding back over?
And how do you try to stop this once it's started? I really don't know. I've never towed anything, always unsure of my skills so never have done it, but would be nice to learn what to do in this situation just in case.
Yeah it looks like he realized he was going over the shoulder line and tried to correct but pulled a little to hard.
The likely cause was a 'bow wave' of air pushed sideways at the front of the truck. Situation is described in detail here: caravanandmotorhomebooks.com/truck-wind-forces-on-caravans/. Basic car driver knowledge test should include a section on towing caravans and other trailers.
Alan Dow That way have triggered it but this is what caused it. th-cam.com/video/6mW_gzdh6to/w-d-xo.html
It's pretty much impossible to correct for this instability due to the rear overhang of the car. This means you can not _directly_ control which way the caravan moves, and the caravan also always wants to rock the car the wrong way, inducing oscillation.
I remember doing 90 with my caravan, got to some steep climbs and my car stayed on 90, all the traffic were going hundy to get past some couldn't but thought they could it was epic watching them toot their horns, flash their lights and wave out to me - I was famous.
Note that in all of these type of incidents, the trailer starts swaying when the axle gets about even with the front of the truck. It's not because they're going to fast, or overloaded, or poor weight distribution. It's because the back part of the trailer starts getting hit by the bow wave of air coming off the front of the semi. It pushes the back of the trailer sideways, which starts an oscillation, which grows worse as the driver attempts to correct it.
Exactly right! If you ride a motorcycle, you feel that wash as you overtake and you go from still air alongside the semi to side-wind and tend to be pushed outwards from the truck (left or right, depending on where you're driving).
It's unnerving, but once you expect it you do'n't (over)correct. Just hold the line and the trailer will right itself as wind pressure evens up again. Correcting just introduces another force that will not be countered by the wind, and fishtailing is inevitable.
It takes nous, but this driver should have stopped steering for at least a couple of seconds to allow the "system" to settle back to equilibrium.
This looks like a nice spot , dear. Shall I put the kettle on?
well i can guarantee his load was not packed the same way he had it at the beginning of the trip. Best thing is he is fine.
I'm glad he wasn't hurt.
So much fun what a cool ride
Good thing he picked a blind curve so he didn't have to worry about oncoming traffic seeing him and like laughing or something.
WTF are you on about. It's a highway - no oncoming traffic in those lanes.
Stabilizer ?
That’s a nice camp spot
Most exciting way of reverse parking I've ever seen.
There are several good brands of Electronic Stability Control (ESC) available in Australia which could have prevented this (ALCO being probably the best) but it seems that many folk are not taught how to load their vans or to simply remember that they have one hanging there. By the way, I have a van and an ALCO ESC and I load the van correctly
I agree, the root-cause of the problem is a poorly loaded van. Too much weight in the back. There is an excellent video on the internet from some UK university of a small 'model' running on a continuous moving belt (representing the road). They are able to change the weight distribution of the model to show how it responds to being knocked off course. Weight forward of the model axle no real problem, it self corrects. The more the weight behind the axle, the model sways progressively out of control.
I hope that teaches that driver a lesson.
Lol, he's probably just upset at the Caravan for ragging the car.
Is this uphill or downhill . Speed on the downhill is trouble, and also applying brakes is more trouble , windgusts are further trouble , the wind effects from trucks are also heeby jeeby stuff. I learned to go no faster than 80 kph .
This is what happens when people have no idea how to pack things in a caravan. Place anything you have to put in there at the front of the caravan (nearest to the car) and the weight distribution will often prevent this. Put everything on the bed at the back (which a lot of people do) and the result is usually what we see here.
like a glove!
Some GREY NOMADS seem to think that if the speed limit is 110kph they can do that . Towing a 2 to 3 ton caravan anyone should only do NO more than 100kph . and that is probably too fast . Good on ya PAUL for stopping .
I asked this question on another video where the same thing happened.
Can any physicist tell me if the air swirling around a rig can cause enough turbulence to cause the car and trailer to lose control? It seems that in both videos, the vehicles only start to sway just after (or result of) passing a big rig. I'm wondering if that is a factor. Any opinions?
Perhaps it is best to not pass a big rig if you're driving a car with a trailer.
Google "Bernoulli Effect". The venturi created between the truck side and the passing caravan creates the instability (sway) in the caravan. See John Cadogan's vids for the explanation. Only if the towing vehicle had enough power to pull the van straight, or the driver could find the electric brake switch (if the van was fitted with electric brakes) and activate then in the 3 seconds before he went out of control could the situation have been saved. Otherwise destination F*****d.
You never see brake lights, amazing.
Yeah, good driving, that. Hitting the brakes guarantee the 'van overtaking you. Best choice is try to gently accelerate and pull it back in line. Damp road really stuffed him here.
@@frednurk8590 🤣🤣
Pull the brake control for the trailer lightly . don't over correct or touch foot brake .
You should have more weight up front on the van, maybe he got it wrong here, but I think what set it off was the bubble of higher pressure air being pushed through by the semi. As the van passed the front of the truck, it was pushed sideways by the air spilling from the blunt face of it. From then on the driver started to do everything wrong.
Maybe he just found his spot to camp, and decided to swing it in quick before another camper takes it. Apparently 5 minutes after this video, he had the annex out, cooked his bbq and was on his deck chair slamming down a cold one
Is this a re-post? I believe I drove past this, in 2015.
That's it, back to Winnipeg!
Not camping tonight.
sam mich well, they are. Just not where they wanted to.
I wonder what the car to camper ratio was ? Camper 2 times the weight of the car and most likely no brake controller for the camper .
For all Carravaners, please make sure you have installed brakes actionated by the coupling, and some sort of swinging reducer (for all swingers out there, i am not against you) like winterhoff. than it is Very easy to pull out of this by simply taking the foot off the gas. this will push the caravan against the car and douing so will brake the caravan wheels and stabilise it. in adision thw winterhoff will further help by aplying pressure on the ball.
And for God's sake. Adapt ypur speed to driving condition and your driving skills, and lear to load the damn thing corectly (put your HEAVY weight inthe Car trunk, and all other junk in front of the caravan). Remember to NOT go faster than yor Guradian Angel can Fly!
Drive safe